Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: 2024 Eagles GOAT?, Commanders eyeing Kupp, Lamar’s new hairstyle

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to CBS ranking every Super Bowl Champion since the year 2000, with the 2024 Philadelphia Eagles claiming the top spot and Unc is adamant that the 2000 Baltimore Ravens would have dominated the 2024 Eagles. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the Washington Commanders looking at a trade for Los Angeles Rams WR Cooper Kupp, Baltimore Ravens QB Lamar Jackson shows off his new shoulder-length hairstyle and much more!05:35 - CBS Super Bowl Rankings11:10 - Cooper Kupp may go to Commanders16:10 - Joe Mixon wins appeals17:30 - Lamar Jackson’s hair experiments29:21 - Travis Hunter at NFL Combine31:34 - Shohei Ohtani’s parking33:00 - Men vs women cheaters42:22 - Q&Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Since 2000. Okay, here they are. Since 2000. Yeah, okay. The 24 Eagles are one. The 2019 Chiefs are two.

The 16 Patriots are three. The 2013 Seahawks are four. The 2020 Bucks are three. The 2013 Seahawks are four. The 2020 Bucks are five. The 06 Colts, 06, 04 Patriots, 08 Steelers, 09 Saints, 2010 Packers, 17

Eagles, 14 Patriots, 2012 Ravens. I guarantee you, if they let us play by the rules that they played by, not one of those offense scored on that Ravens defense I guarantee you none of them will get more than 20 points I could have told you that let me take that back

they won't get more than 14 points listen I could have told you that how many yards Saquon had 57 he'd have 37 against that defense hey he had 57 He'd have 37 against that defense. Hey. He'd have 37.

He had 57. He'd have 37. Hey, it was different back then, man. And that's no disrespect to the play. Yeah, they did not let you play like that. I don't think they understand. I don't think they understand. What?

At great as great. No, they don't know that. At great as Saquon is that Baltimore that 2000 Ravens defense man come on man they going they going sideline to sideline

right along with you you not you not going downhill you not you not running tall you not running stretch be moving nobody take that take that Eagles offensive line running tall. She's not running stretch. Ain't moving nobody off the...

Take that Eagles offensive line against y'all D-line back then. That 2000 Ravens D-line. You're not running because you got Sam and Goose. Man, please. And Ray running free. Because of Stan and Goose. Ray hunting.

Yeah, Sam and Goose. Yeah. Yeah. You got 340. You got 350. And Ray Free. That would have been ugly. That would have been ugly.

Listen. Just to be able to talk. I get it. It's exciting. It's exciting. It's kind of like Barry. You had to see Barry in person to appreciate him. To understand and appreciate him, yeah.

To see Jerry. I was in the league when Jerry said he got the triple crown in 90. So, like, those great players, you had to see them. Right. To see Derek Thomas, to see Bruce Smith, to see Reggie White, to see those guys, to see Prime. I'm talking about a Prime, Prime. Up close. To see a

Why do you think I always speak so highly? Why do you think I always speak so highly of Randy? Why do I always speak so highly of T.O.? Why do I always speak so highly of A-Folk out here from Dade County, Liberty City, Antonio? Being able to see them dudes up close, and I've been watching

the game of football for a very, very long time, for a very, very long time. It's different when you look at stats and numbers. The finished product, when you actually have the opportunity to see how the product was made. When you saw the product in the lab. When you saw the

product up close on grass and understanding, looking at Randy Moss and the DB is playing 10 yards off, and Moss don't even close the cushion, he throw his hand up, and still... Come on, man!

What? What are we talking about? Unbelievable. Yeah, but those rules, look, you can't play like that anymore because, you know, those guys, go back and look at that 2000

and see how many quarterbacks they knocked out. I mean, I saw a clip the other day of some of Ray Lewis's hits, of some of Shug's hits. I saw that. Y'all got it. You got it.

I'm talking about, go back and watch 2000 and watch that defense. It was different, man. Remember, in 16 games, they gave up 165 points. I don't think people understand. And they gave up 35 in one game.

They gave up 16 total points in the postseason in four games. That's crazy. I don't think people understand how good they were. Listen, from top to bottom, man, there was no weak. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We had C-Mac and Heavy. Dwayne Starks. We had Ken Herring and Heavy, Dwayne Starks,

we had Ken Herring, and we had Woody Rod at safety, and our nickel was Corey Harris, and our dime was Bailey and Trap. Corey Harris, man.

I want to know where Corey is, man. Hopefully he ain't... Man, I ain't going to put the man business out there, but he was a wild dude, man. I would leave it at that. Because, you know, me, Corey, Woody, and Ray. Yeah. That was the group.

So I was going to say Cole was wild. The commander is potentially interested in trading for Cooper Cup. Jeremy Fowler reports, talking to people around the league, he will have a market because he's so quarterback friendly. Certainly Washington is looking for a complimentary number two receiver. Washington is looking to make big moves this offseason. Ocho, could they actually land Cooper Cup and Miles Garrett? Both?

Is that possible? Well, actually, you know, actually it is possible, especially with the cap going up to what it's going up after the news I saw today. It's possible. 22 to 25 million increase. It's possible, and I like the move. I like the move, but you know what that does? What? Terry McLaurin,

you add Cooper Cup, I think Naomi Brown is still there, obviously. It takes some of the pressure off of Jaden Daniels. You got Zach Ertz. You got Brother Ertz. It takes some of the pressure off Jaden Daniels. You mean I get to have Cooper Cupp who still is an elite route runner

he can play outside he can play inside he can do just about anything he can run the route tree intermediate short hell he sneaky fast too with that if you want to send him D I like the move what's about a triple crown runner, man?

He was just a triple crown winner not too long ago. Ain't nothing wrong with him. And just the nature of the business on how it works. Go ahead, get him over there. You made it to the NBA championship. What you got? Imagine if you add that to the piece. Imagine you add that piece to the puzzle.

Yeah. Man, please. But look, and if I'm Washington, look, I'm going all in. Because I'm doing everything I possibly can, Ocho, because in a couple of years, I'm going to have to see it. You got to see it. Yeah. Yeah.

He's going to show up at the pay window, Ocho. Hey, you know who's going to show up at the window? You remember... Hey, you know I ain't going to show up at the window? You watch Martin? Yeah. Remember the Christmas episode when they got stuck in the bus terminal and Mark went to the window asking for some quarters to make a call? Yeah.

That's how James Daniels is going to be at that window. Yeah. He ain't going to make no call, though. And Josh Harris look they made it abundantly clear they're trying to win oh yeah you see the way

the way they move how they do things they're trying to win imagine Johnson look imagine what the Lakers look at that they don't

they don't spend they I don't know they print money in L.A. it was the Dodgers they got Mookie. Hell, in just two salaries, they got a billion dollars? Yeah, Shohei, Brady Freeman.

Mookie? Mookie. And they got pictures now? I got a question. Yeah. Listen, I don't want to sign ignorant. Honestly, I don't. Where all that money coming from, man?

Where all that money coming from? Because when I watch games, the game don't never, the stand don't never be full. I'm not talking about the Dodgers. I'm talking about the Dodgers. The Dodgers every year have the most fans. They have, yeah, every year. Yeah, I'm just saying. Boy, look here. You ain't never been to Charmaine's Ravine.

Boy, you talking about a... Yeah. I wasn't specifically talking about the dollars. I'm just saying in general. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, they got two $700 million players. Two. And they got what you call a making 40 plus million. He got making 40 a year. Aaron Judge. He got making 40 a year. Aaron Judge.

He got nine years, 360. Oh, they got, I don't know. I don't know what they, tell me so we both know. Because if they got a money tree, I'm going to go chop it down. Man, I'm telling you, man. Listen, I was a highly sold out prospect coming out of high school man I was a five tooler and every time I look at them deals

sometimes I always say you know what I should have stuck with baseball I don't know if your tool was a lawnmower a bag hold a rake a pick a shovel I don't know what your tools were but they damn sure wouldn't

apply to baseball. I know that. I'm talking about baseball. Miami Beach Senior High. Man, look me up. Google me. You can Google me. You can Google me.

Yeah. Yeah. Pitcher. I was a slugger. Played first, second, third, and outfield. I did everything. Yeah, you did. I'll tell you no lie.

You know, the Marlins were trying to draft me out of high school right before they won the World Series in 1997. They did, huh? Yeah, they were trying, but my grandma said no. My grandma ain't play that. Well, you need to focus on school. She was tripping. That didn't work.

Oh, Joe. Joe Mixon won his appeal over the $25,000 fine he received following Houston's playoff loss to the Chiefs in the divisional round of the playoffs appeals officer Chris Palmer hey is that a Chris Palmer used to be offensive coordinator for the Jacks explained

in his letter to Mixon that the going through and hearing the process he found that mixon did not necessarily publicly criticize the officials during the appeals hearing you stated what you meant by your statement referring to the officials right as you know statements can be interpreted differently by every individual and it seems like you clearly understand the weight and the detriment of public criticism towards officials can be given how impactful your platform is as a player,

which I appreciate. I like it. That's dope. Now listen, this doesn't happen often, man. Nah. This doesn't happen often. When they take your money, they rarely give it back. They rarely give it back. They rarely give it back. So this is a big

win. This is a big win for Brother Mixon. You know what? I'm glad that the league office and the powers that be did it right by him in understanding he wasn't chastising and it wasn't about the refs or the officials in there officiating. So that's a good

thing. Okay. about the refs or the officials and their officiating. So that's a good thing. Ocho, Lamar Jackson is in his bones era. He shows off his new hairstyles. Emo Lamar. Hey,

that's raw. I like that. I like, I like, I like, I like that. I like that. I like that.

That's dope. You ever, you ever had your hair straightened like that, Ocho I like that That's dope You ever had your hair Straightened like that Ocho? Nah You know No No Cause you know

I had dreads I had dreads So I And they was locked up So I could never take it out And have my hair Perm Or have my hair

Straight like that Ocho your hair won't grow Who? Your hair Just like mine No Your whole life Now you bald

Hold on I can grow a hair Full of hair I've shown No you can't I've shown that Curl Your hair is just like mine. Your whole life. Now you bald. Hold on. I can grow a hair full of hair. No, you can't. I've showed that countless times. Ocho. Ocho. I have a full hair line. Everybody 15 years ago had hair.

I'm talking about just... Okay, do you want me to grow my hair out? No. That's your hair. I'm just saying, the only reason I cut my hair consistently and I've been doing it for so long is I don't like the maintenance that comes with having hair. I don't want to put grease on my scalp. I don't want to train my hair to lay down. I don't want waves.

It's like a whole tedious process. And I got sick of it. When I'm ready to go, I want to get out the shower, and I want to dry my head and walk out the house. Sound like a man that said, I want to be broke. Man, you think I won't have money in my pocket? And in my bank account? It's just too hard to keep up with.

Right. I understand what you're saying. But listen, that's apples and oranges. Them two different scenarios. No, Ocho, you can't grow hair. And if you grow it, it's minimal.

I got a full set of hair right now. Look at my hairline. You see my hairline coming in? Yeah. You see my hairline coming in? No, no, you got to go a little

further back. You started a 50-yard line. Whoa, whoa, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. My hair like... Started at 50.

Listen, listen, my hair... Matter of fact, I'm going to get a shave up just for you. What? Shave what up? I'm going to let my hair grow and I'm going to get a shave up. So I can show you I can grow a full set of hair. And I got good hair. I got good hair.

What is that huh where is that I just showed you Ocho you pointed back here bro you pointed back there my hairline is right there it's right there you're looking right at it

it's right there. You're looking right at it. It's right there. Ocho, from your hairline Ocho, from your hairline to your forehead, that's at least a $20 Uber ride. That's at least $20. Listen, my hair is too small, so I know that's not true, but I'm just saying

my hairline is intact. Ocho, you see how shiny that is? Ocho, hair won't grow there. So I know that's not true, but I'm just saying my hairline is intact. I do. I don't. You see how shiny that is? Your hair won't grow there. What do you mean? I shine. That's the light. That's the light.

That's the light shining on my forehead. That's for my skincare routine. That's why. That's why I look like this. That's why I look like this. That's why the ladies love me. It's this, the chocolate. Yeah, you're chocolate now.

You know that. You get no debate. Hey, no debate for me. Yeah, they like that. Hey, I solemnly swear. Do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, sir. I do.

Yeah, one thing about it. Yeah. When it comes to chocolate, one thing thing about women they ain't got no problem getting cavities you hear me talk to me now Lord have mercy Josh Jesus

what's wrong your man here what I'm just telling you I'm just telling you I'm not telling you what I I ain't you. Yes! I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Hey, look. Black and Barge.

All I know is this. If you'd have been my age in the 80s, you'd have got no place. Because Black wasn't in. They like Lasky. They like L to Barge. Chico to Barge. They like them type of dudes. No, no, no.

It don't matter what they like. There's something I had that nobody else didn't. And I still got it. Huh? It's called. It wasn't until Micah Jordan. Micah Jordan came in. Wesley Snipes came in.

That's what put us on the map. I've been on top of the charts since they came in. So about mid-80s, like 80, 80, Mike came in at 84. So like 86, my senior year. Right. Been top of the charts. Man, that ain't it. That ain't it. 40. 40 years senior year, been top of the charts. Man, that ain't it. That ain't it.

40. 40 years I've been at top of the charts. I feel you. Hey, I had a special gift. I had a special gift. Al B. Shore. They mentioned Al B. Shore. Yeah, Al B. Shore.

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, see? Chico DeMarge. El DeMarge. Hey, hey, them boys. Them boys were nice now. Yeah. If I was there during they time when the light-skinned dudes was in,

there was something I had that they didn't. I don't care about you making no music. I don't care about you singing to the women. You hear me? Because I had to give a gab. It was all about wordplay. Huh? Nah.

Huh? They wouldn't let you talk to them. Oh, they going to talk to this. They going to tell you. Oh, you're telling me. The brother, dark-skinned brother, we ain't get no play on you. They going to talk to this. They're going to talk. Ochoa is telling it. The brother and dark skin brother, we ain't getting no play, Ochoa. They're going to talk to Sugar, you hear me? I'm telling you.

Hey, you got a style. Hey, I'm going to make you laugh. I'm going to laugh right at the drums. Hey. Hey. Boy, you ain't getting no play, Ochoa. Went out of style just like Pauly Elston. You can make a comeback, but... Hey, but now that I think about it,

Chico and A.L. DuBois, now you got me thinking about the music they made, man. Oh, they sang back then. I'm talking about that's some good music, though. They sang, oh yeah. The music from the 80s, it was different. 80s and early yeah oh my god

oh they but see but see I don't remember hearing nothing about no garden tools it wasn't no no three-oh-fours

they didn't sing about that they sung about women they sung about ladies they talk about love now now they talking about jumping up and down

and you need to walk out of foolishness you know man I just like she oh man that's crazy they just don't make they just don't make it like

they don't they don't they don't make music like they used to and everybody I talked to Ocho they said uh you know

R&B ain't dead but bro they don't sing like they used to sing. Nah. They don't. Hold on. They don't beg.

No, they ain't begging. They don't beg. Because, see, the women used to make you beg to get up out of it. Hey, what song? Now they begging you to get up. Now they begging you. What song? What song?

Well, they ain't begging me. What song was it? I give you my credit card, my keys in my house. I can't think of... I gave you my son, the rain. Yeah. Who does that say? I'll pay your rent.

I'll buy your clothes. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. That was back in the day. Now, see, if I played that song for somebody, they'd know you lied. They'd say, you broke. We see where you live at

You can't You can't Hey chat What song is that chat Uh I give you this Uh Oki

Oki Sweat was the number one Baby No what song is that He was Baby That might have been Babyface After seven

Take six All of them I don't know There was the days After 7, Take 6 All of them Them was the days, little chokes Them was the days Amy Faye Talk about that Look here I just missed those days

I just want to go one year. Uh-huh. We don't know about it. Hold on. What y'all know about Take Six? That's a gospel group, Take Six. After stuff. Well, they don't call no woman no 304.

No. They don't call no garden tool. Uh-huh. No freak, no jump. Just one year. I just want to go one year. 304 no don't call no garden tool no no freak no jump just what this one year I just want to go one year for one year

all the music that what I want man if they do that they gonna get me back into it man hold on

Peebo Bryson man Smokey Robinson but ain't nobody bagging like Freddie Jackson Oh, Fred Fred begging Man Man, y'all know Freddie

Beg right up Like, damn With Lenny Williams I gotta take him glass, though Big Lenny, so? With Lenny Williams. I got to take a glass though. Big Lenny slow. With Lenny Williams. Cause I love you.

Same cause I love you. I don't know what that brother was going through in that studio, but I'll hurt for him every time I hear that song. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and

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Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn.

In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you grew up like in the late 70s, early 80s, Big Lenny. Oh, he say... He talking about he cried. He said he cried.

And see, back then, Ocho, people don't... Like I said, you have to be my age. Is that the TV actually went off at midnight. Yeah. The TV just go fuzzy. There was no programming after midnight. So he said, I listened until the TV went off. Oh.

And he listened to his records until he didn't want to hear them anymore. I went to. But you got to realize, they had Teddy Pendergrass. Oh, my God. Yeah, they had Marvin Gaye, and they had Freddie Jackson, and they had Barry White. Bro, they had Luther.

Man, they... Man. All the groups, all the groups could sing. Man, I'm done with it. They ain't gonna have no more. Travis Hunter is now expected to attend the 2025 NFL Combine

as both a wide receiver and a DB. Is the league split between him being a wide receiver and a corner Ocho? No, no. They're not split, but they are understanding. Listen, he's made it abundantly clear that he's going to do what he did at Colorado wherever he goes. And I think

the fact that they're allowing him to do both, that's a good thing. Because he gets to show off his skill set and what he can do at both positions. I like it.

I like it for him. I really do. I'm excited to see how it looks. I think it's easy to build a package around a wide receiver on a corner. Right, right, right.

So you play corner, you play your customary snaps, and then we come in a situation and we'll give you a package. We'll give you, you know, let's just say what you think, oh, Joe, 10, 15 plays on offense? Yeah, something like that.

You run about, what, 65, 70 plays in the game? 15, 10 or 15? It's best for you. On offense and then the rest on defense. Yeah. Absolutely. I like that.

Because you, hey, you walk with a fine line to try to give him, you know, 65 plays on defense and then another 30, 40 plays on offense. Yeah. Or you walk on a tight rope, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you know, the NFL plays a little harder, Ocho.

Yeah. They strain them hams and qu players a little harder Ocho they put them they strain them hams and quads a little bit more especially when you get them when you get them gangsters in front of you at receiver ball game hey listen

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It's gonna be some good work Pickens Yeah man Nico Collins Yep It's different. You're going to have your hands full. But it's possible.

It's possible. I like it. Shohei Otani. He can hit. Oh, that's me. He can pitch. That's me. Ocho.

But there's something that he isn't good at. Parallel parking. Take a look at this video. Oh, he can't even park? Oh, he coming at an angle too hard. Ah! Nah. Bro, bro, what you doing?

Harden the wheel. Shohei, I wouldn't even worry about it. Yeah. I'd get me a driver Listen when you got That kind of money you ain't got to drive And you ain't got to parallel park And parallel parking obviously

Depending on who you are is not that easy But I know what he can do He might have had his music up too loud You know black folk Listen we just had a parallel park Once we turn the music down. Once we turn the music down. Oh, we good.

You got to look. You got to know how to hook that. Hey, we turn the music down for everything. Hell, if I'm looking for something, I turn the sound down. Like that's going to help. Like that's going to help. Like it's going to help, right? Hey, black folk funny with that.

Black folk funny with that Black folks funny with that You looking for something? Yeah Turn the sound down You trying to park? Turn the sound down That's funny What we got here Ocho

A woman tweeted Men get cheated on all the time in state. They just smart enough not to be telling anybody. I keep telling y'all this. Are women more allowed about being cheated on by men, Ocho? Yeah. Most definitely.

All the time. All the time. It happens all the time. And most of the time, most men do stay. And sometimes some of the men that do stay, it is simply because sometimes shelter i don't have anywhere else to go sometimes you know listen she is she i'm not saying she's the breadwinner but you're in a position where you're moving with her you're staying with her it's her place so hell if she does step out

you ain't got nowhere to go sometimes Sometimes you try to work things out, and then you got some dudes that are non-negotiable, and he out. Yeah. Now. But see, if you date privately, you can do this.

Because, see, everybody ain't going to be in your... If you public everybody in your business. Yeah. Because they're going to know. So, you see, the knight have a thousand eyes. Well, most knights have a thousand and two because somebody sees you.

Okay. I like that. I like that. So, with that being said, you're right. Some men, that's a non-negotiable

because, hey, that's, all right, that's my package. I'm the only one that opens that. And the thing is about,

now, it used to be this way it's not this way in the middle women have adopted a mindset like a man oh yeah yeah they figure anything huh yeah oh they have they have big time big time they figure anything a man could do oh he doing it oh i could do it too oh tip for tat oh that's what you okay back and then you know ocho here's the thing this is what gets you you know what back. And then you know, Ocho, here's the thing. This is what gets you. You know what she does for you. You know what she does for you.

And the phone. Hey. Don't throw up. Don't throw up. Don't throw up. Remember, remember at one time, what did I just tell you on the previous show

about being number one and being number two? You've been... Yeah, but... Hold off on some of that, Ocho. You've been in the number two... You've been in that number two position. Yeah, I've been...

Yeah, I've been... I've been in the pole position. You already know what time it is. Hey, I've been the pace car and I've also in the pole position. You already know what time it is. Hey, I've been the pace car, and I've also been the chase car. Just stay with me, Ocho. That's a good one. I like that. I've been pacing.

Yeah. Hey, yeah. And I've also tried to pull the slingshot move. Hey, he block it. Yeah. Hey, hit that turn. I bump draft. Hey, I bump draft it.

Yes, sir. Move him on out the way. I pull up in there. yeah hey hit that turn I bump draft hey I bump draft it yes sir move them all out the way I pull up in the remember Grace Jones had a song say pull up to my bumper baby hey

it's a dirty game in a long black limousine yeah it's a dirty game yeah so now Ocho because women have adopted

the mentality because it's like I shouldn't say all, but there was a situation you didn't find like these women now? Yeah. Oh, they don't play? They don't play. They do not play. And then tell you, yeah.

I did. And well, yeah. I see clips like that all the time. Oh, you slept with such and such? And did. Oh. Hey. Hey, that thing, hey. Like, hey, man, look here.

That's why Ocho, man, look. When you're young, you don't really know any better. But as you start to get older, I don't play ball. Hey, you got a man? I'm good. Don't worry. You let me worry about him.

No, no, no. It's different. Your man might be doing something else. But if Shannon Sharp, he find out Shannon Sharp, oh, no, no, it ain't even,

that's okay, but it's not that serious. I'm sure I can find someone, but my grandfather used to say, boy, everybody has somebody, it's just to what extent? Man or woman,

everybody has somebody, what is the extent? Is that their wife? That's their husband. That's their significant other. That's their girl. Whatever the case may be. Yeah.

Defying somebody, I'm talking about just start as street. Yeah. No such thing. No such hopeless thing. And so. You know, women play a dangerous game, huh? Yeah. But that's stepping out.

You never know. You know how dudes feel about their women? Yeah. They'll kill you by their women, man. Yeah. Girlfriends, wives, or even somebody that I'm investing my time in. And then people get, oh, man, why you won't go to? No, bro.

I done got two strikes. I got two strikes oh joe oh yeah oh yeah and baseball hey i'm still at the plate but i ain't gonna get no another strike you never catch me slipping again yeah bro man people don't play by that so why would why would i even put myself back in that situation again yeah and be how be, how about, I mean, that's when you're most vulnerable, Ocho. You sleep. Stop me from, that's what stopped me from sleeping naked. Right. I don't want nobody to get to drop it, man.

I can't tussle with nobody naked, Ocho. Hey, come on, let me put some clothes on. Please let me put some clothes on. Ocho, I can't walk with nobody naked. Hey, bro, let me put my shorts on. Right, right, right, right, right. But you already know, Ocho, somebody come up and I'm a shooter, brother, side. Ain't nobody trying to bump.

Right. So just keep yourself out of that situation, bro. It ain't even worth it. Yeah. She got somebody. She tell you she got somebody. Hey, what do you got to do with me? That was between you and him.

Yeah. Yeah, but when he find out, that's between both of y'all. Hey, listen, one more thing about it if when you you do find out i wish i wish fellas understand you know we we continue to be in relationships or or or unions with an individual that we think they're one way you know especially publicly and you you hope they respect you you know privately and when you find out do you see signs all you, you know, privately. And when you find out that you see signs, all you have to do is pay attention to the signs, huh? You get me? It's really easy

when you've been the other guy for long enough, you understand what it looks like. So you pay attention to the signs. And when things don't look right, and your antenna's up, you already know what time it is. Yeah. You know what time it is. And all of a sudden, she didn't like to work out, and all of a sudden, she's working out.

She's working out for somebody else to see her naked. Hey, it's easy. Do what you want to do with it. Now, y'all could, oh, man, I'm telling you. Hey. Hey, what I tell you all the time, manage your expectations. Yeah.

Once you're able to manage them it's easy to see whoever it is for who they are in general okay that's what you want okay bet you're going back you're going back to business yeah so the game is the game yeah it is what it is I mean but hey I don't know people I know people that have hurt people about a woman and I know people that have been hurt about a woman I done heard many stories

I done heard many stories boy I ain't what they call it these days like crashing out oh yeah crashing out yeah for sure I'm not I'm not crashing out by Nathaniel

oh no no no zero no no no no I can't do that zero let me say like the kids say oh ball up top who's next the fuck Let me say, like the kids say, oh, ball up top. Who's next?

The fuck? Oh, my God. Dog it. I've been doing good shows in a row. I'm sorry. Hey, what it is? Don't tell me. I mean, I think people understand is that, like, for me, it's just not worth it.

I stand way more to lose than gain. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again real quick for the it. I stand way more to lose than gain. Say it again. Say it again real quick for the people. I stand way more to lose than gain. There we go. Long live the same base. Yeah, for sure. I'm like, oh, no, I'm good. Hey, and then quick to holler, oh, he doing his thing.

Okay, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Let him do his thing, and you find somebody else to do your thing with. But it ain't going to be me. It ain't. I ain't talking. Hey, I done got too old to fight. I ain't talking. Hey, pick yourself up.

I ain't got no business fighting. I'm about to be a grandpa for the second time. Hey, here you go. Congrats, congrats, congrats. Yeah, baby. Hey, I'm going to see my grandkids. I'm going to Congrats, congrats, congrats. Yeah, man. Hey, I'm going to see my, I'm going to see some, I'm going to see my grandkids.

I'm going to have about five or six of them. Hey, I got two daughters. Hopefully they get, they get married soon and start a family, but hey,

nah, man, I can't do that. I can't even, it ain't even, it ain't even worth it. What we got? What we got? All right alright Ocho

now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q&A Q&A you might enjoy that Dennis Bari Barry

Barry Bari 2000 Ravens versus 2000 Bucks in the Super Bowl. Who win and what's the score? What, 3-3? 3-3? 6-3?

Let's see. We talk about this all the time, especially me, Sap, and Brooks. They swear their team was better than ours. I mean, that defense. Bro, how many points did y'all give up? How many? I think our defense gave up. I think we gave up.

We gave up. They gave up. They, I said we. They gave up 165. But I think they gave up, averaged giving up like 260 yards a game. Let that sink in now. Quarterbacks throw for 260 a game.

Running the football, throwing the football, jailbreak screen, bubble screen, smoke screen, reverses. That's what they gave up. Hey, I done told you Sam, I done told you Brooks. That 2000 Ravens defense,

when you talk about defenses, you got to look. The 85 Bears, the 2000 Ravens, and pick any defense on the Steelers in the 70s. That's it. Nothing away from

Seattle defense, the Legion of Boom in 20, what was that, 2012? No, 2013. They beat the Broncos in 2013. Take another way from the Bucs but mm-mm that 2000 Ravens defense

we put people like they put they I keep saying we well I was on the Ravens so I was saying we we put people like the game so I would say the Ravens I would say the Ravens win I say we win 10-7 I'm going to say the Ravens win. I say we win 10-7. I'm good for a tub.

I'm good for a tub. P.S. New Jersey said, name the Giants week one starter for my depressed New York Giants friends. Also, fans in or out of the playoffs next year? I'm going to say or out of the playoffs next year? I will say week one, I will say Aaron Rodgers or the guy that was at Minnesota last year, Sam Donald.

Who week one started for you, Ochoa? The Giants. Oh. You know what I think I think 12 goes from Jersey on down to New York

what you think but he Ocho no yeah I mean that's a good I mean look and whoever they look

at sits behind him for a year we know the Giants need a quarterback we know Cleveland needs a quarterback we know the Raiders need a quarterback

the Titans potentially need a quarterback the Browns need a quarterback there are five teams right there at the top of our head

that need a quarterback but what Aaron has to understand Ocho my grandfather my grandfather said boy production and tolerance.

When production up here, so is tolerance. You notice when he's winning MVPs, ain't nobody have no problem with Pat McAfee. You notice the difference? Production here, tolerance is here.

Tolerance will never get bigger than production. Let that sink in when you're on your job. As long as you produce it at a high level, they'll let you show up late, so forth and so on. But when your production slip, so does the tolerance for said behavior. He's finding that out.

Y'all think Aaron Rodgers just got, let me ask you a question, Chad. Do y'all think Rodgers just got like this when he got to the Jets? Or y'all think this was his behavior even when he was in Green Bay? Mm-hmm. They can be evil, though, Joe.

Production intolerance. We riding around. they can be evil Ocho production and tolerance we ride and ride if production is here and top they gonna flip it yeah fans playoffs next year Ocho your dolphins

yeah what you mean playoffs yes yes what you mean Ocho do you know how many times you couldn't say play or offs you couldn't say foot or ball you know how many times you couldn't say it two

first of all my team made the playoffs both of my team made the playoffs Or ball. You know how many times you couldn't say it? Two. First of all, my team made the playoffs. Both of my teams made the playoffs. Neither one of your teams made the playoffs. Your team was gone one week. One week. We went to Cancun. We went to Cancun on a Monday.

Two, six days later, you was there. Don't see what you're saying. Yeah, you're right. All right. Now, the first time, the second time, no,

we got, what's it called? We did, we did, we lasted two weeks. The Ravens won a game, beat the Steelers. Okay. I'll let you have it.

D-Chad said, Uncle Joe, great content as usual. Listen, can you guess? Please give me a shout out to my brother in arms, Kyle Muggleton, and congratulate him on retiring from the Navy after 20

plus years of service. We absolutely can. Kyle, congratulations. Thank you for your 20 plus years of service. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Takes a special type of person to go fight abroad for the protections here. And sometimes you have to go fight

in countries that people don't speak your language, don't particularly care about you. But Kyle, Team Nightcap want to thank you for your 20 plus years of service. Yes, sir. And all the young men and women around this world, wherever you are fighting for this country we greatly appreciate your service but kyle special uh shout out to you 20 plus years in the navy congrats bro the real mccoy where you're blessed raise your standard

of giving we rise in proportion to how much we lift others that's just you as you stated with people with money it is it is it is it is you know the real McCoy you're absolutely right I mean I've always but I've always been like this Ocho

I would always you know if I had always been like this, Ocho. I would always, you know, if I had, I would like grandma, brother, my sister. Like I said, my sister. My sister hadn't had a job. My sister about to be 65. My sister ain't worked in 40 years. That's just who I am. But I got to be a little bit more judicial with my giving.

It's okay to say no, Ocho. Yeah. Because I'm not necessarily sure that everybody that what I do, I don't know necessarily they appreciate it. They feel like it's. That's what I'm supposed to do. Right. Man, you got money.

You got all that money. Yeah, but I'm working. I mean, I mean, you know, people got great ideas, man. I mean, if I if I had it, bro, you ain't never had no money. What you mean if you had it? Right. You do a real lot of business. I've been knowing you my whole life. But I will.

Look, I just got to be smarter in my selection of who I give it to. Right. That's it. I'm still in some charities, you know, worthy causes. Dog! Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, hey fam, have your family values and experience shaped your

passion for giving back and supporting? Yeah. I thank dog for me. I would remember not having and I was wondering, I was, dog, for me, I would always, I remember, like, not having, and I was wondering, I was always like, man. And you see stories, Ocho,

kind of like we see now, somebody helping out, somebody buying your car, somebody buying groceries. I was like, man, I wish somebody would see us in a situation and give my grandma $100.

Or give my, like, buy my grandma something. I always, i was like damn nothing good ever not knowing no show right what god had had in store for my brother that one day we were going to have an abundance more than we could have ever imagined um it did i've always i've always been generous. Oh, Joe, I've always, it's like, if I had $5,

no, I had two 50. Cause my brother had two 50. I've always been like that. Yeah. Always, always. Um,

and I, maybe, maybe that's why I'm, maybe that's why I'm so blessed. Yeah. We in the same boat. We in the same boat. I don't, I don't, I don same boat. I don't mind helping people.

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you do it so often and for so long. You do it so often and for so long to where they don't even value it anymore until it has removed itself and then you can see on the outside looking in what you were getting.

Yeah. But I've never forgotten people that helped me yeah saying like my high school coach man my high school coach every day he would break take me home from school because i had track practice and even when i wasn't you know he would take me home from basketball uh basketball practice and i remember like i was always the last one that he would drop off always man cold man we don't want to ride it man you got a pump sunshine out there with sharp state go come on drop us off coach so coach coach all would drop everybody off and then uh would take me home right every day after practice, get what you want. I get a honey bun, I get

a bag of chips, I get a Gatorade. Coach y'all did that every day for like three years. I never forgot it. Plus, he was a diabetic, and me and a dude named Rochester Fudge used to eat his graham crackers and his

bananas. He's like, sucker, y'all know I got diabetes. I need that. Coach, man, them honey made graham crackers, they were good. So, I got me a little money. I said, Coach y'all, there used to be

a Ford dealership in my hometown called Glenville. I said, Coach y'all, go get what you want. He said, you for real? I said, Coach, go get what you want. He said, you for real? I said, go get what you want. Man, that joker went and got a, what did he get, a crown? He got a crown, big Ocho.

Yeah. Man, you ain't got, Coach Hall, get the car. Get the car. That's live. Oh, man. Coach Hall, Ocho, that's live oh man coach hall ocho that's the thing and the thing is like my brother only played my brother played his because coach hall only coached my brother one year now coached him every year in track right but he only coached him one year in football that was a senior year he coached me all my oh you coach me in track all four years

coach me in football all four years no coach me three years uh and so but he drove the bus for my mom so my mom graduated in 60 he was driving the bus and coaching back then coached all my uncles all my aunts and them that had drivers there ed and went through him. And I was the last one to graduate in 86. So that's a 20-year time span. But here's the kicker, though, Joe. Coach Hall lived in Savannah, which is 63 miles from Glenville. Yeah, dang. He drove every day.

He drove from, he would, Coach Hall would drive to Glenville, teach school, drive us to track meets in Savannah. Right. Drive back, drop everybody off, and drive back home. So, and now now Coach Hall Coach Hall was extremely happy when I made the haul because he kept calling but my brother is like a son to it

he loved don't get me wrong don't think he don't love me because he went to a lot more of my games but playing in Baltimore we're in the same division as Jacksonville he's coming hey you got it I said Coach Hall I got you He went to a lot more of my games. But playing in Baltimore, we're in the same division as Jacksonville. He's coming.

Hey, you got to – I said, Coach Hall, I got you. That joke will be out there waiting. We get off the bus, Ocho, he out there waiting. I put the tickets in his hand. So he come to Jacksonville. He drive to Nashville, Tennessee to see us play the Titans. He drive all the way to D.C. to see us play the Washington. Why he ain't fly? Driving.C. to see us play to Washington. Why he ain't fly? Driving.

Driving. So Hall of Fame, he come. The Ring of Fame, he come. I mean, him and my Spanish teacher, Miss Kills, her and her husband. Her husband was my junior high principal. She was my media reading and Spanish teacher. Right. So they coming ocho

what my sister called that man and told him spank people keep asking me talking about why you call your brother spank that's the thing i don't think i've ever called him sterling uh everybody every everybody in the family called him spanky. Nobody called him by his government name. But when my sister told that man that my brother made the Hall of Fame, yeah, because he had told the doctor, the doctor, he told the doctor,

he said, Doc, I got one more, I got one more thing. I got one more, I got to get in the Hall of Fame, then I'm good after that. Man,

that joker, my sister sent me a picture. Let's see if I got this picture of Joe. That joker my sister sent me a picture let's see if i got this picture oh joe that joke got his hat on because the uh they already said the uh the hall of fame hats out yeah let me see yeah that's it look at it I see it I see it man that joke was so happy come on I'm ready

coach all it's in August it's February what you talking about you ready what you going but dog yes that's my family values how i grew up my grandmother used to give us offer i mean my grandmother went hungry she'd take her last to make sure libby tell the boy this all i got five dollars wrapped up in a newspaper ten dollars

wrapped up in a newspaper man i never forgot that i never forgot that and uh it definitely shaped who i am kipper normwood jr oh my question is what is the one conversation that you've had with someone uh and it's stuck with you for the rest of your life because you posted a video and i'll look at it when i need motivation oh man conversation i think for me ocho you know growing up like on a farm and you know like like when you're a kid ocho and people say stuff you don't really understand the meaning of things back then not until later on in life yes because my brother he said boy don't make me chew this food twice i'm like if you swallow you're gonna need to chew it more than twice but he's saying don't make him repeat himself right when he said never

mistake habit for hard work like he was saying just because you do something over and over don't mean you're working hard right so it's all it was it was a a combination you do something over and over, don't mean you working hard. Right. So it's, it was, it was a combination of things and values and hearing them talk. And as I got older, I can just, like I said, my grandfather died. I was eight.

Oh, Joe. And my brother was like, I was expecting, you remember when you were such and such, we was riding here. And Papa said, he said,

Shannon, how you, he called me Shane most of the time. He's like, Shane, how do you remember that? I said, Spank, you remember we was such and such, we was riding here. And Papa said, he said, Shana, how you, he called me Shan most of the time. He's like, Shan, how you remember that? I remember everything that man said. Everything. I lived, my grandmother lived until I was 43. I can tell you every time my grandmother was upset with me. Every, every time. me. Every time

from the time I was, from the time I can remember, I'm three or four years old, until I was eight, until I left the house, I can tell you everything my grandmother said. Everything. My grandfather, everything.

Because that's all I want to do is make my grandparents happy. That's it. I ain't want to do nothing else. That's a liar. Man.

Leo DeRose, shout out to my favorite show, Uncannot Show. What's a family tradition you miss and want to bring back? Oh, that's easy. Four Sundays?

It is. I think one time, I would like to get in the family together one more time, Mocho. I'm talking about like, on my grandma's side? Yeah, same. Yeah. My uncle Thurnell, who's the oldest,

passed away. BJ was the next oldest, passed away. Thurman, the next oldest, passed away. My uncle Thurnell, who was the oldest, passed away. BJ was the next oldest, passed away. Thurman, the next oldest, passed away. My aunt Gladys passed away. Oh, y'all, I had one uncle on my mom's side that never reached the age of 70. Yeah. And so, you know, all of us, I got, you know,

two first cousins that passed away. To get us together one more time. Just one time. That's it. Because I know we're not going to be able to do it. We're not going to do it again, Ocho. Yeah. But just one time. Just one more time. I would love. Just to see everybody. Because most of the time, I haven't seen them.

When my uncle, well, Clary and Thurneel died my uncle and aunt my uncle had a heart attack and died in his car they called my aunt and told her

she had a heart attack and died that was in 2004 then Thurman, no. Gladys died in 2005. Thurman died in 2007. And then Granny died 2011. 2011. BJ died in 2013.

I haven't seen my cousin since Granny passed. Damn. I mean, it's hard for me, especially that scenario we're talking about with that question, as far as getting everybody back together. You know, I told you before, when we talked about, you that question as far as getting everybody back together you know i told you before when we talked about you know holidays family getting together you think about them when we sold food where everybody's a big mama house you know grandma family coming in from that's the way it used to be when my grandma here you know every the family was tight-knit everybody come out during holidays everybody meet up at one house everybody cook

you know each each each person has a specific thing that they bring somebody got a potato salad somebody got the baked beans and just i haven't had that feeling in that setting you know with real i'm talking real family yeah it's my grandma past and so that that's something that i wish, you know, I mean, just too many people to pass away now

for it to actually happen like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, man, those were the days. Yeah, we're not, yeah, it's not a... Those were the days.

Yeah, it's not a... It's... But I knew Ocho. I'm not naive. I knew once my grandmother passed right we not getting back together

like that again no we just not um uh I'm I'm out here um

we just we just not and uh I used to think about it a lot I was like you know what you know we'll get back together we'll get together next year we not come around

and it don't even feel the same Ocho like I said I haven't been home Ocho I haven't I went last time I've been home I swung I stopped through because my son was graduating Georgia Southern, and that had to be like

2013? 2014. 2014. That was the last time I've been home. I remember going home. I went to Georgia Southern. I came home to Glenville. I said, leave it right out with me to the

cemetery. I went out there for about 30 minutes. Talked to Granny. Talked to Papa. You know, Thurman, BJ, Gladys, all buried out there

close proximity. Because my grandma bought a plot she wanted all of us to be ain't no way it's gonna happen Ocho there gonna be some people that's gonna be misplaced but she wanted all her put us all right here well they didn't buy a big enough plot of land but anyway

and I just remember I was like dang because like when my grandmother first passed Ocho 2012 I was down there 2013 I was down there 2014 I was down there

let me go out there every year you know sweep off the grave sweep off pop out grave sweep up everybody grave it ain't the same Ocho it's not

and the thing is I've accepted it's never going to be the same, Ocho. It's not. And the thing is, I've accepted it's never going to be the same. That's the hard part. Never going to be the same. You take that stuff for granted, though. When you're a kid, Ocho, and everybody's around,

and you're with your cousin, y'all 25, 30 deep, and all your uncles and aunts and everybody's around and all the cooking and aunts and everybody's around and all the cooking and everybody laughing and talking. Man, this is really cool. And you know, hey, when I have

kids, I want my... Bro, that was in days. Uncles back there drinking. Another set of young dudes playing spades. They cursing and hollering. Church music playing, the gospel playing. playing spades. They cursing the hollering. Yeah, man. Church music playing, the gospel

playing. Mighty Clouds and Joy playing as they in their... Mighty Clouds and Joy. James Cleveland. Y'all. Archie and the five Alabama blind... What is it? The five blind boys from Alabama.

It'll never be the same, bro. Joel Sajid asking for prayers from all. My mom passed this week. Sorry to hear that. Our thoughts and prayers go out to you, Joel, and your family. My condolences, my boy. My condolences. Yep.

Man. Hopefully it wasn't a lot of suffering, a lot of pain. He's got wings now. Let's rejoice in that. Hopefully it wasn't a lot of suffering, a lot of pain. He's got a wings now. Let's rejoice in that. Ronald Whitehouse. Love y'all. Give Karina a shout out.

My boss, her kid's grandma unexpectedly passed away during a routine visit to her cardiologist. Tried to send her back to LA to be buried amongst family. Karina. Bro. Sorry to hear about your

family member passing. Tough man. Death is never easy. It was expected. It doesn't matter. Everybody's expected to die. We know that. Death is never easy. I mean, well, it was expected. It don't matter. Everybody is expected to die. Yeah.

We know that. It doesn't make it easy. No, it don't. But I thought some prayers go out to all those impacted. We're so sorry to hear that here. As Farman D, Uncle Ocho, shout out. Happy birthday to my day one mods, Marshawn Hunter. Faithful Nightcap, much

love to her from all the mods. Yes, Marshawn. Happy birthday. James Taylor, been killing me why you and Marshawn haven't made your version of Patron Hennessy with a Tromba tequila and your shea shea by LaPorte. Call it a hall of fame blend.

You know what? We might do that. We might try to blend some up, try to make something happen, you know, but I know we come into a state near you and, um, You know what? We might do that. We might try to blend some up, try to make something happen. You know? But I know we're coming to a state near you in March. Got a couple of activations we got to get to, Ocho.

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