Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Rams-Lions, Cowboys beat Browns, Dak gets paid, Tyreek gets detained

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the Week 1 NFL action, including Goff and the Detroit Lions beating Matt Stafford and the Detroit Lions, Tyreek Hill being detained prior to th...e Miami Dolphins win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, Dak Prescott reaching a record contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys, and the New England Patriots upsetting Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals.03:10 - SHOW STARTS10:18 - Lions in OT defeat the Rams19:05 - Dolphins beat Jags/Tyreek Hill36:48 - Dak got paid/Cowboys blow out Browns51:30 - Steelers beat Falcons01:01:30 - Pats beat Bengals(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:59 Nightcap. I am your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He is your favorite number 85, the route runner extraordinaire. The bingo ring of fame honoree. The legendary, the pro bowler. All pro. Liberty City's own Cincinnati bingo. Great.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Chad Ochocinco Johnson, do us a favor. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. And go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Every subscriber counts. And thank you, guys. We want to sincerely thank you from the bottom of our hearts for helping us ascend to the heights that we've ascended to. That's all because of you. Thank you again so much. Make sure you check out Shade by La Portilla.
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Starting point is 00:04:16 and Nightcap with no tour dates on the back, that sells for $38. You can use the VIP code for an additional 10% off. Again, the link is pinned at the top of the chat. Okay, guys, before we get started, Ocho, there are some things that I want to address. Last night, we had a situation. Everything is like in my computer. It's a little different for me here in the studio, my studio compared to you at home. Everything is linked. TV, I mean, the camera, the iPad, the computer, everything is linked.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And what had happened was, is that as I'm talking, the somehow it clicked over to the video. So that's what I was hearing playing back in my ear. So it wasn't anything. It wasn't like a malfunction. Somehow the audio had clicked on on the video that was playing. So I could hear that back in my ear so that was nothing that people back back at uh at uh in the studio um was doing that was no fault of their own that was just something that just all of a sudden happened and it just took us a minute to figure out we troubleshoot after we got off the show and we got it figured out that won't happen again i can assure you that other technical difficulties might arise but that won't happen again. I can assure you of that. Other technical difficulties might arise, but that won't happen.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And then, guys, look, there's been a lot said, well, Unc, you trying to do to Ocho what Skip did to you, blah, blah, blah. No, what I am going to do is that I'm going to push, I'm going to pull, I'm going to drag Ocho to a level that he didn't think he could get to see I heard I saw some of the comments oh oh you too serious it's just a little internet show it's a YouTube show for you that's all you see it as but that's not the vision that I shared with Ocho when we
Starting point is 00:05:58 sat down that's not the vision that Ocho say oh we can we can do that? Yes. I say, you see what the other guys are getting, but I can't go when I sit down with these studios and they says, okay, Shannon, what can you do? What do you want to do? How do you going to, how do you going to package this? What are you looking for? Because when you go to a studio, they want a time slot. They want like, okay, where are you? What time slot you want to be in? And can we account on you being in that slot? Yes. Yes, absolutely. And so I want Ocho to take it serious.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I've conveyed this with Ocho. Ocho, I'm not telling breaking earth, you know, interrupting your normally scheduled programming because I just want Ocho to understand. This is Ocho's show. This is my show. And I want him to take it as serious instead of
Starting point is 00:06:45 like when he goes on first take be great on first take inside the NFL be great on those but I want Ocho to understand we gonna only go as far as he and I can take this thing and the heights that I dream and I think what he's conveyed to me is that we're going to have to do this together but there has to be a level of professionalism there has to be a courtesy of being on time I respect his time and I want him to respect because there's a lot of people we started out it was just Ocho, myself, one person in the studio and Ash we got 11 people now we got editors we got graphics we got extra producers we got extra producers. We got associate producers. And so
Starting point is 00:07:27 I know y'all took it and tried to run. This is a conversation. Ocho and I have had conversation off cameras. Ocho has conveyed to me what he wants to accomplish with Nightcap. All the while expanding his brand and doing first take. I wholeheartedly
Starting point is 00:07:43 support that. And you know, when it came to me, Ocho is great. Inside the NFL, he doing that, he doing an unbelievable job. But I just know Ocho can, and I think, for me, when I look at Ocho, I see a guy that wants to do it, but has never been in a situation where it had to be like, okay, Ocho, you can just do your thing. Ocho, you're so great. I'm going to make I'm going to force Ocho to be great.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He ain't got no choice. He ain't going to have no choice but to be great. And when we rise with Nightcap, when y'all see, man, man, they did it. Man, Ocho said it. Ocho said they were going to do it. That's what I expect from Ocho. And I just like, he was already going to be cutting it close for time
Starting point is 00:08:29 because of the flight got delayed, mechanical issues. And so, in that situation, you know what? I got a show tonight. This is not a Saturday. This is not Friday. I don't have anything to do. I can take that route that I normally take, call somebody, have them pick me up. But you
Starting point is 00:08:45 know what? I'm already cutting it close. Let me get a more, a little more suitable situation to get to my workplace. So I know you guys tried to blow it up, try to make it something. I'm trying to big time Ocho. No, I just want Ocho to be great. And I think there's a level of professionalism and a kind of courtesy that comes along with being great. Because there are two kinds of pains that you get. You get the pain of discipline or you get the pain of regret. And if things don't work out, I can live with that, but it will,
Starting point is 00:09:11 I will not be man if I had only worked harder. So that's where I'm at. Oh, Joe, I want you to say your piece. Man, I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Well, we, we, we, we good. You know, you know that I don't, I don't, I don't pay them people no mind. You know, I'm, I'm good. We good. You know that. I don't pay them people no mind.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You know, I'm going to always be me. I'm going to always be me. I'm going to always be successful. I always have been. You know, you have your way of doing things. I have my way of doing things. You know? That's it.
Starting point is 00:09:43 We're going to be successful no matter what. I always remain my authentic self. You know, I've been a little bit, but I ain't going to bend too much. Well, I have to change who I am. So that's what Ochoa and I are. Nightcap moves on. Guess what? It was football Sunday.
Starting point is 00:10:08 The first week is in the books now. And the game that you just watched, the Rams in overtime, excuse me, the Lions in overtime defeat the Rams 26-20. Montgomery punches it in from the one-yard line, and the Rams walk it off. The Rams ran for 60 of the 70 yards on the Rams walk it off. The Rams ran for 60 of the 70 yards on the TD drive in overtime.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Huh? I keep saying the Rams. The Lions, they ran for 60 of the 70 yard TD drive in overtime. Is that the most Dan Campbell thing that you can think of? When he took the job, what did he say? We're going to out physical people.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Hey, you might beat us, but you won't out workers. You won't out physical. You, a, that, that in your,
Starting point is 00:10:54 when a team think about it, Ocho, we heard me say this. Y'all guys have heard me say this a lot. When you run the football, you're moving a man against his will. A man got his hand on a three point stand. He says, I ain't going
Starting point is 00:11:07 nowhere. And the Lions said Azul and Decker and all those guys said, hell you not. You're finna get up out this plot of land. And they moved him up out of Zeitler. Man, that was an unbelievable drive to string together in overtime
Starting point is 00:11:23 and win that game right down the field listen the game at the beginning honestly it was a snooze fest it was a snooze fest until after halftime did we not see football being played
Starting point is 00:11:36 drives being strung along from both offenses it was 3-3 at the half if I'm not mistaken right 7-3, 10-3 it was 3-3 at the half if i'm not mistaken right 7-3 10-3 it was something like that i mean i was falling asleep i'm falling asleep so i'm thinking i'm thinking stafford cooper cup hook in the cool the ball they're gonna be throwing the ball all over the place
Starting point is 00:11:59 no crossing routes i ain't really getting none of that in the first half until the second half. Everything started to open up. And then the game became interesting. Jamos, goddamn Jamison Wilson, Jamison Williams. Man, Jamison Williamson. Jamison Williams. I just say Jamo. I'm going to just say Jamo.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Jamo. Okay, go ahead. Man, he scared me, man. I don't like when I see players go down like that. I hate when I see players go down like that. I hate when I see players go down like that. Goddamn Pukunukua, he goes in, he hurt. So funny. I'm not saying it's a coincidence,
Starting point is 00:12:33 but all of a sudden, you have a phenomenal rookie season. This year, you change your diet. You change your nutrition. You do all this stuff that you didn't do, that worked last year, trying to change what you're doing. I'm hoping everything is okay with him. Other than that, it was a great game. Dan Campbell and the Lions setting the tone, the culture, everything over there has changed for the better.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And I'm happy. I'm happy. Hell, I'm happy for Jerry Goff too because they done shipped him off like he was done and he's still resurrecting and changing the ways that program
Starting point is 00:13:15 organization you know what Ocho and I'm not going to get too far of track here I don't believe they thought he was done but I do believe they didn't think he can get him over the hump. And by choice, you look at it, they won the trade because they won the Super Bowl. So anytime
Starting point is 00:13:31 you make a trade, Ocho, and you win the Super Bowl, how do you lose that trade? And so I think that's what they're looking at, and that's what everybody has to evaluate. Can this guy get us to the next level? He took him to a Super Bowl and maybe they say, well, hey, he can get us there, but can we get over the hump?
Starting point is 00:13:50 And if you look at that drive that Matthew Stafford put together to take the lead against Cincinnati in the Super Bowl, that's why they got him. That's why they made the trade. Because think about it. How many times do you see him do this tonight, Ocho? He looking over here and throw the ball clear across there. Yeah, yeah. So he has that ability.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But when you look at the Lions, you look at their random football, 31 attempts, 163 yards, two touchdowns. Jerry Goff was 18 of 28, 217, one touchdown, had an interception. Jamison Williams, five for 121. The two running backs, Montgomerygomery 17 for 91 gives 11 for 40 but that's the way they want to play they want to play a physical style of football you know detroit hard working blue collar grit that's what dan campbell has brought to this team the lions have a lot have a lot the fans have a lot to be excited about because it seemingly last year they
Starting point is 00:14:43 went to the nfc championship game or what a couple of minutes probably about two minutes away from actually winning that game mojo and going to the super bowl and dan campbell's like look it's not like we get to pick right back up and go to the nfc championship game right we've got to go back down to the mountain and climb back up the climb again yeah and they welcome that i love what i love what i saw from the Rams. It could have got away from them because when the Lions took the lead, what happened, Ocho? The Lions come out three and out, boom.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And I was like, oh, man. The Rams can really put this game away now. Yeah. Give the defense credit. AG, Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator, they made a great job. They did a great job and stopped it uh stopped up and giving the ball gave him the ball back and the lions went down the field got a a field goal tied it up sending an overtime and then they get the ball and they go
Starting point is 00:15:37 down the field running the football down down their throat which is the most disrespectful which is the most disrespectful thing which is the most disrespectful thing you can do in NFL is, like you say, move a man against his will continuously down the field. Coaches hate that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Coaches hate that. Because ain't nothing fancy. It ain't no gadgets. It ain't no reverse. It ain't none of that, Ocho. It's handoff. It's toss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's all it is. Mano againstoff. It's toss. That's all it is. Mano against mano. That's it. Man against man. We feel our men are better than your men, and I'm here to prove it today. It's the most discouraging, heartbreaking thing that you can do to a team
Starting point is 00:16:21 is just line up and just run the ball down the field. Man, that's on us. They tricked us on that when they ran a flea flicker. They ran a wide receiver pass. Hand off left. Hand off right. Toss left. Toss right. That's all they did. Congratulations
Starting point is 00:16:39 to the Lions. Get off to a great start. 26-20 overtime win over the Rams. Quarterbacks that flip sides. Matthew Stafford used to be the quarterback with the number one pick of the Lions. Jerry Goff was the number one overall pick of the Rams. They swapped and first blood was drawn by the Rams because they won a Super Bowl with Stafford now Jared Goff is going to try to replicate that
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Starting point is 00:19:33 Ocho, the Dolphins beat the Jags, but the big news actually happened before the game. Yes, sir. And this is what happened. Tyreek Hill was detained by police Sunday, a block away from Hard Rock Stadium for a driving violation. He was reportedly stopped for speeding and then gotten to a verbal altercation with the police and was subsequently placed in handcuffs. Dolphin teammate Calais Campbell, John Smith, stopped to offer support for Hill, leading Campbell detainment for disobeying a direct order. Miami-Dade Police Department released a statement requesting an immediate review of the incident.
Starting point is 00:20:09 One of the officers involved in the Hill detainment was placed on administrative duty during the investigation. No, not administrative leave, administrative duty, which means he's going to be at the desk. He's not going to be in the field. Let's take a listen to what Javon Holland and Tyreek had to say after the game about the incident. And then I seen the clip.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Cop, like, kicked him or something like that. That was crazy. So that's got to get handled. You know what I'm saying? Excessive force on a black man, that's not uncommon. It's a very common thing in America, so I think that needs to be addressed at a country-wide level. So, yeah, I don't think that shit is cool at all.
Starting point is 00:20:45 But, you know, it's not unnatural or not uncommon for cops to do that type of shit, especially to black men. So that needs to be addressed, for sure. I've been trying to figure that out, too. I've been trying to figure that out, too, man. Right now, I'm still trying to put it all together. So I'm not going to give you a version
Starting point is 00:21:03 that I still don't know what happened. You know what I'm saying? But I do want to say, I do want to be able to use this platform to say, like, what if I wasn't Tyreek Hill, bro? So I got a lot of respect for cops, man. But obviously, you know, everybody has bad apples in every to, you know, use this platform, you know, to figure out a way to, like, flip this and, you know, make it a positive on both ends, on my end and then also Miami-Dade, you know, so that way we can team together and, you know, do something positive for the community.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Ocho, we're going to discuss the game. Yeah. But, Ocho also this situation you have i've driven the home games i did it for 14 years you did it for 11 12 years so you know it's like layout give a forgive the fans an idea you go into the stadium yeah you got to be at the stadium i mean normally they ask you to be at the stadium two hours before the game right so okay now ojo you leave the hotel night before the game i don't know if you stayed there the full time or you go back home and change but you're on your way to the stadium take the fans through probably what transpired with Tyreek I mean
Starting point is 00:22:14 well obviously he was headed to the stadium I mean right there's a rest of if I'm looking at the background that's that's right outside the stadium outside of outside because you know because you can see the stadium in the background so obviously he was right there I'm not sure what actually happened I'm not sure what time it was I'm not sure if it was running late so obviously if you're stopping
Starting point is 00:22:35 for a driving violation the only type of driving violation you could have two hours before a game would have to be speeding of some sort maybe not using a signal I'm assuming something minor. Well, speeding is not minor, obviously. So I'm assuming he was pulled over because all I have to go off of is based on what we all saw.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, that's it. I think it's unfortunate. I think it's an easy fix. I think it was a very easy fix to where it didn't even have to get to this point, to where it got to today. I'm not sure if cooler heads had prevailed in that time or in that manner or him being detained wouldn't have happened. In that situation, I think you and I have talked about it before. When you're stopped by the police and doing all you can
Starting point is 00:23:24 to be able to resolve the issue without it going any further. I'm not sure if Tyrese said anything. Maybe the officer was having a bad day, was having a bad day. But there has to be some level of respect on both ends where this doesn't happen. The fact that I don't have the evidence on what really happened and what transpired for it to get to that point, it's hard for me to dig deeper and say some of the things I want to say
Starting point is 00:23:51 outside of the fact it shouldn't get to that point, though. There should be a level of respect on both ends, obviously, especially Miami Police Department. If you work in a game, if you work in a game,
Starting point is 00:24:02 you're in detail at the game and you know it's a player, obviously, maybe extending him a little grace if he is running late, letting him know, hey, Reek, if anything, just slow down a little bit, baby, because you got people, you got foot traffic. Obviously, there's a game going on. People trying to get to the game. Slow down a little bit. If you're going to be late, if anything, just take the fine or whatnot, whatever it might have been. I don't know what it was but again i mean as officers knowing that there's a game getting ready to be played and knowing that it's
Starting point is 00:24:29 it's a player not saying he should be getting getting grace obviously the rules and laws that you have to abide by but it just it just there's a certain level of respect that the officers normally have for a player or in a situation and understanding what's going on but in in this case you know it wasn't it wasn't yeah i think the thing is uh ladies and gentlemen like when we go to the game um we had to be we were required to be to the game at least two hours before the game yeah so our game will start at two o'clock because we're in mountain time so we start had to be there at least by 12 i normally got to the i normally got to the stadium about four and a half hours before the game. So I normally got to the game of the stadium about four and a half hours
Starting point is 00:25:10 before the game. So the traffic wasn't as heavy, but a lot of times they block it off because they don't want traffic. They want to be able to control the traffic coming in one way. They don't want the normal flow of traffic being able to come in all directions. So they, a lot of times they'll have it blocked off. I was always conscious of that. And so, you know, anytime I pulled up to an area and I saw a police officer, I would all I would like roll my window down to let them know this is Shannon. Because my window always had, you know, I always had 10.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But I wanted them to know that, hey, I'm Shannon. You know, hey, I'm going to the stadium. And a lot of it, most of them recognize who I was. Hey, hey, Mr. Sharp, how you doing? Have a great game, so forth and so on. Now, obviously, the later you get to that cutoff time that teams have established, the more foot traffic is going to be coming. And so, obviously, they don't want you speeding through there,
Starting point is 00:26:01 not even 35 miles an hour. They probably want you around 5 to 10 miles an hour they probably want you around five to ten miles an hour because there's some traffic like i said i haven't been to in miami state of ocho and since 98 so i couldn't no i actually we played them in a divisional round but that's been so long that's been so long ago ocho so that's been over two decades so i really couldn't tell you and you know normally when we come in on the bus we got police escort yeah so it's a lot different when you got police escort right as opposed to being you know you're driving yourself and so you and you know normally when we come in on the bus we got police escort yeah so it's a lot different when you got police escort right as opposed to being you know you're driving yourself and so you're absolutely right um i think the thing is for that minor of a traffic so okay
Starting point is 00:26:34 he's speeding and you got to lay him face down yeah hold on hold on right in my ticket right right in my ticket there's no reason to detain him. There's no reason for him to be facedown. But what you do have to think of, if it's short to that, if they've resulted to the point of having to have him facedown like that, I think there might have been some exchange back and forth. There might have been some exchange back and forth.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That's the only time it gets to that point when an individual is being somewhat volatile towards the law. Then they take things in their own hands because as you get a little loud what's the first thing they do they try they try to detain you they try to well and he escalates in that situation ocho ocho in that situation he's god he got all the power yeah he got a gun yeah he got a taser yes sir he got a baton yes sir he got a bulletproof vessel yeah he's in that situation he's gone yeah my thing is anytime the police officer comes to my car
Starting point is 00:27:31 i get pulled over my job is to get him to the car back to his car me on my way he on his way with as little conversation as possible yes sir okay you pulled me over mr sharp you know how fast you were going uh i really don't would you yeah i welcome you telling me over, Mr. Sharp. You know how fast you were going? I really don't. I welcome you telling me. Well, you was traveling such and such. And this must be, I'll say, I'm sorry, officer. I didn't know I was traveling that fast, but I'm going to take your word for it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Because I'm trying to get him, Ochoa, I'm trying to get him to my car, back to his car as quick as possible. Yeah. The longer he stays at my car, the greater the chance that there's something that we can, it can escalate. Right now,
Starting point is 00:28:07 a lot of times they're supposed to be in a situation where they deescalate the situation. Yeah. But that's not always how, and plus, Oh, you think, cause you,
Starting point is 00:28:17 this, you, that you drive in this car. Oh, you think you could, no, I don't think that. So that was,
Starting point is 00:28:23 that's my whole thought process. How soon can I get him to my car, back to his car or on his motorcycle and get him on his way? Right. In a situation like that, Ocho, for Tyreek to be laid down and it looked like I saw a video, it looked like the guy need him in his back. I thought that was. Yeah, yeah. He did kick him, but I thought he need I thought he needed. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Right. And maybe the video, maybe somebody, the video that I saw, maybe that wasn't how it happened. But it looked apparently to me that the guy did mean a little excessive. And I'm not saying that he dropped the Ric Flair LD on him or something like that. You know, it wasn't WWE. But it looked like it was unnecessary. It seemed to me that it was unnecessary
Starting point is 00:29:07 that you lay a man down in the street for a traffic violation. I can see if the guy, he was traffic violation and he was warning for some heinous crime, but I don't think that was the case. But I think what's going to happen, because this was so public, and it
Starting point is 00:29:24 is the Miami Dolphins and Stephen Ross and the NFL now, everybody's getting involved. Oh, you're going to come to a quick resolution here. Oh, yeah, most definitely. And I can assure you that probably won't happen again. I'm not going to say for categorical for certain, but there is a great chance that this won't happen again. Yeah. That guy might have been a little overzealous. I'm not saying that tyreek wasn't speeding but i'm just saying i
Starting point is 00:29:45 don't know if speeding warrants that laying a man down face down in the pavement you put your knee in his back you're handcuffed i mean i mean if you're gonna do if you're gonna if you're gonna do all that you might well go on and take him down yeah yeah yeah most definitely i mean and then that would make it that would make it And then that would make it even worse. That would make it even worse. And obviously, I wish the situation could have been rectified right away. There's a certain level of respect that obviously me being from Miami
Starting point is 00:30:14 that I... Wish you hadn't gotten that. Not even close. Not two hours before a game when the officers understand that okay, whatever the driving violation may have been, listen, quick little talk, listen, you got to slow down. But you know what? Okay, if you are speeding a little bit,
Starting point is 00:30:29 listen, I know you got a game, baby. You can't be driving that fast through here. I got to give you a ticket. I got to give you a ticket, man. I got to do right by the law, but I'm going to let you go about your way. That's it. Simple. It's over. Driver's license, registration, I got it right
Starting point is 00:30:46 just slow down for me next time we got seven more home games here next time you come through here just be driving the right way hopefully we got more than that hopefully we got more home games most definitely I think it's sustained though
Starting point is 00:31:01 it's sustained on the Miami Miami Police Department because it's everywhere it's the stain, though. It's the stain on the Miami Police Department. Because it's everywhere. It's definitely not a good look. It's definitely not a good look, Coach. Overabusing your power just a little bit. Just a little bit. Understanding the situation. Understanding the circumstances.
Starting point is 00:31:18 You know, Tyreek is no threat in this situation. He's not going to do you any bodily harm. I mean, you know that so i think i think obviously it was very excessive and unnecessary so yeah um like like but like you know i think the thing is i mean like tyreek said what if he wasn't who he was uh and the thing is now i think you know the cameras and a lot of times and people like well body cameras on you know he had he they're wearing body cams and people like well shannon you talk
Starting point is 00:31:51 about you don't get on the elevator with women do you understand it was cameras do you know how many times we've seen stuff on cameras and mofos walk up out the courtroom scott ass free yeah and you want me to change that just my luck guess what the camera ain't working that day how many times there's a situation oh the officer forgot to turn his body cam on, Ocho? Thinking they slick. I assume nothing. The cam ain't supposed to come off. It's supposed to always be on.
Starting point is 00:32:14 The moment you pull somebody off, you're supposed to hit that butt. Yeah. But that's neither here nor there. Tyreek's okay. Probably a little, a lot embarrassed. Not a little. A lot embarrassed not a little a lot embarrassed yeah because this played out in front of national in front of you know you play in front of millions but i i don't expect to be handcuffed face down yeah with a knee in my back oh not not in my own
Starting point is 00:32:37 city not in the city i play for come on now no and then tyreek he did what Tyreek Hill does he catches an 80 yarder takes it to the house seven catches for a buck 31 touchdown to 80 yarder and then he did a by 10 a.m. they had his hand behind his back and then 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:33:00 he had a celebration going with his hand behind his back for 211 of the Miami Dolphins, 400 total yards in offense. Tua threw for 338, one touchdown. Jacksonville was the ninth best defense against the run last season. Yeah. And they showed it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Miami only had 25 carries for 81 yards, but A-Chain had 75 rushing. Waddle had five for 109. Tyreek had seven for a buck 30. But this game seemed to be, Ocho, this game was about to be put away. The Jags. The Jags. The JTN. And dude comes and peanut punches.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Punches. They get the ball, and two plays later, Tyreek. So what was about to be a 24-7 ball game, Ocho, now all of a sudden, you get the ball at the 20, and two plays later,
Starting point is 00:33:52 Tyreek's in the end zone. Yeah. And so now, what was supposed to be 24, 24-7, is 17-14. Yeah. Now,
Starting point is 00:34:03 now, you're getting out of crowds back in the game. Now the defense is starting to feel good about themselves. But give Miami credit. Jacksonville had an opportunity to really put some distance between them. They were unable to do it. And the blink of an eye, the momentum flipped just like that. 14-point swing.
Starting point is 00:34:22 That's why it's four quarters. Because quarter one, quarter two was all Jacksonville. Especially on defense. Them boys were playing some goddamn ball on defense, man. Them boys were playing some ball on defense. And I told everybody, especially in the chat,
Starting point is 00:34:38 I told y'all about Brian Thomas Jr. I told you. Young boy is nice. I know Malik Nabors gets all the hype, obviously, because he's in New York. about Brian Thomas Jr. I told you, young boy is nice. I know Malik Navers gets all the hype, obviously, because he's in New York. Brian Thomas Jr., real deal. The Jags going to be okay, though.
Starting point is 00:34:56 The Jags going to be all right, though. They're going to be all right. I mean, I like what I saw from the Jags. You just got, when you get a team in that situation, you got to put them away. You got to put them away. You got to create some type of distance. You got to create some type of distance. You got to create some type of distance,
Starting point is 00:35:09 especially when they have those type of players that at any point, no matter where you are on the field, when it comes to Waddle, A-Chain, and that goddamn Cheetah, they can hit the head off the goalpost from anywhere. When you get an opportunity to separate yourself, and that's the difference between the type of quarterbacks that are considered Tier 1 that have those type of quarterbacks that are considered tier one,
Starting point is 00:35:26 that have those type of weapons. Yeah. They put you away. They don't even give you no chance. Because you know at any given time they can strike from anywhere. Bingo. They're one play away. A lot of teams don't have that kind of potential.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They have three guys. No, they got four guys. They got Cheetah. They got Waddle. They got H&M. They got kind of potential. They have three guys. No, they got four guys. They got Cheetah. They got Waddle. They got H&M. They got most of them. Most of them. I'm tripping.
Starting point is 00:35:49 They got four guys that on any given play, and you strike the band up. Now you got to smell the deodorant. Referee raising his arms. So they got four guys. There are very few teams that have that kind of big play potential right and i always and chat you've heard me say this when you have the momentum how much separation can you put between you and the team that doesn't have the momentum right because
Starting point is 00:36:16 eventually they're gonna get it and if you're not if you haven't put enough separation between you guess what they're gonna track you down every time we saw that with san francisco we saw that with we saw that with san going to track you down. We saw that with San Francisco. We saw that with San Francisco in the Super Bowl. We saw that with the Eagles in the Super Bowl the previous year. When you have the momentum, you better get you a lot of separation because when they get it, where you might have had, baby,
Starting point is 00:36:40 when you scored two touchdowns and kicked the field goal, they might go three touchdowns and all of a sudden, boom, ball game. So, the Dolphins win, but that really wasn't the story. The Tyreek Hill being detained briefly, face down
Starting point is 00:36:56 handcuffed for what they said was a speeding violation or moving violation. Driving, I'm sure it has to be speeding. They listed it as speeding, Ocho. Yeah. Simple ticket. They listed it as speeding. Simple ticket, rectify the situation, driver's license, insurance,
Starting point is 00:37:12 boom, write the ticket, you go and buy your business, there's no problem. Ocho, the Cowboys handled the Browns on the road, but again, the story happened before the game. In the wee hours of the morning, that guy paid. And it wasn't even Friday night, like Johnny Kemp said.
Starting point is 00:37:30 That guy paid. I guess it was Saturday night, early Sunday morning. Four years, $240 million. $231 million guaranteed. $60 million per year. He's the first $60 million player in NFL history. The highest paid player in nfl history the highest paid qb based on annual year basis that 60 million joe burrow 55 jordan love 55 trevor lawrence 55 yeah two is at 53.1 jerry golf is at 53 justin herff is at 53. Justin Herbert is at 52.5. Lamar Jackson is at 52.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Jalen Hurts at 51. But Dak Prescott became the first $60 million man. I don't know if you remember the old TV show, The $6 Million Man. But now the NFL has a $60 million man. And he goes by the name of Dakota Rain Prescott, a.k.a. Dak for short. Ocho, that was the story before the game. But boy, on the field, the Cowboys handled business
Starting point is 00:38:29 today. They look good. Hey, listen, they look very good. I'm not sure what's wrong with the Browns offense. Now, I'm not sure. Was it Mike Zimmer in the defense and the fact that they knew all the route concepts, all the route combinations with Jerry Judy and Amari Cooper,
Starting point is 00:38:48 who are phenomenal route runners, especially receivers that are great at creating separation. There was really no separation today. There was no separation today. I'm not sure what it was. I'm not sure what was going on, but I think I'm the offensive coordinator. But if I see my quarterback struggling and I'm,
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm speaking from as a fan of the football, as a fan of football, I'm watching Deshaun Watson struggle from the quarterback position. So what do I want to do? Everything is always spread out. Everything is always spread out. Jerry Judy's out wide. Elijah Moore's in the slot. Amari Cooper's out wide. Condense the goddamn out wide Condense the goddamn formations Condense the goddamn formations Put people in motion Allow them to What do you call it when you
Starting point is 00:39:33 You put Condense the formations Allow your quarterback to get in rhythm with quick throws Oh you want him to max protect some too Stop doing all that scat protection And get your quarterback in rhythm. They just continued to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over. And Deshaun Watson was never able to find any kind of rhythm, not getting in sync with his receivers.
Starting point is 00:39:55 They weren't able to string long, consistent drives together. Running the ball, they were okay. I'm not sure how many yards Ford had running the ball. Ford was 12 for 44. They had 19 rushes, 93 yards. That's not enough. That's not enough. But they got the passing game.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't like the fact that Joe Flacco was able to come in last year and the offense looked completely different. It looked completely different. I don't know if they were calling a different play for Joe Flacco or what the hell was going on, but Deshaun Watson should not look the way he looked today. It shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It just shouldn't look like that. Deshaun hadn't had played a lot of football in three years. Let's start with that. But Ocho, that offense, you're not going to win a game. You're not going to win, let me offense, you're not going to win a game. You're not going to win. Let me say you're not going to win a game.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You're not going to win many games when you start first and 15, you're second and 15, you're third and 15. How many times did they get illegal formation on the right tackle? How many times did they get a hold on the right tackle? The dude, it should be a crime to be that big and that sorry. Hold on. That is that that's the backup. That's a backup,
Starting point is 00:41:08 right? That's the backup. Okay. The backup. Okay. But you got to do a better job than that. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah. Cause guess what? He go back his ass up to that pay window on, on Monday or Tuesday. Oh, the collect that check. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah. You know exactly what I was talking about. Yeah. Oh, Joe, you can't have that. And I'm not saying Sean didn't look good. The Sean hasn't looked good exactly what I was talking about. Yeah. Ocho, you can't have that. And I'm not saying Deshaun didn't look good. Deshaun hasn't looked good.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And I don't know Ocho. And as we go along, and like I said, I'd like to see him get his big guys back and to see what he is. But as time goes along, I'm starting to become less and less sure that we'll ever see the Deshaun Watson we once saw. And that coordinator, you got to understand. You got to know. You got to know your team's strengths and weaknesses. If you know your right tackle, if you know there's a weakness there, put somebody over there and chip Micah, crazy ass, coming
Starting point is 00:42:05 off the edge all crazy, doing what he's doing. Shorten down the offensive plays. Short intermediate routes. Everything is drop back five yards, play action, seven step drops. Why are you doing that when you know
Starting point is 00:42:21 you have a weakness on the offensive line? Slant routes. Quick out routes. Get your team in rhythm. Get your quarterback some confidence. Allow him to complete a string of passes. To get him in rhythm. To get a little confidence.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It looked like his confidence shot. Look at his mannerism getting up after getting sacked. Look at his mannerism getting up after getting sacked. Look at his mannerism getting up after getting hit. Deep balls. Amari, you got to help your quarterback out, too, on the deep ball he dropped. Even though you weren't winning the game, just to get the team around going a little bit, just to give your quarterback some confidence, you can't drop that deep ball, big bro. You can't.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You're right i think that elcho if you look at the game early you see the jump uh uh carson 21 got on those balls you know that ball gotta come out quick oh yeah he like them had already told him they can't block us we jumping everything hurt my sit sit right on it sit right on it he jumping thing i'm like bro i see y'all got to double move him to get him up out there. Yeah. But they know you can't double move because y'all got two rookies. Y'all got two backups playing tackle.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Y'all been, when you double boo, when he, when, when Deshaun does this, Mike's going to hit him in the back. He going to do that. Every time. Or D-Law going to hit him in his mug. So the Cowboys, the Cowboys play defensively they look good they were on it today the cowboys offense really didn't have to do a whole lot if you look at jack numbers that was 19 of 32 179 they had 25 rush attempts for 102 yards so the average four yards of carry
Starting point is 00:43:58 but that wasn't it wasn't like that through for 250 300 300 yards. He didn't need to. Just don't put the ball in harm's way. Deshaun Watson, 24 of 45, 169. One touchdown, two ITs. He was sacked six times. He had a QBR less than 10. Do we give? Do we give? It's week one.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I understand. Nobody plays in the preseason that are starters. Well, maybe they should. Listen, I told you. We done had that conversation. My black ass wants to be in the preseason so when I get to week one,
Starting point is 00:44:41 it's not unfamiliar territory. Because you can practice all day long. When you get into a game time situation, it's completely different. Yeah. It's completely different. Practice is not game. Practice is not game. And you can't convince your body that it is.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah. It's just different. I mean, you go out there and practice. Hey, I'm trying to get everybody that work on you. I don't want to give anybody no confidence
Starting point is 00:45:09 that they cover me today. I want nobody talking ish in the locker room. I lock shop up today or they jumping up, take it out. Yeah. Hey,
Starting point is 00:45:15 if things happen, guys go get paid. I mean, I don't ran, think about how many times I don't ran a seven route or come back a day over a basic cross
Starting point is 00:45:23 or wall route. So they know what's coming. But, you know, I'm trying to get craftier. But, a comeback, a dig, an over, a basic cross, a wall route. So they know what's coming. But, you know, I'm trying to get craftier. But, no. So this is what we do it. They don't play in the preseason. And then they get out, we jump out the gate. And we lose it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 No. If you want to get out the gate faster, play some in the preseason. Do we extend any type of grace to Deshaun because of the tackles being missing on the left and the right side? And it doesn't make it any better that you're playing against goddamn Micah Parsons and Brother Gregory? That doesn't make it any easier. You're playing against them defense.
Starting point is 00:46:00 But, Ocho, you said it last year when he had the guys. Joe Flacco, he didn't look like Joe Flacco did and he had the starting tackles in there yeah that's what you just said I don't understand it because he was playing he hurt his shoulder
Starting point is 00:46:17 I mean the offense wasn't looking like it should look but then all of a sudden Flacco comes in and all of a sudden I'm like man what the hell is going on? Almost to the point where it got me thinking, man, y'all sabotaging my dog with the play calling. I'm just saying that's what it looked like. I'm not saying that's what they were doing, but how did Joe Flacco come in, boom, and what, Flacco went on a four or five-week run? Yeah. Just aerial assault. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:46:49 They need to do a better job of running the football, Ocho. Look, you see you can't block him, but you got to slow him down. You got to give him something else to think about. Yeah. Dropping back and doing, like you said, scat protection when you got five men out and you know your two tackles can't hold up, you're inviting trouble yeah you got to run the football maybe you button that thing down and says okay we're
Starting point is 00:47:10 gonna try to run the football and then hey and maybe we just go two-man route off of that app off a run action but this what this game plan today now i get it you know you don't have chubb uh chubb is the focal point of that offense. Everything is built around Chubb being able to run the football, and now we play action offense. Well, it's hard to play action when you – Not able to run the ball. You ain't doing a whole lot. Where you going?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Who you fooling? Why am I coming down? Y'all not finna get back to me anyway so I'm just gonna stay right here they gonna clean all that up the front set up gonna take care of all that the Browns didn't look look Ocho I agree it's week one but the Browns
Starting point is 00:47:55 really haven't looked good with Deshaun Watson in there the best they look is when they came back and beat last year they beat the Ravens that was the best Deshaun that was a good game that was the best Deshaun that was a good game that was the best he's looked but as the games
Starting point is 00:48:10 go by Ocho we can't keep using well you know he only played 13 games in this many years at some point guess what because in those three years he was still collecting a check yeah so still collecting a check. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So, let's see what happens when the tackles come back. But they're gonna have to pick this thing up. Guess what? What can Pittsburgh do? You think Dallas got after you? Did you see what Pittsburgh did that late? Boy, that goddamn TJ Watt.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Well, he a hell raiser. Hey, and you got the Ravens in that division. You know they're going to attack you. That's a division game. Ain't no love lost. No. Because the old Ravens used to be the old Browns. Yeah, used to be the Browns.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Mm-hmm. But Cleveland got to figure this thing out. And Joko gets hurt. What happened? but uh i think the cleveland got to figure this thing out and joke now and joke who gets and joke who gets hurt what happened it looked like he looked like he tweaked his ankle oh his ankle okay okay okay yeah he got he got drugged out you know that drop tackle he didn't drop yeah but he drug you know and his ankle got pinned up under ah so uh but the cowboys dak prescott the highest paid player in nfl history the first quarterback to make 60 million dollars annually he threw 456 yards in the first half only had 23 yards in the second half of the touchdown and but the defense was dominant uh eric kendrick who came on that
Starting point is 00:49:39 show had a pick and a and. He had a sack too. And then Kavante Turpin Turpin time, he had a punt return for a touchdown in the third quarter that really broke the ball game open after that. But even before that touchdown, you never got the indication that Cleveland was a serious threat to the Cowboys
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Starting point is 00:52:45 Russell Wilson aggravated a calf injury earlier in the week, gave Justin Fields an opportunity. Justin Fields from the Atlanta area, he completed 17 of 23, 156 yards. He rushed 14 times for 57 yards. But the most important thing for Justin Fields, he didn't turn the ball over. No, Chris Boswell is the kicker, not Bonio, Chris Boswell. And as the game went on it looked like Justin Fields got more and more comfortable yeah um he look I say this again the great thing that Tom Brady could do he understood what type of game it was
Starting point is 00:53:16 going to be Justin Fields look ain't gonna be a whole lot of points score first of all Arthur Smith is not going to turn me loose. He's not going to have me throwing and spraying the ball all over the field. So let me get the ball to George Pickens. Let me hand this ball off to Najee Harris and let them do what they do. And as long as I don't put the ball in harm's way, I like our chance of winning this ball game. And that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:53:44 The Steelers offense was, they couldn't finish drive, but they had a very reliable kicker. He kicked a 51 yarder, a 56 yarder, a 57 yarder to become the first Pittsburgh Steelers kicker to kick three field goals of 50 plus yards
Starting point is 00:53:58 in a game in franchise history. The question I got for you, Ocho. Yeah. If Russell Wilson is healthy next week, does he start or do you stick with Justin Fields? Absolutely not. You know, Russell Wilson is going back to his starting job. Russell Wilson was awarded the starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Therefore, when he's back healthy, he's back in the slot. I think the offense in itself in general, especially with the playbook and the play calling with Arthur Smith, it opens up the playbook exponentially as opposed to it, as opposed to if Justin Fields was at the helm. Okay. Two different, two different type of quarterbacks. Yeah. So I think the best fit for the Steelers would be Russell Wilson for the
Starting point is 00:54:43 foreseeable future. Okay. Meanwhile, the Falcons gave first cousins a $100 million guarantee coming off a torn Achilles to lead the offense featuring top 10 draft pick B. John Robinson, Drake London, and Kyle Pitts. And Atlanta brought back its entire offensive line. But cousins threw two interceptions. The Falcons only managed 45 yards in the second half
Starting point is 00:55:08 and fumbled a bad snap to squash a first-half drive. Will this offense need more time to click? What's going on, Ocho? Yeah, they got damn week one, boy. I'm telling you, it's hurting everybody, huh? I tell you no lie. B. John Robinson, the real deal. Kyle Pitts, real deal. John Robinson, the real deal. Kyle Pitts, real deal.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Drake London, the real deal. Man, I'm telling you, these boys ain't got no type of, no type of, what's the word? What's the word? I don't want to use the word chemistry. I'm just, they need that live action. Now. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah, no, you don't think so? Let me ask you this. Yeah. You notice how we make excuses for week one when nobody ever made excuses for us? Oh, but shit, we played in the preseason, huh? So when we got to week one, we was rolling. We was good.
Starting point is 00:55:54 We was acclimated. We acclimated the game speed. We wasn't going from zero to 100 and then being goddamn surprised at the goddamn game speed because we're not used to the tempo. Listen, I'm not making excuses for them, but it is week one.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Things are going to look sloppy. Things aren't going to look like they should look. For defenses, it's a little bit easier. Defense, all you got to do, the call comes in, you read and you react. You read and you react. That's it.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I think it's a little bit simpler on their side of the ball. I think offenses, despite some teams that might win, some teams are going to look better than the others. Yeah. Some teams are going to look better than the others. For us, being a part of the team, and when I played in Denver, the one thing that I loved about Mike, he never let us use week one as an excuse.
Starting point is 00:56:39 If we played good, he's like, hey, guys, we played well. We won the game. But there are some things that we can do better. But when we lost, it wasn's like, hey, guys, we played well. We won the game. But there are some things that we can do better. But when we lost, it wasn't no, hey, guys, it's just week one. He's like, no, this is unacceptable. Yeah. And I like that. I like being held.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I'm big on accountability. I'm big on accountability because I don't want to plant excuses in guys' hands because you know how the mind is wired. Oh, that's an excuse. You know, hey, blah, blah, blah. This heads. Because you know how the mind is wired. Oh, that's an excuse. You know, blah, blah, blah. This happened. The plane didn't take off on time.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Somebody pulled a fire alarm. We had to get up at 2 o'clock in the morning. No, we don't do excuses here. We win or we lose. But they're going to need to change this. If that's what's causing everything to look like it's looked in week one, well, can they not play a game? Can they not get any action in the preseason? I'm talking about none.
Starting point is 00:57:33 They can't get like 20 plays in two preseason games. They can't get 20 plays. They can't get no play. And them boys ain't do nothing. Some people didn't do nothing. Nathaniel, zero, zilch. Obviously trying to protect the players from injury. I mean, listen, I—
Starting point is 00:57:49 And that's why the guys get hurt, because they don't do nothing. They don't get hit. Yeah, man. They'll learn. They'll learn. There's a real—oh, Joey, I mean, you can't go out there. You done took two months off, and all of a sudden you're going to say, you know what, I'm finna run full speed
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm finna try to run the times that I was running when I was at my peak well you asking for trouble well that's what they ask these guys to do yeah basically they been running
Starting point is 00:58:13 they don't you haven't done anything at game speed even when they give you two minutes and they got the clock out there and it's like
Starting point is 00:58:19 okay we got two minutes we down by three or we got two minutes to go in the clock we down by seven and they give you we got officials and they market it off and all that. That ain't the same. No.
Starting point is 00:58:29 It ain't. Not even close. So, Ocho, the question I got for you, will this offense need more time, the Falcons offense, will it need more time than originally thought? Or Kirk Cousins, what do you think about Cousins? And how soon will we see Michael Penix Jr.? Nah, I don't think. It's
Starting point is 00:58:49 not time to panic, especially for Kirk. I'm not even going to mention week one. I think Kirk is going to be fine. Again, in the regular season, he is a yardage monster. A yardage monster. So those numbers are going to look like they should
Starting point is 00:59:06 because of the quarterback they have at the helm. And they're going to string some wins along. They're going to string some wins along because they have a very special back in B. John Robinson. They have a very special back in B. John Robinson who's going to take some of the pressure off of Kirk so he doesn't have to be throwing it 40, 50 times a game.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And I think he's going to be okay. So I don't think we're going to see Penning Jr. anytime soon. Are they going to be in a situation where they can use it? I mean, would you want to give him some packages early? Would you want to do that? Would you want him to sit back? No, no, no. I'm saying B. John. I'm saying B. John Robinson. Yes, sir. What would you say?
Starting point is 00:59:42 What was the question about? I said, are they going to be in a position? Are they going to be in a situation where they don't have a choice? Because, Ocho, them fans are going to start booing, sir. What would you say? What was the question about? I said, are they going to be in a position? Are they going to be in a situation where they don't have a choice? Because Ocho, them fans are going to start booing, bro. You know the most popular guy, unless you got Mahomes, the most popular guy is the backup quarterback.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. Yeah. You know the first, hey, Ocho, when the offense is stinking, what's the first thing they look to replace? Yeah, the quarterback. Quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And they talk about we need a spark. Mm-hmm. Nah, y'all need like 10 new players. I don't think. We're not going to get there. We're not going to get there. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:20 But, I mean, Cousin did look. He was never the most mobile, mobile, never been completely, complete drop back quarterback. Never. He definitely, he definitely all pocket.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Um, but give the Steelers credit. They go on the road. Hell, it looked like a Steelers Hall game. Did you see man? Uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:41 TJ, what was pumping the crowd up? Yeah. But you noticed when you see it on the road, when you see somebody on the road andJ. Watt was pumping the crowd up. Yeah, but you know the Steelers. When you see somebody on the road and then somebody get it up. Hold on. There are two teams that travel well. I don't care where you go.
Starting point is 01:00:53 But you could be playing the goddamn Israel. Boy, 80% of the fan base is going to be there. The Steelers and the Eagles. They travel well. Yeah. Packers well. Yeah. Packers travel. Unbelievable. I've never seen a thing like Pittsburgh, though.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Because you got to understand, Ocho, think about it. In the 70s, the Steelers were it. Right. So a lot of times, that was the only team that you got an opportunity to see. Now, you like the Cowboys and the Packers go back. But when you start getting kids that grew up watching the Steelers and they could become displaced. So guess what?
Starting point is 01:01:30 Steelers come to town. Yeah, I'm going to see him. Okay. That's the team I grew up rooting for. Right. That's the team I grew up watching. So while, you know, they haven't won anything recently. Everybody remember the Steelers of the seventies.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Mean Joe. Who don't know Mean Joe? And Snackertooth, Jack Lambert. I mean, all those guys. Mel Blunt, my homeboy Mel, Donny Shell, Bradshaw, Swan, Starworth, rest his soul, Franco, Rocky Blyer.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And so, they travel, Ocho. And the thing is that what you worry about is that their fans buying your home tickets. Tickets, yep. And they being close. And it seems like a damn road game. Because there's so many Steelers fans there. And they're so close.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Normally, you know, we put their ass way, way up there. We can't even hear y'all. Mm-hmm. Y'all got y'all little section. But y'all in the section 400. They down there in the bowl. Buying up everything. So, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:02:34 What happened? I know what did happen. What, what? You told me the Bengals. I told you New England was going to open a can on y'all. Now, I told you that. Now, listen, this is what you should have known. Now, when I picked the Bengals to win, that was an emotional pick.
Starting point is 01:02:49 That was a pick because I played there. That was a pick because they drafted me. That was a pick of me picking them to beat the Patriots because they allowed me to fulfill my childhood dream. Now, you know good and well the goddamn Bengals start 0-1 for the past three years straight and i didn't think i i didn't think anything would change this year as well i was just picking them simply because i love my bangles i didn't think it was i didn't think they was really gonna win
Starting point is 01:03:16 because listen we have we have a history of doing the same thing starting out slow out the gate oh and one oh and two but2. But matter of fact, can I say something real quick? Go ahead. We play the Chiefs next week, right? I'm telling you right now, that's everybody in the chat. If you're a bet man, if any of you are gamblers, I'm telling you right now,
Starting point is 01:03:38 Moneyline, Bengals beating the Chiefs next week, week two. In Arrowhead. Can I get something on that? I put that on anything. I guarantee you. I want a hundred. T. Higgins is playing. I want a hundred.
Starting point is 01:03:54 A hundred what? Whatever. Peso. Don't do that. Don't lose your money. Because now you're going to lose your money in front of everybody in the chat. I would lose it. You're going to lose your money. Take my money. Take it. I would lose it. You're going to lose your money. Take my money. Take it. Now any side bets in the chat, put your money
Starting point is 01:04:09 where your mouth is. I guarantee you. But listen, we didn't look good today. Y'all showed it. We didn't look good today. We didn't look good on offense. You did not. We didn't look good on defense. We didn't look good on special teams. You did not. All three phases of the game, we didn't look good on offense. You did not. We didn't look good on defense. We didn't look good on special teams. You did not.
Starting point is 01:04:25 All three phases of the game, we didn't look good. Look bad. But you know what we get to do? We get to regroup. We have a thing called the 24-hour rule in Cincinnati. We watch film. We correct the mistakes. And once 24 hours passes, we're on to the next game.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And the next game for us is the Kansas City Chiefs. Congratulations to Jacoby Brissett. we're on to the next game and the next game for us is the kansas city chiefs congratulations to jacoby percent congratulations to gerard mayo is starting his season off as the head coach of the new england patriots stop trying to steal their shine let's get gerard mayo gerard mayo gets his first win as head coach the bingo started out to steal again for the second straight season opening the the Bengals were held scoreless in the first half. In fact, they trailed by 10 or more for the
Starting point is 01:05:10 third straight season opener and haven't scored a touchdown in the first half of week one since 2021. The chemistry, especially on offense, wasn't there, and the absence of T. Higgins, hamstring noticeable, coming off wrist surgery that ended the season a year ago.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Burrow seemed hesitant to push the ball down the field. 16 of his first 20 pass attempts were within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Cincinnati was unable to stop the rushing attack of the Patriots early in the game, which allowed the Patriots to build a lead and protect it. Yeah. Mondray Stevenson, 25 25 carries, a buck 20, had a touchdown. They ran the ball 39 times
Starting point is 01:05:49 for 170 yards. Jacoby Brissett was 15 of 24 for 121 yards. Did a great job. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode,
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