Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: USC upsets LSU, Nick Saban has Coach Prime's back
Episode Date: September 2, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to USC's win over LSU, former Alabama head coach Nick Saban standing up for Colorado head coach Deion Sanders in the face of media criticism, an u...pdate on San Francisco 49ers rookie Ricky Pearsall's condition, and much more!04:30 - Show Starts04:30 - USC BEATS LSU14:05 - Arizona WR goes for 300 +18:47 - Coach Prime and the Media28:45 - Miami players say don’t go to Florida31:40 - Ricky Perasall47:48 - Chiefs vs Ravens(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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everything is 20 off now oh joe let's get right into it usc oh yeah goes on well neutral site
game open it up college weekend usc beats lsu this might be lincoln's riley's biggest win
there was a lot you know he's under the gun oh joe yeah he was he was especially after last year he was Lincoln Riley
has a big win for USC
it comes in the opener his third
opener as the Trojans head coach the game
is on a neutral field but maybe these
Trojans are better suited
I like the new addition of DeAnton
Lynn he's
the son of my former teammate Anthony
Lynn who's the head coach of the
Chargers at one point in time.
He was with the 49ers last year, and if I'm not mistaken,
he might be the OC for the Commanders.
So that's his son, and they did an outstanding job
of winning this ballgame.
The quarterback, both quarterbacks played well.
Miller Moss came in.
We saw when Caleb Williams sought out the bowl game, Ojo,
he came in, set an SC record
through six touchdowns, was named bowl MVP.
Same thing with Nussmeyer
because both guys had to wait their turn.
Both guys get transferred.
Caleb Williams transferred in.
Jalen Daniels transferred in.
They win a Heisman Trophy,
so each guy waited their turn.
We saw foreshadow what Miller Moss
was probably capable of doing
in the bowl last year
where he tossed six touchdowns and he won
the bowl MVP.
But what did you like about what you saw, Ocho?
You saw USC
have some terrible losses last year,
but they get off on a great
good foot this year.
Well, listen, before the season started, I think
both coaches were under the gun. I think both coaches were under the gun.
I think both coaches were under the gun.
For the third time in week one of the season,
Brian Kelly has started 0-1 to start the season.
Obviously, last year, defense was an issue
with Lincoln, Raleigh, and USC.
Then there were questions coming into this previous season.
The quarterbacks, two Heisman quarterbacks are gone.
Jayden Daniels is gone. Caleb Williams is gone. How are the quarterbacks, two Heisman quarterbacks are gone. Jane Daniels is gone.
Caleb Williams is gone.
How are the quarterbacks going to step up?
Obviously, we saw Miller Moss last year in the bowl game step up when Caleb Williams decided not to play.
So you kind of got a small symbol size of what to expect.
And you saw it tonight.
On the other side of the ball, Garrett Neusmeier played really well.
He played really well.
Both defenses played really well.
We saw a different
USC defense as opposed to what we
saw last year.
Very promising.
I think maybe also playing in
neutral site made it
kind of even keel
for both teams where one
crowd wasn't able to dominate the game and affect
the game when either team was on offense.
I think LSU,
they look good. What I would have liked
to see them do is the way they
started the game out, getting Kyron Lacy
the ball like he was him.
I mean, he kind of disappeared
the rest of the game. He did.
He disappeared the rest of the game. You started
the game on fire, going straight down
the field, moving them around.
I mean, there were a couple of penalties where there was some motion difficulties,
you know, two people moving at the same time.
But if he's your best player, you get him the ball.
You feature him.
But listen, either way, it was a good game.
I really enjoyed it from both teams.
Both teams have two very, very good quarterbacks.
I saw at the end of the game, Garrett Neusmeier,
you know, hanging his head.
Looked like he wanted to cry.
There's really nothing to cry about, son.
Nothing to cry about.
You played one hell of a goddamn game.
They need to do a better job of pushing the ball down the field.
But that was a heck of a play.
I forget his name, number 10.
He had two one-handed catches.
That second one was really huge.
Hey, you saw the one in the middle of the field?
Yeah.
And then Ocho, they got him with a targeting.
But that was all on the corner.
Because first of all, you're playing cover two.
You got to funnel the wide receiver in.
If you look, if I'm not mistaken, Ocho,
I don't think they have an offset back.
So now there's an immediate threat.
So now I'm going to funnel the wide receiver in
but I'm going to sit back.
I'm going to sit.
I got
to help my safety because
if I let him free release, they're going to do exactly what
they did. He didn't put his hands on him
and they hit him with a hole shot.
Now your safety is in a bind and he
targets him. So now you get half the
distance to the goal on top of a
20-yard completion. If he had done
what he was supposed to do, funnel him
inside, sink back because there's
no immediate threat to the flat. Now
that's a much more
difficult throw to complete.
But give Miller Moss credit.
Give the receiver credit. That is a
hell of a throwing catch because you know,
as a wide receiver, Ocho, you know that safety coming.
Are we coming off that hash now?
Are you coming off that hash?
And he coming with bad intention.
Miller Moss knows, Ocho, I got to get this ball up
and I got to get it down.
Yes, sir.
Or that's a medicine ball.
In other words, the guy going to come gonna come out there he gonna open the back door
to an ambulance and put your ass in it
so that's the medicine that you gonna
medicine that you gonna be receiving
that's the medicine you gonna get
but that's a lesson I'm sure
you know a lot of times
it's not like they haven't rehearsed that
Ocho they know in a situation
like that okay guys we're playing cover
two funnel the guy
in. There's no immediate threat. There's no offset
back. You just sink because
I don't want him to get that ball up and down
in the hole.
That was a great throw. That was a great
catch. Great concentration.
Give the guy credit.
SC played well.
This is why I think Kyron Hudson
is his name.
That's what we wanted to see from SC because, look,
they score 40 and 50 points,
but they give it up 45 and 55 points.
Yeah.
Defense was the issue.
Defense was the issue.
And they played very, very good defense tonight.
One game, let's see.
They're in the Big Ten now, Ocho.
So it's going to be interesting. And you know ohio state you know michigan you know they can run they can run michigan can run the ball
you know they're gonna try to run the ball right ohio state has those athletes they're gonna spread
you out they're gonna throw it they got an outstanding wide receiver when is ohio state
not had an outstanding wide receiver or wide receivers for that matter.
But it's going to be interesting.
But I did like what I saw from SC.
They did a great job.
Miller-Moss seems to be the real deal.
Playing against an SEC, we know what the SEC represents.
But give to SC credit, there's a lot of pressure on Lincoln Riley.
He has to get it done.
He has to get it done.
With the pressure being on Lincoln Riley,
what they showed the night is a great measuring stick for where they want to
go.
This is what you can bill off of.
You can bid off of this.
You can compete against any goddamn body.
If you have that kind of offensive production and that type of defensive
production that you had tonight. I don't care who
you line up across from.
If you play like you
played tonight, you're going to be alright unless
you play in Georgia. The thing was
though, Joe, look, they gave up
421 total yards,
but they didn't give up any really big plays.
No big plays. That was the thing.
They made Nusma
check down low, you know,
high percentage throws, but they weren't big throws right and so long hey i believe if i don't give
you the big play and you have the nickel and dime your way down the field i believe you'll make a
mistake before you get the ball in the end zone so that's the thing most defense is like hey as
long as we don't give up the chunk plays, I like our chances.
If they want to go 15 plays, you're not going to consistently go 15,
17 plays and get the ball in the end zone.
You're going to make a mistake.
We're going to get our hands up.
We're going to pull one out.
Something's going to go wrong.
And so that's why the defense is to tell themselves, look, guys,
as long as we don't give up the big plays, we're going to be just fine.
Make them go the long way. Make them go
12, 15, 17 plays.
It's the one-two plays.
It's the Tyreek plays that
kill you. Yeah, every time.
So SC
does it. They win
27-20 over LSU.
23 SC.
Number 20, number 20th ranked LSU.
LSU losing.
Like you mentioned, Ocho, Brian Kelly.
The first games of the season have been tough on him.
Hey, listen.
Three years in a row, he's starting the season off 0-1.
He's not getting off on a good foot now.
Well, look.
Now you got Oklahoma in that division.
Now you got Texas in that division now you got Texas in that division
you still got Alabama
to deal with you got Georgia
you got Ole Miss Lane
you got Tennessee
now
ain't no off weeks
ain't no off weeks
ain't no off weeks
nah you
give us old Vanderbilt you know we can
always guess a homecoming game we got
Vanderbilt
they ain't they gonna be they gonna be your doctors and your
lawyers and your account they ain't gonna be
a whole lot of them ain't gonna be playing on Sunday
so let's get in there for homecoming
when we play Vanderbilt
mom you gotta come down here we got homecoming
the first week of September
yeah
you put them on the schedule because you gotta put mom, you got to come down here. We got homecoming the first week of September. Yeah.
Because you put them on the schedule because you got to put a team on the schedule, Ocho.
You know you can beat.
You got all the alumni coming back.
Man, you don't want to catch no L or no homecoming.
You can't embarrass yourself.
You can't embarrass yourself.
Yeah.
But again, FC wins 27-20 over LSU.
Arizona wide receiver.
You catch raw?
McMillan?
Tatora McMillan?
How you say his name?
I think Tatora.
Tatora?
Tatora?
Tatora.
That sounds about right.
Tatora.
McMillan kicked off his highly anticipated junior season
with a record-setting night.
The preseason all
american and projected first round pick set a new school record 304 receiving yards four
touchdowns on 10 catches in the wildcats excuse me 6139 victor over new mexico the 65 210 pound
wide receiver delivered the first 300 yard performance performance by a college receiver since Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
347 in the Rose Bowl against Utah.
Only five other FBS receivers have ever topped 300 yards
over the past decade.
That's the mythical number for a wide receiver.
It used to be 200, Ocho.
Now 200, you got to get three Bs.
Yeah, it ain't nothing.
Listen, I think Flipper Anderson in the NFL still holds the record
for the most receiving yards in the game.
You know, with 339.
Yeah, like you said.
A collegiate receiver, obviously, sometimes, you know, to me,
I like to put an asterisk by it.
It's an amazing feat.
It's an amazing feat to do.
But I would like to see it done against the elite competition, the better competition.
You get where I'm going with this?
Well, once you call him Hit 407, what's the dude from La Tech?
He went to Pittsburgh, Troy.
Yeah.
He hit 407.
Was that against the elite competition?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. But I like it though especially what it does is when you put up numbers like that right and it raises eyebrows it raises
eyebrows absolutely it raises eyebrows to the nfl the nfl uh scouts the gm the owners well he doing
this but then i sometimes look at the competition you're playing against it's like uh well it against so and so so after a performance like this now the pressure is on you to continue
beat to be consistent and not put up 300 yard game from this point on he's about going first round
squeezing into the the top 10 pick yeah being consistent and getting game after game after game putting up unbelievable numbers
and your stock just rises yeah i think it's right so young bull young bull from arizona
he got the opportunity to do something special is to continue being consistent from this point on
putting up huge games not game not monster games like this but regardless to the competition you
go out there and handle your goddamn business well Well, the thing was, Ocho,
he was already on the radar because he's
a preseason All-American. 6'5",
210 pounds.
If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, I think it was
Troy Edwards, and I think he did that
number on Nebraska. I think he had 407
yards receiving.
He ended up getting into the first round.
I think the Steelers selected
him.
405 yards.
He had 405 receiving yards, Ocho.
What year was this?
98.
Because he went in the first round in 99.
The Steelers selected.
If I'm not mistaken, the Steelers selected him over Javon Kirst.
Whoa.
Can you imagine Javon Kirst in that 3-4 defense with the Steelers?
Boy. Hey, you know, he would fit perfect, too, if you think about it. whoa can you imagine Javon Kirsten that 3-4 defense with the Steelers boy
hey you know he would fit
perfect too if you think about it as opposed to
going to Tennessee
he would have fit perfect right in that
goddamn defense before he got
hurt
people don't realize how good Freak
was man
man before he hurt that ankle
yeah
man we go down you go down to a delphi coliseum
and then we talk about oh freak out
oh oh joe that big that's what he started doing it right here on joe yeah
hey that long ass that longpan. Yeah, man.
Man.
I saw it firsthand.
Yeah, man.
But I think Megatron had 329 against the Cowboys one year.
Yeah.
There have been a couple of 300 yards.
Jimmy Smith hit us up for 296 in 2000.
He had like 15 catches, 296 and three touchdowns.
That was Dwayne Starks. I think that was D. Starks
and Samari Roll.
And McAllister.
Hey,
Mark Brunel and Jimmy
was abusing y'all that day.
He tore everybody
up that day.
Oh yeah, he did.
I remember that game.
All right, Ocho. Yeah. I remember that game. Uh, I don't show coach.
Prime has faced increased media scrutiny lately,
but Nick Saban had his back yesterday while on college game day,
looked at the,
uh,
best,
uh,
HBCU game for week one.
Saban chose to highlight the time,
what time had done for HBCUs.
Well,
the HBCU to me,
there's a conference that gets overlooked a little bit.
I think they play some really good football and there's a lot of big game.
No one realized the impact Dion had on the SWAT.
They got a huge TV contract, which has not enabled them to upgrade their facilities, their programs as well.
Provide better opportunities for their players to develop people as students and have better careers as football players.
What do you think, Ojo?
I mean, it's a dope thing.
It's a great thing.
I think, I don't think people,
I think people do understand,
especially those that are part of the culture,
part of the HBCU culture, alumni, former players,
obviously people like us understand the effect
that Deion had being at Jackson State
and some of the things that they were able to reap
as far as from a benefit concern.
And I think they are overlooked.
I think they are overlooked.
But it's one thing that I always say,
and I've always said it,
and I tell a lot of players that it really doesn't matter
when you go to school.
If you make enough noise, if you're really him, if you're really him or really who you're supposed to be or really who you think you are, it doesn't matter where you go.
It's what you do once you get there.
They will find you.
That's it.
They will find you if you put it on film.
They're going to find you.
If you're really that good, then you should stand out on film.
When you stand out on film, it's easy to find you. If you're really that good, then you should stand out on film. When you stand out on film,
it's easy to find
you, but if you blend in like everybody else
and you're just a number, then that's
the difference.
Now you think you're something that you're not.
You're going to have to stand out for the
simple fact scouts are not coming scouting
these schools like they go Michigan, Alabama,
Georgia, so forth and so on.
You're going to have to stand out. You got to. When you so on. So you're going to have to stand out.
You got to. And so when you're at that,
you're going to have to be a shark in a pond
or whale
as we say Moby Dick. You need to be Moby
Dick and you need to be playing amongst
minnows. And so
when you do that, now all of a sudden
you had no tension. You had no choice
but to see Jerry Rice. You
had no choice but to see Walter Payton. You had no choice but to see Jerry Rice. You had no choice but to see Walter Payton.
You had no choice but to see
Steve McNair or Shannon Sharp
or Michael Strahan.
We left you no choice.
No choice, yeah. But to come
down and say, well, hold on, I got to see what's causing all this
ruckus. I heard about these guys,
but I need to see it for myself.
Yeah. I tell people all the
time, like you guys and those names you just named,
it's not about where they were playing.
It's about what they were doing, where they were at.
Once that film was rolling, once you turn that film on,
it's 11 players on the field.
Yep.
It's easy.
It's easy to catch the eye of a scout.
It's easy to catch the eye of a GM if you're really catch the eye of a gm if you're really who you
think you are on that field yeah it's just the product is gonna sell itself you ain't got to do
nothing else i always hear dude talk about man i want to go to um man i want to go to florida state
man i want to go to florida i want to go to alabama but if you can't get it done at the
little school you at if you're not shining at the little school you at. If you're not shining at the little school you at, what you gonna do once you get to the big stage?
It's gonna be tough.
Yeah, for sure.
It's gonna be tough.
You remember Shaquille Leonard
went to South Carolina State.
They had that game.
They played Clemson.
National televised game.
He has 23 tackles.
Yeah.
Hold on.
23 tackles?
Who is this? He playing
Clemson? He at South Carolina State
and he all over the thing? Who is
this? Yeah.
Listen, them small schools,
this is, if anybody
that might be in the chat watching,
the small schools,
when the
big PWI schools,
you know how they do the schedule?
Yeah.
They have an ASBCU.
Small example.
If you go to FAMU right now, and you know y'all got the Miami Hurricanes coming up,
with all the hype, with all the hoopla, them being Florida,
your ass want to be on the motherfucking radar?
Come goddamn draft time?
Show out.
Show out against the Hurricanes this upcoming week.
Stand out on film and watch
what happens.
Watch a childhood dream
come true before you know it.
That's what I did, Ocho.
Perfect opportunity, huh?
You playing Miami.
Come on now. Come to the party.
I looked at the
schedule my senior year and I looked.
We got Elon. The year before,
I think they won the NIA championship.
We got Georgia Southern.
Those are two games.
Georgia Southern good. They were good back then too?
They had won the division 1AA championship like three, four times something good. They were good back then, too? They had won the division one double A championship like three, four times.
God.
Yeah.
They were still doing that same option?
They were like, they were the equivalent of what North Dakota State is.
They were like the North Dakota State.
Okay, okay, okay.
That's what they were.
So I was like, okay, these are two games.
We go to Elon.
They in Burlington, North Carolina.
Sim for 221, two touches.
Yeah. Let me get that. Go to Georgia Southern North Carolina. Sim for 221, two touches. Yeah.
Go to Georgia Southern.
I get nine for 202 and a touchdown.
Okay.
Now,
hey,
now, the bowl game,
East-West Shrine game, Mr. Sharp,
we'd love for you to play in the bowl game.
They invited you?
They had no choice.
You ain't got no choice you got to
come see me all i need to know oh he the best with my sophomore year we played uh central florida
yes sir uh and they got a wide receiver everybody talking about if i'm not mistaken he ended up
getting drafted in the third round and i remember coach davis i was like coach davis like hey you
got a good receiver down there they're gonna going to be some scouts down there.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
There'll be scouts down there?
Like NFL?
Like NFL?
Because we didn't really have a whole lot of scouts.
We didn't have a whole lot of people that, as I got, you know,
people that they were looking at.
I was like, okay, I'm a sophomore.
I'm a true sophomore.
All I know, they wasn't talking about him after the game.
They was talking about that number two Bill who is that
yeah yes
all I need is to
they come to see you
no they not
it can happen that's it
and that's how you have to approach it Ocho
I never thought I never looked at myself as
inferior I don't give a damn where you went to school
that ain't got nothing to do with me
you might have got better
coaching. There are more coaches because
you got a safety coach. You got a
corner coach. You got an outside linebacker,
inside linebacker, a
D-end coach. You got all those coaches.
Running back, hell, we had one coach.
He coached everything. He's an offensive coordinator, running
back coach. But why a receiver
coach? He all that.
But guess what?
When I get
them helping to show the pads. Oh, yeah.
Okay.
We're going to see now.
We're going to see.
Hey,
them games are so important.
I know I hate
hearing the young bull say,
you know, I want to go to the big schools and all that.
Sometimes you're not afforded the same opportunities as everybody else.
Again, I will say it to you, man.
It's not where you go.
It's what you do once you get there.
They will find you.
If you played underneath a motherfucking rock, I'm telling you, the GM and scouts will find you if you put it on film.
They're going to find you.
When you play against the big schools.
Show out. you show out.
It's the only example
I can think of right now because I know the schedule by heart.
Fam, you, boy, if you're rattling
this chat, I'm telling you, when you play against
the Hurricanes after what they just did
to goddamn Florida last week,
and you want to be on the radar?
Come April?
Y'all might beat
us, but I'm going to beat y'all. I'm telling you. Y'all might beat us, but I'm going to beat y'all.
I'm telling you.
Y'all might beat us.
And guess what, Ocho?
Once I got in the start of the lineup, I kept a lot of PWI tight ends on the bench.
Couldn't let them come beat me out for that job.
Yeah.
Damn, that's crazy.
Yeah.
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Ocho Miami Flash.
A smash.
Florida 41-17.
The Swamp was yesterday.
The Hurricane players let the Gator recruits here.
About to walk off the field.
The video caught the Miami players shouting,
you better come to Miami.
We run this state.
And don't go here.
Come to the U towards Florida.
Decorated business list.
Florida's four highest rated commits were in attendance
along with the top rated uncommitted targets miami had the sixth ranked recruiting class last year while florida had the
seventh uh ranked recruiting class billy napier said he was surprised by the bludgeoning miami
doled out to his his post-game press conference the 24 point defeat was for florida's fourth
largest margin of defeat in the 57 game history of the rivalry started back in 2002.
Ocho, do you run the state?
Absolutely.
They absolutely do, especially right now.
Week one, they showed out.
They showed up and showed out.
What can Florida say?
Georgia Tech, what did they do to Florida State?
So actually, right now, who runs the state?
Now, I'm not saying
they're the Hurricanes of the 2000s, you know,
with the Ed Reeds and the Sean
Taylors and the Willis McGahees and the
Frank Gores and Santana Moss. They're
not that.
But they're flipping the page in the right
direction. I'm going to just say that. They're flipping
the page in the right direction. I'm going to just say that. They're flipping the page in the right direction.
It's giving people from Miami, from Dade, from Broward, it's giving us hope.
It's giving us hope.
It's giving us a reason to be happy about our hurricanes once again.
Yeah, man.
It's giving us a reason to talk shit once again.
Well, they're going to do that regardless.
You go to the U, you got to do that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to.
You have to come to the territory. If you don't know how to do it, you're going to do that regardless. You go to the U, you got to do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to. You have to come to the territory.
If you don't know how to do it, you're going to learn while you're there.
Well, you know, that thing got kicked off back in the 80s with Highsmith,
Melvin Bratton.
You know, they had Jay Boogie, Stubbs, you know, Mike.
Yeah.
Coach Nellenberger.
That's when he brought those, you know, brought those hail raisers in there.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden, those guys weren't leaving the state.
They stayed at the U.
Everybody stay home.
Because Snellenberger went down to Liberty city.
He went to Carol.
He went to all those.
He got those guys.
Yeah.
Where everybody was afraid to be like,
I'm going down there.
I know what's down there.
I want to compete and win.
You know where to go.
Yeah.
You start going down to the bell glade,
go down to play a glade central. Yeah. Hey, come on, son. You ain't got, you ain't got to go? Yeah. You start going down to the Belle Glade, go down to Glade Central.
Hey, come on, son.
You ain't got to leave the state.
Come on down here. They right there.
Oh, man. When they kick that
thing off, when they beat Nebraska
in the National Championship game,
they ain't look back.
They ain't look back.
They had that run,
and then the 90s
kind of, you know, a little lean um and then the 90s kind of you know
little lean and then they came back in 2000 thousands boy nasty
nasty they should have kept larry coker but oh well larry oh joe great news the 49ers announced
rookie wide receiver ricky parasol was released from the hospital today.
We also got an update from his mom, Erin,
who said the bullet entered his chest
and exited out his back without hitting any vital organs.
She added that he's extremely lucky.
The San Francisco Police Department confirmed
that Perisal was shot through the chest
in a robbery attempt over Rolex.
He was headed to signing an event, excuse me, at Gary and Market.
There was a struggle for the gun.
Both Ricky and the suspect were shot.
Damn.
That's scary, man.
Man, do you know how scary.
I was reading some of the comments, too.
Some people, yeah. Listen, i was reading some of the comments too you know some people you know yeah like i i don't listen i just i'm reading some of the comments
i'm i'm i'm thinking i would like to know where y'all are from what environment you grew up in
to have a better understanding of how fickle life is yeah you think it's a cartoon you think it's a
video game i'm just i I have a different type of understanding
based on the surroundings and the circumstance I come from.
So I understand.
People that move like that,
I already know what their intentions are.
Because a liar will steal.
Someone that steals will kill.
Ain't no do-overs, huh?
Yeah.
Ain't no do-overs.
Oh, let me take my glasses off. There are no do-overs. This ain't no video game. This ain't Call do-overs on. Yeah. Ain't no do... Oh, let me take my glasses off.
There are no do-overs.
This ain't no video game.
This ain't Call of Duty.
You don't get a second chance
at this shit if you die.
Young boy Ricky is lucky, bro.
Extremely.
He's lucky.
And I see some people,
oh, if I had my stuff on,
I ain't finna give my stuff up to nobody.
What?
I ain't put myself in that situation.
You know, Ocho,
you gotta move a certain way. I'm from Atlanta, but I ain't put myself in that situation. You know, Ocho, you got to move a certain way.
I'm from Atlanta,
but I ain't going downtown iced out.
Why am I going to invite that?
And I get it.
It's my stuff,
and I should be able to wear
what I want to wear,
how I want to wear it.
But nah, it ain't like that.
Because you got those guys out there.
Hey, look here, man.
That dude's 17.
He really threw.
He was willing at 17 to throw it all away.
All the way.
He had nothing to lose.
People that are willing to rob and steal have nothing to lose.
Somebody that has nothing to lose will do away with your life.
Nope.
And not think twice about it.
No.
And you that young, and you carrying that fire that stick on you,
man, you don't care nothing about no life.
You already think your life effed up.
That's why you're doing it.
You don't think that you got anything ahead of you to live for.
You don't care nothing about mama.
You don't care nothing about grandma.
You don't care nothing about nothing.
At all.
So when you're dealing with somebody,
the worst thing you can do
is to have a person who don't believe they have hope.
Because if you don't believe he has hope,
what does he have to lose?
You see, if a person,
and I said this before, Ocho,
if a person is living in hell,
he don't care about going back.
Oof.
So you're dealing with somebody that
got no hope I got no
way out right
if I ain't got no way out I don't give
a damn about taking you out
at all I just did and I'm gonna deal
with the consequences
I'm gonna deal with the consequences
it's sad that people
feel that they don't have a way out
I don't believe you know you're never too old to be in a situation
where that's your moment
and things change around completely.
I mean, you look at some of the guys
that became billionaires and how old they were.
They were in their 30s.
They were in their 40s.
Somehow we feel that if you ain't successful,
if you ain't making $175,000, $200,000
by the age of 22, you a failure in life.
Man, y'all need to stop this.
Somehow society has set such unrealistic expectations on what is success or successful and people about it.
Man, my life, man, what am I doing wrong?
Bro, how old are you?
27?
Man, I'm trying to hit a lick like you.
Bro, at 27?
A lick?
Bro, you probably just got out of school.
You probably been out of school three years.
And so you expect to step right in
and start making millions.
There's situations like that,
but those are anomalies, guys.
And the funny thing, social media, it enhances everything.
It magnifies everything.
It gives the false sense of reality that life is really like that.
That ain't real life.
No, it ain't.
There's 1% that's really living like that bullshit you see on Instagrams.
Yes.
1%.
And those that ain't living it,
that's pretending to do it and doing it the fast way,
it's temporary.
Yeah.
It don't last long.
Mm-mm.
It coming.
Every play ain't going to always hit.
No, it's not.
You going to take some Ls.
Slow motion.
Slow motion is better than no motion at all.
Yeah. You ain't got to be stunting all the time
as long as you continuously moving forward it might be slow but long as you ain't stagnant
you're good keep stacking them yeah keep stacking them even if they might be small when it's small
small still stack up just like big yeah you ain't got to be out there i mean sometimes you got to get how you live
sometimes you got to eat sometimes you got to do what you got to do i understand that
like i come from that i ain't do that but i come from that so i understand right but come on come
on man i just i didn't like some of the comments the people trying to be all tough oh man i'm gonna
wear my shit somebody tried to come rob me and I do this, I do that.
Man, stop, man. Man, them boys
will knock your head off your shoulder. Stop
playing, man. What you talking about?
Talk about what you
going to do.
All right, boy, look here, man. Them jokers hit you
to have you doing the macaroon out there in the street.
Man, bruh.
All over, Ocho.
I don't want nobody
you know what Ocho I've always said this
I could imagine
my grandmother
my mom my sister my brother my kids
now receiving the news that I'm not
coming home
I damn sure don't want to be the reason why
somebody else have to deliver that news to
loved ones
people don't understand I'm the reason why somebody else have to deliver that news to loved ones.
People don't understand. I'm like, bro,
come on, man. I know.
Man, I know my kids
you know,
what?
Yeah. I try not to put myself
in situations. I don't go
everywhere because everything ain't for Shannon to be.
Everybody ain't happy for Shannon.
But I do give what I'm
out and I'm not in an environment
that I'm familiar with. I show everybody
a level of respect. Because if you
don't, they'll come get you.
Because the number one thing
in the streets is respect.
That's the number one currency. You think it's
money. No, it's respect. They'll chop
your head off if you disrespect. And don't think nothing about it at all because i see hey i've seen them
hey they come in the barbershop or whatever hey bro let me holler at you yeah it don't matter
they're not fit to work this shop up with me get your ass out there. Broad daylight, man. Broad daylight.
I've seen too many examples over the years. Too many examples.
Man, look here.
Too many.
I wish Pasha
passed away. He has to have a
car wash on 37th and 37th and
Booth.
Dude Slim.
A little young kid
came up there. They got to tussling.
He beat the little boy up
probably about 12, 13.
He came back.
He came right back with his mom.
He said, Mom, there you go.
Mom handed him that tool.
Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
His mom gave him the tool. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. If mom gave me
the tool.
The little boy? You see how I got
a body that don't joke? You see what I did?
Yes, sir. Yeah.
Man, hey,
everybody
don't have the guidance
that you and I had.
I had a praying grandmother.
My grandmother guided us,
tried to teach us right from wrong.
No.
Hey,
it was always a son.
It's,
you know,
Hey,
be respectful.
Yes,
sir.
No,
sir.
It's okay.
You're wrong.
You're wrong.
Except accountability.
Right.
But everybody liked that.
Cause you got some parents out
there got some some some dads and some hey yeah they telling the kid hey you going man stop yeah
it ain't like it wasn't when we grew when i was growing up oh we fall we knuckle up yeah we fall
hey you a p i see you oh in between fourth and fifth period i get mine i'm gonna get my lick back
right it ain't like that no more ocho hey i told you um back then back then obviously during during oh, in between fourth and fifth period, I'm going to get my lick back. Right.
It ain't like that no more, Ocho.
I told you, back then,
obviously, during your time and during my time,
it coincides a little bit
when it comes to the other side of the street,
outside of the game of football,
there was still structure and discipline.
Yes, for sure.
There was still structure and discipline
even on that side of the ball.
Obviously, even though we didn't we didn't play that side. But still.
There was a reason behind something happening. There was a reason behind it.
You ain't just doing it all willy nilly just to say, oh, you know what? I'm hungry.
I ain't got no money. I'm going to go take this nigga shit.
Yeah. Oh, Joe. No. When we were growing up,
you would never talk back.
You didn't talk back to someone's mom
or grandma. You was never
disrespectful. Absolutely not.
I couldn't even imagine
talking
disrespectful to someone
even if they just five,
ten years older than me, let alone
somebody my grandma age, somebody my mom's age.
I wouldn't be in here.
Man, granted, Mary and Barney Porter would beat the bricks off us.
Them people didn't play that, but you would respect,
there's a certain level of respect.
You could go to people's houses and get a meal.
My grandma didn't play that either.
You ain't going to nobody's house. Hey, my grandma didn't play that either. You ain't going to nobody.
Hey,
my grandma didn't play that.
Right.
You want some,
son?
No,
man,
we just ate hungry to the mug.
I ain't lying.
Me and my brother be hungry to the mug.
You bet.
I say,
yeah,
man.
Oh,
Joe,
I ain't going to lie.
Oh, Joe, I'd be so hungry every time i swallow my stomach say thank you but hey but you ain't you ain't going to people house to eat right get wait till you
get back home hey uh-huh you get some bread hey you maybe have mayonnaise sandwich or ketchup
sandwich something like that you got no meat hold You got no meaning. You did syrup sandwiches before?
Yeah, of course.
You folded up and dipped it in the syrup?
Yeah.
Ketchup sandwiches,
mayonnaise sandwiches, syrup sandwiches.
Yes.
Okay, okay. I'm making sure we're on the same page.
Okay, okay.
But there was a level of respect
that kids
have for adults
and I don't know what happened
and I think the generation you started
having parents started getting
younger and younger
and the kids were
so close in age
and kids started getting more and more
disrespectful and parents
didn't correct them
I'm like it's different
it's different your generation my generation was the definition of it takes a village and that
village did exactly what they were supposed to do now now aren't the generation we're in now
you can't correct you can't correct nobody's kid it's always somebody else's fault. If your kid, let me ask you a question, Ocho.
If your kid disrespectful at home and you the parent or you the grandparent,
what the hell you think going to happen when he and she is not around you?
Yeah, in public.
If they disrespectful to you, you think they going to go to them people's school and be respectful?
You think they going to be respectful on somebody's job?
Absolutely not.
But they got a place for you.
I guarantee. They got a
place.
They'll make you go
and come just like they want you to.
What I can't understand, you
won't work at McDonald's, but you get out there
to feel on them farms.
When they let your ass out
at 730 in the morning,
and they work your ass from sunup to sundown.
Now you would do that for a dollar 52 dollars a day.
You got no choice.
Making wallets,
making license plates.
You would do that with no freedom,
but give you free.
Let somebody mention,
Hey man,
go get this fast food job or go work at this car.
Man,
man,
please.
I wish I might work for $10 an hour,
but you'll work for $2 an hour behind bars.
Make it make sense, Socho.
Hey, listen. Sometimes you'll take
the chance. You'll take
the chance living a fast life
and see what you can do and see what you can
get away with as opposed to getting it
the honest way.
Ain't a whole lot of people say, yeah, man,
wrote a book, How I Retired a Criminal.
Normally they write the book after they get out of jail yeah after it's somewhere that indeed a either either a nick or 30 yeah sometimes you don't even get to write the book at all
yeah sometimes sometimes somebody telling the story about you and you don't even know nothing
about they ain't all they having a good old. They having fried chicken and fish and mac and cheese and dressing and green.
And you don't even know nothing about it.
They don't let the doves go.
Yeah.
But I just, I wish we could get back to where it once was,
where we all respected our elders.
It was, I mean, you won't have good luck.
Yeah, that used to be a thing.
Yo, I used to tell you, man, you don't have good luck talking back to old people now.
Yeah.
Nah, you catch the right old person.
You won't have good luck because they'll put something on you too.
Mm-hmm.
Catch the right one.
That's a good one.
Mm-hmm.
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Marquise Brown
one of the Chiefs
biggest offseason edition
will not play Thursday night
season opener
against the Ravens
Coach Andy Reid said
Hollywood won't be back
this week
but we'll see how it goes
but the kid is amazing
I mean
he's progressing
and has been incredible
but I wouldn't predict him being there this week.
Brown just located his shoulder against the chief.
First offensive player,
the preseason,
the chiefs will still have Xavier worth it.
Their first round pick where she wife rice,
the leading receiver,
and they resigned Juju Smith's Huster.
He was there.
I remember he won the Superbowl.
Oh,
Joe,
then he got that big contract from the chief,
but seemingly couldn't find
couldn't stay healthy couldn't find his niche there
Ocho who you like
in this game
I mean listen
Chiefs obviously
I'm kind of sad
goddamn Hollywood Brown won't be able to play
I think he has a great one AC Sprain
they say separate his shoulder
but if you watch the play,
you know, and I hate when people dive on you,
when they tackle you and they drive you into the ground.
Yeah, I hate it. He probably
got a grade one, grade two AC
sprain, so I'm sure he'll be back next week.
But, I mean, Chiefs.
Chiefs. I'm curious.
I'm curious to see what they're going to look like
offensively. I'm curious to see
how things open up for Travis Kelsey,
because you had that speed and worthy.
And you know,
it's going to be,
you know,
it's going to be funny,
even though he's the fastest recorded combine draft runner,
defensive coordinators are going to say,
and be very egotistical.
Well,
you're going to have to show me you still a rookie.
You have to prove yourself.
You're going to have to,
you're going to have to show me that we have to adjust our defense because of your speed matter of fact you know what we got corners
we feel and get up there and press you you're gonna have to show us here you could be goddamn
man to man up front you're gonna have to show me so i'm curious to see what that office is
going to look like obviously they still they still have Rasheed Rice.
Some other pieces.
Travis Kelsey is going to do what Travis Kelsey does.
So I'm curious to see what they look like this year.
And I think they're going to do what they need to do to win.
And they still got that boy back there.
Oh, yeah.
One five.
I didn't even have to mention him.
Because you already know he's going to do what he do. Do what he. One five. I ain't even have to mention him because... Because you already know
he's going to do what he do.
Do what he do every time.
Yeah.
The moment is never too big
for 15, boy.
Yeah.
They're probably going to try
to run the football.
They got Derek DeRavens
have Derek Henry now.
Play action should be...
We're going to see
because the Chiefs defense
last year,
that kind of... that's really what
won them. Hey, Spags was on
fire, boy. And I think the
personnel, the personnel that
Spags had allowed him to do some of the
things he did. He did. Losing
LeJarius Sneed.
Can McDuffie fill in the same role
and do the same things that Sneed does?
He did. To allow
Spags to be as aggressive as he wants to.
McDuffie was the number one.
McDuffie was first team all pro.
Yeah.
But he, listen.
But see, what it was, though, is that you had two of them.
Right.
So now we can, because you know Spags like to heat you up.
Yeah.
I can heat you up because I got two guys that I believe that can hold their own.
Yeah.
Now, are you going to be...
A lot of times,
when you got CJ
Kalofidis,
they got some pressure.
Remember one of their past rushes?
He tore his ACL against the Ravens
in the championship game. He didn't play in the Super Bowl.
Oh, number 91.
I forgot his name.
I forgot his name.
It's going to be interesting to see if he's back
they bring some pieces back
but defensively it's going to be
interesting to see I'm anxious to see how the
Ravens how they use
Derrick Henry play action off of it
you know Zay Flowers
take that next step
Bateman
you got Angelo you got Likely of it, you know, Zay Flowers, take that next step. Bateman. Bateman, yeah.
Andrew, you got Likely.
I wonder how they're going to do that. I just thought about that.
They got Likely. Likely had a hell of a season
last year when Mark Andrews
went down. I mean, obviously, Andrews
is that dude. I just can't
see them having Likely on the bench like that.
Nah, you run a lot of double tight ends.
Hey, you run two tight ends? Two wide receivers in the bench like that. Nah, you run a lot of double tight ends. You run two tight ends,
two wide receivers in the back.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, let's just
go play bully ball. Yeah.
But again,
it's still a pass-happy
league. It's still a pass-happy league.
What happened to the Ravens go down 14?
What happened to they go down 14?
You can't sit back there and say, oh, we're going to run the ball
and have 14, 15 play drives.
Right.
And you got to put that motherfucking air.
Right.
But that's what you try to do.
I don't want to see that.
I don't want to see that happen.
I don't want to see them week one
go into a hole
trying to establish the run.
That's what they try.
That's what you try to do to the Ravens.
You try to put them behind the eight ball.
Yeah.
Try to take Lamar legs out of it and not let
him dictate you want to dictate.
It's a lot easier said than done.
Yeah, it is.
But he's proven he's gotten incrementally
better year after year of throwing
the football. So it's
a lot more difficult than it was
in the beginning, Ocho.
But still,
you still
are,
you're more fearful.
I guarantee you
as any defensive coordinator,
they're still more fearful
of his legs than his arms.
Oh yeah,
most definitely.
But I like how he's evolved
over the years.
Obviously,
we always talk about,
oh, he's a runner,
he's a runner,
he's a runner,
he's a runner,
he's a runner.
This, yes,
he's a runner.
But the past two years,
especially last year, when he had chances to run, of run he'll sit there and pat it he'll sit in the pocket and
be patient he'll want to throw before he runs as opposed to running when read number one's not
there i didn't see i didn't seen two or three times i've seen goddamn lamar jackson get back
there get the ball and go through his progression.
One, two, three.
Okay, that ain't open.
Let me go back to one.
Okay, one's still in there.
Okay, now I'm going to run.
As opposed to I'm locking in on one person, you know, year one or year two. If that one person ain't there and I feel pressure, man, peace sign.
I'm getting up out of here.
Yeah, he's definitely evolved.
He's definitely gotten better.
So it's's gonna be interesting
this is what they need they got a big a big bat uh keaton mitchell he tore that he was playing
really well yeah hey that boy fast as hell you know uh his brother played i mean his dad played
with me on cincinnati yeah mitch he played with me he was with me and uh he ran that he ran that
uh that block field goal back in the divisional round against the Titans. Anthony.
Anthony.
The athletic recently released a poll agent,
recently polled agents, Ocho.
Okay.
The athletic recently polled agents on the best run franchises
and the most unstable franchises.
The best run franchises, we're going to do the top five.
Eagles got five votes, along with the 49ers.
The Chiefs got four votes.
The Packers got three votes.
Vikings, Steelers, Ravens, Dolphins each got two.
Okay.
When they said the anonymous agent praised the 49ers,
you have to fit within their culture.
They allow players and employees to be themselves,
and they win even while getting staff poached by every team every year.
The way they treat people, they don't skimp on expenses.
Highly professional.
Eagles, every year, free agents wants to go there.
They reward their players.
GM, Harry Roseman, nailed the draft.
What an organized group with football in front of business every year. They're at the top of their players. GM Harry Roseman nailed the draft. What an organized group with football in front of business every year.
They're at the top of their game.
Most unstable.
Okay, let's do.
Do you agree with that list, Ocho?
The stable list?
Yes.
Well, absolutely.
Absolutely.
And based on the stable list outside the Vikings, you look at the teams,
either teams that are winning consistently.
Obviously, Miami, I'm looking at Miami. Miami is revamped.
Remind me, Miami is revamped. You know, Mike McDaniels, Tua's in there.
The supporting cast that they do have, they've been winning as of late.
Chiefs, Green Bay, obviously Eagles. How is the fucking, I don't know what, I don't know what they doing over there. Obviously the 49ers
they have a tradition of winning
Steelers, tradition of winning
so this is kind of
self-explanatory when you
look at it and you
can see why.
Now we go to
the most unstable franchises
number one
Panthers, number two, Raiders.
And tied, Jets, Jags, Cowboys, and Cardinals
with three votes each.
Damn, my Broncos made the list.
That ain't good.
And the Commanders got one vote.
But for the Cowboys to be on a list
with the Jets, Jags, and Cardinals,
that ain't good. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Cowboys to be on a list with the Jets, Jags, and Cardinals. That ain't good.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, the Cowboys,
I like what it says there, Cowboys.
I don't think they want to win above all.
So that's on Jerry Jones.
Because winning starts all the way from the top.
Look at all the other teams.
The Hunts.
God damn it.
Who that? You talking about family-run businesses yeah yeah
the steelers the roonies the roonies they've been at it for since 1933 listen it starts from the top
yeah it starts from the top the cowboys i don't think jerry wants to win above all he wants to turn make profits and headlines
i think the game has passed him by wherever that quote came from speaks volumes wherever that quote
came from it needs to be in jerry's world on the goddamn big screen so he can see it he needs to
see it because that's exactly how he runs a business which is why he's on the list of the
most one of the most unstable franchises despite the success that they have in the regular season.
And I feel bad for the coaches. I feel bad for the staff. I feel bad for everyone else that's
walking on eggshells that can't tell Jerry, you need to take a back seat. You need to sit down.
You need to stop talking. You need to get from in front of the camera, allow your players to play,
allow your coaches to coach.
Let Mike McCarthy do what he wants to do.
Take the leash off him.
Take the reins off of him.
If I did that, Ocho, he going to get the credit.
Didn't I tell you I want the credit?
I told you, Ocho.
You heard me in the press conference say I want the credit.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
I mean, other teams that
are on this list, the Broncos haven't been good since
Manny left. The Jets, they've
been in disarray since goddamn Joe
Naiman. The Cardinals,
hell, the Cardinals haven't been good since goddamn
Kurt Warnell.
The Raiders, ah.
Okay, this is what they said about the
Panthers, though, Joe. Organizational
stability comes from the owner and the front office.
Need more time than David Tepper, who's the owner, gives.
A strong quarterback can keep a team viable regardless of the front office,
but what's the plan?
The Raiders.
The owner, Mark Davis, frequently makes significant changes.
He put Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziegler in charge
and fired them after two seasons.
Now the Raiders have an inexperienced coach,
Antonio Pierce, a re-chaired general manager,
and Tom Telesco.
Organization stocks at the top,
and Davis doesn't provide stability.
Cowboys, I don't think they want to win above all.
Jerry wants to turn profits and make headlines.
I think the game has passed him by.
It has.
It has. We already know owner's bottom line is always making
a dollar that's the business that we're in it's it's the the business of making money we know that
but you don't have to be front and center about it you don't have to just throw it in our face
that's what it's all about you know man put your put your snake in cowboy put your snake your snake skin cowboy boots on
your snake skin belt get your cowboy hat take a back seat take a back seat no i guarantee you i
guarantee you the year jerry says you know what i'm gonna try something different for a change
i'm gonna try something different for a change i'm gonna sit back i'm gonna relax i'm gonna let
the team run itself.
I'm going to let the product and the star on the helmet.
I'm going to let it sell itself.
You know, remember Blue Magic?
Remember you saw American Gangster?
Remember Blue Magic?
Yeah.
Denzel ain't have to do nothing to Blue Magic.
Blue Magic sold itself.
That's the Cowboys.
I don't think Jerry understand that.
Jerry don't understand that.
You don't have to do nothing, man.
There's a reason you're worth $9 billion.
I'm not sure how much, I'm not
sure how many more billions
than the rest of the teams.
He ain't got to do nothing, man.
He's the most,
his franchise, he owns
the most valuable franchise
in pro sports.
More than the Yankees,
more than PSG,
more than Real Madrid,
more than FC Barcelona.
You name a sports franchise
and the Cowboys are worth
more than them. What does that tell you?
What does that tell you?
But nah, Ocho?
Listen, you don't need to be
in front and center like pablo i do that was a problem somebody's gonna get the credit nah nah
and did i tell y'all what the credit that's that how many ways i gotta tell you
listen sometimes we get in the way of ourselves doing things we don't need to do
pablo escobar had no no reason to run for political office.
Jerry Jones has no reason
to be in front of the goddamn camera
all the damn time.
You ain't played one snap,
you ain't played one down.
No disrespect.
And that was a horrible analogy.
But I'm sure Chad understand
where I'm coming from.
About Jerry?
Yeah, I mean,
it is a horrible analogy.
But the thing is though,
I couldn't think of nothing else to say.
But here's the thing.
What, Jerry?
There's a reason why, if you look at him, he has success with Jimmy.
Jimmy got the credit.
What about me?
I own the team.
Even though Jimmy is the coach, he's coaching it.
He can't do anything without me, so I want some of the credit.
Where's the money going?
Jimmy, Jimmy.
Where's the money going?
Because remember.
Who cares?
Who's getting the money?
When he bought the team, what was the first thing that he did, Ocho?
The first thing he did when he bought the team.
He fired so-and-so?
He fired Tom Landry.
Yeah.
The mythical.
He ain't going to be bigger than Tom.
So even if I bring a new coach in, I'm going to be bigger than him
because now Jimmy start winning.
Uh-oh.
How about them Cowboys?
They ain't got no camera on him.
They got to get the camera on Jimmy.
They got the guys messing up Jimmy's hair.
Jimmy's talking.
You think Jared Jones going to address the team before they hit the field?
Yeah.
You think he going to talk to the team before Jimmy?
Jimmy ain't having that.
Jimmy old school.
Ourself damn sure ain't having it.
So now, you're like, you know what?
Let me go get these other coaches where I can do whatever I want.
I can
emasculate them.
I can cut the legs out.
Because if I got a problem,
players got a problem with a coach,
guess what?
He go talk to Jay.
Right.
Well,
once that happens,
it's over.
Because once a child,
what do kids do?
Once they know they can circumvent one parent,
once I know I can circumvent my coach,
now I can play kids or play one parent against the other one.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, Joe, Mike Sandow.
Go ahead.
What you want to say?
No, I said, damn. Because I used to do that with my grandma and my granddaddy.
Nah.
Whenever they said no.
Oh, listen, grandma say no, I'm going straight to my granddaddy.
He going to say yeah.
Because you know what's going to happen?
You're going to ask Granny,
Barney, I told them boys, no.
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Why you had to tell?
Why you let you?
Oh, them some good days, man.
No, there wasn't no good days.
You got to tell her bad.
You mean to tell me your granny done told you no?
And y'all come back?
You coming to me?
You trying to get me in trouble.
I don't even want to go now.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
But see, they pushed me up because I was the youngest.
So he wasn't going to be as harsh.
Hey, Shanna, go ask Papa to take us to town.
Go ask Papa to take us to the stone.
Go ask Papa to do this.
Papa, can we go to town?
That's what we called it because we lived in the country.
We didn't live in the heart of the country.
We lived in...
Damn, every time I turn...
You got some money?
Tell him, yeah.
Yeah? Tell him yeah. Yeah.
Man, that push be able to do everything, Ocho.
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