Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Wilder gets knocked out, Caitlin Clark takes cheap shot

Episode Date: June 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Zhilei Zhang knocking out Deontay Wilder in the fifth round of what could be the last boxing match of Wilder's career, Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson get...ting postponed due to Iron Mike's health scare, Caitlin Clark getting hit by a cheap shot from Chennedy Carter in the Indiana Fever's victory over Angel Reese and the Chicago Sky, and much more!03:41 - Show starts06:52 - Zhang defeats Wilder33:52 - Tyson-Paul Postponed41:21 - SoccerCap44:19 - Dennis Schroder Makes Soccer debut48:10 - Caitlin Clark cheap shot(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Down goes Wilder. Down goes Wilder. Down goes Wilder. He's down. He's down. I don't think he's going to get up, Ocho. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharpe.
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Starting point is 00:06:42 Wilder in the fifth round. Zang finished Wilder with a pair of big right hands. The power that had made Wilder once one of the most feared punches in boxing never factored into this fight, with Zang forcing Wilder to fight off his back foot for nearly the entire fight. Punch stats, Ocho. Total punches landed. Wilder had 16.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Zang had, man, that was so pedestrian. They was throwing like three punches or four punches a round. It was some bull jive. But anyway. Yeah. Deontay Wilder. You know them heavyweights. Now you got to be careful.
Starting point is 00:07:16 You got that kind of power. You got to be cautious. I mean, they can throw more than four a round, but okay. They threw, Deontay Wilder landed 16 punches. Zayn added 33. Deontay Wilder landed 16 punches. Zang added 33. Deontay threw 95 punches. Zang threw 73. Wilder landed 17%.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Zang landed 45. Jav landed 5-4 in favor of Wilder. Jav's thrown. Wilder threw 53 jabs. He only landed 5. Zang threw 16 jabs. He landed 4. Power only landed five. Zhang threw 16 jabs. He landed four. Power shots landed 11 to 29.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Zhang landed 29. Wilder landed 11. Power shots thrown 42 to 57. Zhang threw 15 more power shots, and he landed 50%. If you land 50% of your power shots, you're going to get somebody up out of your ocho. I don't care. We know heavyweights can turn the lights out of the building with one punch. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Anytime. I don't care if you fighting a strawweight, bantamweight, whatever. You land 50% of your power shots. Hey, that's a high percentage. Listen, that's a high percentage, especially in the earlier rounds. Especially in the earlier rounds. Listen, Zayn came into the fight 68 more pounds heavier than Deontay Wilder.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So I'm thinking he's taking, okay, he's going to take a page out of Tyson Fury's book, and I'm expecting him, I'm expecting him to go into the later rounds. So tying Deontay Wilder up, tiring him out, you know, making it heavy on his legs
Starting point is 00:08:44 in the later rounds. But he didn't even get to that. You didn't even get to that point where you had to lay on him and get him a little tired. And I'm not sure what Zayn saw after that first round, but in the second round, he switched to southpaw, and he hurt my dog with that uppercut.
Starting point is 00:09:00 When he hurt my dog with that uppercut... Legs were wobbly, he never recovered. He never recovered, man. He was never the same after that. And they always say in boxing, when you get knocked out the first time, sometimes you're never able to recover. And every time you get hit again,
Starting point is 00:09:15 you're going down. Ocho, once something happens, it's easier for it to happen again. If you notice, Ocho, you ever bit your tongue and you find yourself biting your tongue in that same spot over and over and over again. If you notice, Ocho, you ever bit your tongue, and you find yourself biting your tongue in that same spot over and over and over again. If you stub your toe one time, guess what? You stub that toe over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:09:32 When you get knocked out, it becomes easier for you to not get knocked out, because that brain is not the same around in that skull, so it's easier. It's easier, Ocho. It is. It is. Hey, listen, that hurt. That see to see someone uh for me that started late in the game of boxing and understanding the run that he did
Starting point is 00:09:54 have uh a lot of people make jokes i think he's one of the greatest heavyweights to ever to ever fight obviously packing a punch with that right hand if if he catch you with it, he had a great run. He had a tremendous run. I'm not sure if it's the end of his career. It's over, Ojo. You know it. Listen, I hear a lot of the commentators say, you know what? It's over now. That's it. Hang it up. I would like to see
Starting point is 00:10:17 him fight again, but fight competition where he can get some of his confidence back. I don't know. Every time he gets touched, Ojo. Yeah, that's the. I don't know. Every time he gets touched, don't show. Yeah, that's the part I don't like.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I don't like the fact that we're factoring because he's lost three or four fights now. This is his fourth loss? Fourth loss in five fights. Yeah, man. I just don't want to see him go.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And if he does go, I want to see him go on top. I don't want to see him end. And if he does go, I want to see him go on top. I don't want to see him end this way. Man, that fifth round, when he hit, when he... The timing Zayn had on that left. Yeah. And that fifth round, he timed it perfectly. Because when he caught it with Ojo, he's looking for the left.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But he caught it with a right. So you're trying to dodge. You make sure you go into your left, so you'll stay away from his power shot, which is the left. Power shot. But you walk right into a right. So you're trying to dodge. You make sure you go into your left so you'll stay away from his power shot, which is the left. Power shot. But you walked right into the right. And I knew it was over.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I thought he was in a horror movie because he turned around. I said, he's behind you. He's behind you. I was talking to him. Where you coming? I was talking to him. The bucket man behind you.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Hey, I think he caught him and I think he stunned him a little bit. A little bit? He stunned him to the point. Listen, yeah, but he stunned him a lot because he turned around. But what you got to do in boxing is when you get hit,
Starting point is 00:11:32 the one thing, the one thing you have to do is remain relaxed the best way you can. And if you can, grab, lock up until you can recover. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And he did. He did relax. Did you see how he went down? He was so relaxed. Come on. Come on. Don't do it like that. You got a baby. What's the name?
Starting point is 00:11:55 What's the baby name? French Fry. With French Fry's sleep, how you lay him down in the bed? Did you see how he fell? Did you see how he fell? Yeah. Make sure he didn't bump his head. I have a question. I have a question though.
Starting point is 00:12:10 For people in the chat, the people that did see the fight for you two, do you think the referee stopped the fight too soon? Hell no. He got up on the eighth count. No, he got up. Remember, he got up. He said, walk to him. He looked at the line. I'll tell you, he looked like this here. Yeah, but the ref called.
Starting point is 00:12:26 What are they going to do? Do you think? Listen, even after a knockdown, Deontay Wilder still has a puncher's chance to stay in that fight or even come back in that fight. Do you think the ref made the right call? You're asking for trouble when a heavyweight gets punched like that. And you see how that leg started shaking. I thought he was trying to start a motorcycle the way that leg was shaking.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Boom! Boom! Boom! And so, nah, Ocho, don't take any more chances. The thing is, Ocho, the problem that Deontay has is that he's a one-trick pony. Is that he has dynamite, yes. But everybody, if I make you fight now he
Starting point is 00:13:07 still could turn the lights out of the place even fighting off his back foot but if you notice everybody pressures him so he's not coming forward he's going back right and he doesn't have the skills to be able to put punches together everything is he's just waiting to land that one power shot so now the guys have found ways to neutralize that power shot now he can't right he's not the same since fury beat him he hasn't been the same he hasn't looked the same he got dominated he didn't win a round the last fight right he didn't win a round oh joe it's over it's it's It's okay. He made some nice money. I don't look at him. I get it.
Starting point is 00:13:48 What he has, what three losses, he has 41 knockouts with 42 victories. I get that. But I'm not looking at him as an all-time great heavyweight like we look at Ali, like we look at Larry Holmes, like we look at Lennox Lewis, like a holy field. I don't look at him like that.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Okay, but are you not looking at him like that because his record is tremendous and some of the people you name have losses as well? Yeah, it's not about the losses. Is it because the way his career ended or the way it's ending right now, which is why I said he should do another fight, the finish on top instead of going out with a loss?
Starting point is 00:14:20 All those other guys, they had Olympic experience. You look at the guys that I've mentioned, going out with a lot. All those other guys. Yes, sir. They had Olympic experience. You look at the guys that I've mentioned, you look at Foreman, or even though Foreman was a heavy puncher. Foreman won the gold medal in 68 in Mexico. Ali won the gold medal.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Excuse me. Right. Foreman won the gold medal in 68 in Mexico City. Ali won the gold medal, if I'm not mistaken, in Rome. And I think Joe Frazier won the gold medal, if I'm not mistaken, in Rome. And I think Joe Frazier won the gold medal in 64 in Tokyo. Don't quote me, but I think I'm right in that situation. If you go back and look at the heavyweights,
Starting point is 00:14:54 they had amateur experience. So you learn how to put punches together because the likelihood of you being able to... I mean, it happens, but they got no headgear. So now I got to put punches together because the judge is looking at how well, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:08 how well you throw your punches, your combination, you put stuff together. So you look at the guys, Holyfield went to the Olympics. Riddick Bowe went to the Olympics. I mentioned Tyson. He was,
Starting point is 00:15:19 he was an alternate. He didn't actually go. Somebody would have got hurt in the division. He'd have filled in, but you look at Ali, you look at, uh, uh, uh, uh, at Ali, you look at Frazier, you look at Foreman, you look at a lot of these headweights. Look at Klitschko. Look at
Starting point is 00:15:31 Bo. Look at Anthony Joshua. They won gold medals. They... But remember, you got to understand, remember, he started late. That's my point. He came in the game late in boxing, so the tutelage and the learning and the ability to put punches together, the ability to understand how to move and be somewhat of a pure boxer and not be, I hate saying one trick pony, you know, having that one dynamite shot. You know, he came late in the game. So to develop those skills where you normally start when you're 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 years old,
Starting point is 00:16:05 he missed that time. So what he did have is, what he did have it worked for him until he came against an elite pure boxer that was a heavyweight that could move and had great defense. But normally when we look at great heavyweights, we say, okay, look at the heavyweights that they beat.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We look at Evander Holyfield. He beat Mike Tyson. He beat Riddick Bowe. Riddick Bowe beat Holyfield. Look at Lenny Lewis. You look at who he beat. You look at Ali. You look at Frazier. You look at Foreman.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You look at the clinical. You look at some of the people that they beat. You say, okay, when we go back and we look at his resume, who on Wilder's resume is going to say wow he was a good fighter and Wilder beat him who are we going to look at on his resume the reason why we give Floyd
Starting point is 00:16:57 and we give Sugar Ray and we give these fighters we look at who they beat they beat he beat Tommy Hearns. He beat Marvin Hagler. Well, damn, he beat Wilford Benitez. Hagler beat Hearns. Hearns beat Duran.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You know, also, there was a time there was a time, wasn't nobody trying no heavyweights, wasn't nobody trying to get in that ring with Wilder, man. You know? There was a time, wasn't nobody trying to get in that ring with Wilder man you know there was a time wasn't nobody trying to go in that ring
Starting point is 00:17:28 and deal with that right hand that left hand whichever one it is considering how late he got started to the game I will give him credit for getting to the the height
Starting point is 00:17:37 that he ascended to that he did yes sir when you fight guys that have amateur backgrounds and they know how to set punches up and they know okay he's good at coming forward well that was the thing with mike mike was always the bully once he couldn't bully yeah he couldn't he couldn't bully buster douglas right buster douglas made tyson fight backing up for the first in his life, he had to fight off his back foot.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Boom. Now you go look at when he fought Holyfield. He couldn't bully Holyfield. Holyfield made him fight off his back foot. So the question is like, when you, the really great fighters, okay, this is what he, okay, he's trying to take this away from me.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Let me find a different way to get to where I need to. And eventually I can work my way in the fight and I can fight coming forward if I need to. I can counter whatever he needs to do. Deontay Wilder had one punch. It was dynamite. It was lightning.
Starting point is 00:18:34 It was TNT. Whatever term you want to use, if he landed it flush, very few people, the only person that's ever gotten up from that punch is Tyson Fury. And see, here's the thing Ocho if you
Starting point is 00:18:46 let's just say you in a fight you hit that guy hard as you can he doesn't see that punch you knock him down and he sits up like the Undertaker
Starting point is 00:18:57 take off running cause you hit him with your best shot yeah like Olivia New John say hit me with your best shot best shot yeah he hit him with his best shot so what do you do after that ocho your grandmother
Starting point is 00:19:10 started telling you boy somebody bother you pick out something and lay him out and if you don't lay him out take off running yeah i mean it's not it's it's the again i'm i like what you said for him starting so late in boxing and having the run that he did, it was phenomenal. The fact that he didn't start young, as he should have, to be able to hone the elite skills of some of the professional heavyweights that have great ring IQ, that have great ring experience. Being able to have a plan A. When plan A doesn't work, there's a plan B. When plan B doesn't work, there's a plan C. Being able to fight multiple ways. Being able to fight on the inside.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Being able to fight at range. Being able to fight at a distance. He didn't have all those different tools in his bag as opposed to some of the other. But at that point, it's too late because you are who you are
Starting point is 00:20:07 at one point. When you get to a certain point, you are who you are. Certain skills. Especially when you had that one dynamite punch. And when you had that one dynamite punch, how reluctant are you to learn other tools to add to your repertoire
Starting point is 00:20:20 to make you a better boxer? But what happens if he had an amateur background and he really knew how to sit that punch up? Oh. Oh. And he'll be nasty.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Wait, what would happen if he had the footwork and the boxing killing movement of some of the other heavyweights? Or the... Hold on. How about the defense? The defense.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Like a fury. the head movement the positioning oh man man he'd be nasty but what he did have he did great for sure he had a great he had a great run I just don't want to see it in me but it needs to end before you before you see
Starting point is 00:21:02 him you know you see him in slobbering and you see him in a wheelchair and people helping him around. You don't want that. Okay. Let it go. I understand. Nobody let,
Starting point is 00:21:11 you know, let him go out on the shields. Really? Do y'all see how some of these boxes are? I don't know if that people, but I've gone to autograph signing and I've seen some of the old boxers and I saw, I see how they look.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. No, don't let him go out on the shield. He's had enough. He should have made enough money. Go home before they start. Okay. The next time they might be releasing doves
Starting point is 00:21:37 and people eating turkey and dressing and you won't know nothing about it, Ocho. You know, they released doves at a funeral. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah, I know what you mean, but I want to see him going on top. They can get him an easy fight. Nobody wants to see him now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He look bad. He's look bad for his last fight, Ocho. He look bad. How many times... Ocho, how many times you gonna go see a comedian? He might have had a great run, but every time you go see him lately, that man, he ain't what he used to be. He ain't what he used to be.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He ain't what he used to be. Well, maybe he needs to play. It's not the arena. It's the jokes. Certain comedians, Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac, whether they're at a YMCA or they're selling out staples, they funny. Cat,ples. They funny. Cat, they funny.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah. It doesn't matter. The venue doesn't change. Adele, you can put her at the Hollywood Bowl. You can put her at wherever she's at, Caesars. You can put her in Wembley Stadium. That voice is going to boom. Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke, Donny Hathaway, Teddy Pendergrass.
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Starting point is 00:24:55 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Go ahead and say it now, but Bobby Womack, get it out. It doesn't matter. Certain guys, certain people, when you good, it does not matter. Yeah. No matter what environment, no matter what surrounding you put them in, you get what you get. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Damn, I hate that, though. Well, maybe you can get it. You might get it, Mocho. What? Y'all about the same size. You say you 215? You say you 215? You say you 215? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:25:50 How you drop 30 pounds in this conversation? You tell me. Listen, if there's a fight to do, Jake Paul need to let me fill in for Mike Tyson so they ain't got to cancel that goddamn fight. That's what they need to do. What you think? As a matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:26:05 you could be ringside and we could do nightcap right after the fight. Well, we be going now because they're only going two minute rounds. I'll say, you know what? Hey, in the five minutes, Ocho and I be going live with nightcap after this first round. If he wakes up. No.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Nah, I'm going to be straight. I'm going to be straight. You got to think now. Since my last fight, I didn't been in the goddamn gym three years straight now. And not just training with anybody, training with the best. Derrick James, Ronnie Shields. Let me finish now. Let me, stay with me.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Coach Gary out there in Tampa. Coach Gary, I know you're going to see this. I've been training with the best. Out there with Bozianis. I've been out there with Boots for about six months straight Caleb Plant I've continuously been taking it serious so they understood I wasn't trying to take
Starting point is 00:26:51 I wasn't trying to make a mockery of their sport I was taking it as serious as I could and I mean listen I thought you told me you was 215 Deontay Wildway 214 at the fight so y'all perfect size no I'm about right now I'm about 190 used 215. Deontay Wild weighed 214 at the fight, so y'all perfect size.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Right now, I'm about 190. How you done lost 25 pounds since we started this conversation? Oh, because I've been training for soccer. Oh, you must be on that Zippy. What's that? Majorno. You taking Majorno. What you on? What is Majorno? That new Hollywood
Starting point is 00:27:23 diet they take you that that insulin drug well i'm from i'm listen oh i'm from liberty city man you know i don't know about no uh i ain't never seen nobody lose weight like you did i mean it don't take you it don't take me long to get that weight off get that muscle off it wasn't number muscle you know muscle burn fast especially you remember you gotta think now i play 11 v 11 full football field you know 11 v 11 soccer man that there all that muscle come off there I look good though
Starting point is 00:27:49 I look good hey but hey but hey tell tell Netflix tell Jake man they ain't got to cancel that fight now you know hey sugar sugar sugar getting that thing real quick man
Starting point is 00:28:01 two eight rounds two minutes let it go how many you don't see that man slap people. You don't see him slap people. Nate Robinson. He got Nate on dialysis. I ain't trying to yell at... You need to have a little bit more belief in your boy, man.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Nah, I got belief in you. This is what you good at right here. Did you see what he did to Tyron Woodley? Oh, I ain't Tyron Woodley. I'm Ochoa. Yeah, okay. And they constantly... Hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Stay with me now. I ain't Nate Robinson, but I'm Ochoa, bro. When you don't have skills in that genre, see, again, you picking that up in your 30s. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, wait, wait. I ain't got skills in what genre? Hold on, wait.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Let me finish now. I've been fighting since 68. I've been fighting since 68. I've been fighting since 68. How many times you see them guys that talk about them street fighters and they fight somebody that fight for real? What happened to them?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a different ballgame. That's my point. That's a different ballgame. But that ain't got nothing to do with me. That's what I'm saying. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Hey, you know, you saw how we just talked about you can put a certain individual in any environment and they gonna show up Bobby Wilcox, Mark McGay now you put me in any environment I'm gonna give you what you're looking for now
Starting point is 00:29:16 now I ain't gonna take off running if you pay $75 for a ticket I always gave people their money's worth just give me that chance. That's all I need. Didn't he fight, he fought somebody else. No,
Starting point is 00:29:28 it's okay, Ocho. It's okay. That's not your genre. That's not your level. I mean, hey. Hey, it's my genre. It's my genre.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I've been fighting all my life. Matter of fact, in this house right now, in this house right now, sometimes I got to walk through this door. I got to fight.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I got to fight. I got to fight. No. Every day I leave the house, it's a fight. Yeah. Whether it's mentally, it never, sometimes it's not even physical. Sometimes it's a mental fight. Oh, hey, that's my dog. Okay, well, how he look?
Starting point is 00:30:00 He been fighting all his life. How he look, though? He look straight. He look straight. Matter of fact, hey, you know what? Let me tell you how long I've been fighting all his life how he look though he look straight he look straight matter of fact hey you know what you should look at the
Starting point is 00:30:07 let me tell you how long I've been fighting though look at the videos when I did the backyard fight with Kimbo Slice and Jorge Masvidal I was at I was in high school
Starting point is 00:30:17 like that fight with him in Hialeah in Opa-Locka in the backyard and then what happened when he got into the ring well it's a different it's a different environment.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Again, remember the tools and the tutelage it takes to fight in a structured environment starts as an adolescent. Okay, you didn't start as an adolescent. Yeah, I did. I just told you I've been fighting since 68.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Look here. Man, can we at least get to one year? Can we get to the one-year anniversary of the nightcap? Well, are we going to get there? Hey, just imagine this, right? Imagine this. Me come out with a nightcap robe, right? Right, with a nightcap on my trunks.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Uncle Nocho on the hey Uncle Nocho on the bottom you know hey and I come out that thing bouncing with the old school
Starting point is 00:31:11 Marvin Hagler tassels on my shoes yeah and I shock the world be like god damn boy we know that boy Ocho move like that
Starting point is 00:31:19 but he still got the feet yeah I got the feet boy and the head movement and the head movement and I'm to throw a little Emmanuel Augustus in there, too. Man, stop playing.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm going to be in that thing slipping and dodging and countering and catching. Man, boy, my defense so slick right now, too. I'm telling you. And listen, the next time I get a fight and people see me like boy
Starting point is 00:31:45 Osho what you been doing all I'ma say is I would like to thank this gonna be my speech this gonna be my speech I'd like to thank Jerron Boots Ennis I'd like to thank
Starting point is 00:31:57 Kayla Plant I'd like to thank the Charlo Twins I'd like to thank Bud Crawford I'd like to thank Shakur Stevenson I'd like to thank Javante Davis I'd like to thank bud crawford i'd like to thank shakur stevenson i'd like to
Starting point is 00:32:05 thank giovante davis i would like to thank all of them for allowing me to be a part of their camps throughout the last three years they have helped me get to what they helped me get to the point that you've seen today and then from that point on then i'm gonna take on a professional career for over 40 fighters oh joe What do you think about that? Because you have being able to see those punches coming. I saw Ray coming, didn't I?
Starting point is 00:32:33 That's why you read it. That's why you read it. It dropped like a sack of potatoes. No, you didn't. And you read to him. He didn't even see you. Just imagine if he'd have dipped his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, hey, he wasn't looking. He wasn't looking. But you got to understand. You got to understand the laws of gravity. I understand physics. Now, what people always laugh at me about that little clip, what they don't understand is that I tripped over my shoelace right before contact. Now, if you understand physics and you understand the laws of gravity,
Starting point is 00:33:08 the low man wins. So I lost the trajectory, right? I can't even say the word right. Yeah, so they already know. So they know it's a lie. I was here. So I was here, right? And I stepped on my shoelace right before contact.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I was going to go into right, right? And when I stepped on my shoelace, before contact. I was going to go into right, right? And when I stepped on my shoelace, it caused me to raise up a little bit because I started stumbling forward. So I raised up a little bit. That's what allowed him to go right through me. He didn't even see you.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I know. It's not about him seeing me. So it's like he's a Mack truck. He weighed like 270, 260. So I had no leverage. I had no leverage to stop the force that was him coming at me. That man, all he doing is he looking at the running back.
Starting point is 00:33:52 He looking at the running back. He got to get the running back on the rim, Rob. And you run into him and that man dropped you. Yeah, but I just explained to you the laws of physics on why I lost. You ain't got no bricks in your backpack. I ain't need no bricks for your back pocket.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I ain't need no bricks. The only bricks I need is right here. Look at this. You ain't got enough ass, Ocho. This is waggle beef muscle. Or whatever they call it. The boxing match between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson was postponed after Tyson's medical scare this week.
Starting point is 00:34:27 The fight, initially slated for July 20th at AT&T Stadium in Dallas, has been postponed. Most valuable promotion says the new date will be announced next Friday. Tyson, unfortunately, due to my ulcer flare-up, I have been advised by my doctor to lighten up my training for a few weeks to rest and recover. Paul added, I fully support postponing the event. So Mike Tyson has no excuses. Come fight night. My fans know I don't want to be,
Starting point is 00:34:51 I don't want to face Iron Mike at anything, but it's best 58. Okay. But let there be no mistake. When he steps into the ring with me, I'll be ready to claim my dove with a sensational finish. Paul versus Tyson will be one for the ages. I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:08 I like it. I mean, I like it. I just don't like the fact that they're postponing the date. Again, if you need someone to fill in, I mean, I'm right here. They don't. I'm right here. I'm just saying, I'm just saying if they
Starting point is 00:35:23 do, because they're going to see this. I mean, if they do, you know, I'm right here. I'm right here. I'm just saying if they do, because they're going to see this. I mean, if they do, you know, I'm right here. I'm telling you. Tell you, they want to put your boy in that thing. I can feel it. I'm telling you. You feel me? I turn them things over better than Ryan Garcia. You hear me? I turn them things over like, I turn them things over better than Ryan Garcia. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:35:48 And I don't take nothing but GDM. My hand like lightning. I don't take nothing but GDM. Goddamn McDonald's. They're not Big Macs, Chicken Nuggets, all out you. Bad Chicken Nuggets be coming all out your trunks
Starting point is 00:36:05 Hey It's one thing I won't do It's one thing I won't do and that's I won't embarrass I won't embarrass you I won't embarrass Nightcap I won't embarrass our fans
Starting point is 00:36:16 I won't embarrass our followers I won't embarrass the people I'm changing my name You get knocked out I'm changing my name Nah I'm not I'm name nah I'm not I'm not
Starting point is 00:36:27 it's not going to happen not no more I'm going to be the football player formerly known as Shannon Sharp hey but listen I'm excited again I know I'm playing around but what Jake Paul has done as far as submerging himself in combat sports and making a name for himself without making a mockery of it, I know a lot of people don't like it. He's found his niche.
Starting point is 00:36:55 He's found something that he's fallen in love with. People paying to see it. And people paying to see it. And now at this point, people that don't like him, they paying to see him lose. And you got some people paying to see him win You know, and now at this point, people that don't like him, they paying to see him lose. And you got some people paying to see him win. Yeah, but you paying. And I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm happy for him. I like what he's doing. And I wish him nothing but continued success, you know, on his venture. But again, if you need a feeling and Mike can't go,
Starting point is 00:37:23 just let me know. No, I think they're good. Just let me know. I think they're good. I think they're good. We try to get, just let me know. No, I think they're good. Let me know. I think they're good. I think they're good. We try to get, we try to get,
Starting point is 00:37:29 look, we try to get, I don't know how many shows we did this year. I think we're going to probably be by the time September roll around. What would be probably how many shows we do? How many? We probably be at 200 shows. That's it.
Starting point is 00:37:41 We've been doing four to five a week. So we're going to be over 200. We got, we got, we got to triple that. Yeah, well, you better get out of here. Listen, 28, by the time 2025, we need like 1,000 shows. Man, you got your damn mind. 1,000 shows. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So if anything, we do, listen, we could do 1,000 shows. We just shorten the time. Shorten the time. We do two hours. That's what we do. Nah, we do three. Nah, we do two. I'd be trying to get in there,
Starting point is 00:38:11 but you'd be telling a story about how you boxed it and you fight it and you'd be... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, you got to see my defense. Now you're going to be surprised.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You'd be like, well, why you look like that three years ago? So I've been working. I've been working. I've been working. All I need is an opportunity to show off.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Ocho, you making good money. Ocho, we making good money, Ocho. Listen, you know what's funny? That's why you should know. It ain't even about the money. No, Ocho. It's about having the ability to show the work
Starting point is 00:38:42 that I put in the past three years and the improvement. But see what's going to happen. No, you don't believe it. You don't believe it. You're not gonna believe it until you see it. You're gonna be getting mad with real like this here. What's that? You're gonna be in a wheelchair. Trust me, that's not happening, man.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You don't play combat sports. Oh, I know that. I know that. I know that. Trust me, that's not happening, man. My defense is good, man. Ocho, you don't play play combat sports. Oh, I know that. I know that. I know that. That's the first rule. That's rule number one. That's what you learn as soon as you walk in the door. I know that. You don't play it. That's why I'm taking this serious.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And I'm telling you, put me in the ring. No. I'm telling you, I got this. Man, Bozy in there still taught me the Philly shell too. Ooh, hezy Ennis taught me to Philly Shell, too. Ooh, he taught me how to relax. But here's the thing. The thing is that, yeah, they can teach it to you, but what happens when you get touched?
Starting point is 00:39:34 I'm executing it. I stay relaxed. I done got touched. No, you ain't got touched. Stay relaxed. You ain't got touched. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Where you at? Man, get up off me man I'm catching I'm catching everything I'm hey I'm sitting in the pocket too like you know how my first fight
Starting point is 00:39:50 I was doing all that running around because I didn't know how to I didn't know how to act when punches was flying at me because I'm not used to it and you're still not nah
Starting point is 00:39:57 man I ain't going I'm like she cool I ain't even going nowhere well go ahead and fight Le'Veon Bell Le'Veon Bell I think you and Le'Veon yeah tell Le'Veon let's go man what Bell at tell Le'Veon let. Le'Veon Bell. I think you and Le'Veon. Yeah, tell Le'Veon let's go, man. What Bell at?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Tell Le'Veon let's get in that thing. That's a Pittsburgh. That's a Cincinnati. That's a, ooh, yeah. AFC North. You get the rivalry going back. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. That'd be a good one. Me and Le'Veon in that thing, man. You touch him up real quick. Turn that 26 into 62 real quick. Pop, pop, pop, pop. Okay. What else we got before we get into the rest of the show let's take a look yes at the promo for bad boys the summer begins with bad boys will smith and martin lawrence return to the big screen with their signature swagger and hilarious banner but this time there's a twist miami finest are now
Starting point is 00:40:42 its most wanted mistakenly accused of breaking the law, they suddenly must go on the run to clear their names with both the police and the cartels after them what they're going to do. Bad Boys Ride or Die is must-see comedy event of the summer, and I'm personally so stoked to see Will and Martin comedic chemistry back on the big screen. Audience from earlier screenings are raving about Bad Boys. Ride or Die is the best Bad Boys yet. And this film raises the bar in every way. Bad Boys Ride or Die is exclusively in movie theaters next Thursday, June 6th. Tickets are on sale now.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Rated R. You're not going to want to miss this. Yes, yes. Monday, we're going to have the trailer and we're going to have an interview with Will and Martin. So make sure you tune in Monday night. We'll have the trailer and we'll have the interview. Well, Ocho and I, we sat down with Martin and Will to discuss Band Boy 4.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So Ocho, we do it. He's here to do it. Ocho, we do it. Yeah. Yeah. We do.
Starting point is 00:41:42 We do. I like it. I like it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. That's what we doing. I like it. I like it. We doing our thing. We the podcast to the stars. That's what we do. Yeah. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:41:50 All right, Ocho. It's time for the Soccer Cap with Ocho Real Madrid won the Champions League final 2-0. Ocho, take off. Listen, for those of you that love the game of soccer, for those of you that love the beautiful game, for those of you who have been waiting for the Champions League final today, three o'clock. It was a great one. It was a great one. It was one that I thought Dortmund should have won first half.
Starting point is 00:42:15 They had chance after chance after chance after chance and just couldn't find the back of the net. Too many chances. And I said at the halftime, if Dortmund does not score, which they didn't score at the half, I said that Real Madrid magic that always happens in the 70th, 80th, the 90th minute or extra time is going to bite him in the ass. And what happened?
Starting point is 00:42:40 It bit him in the ass. Oh, excuse me. It bit him in the ass. I thought you were going to say bit him in the butt. You said that. You said, excuse me, didn't bit him in the ass. So I excuse me. It bit him in the ass. I thought you were going to say bit him in the butt. You said ass. You said excuse me, then bit him in the ass.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So I thought you were going to go with butt. I still curse anyway. Okay, go ahead. My bad. Danny Carvajal heads in a corner. Quiet, quiet.
Starting point is 00:43:02 My bad. My bad. I got all the kids here too. My bad. Hey, Danny Carvajal scores a header. What, baby? Come here, come here. quiet quiet my bad my kid my kid I got all the kids here too my bad hey Danny Carvajal scores a header what baby come here come here come on daddy daddy's working come here
Starting point is 00:43:11 hey Carvajal scores a beautiful beautiful beautiful header say hi to Unk say hi to Unk say hi no are you gonna say say something no Say hi. No? Are you going to say something? No?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Okay, there we go. Thank you. Hey, Vinicius on the baseline. Beautiful. Another corner. Another goal. Real Madrid wins. Wait, let me see.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Let me see. This is nine. this is their, they won nine straight UCL finals that they played in. They haven't lost a UCL final in 43 years. This is the first ever undefeated UCL campaign from Real Madrid. And you know what the bad thing about it is? No, come on, come here. You know what the bad thing about it is? Is Real come on, come here. You know, the bad thing about it is,
Starting point is 00:44:05 is Real Madrid next year. They get Mbappe. Yeah. Mbappe is leaving PSG and coming to Real Madrid. So basically if you're a gambling man, I would bet Real Madrid, Real Madrid, Real Madrid to win Champions League again.
Starting point is 00:44:23 It was a really good game. But again, I think it's all Dortmund's fault. It's all Dortmund's fault because they had so many chances in the first half to kind of put the game not away, but at least give them enough room to even if Real Madrid scored those two goals
Starting point is 00:44:38 they would have won the game. But unfortunately, they didn't do it, right? Yeah. Say yeah? Yeah. but unfortunately they didn't do it right yeah say yeah yeah dennis schruder is trading the hardwood for a pitch this offseason he suited up with a professional soccer debut with the fc germana whatever they're called the sixth tier german soccer team schruder brother-in-law played for the team and got him connected with the club and he's using it in a way conditioning ahead of the Summer Olympics. Trudeau grew up playing soccer before
Starting point is 00:45:07 transitioning to basketball, so he's not new to the pitch and can clearly hold his own if he's getting playing time. Hey, Dennis, I know you're going to see this boy. You look so goddamn smooth, really composed, really relaxed on the ball. He looks like he's done it
Starting point is 00:45:23 before. You can tell he played as a little kid. And this is a good way, a very, very good way to keep you in shape. The only problem is if you have any muscle mass, any type of muscle, you're losing everything.
Starting point is 00:45:35 As far as your lower extremities, oh, he's going to be in phenomenal shape. He's going to be in phenomenal shape. So he's going to be fine. But he looks really good. Obviously, it's a small sample size. But even with a small sample size, you know, if you're a scout, you know, you can see something and just know, you know what? Okay, he can play.
Starting point is 00:45:50 That's exactly what Dennis Schroeder looked like. Nice, comfortable. Look how relaxed he is on the ball. Yeah, he's been there before. He's been there before. I like it. I like it. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:46:04 We'll get revenge. We're we gonna beat the brakes off them Germans we beating the brakes off everybody we bringing the gold home Slovenia I think Slovenia gotta qualify uh and uh uh Jokic where is your Jokic from Jokic is uh Serbia
Starting point is 00:46:20 we got some for all y'all the French too Wimbinyana Wimbinyama uh uh uh uh all y'all we got Rudy Gobert we got some for all y'all the French too Wimbinyama all y'all we got Rudy Gobert we got some for you too so you got USA we gonna beat the brakes off them wait the brakes or we gonna win
Starting point is 00:46:39 brakes we ain't losing nothing let me ask the baby baby are going to beat the brakes off everybody? Yep. Okay. Exactly. You know what's up. We got something for them. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
Starting point is 00:47:10 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. afternoon, is that how you say her name? Put her shoulder into Kaitlyn Clark.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah. The referees rebooted the incident but not upgraded to a flagrant or technical. They did, however, Dean, get away from the play, foul because it happened before the ball was in. After the game, Carter refused to answer questions on what happened.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Indiana general manager Lynn Dunn was among those frustrated. Dunn tweeted, the difference between tough defense and unnecessary targeting action, it needs to stop. The league needs to clean this crap up. This is not who the league is. Absolutely. All this notion. Now, there are
Starting point is 00:49:57 some people the last couple of weeks, and I ain't going to call your name, but you're going to see this, and I'm talking to you. What are they supposed to do? Let her score? They're trying to see this and I'm talking to you. What are they supposed to do? Let her score? They're trying to win. That's not basketball. Angel Reese getting tangled up?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Angel Reese trying to block her out and she hip checks her to the ground? That's basketball. That's bull jive. That's Bush League. Now, you woman enough to check the woman and she ain't got the ball but you ain't woman enough to answer questions and you wonder why i don't give a damn what anybody says they're mad at these young girls that came in sorry about that lady they're mad at britney uh caitlyn clark they're mad at angel reese because they're the bird in magic and they're getting the attention instead of being like man
Starting point is 00:50:45 more people are talking more people think about it the game that the Las Vegas Aces played against with Caitlin Clark the tickets were triple back a regular season game than what they were in the finals
Starting point is 00:51:02 now you tell me what that is yeah you right look what they're having the finals. Now you tell me what that is. Yeah. You're right. Look what they're having to move the games to. They're moving games, putting them on big time situations. You're jealous. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That was a Bush league play and it needs to be addressed. That was a flagrant foul. That was unnecessary. Flagrant anything deemed to be unnecessary. I need somebody to explain to me why was that necessary yeah i mean it wasn't necessary i'm not sure why she did it i don't know if they were going at it what they gotta do we going at it i mean no i'm i'm just saying going at it throughout the game you know how i get chirpy between players i'm not sure there might have been an incident that might have happened early in the game but either so you
Starting point is 00:51:44 you can't you can't do that that's happened early in the game. But either so, you can't do that. That's not part of the game. Again, playing physical, playing physical is okay. Playing physical is fine. Having hard fouls is okay. But doing that when the ball hasn't even been rebounded in is unnecessary. It's unnecessary and it's uncalled for. But what Kaitlin Clark and Angel Reese have done is they have a new set
Starting point is 00:52:06 of eyes. They have a new set of a different demographic now watching. They have other people watching and joined in WNBA games. I myself have been tuned in and enjoying them as well. When we get a little break, I'm going to do a little
Starting point is 00:52:21 traveling, a little hopping from city to city to catch some of these games. So it's exciting. It's exciting, and I'm excited for the WNBA and its players. But that play there, nah, we can't be doing that. We can't be doing that. That's not exciting. All this notion, oh, the league was going.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Tell me when the last time all these players been in the league all this time. You name all the prominent players, tell me the time the WNBA has had this much buzz. I'll wait. Everybody in the chat, that y'all was saying, oh, these women been in the league before Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. Tell me the time
Starting point is 00:52:52 they had this much buzz. Tell me the time they had this many eyes on the draft. Tell me this many times they had watching WNBA preseason game. I'm just waiting. Go ahead, Phil. Go ahead, Chad.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Take off. So, I mean, obviously, I'm new to the WNBA this year I've known all the players obviously by name because they are household names before Kaelin Clark and Angel Reese came in so are you saying that the buzz around the WNBA wasn't the same as it is now I'm asking you because I don't know
Starting point is 00:53:20 I'm just being honest no no everybody knows it that's just like saying oh the NBA they were great players because I don't know. No, no, no. Everybody knows it. That's just like saying, oh, the NBA, they were great players before Lab Bird and Magic Johnson. They didn't get this buzz when they got there, did it?
Starting point is 00:53:33 And then Michael Jordan took it to another level. And the same thing, they took cheap shots on Michael Jordan. They froze him out of the All-Star game. So this is not unique.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Wait, wait. They took cheap shots on Michael? Yes, they did. And they froze him out of the All-Star game to win passing is not unique. Wait, wait. Yes, they did. And they froze him on the All-Star game. They wouldn't pass him the ball. Come on, man. What you mean wouldn't pass Mike the ball? Go back and look it up. You did that?
Starting point is 00:53:56 That's what started. That kind of started the situation. With Isaiah and them. Oh, so that stuff with Isaiah, Thomas, and Mike, that's real. All I'm saying, I want you to go back. I want to know if somebody, and purposely, no play,
Starting point is 00:54:13 ran into the back of Donna Taurasi, ran into the side of Maya Moore, ran into the side of Candace Parker. I'm not saying the ball not even being inbounds. I'm not talking about a basketball play. I saw what Alyssa Thomas did to what you call them. Was it unnecessary? Yes. They gave up flagrant one.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Because why? Because they deemed it excessive and unnecessary. So how is a play she's just standing there and she just runs into her. You don't deem that unnecessary. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I think they might have been going at it in the middle of the game. But Kaitlyn Clark don't look like the type of person that talk or say anything. She talk, yes. Oh, she talk? I ain't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. And I watched the whole Fever game. I watched the Aces. I mean, she will be. Oh, she talking? I ain't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And I watched the whole Fever game. I watched the Aces. I mean, not Aces. I watched the, damn, the Sky. I watched the Sky and Fever game. And I didn't notice her. I've just tried. I've just tried.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I want to know. People I know, they were great players. I go back to when the WNBA was first instituted and the Comets won the first title. And I remember all, Teaspoon and Tisha Prentice-Charrow, I remember all of them. Tina Thompson and Cynthia
Starting point is 00:55:34 Cooper and Cheryl Swoops, all of them. All of them. The WNBA has never been talked about like it has this year with the dishes of Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. They haven't had the eyeballs like they have with Caitlin Clark and Angel
Starting point is 00:55:52 Reese. It's okay to admit that. It's okay. There's a reason why they protect the quarterback. There's a reason they don't let you hit him because they know what's important. Right. Y'all better understand what's laying the golden
Starting point is 00:56:11 eggs for you young ladies so you guys get the benefits, so you get the rise now. Don't cut your nose off the spite of your face. Don't do that. Hey, I just know the motherfucking goddamn game is exciting.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I got my WNBA gear. I got my WNBA jerseys too. I'm ready. I'm ready. Ain't no babying. Cause the suit is... Y'all think that's QO. Y'all got to toughen up.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Man, you let somebody run. What you think will happen if LeBron's just standing there and somebody ran into the side of him or Steph Curry, one of these big NBA stars? What would you think would happen, Ocho? Suspend it. Come on, man. Stop it. Reap the benefits.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm not saying you don't go out there and compete. That's what you do. You compete. And sometimes there are going to be hard fouls. If she had the benefits. I'm not saying you don't go out there and compete. That's what you do. You compete. And sometimes there are going to be hard fouls. If she had the ball, okay, that was a hard foul. But the girl's standing there. Second of all, it's easy to knock somebody, oh, she flopped. Bro,
Starting point is 00:57:18 if you're just standing there, that's why if you're walking and somebody sticks you almost trip. Man, you've played. No no because I wasn't expecting it right I just don't get it I don't tell me what they get out of this
Starting point is 00:57:32 I get it she came in and she got a few deal I get it Gatorade I get it safe I get it Ocho it's natural we're human she ain't dribbling. What is Ocho? You remember when we first got to leave?
Starting point is 00:57:47 When I got in the league? Yeah. Rookies come in getting that big money. He ain't even throwing NBA ball. He ain't throwing NFL football. Kayla Clark ain't never shot a WNBA basketball except in workouts. She ain't had one game. She got a shoe deal.
Starting point is 00:58:01 She got a state farm commercial. She got Gatorade. And there's no telling how many local endorsements she got in indiana but you know i don't i do you think something like that will even bother the other players how many of them got shoe deals ocho sabrina anescu got one but and now caitlyn clark got one and they just gave one to asia wilson asia wilson just got a shoe deal after Kaitlyn Clark. Asia Wilson, a two-time league MVP, a finals MVP, a rookie of the year, a two-time defensive player of the year, a gold medal.
Starting point is 00:58:36 You want me to go home? No. Listen, this is all new to me. I like it. The WNBA is exciting. I told you how that goddamn environment was when I went to Atlanta. So I'm looking forward to, obviously,
Starting point is 00:58:53 going to other states and just enjoying the game now that I know a little bit more about basketball, learning the names, so I can talk about the WNBA a little bit more. I'm a watch. I like the women. I used to love the Comets.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I met Cheryl. I was at an event for it might have been a Nike event during the Super Bowl and I met Cheryl many, many years ago. And so, you know, I follow it. I follow it. I like it. I met, as a matter of fact, I met Donna Taurasi before
Starting point is 00:59:28 she got drafted back in 2000. I think she might have got drafted in 2004. Met her and a couple of homegirls at the NBA All-Star game when it was in Denver. It was in 2005 because I retired and then 2005. So it was 2005.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I met her. Great. Just it was 2005. I met her. Great. Just saw her. We just saw her. Where do we see her? Out here at the studio. At first date. Great.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Love DT. Love her. I don't know a whole lot of the other ones. Met Maya Moore once. She had an event going on in Atlanta at Lifetime Fitness. So I'm all for it. And I want what's best for the game. I want it to grow.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And I think these two individuals can help it grow. It's going to bring a new set of eyeballs. It's going to bring a younger generation. I'm embracing it. But I tell you what, had that been at Leo Boston, you're the number one pick.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Don't let them girls do your girl like that. Ain't no way in hell you're going to cheap shot my quarterback. You're not going to cheap shot nobody on my team. I'm going to get your ass back. That means Leah Boston would have to become the enforcer. I'm going to come whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Guess what? Oh, Joe, you know how you can put elbows on somebody's head in basketball? Oh, my bad. My bad. Oh, you're not finna do my teammate like that. We gonna get you back. Man, such and such. Cheat shot at me. What's his number? If he on special
Starting point is 01:00:55 team, homeboy. Oh, we gonna get your ass back. You hit John in the back, if he done throw the ball, don't worry about it. I bet you'd be like a cock roast before that quarter over. Feet up in the air, on his back. Because we're going to roll your ass up. Or I'm going to get you back.
Starting point is 01:01:16 That's just my team. I'm definitely going to get your ass back if you do that to me. But if there's going to be enforcing, and I'm sure every WNBA team has an enforcer, most of the time it's probably a veteran, long as they do things
Starting point is 01:01:31 within the rules and within the frame of the game, I'm all for it. I'm going to get you. Was that in the frame of the game? Was that in the frame of the game? So when are you allowed to hit a player?
Starting point is 01:01:44 No, it wasn't in the frame of the game, So when are you allowed to hit a player? No, it wasn't in the frame of the game, but what you don't want to do is you don't want to affect your team and get yourself thrown out of the game. Don't worry about it. I've got to send a message. Because what did they do? They sent a message.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Send a message. I've got to send a message. We ain't going to tolerate this because right now they're doing this because they're going on without repercussions. Yeah. Okay, you're right. You're right. You they're going on without repercussions. Yeah. Okay,
Starting point is 01:02:08 you're right. You're right. You're right. When you say it like that. You have a deal with us at some point in time. I'm going to stop it. Right. Because people don't stop. Just like the bully. As long as you show up every day with 75 cents and you allow the bully to take it, he ain't stopping on his own.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah. You got to take it, he ain't stopping on his own. Yeah. You got to stop it. Leah Boston, don't let them do your girl. Don't let them do your home girl like that. Yeah. No, sir. That ain't going to fly. That ain't going to fly. Matter of fact, Matt, you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Boy, I wish I could be a boy. Remember at LSU, someone, I think, pushed Andrew Reese or knocked her down or something? Yeah, Mr. Thompson. And who was that that came? Somebody came to the show.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Came to a defense. I'm talking about and shoved the girl. That's what you should do. That's what you should do. And here's the thing. That play was unnecessary because it was a the head and shoulder
Starting point is 01:03:05 areas, which is what you play. So anything that's unnecessary above the shoulders, don't get you. But you know, she goes like, well, I was just trying to box out and my hand got a little carried away. I'm just trying to figure out how she explained that. Well, I thought she had the ball.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Ball wasn't even inbound. Right. I guarantee they were chirping throughout the game that's alright oh I like that I guarantee they were chirping throughout the game that's why you tell us how we gonna do this thing today
Starting point is 01:03:35 we gonna snap the whistle or snap after the whistle I just need to know all I wanna do is know so if we gonna be dirty ain't no sense in one of us being dirty and the other being clean. Let's both get dirty.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah. I mean, if you lay down with a pig, you'll get muddy. I like playing in the mud when I was a kid. So even as an adult, Ocho said, this is a kid's game.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Okay. If it's a kid game, I played in the mud. I'm not finna let you cheap shot one of my teammates and get away with it. Not if I see it or if he tell me about it. He might have lied.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'm gonna get your ass back. And if you cheap shot me, you best believe I'm gonna get your ass back. Cause I'm gonna make it look like it was a play. Man, come on, Sharp. That's unnecessary. So what you did? Two wrongs don't make a right.
Starting point is 01:04:25 They don't make a left either. Hey, you what you did. Two wrongs don't make a right. They don't make a left either. Hey, you know what? But what's funny is with all the stuff going on, the stuff with Caitlin Clark, the stuff with Angel Reese, Asia Wilson, like the WNBA now that I'm paying attention. I'm sure everybody else that's always been locked in on it. Like now I'm seeing it everywhere. It's probably already been everywhere.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Obviously, I was just missing it because I wasn't paying attention to it before. But now there's a certain aura and excitement around it. Watching the highlights. It just, it just, it's just different now.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And I'm happy, I'm happy for them. Y'all keep, oh, what about this time when this girl did this to fly? What about this time? No, don't do that. Don't do that. Y'all try to paint this narrative,
Starting point is 01:05:11 and I know what it is. I know who I am. I'm not going to let y'all... For the longest time, for about three months, I let people almost define who and what I did. Oh, you don't support black women.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Don't worry about it. You say you didn't need no man, so you don't need my support. Oh, now you't support black women. Don't worry about it. You say you didn't need no man, so you don't need my support. Oh, now you need my support? Hold on. I thought you didn't need no man. Oh. Oh. Oh. So
Starting point is 01:05:35 which is it? You want my support or you don't? Oh. My resume speaks for itself. But I'm not going to let y'all. Look, I call out right and wrong. You see, as Kat said, color is not where the line is drawn. Right and wrong is where the line is drawn.
Starting point is 01:05:55 If you wrong and you black, you wrong. If you white and you wrong, you wrong. That's where the line gets drawn. Not color, right and wrong. If I see right, if a black person does right, I'm going to say they did right. If they did wrong, I'm going to say that. I've always said that. Y'all know it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I got a lawsuit pending now with Brent Favre. Why? Why? Because I said what I said. Oh, you don't say, all you do is talk about Antonio Brown. Brent Favre did that, you ain't say nothing. Bro, I've spent half a million dollars over nothing?
Starting point is 01:06:41 But see, that's what y'all say. That's why, Ocho, that's why I say you got to be careful because people on social media is very influential that's why people keep saying things on social media because people go there's a reason why they have influencers one person takes off with it, and they take off and run. Yeah. Now, I promised myself, promised my family, my sister, my kids, had to say, look,
Starting point is 01:07:12 daddy's going to the next level. There are going to be some things said about daddy that's going to be not true. Not even in the slightest. But as long as y'all are okay, that it could weather any storm. Because Mary Porter had three,
Starting point is 01:07:30 built three the hard way. Sharon Sharp, Sterling Sharp, and Shannon Sharp had by Mary Alice Dix, or Sharp, built by Mary Porter. So all that other stuff y'all say, I get it, get it, get your laugh.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. We're going to have another conversation in about five years. I want y'all to have that same conversation. I want y'all to have them same thing. Now, don't be mad. There's some stuff going on. I ain't saying nothing about it. But don't be mad when you see it.
Starting point is 01:08:02 But I know what you're going to say. Oh, he had to do something. He had to do something to get that job, O do something he had to do something to get that job oh joe he had to do something to do that i know it's coming so i'm just gonna go and prepare you because they're gonna ask you oh joe you if man oh gay he man how he get all these jobs how he get all these opportunities i'm just go ahead and prepare you for it i'm preparing you for it, Ocho. But it's coming. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you're getting jobs, shit, I'm getting jobs too. What you, what you?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah, okay. I don't know where we going, but I'm going to, shit. We got some things, we got some things, we got some things in the iron, in the fire, in the fire. I know, I know. Listen, I know we cooking. I know we cooking. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:08:49 But see, here's the thing. The chat keep at you to have that same energy. See? See? I just watched the show. I said Alyssa Thomas' shot was unnecessary. But hold on, Ocho. You remember when they got drafted?
Starting point is 01:09:03 I tweeted about Angel Reese. Well, why you ain't tweeting about the other girls? It ain't never good enough. It ain't never good enough. Oh, why you tweeting about Angel Reese? She wasn't the first pick in the draft. I didn't even mention Kate. I don't even know if I mentioned Kate LeClarke.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Did I? I mentioned Angel Reese. But, oh, oh oh why you mention her you don't like hey Rhea how you doing? did you get my message today? yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:09:32 Ashley gave me your message what you think? I ain't seen it yet I will take a look at it and I will hit on you nah stop pushing away come back in the camera come back in the screen Rhea
Starting point is 01:09:43 my hair is not done y'all gonna stop doing this for me now yeah you know I'm gonna get I'm gonna get to you alright look I'm trying I'm trying to set you up
Starting point is 01:10:00 oh I know I love success I'm addicted to success I'm talking to success. I'm talking about on the woman's side. Oh, but they need to be able to help me, you know, even become more successful. They will. They will. They'll add times a hundred.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Like I did today. Oh, yeah, you did. You did a miracle for that one right there. But, like, before y'all come, do your homework. Before y'all say, I criticized this black person and didn't criticize this white person, do your homework. Everybody that really knows me and watched me from, even when I was at CBS,
Starting point is 01:10:41 they didn't like when I called Coach Belichick out. They lost, and then he sent somebody, he sent out the punt returner, don't nobody know. When Coach Kyle was lost, he came out and addressed the media outside the locker room. When Tony Dungy lost, he came out. Rex Ryan, everybody did that except
Starting point is 01:10:58 Coach Belichick. And I called his ass out. I said, you're making it real easy to root for the opposing team when you do Bush League stuff like this. I call out right and wrong. I don't call out color because I don't give a damn what color you are. If you're right, you're right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. And I'm going to stand
Starting point is 01:11:14 on that. But go back and see what I said when Angel Reese, when Alyssa Thompson did what she did. Go back. Go back. But see, y'all don't want to do that. You're lazy. You just want to throw that out there. You put it out there. Well, Shannon don't take up for black women.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And then somebody pick it up. And then you tweet it out there. And everybody's like, I know he like white women. So I heard what the hell? But you should know. You're tweeting it. Ain't never met me. Ain't never seen me. But somebody said that Shannon likes white women.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Shannon likes women. Black, white, Dominican, Puerto Rican, African, South African. Women. That's been my problem. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:12:02 That's why I'm single. Yeah. Ain't no secret I mean hey am I a great guy am I funny can I make you laugh and get yes but you know you know I got that
Starting point is 01:12:16 sometimes I had a little farce with a guy that made me wonder you know what I'm saying it's a little lazy but it wandered you know what I'm saying? I just said, I'm just making it. It's a little lazy, but it wanders. You know what I'm saying? So, you know. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Hey, boy, you shut up. All right. You say you got that far as. That thing a little lazy, but it wanders. You know, sometimes it's, you know, you know, I'm walking straight ahead. You know what I'm saying? Damn. You know, she keep, she cracked me with a quick bow.
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