Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Unc PISSED OFF at Broncos WIN over Raiders + Unc in TEAERS reacting to Cowboys’ Marshawn Kneeland’s Passing + Ocho HEARTBROKEN over Antonio Brown

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson reacts to the Denver Broncos beating the Las Vegas Raiders on Thursday Night Football, Unc bursts into tears after learning that Marshawn Kneeland passes at 24, Antonio Brown was arrested on an attempted murder charges in Miami and much more! 04:00 - Broncos beat Raiders23:00 - RIP Marshawn Kneeland44:30 - Antonio Brown arrested on an attempted murder charge (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Broncos beat the Raiders in a snooze fence by the score of 10. 10 to 7. Denver extends its winning streak to seven games. The Broncos moved to 8 and 2. Their next game is against the Chiefs at home. Bow Knicks was 16 of 28, 150, one touchdowns, two interceptions. Gino Smith was 16 or 26, 143, one interception. It was bad. It was just bad football all around.

Thank you, Denver's defense. I don't understand. I'm looking at the Bronco. I don't listen. There's enough blame to go around. around, Ocho. I don't know what Sean Payton was calling tonight. Right. I don't know. You got the wind at your back and you won't throw it down the field. Yes. I'm going to win into your face. You say, okay, both throw it down the field.

I don't get you block a punt and you go backwards. You get a kick and you go backwards. It was just bad offensive football. And I just remember being in games like this when I was in Denver and we were really good Ocho. And it was almost like we had lost the game. It was almost like a funeral because you have a certain level of experience. that you expect to play to. And Michael, and all you hear me say this all the time. You never accept anything in a win that you wouldn't in a loss. Right.

We won the game, but you cannot be happy with the way we played in winning the game. You play any team that you think you're a playoff team, okay, maybe they go to the playoffs. You're not winning playing that type of offensive football. Yeah. You just beat a bad, you just beat a bad team. The rate is a bad. Yes. They're bad, don't you?

I mean, there's no way around it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. The Raiders are a bad team. Yes. Go ahead. Well, listen, the Raiders are 2 and 8. Offensive, they couldn't get anything going. If I'm not mistaken, they had 12 or 13, 13, 13, um,

bribes, a series. Okay. But they went, where they went three and out, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, Gino, with the offense playing as bad as they were, they can't overcome interceptions. The hell, the goddamn Broncos defense, they are so goddamn good. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it, the 2000 Ravens.

I'm not saying it's the Legion of Boom or they're not, maybe not the no-fly zone of the Broncos season when they went to the Super Bowl, but they are goddamn good. They're very good. And minus, no P-2 is not even playing right now. I think he's going for the next three weeks and they were phenomenal. They were phenomenal. That's why they were in the game. And for the Raiders, you have to understand games like this.

This is why kickers are so important, Unk. Even though it was a snooze fest, it was the opportunity for the game to go in overtime. All the kicker for the Raiders had to do was make the kick. Just make the kick. Games are one and lost on the leg sometimes. You got one job to do, Unk. You have one job to do as a kicker that give your team a chance to win or tie a game or send it in overtime, and he wasn't able to do that.

And listen, you said it right. It was a snooze fest tonight, not much offense, but it was a lot of defense played. And there's really not much to take away from it. But you do get games like this. You do, you do have to win ugly games like this. And this. The Broncos been winning ugly games. They beat the Texans last week.

Basically the games, just because you score a bunch of points in the end, it's been ugly. I mean, you can't keep spotting teams like this. That's the Raiders. Yeah. I mean, you play good team. It's going to be very interesting. Spot the chargers like this.

Spot Kansas City like this and see what happens. You can't keep, oh, we can come. come back it's great can i can i can i say something can i say some even if you do spot among and even with the charges deep even with the charges offense even with the chief's offense i don't think let's not underestimate how good the bronco defense is oh they're the defense on all on all three levels and offense might be somewhat of Achilles hill for them right now but even special teams is good the special team is good and the defense is phenomenal so they can overcome bad offensive play because

they can make up for it in certain areas. But here's the thing. What happens? Look, this was a bad team. The Raiders are bad. There's no way around it. And I thought the game plan that they implemented tonight was bad. I thought Bo Nix played his worst game of the year. Tonight he was just

downright awful. But Ocho, other team, Kansas City got an offense and a defense. The charges got an offense and a defense. So it's like, yeah, they're going to, you're going to go up. Man, look here, people keep telling me, man, y'all just, y'all just picking on Riley Moss because he, that guy dropped the touchdown. Yeah.

That guy dropped an effing touchdown. Yes. Gino Smith overshot Lockett in the first half are wide open. Now, I understand. That is a tough route to cover. It is. Yes. Well, he missed Lockett on one and he missed the other.

I think it was Thornton. that ran a whip route. Those are a hard route to cover, but we got to stop this. I understand, hey, you don't normally see white guys you can probably count on one hand in the last 50 years

that you've seen a white guy play corner. But boy, if that defense didn't have Allen and Benito and Cooper and those guys, they can get up to quarterback. Hey, they, um, them boys nasty up front, man. Oh, they jump off the ball now.

Matter of fact, the front four for the Broncos right now is the way we talked about the front floor for the Eagles last year. Yeah, they get off the ball. They are hell, especially them two on the out of them two. That goddamn. Bonito and Cooper. Hey, you see how fast he get off the goddamn ball?

Yeah, I do. What's the hell? Don't sleep on 99. Oh, Alan? Oh, yeah. In the middle. Boy, he's whipping ass in there. Yeah, he's nice.

He's nice. He's real. He's real nice. Hey, for some reason, for some reason, on every team, why is it always that the guard and the center are always the weak link to office the line? Why is that? Because your most athletic guys are edge rushers. Your Miles Garrett, your T.J. Watts, your Benito, those guys that play the edge.

Lawrence Taylor, Derek Thomas, all those guys play the edge. So you put your most athletic, you put your least athletic guys on the inside. Right. But then you get a guy like an Aeron Donald or Warren Sapp and they go whip hell out of him. Oh, yep. And so that's what happens. And Allen, he's so, he's tall for D tackle. Right.

And the thing is, he can lock out. And so now he locks out. he'll rip he'll swim he's he's phenomenal yeah he's having he's having a he's having a he's having a there's a whole lot of defensive tackles that are better than him they might have bigger names but he plays at all he plays the run he gets after your quarterback he can pressure your quarterback he bat passes he'll put your quarterback on the ground he's a son he's a hard playing jesse now you got those two guys that's on the outside yeah he don't and cooper that's forcing everything inside so you step up here he's there to clean up right

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Hey. You better not be late. If you're late. But look, they set the game of football back. This offensive football, what we watch tonight, this is not indicative of the Broncos. I'm sorry. I've seen the Broncos and I watch them every week

and I try to watch them watch them closely. And the third quarter is normally a snooze fest for them, but they're better football team than what they showed tonight. They are. The defensively and special teams won them this game tonight. Yes. But, you know, also I think, I think, if I'm not mistaken, the way the play calling was,

I think Sean Payton was actually protecting Bo Nix, making sure he doesn't put him in situations that weren't advantageous for them where he can turn the ball over. Because, you know, I see Bo Nix as somewhat of a gunslinger. He liked to let that thing go. He liked to let it go. So the play calling to me,

it was somewhat conservative to make sure he doesn't put Bo Nix in situations where he can turn the ball over and give the Raiders opportunities to score. nine of 30 on third downs ocho the two teams combined nine of 30 yeah that's crazy that's crazy ain't that nine of 30 ohcho the broncos had it 31 and they run a gimmick yeah oh they're going to throw the ball to court and sutton court and sutton is going to throw the ball come bro get the first y'all are not you see you're struggling offensively right that's what that's what i don't get

I see we're struggling offensively. The last thing I need to do is get these guys off the field. Let me get this first down and maybe we can stay at a rhythm. It's hard. The Broncos punter, he was terrible. The Raiders punter is putting the ball down

at the foot line. He punted the ball out of damn midfield. Yeah. He didn't miss the whole ball. He kicked one ball with the shin. Yeah. I'm like, how you missed the whole damn ball? Yeah, he sank the bad.

He shaked a couple of them. I'm like, well, maybe he can't see. I'm like, bro, what is going on? It's the bright light. You're not going to play again for another 10 days, don't you? You got the weekend off. That display, what they put on display tonight. Defense, defensively, the Broncos are legit defensively.

You're not going to find three, you're not going to find two. Hey, their top three defense, and I'm not so sure they're not two or three. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Their front seven, their front seven match. matches up with anybody I don't give a damn who their front seven is if you like Minnesota if you like the Texas if you like the Eagles if you like the Rams I don't care who you like Green Bay I don't care their front seven their best

defensive player is not there he's not back Pat Sartan the second but when you put him back in there hey they're legit they're legit yeah it's a real deal really Real deal. As much as I want to talk trash, I can't. I can't. First of all, you can't talk trash because they didn't lose. You wanted to come on here.

I saw what you're saying. Broncos lose by the Raiders win by three. Hey, listen, that's what I thought. That's what I thought it was going to be. I think if they went to overtime, there was a chance that the Raiders might have squeezed one out, but they couldn't. The kicker missed a field goal to take it in the overtime at some point.

And I was hoping it would happen. When he missed that kick, I was like, you know what? The game over. because there was nothing that the rating could do offensively. Hell, it took it took it. They couldn't get, I don't think they got the ball back. Did they get the ball back after they missed out of your goal?

Absolutely not. That was a wrap after that point. Yeah. The Broncos moved to eight and two look. And they got all these division games. They're owing one of the division. They've already lost to the charges in LA. So they get Kansas City twice.

They get the Raiders again and they get the charges again, but they get the charges at home. And so they're eight and two. but they're o' and one in the division. The charges haven't lost the game in the division. But the charges got, they got two games against Kansas City also. I'm not even counting.

I'm not even counting. I'm not counting the Raiders. That's a win for everybody. And I knew, man, when Gino got that five bruise. Oh, yeah. Hey, look, that that's contusion. You know, you know, in the morning, when that, when they lock,

when it, when it, when that blood settled. And that blood getting there. It's over Hey, um, let me tell you something Boy, I had one of them On top of the thigh like that Yeah, but a defense alignment, he'd need me Hey, remember when he was little kids

He used to put a little frog in your arm right here Like this? Yeah, hey, that's all it is Man, once that, when that blood hardened up and they got to use that, what's it called Unc, that steel thing, the Grastin. Oh, yeah. They try to break that up.

Oh, my God. And see the thing you, don't you know, that's your guy. He got, he got need on the side. Yeah. Because you saw that big D-Lyman, and I was like, but damn, did he, I was like, is it Achilles? Hey, he needed. And when they showed that thing in slow motion, he got it good, Ocho. Hey.

He got it good. I don't know anybody in the chat, if you've ever had one of those, but your boy have had a couple of them. And man, it ain't, I don't care what you do, you know, where you sleep. I slept with my leg bit. I tie a belt, Ocho, around my leg and slept with it bent the whole night. Right. Somebody told me that dumb ish.

Man, you don't sleep with your bed. And that way it It ain't work Hell no Hey oh no Hey I can barely

I can barely come down the blood themselves I can barely I can barely scrape my leg out Bingo and that's the part

That's the worst I don't know If anybody in the chat Has ever had that When you go to the training room And they got to break it up You bite on that towel

Yeah That thing hurts That little steel And they get the grass And they get the grass and they get the grind in it. Oh, my God. But, hey,

but that pain now? I got, I had one man, my rookie year, Ocho. Yeah. It broke my thigh pad. Put a hole.

Right. Boy, I cry, bro, I'm a rookie. I'm a seventh round draft pick. Right, right. Sharp!

What are you doing? Run. You can run faster than that. Oh my God. Oh Joe, man, you, hey, man, I want to say, shut the, you see me. Man, you see how I'm running. Right. When y'all saw me on film, did I ever run like this on tape?

Mm-hmm. Man, you know my leg messed up. You know something wrong with me. Hey, man, man, you know how I deal with you, they don't care when to hear nothing. They don't want to hear no excuse. Absolutely not. And that, you know, that's the worst thing. To have something wrong with you, to have something wrong with you,

out there and you're trying to compete and you're trying to win yourself a job. Yep. And you got an injury or anything that's hampering your ability to be at your best. That's one of the worst feelings in the world, man. It is. It is. Being injured or not knowing. Yes.

Yeah. Because at least, hey, the one thing that could save you, if you don't know what the hell you're doing, make sure you make that mistake going 100 miles an hour. 100 miles an hour. That's it. Yep. And I was like, man. But the, look.

Look, like you said, Ocho, their defense is going to keep me in a lot of games. You're not just going to go up and down the field on that defense. Absolutely not. Because once they get a bead on you? Yeah, it's a rap. You better have a mobile quarterback than get out of harm's weight. Yeah. Because if you don't, and you see, they track down Jalen Hurts.

They track down Jackson Dart. Those are some of the more mobile quarterbacks. Right. If your quarterback is stationary like Gino is, it's a rap. I mean, listen, they had, this is the rate is. offense has some success because they're so aggressive coming out the field throwing those quick screens out there waiting waiting on the on the screen play to the back you know out out of the back field and but it was only so much they could do you can't run the same play over and over and

over and over and over and over and any type of creativity or like diving deep into into your officer playbook man they had they had an answer for everything they had an answer for everything and based on, look, based on how the weather was tonight, you know the likelihood of the ball going down in the field deep. They're probably going to try one. And the Raiders missed their opportunity. The ball hit

Thornton in his hands, Ocho. That's a touchdown. That is a touchdown. That is a flat drop. Mm-hmm. And you know, not only is it a drop. You know that's the difference in the game, right? Yes. That's the difference in the game. Absolutely.

Because now what is 14. Yeah. you know what makes me man a guy drops the ball and then the DB go comfortable about you played no role in him dropping that ball you were cooked yeah on he go man sit down hey they're funny man they funny oh that used to make me so bad yeah you bro I just dropped it you didn't have anything to do with that you were cooked I beat that what right now I'm now I'm really now I'm really beat myself up, Ocho, because I dropped the past. He talked it-ish like he broke the pants up.

He did something, right. Hey, that's funny. Man, 10 to 7. 10 to 7, Ocho. Garbage. Three hours. And all we got was 10 to 7. When it got to the third court, I had the tweet.

I had a tweet and make sure I wasn't tripping. And asked Twitter, is this game a snooze fest? Yes. Or am I tripping? it was bad it was bad but then some people say it was a good game because no it ain't nobody go say that they're gonna say it they're gonna say every game can't every game you can't go 30 points they got 17 points between the two teams with the way the the way the the defense is handicapped right you only get 17 points between the two teams

I don't understand the Broncos blocked the point got the ball at the 10 and they moved move backwards. Backwards. They get an interception. Tillman running, Tillman played running back. I don't give it that what y'all say. That linebacker number 92 that picked that ball off. Yeah.

The way he was running, we even ended out of traffic. He was a running back at some point in time in his career. At high school or Pop Warner or something, he played running back. Ain't no linebacker running like that with the ball in their hand. That's never had the ball in the hand. It was running trying to get a touchdown. Mm-hmm. It would be, I wish I could have been a flower on the wall.

would love to hear what Sean Payton saying. I guarantee Sean Payton said, look, we won the game, but that was a horse jive. He's going to take responsibility on himself, knowing Sean the way I know him. He's like, hey, that wasn't my finest outing either. Right. I've got to do a better job.

But the plays that I send in, you got to execute better. That's it. That's all that's all to come down to. You know what? You know there's always games like this. You always get games like this throughout the season. And when you're playing a division opponent, who knows you best? Those you see the most often.

Those you see frequently twice a year. So this is how the games are going to be sometimes. Yeah. Dobbies was running the ball. I mean, he's getting five yards. I can't what the Dobbins have. Dobbins had 18 for 77. I thought he ran the ball.

I mean, God, they have a blocker. And Bo Nick, he runs into the tackle. They got the screen set up. outside. I'm like guys, what are y'all doing? What you do is you dart outside to make

it fake outside and you cut up inside or you fake inside and cut outside, yeah. You know, look, it would have been very, very tough to block Max Crosby because he jumps around so much. You don't know where he's going to be. And he's really great at

snatch pulling you. Mm-hmm. You know, he, ha, ha, ha. And the next thing, you know you're on your down face. But you can't stop your feet, because if you stop your feet, he goes, you're done. You're done. You're done.

So if he jumps inside, just wash him. Just tell you're running back, look, be ready to come behind me. Mm-hmm. Because he's all over the place. He's down in a stance. He's in a three-point stance. He's in a four-point stance. He's standing up.

So it's really hard to get a bead on what he's going to do. Yeah. The only thing that's your only saving grace, Ocho, is that you know where the ball's going. So now it doesn't matter what he's going to do. I just can't let him beat me inside if the ball's going away from it. If the ball's coming my way, he jumps inside. I just wash it.

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Every week, Florio, LQ, and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop, and trade to bring that championship trophy home. I just want to remind everyone how good Rishie Rice was last season, and these three healthy games. He was the wide receiver 2 and fantasy. I think Rishie Rite just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip pass to Rice. This side, touchdown! Remindry Stevens is my sleeper this week.

This is a matchup where I think I can slug. Biden, Stevenson, in my flex position, and he could deliver double-digit points this week. Drake takes the snap. Hands it off. We're moderating running it right. And we're running into the end zone. Touchdown. It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL fantasy football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Greg Rosenthal, host of NFL Daily. No matter of the day, NFL Daily has fresh content in your feed. Last week's games, we recapped them. The unexpected happened in so many in these games. games and I love it. This week was like the defensive line stepping in getting a stop on fourth and goal.

Get the old Mo back on your side. It was a lot of good defensive stops, including in the game of the day. This week's games, we previewed him. He is the best quarterback in the league this year. He reminds me a little bit of Tom Brady in his later years, and this is a compliment. He's no longer hanging in quite as much to take those big hits because he's playing the long game. They're not going to get pressure on him.

Newsflash. It's not going to happen. I think they smoke them. And so much more for all. All you football sickos, listen to NFL Daily on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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That's it. But, you know, look, they win the ball game. I guarantee you, they probably think the Broncos, I mean, a lot of the fans, like, yeah, we're happy we won, we got to see our team win, but they're disappointed. They're like, we can't play like this and expect to win games. Ocho, we got some very sad news to share. Cowboys defensive end, Marshawn Neeland, sadly died this morning after the apparently taking his own life after a brief police chase

and a vehicle crash, according to authorities. The news that's rocked the NFL community today. The Broncos held a moment of silence before tonight's game. I believe around the league Sunday, everybody will hold a moment of silence leading in the Monday night's game. They will hold a silence for the young man. Ocho, what was the first thoughts when you heard the news? I mean, my first thoughts was, you know,

especially where he is right now. in a good space. He had a good game, scored his first touchdown, you know, on special teams. And I thought there might have been an issue. Honestly, you know, listen, we family. I can share, I thought it might have been an issue at home, you know, issue with his girl or something. And things went left and, you know, come to find out, if I'm not mistaken. He fled. He was running from the cops or whatever it may be. So I just thought maybe it stemmed from that and just, I'm not sure what headspace he was in. But it's sad.

It's sad, honestly. And I wish, I wish things, you know, had to be different, you know, for him, for his sake, for his family's sake. And I'm praying for, obviously, for the Cowboys fan, Cowboys, you know, Cowboys players, and obviously his family as well. But, I mean, that's the first thing that went through my head, huh? I mean, everything, everything is going. going right for a young man as you would assume on the outside looking in and most of the time

there are certain disturbances that happen with those closest to you that that that kind of sway you to do things that are somewhat uncharacteristic you know of you and it makes you makes decisions that just are tough very tough and and because of that whatever it may be you know I'm not just telling you what I thought when I first heard it, but whatever did happen, I'm sure it will come out. But, and it's sad. It's sad.

You had your whole career in front of you. You had your whole career. Sometimes it gets dark. We were on our way back from L.A. this morning and Jordan said, boss, you see this cowboy player died? I said, huh? I said, how old was he?

He said 24. I said it's suicide. He said, why you say that? I said because it wasn't a car accident, because it was a car accident, they just said that. 24-year-olds just don't drop dead. No.

That's before I knew anything. Yes, sir. 24-year-old young men playing the NFL just don't drop dead. They don't. I'll share a story, not now, because this is our time to grieve him. But you don't know, boy,

when people going through something? you got to be really really strong really really really really I can't emphasize really enough I'll share a story about what 25 is done what 25 and the things that I've gone through publicly and privately but in this situation

it is reported that his girlfriend called police and asked for a wellness check he had a he has a gun and if what's being reported, he will end it. He will end it. He will end it. She kept emphasizing that. It's also being reported that in the group, Chaddy said, he said goodbye to his family.

Obviously, that's not normal. Probably those closest to around him probably knew that he probably dealt with something, but probably didn't know the severity in which he was dealing with it. You know, we, you know, we, we think we know people, we do, we think we know people and yeah, man, I'm good, bro. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Nah. And, and you don't want to, you say, well, I don't want to pride, man.

Man, you don't know what's, man, you don't know the hell that somebody has dealing in their head. Yes. And the thing is, is that when you're going through something, you're like, man, I just, I just want to be out of this pain. Mm-hmm. But when you go that step, think about all the pain that those that's left behind are gonna have to deal with.

All the unanswered questions. Yes, sir. Now, what did I do? What did I go wrong? What could I have done? Did I misdicize? Is there something I could have done? Could I intervene sooner?

What is it that I miss? Now they have to question themselves. They ask themselves tough questions. Yeah, he's out of pain. Those demons got him. and and and and and I feel I just feel bad for people that that parents are not supposed to bury kids it's supposed to be the other way around the way around yeah and I can just I can just imagine and and and if it's my if it's mom is dad those that loved him that cared about him I can only imagine the hell because it's already tough when when when when when that appointment that you have mm-hmm that can't be rescheduled it's already tough but also the man upstairs knew how this thing was going to play out he knew he already the moment you born he already know how you're going to leave yeah i just my heart breaks for his family

my heart break for those that that cared about him that loved him that but you don't know man i'm telling you i'm telling you when you low yeah And you like, and you don't think there's no other way to end this pain, to end this disappointment, to end this heartbreak. Tell you, Ocho, I'm telling you, man, you have to, you have to fall on your knees. Yeah. Hey, it's tough, you know, you know, man. Hey, bro. Hey, listen, hold on.

Hey, now, now we don't, we don't both been there now too now. Yeah, oh, Joe. Hey, you're talking about, I'm talking about the lowest of the lows. I'm talking about, um, sitting on top of the mouth. at 12 o'clock in the afternoon. Boy, by the next, the next day at 11, but I was at the bottom. Yeah.

In a 20, before you go in for the Ocho, his mom passed away last year. She just passed away. Boy, hey, that's a pain like no weather. You hear me? Well, when I lost Hurricane Paula, you talk about pain and the only thing

that was able to, the only reason, I got to think about them little ones. See, that's how I'm able to be able to compartmentalize and understand, okay, I can grieve, I can be hurt, but then the other side of me, I still got to stay strong for them. I still got business. I got to take care of. So I had to be even keel in a sense. Listen, you know, life does continue to go on. So I'm going to have to do this grieving as I finish his journey.

I ain't I ain't got no I don't have no choice You don't I just remember Ocho And My grandma said it twice She never said it in front of me But she said something else I remember she told my She uh the doctors came in

Sorry chat The doctors came in the room and Libby was just as plain as day they said well Miss Porter how you doing she said I'm not doing well Doc I'm dying said it just like that she said Miss Porter you can't say like this you can't say that you can't think like that and Libby say

she said Granny don't say that granny Granny said I know I'm dying that was the first time about a month later my cousin Linda was in the room She said, Ed May, uh, uh, Linda's mom and granny was sisters, Annie Mae and Granny. So she said, Aunt Mary, how you doing? She said, I ain't doing good Linda.

I'm dying. Just like that. Libby had nothing told me and Granny knew Libby had told me. So I come in there and I'm all sad. She said, boy, why are you sad? She said, we all got to do it, son. We all got to live here. We got to leave here.

We ain't come to stay. I got up and walked out the room. I can honestly say I've never been the same since. When my granny died, a part of me died with her. I won't ever be the same. I won't ever love the same. I've tried. I've never going to love anybody like I love that woman.

Because even when I was wrong, she said, baby, you wrong, but I love you. It broke me. And when I went back in that room, Oh Joe, I remember it like yesterday. I went back in that room. they were doing a story on me for the Denver Post, Mike Cliss, and I stopped me. She was crying. I'm talking about uncontrollably.

Yeah. And I stopped Mike, and I went in the room, and I got in my arms. And I said, Granny, what's wrong? And I got in my arms, and she just moving back and forth, back and forth. Granny, what's wrong? I said, Granny, it's okay. I got it. She looked at me.

I said, Grady, I got it. I said, I got Libby. I got spanky. And I got Mama. It's okay. I got it. I said, you and Papa did what you're supposed to do. I said, Granny, don't worry about it anymore.

I got this. if you need to go home to rest go home and know your baby got it Mm-hmm Ohcho I left That was Like a Wednesday Thursday I called home

I called Libby and say yeah I said you already home She said yeah granted say she needed some rest 30 minutes later leave it called me back people called Granny was gone she wasn't going until she was not going

until her baby said it was going to be okay once I told Granny it was going to be okay that I had lived I had spake and I had mama yeah it was like a weight was lifted off her because her whole life she had worried about everybody now she okay if I leave her who's going to worry about them

who gonna take care of him me I don't sleep because I can't turn my mind off I've been in survival mode since I was about nine years old why don't go vacation because I can't because I can't stop to turn my mind off I lay up so many nights thinking about my brother

and my sister and my mom worried about my kids if something happens to Shannon who's going to take care of them my mom's been retired 20 years my sister ain't worked in 50 years my brother's retired who is gonna yes I've got everything all the parameters in place but who that's what I worry about that's why I worked so damn hard that's why I was in L.A did a club shayshay interview did nightcap got up at 530 this morning caught a 7 o'clock flight here came back took a shower Took an hour nap and went and did another club

Shays your interview. And here I am doing it tonight. Nightcap. That's why. Because there's nobody else. Mary and Barney Porter, that is my calling. I got to take care of my family. That's what I got to do,

That's what I'm here for. Man, you shot up. All I thought about was getting rained on. All I thought about you told about, oh, you ate that? All I thought about when I was in Denver is what I ate all the night that we didn't have anything to eat. That's what I thought about. That's what drove me, Ojo. There were many nights.

I was obsessed with it. It drove me. There are many nights. Like I said, I'm going to share my story. I want to talk this about Neeland. But I know what that young man was going through. I know. There been a many days, oh Joe, I'm in my living room and I fall on my knees.

I say, I know you the Alpha and the Omega. You're the King of King, the Lord of Lords. I stretch my hand to be no other help I know if you leave me where I'm going to go I said father I know you didn't bring me this father believe me now I can just imagine to hurt if he if he cared about his mom like I love my granny

I can imagine to hurt because I know the day my sister called me That night she called me, I was never, ever the same. And I'm never going to be the same. And anybody that be in my life need to understand that. I'm going to love you. I'm going to give you everything I got. But Mary Viola Porter gave me everything but life.

Everything but life. What you see. The discipline, the hard work, the dedication. She used to tell me and my brother all the time, it'd take all that to make a man. Man, my heartbreak for this young man's family, 24 years old. Perfect, a pitch of health on the outside. But there's a volcano going on inside that we can't see. There's a saying that says we create our demons and only we can chase them.

away. Sometime when you're at your weakest, that's where the old devil would try to get you, Joe, oh, Joe. Oh, yeah. That's when he tried to get you. But if you're not careful, he'll get you when you're at your highest, too, because you'll let your guard down.

It only took me one time. to kneeling family friends and loved ones anybody that that came in contact with this young man I grieve with you I pray with you all I can offer your thoughts and prayers and hopefully in this most troubled time God brings you comfort he brings you peace and he brings you understanding. I hurt for the family. Orcho, they say if you walk a man, a mile in a man's shoes, then you'll understand.

The only way you understand. You can't walk a mile in the man's shoes, Ocho. Because the very mile that you walked in his shoes might be the best day of his life. You got to spend an eternity. got to spend the experience you have to walk step for step day for day week for week month for month year for year to get a sense of what a man is going through or what a person's going through for them demons man you got to be strong oh joe yeah and like you said you need to be strong for other people that's don't that's what that's the

one thing keep me going because I didn't been I didn't been at the lowest of lows I know I didn't have been at the highest of highs and I learned after being at my lowest how can I always keep myself even kill at all times not get too high not get too low but stay right in that middle no matter what no matter how bad how sad I am no matter how good I'm feeling always stay right there even kill right and sent him my focus has always been completely different always been completely different

losing mama losing grandma on top of the other issues man we all we all fight a different battle we all fight something

everybody we all at war everybody fighting something yes 24 years of 24 years young 24 years young hell you remember you was 24 I remember when I was 24 hell my kids yeah the one time this is not the first time he's fought this battle this is the first time the battle this is the first time the I was one.

Cowboys, I pray for you. Dak went through something very similar, his brother. Dak spoke about a falling teammate today. It's been very tough day. Tragic loss. I hurt, heavy, heavy, heavy heart today. I hurt for my Sean.

I hurt for his family. I hurt for his girlfriend. every single one of my teammates is just the pain that you don't wish upon anyone. You wish none of this, none of us had to go through it. You wish Marshaun didn't have to go through it. What he went through, just thankful for each moment we have in this life, and you don't want to take it for granted. You're talking somebody that has the first tan account.

He lost the brother. Mm-hmm. I can only imagine I can't even begin to fathom the pain the hurt that the Cowboys fans the cowboy players his family, his friends, his loved ones

I can't even fathom that kind of pain I hurt for my heart breaks for him All I can say, if you go through something, talk to somebody. Talk. Maybe he felt there was no one to talk to. There was no one to turn to, Ocho.

Mm-hmm. No one heard his cries. His silent screams. His whispering yells. They went unheard. Marshawn Lee-Lan, tragically dead at the age of 24. Oh, Joe someone you know very well.

Well, Antonio Brown was arrested on attempted murder charge stemming from a shooting after celebrity boxing event in Miami, police confirmed today. Miami police said Brown was taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. He was flown to Essex County, New Jersey, where he was being held pending extradition to Miami. It was unclear why Brown was taken, why AB was taken to New Jersey first or how long he's been in Dubai, although he has posted several times on social media over the past few months from there. According to the arrest warrant, detailing the May 16th shooting, AB is accused of grabbing a handgun from a security staffer after a boxing match and firing two shots at a man. He had been fist fighting with earlier.

The man told the investigators that one of the bullets grazed his neck. Oh, Cho? Yeah. AB arguably one of the most dominant receivers, not just in his era of his time. I mean, you look at from 2010 to 2018. He was a four-time first-team all-pro. He was a seven-time pro bowler

and he was a Super Bowl with the bucks And he did it Um I just wish A-B realized how special he was He didn't realize it Ocho Ocho

That You ain't got Listen You ain't got to tell me You know I know you got to understand We now we all grew up together we all come from the same area we all train together

I was watching AB when is that Northern High School when he was in high school I got seen him at Central Michigan we trained every offseason together for years years every offseason me AB Santana Moss

Andre Johnson I mean it's a constant constant to make sure that union that union as far as receivers that come from Dade County we stay together and always stay on the right path always understanding how we got

what we are the work we put in to get to this point iron sharpens iron so we made sure we all stayed aligned with each other and did everything the right way always I'm not sure at what point I understand he knows he's great we always told him he was great I'm not sure at what point everybody else

we straight we straight straight line. Even I was a fool, Unk. Even I was a fool in a fun, entertaining way. But listen, I know what lines not to cross. Right. I understood what lines not the cross because there are certain bridges. I don't want to burn that I knew I would need on the

back end. I don't, I'm, I'm, I, I try to talk to him. I try it, um, because, bro, I'm talking about people understand it. I sent a, like a broken heart when I saw, you know, what happened. And when I saw the news on Twitter,

and people were like, why are you sending? Man, it's history. This ain't got nothing to do with football. Yeah, it's bigger than football. Way big of the football. I know the man on a personal level. You know him as a fan. I know on a personal level.

Yeah. And so it hurt to see that it's come to this point, you know, and you try to talk to individuals, but stuff like that when it comes to someone that's grown and is able to make their own decisions, you know, you kind of let things play out for what they are because maybe he's doing something that he feels is the right thing, even though it may be crazy from the outside looking in.

Maybe there's a method to a madness. But when it gets to this point, God damn, not my dog. You know, maybe something like this is in a sense, I don't know how things are going to turn out, but maybe this is something he might need. They're bringing back home if you understand what I mean. Something to bring you back home and getting back on the right track.

I'm not sure what the outcome of this will be but I mean man you know I'm here for him if you ever need to me you could ever reach out you know I'm always here man it's there's three people hung it's three people

no matter what A B is one of them Hushman Zada and that damn Tio I don't care I don't care what it is but if they ever need anything but I wouldn't I don't care if it was I was on my last you got it I don't care it just I just oh shit that shit hurt I just I just never wanted to bother because you're grown you know so it's it's you know I want to stay in my place you know and

that shit just made me sad to see for somebody that special to understand all the obstacles and sacrifices he would do what came to get there to get where you at and then it's just to let it go like that when it's it's crazy i don't know to look i all i know is about what they said i guess he had got into a fight with somebody was a celebrity boxing match uh i guess he felt he was getting jumped and he took the security guards i i guess from what it is i guess he took the security guards firearm I don't know I don't know um I don't know um I mean I know you think that you're not in Emirates but you need to go to Russia if you were trying to get away you need to go to

Russia you need to go to somebody with China somebody they ain't cool with the US you see Edward Snowden oh yeah hey you see where he's at oh yeah he still locked up all this time he ain't locked up he over there what you call him in russia oh yeah they can't they can't extradite him nope he was a spy something like that huh he stole all that encrypted info yeah yeah i just man i mean hopefully this all gets resolved uh have had our differences but in a situation like this I just have sympathy I have empathy for him we all make mistakes we all go through things and it's just tough it's just

tough to see somebody that was so talented so immensely talented obviously you knew him on a different level than I knew him I just knew him on a surface level covered him for a number of years and to see this happen. It's just tough. It's extremely tough. I just,

boy, like I said, I just, you know, sometimes also you, you, you know, we get to a level we do feel like

we're untouchable. Invincible? I feel like we're invincible. And I'm like I don't know, he just, he was special. I wish he could have stayed focused, stayed in Pittsburgh,

stayed with Big Ben, ain't no telling what kind of numbers he could have put up with Big Ben. No kind of numbers. He was, like I said, hopefully he can, someone that loves him and cares about him

and understands him, can talk to him and reason with him. Sometimes it's hard to reason with someone that's unreasonable. you know you try like hey man you know blah and it's just there ain't even trying to hit that you're talking to a mocho you ever be talking to somebody you're like and you know they're not listening no you know everything that you said

is going through one ear not the other and you know else it's hard too long it's hard to listen to somebody when they feel exactly like you said when they're on top of the world and they feel invincible it's hard even though that's your dog and you know that's your homeboy you understand he grown and you know he's moving a different way than you know the way you move so you you got the respect for the decision making you know he's he is grown and then you kind of question some of the people around you know like wait a minute that ain't what that ain't they ain't even that ain't even home team they ain't been there not not through what we not through what we went

through to get to right because if it was they wouldn't even let you be doing the shit you're doing true but again you know I'm I'm I'm in the background and I really can't you know you've grown so I thought there was a method to the madness but man love him to death I don't agree with all the decisions and some of the things he does but love him to death because it's bigger for us for me it's bigger than football that's home team always has been for years since since a baby mm-hmm you get it he get figured out on joe um you know like i said i just i just like i said i don't really know all the ends and out of you know the police probably took witness statements and said this is kind of what transpired in this you know discharging a firearm yeah oh they got the whole video with that that little incident there oh dude it what oh you ain't see that i didn't oh man they got the whole fight and everything clear's day four okay damn yeah yeah yeah yeah for okay so I mean, yeah, man, I don't know, um, man.

I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I hope everything turned out on the up and up and young bull get a chance to, you know, redeem and get back on the right pad. Mm-hmm. That's it. You said something very interesting, Ocho, you said, you know,

you didn't want to burn no bridge. Why would I destroy a bridge that I might have to cross back over on? We don't think like that all the time, no. You don't. You don't think like, listen, I, Unk, One thing about it, I may play around a lot. You know, I might get into this, this character of being goofy here on this show. But I think long term, I think very strategically, very methodically and everything I do.

You hear. I'm thinking down the road, five, ten years from that. Like, there's a reason I'm not a statistic. You're not, you're not hearing me. I play a fool, but I'm not one. Yeah. There's a reason I'm not a statistic. I tell guys all the time, Mocho.

I say, man, look, just try to outlook. Everything is not going to be perfect. But bro, when you get to these teams, just play hard, work hard, because you never know when you're going to need to reach out or ask the team for a favor to help you to do something. I've always tried to stay in good standing with the Broncos. I've always tried to stay in good standing with the Ravens. They understand I have a job to do,

and sometimes I have to critique them harshly. Yeah. They understand that. But I always tried to be a very good representative. Yeah. Especially when I played. Mm-hmm. Not to get in any trouble and, you know,

be out there fighting and carrying on and act on a damn food. You know, not mainly, mainly because of Mary Porter. Because I was the biggest reflection on her. Right, right. But I just, uh. I had a healthy balance of both, though. Yeah. I would, listen, I'm going to represent home team.

I'm going to represent everything. I'm going to give you every bit of day county I got in me. You feel me? Yeah. In a structure environment, that is the NFL, which is all about control, and refusing, you know, those to be individuals. So I'm going to have my fun and be me. But I'm also going to, I'm a teeter the line,

but I'm not going to cross it because I'm going to need you in the long run. I understood that. Listen, for the life of me, I understood it. Right. So, I mean, just being able to balance both, I did it very well. I did it very well. I got myself in the character the same way I, when I come on here. When I come on here, man, I'm in character, I'm having fun.

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