Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Wemby DOMINATES the Rockets + Jokic says Wemby will TAKE OVER the NBA + Lakers BEAT the Knicks without Bron + Jayson Tatum LOOKS GREAT vs Cavs + Pistons SELL vs Heat

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the San Antonio Spurs beat the Houston Rockets 145-120, the Los Angeles Lakers beat the New York Knicks 110-97, and th...e Celtics beat the Cavs 109-98 and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 05:51 - Spurs beat Rockets38:18 - Lakers beat Knicks57:19 - Celtics beat Cavs1:03:44 - Heat beat Pistons (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:56 Joe, this was a beat down from the beginning. I mean, this was a close game, it was back and forth. And then in the third quarter, the spurs, the spurs just exploded and just, just went haywire. Wimby was wimby, but when you get Champany, was knocking down the threes like he was knocking them down. Deeram Fox was sensational up and down the court. And Stefan Castle, you know, we keep talking about guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:17 yeah, offensively. But he's a damn good two-way player. I've watched him over the last like five or six games. He's taking the toughest assignment on the opposing end and still giving you what he's giving you offensively. Joe, when you watch the San Antonio Spurs, how far do you think they can go when they're playing like this? Can they really come out of the West?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Can they win an NBA championship? Yeah, look, Uncle Ocho, what they've shown you is that those three times that they beat O'KC, it was not a fluke, fellas. It was not a fluke, ladies and gentlemen. This team is deep. They have so many guys that can beat you. But you know what was glaring about this? It was almost as if the Rockets was like two to three steps slower than the Spurs.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It's like the pace that the Spurs was playing at, OK, Ocho. It's like the Rockets couldn't keep up. Look, midway through the third court, I seen KD what we talk about. When they complain to the rest, we know we got them. Yep. I seen Katie over there talking to the rest, his tongue hanging out of the mouth. They're the random boys in the ground, man. Hey, they got a lot,
Starting point is 00:09:21 Spurs got a lot of guys who they can throw at you who don't mind playing defense and can off the bounce and create opportunities for themselves or others. It's fun to watch, man. And not even to mention Wemby. Oh, my God. I mean, yeah, they're destined.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Okay, Ocho, they can win it all. Yes, yes. They got 57 bench points. You get 57 bench points, and your starters play like they play, endeavor. of Buccell, he didn't have one of his better games. He only had five points.
Starting point is 00:09:51 He was 0 of six from the floor or three from the three point line. Oh, Joe, you watch San Antonio. Look, Wimby, you can talk about Wimby, but there's so much more than a Wimby. They look good, I mean, to piggyback off what Joe said, obviously me watching the game tonight and Joe saying it looked like the Rocks were two steps behind. It looked just like that. Even though my understanding isn't great as his, I mean, with me not having the knowledge that I do of the game.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I mean, it looked like that to me. It seemed like they were lethargic. I'm not sure what was wrong. Or the fact that the spurs were just two steps ahead of everything that they tried to do, whether it was in transition, whether it was offensively, whether it was defensively. They played extremely well. I'm not sure any team has the answer for Wemby. I'm not sure what you can do to stop Wemby because he's good from anywhere on the floor,
Starting point is 00:10:37 anywhere on the court. He can put the ball on the floor. Hey, mid-range, I mean, in the goddamn pain, Joe, I'm not sure what they can do. And like Joe did say what they've done to OKC, as great as OKC is as a team, even with the depth they have on the bench, the spurs match up really well with them. And I got a question for you and you and on, Joe, with the way the Spurs are playing, are they the favorite to win the championship this year? Or is everyone still leaning towards OKC to do so in a seven games, I mean, in a seven game series regards to who they have to play? Or the sport is the favorite.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Well, it's, it's, when you see them complete, when you see a complete game, the way they play tonight, today, Ocho, it makes you know, it makes you put them ahead of a lot of teams. But for me, man, it's, it's the physicality that they play with on the perimeter, like just being in KD back pocket the whole game, making it tough for them to get to his spots, push and shoving the whole game, picking up four courts, all that plays into their victories. Not only do that, not only that, but the guys. that they have, man, Fox, Castle, Harper, these guys go off the dribble so easily, bro, and get to the basket. If you can't guard, man, you're in trouble. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You ain't going to be to keep them boys in front of you. I think the thing, Joe, when I watch them, you're going to have to have somebody score and they're going to have to keep Wembe away from the basket. Because if you let him camp out from the basket, you're not going to get any layups. He's going to alter all your shots. And you see guys, they come in and they're very hesitant.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Like, damn, I got to shoot this ball like 12 feet in the air in order for me to have a chance to get it up. Yeah. And he'll let you think you got him beat. He just spins a ride and whop, throw it out of the battle. So the thing is that OKC does have a guy that can play on the perimeter, which is Chet, where you can take him away from the basket.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. But if you're big cannot draw him outside of the paint, you're going to have hell beating him. Oh, yeah. Like you said, now they do have multiple guys. The thing that I love most about them is that when their starters go to the bench, that shock troop come in and they give you the same. same type of pace. They give me the same type of tempo. Now, obviously, Cornette is not as good as
Starting point is 00:12:46 Wimby, but when you come in with Harper and you come in with Johnson, man. And Brian, I like Brian too. Yes. Yes. He, he, high energy. He can guard. Everybody out on the floor, he can guard. They play the right way. It's fun to watch them play, bro, because they can beat you in so many ways. But the attack that they have from them guards, man, the way they can get by their man so easily, Ocho. Bro, you ain't going to want to see these. Hey, Uncle Joe, honestly,
Starting point is 00:13:15 I mean, based on what we'll be seen from the spur so far this season, I think, obviously, if they're healthy, if they remain healthy, especially going into the postseason, I think,
Starting point is 00:13:25 I think they got it. They're going to raise that, they're going to raid that trophy now. You're going to put some money on them? No, I ain't going to do that, Joe. I don't want to put money on nothing when I'm not control of the outcome, Joe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:37 But I'm just saying if you had the bet, you would do the same, though, right? Oh, it would be, if, who, boy, they're up there, Ocho. I'm talking about, man, it's hard to go against them. I'll tell you that. It's going to be a definitely going to be a matchup. I tell you what, I mean, Doug is not, is not very pleased with the way they play defense. They shot 58% from the floor.
Starting point is 00:13:57 They shot 52% from the three. You're not beating anybody. I don't give it down if San Antonio. I don't care if it's, I don't care if it's, I don't care if it's, it's a, Sacramento. I don't care who it is. You let a team shoot down there's 60% from the floor. Over 50% from the three, you're going to lose by 20 points.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Hey, uh, Singoon, he can't guard nobody. No, no, no, no, no, he's an offensive guy. Hey, he's an offensive guy. They put, they put the game so fast, they put them in them picking rows, and they're getting the isolation. They just penetrate, kicking a getting by and getting less. But he's struggling, he's struggling playing at this pace. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:35 He's struggling playing at this pace because Wimby is just, because he had that floating around a three-point line, block his shot. He's just too much. Hey, A-A-Onga-Joe. And Wimby blocks a shot. He'll 100 meters. He's a great job. Hey, Joe, when you get into a situation like that,
Starting point is 00:14:50 where obviously Sengoon is a liability on defense, why not just go small? You can't. He's one of your, he's an all-star. Damn, who are you going to put in there? That's like, you play through him. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of the offenses ran through him.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I mean, hold on. He's a liability on defense. Now, we, we can't still, but he gives you so much offensively. If you take, let's see, who are you going to put in there defensively? You're not going to put Jeff Green, Phenny Smith is too small, Isaiah Crawford, Clint Capella, but he gives you nothing offensively. Holiday Okogie, Rees Shepard is an offensive guy. So they have a bunch of offensive guys.
Starting point is 00:15:25 The problem is that Shungoon is used to getting the ball all the time. What the addition, KD, KD got to get some touches. Joe, you remember last year, Shungoon was an all-star. Yeah, he was an all-star. But you got to share some of those touches. Yeah, I just don't, I think that's a tough cover for him, Guard and Wimby. Like, that's a tough cover for Singoom, man. That's a tough cover for him, Ock.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Wimby's a tough cover for everybody. But if you think about it, look, if they play, Chad is going to be a tough cover for him because Chad can play on the boundary. Obviously, Joker is a tough cover for everybody. There's no answer. So we don't, we exclude Joker. Joker, don't even talk about him because ain't nobody doing anything with him.
Starting point is 00:16:13 The problem that you have when you're, I made Joker pried himself on being a defensive team. If you look at him with the Celtics, hey, we're going to shut, yeah, we're going to shoot threes, but we're going to play outstanding defense. They don't have guys to play the type of defense that he wants to play. He got a couple.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's really that simple. Yeah. They don't. Yeah. All things being equal, KD is phenomenal offensive. But he's not a defensive guy. Shingoon is not a defensive guy. Now, I like Jabari Smith,
Starting point is 00:16:43 but really the only guy they got that's on the defensive end that's trying to hold it down is Thompson and the Easton. Yeah. And when you got those young guys, you look at that, what's the average age of San Antonio? 23, 24, maybe 25?
Starting point is 00:16:54 Young. They're getting up and down. Man, they got some hoopers, bro. They got some straight hoopas. And they go every five to six minutes, they're coming in with a new set. Yeah. Well, good look, keep it up with that.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Because look, they're top heavy. And most teams are. So don't think I'm saying. But when you look at the most of their points, when you get 57 points from your bench and you getting consistent play night in and night out, Dylan Harper was what, Western Conference rookie of the year? And you got Kelton Johnson coming off your bench. Kelton Johnson can stop for a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Dylan Harper probably should be in the starting lineup. But they say, you know what? We need that energy. We need those points coming off the bench because we know we're going to get from Bacel and we know what we're going to get from Steffin Castle. So now you getting, you get it, Joe, you can take on a given night, you get him somewhere between 30 and 40 points a night from two guys off the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And you know what it seems as though nobody has a problem with it on their team, neither. You know, they all vouch for one another. They play hard. They play the right way. You don't see nobody out there forcing none. And the game just looks easy, man. It looks easy to them. And defensively, they all sit down in the chair.
Starting point is 00:18:03 when you got Wimby behind you. Yeah. It ain't, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I'm with you. Even if you play the chair of game, don't worry about it. If somebody gets your chair,
Starting point is 00:18:12 don't worry about it. Get back there to Wimby. Hello. Hello. Hello. But you know what, man. Hey, look, Castle is showing me a lot, though. Okay, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yes. Hey, listen, I'm talking about like, oh, like, ooh, he's going to be a problem. I mean, when we talk about all defensive players now, I look, Jail him, Jailin Brown has played extremely well. We know what Kawhiwai is not what he wants. was the injury that's taking his toe. But when we look at this kid here, he's taking the toughest office of assignment
Starting point is 00:18:40 every single night, and you ask him to still give you those 15 to 20 points that he gives you. Yeah. So, hey. Hey, man. You're saying. Yeah, young superstar in the maker.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Obviously, we know he won a rookie of the year, but he's shown me, man, that he's ready to take that next step, Uncle Ocho. Hey, the Spur is scary, bro. They're scary, man. Oh, man. Yeah, hey, anybody want to see them boys. They don't, but I think the thing is that they took a page out of OKC.
Starting point is 00:19:12 You see how well, OKC, you can tell they genuinely like each other. They genuinely like being around each other. It's not like, okay, we get to a city and we scatter like mice when the lights come on. They like, hey, bro, what you doing? Hey, let's go grab a bite. They talk about how they spend time with one another, how they're in the group chat communicating with one another. And I can see very similar what the spurs are doing.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's how you look, most teams that win are close. Now, there are always going to be a situation where sometimes you get outliers where, hey, we win and we don't really care about each other. But I think OKC and the way they play, I think everybody's trying to find that formula because your best player holds this thing together. And Wimby is clearly their best player. But man, they're young and they still got draft picks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And the thing is that most of these guys, Champany and Wimby, Yama, yeah, you made the trade for Deer & Fox. Deer & Fox said, like, I'm tired of sack, blah, blah, blah, and I want to go elsewhere. And he lands here with Wimby. He probably the oldest on the team. Yes. So you got all these.
Starting point is 00:20:18 He can put you in the pick and roll. Yeah. He can get down. That joke. Hey, quick as a cat on a marble tape. Man. Get down heel and get to the rim. Hey, he can snatch you and back up behind the three point line.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He got a crazy head. you think he's about to hit a pop, he's to the rim on you, and now you got Wimby, and you got Castle, you got Bucet. They're loaded. Hey, what's good, man.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They're really good. The boys made a statement today. Hold on, they've been making a statement, though, Joe. They've been making – Yeah, but I'm just saying against one of the top teams like Houston in the Western Conference, they just make –
Starting point is 00:20:50 They're the third seed Houston are. Yeah, shit. They let them know like – And they made mince meat out of them. Yeah, it's levels to this. They made mince meat out of them. They did. They did.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They made mince meat meat meat meat meat. out of them. And like I said, it's going to be very interesting. I want to see it. Hopefully everybody is, is healthy and nobody has any, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:11 significant injuries. I, I, you know. You want to see them in O KC? You want to see them in the Western Conference final? I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Boy, it's going to go down. Joe, who you got? Hypothetically speaking, if those, if those two men, of seven, listen, beating somebody one game is one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But a seven game series, who you lean it toward, Well, they've already beat them three out of four this year. Yeah, they didn't beat them three out of four this year. Hold on. That's regular season. Now, you know, Joe, the playoffs is a different ball game. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Hey, I've been in that situation. I've been in that situation.
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Starting point is 00:24:34 week. I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Listen. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. What do you going to say? I was going to say, I want to see
Starting point is 00:24:52 Castle and Shay. Yeah. Because that's a matcher. Yeah. Yeah. Because Castle A, Castle can pick it up. Now, they're going to run their ass off a bunch of pigs. They're going to try keep him in the peak they're going to try to keep him off screen the pit dives they're going to try to keep keep keep keep bumping but he a hound i'm here a hound man i know they were on the series the season series of spurs but i'm probably giving me a little edge to okay c i probably give
Starting point is 00:25:19 a little bit done that probably give a little edge to okay c right now oh cho okay they might be a year away because remember okay c was in a very similar situation the year before and they ended up getting upset by the mavericks yeah So I can see a very similar situation where, hey, you think, man, they're right there and all of a sudden they get upset. But they're coming. If you think you about to have your way with San Antonio, they're coming. We're only going to get better.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't know if y'all know this, but when be going to get better. Hey, he's like a cheek code out there, bro. It don't even look bad. How do you take the first shot you pulling up for 27? At the top of you pulling from 27. Hey, Joe, you played the game, Joe. You've been around for a very long time. Someone like Wimby.
Starting point is 00:26:06 There's no answer for Jokic. I mean, Yoker, you can slow him down. You can only hope to contain him. When it comes to Wembe, is there any way you can stop him? Anything you can do defensively, anything you can do tactically, you're slowing him down. Or do you just have to say, you know what, he's going to always get his.
Starting point is 00:26:20 We need to worry about the other four on the court. Nah, you're going to have to wear him down, pick him, catch him early, body and body him in the whole way. And then you've got a hope for the third and fourth quarter in the second half of the game. you're able to wear him down to where he's not as effective. But Ocho, I mean, man, he can do a little bit of everything out there. I mean, I like how he took his time and, you know, he started to playmaking,
Starting point is 00:26:44 just making the right passes and guys getting wide open three. Next thing you know, they're up 30 points, bro. Yeah. It's like, I mean... The thing with Wambi, Joe, you like you said, you got to have somebody that can body him. You got to wear him down. Yeah. Because right now he's still in his young man, kid,
Starting point is 00:27:01 body. Yeah. He doesn't have his body body. So you got to wear him now. You got to have somebody that can make him work on the other end. And you got to go body with him. Hopefully you can get him in foul trouble. If you don't get him in foul trouble and he gets to play his normal
Starting point is 00:27:18 a lot of a minutes, which is about 30, play about somewhere like 30, maybe 33, 34 minutes. If you lay him play his normal allotment of minutes, that means he's not in file trouble and he's going to be down there, he's going to be there down the stretch. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's going to make it very difficult because all layups,
Starting point is 00:27:38 I'm sending, return to send her. Hello. Hello. Yeah, you. Yeah. I'm going to eat. I don't like what you say,
Starting point is 00:27:45 so I'm going to send it back in 30 days. Yeah, man, they're going to be a tough matchup for anybody, though, in the postseason, fellas. I don't care who they play. Houston allowed the season most points, 56 in the paint. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:28:00 They allowed 56 points in the paint guys, and they shot 43s. They made 21 or 40 from the three-point line. So you get up 43s, and you still get 56 in the, a damn near 60 in the paint. Those dudes was, listen, they guards break you down so easy, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They in the paint, they sell the whole time, shoot, layups, floaters. It's too much. You take that away. Now you got pins. Chad Penning and Vassah out there shooting the lights out, shooting a cup off the ball. It's like you gotta pick, you gotta pick your poison.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Keldon Johnson come in and just pulling. Wop, wop, wop. Well, they look good, man. Hey. I don't know why, but hell, every time Keldon Johnson and Champany shoot the three, I like, that's gonna go in. They got me thinking they damn step-thead.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Hey, listen, because it don't be nobody two, three feet from them. You know what I'm saying? Because Wimby, he take the double team, triple team, and he's just picking you apart. Them guys breaking people down, picking you apart. It's going to be tough to be them, bro. The question is, look, I think the problem that the Rockets really have,
Starting point is 00:29:12 they needed a point guard. Without their fleet, they can't go anywhere. Yeah, it's totally. I like Amman Thompson. I think he's a phenomenal player. He's a great two-way player. But without a true point guard, they're not going nowhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I agree. It was glaring today, too. They needed free and flea. They need somebody who can kind of get everything together. Yeah. Yes. Get them together. You know, when things get a little crazy,
Starting point is 00:29:37 you got to need somebody who can calm everybody down and make sure we get a great shot. But it was healthy, skilter a lot of times out there, man. They were. My thing is, Joe, Ojo, you need a point guard. Y'all mean to tell me that CP got that kind of baggage, don't nobody want him? He can't help nobody in this situation.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I ain't saying you got a sign him for the next five years, but he can't help somebody on a playoff run. Ain't nobody pick him. I don't know. He probably wasn't getting what he, probably wanted getting them phone calls. I can Ocho just. Oh, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But I was. Just, huh? I understand it's not a sum zero. It's a little ice chest, but damn, me, going to keep the middle. Damn. Hey, you know, back in the day, Joe, you know, we had them ice chest. We throw the ice and put the meat on top of that, the refrigerator are gone out.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Hey, yeah, hey, boy, back then ice, I think ice was like 50s of the bag or something like that. Get you about three or four bags and put that ice and put that meter in the ice chest. Hey, listen, you know, as you age, you get up in them 40s and you under 6-2, you know, it's tough to play. It's tough to continue to play. Okay, Ojo. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? them keep running.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah, like you, you're going to have to be up there, six, seven, six eight, six nine to be able to play in your 40s
Starting point is 00:31:03 the way you can still control the game a little bit. You know what I mean? No. Yeah. Joe, you make a very good point. As you get older,
Starting point is 00:31:13 the smaller you are, the harder it is for you to control the game. See, LeBron can control a game because he's six nine. Yeah. Lucas still will be able to control a game because he's six,
Starting point is 00:31:22 seven, six, eight. Yeah. Jok it should be able to control a game because he's six, seven foot. Yeah. But when,
Starting point is 00:31:28 when you lose foot speed and you're six foot tall, and these young boys, hey, these young kids now, man, they got back, they got jet packs on. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:31:40 They're not walking the ball up. That old, Joe, you remember back in it, when you first got in the league, guys would walk the ball up. Yeah. They're pushing this. They get up all up.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Listen, on May Bass, I've seen, I seen the Spurs catch a fast break, and they just got scored on. They scored. Right before Houston can even get back. Like, I'm like, the game is played at such a high pace, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It's like even watching it, you'd be so, you'd be like, come on, man, they could have got a better shot than that because it's just come down, boom, past three. Yeah, three, three, lay up, floater, you know what I mean? It's just the game's so different now, bro. And that's what I'm talking about. Houston seemed like they were like two, three steps slower than the spurs tonight. Houston wanted to play in a half-court set because they got a tremendous half-court player.
Starting point is 00:32:26 and Kevin Durant. They got Shangoon. They can put you in the pick and roll. He can roll. He can pop. KD, you know what KD is. But these young teams, they're not really trying to play half court.
Starting point is 00:32:37 You got to have track shoes on. Hey, mm-hmm. Yeah. You want to keep up with us? Don't bring your Tim. Don't bring your work boots. Bring your track shoes. So we run it.
Starting point is 00:32:48 We run it. You know, hey. Oh, Joe, I know you see, you ain't doing the word. You're from bad, but you ain't had no. I had steel toe boots. Joe, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I know your grandfather, your dad father had steel toes. Yeah. You had them steel to boots. Them brogames. You know you put in a, if you had steel toe boots, you know damn well you put in a hard day. Hey, hold on. Why you do me like that?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Uh, uh, you had no damn steel. I used to work on the docks at the port of Miami down here. I had to wear steel, uh, I was a longshoreman. What you, what you were doing on the dots? I had a lot. I was a longshoreman at the port of Miami. You heard me, Joe? So you, everything that come in, you get, you have to,
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm doing all the containers, man, off them ships and them lows come in, Joe. Hey, I work in the crane, Joe. Now, I'm telling you, Joe, I was a longshoreman. Ask about me, Joe. Yeah, I had still, you got to wear steel-toed boots, Joe. Hey, hey, my grandfather worked on the railroad. He always was still-toe. Hey, hey, I had my steel-toe boots and they had my overall, Joe.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah, no, no, no lie. But back to what we said, Joe. Being in the south is working. You know damn well. You saw somebody with some steel-toed boots, and this is when you know, when the cover has started to roll off the front of them and you could actually see the steel in the toe.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah. That boy working. He doesn't have to work. That boy working. He don't put some working. Yeah, he's working. He doesn't put some work in it. Man, listen, what you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Hey. But the Spurs, they beat the Rockets. Stay close. They're still the number two seed, thanks to a 145-120 victory over the Houston, Texas. The Spurs plays four guys in double, with 20 plus points, and Houston allowed a season most 56 points in the paint. Well, Houston, you're going to lose a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:34:42 If you let a team shoot 58% from the floor and 52% from the three, you lose it. Yeah, you ain't beat nobody with them lower. 145 points. Shit. Nicola Yolkich. We said Nicola is Nicola. Yokic says he's glad he's retiring soon before Wembe took over the NBA.
Starting point is 00:35:04 He's changing basketball. I'm glad that I'll probably retire before Wemby will hold the entire league in a chokehold. Hey. Never seen anything like it. So, so, you've never seen a guy that tall, that skill. You can put the ball on the floor, can shoot the ball from three. Let Kevin the Grant can shoot it.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But he, that man is like five, six inches tall. on the KD. Yeah. And on the defensive end, it's like somebody, Joe, it's like you holding up two broomsticks in the leg. Yeah. You know what it is. Hey, Uncle Joe, hey, shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:35:34 Wembe is basically should be the face of the NBA then, huh? Or the fact that he doesn't have that charisma and personality like Anthony Edwards, would he not be the first, first choice for it? Being that he's probably gonna be the one to dominate the NBA for the next 10, what, 15 years, depending on how long he decides to play. Well, I think globally, you know, he puts a, he brings in a great brand because that's what the NBA wants to go.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yep. You know, it's going to be games over and, you know, during the season, the guys are going to be playing games over there and in Paris and stuff like that. So it only helps the game if you ask me, man. But to be the face of the NBA, Ocho, he got a chance, bro. If he would win a championship for sure. It's just hard. I mean, things are going to change.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's different now because you talk about an American sport and a foreign bar and player being the face of an American sport. Yeah. It's not like baseball because baseball, for the most part,
Starting point is 00:36:37 has always had Latin players. They've always had, you know, they've always had Korean, and the Japanese started coming over when you had Hideki Nomo and Matsu Ro. Yeah. Started come up.
Starting point is 00:36:47 But they've always, they've always had Latin players. Yeah. Always, always. It's different. Baseball has always been a universal or world game. Basketball just became that, say, the last 30-plus years. Once they sent the NBA to the Olympics in 92,
Starting point is 00:37:06 that's what everybody, that's when the dirks and that's when everybody's like, well, damn, that's what I want to do. That's what I want to be. Right. And so now, and because if you really think about it, the top five, six, seven players are foreign born. The Canadian, they're social. They're served, they're Slovenian, they're Greek, they're French.
Starting point is 00:37:26 They're not American. You've got to go far. I mean, nobody's taking, you're not taking not one American player over Luca. You're not taking one over Yolkich. You're not taking one over Shay. You're not taking one over the Greek freak. You're not. You take your best one.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You take Jason Tatum. You take whomever you say is your best American player. And I guarantee you, you're not taking them over Yokic, Yonis, Luca, Shay, you're not. And I'm not so sure you take, even Wimby in his third year, I'm not sure you're taking one over Wemby.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So that's five right there. Yeah. Yeah. The world is not as deep as America, but it's definitely, you got a couple in Greece and you got a couple in Slovenian, Serbia, Canada, X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But as far as just depth, yeah, American got it. But those guys grow up playing together. Like Zion and Job was on the same AAU team. Yeah. All those fresh kids, they played together. Their whole life growing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:39 They grew up. The Serbs, the Slovenians, they played together their whole life growing up. The Greek team, they played together their whole life. And they started playing professional basketball a lot earlier over there. Ojo, versus over here. You know what I mean? Like they may be playing pro over there at 13, 14 years old. So you develop a little faster, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah, there you go. Yes. You start. Luca been playing pro since he was 14. Yeah. Hey, Aunt, can I ask you a question? Yes. Would you really take Luca over like an Antman or Jason Tatum?
Starting point is 00:39:14 I would. It's your preference. Okay. Look, I think the thing is that Luca kicks a lot. Look, today Luca was locked in and we're going to talk about it a little bit. He locked in, caught him a couple of charges, poking the ball out front of the back. Luca will put a little ball in the day. But that's scoring.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Right. He's about to have his, I think, his fourth season where he's average 30. Dang. He's 26. He's 26. Yeah, he's going to put, yeah, look, he's going to take bad shots. He's very unorthodox. He's going to take some bad shots.
Starting point is 00:39:53 He's going to complain. He's going to shoot a shot. shot and he's going to turn and look for the official and he's got room and laid it up on the other end. That's just what it is. Damn. But I think the thing is, and you're talking about a guy that's been, he was the first team all the NBA selection for five consecutive years. Five.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Luca to darn. It's just that if he were to stop complaining, I don't, I don't need him sitting in the chair, Joe. I don't need him to do that. just don't get beat on the initial drive. Can you do that? That's all I want you to do. If he's trying to beat you on initial drive, cut him off, make him pull it back off
Starting point is 00:40:34 or make him give the ball up. That's all I need, Joe, because if he beat you on initial drive, help got to come. If help comes, now you compromise the entire defense. Well, I'm sorry to tell you, y'all.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That's all I need, Joe. Joe, that's all I need. Hey, he's a bad boy. He's a bad boy, boy. When he comes sliding him, puppies he ain't giving you no two slides he might give you one that's a rap after that yeah he I don't know what got him in the day though Joe I don't know what got him today but Luca he was kind of locked in today yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I think him knowing LeBron wasn't
Starting point is 00:41:10 wasn't playing you know he know he had to lock in a little more you know what I mean like you see you ain't you ain't got brought out there you know you got to be great you know to me like you and you and you and you are also going to have to carry us tonight I think they knew he knew that from the start yes yeah I mean this is also Austin looked really good tonight. He was aggressive, put the ball on the paint. Put the ball on the floor, get into the paint. Lucas Luca's Luca.
Starting point is 00:41:34 When Luca making shot, excuse me, guys. When Lucas making shots like that, you had this, you just hope he missed. That man take a one-legged shot from 28 feet, fall out of bounds, into the next bench. What the hell you're going to do? The other night, he kissed one off the glass from 29 feet.
Starting point is 00:41:49 What the hell are you going to do with that? Hey. You hung up on him. He can get by you. He's so herky. He's so unorthodox. He's not gonna beat you with speed. He's bigger than you think.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He's stronger than you think. You're looking at his body like, ah, this milk toast, I'm about to cook him. Okay, cooking. Okay, cooking. It don't seem like he's supposed to be making some of the shots he takes. But he took 16-3 tonight. He was five for 16 from the three.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He took 25 shots. That boy don't mind shooting that side step going left to that three doing. Nope. And on the fast break, hey, he'll stop and let it go. Hey. But you look, he's going to have a high usage rate. He's going to, look, the likelihood of him ever shooting 50% is not good because of the shot selection that he takes. He's not taking, you know, I mean, you look at him in the shots.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You're like, Luca, that you just got accepted. Yeah. You just got accepted. Yeah. Because you want him to be aggressive. You want them to assert himself. you don't want to you can't take that away especially when LeBron's not playing you even when LeBron is playing you still want him to be himself but uh hey hey when you look at them nicks man
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Starting point is 00:46:03 Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Ian, how it's supposed to end. Your boy Yon is going to be in New York. I don't know how Bridges played 27 minutes and then scratch me. I mean, how they're going to win? They can't win like that. He got five trouble early. He can't get him. First of all, he tried to be aggressive with Luca. And Lucas, he's going to. going to use that against you. He's going to get you on his back. And then he's going to stop.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And then you're going to jump. And he's going to bump it from the back. And then guess what? You had free throw. That's the same thing. I mean, and I think the thing is you want to try to get up into Luca. You want to try to be physical with him because that's the thing. Be physical with him.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Right. You try to take advantage of him. You put him in the pick and roll because he's their weakest defender. If you can say the Lakers have a weak defender, a weak is because they got a lot of weak defenders, but he might be the weakest. So you try to put him in the pick and roll. You try to get physical with him. Because, you know, to say the same thing about European players.
Starting point is 00:47:04 They're not that physical. You know, you get physical with Yokic and you get physical with him. Yada, yada, yada. I get all that. And so, you know, and he's probably done crying so much. He's like, man, I'm tired of the joke of crying. I don't want to hear him cry tonight. So let's call some foul.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And he went to the free time. Because remember, Joe, we talked about it the other night. he went to the free throw line 10 times. The other night, he went to the free throw line four times. Yeah. Yeah, he went to the line 10 times. Yeah, but they need him to be like this, though. He has to be aggressive because his offense is his defense, fellas.
Starting point is 00:47:38 You know what I mean? Like, if that's the case, he completely took bridges out of the game. He was a non-factor. You know what I mean? Yes. He's done his job in that part, but they're going to need these other guys to step up, man. I mean, if you play, if you go against Nuka, you got to give them at least half.
Starting point is 00:47:58 He does, yeah, scoring wise. Give you. Because if you don't, I mean, he gave you 35 bridges, gave you nothing. So he's plus 35 in that aspect. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. So you got to half him up at bare minimum. You like to play him to a tie.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Now, the thing is, Joe, and the same thing with SGA or any of these players. Joe, if they get their numbers, let's just say Luca gets 30, 35, and it takes him 30 shots. Joe, I've done my job. Yeah. I've done my job.
Starting point is 00:48:30 If Shea gets 35 and it takes him 28, 29 shots to get it, I've done my job. What I can't do is allow him to get 35 on 16, 7 shots. There you go. There you go. Because now I know he's being extremely efficient. Now he, hey, the 16 threes that he took, he made 11 of them.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Now, now I'm in trouble. Right. that's the thing with a score if you get your numbers and i make and i make you get those numbers being inefficient yeah you got to hey you got to shake his hand quarterback throw for 300 350 yards oh joe and it taking 57 attempts i can't do nothing about that i just can't let him have 350 on 30 attempts right right because that just means if he got 350 on 30 attempts oh joe he probably completed 25 of them i mean you know you know the funny thing about it is the depending on who they play,
Starting point is 00:49:23 when you play these special players, obviously like a Shay, like a Luca, like a Joker, like a Wimby, and if you don't have a player that has the green light to be able to shoot in volume to match their point total, there has to be something else you can do to be able to stop them, huh? And Joe, something else to slow them down,
Starting point is 00:49:41 but every time we come on, and we talk about the game of basketball and how difficult it is to slow them down, how difficult it is to contain them, I mean, it's bad, especially when they're always when only give you, well, Luca in general, so that's who we talk about, you only give you on one
Starting point is 00:49:56 end of the court. You only give you some on one end of court. Yeah. Do you realize that Wemby has more blocks than Joker in his career? How? He just got an NBA. Exactly. That's just going to that's my point. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Tadda. Yeah. Yeah, Joker ain't blocking no shot. No, that's not his game. His game is, is that I'm going to punish you so bad. Yeah. So bad on the offensive end.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And I'm going to get my teammates involved so much that you ain't going to be able to do nothing. And if you don't, like I said, that's why he killed. Look, if you go back and look at his numbers against Gobert because Gobert can't make him work. He's not going to give you anything on the other end. So now Joker is just free to do whatever he's going to do. Yeah. That's why he has a 60 point, you know, triple double or whatever he's had. Hey, ho, that's all you.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You got to make a guy. You've got to make a guy like Jordan. You got to make a guy like Kobe. You've got to make them work on the other end. If you don't, if you let them coast. Got to make them uncomfortable. And let them use all that energy on the office of end. You're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You better make that bad work on the defensive. You got to make him guard somebody. Yeah. Facts. That's why they always took Larry and put him on the week. You take Larry Bird. you put him on the weakest offensive guy. I want you to say that, Angie.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I need you to bust the ass on the other evening. That's why I always tip my hat to something like a Kobe or Jordan or these guys that are offensive guys and says, you know what, I want the defensive challenge as well. Yeah. Because it takes a lot. You've got to exert a lot. And everybody can't do that.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Now, Jordan didn't have a luxury that he has Scottie so he could ease it like, you know what A.C. Scott is. And you're talking about a guy that is six foot seven that has long arm that can slide his feet as well as a small. player. But everybody don't got that. You have to want to dominate the game, bro. They wanted to
Starting point is 00:51:59 dominate the game. I'm talking about from start to finish. Yes. They wanted to dominate the game. It was no way that you had a chance to win, which is why they picked back then, back in the day. When you look like, we always talk about the top the top four to eight teams in the NBA, really probably four or five.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They play tough defense, bro. They play extended pressure. They pick you up four. wear you down like they were doing KD tonight, picking them up four, wearing him down. That's what they're going to do to you, the whole entire game. And hopefully in the fourth quarter, you ain't got enough energy to continue to play at that peak level.
Starting point is 00:52:34 You know what I mean? Yep. Yeah. The Lakers beat the Knicks 110 to 97. LeBron James with a late scratch, to elbow contusion, arthritis in his left foot, excuse me. But L.A. held the number three team on offense to just 47, excuse me, under 43% shooting with 19 turnovers.
Starting point is 00:52:51 which is 20 points below the next season average. Like I said, O.G., excuse me, McHale Bridges only gave him zero points. But when you look at Rui, came in, played really well. He gave him 13 points on 3.8 from 3. Marcus Mark. Hey, he's a defensive guy, but he didn't shoot the ball well today. But you had Luca, had 35.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Austin Reeves had 25. And like I said, Joe, you and I were talking about this. Luke Knarr. Yeah. Luke Conard has been a godsend. Yeah. Because they basically swapped Luke Connard for getting. There you go.
Starting point is 00:53:22 There you go. Vincent, look, they got him after he had that great run with Miami. Yeah. He was a guy that made some three with a three and D guy. But it's, I don't know what it is, but when guys can shoot the ball wherever they are until they come to the Lakers or they team up with the broad and all of a sudden, they can get out to shoot the ball. It's too much pressure. It's different over there wearing that jersey, huh? It's different over there wearing that that purple and gold, huh?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Hey, big city bright lights, man. It's a little different. Hey, you know, you know what's going on. Expectations. The number one killer is expectations. We've seen, we've seen guys with nothing expected. We've seen guys when nothing was expected, our teams, when nothing is expected of them.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And then the next year when they have those expectations, what they do? Because now we have expectations where we didn't have that last year. You have expectations on a player where we didn't have that last year. So let's see now. Now that they know what you can do. They know who you are. They know what type of team of you are. Can you still do it again?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yeah, that's a hard part, man. You have to be hungry for success to do that, bro. Like to want to do it over and over. I thought they did a great job. They didn't turn. They only had 13 turnovers, the Lakers. Yeah. Luca had almost half of those.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah. But he, look, he has a high- usage rates. The ball's going to be in his hand. When you have the ball that much, it's hard for you not to turn it over in an abundance. It just is. Most guys that lead in usage
Starting point is 00:54:59 going to be up there in turnovers. Just the way you go back and look at guys that's led in usage and see their turnovers where they rate. But this was a big win. This was a big win for them. They needed this. It was.
Starting point is 00:55:13 It was a huge game, too. Huge game. Yeah. I'm telling y'all, man, If the Knicks don't do what they're supposed to do this year, your boy, that's where your boy gonna be at, watch. What I try to tell you. You're about the young bull from Greece?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, Greek free. And they should have did that this season, huh? Well, you're talking about, well, hold on. He's talking about he don't want no ball, Dominic. Guard, what do you think, Bruce? They're going to trade Brunson? Hey, listen, he's going to have to deal with this. You're going to have to get with it because we got a plan now.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, anybody trying to hell all that, man. But if you think about it, with the exception of maybe San Antonio or a few teams, all the really good teams got their ball dominant. That's what I'm saying. Who you think got the ball with OKC? Who got, who got, who has the ball with the legals? Who has, I mean, I don't think Boston's going to break up their team. Boston swings the ball.
Starting point is 00:56:10 They're not swinging. Cade has the ball. So I'm just trying to figure out where he thinks he's going to go. And somebody is greatest as the Greek for kids, right? You don't think he can adapt to a different situation where you don't have to touch the ball all the time as great as you are? That's not who, that's how he, that's, no, that's not who he is.
Starting point is 00:56:28 He's not, he's, his numbers won't be as Gotti as they are now. It won't be 30 and 15. Nope. He might have to take it down, okay, Ocho, take it down about 20, 24, 25, and 12 or something. I'm saying, and be able to win the championship? Yes. man what you doing over there what y'all doing in milwaukee over there y'all ain't got nothing going true
Starting point is 00:56:53 you ain't got nothing going would you so i'm just saying hypothetically speaking if he is to go to the next so that mean basically if he does bring the ball up i mean that that don't make no sense he he would have times oh cho i'm not i'm not saying they're going to take the ball out of his hands but it just probably won't be as much man we we got options we can you know y'all have to have a high usage rate. Look at Yonis' usage rate. He got to be top five. Some good games today, man.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I think the thing is, all things being equal, Joe. Yonis really prefers because Yonis knows he's going to be looked at differently if he leaves now. Because we look at all the guys, what do we commend Jordan for? He won six championships
Starting point is 00:57:44 in one spot. What did Kobe do? Five championships in one spot. Tim Duncan, one spot. Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, one spot. Steph Curry, one spot. What do we criticize LeBron? KD. But hold on.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yonish knows what comes along with that. But look at the team. Look at all the players you named that done it in one spot. Look at the teams that were built around those said players that you just mentioned. The teams where LeBron is played for, did they have anything that matches up or were even equivalent to the other four on the team that they played at? People don't care about that, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:58:17 People don't care about that. You know what they do? No. know. No. They, I, we do. Joe, do basketball, a lot of basketball people does if you're not trying to paint a narrative. Because what they say, if you are great, if you're the goat, you should be able to win a championship regardless of who you play with. That's tough. You know, you know that other four, Joe, you know that supporting chaos matter. That's in any sport.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Man. See, the thing is, as long as a team control, what a team traded him. So, now the team traded you, that's okay. But if I request to go to a team because the team isn't good enough or the team trades me because they want to bring a player in to try to win. Now I want to go somewhere
Starting point is 00:59:04 because you not bring the players in to try to win and I want to go somewhere. You use that against me. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't want to see a situation where Yon is get stuck in a situation to where he's playing meaningless basketball.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Ain't that what he doing that? That's what I'm saying, Ocho. That's what I'm saying. Like I know he's been there his whole entire career and he probably don't want to uproot and move to. But this is a different era, Uncle. This ain't, this ain't, you know what I mean? It's not the 80s than 90s.
Starting point is 00:59:33 No, this ain't that. Like these guys on my- They caught KG in that situation. KG came into the 90s and guys were loyal, didn't want to leave until they're on their last, last legs. And KG probably stayed four years, too long in Minnesota. KG was supposed to Ben got up out of there But KG wanted to be loyal to the soil
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, and he'll tell you He probably wish he would have left early He could have had him a couple championships Absolutely, yeah So it's like I know Yonis got one And he wanted to stick around in Milwaukee He's saying all the right things
Starting point is 01:00:06 But amen Wouldn't Dame Litter also be an example Of the same thing Staying somewhere A little bit too long Because you want to be loyal Yes Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:17 But you see now We put in so much because it's the ring or nothing. See, it used to be, it wasn't like that. Right. But this ring culture now, because fans say, well, there have been some great players that don't have rings, and you have second and third and fourth options
Starting point is 01:00:32 that have rings, and they got people saying they're better than a one option that doesn't have rings. There are some guys that got rings, and people actually think they're better than Charles Markley. They're better than Carl Malone. And you're high. Yeah, they're high.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Yeah. But because people have placed so much value on rings. I mean I'm I'm an eye test guy yeah rings now if I'm factored in Joe if I'm saying EST great is I think you have to bring rings into the occasion and even though I understand that this is a team game yeah I factor it all there I factor in regular season MVP's final MVP's all NBA all defensive all that yeah points rebounds I bring all that into the equation because I think you have to when you're saying great tists.
Starting point is 01:01:24 But these people, I mean, a lot of people like, oh, he ain't got no rings. He banned. People like, they crap on Charles Barkley. If you actually saw Chuck play, if you actually saw him play, you'll never see another guy six foot four under lead to NBA in rebounds. He did that. Dominated. Charles Barkley was a power forward at six foot four.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And back then, everybody played with a truck. true five and a true boy please. Yeah. Everybody had a big. And they had a big ass power for it to go alongside. So you had Robert Parrish at seven foot and then you had Kevin McKell at 16. You had Ralph Sampson at seven four. You had Akeem Elijah one at seven foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 That's how everybody played. You had Rick Smith and you had the big ass Davis boys in Indiana. Everybody played. that everybody played with a one, two, three, four, five. It wasn't no stretch, nothing. Nah. No, sir. And look, I get it.
Starting point is 01:02:31 But now, I mean, you got guys, oh, man, he got a ring. He better. There are a lot of guys, there are a lot of receivers that got rings. So if y'all say, so now receivers they got a ring, he better than Randy? He better than T.O. Okay. I'm going to let y'all say that. I'm going to let y'all say that.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I ain't got to call no name, but they've been a little. received that there's won some Super Bowls and bless them you've been fortunate of a team I was a part of a team I ain't went no two I was part of a team that won because I understand that it takes a team to win championships boy let's not fool ourselves now let's not fool ourselves there's some quarterbacks just won championships and quarterbacks to have it yeah come on now yeah yeah but social media has done that because what is done is that it's allowed everybody to have opinion and have their opinions heard. Yeah. And so now, oh, he better, he better, he better. I listened to the Michael Jordan, because I saw that pop up and he's like, like I ain't going to get a part of this goat conversation. He said, you know why?
Starting point is 01:03:34 He said, because I didn't play against those guys in their era and I didn't play against these guys in these era. He said, it's not to take anything. KD. I think KD and LeBron. He said, Kobe, he's like Kobe caught me, not in my prime. He caught me to tail end. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:47 But no. And it's hard. It's hard to compare errors because errors do different things. Some errors, they mainly ran to football, no, Cho. So how are you going to say a guy, well, he only called? Yeah, Lee and Swan only called 300 passes. But they only three, I mean, I think he had 300 catches for a career. But they might throw the ball 200 times a season.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So if you throw the ball 200 times a season, so how would you passers you think they'll catch when you divided up between four wire receivers even the two tight ends? Yeah, you're right. And running back stats now are not. going to be like they work because they don't run the ball or you got a two-back system. And he got rid of the running back.
Starting point is 01:04:29 The old, the, I don't know, I don't know if we're going to see. Derek Henry might be the last of true power. I can't hear y'all. Is it my phone? You're my. You're back. You back. You went out for a little minute.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Okay. Okay. Huh? No, I think, could you, you guys hear me now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought my stuff had went out over office. Okay. Jalen Brown has to,
Starting point is 01:05:02 scored 23 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists. The Celtics beat the Cavaliers 1-09 to 98. Jason Tatum and his second game back had 20 points. After the second game back, I think he had, what, 12 points? No, he had 15 points in the first game with 12 rebounds. He had 20, so you see the improvement there. He had a big three to push the game out of reach. And I think he had a tweet that says,
Starting point is 01:05:27 Girl, I missed you. I think he said something like that. But he had on 27 minutes, he had 20 points on 6. of 16 shooting two or nine from the three six or seven uh from the free throw line j b was uh seven of 17 one of three eight oh nine from the three point line he had 23 points Peyton pritchard uh 18 points seven to 12 and hey I don't know who this kid is this uh this uh this left-handed scrimmer scrimmerman but man he would let that fade fly amen because every time they got close he'd be spotted up in the corner
Starting point is 01:06:03 I'm like, damn, who is he? Hey, bossing looks scary now, okay. Hey, hey, Uncle, hey. All right, Joe, Joe, Joe, that's what you're on the court and somebody hit the three, you're like, who the F is he? Yeah, right. Hey, hey, Uncle, Joe, I'm surprised, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I mean, Jason, Jason, you know, obviously, I was worried, especially coming off that injury, but seeing what he did, first game, 15, this game he had 20 and I'm sure, I mean, he played 27 minutes a night. And as he gets a little bit more comfortable, gets a little bit more acclimated to the speed of the game and then everything catches up, he gets back in rhythm. Man, hell, they might be here to deal with again. They was already him to deal with without Jason Tatum.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Now you add him back into the fold. You know, I'm sitting here talking about, you know, let Jason Tatum work yourself back and, you know, work yourself back into the game, you know, let Jaylon Brown steer the ship. Well, hell, you came back and ain't missed a goddamn beat. Man, listen, once he gets back fine-tuning, Arcan Ocho, and that'll be right, right probably when the playoffs about to hit. Yeah. He'll be comfortable enough to where he know he got to strengthen that leg and that Achilles
Starting point is 01:07:12 and he kind of get it out of his mind. Yeah, man, it pushed them right back at the top of the, at the Eastern Conference. Yeah, dang. They just, because it makes them so deep, and now you got another guy who you can rely on as far as closing out games, managing games, taking the initiative, and some of the top guys. Shit, put Boston right back at the top, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Dang. Yeah. I think I agree with you. And we're going to talk about Detroit who's been struggling as of late. I don't know what it is with Cleveland. You just don't believe in them at this time of the year, do you? Nope.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Hey, uncle. I don't think you should. And I don't think anybody else does or should. Two-headed months, don't? it's not they it's they complimentary pieces i don't see nobody who's going to win them a game and a playout in a tough playoff series like you think hard and mitchell and mowgli they're going to be solid i think they'll be good enough to you know to win a couple games but they you're going to need somebody who's going to have an out-of-body experience on your ocho in the postseason
Starting point is 01:08:25 for you to you know for you to advance bro like you need a little luck when you're when you're in the Like, you can have your great players play great, but you're going to need somebody to be able to step up and have one of them nicer where they had 18 to 25 points and we get that dub. And I just don't see it. Well, I feel like when I watch Cleveland play, they have to work so hard to score the basketball that it hadn't really looked real free flowing. Like when you watch Boston, like when you watch OKC, like when you watch San Antonio, when you watch these top teams play, they just don't move the ball like that. No. And Evan Moble, who had a good game today.
Starting point is 01:09:04 He had 24 points, eight rebounds. Donovan Mitchell shot 50% from the floor. He had 34 points. Hardin had 19, 10, and 4. But that was it. You get seven points from Dean Wade.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You get five from Merrill, one or seven from the three for him. Thomas Bryant, Schrooter, Jalen Tyson. I just don't know. You're not beating, you're not beating anybody with 13. 13 with 13 binge points.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah. No, you're in trouble. Because the one thing you know about Boston, Peyton Pritch is coming up the bench. He's going to give you 15. Yeah. Hey, he mess around. He's 35 while you playing.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, let, let, let, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know, he's like, okay, I'm cool. I'll sit back like JT back, uh, uh, uh, and J.B. doing what he does, but let one of them be out. Right. And see what he do. And they put his ass in the start line up.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Or let it, or don't put him to start line up, but let him get 30, five minutes and see what he do. Let him cook. Let him cook. Yeah. He's fishing his hair, Joe. Anytime you get the opportunity
Starting point is 01:10:09 where it's off the bench or where they're starting, he's going to give you that work. Yeah. But I watched him today. I was like, man, he's shooting step back. I mean, he's shooting turnaround,
Starting point is 01:10:18 stepbacks. Ball high as a mofo. Okay, hey, confidence through the roof. Yeah. Swish. Yeah. So, look, you know, he's so confident because he didn't play,
Starting point is 01:10:29 been the starting point guard a lot throughout this whole season. So his confidence through the roof, he's in the right spot. He in the right spot. He needs to be in. Come in and get us that spark plug, and we might need you to go for 30 tonight. And he can do it. Yeah, with no problem. I think the thing is it's going to take Schroeder some time.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Shrewd is a guy that can win your game. We've seen Shruder play well in the postseason. We saw him play well for the Lakers. We saw him play well last year for Detroit against the Knicks. So Shruder has some experience. We'll see how that work out. but they need their big guns. Hardin, Donovan, Evan Mobley.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Now, they were Mr. Jared Allen, but they're going to need their big guns to be firing. Without them firing, they're not going to do anything and they're not going anywhere. Right, right. I agree. The only thing about Shrew and Uncle, you got Hardin and Mitchell, both of them going to, one of them going to always be on the court
Starting point is 01:11:20 at all the times and they're going to always have a ball in their hands. And Shruder needs the ball. And Shruder kind of needs the ball. Mm-hmm. So it's hard for him to be effective. You know what I mean? Yep. Pistons were blown out by the Miami Heat.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, by who they're blown out? Blowing out the number one C. They blew a 20-something point lead. The bucks, excuse me, Detroit did, blew a 20-something point lead to Brooklyn. It ended up losing. Tobias Harris had nine.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Jalen Duren had 24. Kade was efficient today. only 18 uh only had 26 Paul Reed but this game wasn't even close nah you just you don't have enough
Starting point is 01:12:11 firepower Detroit offensively like that's a great game by K but for them to win okay Ocho like I said he always has to play lights out kind of over over and beyond like he probably need about 35 tonight honestly but you need these other guys around them to step up
Starting point is 01:12:28 bro and be effective and be able to help I don't know what's wrong with Detroit, man. They have tape, but I don't know if they got bored because they got such a big lead on everybody or what? I mean, I'm trying to figure out what happened to Norman Powell. Why they're not playing him? The guy that could have been an all-star.
Starting point is 01:12:44 He was an all-star. Yeah, he was an all-star. Yeah, he must be hurt. D&P, coaching decision. But Detroit's going to have to do better defensively. I mean, they let six guys get double figures. Bam, had 24. Tyler Hero had 25.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Phil Larson had 10. Jaime Hartkeye, 19, K-O-Ware, 12. But you also, hey, Uncle Joe, but y'all both got to understand, chat. Y'all also had to understand what the Pistons had to deal with tonight. The Pistons were playing the best team in the East. You hear me?
Starting point is 01:13:16 The Pistons were playing the best team in the East, so y'all sitting here confused on why Detroit looked and why they've tapered off. But, hello, look who you plan. You're playing the best team, probably the team that's going to come out East. It might not look like it right now, but I'm just telling you what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Not. Wait, come again? Man. What you said? Okay. I don't got them coming out to East Oakville, but they'll make, they'll make some noise. They got some guys who capable and guys who can go off and have big games. And they will coach, bro. You know, them dudes ain't going to really do a whole lot to hurt themselves. You know, you just got to be disciplined when you play them. But they, I mean, just don't surprise me that they beat Detroit. I think they're definitely capable of doing that.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I just, you talk about a series. Oh, yeah. Hey, Joe, hold on, Joe, don't do that. Now, we talk about this. We talk about the seven-game series. Boy, it's a rap. You know, you know, you know, you know. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:14:09 It's a rap. What do you mean? We got this. You don't believe me. We rise to the occasions in moments that matter. So in the seven-game series, if, if it happens, which is going to happen when we come out to east, you know, somebody going home. I don't know who is going to be.
Starting point is 01:14:29 But the fat lady going to sing. You don't believe in the heat? No. Okay. Okay. Can I ask your question? Yeah. You not believing in the heat.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Are you willing to put money in that belief or you're just saying it because you just, you just. They're not coming out of the east. Yes. I put money on the heat or not coming out of the east. All right. We're going to leave it at that. I want you to remember these words. I want to ask.
Starting point is 01:14:55 I want you to clip this statement from Unk and we want to keep it at that. Yeah. But there is. Joe, he can't give you 24 and 5. What you need? He's not a 10 foot tall. He got to be double-digit rebounds. Yeah, he need to be double-digit rebounds, but they don't get, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:15 Bam don't really, he's the center, but he's like the point center. He kind of like similar to Yokes, like he'll bring it up. He'll initiate the offense. So he ain't just under the basket all the time. You know what I mean? So that's what you want to have. You want to have a big who can pull them, them big guys away from that basket. and get them to where they are uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And I think that's really much what happened because Bam, he had a great game today. He had a great game today, too. Bam, they wrote, yeah. Hell, Bam shot got up 10. The Bam got up 10 threes. Yeah, he's been shooting the three lately. He been shooting three later.
Starting point is 01:15:47 They look good. You know, Miami does this, Ocho. You know, they come out, they have a great game. They play well. They get them a nice little seed. And then, you know, it'll be first round. Huh? I'm just keeping it real, man.
Starting point is 01:16:00 You want me to be honest, don't you? I want you to be honest, Joe, but didn't you play for the heat, Joe? Yeah, I played for the heat. Way, had a good old time. I don't, I don't, I don't like your tone. I don't like what you, I don't like what you putting out there in the atmosphere. The tongue is powerful, Joe. I have to be honest when I'm on here talking to you or on.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I have to be honest. So that's, that's, so that's both of y'all don't have no faith in the heat. Nope. All right. Say less. Nope. Meanwhile, the pistons have lost four. four games in a row, Ocho. Joe, is it time to panic?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Nah, ain't no time to panic. I mean, they got to get, they just got to get back. They got to get it back together. Like I said, they got such a big lead on everybody in the East. I think they didn't got a little bored, okay, Ocho, me personally. You know what I mean? Oh, man, we got a few games. We probably could squander lovel, but they got to,
Starting point is 01:16:50 they got to get back on track now. This thing winding down. I don't like that, but a simple fact, you ain't want nothing to be more. Yeah. You should get tired. You should get bored of winning champion. It may people get sometimes, and you have a lot of, a little low when you won a championship.
Starting point is 01:17:03 They ain't won nothing. You're right. You're right. I'm concerned because you lost to the Nets. You got a 20-something point lead and you lose to the Nets. You can't lose to the Nets. That's why I put it toward them getting bored because I'm like, man, they were beating the Nets head in. It's like, and you lose that game, man, you don't
Starting point is 01:17:21 get bored, bro. I don't know what to tell you. Like, you need to, you know, get it back in gear. But, you know, it's starting to wind on down. Man, I expect for them to tighten up. make this late run. Hey, Joe, I think they're going to be right, Uncle Joe. You know, even in battle,
Starting point is 01:17:36 some of the best luck is going to slums. You hear me? Yeah, for sure. For sure. They're going to slump, man. They're going to be straight. Ready for a different take on Formula One?
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