Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Wizards DRAFT AJ Dybansta + Cam Boozer RESPONDS to Not Being 1st OVERALL Pick + AJ Dybansta says He AND Trae Young WILL Work + Warriors Owner AND GM at ODDS Over DRAFT Pick + Lakers TURNING Into FOREIGN Team
Episode Date: June 24, 2026Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Wizards drafting AJ Dybansta, Carlos Boozer on not being 1st overall and AJ says him and Trae Young will work. Sub...scribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:25 - NBA 2026 Draft28:30 - Cam Boozer asked about not being in the 1st overall pick conversation51:50 - AJ Dybansta on how he and Trae Young can work together56:40 - Warriors owner and GM disagreed on what to do with their pick1:05:35 - Lakers take 6’6 guard from Spain (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The draft board,
A.J. DeBanzah,
a 6'9 forward out of
BYU, number one overall.
Darren Peterson, a 6'5
guard out of Kansas.
Number two, Cameron
Boozer, the 6'8
freshman out of Duke
goes number four, number three.
And Caleb Wilson,
the Chicago Bulls,
Caleb Wilson goes to Chicago Bull, a six foot nine freshman also.
AJ DeBonser, we watched him play.
He's unbelievable handling the ball, something that he spoke about,
that he wanted to be the number one overall draft pick.
Hey, remember Cooper Flagg was really supposed to be in this draft, Joe and Ocho.
He reclassified.
Yeah, he wouldn't have been the number one pick.
I'll tell you that.
You don't think so?
No, all I'm saying is he reclassified.
He was supposed to be in this draft.
He reclassified.
That's all I'm said.
I don't know what would.
it wouldn't happen. That's better long Joe
expertise. But when you look at AJ DeBonza,
a 6 foot 9 guy, he's going
to what seems to be a
pretty decent team. He got Tray Young
that recently resigned. We don't know what's
going to happen with AD.
It's being reported. His agent
is looking for a contract extension.
He may or may not receive, or
he may get the extension and then be traded.
We don't know. But let's talk about
DeBonza and going to the Washington
Wizard, Joe. What do you like about this move?
Man, hey, listen, I love this
move Uncle Ocho because he's a rookie coming in and playing with, you know, two arguably,
not arguably, but Hall of Famers and Anthony Davis and Trey Young.
Two guys who can make his, who can really bring out his full game.
You know what I mean?
It won't be a whole lot of pressure on him to come in and average no 25.
You know what I mean?
Even though the Wizards haven't been in the postseason in the past few years, I'm telling
y'all, I think they can make the biggest jump in the Eastern Conference.
You keep, if Trey and AD, obviously, if they can stay healthy, I think they got a great chance.
They got guys who can score the rock, who can shoot the rock, who can play make, who can defend.
And I just think AJ is a total package, bro.
We've been talking about this for a past few months.
Now, hell, the past year, everybody knew that man was going to go one.
I don't give a damn, who had the number one pick?
That man was going one.
So, great fit.
I'm happy for him.
I can't wait to see these young dudes in action.
Okay, Ocho.
You know, the summer league.
I'm gonna be down there in Vegas for the Summer League.
I got to let your boy know it.
I'll be, hey.
Hold on, hold on.
Y'all ain't gonna leave me.
I'm coming too.
Hey, don't leave me, but I'm coming.
You always talk about you gonna do something.
You ain't coming because the Summer League gonna be going to
Ocho while the
people.
The World Cup, yeah.
The World Cup.
Wait, well, hold on, Joe, win the Summer League.
What's the date?
It's always, it starts in July.
July, like July 8th, 9th, I'll wait to about like the 20th or something like that.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
I'm gonna swing through there.
Because remember that by the time it gets to July,
remember, it ain't gonna be that many games, man.
So if anything, you know,
I'm gonna come out there, chill with y'all,
check out some of the young bucks
or something they could do.
Hey, Chad, y'all hear these old two country bombs here,
talking about July.
What?
It's July.
Oh, man, here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I already know, you know, Joe,
Joe, I mean, he deep off it.
You know, y'all know Joe country.
I'm talking about like corn calm
by the outhouse country.
Yeah.
I thought, that joke?
I'm excited.
You know, watch the little bit.
Look, I tried to catch, obviously,
I tried to catch the BYU games when they're on television.
Watching him because, you know, his projections,
and I was at ESPN when he came on and declared where it was going.
I'm like, BYU, then at Donald him, hey, BYU got money to.
They got people that got money, N-I-L.
What?
He went to a prep school lot there.
So it kind of was a natural fit.
He's very familiar with that area.
Very familiar.
And hey, he's like, you know what?
They have, I think Danny Aange went the highest.
But Danny Age was also an outstanding baseball player,
got drafted, if I'm not mistaken, by the Blue Jays.
It's like, look, me going to do, me going to North Carolina.
What makes me any different than anybody else that's going there
and end up going number one overall?
Absolutely.
He wanted to be you.
A lot of times you see guys now want to be unique, Ocho and Joe.
They're like, I want to make my own legacy.
Kentucky, Kansas, dude, all these teams.
They got legacies.
Yeah.
BYU ain't really got a whole, they got Danny Age, they got Jimmer Furnett.
They got, who's the other guy from BYU,
Danny Ains, Jimmer for Dent, Sean Bradley, I think.
So it ain't a whole lot of, as far as legacy-wise, with that program.
He said, I go there.
I'm automatically a rock Mount Rushmore player.
You know, and not too many players,
especially when you that young, had that kind of confidence.
You're right?
It doesn't matter where I go to school.
The show is going to come to me.
Wherever I go, that's what I'm going to put bus in to see that.
Obviously, the bonds are understanding he's that type of player.
We really didn't matter what school I went to.
They was coming to see me regardless.
Well, listen, listen.
I wish you to witness of battle state.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, he still would have went number one.
He still would have went number one, Ojo.
You're absolutely right.
Hey, all that cute, all that's cute and fine and dandy.
But, damn it, the bag that BYU was paying, and it wasn't many teams willing to pay that.
You know, it's reported he got $7 to $8, $7 to $9 million, you know, just for that one year.
Yeah.
So, hey, hey, hey, y'all paying for me to come to prep school down here?
I'm a Utah prep.
Hold on, hold on.
Now y'all going to pay for me to go to BYU.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I thought, hey, look, I ain't going to lie.
I thought the jazz was going to try to jump through.
few hoops tonight to be able to draft him but hey man if Washington made the right pick
okay oh Joe I promise you he liked that bro and guys I think his contract is 69 million for the
four years so you know nice little rookie bag yeah yeah night look night little rookie bag
nice nice nice and you know you know the story about his father I think his father's from
the Congo yeah and because tonight I hell I just obviously I know AJ are initials but I really didn't
name and he just like he wanted he wanted to commit to introduce his name in honor of his father because he's a junior yeah i thought that i thought
that was that was very very very special uh to see these young men and and to thank all the family the
village that behind them that help push and guide them in the direction that they are and be able to
reach this achievement because this is a i mean these kids are 18 19 20 years of age and they've been
dreaming of this moment their entire lives yeah man it's it's right here in front of you and obviously
you realize I did not get here by myself.
Yeah.
This is an opportunity to thank my mom,
to thank my sister or my grandma or my mom,
excuse me, my father.
It's nice, you know what?
It's really nice to see some fathers get some center stage
because you know his mom, happy Mother's Day.
Happy birthday, Mom, happy, you know, and the day and like,
oh, what died?
Yeah.
You go, what's a time.
We go on about our business.
Yeah, well, watching the draft,
I was obviously watching the World Cup and watching the draft at the same time.
There are a lot of two-parent household kids
that got drafted this season.
I saw that.
You saw that old.
A lot of a parent household, you know, kids getting drafted.
Yeah, there's no shit.
They make a scene like we, we ain't never got no two parents in the house.
Right, right.
A bunch of two parents.
Right.
On another note, too, real quick.
Real quick, Uncle Joe.
Let DeBanzah, as great as he is, as great as he was in college
and understanding how good he's going to be, probably in Washington,
depending on how he fits in.
Now, coming out to east, can he really make a difference, you know,
in that east and get the,
and get the withers to,
maybe say the playing or maybe maybe get them to a seed and having to deal with obviously you got the
Knicks you know you got you got the heat you know who now have yonness and probably going to
have clay to wait can I say that am I let oh man come on man come on my bad my bad my bad
my bad listen oh Joe I understand what you're saying I think he is a guy look there's been a handful of rookies
who come into the league and right away take their team to the postseason I think he can be in that
group. You know what I mean? I think he got that type of talent. Not only does he have that type of talent,
but it's the guys around him. He has proven guys around him. Right. And I think that's the
difference, Joe and Ocho, is that he's not going to be asked to do what a lot of other rookies
has been asked to do. Right. He has all NBA players. He has all-star players already on that roster.
We know Trey is a 20 and 10 guy. We know AD as a 20 and 10 guy can give you three blocks,
can anchor your defense. He just needs to come in and be A.J. DeBonza.
We're not asking you to give us 25 to 30 a night.
We just, hey, give us a solid 16 to 20.
Yeah.
Efficient.
Can you do, can you do that?
If he could do, and also they got SAR,
SAR's going to need to step up and be a little bit better
because everybody keeps talking about Bronny, brawny, brawny,
and he's gone under the radar and hadn't been doing a whole lot since he arrived there.
He's going to need to be, do a little bit more, Joe, as the second pick in the entire draft.
He's going to need to step up now.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I agree, and I think this year will be that year for Saur.
Okay, Ocho, he can kind of play the background now.
It's versus, you know, when he first got there, they had him playing lead,
lead singer, hell.
He wasn't ready for that, you know what I mean?
But now he'll have a plet of guys who he can learn from who he can playoff
that will make his game a lot easier because I think what's underrated about AJ
is that not only did he lead the Division I, NCAA, and scoring,
but he did it at an efficient rate.
and like 52, 53%.
And when you got a guy,
so he ain't no guy just coming down, hosting up shots.
Like, he has great footwork.
He's not jacking up shots.
Yeah, you're right, Joe.
He know how to get to his spots.
He plays the right way.
He's an underrated passer.
He can defend with that long,
that 6-9 frame, them 7-1 wing span.
I just think he's going to fit right in.
And I think the Wizards will make one of the biggest jumps
in the Eastern Conference.
Yeah, see, they were trying to make Sard Lee singer.
He need to be on the cymbals for the tambourine.
Hey, yeah, hey, hey, no, no, no, no, we're not going to let you do the drums.
We're not going to let you do the horns.
We're not doing anything.
You should be wearing the back.
So if you mess up a key, hey, don't nobody know.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, but he's got to improve.
But I think with those three, they're that big three with the Bonza,
trade, and AD.
This is contingent on AD being there.
We don't know what their game plan is.
But I would like to think they're probably.
of having a building that's half empty.
Yeah.
At least with AD you're probably going to your house.
You know, you can win some games and get the fans to come back.
Oh, oh.
Ocho, them people come to see A.J. DeBosker, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, listen, if I'm in D.C., I have season tickets.
I'll be trying to get, I'll be trying to get my hand on them tickets, bro.
Hey, hey, Joe, you think he polarizing like that to put rust in a seat like that?
Ocho, that boy, nice, man.
And his frame, listen, and his frame is so prototypical.
for today's game at 6-9 who can do everything.
Shoot the three.
Get to the midi.
Don't get to get by you.
Finish at the rim or blow the rim.
We got nice post work, great footwork.
Like his feel for the game is unteachable.
You know what I mean?
Some guys just really have a knack or feel for the game that makes the game and it comes
easy to him.
And I think he's one of these guys, bro.
I think the game is in great hands with AJ.
I think the Wizards, you know, took the right, took the right pick.
And I'm looking forward to seeing the Wizards play this shit, bro.
Because you got to understand now, Tray just signed for $212 million.
You know what I mean?
He didn't got his bag.
Trey, congrats, bro.
Trey didn't got his bag.
So now he's going to be coming out trying to prove, you know, that he is who he say he is.
You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah, I'm trying to get another one.
Because trade, how would trade, 27, 28?
Hell, I get me another bag.
I'll be 32 and get another bag.
Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, hey, you always want to go for a little dessert now.
You hear me?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. Yeah. You got to say, hey, they still pay it.
Yeah, you know, your rookie contract, that's your appetizer.
Then you know, you get to get that bag, that's your full course meal.
Now you're going to go for a little dessert after that you want to, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That rookie contract, Joe, I'm going to get everything that I really wanted.
The nice sports car, the really expensive watch, get mom and dad a house, get me a crib.
Okay, that's that.
Because once I start getting to that $21, that $2,000.
that 200, that 300, I ain't touching that.
Yeah. Yeah. That money will never be spent.
Yeah. I would have gotten every, can think about it. You're making 69 million.
Let's just say for the sake of argument, they're going to, I'm going to take your agent's going to get his 3 to 5%.
Yeah. Uncle Sam's going to take 50% of that. So now you at, so that's 30. So basically you at 30 million.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, we're having the conversation here, 27 million.
Yeah. Uncle Sam take his cut. Your agent take his cut. You invest. I got, I'm going to take
you know what, I'm going to take seven million.
Now, maybe you got a shoe deal with the,
I don't know who he signed with is Adidas, Puma,
Skechers, and one Nike.
I don't know.
But that might be a situation.
You know what?
I ain't going to even touch my rookie money.
Hello.
I'm going to do this shoe contract money.
Hello.
I'm going to do this card signing money.
As I go.
As a car deal, I might get mom and dad a car,
but I'm going to get this car as I represent this dealership.
I will drive dad, Ocho and Joe.
Yep.
I don't need no car.
Yep.
That's how I go.
But I got to, but I'm going to make sure mom and dad taking care of.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to kick you a little something to.
Hey, I think you got two sisters.
What y'all want?
Now, hey, don't do too flashy.
Can't do too flashy.
Get y'all a nice, get y'all a nice, what?
What's a nice woman car with your old joke?
Hey, hey, hold on.
The new kids, the new kids and maybe a Mercedes C series.
Yeah, the Mercedes is hard, bro.
That ain't going to lie to you.
I like them.
I like them Genesis.
Y'all see them Genesis,
them new Genesis they got?
Yeah, but that's for grown folk, though,
especially, hey, the Genesis today.
Okay, okay.
You're right.
Yeah, that's a grown folk, you know.
Yeah, I like, but, yeah, you know,
hey, make sure they straight.
Yeah.
And then, hey, shut that thing down.
Yeah.
And, and never, and do not, I mean, do not lose sight of how you got here, bro.
Yes.
Listen, do not fall in love with the things that, you know,
That it brings,
that it brings,
you got to stay in love with the grind, bro.
Because a lot of times,
it'll bring things you don't need.
Hello,
I was going to do that.
That's what it's going to do that for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to test you.
It's going to touch your discipline.
Oh,
time you've got to learn the hard way.
Yeah.
Give the devil a ride enough.
Eventually he'll drive.
Hello.
Hello.
Come on, man.
Eventually he's going to drive.
I don't care.
I don't care who you are.
If you give the devil a ride enough,
eventually he will drive.
Now, where the hell is my penit?
in paper.
So,
AJ,
congratulations, bro.
Like I said,
I saw your father,
you and your father
when you came into ESPN.
Congratulations,
an unbelievable story,
a unbelievable journey.
But the journey now starts.
Are you?
He thought the journey,
he thought he was on the journey
to get here.
Now the journey starts.
You can't exhale.
No.
No, sir.
No, sir.
Now,
how do I improve
getting here?
Now, how do I get better?
Yeah.
getting here was the easy part.
It's staying here,
they're what's get hard.
Yeah,
that's it.
That's it.
Hey,
and what I love about it,
man,
I love how his dad is,
is helping him navigate
this whole entire situation.
I've seen something to where,
you know,
they don't have an agent.
You know what I mean?
They're kind of dealing with it because...
Oh, we already slide it in.
Oh,
you get 10% more than,
you get 10% to 12% more
than what the last class got.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm going to get you 4% to do that.
Hello.
That's what I,
and that's exactly.
Exactly what he said.
So he said he's here to help his son.
And I think from a child standpoint, bro, that's what you want, man.
You want your father to be there to help you navigate through this new situation,
this new era that you're entering.
I think it's, I enjoy seeing it.
Maybe because when I was a kid, I wish I would have had something like that.
You feel me?
Yes.
You know, so I see how genuine it is.
And, man, he's in great hands.
He just got to keep working, bro.
You got to keep striving and want to be the best.
And you can't exhale, although you made it, like, Unksay, the hard part now starts because now to stick is just as hard as making it.
Yeah.
You got that number one pick on your own.
Target.
I think you know what comes a lot.
Well, you got to live up to that.
You got to and continue to get better year and year out.
I mean, I'm excited to see him.
I'm excited to see him.
Getting married is easy.
Staying married is the hard part.
That's low.
Hey,
hey, statistically,
for some reason,
the numbers keep going up.
Getting married,
and the number
keep going up
and getting the boards.
Yeah,
I don't understand.
I don't care
what the number say.
I'm getting married.
We all going to do that,
don't you know,
but I think the marriages
might look a little different.
Right.
Because, you know,
because I'm a space type of guy.
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Yeah.
So it might be a situation
where you and I,
we're in the same house,
but we don't sleep
in the same bed every night.
Whoa,
I don't think nothing wrong with that.
Wait a minute, Joe.
Wait a minute.
Well, my grandfather and, I ain't never seen my grandfather and grandmother sleep in the same bed.
That's back in the day now.
That's 2026.
I'm not sure the women today ain't going to let that fly now.
Hold on.
Who is that?
Is that Charlene Lee Ralph?
Her and her husband just moved together.
They lived in separate cities for 20 plus years.
Well, you go, John.
Pull that up.
Hey, hey.
Hey, Joe.
Hey, that work in your household?
Listen, listen, Ocho.
Abstance makes the heart grow fine.
under, okay?
Wait a minute.
That ain't going to work, Joe.
That is not going to work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sometimes, you hear what you hear what I'm talking about.
Sometimes, man, it's better for us to get away from each other a little bit.
So when we do come back and we, you know, we're excited again.
Yes, yes, all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, you know what?
Oh, Joe, see, here the problem is.
It's because society is saying, we sleep here.
We, hey, we do this and we do that.
And everybody gets, you got to do what works best for you.
Right, right, right.
For you and your situation, it might be best that you go get mad at the courthouse.
Right.
Everybody talking about this destination wedding.
Yeah.
Everybody talking about X, Y, and Z.
Man, I need to have, she need to have 10 bribes made.
I need to have six groomsmen.
Yeah.
Nah, I need to have my brother, my mom, my sister, my kids standing beside me.
I need that she going to have her people standing up four or five people standing up.
That's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why I'm going to have a whole bunch of people.
That's, man, I don't know what they got mad for it.
They ain't going to last long.
Talking is.
at my place.
Yeah.
I don't spend 100,000.
Fair.
A homeboy had to wear it.
Everybody got crock shoes made, custom tucks.
Yeah.
Married last the longer to skip in the military.
Oh.
You know, skipping, they go to the military.
How long they were married, uh?
Not long as a snowball in the microwave.
Hey, listen.
I like that idea, you know, the whole having space.
But you got to have a woman that really understand that because they'll take that the wrong
way, aunt.
They would, they, Joe, that's the whole point.
Before we get mad, we understand this, Ocho.
Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, she might have her own, she might have her own place too.
Right.
Right.
You know, you know, I put a little seed away.
Hey, oh, Cho, probably one of them little clingy dudes.
He liked to be laid out of.
He is all up of the Cambodia.
California.
California can't go nowhere.
Oh, no, no, I, excuse me, I'm on control.
I'm the complete, I'm, I'm the complete, I'm, I'm, I'm the complete
opposite. I'm not really clingy. You know, I give you your freedom. I give you your space,
you know, to let you do your thing. I'd like to think you'd be able to do, you know,
the same for me. I'm outside of that. I just don't think the, as far as going as if we're married
and actually having our own spaces in general, I don't know if that will fly because most
women today, they want everything that's traditional, you know, everything that, that, that
the format and the way they say it's supposed to be. Obviously, you're supposed to do what works for
you and ain't too many too fond of that now.
Hey, hold on, what they say,
conversation rules of nation.
Hey, man, you got to break,
you got to break it down for, Ocho.
You gotta let her let her know what it is, man.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I'm gonna break it down, Joe.
Yeah, let her know what's going on.
Look, yeah.
Hold on, Joe.
Hold on, hold on, oh, now when you break it down, right,
and say, listen, we can be together,
but at times, how do I explain?
You know what?
At times, you know what?
At times, you know what? I want my space.
Yeah, yeah.
Tell me, that that gets you cussed out.
No.
I believe this is what you and I going through, this is going to be a lifetime.
Yes.
But there are going to be times that I'm going to need two or three days to myself.
Ooh.
Nothing personal.
What does that look like for you?
See, that's the problem.
Everybody's been living a life for someone else.
See, the thing is, is that people get into marriage and judge their marriage by somebody else's marriage.
Hello.
Remember, I've told you, be careful.
judging your success with someone else's ruler.
There you go. Your marriage might not look like mine.
Mine might not look like he is.
His might not look like theirs.
That's why I'm saying, you know, I laugh and joke.
We're like, ooh, ah, but somebody, but look, people swing
and people like, hey, I want to see my, I want to see my husband have sex with
somebody else. I want to see my wife. That works for them.
That ain't me.
I don't know. How in the hell?
Hey, Joe.
He's his own. I'd be able to see Harry the thing.
You don't know.
that Joe got that hammer.
He put the hammer out on.
You're like, oh, what I don't think?
What have I got myself in?
Those, uh, yes.
But see, if that works for you and there are people that have situations like that,
you know, you know what?
I'm going to put that in the book.
I'm going to put that in my book.
I got a book coming out, y'all.
Uh-oh.
I can tell some stories.
Write a book?
Yeah, I got a book coming out.
I like, I'm, I'm going to be in it.
Wait to the story that you all.
see you come out in this book.
Hey, okay, okay, okay.
Put me in that thing, what?
Hey, I imagine.
I imagine.
But I think that's the thing,
is that a marriage is different for,
there are certain cultures that you do in marriage.
Okay, that's for that culture.
Right.
That works for them.
I can't be looking at, man.
Man, you know such and such,
you know, a high school coach,
the rival school,
he was telling him one of the,
his runners would tell him that coach,
you know, he's a,
The guy, he said his coach, let him drink a beer before he run.
He said, but damn hell, son, you want me to buy you a beer?
That worked for him.
That ain't been to go over here.
Right.
What works for your relationship?
If going on vacation, if some, you know, hey, we need to go out once a week.
Somebody going to be cool with going out once every other week.
Somebody going to be cold out going once a month.
Somebody going to, hey, we can take a vacation once a year.
Somebody going to say, we need to take a vacation every quarter.
Yeah.
What can you guys agree on?
And then make that work for y'all.
And don't worry about society.
See, society got us all messed up to begin with.
Yeah.
That's the problem.
Yeah, hey, trying to do everything about a book joke.
I already know it.
Step by step.
Boy, shit, boring as hell.
Yeah.
So it's going to be interesting to see.
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Was asked before the draft about not being the first overall pick conversation.
For me, not being in that conversation, I don't really understand it.
And I think many years down the line, people are going to look back and say that I should have been.
What do you think?
I think this could potentially, we.
We always talking potential here.
This could potentially be, you know, one of them drafts, fellas,
to where maybe you do get a few Hall of Famers out of here.
But I think potentially, bro, this has a chance to be a great draft.
Because I think me personally, although I think I thought AJ should have won one,
probably outside of A. Cuff being one of my,
I don't really like that A Cuff went to Sacramento.
I'm going to be honest with you and Ocho.
Well, you had talked about that, that you didn't want him to go to Sacramento.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
story for another day, though.
You know, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
with his frame, uh, being able to play on the perimeter, a great defensive player,
has a great feel for the game.
And he keep receipts, bro.
He keep receipts.
He stayed it throughout college.
When he played against all these dudes, he beat them all.
He beat, uh, uh, hell, I think a j, Darren Peterson and, and Cameron Boozer.
Well, him and cam was on the same AAU team if I, if I, if I was reading correctly.
I know, but cam went to Duke and he was.
went to North Carolina. So you know, that little rival, I think when they played against each other,
I think Caleb got the best of them. But I just think potentially, bro, he would, I think the first
seven to eight peaks didn't surprise me. I mean, I guess when you're a bad team or bad franchise
Uncle Ocho, hell, to get better, you got to start someday. Yeah, you got to take you got to.
Yeah, I'm saying that with A-Cuff because the boy got so much potential, bro. And I just want to
I just want to see him in a great position.
Hopefully the Kings can do right.
You know, they can make a change, but y'all know the West is the West, bro.
Yeah.
If you're a bottom feeder in the West and you're playing San Antonio or OKC,
hell, just pack your bag, man.
And it's, you know what?
And I hate this.
It's easy to look back and say what you should have done.
Because everybody looked back at 96,
what Kobe should have been the number of an overall pick.
Well, you say that 20 years after the fact.
But coming out of college, you watched AI and
college.
You watch him work out.
And you saw Kobe in high school and you thought Kobe at that point in time
was going to be a better ball player than AI.
Y'all really, if somebody's going to really say that?
Come on now.
It's easy to say that now.
Yeah.
It's easy to say that now.
Yeah.
You know what the end result was going to be.
Well, I.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And I think in that in that instance, or in essence, Ocho,
Kobe had a lot that he had to play for.
Because this was in Philly, a place where he grew up at.
He played these guys in the finals.
They booing him.
Come on, man, can y'all imagine going home and they booing you, bro?
You know what I mean?
They booed him in the All-Star game.
Yeah, they booed him in the All-Star game.
And I think their rival between him and AI, he really, really took that personal, bro.
Yeah.
Right.
And so Kobe went to the right situation.
He got a chance to develop.
They just didn't feed him to the woods.
He had an opportunity to play a lot side, the most dominant guy in the game at that time.
maybe the most dominant guy ever.
He played alongside that guy.
And he got an opportunity to coach
to put him in a system that was conducive
to his skill set.
Did he work?
Absolutely.
Did he get better and better and better
because he wanted to prove people?
He wanted to prove himself right
more than he wanted to prove people wrong.
Right.
And you look at what happened.
But if he goes, does he work as hard?
And because he's like, man, I should have been higher.
I should have been, I should have went over
a red. I should have went in front of
all right. I went in front of this one. I should have went in front of that
one. Who knows? I mean, Tom Brady.
Tom Brady was pissed
because he's like, hold on. How many
their damn quarterbacks y'all going to take NFL?
Right. So you mean to tell me
I'm the 18th or the 20th best quarterback.
Spurge and win go before me?
All these guys, all these guys
y'all believe all these guys are better
to me. I did play at Michigan.
I did just beat Alabama. I think they beat them
in the orange bowl.
And sometimes that's what you need to light a fire up under you.
Yeah.
That's what you need.
That's what I needed.
Bro, because first of all, Ocho,
you know what we come from.
Everybody, oh, yeah, I know Ocho, but everybody was,
man, Ocho, he was good at high school.
Man, y'all think Ocho going to be like that in college?
Y'all think Ocho going to turn up like that?
Man, y'all think, oh, so y'all think Joe just going to go and do what he did in Arkansas,
what he did in high school?
Okay. And if you go to the league,
man, he ain't gonna make no All-Star team.
Man, man.
Oh, here, it's been to be like that.
Man.
You, you, everybody, even though they grew up with you,
they watched you,
everybody's happy for you.
Oh, fagged, boy.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, I know they want to happy about me, John, Uncle, Joe.
Because I did mine, and I did it loud.
Yeah.
Loud, hey, Joe, a loud and flamboyant.
But they were right there, Joe, they saw you.
you. It's not like all of a sudden, like, man, I don't know how he did. You saw. You saw everything
that I was doing. You saw what I was going through. You saw my situation. My situation wasn't
much different than yours. It could have been a little worse. It might have been a little better.
But it wasn't vastly different than yours. I chose athletics to go to school, get my work.
Oh, Joe, you and I didn't get our work too much with hell. That's why I think why we worked.
So me, you know Joe got our damn work at school.
But I think that, but you chose to drink, you chose to smoke weed, you chose to do all that other stuff that wasn't conducive for you being a great athlete or moving on.
So you can't get mad at my success because you didn't have it because, see, you mad about stuff about a reward you didn't get for the work you didn't put in.
Hello.
Hello.
Why you mad at me?
What?
Man, you go home?
Yeah.
Man, I'm in a bitch, man.
Okay.
I didn't judge you when you wanted to go smoke weed,
when you wanted to go drink,
when you go to trace tail,
when you didn't want to come to school,
I didn't judge you.
Hey.
Now all of a sudden,
I want to go home and be my grandma.
I don't want to go hang with y'all tonight.
Now, I'm bad.
Yeah.
Oh, now, oh, you think you better than us, huh?
No.
Whoa, whoa, what did that come from?
Who ever said,
Who ever said, I thought I was better at y'all.
If y'all knew how I was living,
y'all know I wouldn't think that I was better than no.
Do I think I can do what I do better than what you can do,
what you do?
Absolutely.
I can't do a whole lot.
But what I can do, I can do extremely well.
Right.
Bartaport used to say, boy, you don't need to do a lot,
but do what you do better than anybody else can do it.
If you do that, you'll have a job.
but I never understood
people that don't really know you
I get it
it's easy for you to be envious
or resentful because you didn't see
what they went through to get to where they got there
but somebody that grew up around you Joe
y'all grew up we grew up in the sandbox together
yeah we was jumping coming out the back of the swing
we're on the playground and we jumping out the back of the swing
we did that we're on the seesaw
yeah you know what I'm saying we go and see saw
and did I jump off real quick and you
hit your ass on the bottom.
We did that.
Yeah.
Hey,
hey,
you see me
kissed my first girlfriend
boy at the bullet club.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Well,
see,
we mad at you,
Joe,
because I was his girl,
too,
you kissed her.
I know what I'm going to be mad about it.
You see what I'm saying?
Oh,
he's trying to speak.
He's trying to speak that one in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey.
Hey.
But I think,
look,
Cameron Boozer probably had the
greatest start.
Why?
He had a dad that
an NBA player.
Yeah.
He got a front row seat to watch an NBA All-Star every single day.
He could give him information that, look, not just as a father, but as an NBA player.
Yeah.
This is what it's like.
This is the grind.
This is what you need to get good at.
This is what you need to work on.
This is how you can carry.
This is how you present yourself.
This is how you be a leader.
Obviously, he has to put his own spin on it.
but he had a head start.
You know, sometimes people start on third base
and thought they hit a hang on.
Bro, you already on third stop.
It can backfire too, though, Ocho.
You know, to where they can have all this successful to them
to where you go into countless NBA games
night after night and it becomes the norm for you.
You know what I mean?
And you don't understand the hard work that goes into this, bro.
You know what I mean?
It can happen like that, too.
You know, so I commend these guys who are NBA.
guys and their sons make it
because they love it.
It is tough, bro.
It's a grind.
It's a real, you really have to love it.
He had, but think about it.
His dad, he coming home,
they got an eight-car garage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The cars mainly got passports.
They're foreign.
They speak of language.
They speak a language.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
And for him to say, you know what, Dad,
that's nice.
And I appreciate the life.
that you were 40 million my brother.
But I got to get this on my own.
I want this for me.
Yeah.
I want this for me.
Yeah.
Do you understand what it takes for your dad to be that?
And says, you know what?
That's really nice.
And I appreciate what you've done for this family.
But I want that for my family.
Yeah.
One day I want to have what you and mom got.
I want to have a wife.
I want to have kids.
And I want my kids to look up to me.
like I look up to you.
But I also want them to say,
you know what,
my grandpa played in the league,
my dad played in the league.
Let me go see if I can get that.
You got that dog in you, boy.
Yep.
You see a lot of this maybe in like football.
You know, you have generation, the Matthews,
or you hit this in baseball with the boons.
The dad played and the sons played.
I think the granddad,
the granddad might have played.
Cal Ripkin, Jr.
But it's special, man.
It's special.
when you have that kind of lifestyle
and people say,
it's easy.
Yeah, it's easy to sit on your ass too.
Yeah.
Because think about what you try to do.
Yeah.
You don't want to go out there and work.
That man say, you know what?
Let me get this on my own.
I appreciate it.
You're going to give me the opportunity.
You're going to put me in a situation
where you're going to get me a trainer.
You're going to get me a coach.
And I ain't going to do nothing,
but show up, Joe, and try to work hard and get better.
That's all I got to do?
Hello.
I'm telling you.
Hey, hey, you just got to, hey, as a rookie, bro, you want to come in, you want to be a sponge,
soak up all the information you can suck up from these vets, meaning ask questions.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
I'm talking about put the work in, bro.
That's how you gain your respect.
You know what I mean?
And then once you take practice series, you know, and then you can go out in the games and dominate.
I'm talking about you.
That's how you gain respect, bro.
You got to come in and put the work in.
You know what's funny too
When we think about it
We talk about some of the early picks
Unk you talk about some of those
Joe that have that
That factor that you can't coach
They just got it
It's already in them
Especially you think about Boozer
Them boys want to be successful though
You got to think about how
The type of work they had to put in
To get the where they are now
To be picked as early as they've gotten picked
That's just half the story
The new journey starts now
So I know
they wouldn't fall by the wayside of being comfortable.
Okay, now that I've made it, you know, I'm going to sit back and chill.
No, I got to keep going.
I got to keep pushing.
Hey.
Think about it.
The NBA ain't got for 450 players, though, Cho.
Every year.
They bring 30 in.
So what does that mean?
If they only got 40 in, what does that mean if they bring 30 in?
30 got to do what?
Go out.
They got to go.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, look, look at this draft.
Okay.
Even when you look at the draft, the first eight picks was all freshmen.
they were all a freshman you know what I mean like this hey man with some talent in this draft
bro I was I was thoroughly impressed but you know they look at it now Joe if you're not a freshman
or sophomore you don't come out they question how good are you if you're that good why you
still in college as a junior why you still in college as a senior you ain't got no if you what you
if you what you say you are why you're still in college hey yeah yeah you out hey look look look
We on this racetrack, college ain't nothing but the pit stop.
I'm just for a short period of time.
I'm out.
Hey, I ain't gonna be here long.
Hello.
Hey, Uncle Joe, people be having a nerd ask boy,
but what class you took in Oregon State?
Shit.
How many classes you've been to you were at Oregon State?
I went to my marketing class.
All right.
Hey, I went to my, I went to me.
I what you major in, eligibility.
Hey, Joe.
That's the only way I can stick a ride.
four years, Joe, I got to make sure I'm eligible.
Hey, hey, I tell you, I'm with you, boy.
I tell you, man, they loaded me over like 24 hours.
I said, man, I mean, y'all got me in class all damn day.
More once I found out I could drop them classes and I ain't need but 12, 12 hours to be eligible.
Yeah.
I took it down to 14.
That way, if I have a little slippage, you know, I still get by.
Right.
Yeah.
Joe, I went to one class, Joe, my finance class.
Boy, I ain't missed that.
I ain't missed that for nothing.
No, so.
Hey, once I gave, how many math classes I need to take for this degree?
Oh, you just need to take two?
Okay.
What's the easiest two math classes I can take?
That's all I got for you.
I'm not going to do no algebra.
I'm not going to do no trigonometry.
I'm not going to do no upper level, upper level mathematics.
That's not what I'm going to do.
Hey, matter of fact, and speaking of this, I want you all to be honest with me real quick.
Think about everything.
Think about the curriculum and everything that we learn, whether it's high school,
whether it's college.
How much of this stuff we learned in school
have y'all yet to use in today's life?
I ain't going to lie, bro.
Everything you learned, what have we had to use in today's life?
Well, the things I learned,
Arcoo was on the court, you know, just...
I'm just keeping it up.
You want me to keep it 100?
I'm trying to keep it 100 with you.
Hey, hey, hey, Coach Nolan Richardson,
he humbled me at an early age.
He taught me discipline.
Yeah, he taught me how to compete.
He taught me how to work,
I ain't going to like T.
That's what I learned.
I learned and I used it to the T.
Yeah.
I use a lot of the stuff,
Ocho, and the lessons being going to an HBCU
knowing the history of HBCUs.
So when I talk about certain situations,
I can follow back.
Well, where did you learn that?
I went to an HBCU.
Yes.
About the military being segregated.
Think about it.
We fighting a war, Ocho.
I'm fighting for this country.
They fighting for this country.
But we fight and say it's segregated.
The blacks are fighting together.
The whites are fighting together, but we fighting for the same country.
The military then becomes integrated until 1948.
Truman did that.
Proud of that?
No.
Y'all do realize that when they captured POWs, prisoners of war, they fed them before they fed the black soldiers.
I'm going to say you again, Ocho.
They fed the people that they were fighting against
Before they fed the people they were fighting with
That looked like you and I
A lot of the time
The lot of the entertainers, they still have entertainers
They go around
A lot of the entertainers say, nah, we're not going
Unless y'all let the black sit up
Black let it go to the back
Huh?
So it was things like that
When I was on undisputed,
that I could speak about
that people like, how
he knew that?
Because they don't teach you that
at a P-W-I.
They teach you
his story.
H-I-S-T-O-R-Y.
Not history.
Right.
H-I-S-T-R-Y.
Similar.
Yeah.
Very different.
That's what I learned.
I remember
Haynes Walker.
Martin, Norman Elmore, say when Shannon, when you leave here, we want you to be the best representation.
The best representation of SSU.
I never missed Haynes Walton class.
Brilliant, brilliant.
Come to class, all they have in his pocket was a piece of chalk.
Start by, he writing on the board.
I love this.
he tell us the books
and the bookstore that we got to buy
that we need to read
because this is the curriculum
he's going to be teaching from
he's just writing on the board
I was like,
well, how do we know all of this?
God damn!
I know the man brilliant.
He's a doctor.
P.A.D.
Book written by Haynes Walt.
God be it.
Norman Elmore,
you talk about man could write,
a man could tell a story.
Yes, sir.
He told a story of McDougal.
I don't know if y'all know this.
Oh, my goodness.
And the way he could, I never forget,
one day it was cold.
And, you know, back then, Savannah State,
it's obviously much better now.
But we had them old, old, old heaters.
And it was cold one day.
And it was about four.
And normally you give the professor,
you give anybody 10 minutes.
They didn't show up in 10 minutes.
Out of there.
Yeah.
So it was about nine and a half.
Everybody looking at their watch.
and as
his tits struck 10
everybody getting up to leave
he would always come in
anybody who went to Savannah State
he probably got there
he probably started teaching say
80ish maybe a little earlier
he ended up passing
but he would always come
I'm talking about books
I'm talking about he has
carrying books like this here
so we go
so everybody walking up I'm sitting down
I ain't got nothing else to do
I'm sitting down
man he'd come around that corner
he said get back in the class
he came in
he put those books down on the table
he said I can teach you more in 10 minutes
than any professor can teach you on a day here
and sit down and get this lesson
Norman Elmore
Haynes Walton
but I had the thing that I tell people
and I talked to a lot of people that went to
HBCUs and they felt
that the instructor really cared about them
Haynes Walton, Gaynell Hewitt, Joyce McLemore, Joanne Green, Norman Elmore, all the, Dr. Bain, all of those people, I sincerely cared.
Steve Smith, Simpson, I sincerely genuinely felt they cared about me.
Steve Smith, he was my history professor, and he's like, oh, Mr. Sharp, I see you had a brilliant game.
but do you know about the imperialism?
Oh, brilliant times.
And come on, cut your boys of slack.
You just told me you heard I got you saw I got you heard
or you saw I got down, but they made sure I got my lesson.
Yeah.
Every Friday, Joe, never fail.
Had me a briefcase, had me a collar shirt and slacks.
What?
Yeah.
And I said, I'm going to be something.
I know I'm going to be something.
I know it.
You was in that decked out, huh?
Yes.
We have a class.
We have a class.
We have a class.
They never put on trials.
Oh, boy, you, hey, I was Johnny, I ain't know who Johnny Cocker, Roe.
I was Johnny Cochran, Willie Gary, Jerry Spent.
I was, I was, I was, any famous law you could think of.
Roy Black.
I was there way back then.
Oh, you was a criminal justice major.
I was a criminal justice major.
Hey, man, do you know that's what I majored?
Yeah.
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Yeah, see, I grew up watching Madlock.
You know, I used to watch Madlock and, you know.
Manlock, Ironside, yes.
All of them, yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, come on.
Hey, hey, I knew you.
I, I knew you was like, hey, look, I know it's cancer season too now for my
my counselors out there.
You know, y'all spay on the chat with the counselors.
Hey, baby, hey, it's cancer season.
We had completely different opposite.
We were completely different sides of the spectrum.
I majored in finance and my minor was goddamn was theater and drama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Drama.
That's what I hear.
Hey, hey, Joe.
Hey, Uncle Joe.
Now, you know I'm good in front of that camera.
When I got it in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm, I'm, I'm honest.
We got to let you add live, though.
See, we can't give you a script.
We got to let you add live.
I know, I'm good.
I'm good with a script too, though.
If you give me a script, we want you, we're going to give you an outline on how close we want you to stay to the script.
Right.
We got to let you be you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or it's going to come off as it not being.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got to use my own word.
Yeah, he that guy, he that guy, yeah, you put him in the game.
You just let him go.
Just let him do a thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What you want me to do?
Whatever, because just go get on.
Just go get on me.
Hey, man, what are you running?
Hey, don't worry about.
Hey, just when you get open, throw it.
Hey, he going to be open.
That's it.
Yeah.
AJ DeBonds on how he thinks he and Trey Young can find a good balance together as
ball dominant players.
I think we can definitely find the balance.
I can play off the ball.
Obviously, not a lot of people have seen that.
But I played off the ball at Polyphic Prep.
with Tyron Stokes and those guys with Team USA.
I'm not the number one option.
I have to pave my way.
I'm walking here with some vets on the team.
I have to earn my spot.
Love what you're saying.
Yeah, I do too.
I do too.
But I think their games complement each other.
I think they can play great off one another.
Both can create.
Both can ISO.
Both can create a shot not only for themselves,
but for guys around them.
And with that being said,
but when you got two playmakers, scores,
who make guys around them better,
I just think it's a perfect match.
He can guard those guys that Trey may have trouble guarding.
Yes.
You put A.J. on them guys with that length, you know,
being able to move the way he moves,
I just think it's a great compliment to one another.
And if A.D. stays in Washington,
and he comes in in any kind of shape,
Uncle Ocho, to where he want to say,
I'm going to get back to that ADI used to be 25 and 12.
Hey, man.
I think AJ has came in too.
to the right situation
to where he can really learn
from these two vets
and still, you know,
be a rookie of the year.
I really think that.
The Clippers took Keaton Wigler,
the Brooklyn Nets,
took Michael Brown Jr.
I guess it's Michael McHale.
McHill Brown, Jr.
Darius A-Cuff with 7th to Sacramento,
Kingston Fleming,
went number eight to the Hawks.
You like the Hawks pick?
out of Houston.
I don't know if you're an Ocho seeing him play,
but he bought 6, 4, 6, 5, got great length,
great athlete, has a great mid-range game.
He can score that ball.
He lock up, play defense.
If you go to Houston, bro, you've got to have some dog in you.
Those guys defend at a high level.
They play both fans of the floor.
Fleming's going to be great.
He's going to be a great piece to mix in with JJ
and the guys here with the Hawks, man.
I look forward to watch him play.
and I think he's just going to be a great plug-in piece.
He's going to be a great plug-in piece.
A guy who they've been looking for who can score the rock,
take some pressure out with JJ, CJ, and these guys,
I think perfect match, bro, perfect match.
Because you guys start three guards.
You guys start JJ.
You guys start BJ.
CJ and Alexander.
Alexander Walker.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So those guys still going to start.
But Flemmons, he'll definitely get his.
opportunities, bro.
I ain't going to lie.
I thought they probably was going to go big,
but they end up getting the other big boy out of,
and where he come from?
The Edge of Ford guy.
They took him 23.
St. John's, big guy.
He's about power four.
He got some dog in him.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he got some dog in him.
He got some dog in him.
So I think the Hawks got two great picks in that first round.
They'll be able to plug and play right away.
Okay, Ocho.
Yeah, yeah, Ocho, I know you happy about your heat.
I know you happy about your heat, but y'all got something.
Hey, Joe, let me tell you something about me, Joe.
Ain't no need for me to be happy, Joe.
I don't know, listen, I don't know.
You've been on here for a good little time now, right?
Have you noticed any time I predict something,
even though I do it in a playful manner and y'all don't believe me
because my story sounds exaggerated or sounds not believable?
Do you understand?
You understand I've been writing right, 99% of the time, Joe?
You've been writing a lot, but you've been lucky as hell too, boy.
I'm talking about it.
Come on, see, Joe, Joe, we can't continue to call everything luck, Joe.
At what point are you going to say, you know what, Ocho?
You know what?
I doubt is you, but boy, you know what the hell you're talking about, Joe.
When you're going to say that?
Why I got to be luck, Joe?
Yeah, you know, black folk.
I don't let that go happen, Ocho.
Yeah.
Hey, black folk, we don't get too.
We don't get that much luck now, Joe.
Come on now.
Listen, listen, Ocho, I think, hey, look, I hate to see my young boy, Kelly where, you know,
he's from the career.
He's from Lurro.
Yeah.
I hate to see him in that trade.
But I love to see.
Bobby Porter's from the crib go over to South Beach, too.
I know Bobby, like, hey, hey, Bobby, like, shit.
Hey, y'all going to tell you, damn it, take me too, because I want to go to South Beach.
Hold on.
Joe, when we had Bobby on the show, what did I tell Bobby?
Who did I tell?
I told Bobby, Bobby, guess who coming to Miami?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby laughed at me.
Yeah.
He's like, nah, and I didn't want to tell him right there, but shit, Bobby, you coming, too.
And I couldn't disclose that information.
Then my sources wouldn't talk to me no more.
Yeah, okay.
Hey, it is, it is.
I'm going to see, I don't know, Bobby might be here now.
I'm going to take Bobby the Tussies tomorrow.
All right.
All right.
The Golden State Warriors with the 11-11 pick
took Michigan forward.
Yaxel Lindenburg.
They won the National Championship.
A war room camera for the warriors
called owner Joe Lekam and Jim Mike Dunleavey
appeared to disagree on what to do with the pick.
Lindenberg on playing with Curry.
It's a full-sucker moment for me.
In 2016, I'm a big Kyrie.
guy. So I used to hate Steph Curry.
Damn.
Well, he said that in his interview?
Yep. I think the thing, the biggest thing is like Lake him and Dunleaving.
Yeah.
Because at the end of the day, look, we got Steph Curry. We only have Steph Curry for a finite
period of time. Right.
What are the best pieces that we can put around him? Because we don't have anything to trade.
Yeah.
The problem is that you should be happy because guess what? You got Kevin Durant.
And you didn't have to trade pieces to get him, but also you lost him too.
Yeah.
And you couldn't get pieces for him.
Yeah.
You didn't give up pieces or you didn't get anything for him.
So that's, hey, boom, boom.
Now, as guys start to get older, what do you have to give up?
What assets do you have to put around Steph as he starts to get old?
He's still a phenomenal player.
Yes.
Draymond, Jimmy Butler is coming back off an injury.
What pieces can I put around him?
Excuse me, Chad, to seriously, seriously make us a contender.
No.
They ain't close.
They're not beating San Antonio.
They're not beating the Thunder.
They're not going to beat the war.
They're not going to be the Nuggets or Minnesota.
No, no.
So at best case, they got to be filled.
Now, if Houston, we don't know what Houston's going to do.
We don't know what the lake is going to do.
But if you notice, the last several years, they've been in the play-in.
And in the last seven years, they hadn't gotten out.
A lot of those years, they hadn't gotten out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They need too many pieces, Uncle Joe.
Who are you talking about?
Warrior.
Golden State.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think, I think, I think Lyndonberg is just,
I think he'll be a plug and play guy right away,
Arkansas, which I've got to understand now.
You got Moses Moody who's probably going to miss all of all of this year's coming up
because of his Toronto Teller.
Yeah.
We don't know what Jimmy Butler's situation.
going to look like.
So he probably going to be out at least the first six months,
if not more.
At least, I'm saying the first year,
maybe All-Star game, Joe?
Maybe, maybe ACL.
I mean, depending on where they're at and the standards,
hell, he may take the whole year.
You know what I mean?
So there will be opportunity for this young man to come right in and play.
He's been in college for quite some time.
He's been through the rigorous parts of it.
He's more of a veteran guy in college.
You know what I mean?
And he's not a guy who's going to come in, bro,
and be trying to do things outside of himself.
You know, that's what the Warriors want.
They want guys who can plug,
who they can plug into their systems
and who can play pretty much right away.
Right.
You know, and play great in their system.
So I think that was probably the biggest griping
groan they had with Camingo.
Camingo like, damn, man, I got a bag out here.
I can score this thing.
Yeah, man, I ain't trying to play like y'all.
Hey, Brad, look here.
Hey, look here.
I know y'all hired a cashier,
whole security guy, but I'm trying to be the C-O.
I'm trying to be the bank manager.
Right, right.
Y'all hired me for the wrong job.
And look, they got Pazimski, and I love Santos.
The Santos kid can play.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You can play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I just, even, even with that, I don't know if that's enough.
Yeah, no.
Not, not, not the way this roster is currently constructed.
And then you got to keep Steph healthy for at least 70 games for you to have a chance.
And right now it's just hard
He runs so much
The pace is so fast
And
Little Ticic Tac injuries
Just put him down for weeks
Two weeks
It's what he had a knee
He had a hamstring
He had something
An ankle
Yeah
And not only that here
You're playing in the Western Conference
Man the Western Conference
Their first seven
Six seven Cs
Man they're going to be locked up
For quite some time
And I just don't see
OKC breaking the top six
You know
Like you say
I mean, yeah, the warriors.
I think they're going to always be in the down at, down at the bottom in the playing, man.
It's just, it's too challenging because you're going to have too many key guys
missing this season and you're going to probably have to rely on more young guys.
And, I mean, I don't see it, bro.
The Thunder took a seven to three guy, Mara from the University of Michigan.
What does that mean, Joe?
You got the, hey, hey.
Are they going to have, hey, is that another guy that can bank?
is he for Wemby?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, hey, we've seen what we was up against.
Hey, so now, are we keeping three Bs?
So that means we got Chet, we got Marr and we got Hartstein.
We might make.
Or is that a situation where we move on from Hartinstein?
What's going on, Joe?
I think that's what, I think that's what potentially may happen.
I think you may end up, you know, moving on from Hardinstein
and this kid, Marr, who's 7-2, 7-3, you know, who can
move, he can pass, he can score the ball.
Hey, hey, man, at this point, you already know you got to have, when you play San Antonio,
especially in that Western Conference, and you know you may see him in the postseason,
damn it, you better have your answer.
You better have an answer.
You need at least two bigs.
You remember when everybody had to try to deal with Shaq, they had at least three bigs.
Yeah.
We got 18 files for your big ass Shat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, but do you want to.
Because if you don't, he's going to file your number one saying, he's going to file him out.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Do you really want to let
Hartnstein go?
Do you really want to let your muscle go,
let you enforce go,
just because another player is 7-2?
Well,
I think the thing is Ocho is that I think the club has an option.
How much is that option?
Yeah.
Because they're trying to get out of that second apron.
Now, by moving Wiggins,
we went from 212 to 152.
Right.
I still would like to get even lower than that.
Yeah.
Preferably, I like to get up under 100 million.
Yeah.
Think about it.
Ocho, we lost in the Western Conference finals,
and I got to pay $152 million,
and I didn't get the title.
Right.
So all things being equal,
I like to be up under $100 million.
Could I get that down to $80?
Yeah, and had these rookie salaries mixed in,
to the point it don't hurt us as much.
But, yeah, I think Hartstein may be the next one.
Because you got, you could, I mean,
to carry all three of those guys,
that's going to be that's going to be hard to see bro
that's asking an awful lot
you know uh
uh
uh the ucon center of
uh youcon forward he goes 29
Joshua Jefferson
Jefferson from Iowa State he goes 28
to Brooklyn
Hey hey shout out
to my guy at 18
little Christian Anderson man
Hey he went to Texas Tech
uh
he's from he from Atlanta
he didn't play
over here with me in these lifetime leagues
since he was looking at him
and his daddy. And,
man, just to see his growth
and maturity as a player at Texas
Tech, he was, I mean, hell,
he did everything I thought it would. He boy just
flat out, he can play, bro. He can play.
He made it to the league.
Man, congratulations, bro.
Hey, look, let me tell you all something.
So the lifetime from my house,
Anka Ocho, it's probably a broad little over
two miles. I'm driving down.
You go to the one at the one at
Sandy Springs.
Sandy Springs.
Okay, you go right there inside the perimeter.
They're one in Phillips.
That's the club over there.
It's jumping.
Yeah.
It's jump.
Yeah.
It's jump.
Yeah.
They're building another.
They build another one.
They build on another one.
And they got an equinox coming, Joe.
You know that?
Yeah, I've seen that.
I've seen that.
I know.
It's getting real right here.
We got to get some stocking one of these gym right here.
Hey, look, check me out.
Check me out, though.
I'm driving down Roswell one day.
I see the little Christian Anderson.
He has, he on Roswell Road.
He's running.
You know, getting a jogging.
And it's him.
Yeah.
His little brother just, I think he just signed with Georgia Tick.
I seen his little brother just did something with Georgia Tick, but he can play.
His sister run track.
They run from the house all the way to the gym.
That's like probably three miles for them.
I stopped one down.
I'm like, hey, man, what time?
Man, our dad make us run to the gym and run home.
Like, when I see stuff like that, bro, like, I just shake my head because you know
greatness upon him.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
This man work hard, bro.
This man work hard.
man, he can hoop.
He can hoop. That's awesome.
The Lakers selected
Sergio D. Lerea.
Who there is?
Valencia.
That must be a six-foot-six-guard
out of Valencia
from Spain. He's from Spain.
Lencia.
And there must be Luca homeboy, son.
You know, they,
hey, they're trying to turn the Lakers into a foreign team.
Yeah, y'all are.
Well, I think that, look, we're going to see Joe in July for agency start.
We'll see trade that pick, move.
What can we get?
I think that's the fun time.
Trades happen because the trades happen more so in basketball than they do football.
I mean, obviously, we've had some big moves this offseason with Miles Garrett.
And we saw the bombshell that happened right before the season with Michael Parsons last year.
But normally we don't get a whole lot of stuff like this happening in the NFL.
It mainly happens in basketball.
But I think the NBA season is going to be free agency.
We don't see some wheeling and dealing.
Look, obviously the Janus, that thing sits shockwaves.
But I don't think the NBA is done.
I mean, it shouldn't have, you guys months, months ahead of time.
But still, he got traded.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even, I mean, look, we were talking, we talked about it.
about with Miles Garrett.
When they did it,
and they're doing that for,
they're like,
no, somebody else
going to pay that money.
Right.
We ain't trying to get up at,
we're trying to get up
$29 million right now.
We give you $29 million
and we trade you.
No, no, no, no.
Hey, let's push this thing back
to 15 days into the season.
Let somebody else take care of.
Boom, go.
It still shocked us
because that's Miles Garrett.
Yeah.
The defensive player of year,
the reigning defensive player of the year.
Now you let him link up
with the reigning MVP.
and a guy that led the league in receiving
and the guy that led the league
in touchdown catching
and a guy that was a top 10 running back
and Kyle Ruiang.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're surprised by that.
Hey, listen, the question is
Ocho, is John is going to take
somewhat of a haircut to be able to keep
what's his name?
Who was free?
Norman Powell?
Yeah, yeah.
Is he going to do that or he going to take the whole shit bang?
He's going to take the hose your ban
What?
He ain't going to do the Brunson deal
Like so you can see how
No hell now
Joe 113?
No state tax over here
No state tax
That's what I'm saying
Hey
State tax
So no state tax
On 113
Joe
But hey
Hey what's up
Hey I ain't
I'm gonna say it
I told you first
Now here we go again
Oh shit
Now Pat Riley
Mickey Erison
They got something else up their sleeve, nah.
Something else like what?
Somebody else coming in.
They got something else up their sleeve, now.
Because I can tell you, hey, I don't know if he's going to fit.
If it's who I think you're talking about.
Nah, it's probably not who you think,
but I'm just saying he got something up his sleeve.
So, okay, we got yon, but we still got to be able to compete in the east.
We don't want to just make the play, and we want to be seated.
I told him that yesterday.
I told him that last night.
Yeah.
Y'all going to be seated in the playing.
Nah, we ain't doing no playing this year.
You said, hey, hey, you're saying the heat should be a top four team in the Eastern Conference.
At least top five, top five.
I mean, when we talk about some of the team coming out of the East,
it needs to be the Celtics, the Knicks, the Heat, in that order.
In that order until they pool.
What are you going to do with the Pistons?
The who?
The Pistons.
Say it again?
Oh, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hey, what you're going to do about the Hawks?
The only team that beat the champs twice
who was up on them in the series.
What are you going to do about my Hawks?
Hey, can you do, did you just hit the order I just said?
You ain't say, what I'm saying.
You probably forgot about the Hawks.
I'm trying to.
Oh, no, I didn't forget about the Hawks.
The Hawks probably fifth or six and, you know, fifth or six.
They down there.
They're down at the bottom.
Got a little bit, probably.
Hey, let Pat Riley pull this one more,
this one more trick out of his hat.
He got one more?
He got one more trick up his upper sleeve, now.
Remember, I told you first.
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