Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: 49ers fold, Nix and Payton dust-up, Christian Gonzales impresses

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocino” Johnson go off on the San Francisco 49ers and QB Brock Purdy’s crucial turnovers in 24-23 loss to Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals. Later, Unc and Ocho d...iscuss Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos win over the Las Vegas Raiders and dive into the testy moment on the sidelines between Nix and HC Sean Payton, praise New England Patriots cornerback Christian Gonzales for being “the real deal” and much more!03:18 - Cardinals beat 49ers06:00 - Broncos beat Raiders18:05 - Rams lose to Packers21:35 - Bears beat Panthers26:10 - Dolphins beat Patriots28:48 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. The Cardinals beat the 49ers 24-23. Brock Purdy was pressured by Jalen Thompson, forces a bad throw that got intercepted by Kazeera White. The 49ers scored zero points in the second half today,
Starting point is 00:02:48 making it the first time in Brock Purdy's career as a starting quarterback that the team was shut out in the second half of the game. This team, Ochoa doesn't look anything like the juggernaut in 2023. They're already 0-2 in the NFC West, 0-3 in the NFC. Without Christian McCaffrey, it was
Starting point is 00:03:03 reasonable to expect the 49ers offense would take a step back, but the 49ers made six trips into the red zone. They only managed one touchdown. The Niners led the league in red zone efficiency last year. Mason, look, they ran the ball 26 times for a buck
Starting point is 00:03:19 53. So they're getting almost six yards to carry, Ocho. But Brandon Ayoub had his best day. A for a buck 53. So they're getting five, almost six, they're getting six yards to carry Ocho. But Brandon Ayoub had his best day. A for a buck 47. George Kettle A for 64.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Debo one for 11. But they looked like they were going to put the game away. Jordan Mason got it punched out. Give Kyler credit. They drove the ball
Starting point is 00:03:43 down the field and boom. That's what you got. Got it punched out. Give Kyler credit. They drove the ball down the field. And boom. That's what you got. Arizona rushed the ball 26 times for $1.69. They only had two rushers, James Conner and Kyler Murray. James Conner was 19 of 86. Kyler was 7 for 83. You got to put that.
Starting point is 00:04:02 When you got a team down, they were dominating the game. You got to put them away. You got to put them away brock purdy two turnovers at a key every time every time every single time but when you get a team like you let them hang around oh joe you know you let a team hang around you let them hang around eventually they find a way to beat you and then you look you wake hang around, you let them hang around, eventually they find a way to beat you. And then you wake up like, man, what happened? How did we lose that game? Well, we was in for the round and that's what happened.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But when Kyler broke the pocket on that first touchdown run, he got to the right side of the field. He put his hand in there. He's like, I'm gone. I'm out of here. Hey, Kyler Murray, when he running, he fast as hell. But I don't know why it reminds me of that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, McKee is trying to get away from you or something when he was young. Yeah. The Broncos. Bronco country, baby. The who? Don't do that, O baby no don't do that don't show don't do that first of all if your team don't have at least three wins i don't want you to say foot or ball okay i'm just saying if your team do not have at least three wins i don't want you to say foot or ball the broncos beat the raiders 34-18 behind continuing improvement of their signal caller. First win over the Raiders in almost a decade.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Guess what? They had lost the previous. They hadn't beaten them since 2019. Despite the slow start, Bo Nix outing as a pro 19-27, 2-0-6, two touchdowns. His first game with 100-plus rating and first with multiple touchdowns. Bo Nix also added a TD on the ground. He's just the second Broncos rookie with two pass TDs and a rush TD in the game.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Cameras caught. Bo Nix and Sean Payton going at it on the sideline. Here's what Payton said about the incident after the game. It's part of the deal. Listen, last year, all of a sudden, I was, it's just, there's still a little bit of Ferris Bueller in this player that we got to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:06:13 All right. Talking about Bo and I love him to death. Bueller. And so sometimes it's my love language. All right. Can you say what it was about? No, no, no. Absolutely not. language. Can you say what it was about? No. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Sean Payton is hard on his quarterbacks. I don't know why y'all thought Sean Payton was going to change. Sean Payton is hard on his quarterbacks. He coached Drew Brees hard. But hold on. We talked about this before. We got to remember these grown-ass men, man. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You got to watch how you talk to me. Bo Nix, Bo Nix, without really saying it, without really saying it. But hold on, hold on, Playboy. There's a certain way you can address me and let me know that there's something that you don't like. I agree. You know? And shit, Bo had to snap back and let him know, like, I know I'm a rookie, but
Starting point is 00:07:07 time out. Yeah. Especially in that kind of setting, Ocho. That's my cheese mo. There's a lot of testosterone on that sideline. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I get it. I get it. You can cut me. You can trade me, but I tell your ass up before you do
Starting point is 00:07:24 any of those two. You can cut me. You can trade me. But I tell you ass up before you do any of those two. Don't do that. But you know what? You know what? I think I guarantee Sean Payton was at the dinner table. He probably with a family with the wife. It was like, you know what, baby? That goddamn bone next. He got some spunk. Yeah, I like. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I like him. I like that. Even with that exchange. Some people, obviously people watching them, fans, you know, oh, you can't be talking to your quarterback, can't be talking to him. That's a good thing. What you saw, that's a good thing. And plus, Bo been around.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Bo Black, how he got to be like 24, ain't he? Because hell, his first game starting was against the guy at the the char at the la chargers justin herbert his first game starting as a as a freshman at auburn he started against justin herbert well how long wait so he he graduated late or he's a fifth year senior so he transferred to oregon he was at auburn for like two, three, and then he transferred. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But he's playing well. Guys are playing well around him. Defense is playing much better. Hey, that goddamn pass on Tane, boy. Junior? Junior? Man. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:08:42 PS2, now he legit. He's smooth, effortlessless but his dad was a corner so yeah i mean i played against his dad in 05 yeah i believe i think we i think i played against him in in 01 i think he was there because i don't think he was there sam mad Madison like in the 90s it was Sam Madison and T-Buck no hold on no no it was both of them because I played against Pat and
Starting point is 00:09:11 no matter which side of the field I went to it was Pat it was Pat and goddamn Sam boy you talking about a day a day of talking shit oh that was a good day what year did Pat get to and I caught Pat at the Chiefs too oh did you shit? Oh, that was a good day. What year did Pat get to? And I caught Pat at the
Starting point is 00:09:27 Chiefs too. Oh, did you? Yeah, I caught Pat at the Chiefs too. Yeah, I think in the playoff game, I think we played I think it was Sam. I don't know. He might have been. I don't know. He might have been. Pat Senior might have been there.
Starting point is 00:09:44 But I know it was T-Buck and Sam Madison. T-Buck played at the Dolphins? Yeah. Yeah. What was that, the Dolphins? 98. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah. They're holding, jumping rocks ass. Yeah. Boy, they hold, ooh, back then, they let you hold more
Starting point is 00:10:09 than what they will now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, back then, man.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Hey, oh, hey, they didn't hold a bit. Yeah. Remember, remember that game? I think they didn't change the rule
Starting point is 00:10:18 when Ty lost something with Ty Long and Marvin Harrison. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:22 yeah. Remember the rules after that game? They changed the rules because before, Ocho, if the quarterback, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember the rules after that? We changed the rules because before Ocho, if the quarterback wasn't looking your way, they let the DB hold an ish out of you.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Well, he wasn't looking your way. You know why? Because he saw the quarterback saw him holding me. That's why he didn't look my way. If you threw the flag, he threw it. You know, I got a question.
Starting point is 00:10:41 How do you think the day's receivers, let's say the top receivers, how do you think they would do in our era of football? They would, the really good ones would adapt because right. See what they did.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They'd like the incidental contact. It's the five yard rule. See, the rule was always in place. Right. They just put an emphasis on calling it. See a lot of the rules that the NFL is, is,
Starting point is 00:11:01 is that's, that's the, uh, they put it, what they call it emphasis on it. The rule's been in place but Ty riding Marvin all the way down the field and they weren't calling
Starting point is 00:11:12 it. They say, you know what? Now we're going to call it now. So the five-yard incidental contact rule. Right. So because before that rule was instituted for Mel Blunt. Mel was six foot four by 205. Mel was,uted for Mel Blunt. Mel was 6'4", about 205, physical. Mel was, hell, Mel was, because they played shell coverage,
Starting point is 00:11:29 Mel was riding guys all the way down the field and throwing them out of bounds. They're like, bro, you can't do that. So that's why they changed. That's why they put that rule in for him because he was so physical. Do you know what it takes for a cornerback to be a defensive player of the year? Mm-hmm. I mean, think about it. They had Joe Green winning, and then Jack Lambert winning, and then Mel Blount
Starting point is 00:11:52 would win it, and then Joe Green would win it again. How do you have, like, in a five-year, six-year span, you got four defensive players of the year? That's crazy. Yes! Damn, dude, the whole defense went to the hall of fame a safety a corner two linebackers d line your head coach quarterback both wide receivers running back
Starting point is 00:12:12 center the head coach the owner bro they were they were loaded but i look that's what sean it look sean gonna be like that. And plus, when you're young, you're a rookie, Ocho. You don't know. I mean, because he used to get taught like that. Because that's how coaches coach in college. That's how coaches coach in college. They talk like that.
Starting point is 00:12:38 They cursing and yelling and screaming. And so I don't think that's out of the norm for him to have Sean Payton in his ear like that. But I, you know, my high school coach didn't really curse. Coach Hall was my high school coach, but he coached my mom
Starting point is 00:12:54 and all my uncles. He didn't really curse. Coach Davis didn't curse at me like that. Now, Dan, I said, man, I sure hope it gives me some tenure. That's the one, because that's the one thing, Ocho, I didn't want to mess up. Because Dan was cursed.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He's a mofo and all that other stuff. Right, right, right. Man, I'll never forget Ocho. The only time that I can honestly say I think Dan got upset at me, and I didn't even do anything. Ocho, we was in the huddle. And you know how, like, because back then, we lined up in the huddle different. Like, I was, like, in the huddle and you know how like we line up in the huddle different like I was like in the back
Starting point is 00:13:27 I wasn't like in the Broncos offense I was right across from John so John would be like this and I'm looking in eye to eye but in the Broncos huddle I was kind of in the back and so they called a play and so as I'm going up like this here I look and I guess
Starting point is 00:13:44 he thought I was looking in the stands, the training camp. And he's like, Shadow, there ain't nobody in them effing stands that's going to help you make this team. And I'm like, Coach, I don't want to hear it. Okay, boy. This old man don't know how bad I want to tear his ass on right now but let me go ahead
Starting point is 00:14:10 swallow my pride but I went to him after practice and I said coach I wasn't looking at him in no stands I wasn't I said coach it you just happened like when I just raised my head and I just looked I wasn't looking in the stands. Looking in the stands for what?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Right. He's like, well, he apologized. He apologized and said, I'm sorry. Maybe I overreacted, but I just see so much in you. Right. Because he was always, you know, and when he passed away, his wife called and asked, would I speak at his funeral? I was the only player.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Dan coached all those years. I was the only player that spoke. Just going to show you what he actually thought of me and what he had relayed to his family, what he thought of me. Right. And I was like, I was like, ma'am, are you sure? She's like, Shannon, he thought the world of you. I was like, man, I couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's what I want to tell Ojo. That's the way he used to curse me out. God dang it, Shannon. He didn't say dang it. Trust me, he didn't say dang it. You're cursing, huh? What? Man, anybody know the Bronco that's... Back
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Starting point is 00:17:54 or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, the Packers go on the road, beat the Rams 24-19. How many interceptions will Xavier McKinney? I remember saying Xavier McKinney has skill sets that was, I mean, the way he can anticipate and get a jump on the ball, it reminds you a lot of Ed Reed. Because, A, anticipatory skills was second to none. McKinney has those same kinds of skill to be able to jump,
Starting point is 00:18:30 like anticipate, and he got great hands. Because at the end of the day, we see a lot of guys, DBs, knock the ball down. Bro, catch it. Catch the ball, and he ain't missing. At this pace, he would break the NFL single-season record of 14. The record is held by Dick Night Train Lane in his rookie season, had 14
Starting point is 00:18:50 with the Detroit Lions. Nobody has ever come close to that record since. There have been a lot of 10s. I think Stephon Diggs had 11 one year, didn't he? I know Champ Bailey had 10 one year. Everson Walls had 10 his rookie year, if I'm not mistaken, in 1981. Damn.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah. Today made him just the third player since 1940 to record an interception in each of his team's first five games with a new team. On the series before, McKinney also recovered a fumble. The Packers have 14 takeaways, which is the most by any team through five games, since the Bills had 15 in 2021.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Diggs did? Yeah, Diggs had 11, don't you? Yeah. But, uh, the Packers going to roll, uh, the Packers Jordan Love, 15-26. Oh, Joe. Love's going to roll the Packers. Jordan Love 15 to 26. Oh, Joe. Love's going to have to stop throwing off that back
Starting point is 00:19:50 foot. He had a guy wide open for a touchdown and underthrow him because he threw it off his back foot. Yeah. You know where the mechanics and mannerisms come from, huh? Aaron? Yeah. Yes, Aaron. Same thing. Same mechanics, same arm angles. Yep. Same everything. yeah same thing same mechanic same
Starting point is 00:20:05 arm angles same everything if you go back to the basics that's touchdown earlier yes yes that's six he got it by three steps
Starting point is 00:20:21 he got it by three steps I hate that I want to get a much needed victory there are three Ocho, he got it by three steps. He got it by three steps. I hate that. But they go on the road and get a much-needed victory. They're 3-2 now, and the Rams fall to 1-4. Packers run the ball for 30 attempts for 126. Jordan Love has 15 of 26 to 24. Matthew Stafford was 29 of 45, 261 touchdown, 1 interception.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And they ran the ball 28 rushes, 134. Kyron Williams, 22 for a buck or two. Hell, I thought the Rams was going to do it. I thought they were going to come back and pull it off. Oh, I didn't believe in the Rams. I mean, I didn't. Even though they had a chance, even though they had an opportunity. Right. Listen, when you have no Cooper Cup, when you have no goddamn Cooper.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Cooper the Cooler. They got my dog, Tutu. Tutu playing well. Whittington playing well. Yeah, Tutu playing real well. But it's not enough firepower. It's not enough. It's not enough firepower.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It's not enough. Not to compete at the level that you want to. Not to compete at the level that you want to. Not to compete at the level that you're used to. It's different. Yep. Packers win 24-19. The Bears beat the Panthers. Hey.
Starting point is 00:21:41 You saw Kenny Williams today, huh? Hold on. Yeah. Dave Canales threw Bryce Young back in the game with 415 remaining and bryce took his first snap in the game since being benched after o and two oh so you mean to tell me the quarterback situation that don't change anything huh on the first play he brought time and scramble and found miles sanders open for a 27 yard uh gang canalis brought did a fantastic job and said Andy Dalton will remain the starter
Starting point is 00:22:07 for next week against the Falcons. After the game, Bryce Young asked if the current situation lit a fire for the hero. Here's what he had to say about that. Come on. Talk to me. I'm not someone who's really externally motivated. You know, I draw my
Starting point is 00:22:25 motivation from inside. So good, bad, or indifferent, I don't want anything to dictate if I'm motivated, if I care, if I am driven. No matter how things are going, that's always going to stay the same. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 What'd you think, Ocho? Politically correct. He's saying all the right things, but maybe that is just him, though. You can tell from his manner. The way he carries himself, that's just him, huh? That's his personality.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I can see. Cool dude. Real soft-spoken. Real soft-spoken. It just... I think he's going to get the opportunity again. Yeah. I just hope his confidence is at whenever that opportunity presents
Starting point is 00:23:18 itself, that he's ready mentally. And I think it probably might be with the Panthers or if it's elsewhere. I hope he's ready. Well, until they get some weapons, they're like, don't put me back in there because
Starting point is 00:23:33 I ain't gonna look no better because Andy Dalton, look how Andy Dalton numbers with those weapons. And everybody, oh, Andy Dalton! Woo! Look at Andy Dalton! We got a large enough sample size to know what Andy Dalton is. Large enough. Plenty large.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't care who the quarterback is. Ain't nobody. Look, you better be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady to make these receivers look good. Yeah. I mean, listen. They got some nice. I mean, they got some boys over there. Once they get Adam Thielen back, they got Xavier Leggett. They got some nice... They got some boys over there. Once they get Adam Thielen back,
Starting point is 00:24:07 they got Xavier Leggett. They got Mingo. They got some boys. They got Deontay Johnson. They got some nice little pieces. They just got to put that shit together. They got to put it together.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And then when you have question marks at a quarterback position that means the receiver position and the tight ends have to be that much better than the quarterback and that's why he doesn't stand a chance because they're not that much better
Starting point is 00:24:39 he ain't throwing to Kelsey and Laporta and Kittle and guys like that he's not throwing to Justin Jefferson and Chase and guys like that. Even if you want to go, even if you take those top 10 guys out and go to the next 10. What guy, if I give you, how many receivers are you going to go to before you take Deontay Johnson? Leggett, I get it. He's a rookie. But how many receivers and tight ends are you going to go through before you pick one off the Carolina roster?
Starting point is 00:25:06 A bunch. That's rude. It's the truth, though. Rookies. Look at what CJ was throwing to. He had Nico, Tank Dale, Noah Brown as well. He had Dalton Schultz. He had nice feet.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Which one of those guys are better than any of the guys that I named? On the Panthers? Yeah. Which one of those guys is better than Nico Collins, better than Tank Dale, better than Tank Dale, better than Dalton Schultz, better than hell, Noah Brown.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah. And they stealing all the joy from Bryce Young because they ain't doing it. I'm glad you brought that up. The Dolphins grind out an ugly win over the Patriots. Jalen Paul with an insane touchdown grab to take the lead, but it was overturned. The play was overturned.
Starting point is 00:26:20 This was the first time the Dolphins have won a game on the road against the Patriots, despite allowing 150 plus yards rushing in the game. Hey, yeah, I'm glad Tyler Huntley got this win, boy. I'm glad I'm glad we had we had Odell came back. Odell came back today. Tyreek, I know Tyreek might be a little frustrated. You know, the
Starting point is 00:26:47 numbers are not showing what they should be for the type of receiver he is. Same thing with Waddle. I mean, I don't, I don't, I wonder how much that playbook has shrunk. It's got to, Ocho. It's got to.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. I know. I'm just, I just, it's got to yeah i know i know i know i know i know i'm just i just it's weird to see the dolphin struggling like this and then seeing him last year man somebody every week it was something different it was an aerial assault every week yeah but you had you had every week damn i mean you look they pulled it off though yeah they did they did hey that goddamn
Starting point is 00:27:29 Christian is it Christian Gonzalez yeah hey boy uh uh no I tried to tell you that's the one hey
Starting point is 00:27:36 boy he the real deal boy you saw hey he the real deal you saw what he did week one right and locked up wouldn't let him saw what he did week one, right? Had him locked up, wouldn't let him out.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Who did he play week one? Oh, tell him play us now. Nah, that didn't have to work in the NFL. You don't play somebody this night, you're the midget twice. Tell him play us now. And watch what happened to him. Listen, he nice.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Just watching him throughout the game, watching him on Tyreek, watching him on some other players, he's nice with it. Always in position. I told you. I watched him a little bit last year. I didn't know a whole lot about it, but watch. Oh, no, no, no. He can play.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He can play. He's nice. He's technically sound. He's plenty physical. Yeah, yeah. He can nice. He's technically sound. He's plenty physical. He's not... He's not afraid to challenge. A lot of guys are afraid to challenge. He'd be up there and put hands on him.
Starting point is 00:28:36 He's one of those five percenters. Five percenters that play to make a play. Not like that 95% that play not to get beat. There's a difference. You're right. You're absolutely right. It's time for Q and A.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Let me use the restroom real quick. Go ahead. Is there anything that we missed tonight that you'd like for us to hit? We might not hit it tonight because I got to go to bed, but we'll definitely hit it
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Starting point is 00:29:53 And Ocho will be saying, man, we're going to the playoffs. The Cook, dude, you're delusional. Hey, no, you're delusional. You're delusional. And we're going to the playoffs. What you talking about? You saw what we did today. You see how that offense looks today. Listen, don't do that. Don't do that. Who was that? What was his name? What was the name? What was the name?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Tim Lee. OK, Tim Lee. You'll see. You'll see. Now we play the Giants next. We're going to beat the Giants. Then we play the Browns. We're going to beat the Browns. I'm not sure what the schedule is after that, but we're going to be right. And we make the playoffs. I'm going to make sure, Tim Lee, I'm going to remember you. I'm going to remember you and when the Bengals make the playoffs and get up out of this hole and rise from the ashes like the goddamn
Starting point is 00:30:35 Undertaker and make the playoffs, I'm going to find you. You mean like a phoenix? I'm going to find you. You mean like a phoenix? What's a phoenix? That's what to find you. You mean like a phoenix? What's a phoenix? That's what rise from the ashes. Well, I was trying to insinuate how the Undertaker comes about the grave. Or he like.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Oh, he's up in the middle of the ring when he was like. And he stood up. Yeah, and he sits up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do. I mean, you keep. You know what I heard? I heard you say about the offense.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I hear you mentioned that by that defense. Oh, listen. All right. All I heard you say about the offense. I hear you mentioned that by that defense. Oh, listen, our team, our identity is the offense. Now, Lou, Lou is going to do what he needs to do to make sure we play good enough. Good enough football. Huh? When? I mean, listen, that's why we practice. I mean, you do realize
Starting point is 00:31:27 y'all gave up 41 to the Ravens. You gave up 33, 36 the week before to the Commanders. We talk about Lamar Jackson and Jaden Daniels. Two of the most efficient quarterbacks in the NFL right now.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Y'all got beat by Jacoby Brissett, too. Oh, that was week one. You know week one don't count. It's a toss-up. Anybody can win week one. Who beat them in the third week? Okay, the city. Oh, yeah. Again, we should have won. Matter of fact, our record
Starting point is 00:32:01 does not state how good our team is. You look at us play today and you fact, our record does not state how good our team is. You look at us play today and you look at our record, that's not who we are. It's not. It's just not. Tim Lee, I'm going to find you.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Matter of fact, I'm going to look for you on Twitter right now so I can talk shit. Don't come on our show and talk about I'm going to lose. Bengals versus the Ravens. Ravens scored a touchdown to score 38-35 Bengals. Four minutes on the clock. Bengals get the ball back and we
Starting point is 00:32:34 are passing. Why? Ocho, why did they pass the ball, Ocho? Wait, we are passing? We didn't pass. He's talking about overtime? No, in regulation. He threw a pick. Because he said, why didn't you run the ball instead of throwing? Then you would take some time off the clock,
Starting point is 00:32:53 and then you wouldn't throw the interception. Marlon Humphrey made an unbelievable play. Whoa, wait, timeout. I'm so glad. Oh, hell no. I'm so glad you just mentioned that. Two by two. Two by two. Two by two.
Starting point is 00:33:06 When Chase is on the outside and the Titan is right there watching film, two things are coming. Well, the main thing is coming based on down and distance and the situation. The goddamn slant, Unc.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah, outside. The slant is coming. Humphrey knows that. He pressing. If I'm Joe in that case, in that scenario, you know what I'm doing? You gonna run slow? What?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Two by two a few years ago in 2021. The same concept, same route. This time Marlon Humphrey was off. He ran a slant. That's another game that the game with Chase had maybe 200-some yards. We took the slant route to the house.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Yeah. This time, oh, boom. Marlon Humphrey, boom. My antenna's up. Tightened on this side. It might have been Yoshi. Either way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He knew the alignment. You know what? I'm going to play man. I'm going to go up there and press. The slant is coming. Joe should have looked at him, gave him something. I'm not sure if Joe can go off script. Of course he can.
Starting point is 00:34:14 If a play call comes in, I don't know if Joe has the ability to say, you know what? Are we playing press? Okay, bet. Give him that eye. Give him that pump. Something that's something. You know, me and carson had that if a dude come over there and press because they were only there were only so many times i got man to man just bump and run out of the blue with the safety in the middle of the field anytime we got that
Starting point is 00:34:37 oh right here carson with that uh just to getting the notice the safety's in the middle of here and buddy bumping and ain't no help. Come on now. Don't do that. Now, I think stuff like that, I don't know if Joe and Chase had the freedom
Starting point is 00:34:53 to do that and improvise offensively. But, listen, you got to know the person on the other side of the ball is getting paid as well.
Starting point is 00:35:03 He knows. If you know he... You got to play a thinker's man's game in that scenario. But the pick, you're right. Give Hump credit. He read it. It's not enough to read it, Ocho. He came down with the pick
Starting point is 00:35:17 because it could have easily been incomplete. A lot of DBs ain't making that play. Right. He made that play. That's what's so impressive about it. Like that play. Right. He made that play. That's what's so impressive about it. Like Malcolm Butler. How many times we see a guy get a great jump on the ball and the next thing we know we see him staring at their hands because the ball don't hit the turn.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Hey, guy makes a mistake, make him pay the ultimate price. Hey, that's film too. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, i've seen this before i've seen this before and then you know i'm i'm sure chase based on alignment based on formation based on down the distance yeah oh yeah i know what's coming because if you think about ocho the play that he scored on
Starting point is 00:36:00 was a three by one yeah all they did was flip all. All they did was flip it and take one of the guys and put him on the other side. They were still trying to get a rub where he comes up underneath. But Hunt was there and beat him to the punch. Punch, yeah. He fought hard and beat him. Joe throwing it on anticipation.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Back foot hit. I'm going to let it go because I don't want to clutch it. I don't want to hold it. And Hunt made a hell of a play. Nelly Belly said Burrow in two years, elite quarterback or highest paid Calvin Klein model. Damn. Hey, who is that talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Who? Nelly Belly. Hey, Nelly Belly, don't do that. Don't do that. Because statistically, that quarterback, that Calvin Klein model you talk about with the blonde hair that looked like he was a part of NSYNC back in the day, he's statistically at the top of the league. Almost in the category.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Nah, what he did is he changed his hair because he didn't want to be Big Macaulay Culkin. He changed the hair color. Man, Joe, hey, Joe be on it, Joe. Now, Joe be dressing now. Brandon Martinez, don't cry, Ocho. Switch to the Cowboys. Oh, no. Who? There it is. I know you're a
Starting point is 00:37:18 Cowboy fan. Listen, I'm a fan of the Cowboy players. The players. Doc, Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Bigger Tastes Sweeter players. The players. Doc, Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Bigger Tastes Sweeter in Blue and Silver. Yeah, we steal them boys and make it noise. Doc, Here we go. Don't do that. Doc,
Starting point is 00:37:34 you know how it's going in. But I know you can't help it. It's like the moth to the flame. It can't help it. It knows what's going to happen. But the attraction is just so great. It can't help it. It knows what's going to happen, but the attraction is just so great. I get it, Doc.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You've probably been a Cowboy fan ever since you were a little bitty girl. Right, right, right. And you've been disappointed just that much. That's funny. MJ Bissette 93 said, nobody got time to rebuild Justin Fields as a starter
Starting point is 00:38:06 especially if you're trying to make the playoffs he's going to have to get better Ocho you talking about Justin? yeah listen they're 3-2 now right I think they'll be fine
Starting point is 00:38:23 but I think they have to open up the playbook for them a little bit more you got you got it you you have no choice you got to open up because now what's happening is now you got film on you now they got film on you now so boom what's the first thing you got to do based on what you see on film we got to add a little bit more we got to add some sprinkles then you got to add the cherry on top but you run your base stuff that he does well you run that you always stick to that but you got you got to add a little bit more at some point to show teams things that they haven't seen yet that's not on film oh joe the problem is is that when they gave him liberty, he turnover prone. He did a great job to get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:39:06 He had a turnover, Ocho, remember? And somehow he came up, and I don't know what the hell Mike McCarthy was doing challenging it. You see Justin Fields get out of the pile. He got the ball. Oh, yeah. And you challenge it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 For what? I think he just wanted like, you know what, I want to see myself on the jumbotron. Let me make this challenge because I know they're going to show me. See, that's me making another bonehead challenge. Ocho, the thing is, I agree, but Fields is not careful with the football.
Starting point is 00:39:39 As a matter of fact, he's careless. Well, listen, wait a minute now. Now the first three games, he hadn't turned the ball over at all. Oh, Joe. First three games, he hadn't turned it over. But see, as long as you can play on your terms, which means I got a lead. Right. But when they put him in a situation where, just like last week against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Put him in a situation where now you got to throw and you can't run. But if you try, I don't know, Ocho. I mean, I root for the kid, but it's just hard because the thing is, like, when you get a quarterback, Ocho, and you're like, man, it's going to take a while. Bro, I might not even be here. I ain't got that while. Bro, I'm 31. They probably looking to get me up out of here.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I'm trying to win right now. Y'all talking about, oh, we building something. Bro, I might not ever see it. JTT, do you think Jaden Daniels is on place for the MVP yeah he's absolutely in the running
Starting point is 00:40:47 no joke there's only been one rookie that's won MVP that was Jim Brown Jim Brown won rookie of the year
Starting point is 00:40:55 and he also won MVP in the same season it doesn't happen often it doesn't I think Fred Lynn did it in baseball I don't I can't think of anybody
Starting point is 00:41:06 off the top of my head that's done it in basketball wilt would have been the probably the best guess but i don't think we'll did it so i don't think it's ever been done in basketball uh football i don't know if it's ever been done in hockey. I don't really follow hockey that closely. So, but... I mean, listen, it's still early. We're only in October. But if he can keep up this kind of pace and consistency, there are going to be some ups and downs. There are going to be some ups and downs for him.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And they're going to have other quarterbacks that are going to have a resurgence. You know, the other quarterbacks are going to have a resurgence probably sometime in November know November and December so you never know could he consistently be the way and play the way
Starting point is 00:41:50 he's playing now all the way through he definitely got a chance to win MVP and Rookie of the Year yeah I'm Michael Kassin founder and CEO
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Starting point is 00:44:29 did and i think fred lynn did it in baseball but you got to be sensational and but he's having an unbelievable season oh joe yeah and they're winning it's one thing to put up stats it's another thing to put up stats in a winning effort. Yeah. That's what makes them so impressive. Yvette Ramos, listen to the nightcap on our honeymoon. Love you, Kanocho and Keith. Hey, thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Hey, what y'all about to do when y'all get off? Stop listening to us. What y'all going to do? Yvette, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. what y'all about to do when y'all get off? Stop listening to us. What y'all going to do? You bet. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that key. Thank you, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Uh, appreciate y'all support. That means a lot to us. Uh, we know it's the wee hours of the morning and we greatly, greatly appreciate everybody that stayed up to watch. Lady Ray said, Oh,
Starting point is 00:45:20 Lady Ray, you still up? Uh, how about my Vikings being five and old beating the jets? Not saying what? Oh, Joe, you chose the wrong. You chose my Vikings being 5-0, beating the Jets? Not saying much. Oh, Joe, you chose wrong again. So, Karma, got your bingles. Skol, Vikings.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I chose wrong? Yeah. You picked the Jets to beat the Vikings. I did? Yeah, you did. And that's what happened last week. Oh, no. Oh, I just said Aaron Rodgers plays
Starting point is 00:45:45 well against the Jets. Aaron Rodgers plays well against the Vikings. Oh, I mean, yeah. Aaron Rodgers plays well against the Vikings. So I was thinking we're going to see the Aaron Rodgers of all, but he played just opposite. He played just opposite. It was probably because of the flight, though.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Oh, that's what it was? Yeah, the flight. The flight. Little jet lag. Little jet lag. Yo, folks, just wanted to say I got my power back today. Still recovering from the storm here in Georgia. Hope everyone is okay. Yeah, my sister just got the power back Friday. She didn't want to, you know, she didn't want to, like,
Starting point is 00:46:21 I said, well, why don't you go to Atlanta? Well, you know, Shannon, I ain't want to leave the said well why don't you go to Atlanta well you know Shannon I ain't I ain't want to leave the old piece of house then you want to leave the piece of house yeah she got no power she got no cell service and she stayed
Starting point is 00:46:39 surviving see see how my family see my sister I bet she had some candles, though. What the hell is she going to do? Is she Abe Lincoln? What the hell are candles going to do? What the hell? That was my grandma.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Ocho, you got no power. You got no cell service. But you're right. She probably was in that Bible. Ain't no question about it. She was in the Bible.'t no question about it she was in the bible yes absolutely absolutely uh cyril p said which wide receiver would you build your team around megatron jerry randy or to oh shoot well you can't go wrong either way and you get you you take those four you just named right right? You put them in your prime. And I'm going to just go based off preference.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I mean, you can do that. Damn. Boy, that's a hard one too, Uncle. Who are you picking? Jerry. Yeah? Because the thing with Jerry is that Jerry played 20 seasons. Just think about this, Ocho. Jerry played 20 season. Just think about this.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Oh, Joe Jerry played 20 seasons. Uh, he missed 50. I think he missed like 15 games. Cause he tore his ACL the first game of the season. I think that was 96. Was that 96?
Starting point is 00:47:56 No, that was 97, 97. Jerry tore his ACL. He tore it during the season. He came back and played against us and called a couple of touchdowns. Mm. 97.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So think about how many yards he would have had. So you're going to add another, another thousand to the 22,500 yards he got receiving. Right. And another, another 90 catches to the 1500,500 catches that he got and another 10 touchdowns so ain't nobody
Starting point is 00:48:30 ain't no receiver getting that touchdown record Ocho he got 198 receiving touchdowns who's breaking that record Ocho ain't nobody the man got 208 total touchdowns. Let that sink in.
Starting point is 00:48:48 200. He had 1,000 yards receiving at 40. 40. 4-0. All right, listen. Man, people. Democracy. Unheard of.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Sajay 17. Sajay 17. Ichiro. Ichiro did. 2001. He beat Jason Giambi, didn't he? Ichiro did. Ichiro from the Mariners? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Ichiro. I remember him. Because he broke. Did he broke? up from the Mariners. Yeah. I remember him. Because he broke did he broke a record he broke for singles? Did he break George Sissel's record? Most singles?
Starting point is 00:49:38 What might have been most hits of the season? Sajay17 said what's up I'm a diehard Jaguars fan what do you think of Trevor and Brian Thomas'
Starting point is 00:49:49 performance Brian Thomas is playing unbelievable I think he has like 45 I think he has like 45 yards
Starting point is 00:49:55 receiving in every game this season he's the only rookie to put up those type of numbers yeah Brian Thomas is real real real
Starting point is 00:50:03 real real real real good what's the most hits in the season uh yeah Trevor Trevor played well today he needed to because Joe Flacco wasn't bulljiving Joe hey the one thing about Joe he can still slay now Ocho you better pressure it Joe go from team to team and you'd think he was a starting quarterback he broke George Sisler's record in 257 but Sisler had the record right
Starting point is 00:50:32 257 okay I hate it I don't like doing this it's not right what Ash forgive me the evil eye what happened cause I got something right. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
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Starting point is 00:53:58 for us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. It's because of you guys that you make me realize that, you know what, there's a lot of chatter out there we got a lot of noise on one side of you know he ain't this and he that but when i see you guys show up in the chat at three o'clock in the morning and you're 25 30 40 000 strong it lets me know i got way more love and adoration than i do hate and that's what keeps us going so we appreciate that ocho and i really really appreciate
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