Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Wolves force game 7, NFL schedule released

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves blowing out the Denver Nuggets, the 2024 NFL schedule being released, and much more!03:41 - Show sta...rts06:38 - Twolves beat Nuggets21:34 - Newscap21:44 - NFL Schedule34:51 - Greg Olson on Fox47:42 - What do you hear?48:32 - Breast Feeding Moron(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:47 So thank you so much for your support. Greatly, greatly appreciate that. And so, Ocho! Woo! The T-Wolves beat the Brakes off the Nuggets. The T-Wolves win 115-70, 4th of Game 7.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Ant-Man, 27 points, four rebounds, four assists, three threes. Jaden McDaniels, 21 points, eight of 10, four rebounds, two blocks. Mike Conley, 12 points, five assists, four rebounds. Cat, 10 points, 13 rebounds, five assists.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Reid, Nas Reid, 10 points, 11 rebounds. Rudy Gobera, 8 points, 11 rebounds. Rudy Gobert, 8 points, 14 rebounds. Minnesota, 45-point win, is the second largest margin of victory in an NBA history when facing postseason elimination. How about these defensive numbers for the Wolves? Denver Nuggets shot 30% overall. They were 19% from the three.
Starting point is 00:06:44 12 turnovers leading to 19 points. The lowest Nuggets had scored% overall. They were 19% from the three. 12 turnovers leading to 19 points. The lowest Nuggets had scored all season before tonight with 80 points game two of the series. And in game six, Denver only put up 70 points. Now, as Ant-Man said, as he held up in the game, we got
Starting point is 00:07:00 a game seven. As he said when he was leaving the arena on the other night when they lost in game five as he said when he was leaving arena on uh the other night when they lost in game five he said we'll see y'all back for game seven the thing that you gotta love about him ocho whether he win big or he lose he has the same bravado he played the exact same way and you gotta you gotta you gotta love that about him because a a lot of times, Ocho, we've seen guys talk big when they're winning and now all of a sudden they lose, they run out the locker room.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They ain't got nothing to say. He's standing on business come either way. Whether he win or lose. That's what I love about him in general. Obviously, I think Ant-Man is the perfect face for the NBA. He's got to be the next man up. Because he delivers on and off the
Starting point is 00:07:45 court and he's a polarizing charismatic figure. He's perfect for it. And you know what? I have a feeling I have a feeling everything is set in place for them, for that game seven and I don't know why I can feel
Starting point is 00:08:01 it deep down in my soul despite Denver's experience, playoff experience, Game 7 experience, for some reason I have a feeling that Ant-Man and company is going to beat them boys. I can feel that. I know you probably disagree with me because obviously the Nuggets coming off a championship. I don't know why. It's just something deep down in me says Ant is going to will not only his way, but his
Starting point is 00:08:28 team's way and getting the boys past the Nuggets. Well, you can see early on in the ball game, the Nuggets got out to a 9-2 lead. Next thing you know, it's 9-9. You look up again, it's 31-11. And Ant man led
Starting point is 00:08:44 that charge. Yeah, he was making shots. But you look at Cat, it's 31 to 11. And Ant-Man led that charge. Yeah, he was making shots. But you look at Cat, you look at Rudy Gobert, owning the backboards, second chance points. They won the rebounding margin by 19. And so now that gives you an opportunity to get second chance points. Look, the Nuggets missed some shots. They missed some shots that we've seen Jamal Murray.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Some? They missed a lot. But shots that we've seen some they missed a lot but shots that we've seen jamal murray make shots that we've seen uh michael porter jr make they missed those shots now are they gonna make all the shots probably not but i think they'll make a lot more shots uh i think they play saturday if i'm not mistaken i think they'll make a lot more shots than they miss the The question is, can Minnesota summons up that same intensity? One more time. Can you do it, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:09:32 One more time. Can you do it? Collectively at that. Collectively. Ant-Man had 27. Michael Conley gave you 13. Cat, we need Cat to show up, Ocho. We need Cat to show up. He only took 10 shots, though, Ocho. He only took 10 shots.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I know he only took 10 shots, but again, it's the bright lights. Cat, we need you to show up, baby. And I said he was a superstar the last time I talked, and the people in the chat, they corrected me on Twitter. They corrected me in the chat as well. They said he's just a star. They said he's just a star because he's not showing up the way he should. I need Cat to be a superstar. I want him to be the superstar that I know he can be based on what I know he can do.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That goddamn Rudy Gobert did what he's supposed to do. Obviously, he was a defensive juggernaut tonight. Jaden McDaniels, boy, you need to take a goddamn bow, boy. Jaden McDaniels, you need to take a goddamn bow, boy. Boy, he was the real deal he was the difference maker tonight obviously he had 21 excuse me my bad my bad my bad I got something in my eye
Starting point is 00:10:32 he was the difference maker tonight and when you look at the game as a whole I look at it as well damn did the Nuggets actually lose this game or I'm trying to say how do I say it the right way? Being that Murray played so poorly.
Starting point is 00:10:49 It's the second game. He's only had one field goal in the first half. Yes. So it's like, did y'all even try? I'm not saying that. Yeah, they tried. Yeah, that's Minnesota. Minnesota, give them credit.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Okay, okay. So we're going to get the Wolves credit then? Yeah. Okay. Their defense was outstanding tonight. I'm going to leave that there. I'm not going to make no excuses for the Nuggets. It was the goddamn Wolves all day.
Starting point is 00:11:16 They got after them. They got up into them. They crowded them. Like I said, they had some open shots that they missed. But give those guys credit. But Michael Porter Jr. can't be 3-9. Jamal Murray can't be 4-18. KCP can't be 2-6.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I mean, they shot 7-36. See, the problem that you run into, it's kind of like a lot of teams. Okay, we shoot the three, we normally make the three. Okay, tonight, you're shooting the three, you're not making the three, and you continue to shoot the three. Well, three. You're not making the three. And you continue to shoot the three.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Well, damn. You're not making it. So, hey, you know, hey, you got to keep shooting. Shoot or shoot. You know what I'm saying? You miss all the shots you don't take. Well, hell, you're missing all the shots that you do take. Get your ass closer into the paint.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And also, Minnesota dominated them in the paint. The paint points. You get second chance. You get the ball back. You put it up. They did a great job. Give Rudy Gobert credit. He only scored like eight, nine points.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But the rebounding, the defense was a lot better. Look, the other night, Jokic made some hell of a shot. I went back and watched the entire game. Jokic made some shots that if that's anybody else, that's a blocked shot. Rudy Gobert gets a blocked shot. He made it tough. Now, there are some shots I'm like, well, damn, Rudy, the guy
Starting point is 00:12:33 that got you looking like me. But there was also some shots that Jokic made that ain't nothing you can do about that. You just say, you look at him and say, Coach, he just made a better play. Sometimes better offense beat good defense. It's just that simple.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Great pitching beat great hitting. You know, hey, a great throw will beat great coverage. You've seen guys on show, the guy right there. You're like, how the hell did he get that in there? Ball placement every time will always win, no matter how good your coverage is. Exactly. And since I've been watching,
Starting point is 00:13:08 obviously I've been watching the playoffs, paying better attention and learning the game a little bit more so I can be able to talk it with you and Gil, I've come to learn that Joker is the real deal. So now I'm understanding the three MVPs. I'm also coming to understand
Starting point is 00:13:26 that goddamn Luka doing all type of Yes! He got all he got all type of crazy They got bags. But it looks so I don't
Starting point is 00:13:37 excuse me I don't mean to be disrespectful. It looks so slow and lethargic. It's like there's no type of no type of explosion or just no type of... They ain't got no 40-inch verticals. Give me the word to use.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So I don't sound disrespectful. We're looking for our athletes to be abdub. Be able to jump out the gym. To be all the things that we're used to seeing. The Michaels, the Kobe's, the Jordans, all those guys were super, super athletic. How are they so effective without it though?
Starting point is 00:14:12 They're a guy, they always, if they go to the park, they're going to always be shirts. Ain't nobody, neither one of them taking their shirt off. They're always going to be on the shirts when they're on the blacktop. So we already know that. But you're looking at them, and I think the thing is sometimes you underestimate them.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And then you're looking like, man, I better de-do it up. And the next thing you know, Luka got a 30 point or a 40 point triple-double. Jokic got a 30 or a 40 point triple-double because you're looking at them and aesthetically, you're like, I don't see no calf muscles. I don't see
Starting point is 00:14:43 no cuts. I don't see nothing, I don't see no calf muscles. I don't see no cuts. I don't see nothing. I don't see no guys jumping over nobody. Ain't nobody posterizing nobody. But if you look at the stat line at the end of the night, man, he cooked everybody. Damn. And so that's what it is because we're used to seeing super, super athletic guys be able to do that. And neither one of those guys are super, super athletic.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But their basketball IQ is tremendous. They do a great job. You're not going to speed them up. Luka's going to play at his speed. Yoke's going to play at his speed. You come do all that other stuff. Another thing that the T-Wolves
Starting point is 00:15:21 did tonight, look at Yoke's assist total. Yeah, two. We'll give you yours, you get yours. But ain't nobody else going to do it-ish. So now, we're not going to let you have a 30-point, 14- or 12-assist night.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That ain't going to happen. Because when you do that, you get off, and now you make it easier for Murray. You make it easier for KCP. You make it easier for Michael Porter Jr. Now, we're going to give you yours. You go ahead and you play one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But they did a good job. They trapped him. A lot of times, they got him at the top of the key. They came with the trap, and they said, we're going to roll the dice because we don't believe you're going to hit those shots that you hit in Denver. Give the T-Wolves credit. You can't take away everything. You have to give up something.
Starting point is 00:16:06 But hopefully what we're giving up doesn't hurt us long term. Yeah. But listen, what's the chances that the Nuggets have a horrible shooting night in game seven this Saturday
Starting point is 00:16:18 like they did tonight? I would put money they won't. Now, I'm not saying they're about to go out there and shoot 65% from the floor and 50% from the three and 90% from the free throw line. I'm not saying they're about to go out there and shoot 65% from the floor and 50% from the three and 90% from the free throw line. I'm not going to say that, but the likelihood
Starting point is 00:16:29 of them shooting seven for 36 or them shooting 30% from the floor, that's probably not going to happen, Ochoa. That's not going to happen. No, no. That's going to be a good game. That's going to be a very good game. The question is, and remember, you see how the role play. Now, remember I told you the other night how role players play better at home? Yeah. You see the crowd get behind them, and remember, you see how the role play. Now, remember I told you the other night how role players play better at home?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. You see the crowd get behind them, and now everybody making shots. Even guys that we don't customarily see making shots. The question is, can you turn it over? Can you package that and take it on the road? Right. Because when we played Ocho, remember what they said? Ocho, your run game and your defense, that'll travel.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You can take it anywhere. Take it to Miami. Take it to Kansas City. Remember what they say. Ocho, you run game and you defense, that'll travel. You can take it anywhere. Take it to Miami. Take it to Kansas City. Take it to Buffalo. It does not matter. If you can play defense, you can run the ball. You good. You straight. Question is, now, can you take that defense that you
Starting point is 00:17:20 brought tonight, can you package that up, take it on the road? About to find out. Can you package that up? Take it on the road. But to find out. Because you're one step away. You're in the Western Conference. You're in the Western Conference finals. With a chance to go to the NBA finals. See, this is I see what Ant-Man is doing.
Starting point is 00:17:38 See, this is how you become icon. This is how you make a name for yourself. Magic Johnson became Magic Johnson in the playoffs. When he jumped center for Kareem in the NBA Finals and went 42-15 in seven. That's when you become iconic. When you start doing stuff in the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:17:56 LeBron, playoffs, Steph, KD, Kobe, Shaq, you become iconic in these moments. You see Ant- man before your eyes because now a lot of times minnesota game now they're going to be on tv a lot next year best believe that but people are getting an opportunity that's what the playoff does it gives you an opportunity because every game is going to be on television it gives people an opportunity that doesn't
Starting point is 00:18:21 normally watch outside of golden state the the Lakers, the Celtics. Now you get to see the Timberwolves. Now you get to see this young 22-year-old putting in that work, giving folk that business. So I'm happy for the Timberwolves. Look, ain't nothing, hey, Mike Malone, ain't nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I'm not going to show him no film. What am I going to show him? I got beat by 45. Man, please. What am I going to take him no film what I'm going to show him I got beat by 45 man please what am I going to take out of that Ocho right you right you throw that one in the trash the whole tape
Starting point is 00:18:54 you can make it for Saturday you know that's where the video anything you want to break down hell nah throw that thing away you better not break that thing in this building that thing bad look you remember that 24 hour rule down. Hell nah, throw that thing away. You better not bring that thing in this building. That thing bad look. I remember them days. You remember that 24-hour rule?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, yeah. You let it sit for 24 hours. One 24 hours is up. On to the next game. On to the next game. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
Starting point is 00:19:24 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Ocho, now it's time for our first segment of the night, and it's called a News Cap. The NFL released a schedule yesterday. The Cleveland Browns have the most difficult schedule, followed by the Baltimore Ravens.
Starting point is 00:20:51 We got it up on your screen. The Browns have the most difficult schedule. Damn, it seems like everybody in the AFC North, because you got the Browns, the Ravens, and the Steelers, have the most difficult schedule, followed by the Texans, the Packers, the Giants, the Bills, the Jags, so forth and so on. Guess who has a fairly easy schedule? See, like the Chiefs, they're way, way down there, middle of the pack.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But the Atlanta Falcons, they have the easiest schedule. Seems like everybody in the NFC South, because Atlanta and New Orleans are tied for the easiest schedule, followed by the Bears and then the Carolina Panthers. All right, Ocho, what you thinking? Hold on. Primetime games by team. The Jets, 49ers, and Dallas all have six. Kansas City, Buffalo, Detroit, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Philly, Miami,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and the Rams. I think that's the Rams. Rams have five houston pittsburgh tampa seattle atlanta cleveland have four uh the giants chicago oh no that's the raiders lost the los las vegas that's the rams yeah i think that's the raiders no that's the that's the ram okay rams that's the rams okay rams they have the Rams. Okay, Rams. That's the Rams. Okay, Rams. They have five. Now the Jets, now excuse me,
Starting point is 00:22:09 the Giants, Chicago, the Chargers, New Orleans have three, Minnesota, Las Vegas Raiders, Washington, Denver, Jacksonville have two, Indy, New England, Arizona, Tennessee have one, and Paul Carolina.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Oh, Joe, do you remember, I don't know if y'all ever had these did y'all ever have jamboree games jamboree in high school yeah high school jamboree yeah so where you play one team for a half and then you play another team for a half right yeah yeah yeah so that's that's that's what that's what carolina carolina gonna start paying See if I'm Carolina I got a great Here's my strategy Ocho I will let people in the game free And then I'm gonna charge their ass to get out See what I did there Ocho
Starting point is 00:22:54 See what I did I got him Got him Ocho Hey that's a good That's a good one Hey that's a good one But one you gotta get him to show up first That's how we do it You gotta get him to show up first. That's how we do it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You got to get him to show up first. First game of the season. Hey, Carolina tickets, free. Yeah. Get there and sit there. Okay, now I'm going to charge you to get out. All right, all right. $500.
Starting point is 00:23:15 $250. That's a good one. All right, Ocho. What you like about the schedule? I mean, who you like? Who you like? Who you like early? I mean, obviously, I like the top teams.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You know who I really want to see? I'm really curious about. I really want to see what the Jets do. The Jets have so many primetime games, despite their record last year. Monday night on the road in San Francisco. Exactly. Because they have Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yes. As long as Aaron Rodgers can stay upright, they made some improvements offensively. So I'm curious to see what they look like, which is why they have so many primetime games. Aaron Rodgers. As long as Aaron Rodgers can stay upright, they made some improvements offensively. So I'm curious to see what they look like, which is why they have so many primetime games. 49ers are going to be the 49ers. Chiefs are going to be the Chiefs. I would like to see the Houston Texans with more primetime games. I know they have four, but what CJ Stroud did last year, he needs to be on primetime a little bit more. He needs to be on primetime a little bit more. So I'm excited for them.
Starting point is 00:24:06 The Bengals are going to do what the Bengals do. The Dolphins are going to do what the Dolphins do. The Ravens are going to do what they do. Outside of that, they're going to be one team that we're counting out, that we don't expect to do good this year. There's always a surprising team. I don't know what team that will be, but
Starting point is 00:24:21 somebody's going to emerge and surprise everybody. who's going to be i don't know yet i i don't know yet but i'm excited i'm excited for the season and one more thing before you go on whoever is responsible for the creativity whoever's responsible from the teams as far as twitter is concerned for the creativity of the schedule release and and the way they did it every team uh their media team media members whoever runs their twitter accounts they did one hell of a fucking job one hell of a job and that's all 32 teams very creative and it was very exciting for me i'm sitting here i'm refreshing all the different teams' Twitter accounts trying to see. The Bengals was
Starting point is 00:25:06 dope. Cleveland, and I hate to say it, Cleveland was really dope. Obviously, the Cowboys zone was dope. Other few teams are really, really, really funny. I'm talking so fast. I'm so goddamn excited for football season. I can't wait. Bro, the NFL week one
Starting point is 00:25:23 out the gate, revenge game. Baltimore Thursday night on the road in Kansas City. Week seven, Chiefs at 49ers. Steelers week two at Broncos. Russell Wilson, Sean Payton. Ravens at Chargers week 12, the Harbaugh Bowl. Yeah. Week five, Bills at Texas.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Stephon Diggs, revenge game. Yeah. They got some A. The NFL, look, and you know, that schedule, we'll talk about that as it goes along, Ocho. Where I think the Ravens, they got like three games in like 15 days. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And so, I think the Ravens, I think it's the Ravens and Kansas City, and I think it's one other team that played like three games in like 15, 16 days. They had to work cut out for them. That's a lot. They might need to get them boys
Starting point is 00:26:14 two weeks off after that one, Joe. Yeah, I mean, I think after Joe Burrow made the suggestion if they're trying to implement an 18 game, teams having two bye weeks I think that is feasible I'm not sure how the NFL will be able to work it out
Starting point is 00:26:30 there's always a way to work it out but then you're fixed in the season so what you do Ojo you say okay we're only going to play one preseason game and now we're going to start so now it's very it's very incumbent guys come into shape because now you're not going to be able to have those preseason games.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Because here's the thing, Ocho. Guys are not playing in the preseason anyway. So while we, and you're charging fans, price like it's a regular season game. And they're seeing guys that's either going to be on the practice squad or not make the team. That's not fair to the fans. Right, right. Okay, another thing. Now, we got to be cautious here.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Now, you have to remember the preseason is for college players, for free agents trying to make the team as well. Now, you take some of those preseason games away from those players trying to put something on film for their resume to get picked up. Then what do we do about them? Because it takes away their opportunities trying to make a team or trying to make a squad somewhere else. You know what Ocho? And I said this before, had the situation where it's one play game or three preseason games.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I'm not so sure Shannon Sharp made it because I made it on the last game of the preseason and we had five games that year. So it was very, it was very helpful to me. I think the thing is, guys, teams now, a lot of these college guys, they're at the OTAs. They don't get the leeway that the veteran guys get to not be able
Starting point is 00:27:54 to show up. So, Ocho, you'll have a few surprises, but for the most part, the coaches know who's going to fill out that 53-man roster. You're going to get a surprise here and there. You're going to get a Johnny Randall that's an undrafted free agent, a Wes Welker that's an undrafted free agent,
Starting point is 00:28:12 a Rod Smith that's an undrafted free agent. You're going to get a Tom Brady that shows enough and they say, you know what, we're going to keep four quarterbacks, a Shannon Sharpe in the seventh round. You're going to get a guy here or there. But for the most part of zach thomas an undrafted free agent to go yeah oh yeah with them for the most part you know with the exception of maybe one or two guys who's gonna feel like that 53 man roster now who
Starting point is 00:28:40 this is why now all of a sudden the coaching the OTAs come in because now I get an opportunity to look you don't make the roster but I think with another year him being in our system which I think this kid could be really good for so now let's put him on the practice squad let's watch him work every day does he get better does he get better Rod Smith came in there and they put him on the practice squad but every day every day rod you can see rod getting better he wanted to be tim brown he wanted to be whoever the best receiver was that we were facing on scout team yeah that's what he wanted to do he get the jersey they ran it they ran it little skinny ass in the ground but he'll grab he'll
Starting point is 00:29:20 grab the jersey i got it i got it and you can see him getting better and better. Better and better. Better and better. Next year, we start the season. We go three by one. Hail Mary. He backside by himself against Daryl Green. John put it up. He jumped over the top of him, catch it for a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We win the game. Yeah. After that, that was all she wrote, huh? Yeah. Archon, how you ended up featured in the Cowboys release? Hey, you know what? You know, Jerry hit me, you know, after getting on Jerry a lot, you know, and Jerry called my phone. And Jerry was like, you know, Chad, I hear some of you and some of the things you and Sharp be saying.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I hear you loud and clear And I hear you loud and clear. I hear you loud and clear. And I'm going to do my due justice and my due diligence to try to stay out the media. Good luck with that. Yeah, Jerry told me. He said it's very hard for me. It's the way I conduct business and the way I've run things all my life. But I hear you loud and clear.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And Jerry asked me, you know, do you want to be a part of our schedule release? I was like, Jerry, man, listen, I love you, man. I meant no harm by any of the things I said. I love the Cowboys. I love Dak. I love the players. And I just felt they deserve more, as do the fans, Jerry. That's all I'm trying to get you to see.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And he said, I appreciate that. And I told him, I'll do the release. And, you know, just FaceTime me. And I'll act like I don't know what's going on. And that's how that started. Yeah. So it was great. I mean, it's going to be some great games.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's going to be great for us, Ocho, because we got a second year up under our belt. We're going to get better. Building a studio. We're going to be able to have graphics. We're going to be able
Starting point is 00:31:14 to let people see the rundown of what we're going to be able to talk about and the sequence in which we're going to talk about it. Our graphics are going to get better.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We're going to get better. We're going to give the fans, our listeners, our listening audience, and our viewing audience better content. And it's going to be really – look at that. LeBron, call my aunt, man. But it's going to be great. I'm really, really excited about this season.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I'm really – because you got great storylines. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. You got Patrick Mahomes. Can they three-peat? Can they do something no other team has done in the Super Bowl era, which is three-peat?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Joe Burrow. Lamar. Is this the year Lamar finally get the Ravens over the hump, not to the championship game, into the Super Bowl that's going to be played
Starting point is 00:32:01 for the Super Bowl this year. New Orleans. In New Orleans. Yeah, you know where it's at. The Bengals will be there. Don't worry about it. That's the question. Deshaun Watson. Is he finally back?
Starting point is 00:32:13 Back, yeah. Is he finally back? And so, look, we got great matchups to start out the season with. We got great matchups throughout the season. And like you said, a lot of times, Ocho, what we don't think will be a great matchup sometimes materializes into being a
Starting point is 00:32:30 great matchup because both teams are not what we thought they would be. They're even better. You know what was funny? Remember how I said earlier it's always one team? Yeah. Every season that surprised you? Man, what if Carolina happens to be that team? What happens if Carolina happens to be that team that comes out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:32:49 and shocks the goddamn world and plays extremely well? They come out the gate 4-5-0, you know, and we like, man, what in the hell is going on? The question is, Ocho, have they done enough offensively to give Bryce Young the core that he needs, the receivers, tight ends? Right. And did they do enough to shore up that offensive line to protect him? Protect him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I don't worry about – we've seen – look, you play at Alabama, you play at that level where the expectations are out for yin-yang, game in and game out. You're expected to win the SEC. You're expected to win the SEC. You're expected to win the SEC championship. You're expected to compete and win national championships. And you're in that pressure cooker on a weekly basis. The question is, have they done enough
Starting point is 00:33:35 to put the hedges around him, which is the protective shield, offensive line, skill position players, have they done enough to ensure this young man can have success? That remains to be seen. Coach O, check this out. Greg Olsen is staying with Fox for the 2024 NFL season,
Starting point is 00:33:56 although he won't be making as much money as he did last season. Olsen's salary will drop from $10 million to $3 million with the drop down from the number one team to the number two team. Now, Olsen will be an analyst on the NFL Network, on the network's number two NFL team, partner by play-by-play, Joe Davis. Brady will make his debut. Cowboys-Cleveland matchup week one. Oh, that's nice. I don't, Ocho, I don't listen to the sound.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But from what everybody has told me, he's done an outstanding job. Greg Olson? Greg Olson. Oh, yeah. Listen, when I think about Greg Olson, obviously, I've watched him many a time before. I'm not going to say Greg Olson is as good as Tony Romo
Starting point is 00:34:42 when it comes to play-by-play calling, but he's phenomenal. He's someone that I can listen to. He's someone that I enjoy. When he is calling games, he's someone that I enjoy listening to. I like Tony Romo. I like listening to Tony Romo because Tony played the game at such a high level. Right. He has such a keen IQ for what's going to happen before it happens.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And when players are developing, I love to hear Tony call a play before the play even happens. Because he knows, based off formation recognition, down in distance, and it's so funny to hear him say, what's going to happen? And nine times out of ten, whatever he says,
Starting point is 00:35:15 that's exactly what happens. It's so funny. It's so funny watching Tony do it. Greg is also very good. He's very good at his job. I think a lot of guys can do that. But it's kind of like when the draft, although Adam Schefter and the insiders have the information what teams are going to do, what did the commissioner do?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Y'all stop that because you're taking the fun out of it. You're robbing the guys of that opportunity. You're robbing the fans of listening at home of that opportunity. Now, some fans, they love that. They love like, oh, man, Tony Sayles is going to be a run. Oh, Tony Sayles is going to be a pass. Well, hell, it can't be with one of the two. You can either run the ball or you can throw it. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? You come to the line, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:35:52 the defense, watch the run, watch the pass. I said, well, damn, you got a 50-50 chance. Hell, we can't do it with one another. Hell, it's first down. What you expect us to do? Punt it? So, a lot of fans say they like it. Some fans say, nah, hey, once the play happens, tell us what happened.
Starting point is 00:36:08 But some fans like that. They like knowing it's going to be a dive off the tackle or it's going to be, they're going to run the smoke screen, we call it jailbreak, or they're about to run a specialty play because it's something that he saw them practice on a Friday. But
Starting point is 00:36:23 to each his own, like I said, I don't listen to the sound because I already know what I'm looking for. And I don't want somebody to contaminate what I'm going to say on air or what I'm going to see. Yeah. So what you hear me say, those are my original thoughts.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Now, could it be possible that some of us think alike? Because a lot of us, you know, Romo, myself, Olsen, Collinsworth, a lot of us got guys that you feel the same for. Ryan Clark from Saturday. We did play in the league, so maybe we might have some similar thoughts. But I promise you, I'm not listening to anybody speak
Starting point is 00:36:57 because I know what I'm looking for. And so it's always great. So I'm sorry, Greg, from what they tell me. You know, he was tied in. He in the fraternity. He was doing a great job. But damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 10 to 3. He's good. But here's the thing, Ocho. This is what I tell people. You got a job. Yeah. Yeah. You got to understand
Starting point is 00:37:15 who coming in now. You know, Tommy taking, Tommy is taking the meat and potatoes of the money that's available for the broadcasters. He's taking the meat and potatoes. Now, I've never seen Tom in that environment,
Starting point is 00:37:26 in that space, having to do play-by-play. But if I know Tom Brady and understand how he is when it comes to the game of football and the work he's going to put in to be the best at what he does, I'm sure he's going to do a phenomenal job as well because he has, obviously, the IQ, the understanding of the game,
Starting point is 00:37:43 all the nuances, knowing what's coming based on down and distance. Similar to that of Tony Romo. So I'm sure he's going to do a hell of a job. I got a question for you, too. Yeah. You know, I like to talk a lot and sometimes I talk too fast. And I think one of the things I need to work on is to to minimize my cursing.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But how would you think how you think I would do a play by play on a Sunday? What do you think, how do you think I would do a play-by-play on a Sunday? What do you think about that? Me in a play-by-play with my voice, not changing the way I talk, talking the way I do, where it's like barbershop talk, but I'm doing play-by-play on Fox or CBS, still sounding like me without the cursing. What do you think? That's going to be tough because you have to understand your voice. What we do is niche because it is barbershop talk. And this is why that's why it's relatable to a lot of people now. Right. What about the people that don't look like that don't go to the barbershop?
Starting point is 00:38:36 They go to salons. And here's the thing, Ocho. Are you going to put the time in to study? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, you know, as soon as we hit this football topic, you notice how I'm just rambling on and I just keep on going because I'm already ready? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:50 You got to study. You got to go back and watch film. Even now, you got to watch film differently. Previous. Previous, yes. Yes, I got to watch previous games so I have a better understanding. Because all I watched, all we watched was the defense. We didn't give a damn what their offense was going to do
Starting point is 00:39:07 because we didn't have to deal with their offense. We just worried about defense. So now you got to go back and watch all their offense. Right. All their defense. All their defense, yeah. And you got to watch the opposing team, all their offense and all their defense. I mean, if you want to put that kind of time in, could you do it?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Sure. But the question is, do you want to put that kind of time in, could you do it? Sure. But the question is, do you want to put that kind of time in? That's the thing. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold,
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Starting point is 00:40:53 uh i don't think they would put someone like myself with with um too charismatic too much too much of a personality i think that that could be more of a distraction than anything and in that type of setting. You know, when you think about broadcasters or play-by-play callers, there's nobody
Starting point is 00:41:10 with my type of cachet. Yeah. You know what I'm trying to say. Right. It's not a bad thing. No, no, no. It's not the right setting for someone like myself.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But I think it would be fun. It would be something different that people aren't used to seeing or hearing. And I like it. So if the opportunity did present itself, obviously, you know, I will put in the work so I don't not just embarrass myself, but embarrass my employer as well. So, yeah, I called a game one time. CBS sent us all out into the field.
Starting point is 00:41:40 It sent me what I was. I'll call the Denver game. I think I forget who Boomer called. I think Danny did one and it was fun, you know, cause you're watching the game. And I remember we had the Jacksonville game and I said, the thing that scares me about Jacksonville is that when you have the record
Starting point is 00:41:54 that they have with Joe, I said, they'll try anything. They'll try to fake punch you. They'll own side, kick you. And what'd they do? Come out with an own side kick,
Starting point is 00:42:01 come out with a fake punt. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's fun. But man, I, man, I was like, man, I ain't really trying to study like this no more. I really not. I want to talk about the games, but I want to watch the game in real time,
Starting point is 00:42:18 okay, and then have a conversation. Now, we'll be able to have some callback. Yeah. Because we've watched this team play three or four games. So, Ocho, you remember that? Hey, remember that play got him in trouble before? Somebody beat him on a double move. We're talking about how you beat Trayvon D, you double move it.
Starting point is 00:42:39 If you just run that speed out, he going to sit on it now. Oh, he going to pick it. He's going the other way. You better miss out of out. He going to sit on it now. Oh, he going to pick it. He's going the other way. You better miss. You better miss out of bounds. Thank you. So I like to call back, but I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I don't. Me personally. Now, you might say, you know what? Yeah, man, I do. I want to challenge myself and see if I can do it at that level. So, hey, I'm going to set it up in my home and I'm going to devote my time. And that's what I'm going to do. But your boy,
Starting point is 00:43:08 I want no part of that. Yeah. Because see, here's the thing you can, you would be better at it than me because I'm too honest. And see, when you do play by play, you have to be a little bit more PC because if you're too honest,
Starting point is 00:43:23 now, when it comes down to meeting and production meeting you're not going to get anybody to come in there and talk to you anybody want to talk to you yep exactly
Starting point is 00:43:29 you would definitely be better at it than I am matter of fact okay so this is what I'm going to do I'm going to have Doug put the call in
Starting point is 00:43:37 so let me tell you my schedule for football season I'm going to tell you my schedule for football season this is how I'm going to view my next six months once August hits.
Starting point is 00:43:46 We got nightcap, right? Yeah. And then off of with Stephen A. I know Stephen A going to see this. I want to go on first take with you and Stephen A maybe once a week, just once a week. I ain't trying to be greedy. I just want to come on there. I want to talk football with y'all during football season.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Once a week, maybe a Monday, maybe a two, maybe a Monday. And we can cover whatever happened throughout the weekend. Boom. I already have Inside the NFL. You know, I do Inside the NFL with Ryan Clark and those boys. Boom. Play-by-play. You're not
Starting point is 00:44:18 going to have the time. You don't think so? Mm-mm. That's too much. Think about the play-by-play, what they do. All the play-by-play guys, what they do. Play-by-play, that's too much think about it think about the play-by-play what they do all the play-by-play guys what they do play-by-play that's it yeah that's it because you can't what you gonna do how you gonna do nightcap how you gonna do nightcap on a sunday when you just talked the game and all you all you saw was the game that you called oh okay okay okay that's where you run into the problem at see what you do now on sunday we get an opportunity to sit down and we get to watch all the games watch everything yeah that's
Starting point is 00:44:52 why people like man why you don't go to the game i say if i go to the game i'm only watching the game that i'm at what about the other games that we got to talk about and And I can't bull drive it. I actually got to watch the games. Right. I don't know. I don't know. I like that, though. I like that little play I just set up in my head, though.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah. But I'm just saying, how you going to talk on nightcap when you only watch one game? We talked five games. Okay, how about this? Okay, how about this? Forget play-by-play.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Inside the NFL, ESPN once a week with y'all, and nightcap. And then, you know, I got all my other jobs. I got with EA and all the other stuff I got going on. Boom. I'm trying to... My goal is during football season is to have
Starting point is 00:45:42 40 jobs. No, I'm serious. Because last six months, I mean, last year, is during football season is to have 40 jobs. No. No, I'm serious. Because last six months, I mean, last year, you know, six months out of the year, I had 37. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So I'm trying to increase that. If I can get to 40, 40 different gigs, well, that shit add up, my boy. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that shit add up. Because of you,
Starting point is 00:46:02 inside the NFL, and Doug had me by, I had about 30 other little small games. It felt like I was playing. Like I'm, I felt like shit, boy, it was coming in now. See,
Starting point is 00:46:12 that's the difference between you and me. I'm trying to work smarter. I ain't trying to work harder. I'm trying to, I'm trying to condense some things. Hey, did you hear the words you just said? You heard the words you just said?
Starting point is 00:46:21 You said work. This ain't even work. What is fun? Because this is what I want to do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, when you're doing something you want to do, it don said? You said work. This ain't even work. What is fun? Because this is what I want to do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, when you're doing something you want to do, it don't even feel like work. What if you, the amount of money that you're making
Starting point is 00:46:31 with those 40 jobs, you can make in four jobs? Oh, but hey, I had to be doing something different. See, that's what I'm saying. But see, that's what I'm saying. That's why when you become, and like, look, you thinking like, man, you know what? Man, let me start like,
Starting point is 00:46:50 let me see if I can get somebody to do X, Y, and Z. Right. Offer them infrastructure, get them going. And see, that's how I look at Ochoa. I'm trying to, look, I got a plan. I got a five-year plan.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because I'm not going to be trying to, I'm not going to be trying to do five, six, seven, eight, traveling like I'm trying to, look, I got a plan. I got a five-year plan. Because I'm not going to be trying to do five, six, seven, eight, traveling like I'm traveling. I ain't been home in 10 days. I mean, I'm going from L.A. to Indy to Atlanta to New York to Houston, back to L.A. to Vegas for five days, back to L.A. And then I'm gone again for three weeks. Man, I ain't trying to do that when I'm 65.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Right. Yeah. Because I don't want to work myself to death. I mean, at what point in time do I get an opportunity to enjoy what I've built? Cause a lot of times people work and I'm, I'm guilty of it. Oh,
Starting point is 00:47:41 Joe, I'm guilty. Oh yeah. Yeah. You the one that had no vacation. So you, you like you, you explaining to me, and you do the complete opposite of what you're preaching.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I am. But the thing is, Ocho, like you said, you love what you do. I mean, I love nightcap. I love, you know, the two days a week that I'm on ESPN. I love Club Che Che. I love, you know, the promotion of LePortier. Now, you know, we're talking about it. Like, okay, how do we also tour more with Nightcap?
Starting point is 00:48:13 We take the show on the road. I'm ready. I got my bags packed. That's the thing. Okay, we take the show on the road on a Saturday. And make sure we get back home by Sunday to watch the games, to be able to watch the games. So that's something that, you know, that we're working on.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And, you know, because we, you know, our fans want to see us. They want to see us, you know, do live events. And we want to try to accommodate them the best we possibly can, but still give them the quality that they expect. Also, this video is going viral on TikTok. Everyone is claiming to hear different sayings. We're going to play it with sound. Tell me, what do you hear?
Starting point is 00:48:56 Okay, okay, okay. Damn, they chanted something. They chanted something I couldn't. Oh, they're saying that is embarrassing. That is embarrassing. That is embarrassing. So somebody, their team is playing bad. Their team got to be playing bad.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That isn't mercy. That isn't my receipt. Lactase in pharmacy. Bart Simpson bouncing. Lobsters in motion. That is embarrassing. Rotate piracy of baptism piracy. Well, all of them in motion. That is embarrassing. Rotate piracy of baptism piracy. Well, all of them is wrong. That is embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:49:30 You can't tell. Go ahead. Play it again. That is embarrassing. Hold on. Embarrassing. That is embarrassing. I think that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Their team is getting their ass whooped. That's why they're saying that. embarrassing that is that is yes i think that's that's embarrassing yeah their team their team is getting their ass whooped that's why they that's why they're saying that that's that's the home team chan yes and they are that that's that's exactly what i mean they gotta be irish uh yep probably probably maybe irish scottish wales i mean that's that's that's because it kind of sounds like, it's kind of like like Conor McGregor-ish. Yeah, yeah, a little bit, a little bit. But, you know, it's funny,
Starting point is 00:50:11 the European accent sounds like that as well. But like I said, you know, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, all that, you know. Yeah. But that's what it says. Ocho, a couple has gone viral for text between them. But god damn But that's what it says. Ocho, a couple has gone viral for text between them.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Well, God damn, that's a lot. And what happened is while he's gone viral, the mother is breastfeeding the child. Okay, okay. The father is getting a divorce because he says she's letting another man
Starting point is 00:50:42 put her breast in his mouth. Hold on, hold on, hold on hold on now do me a favor and rewind and bring it back to me one more time okay this couple they're married okay they have a son right the mother is breastfeeding the son the father is upset because she's breastfeeding the son because he says she has her breast in another man's mouth. She says, that's not another man. That's your son. He says it's even more embarrassing because it's a man and it's our son. So it's incestual. Incestuous.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Man, tripping, man. He really tripping, man. Are we talking about an infant? I know he's not calling an infant a man. Yes. What's wrong with Buddy, man? You know, honestly, you know what? Think about it.
Starting point is 00:51:33 He's looking for a scapegoat. He's looking for a reason to get up out of there. Right. He's looking for a reason to get up out of there. At what point do we say, you know what? Or even how does your mind even go to that point to say, you know what? That's my son, but I don't approve of my son breastfeeding, which is better than any of the things that you can buy off the goddamn shelf.
Starting point is 00:51:53 He said that's a little man. He said that's a little man. And you got your boob in his mouth. And it's your son, so it's incestuous. Yeah. Hey, listen. Buddy looking for a way out of there, huh? He looking for a way. Because that's just, listen, buddy looking for a way out of there, huh? He looking for a way.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Because that's just the goddamn ridiculous. He looking for a way out. That's all. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
Starting point is 00:52:33 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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