Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Aaron Rodgers annoyed, Brady fires back, Russell Wilson’s shakey future

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders discuss New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers butting heads with HC Robert Saleh, Tom Brady firing back at Bucs QB Baker Mayfield,... Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson’s future as a starter in the NFL could be in jeopardy and much more!03:18 - Vikings go 4-0 with win over Packers06:47 - Aaron Rodgers and Robert Saleh drama11:52 - Kliff Kingsbury great play caller and QB coach14:30 - Younghoe Koo’s game winning FG18:43 - Bengals get first win of the season21:55 - Russell Wilson’s future as a starter34:00 - Bears beat Rams36:04 - Raiders beat Browns40:42 - CJ Stroud lifts Texans46:00 - Q and Ayeee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 The Green Bay Packers turned the ball, turnovers, halted the comeback attempt. The Vikings dominated early but had to hang on. Minnesota scored touchdowns on four of its first five possessions. Sam Donald threw three touchdowns, but the Vikings seemed to let their foot off the gas. We see a lot of that. Had a 28-22 lead with more than 10 minutes left. Love threw for 202 yards and three touchdowns in the final 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Set career high in passing yards, 389. Touchdown passer with four. Completion's 32, but he wore a Favre jersey to the game. And just like Favre, three turnovers. Hey. You need to stop, dog. You need to stop. When Favre threw three turnovers, he had about six touchdowns, dog.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Brett didn't care. Brett thought you were picky. Keep on going. And smile at you. You know, I played with him as a rookie in Atlanta. Brett was one of a kind. Still is. Loving life. He didn't care. That's what Bucky was jumping at.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, but he didn't what you're saying. Bucky was jumping back there. It ain't popping like that no more. No, Magic City was jumping back there. But anyway, that's Bucky. Magic City's still popping. Magic City's still popping. No, I ain't been to the strip joint in 30 years.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I was 17 for me, but I went. I ain't been to the strip joint in 30 years I was 17 for me but I went I ain't been to the strip joint in 30 years how long have you been Chad? yesterday I ain't I can't tell you the last time
Starting point is 00:03:53 I've been to the strip club cause I I ain't trying to spend no money when you come in there you know what I don't like I don't mean to get off track and y'all chat y'all stay with me now
Starting point is 00:04:01 when you go to the strip club and you purposely you stand in the back because you don't want to spend no money, but they still come stand next to you and try to ask for a tip when they come off stage. If I wanted to tip you, I'd walk up here. But it make me feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So I ain't been back. I go get the wings. You no mad. You're going to take care of you no mad. No, you need to stop, though. You ain't going anywhere with the wings. You went there for the thighs. You might have went for the thighs, but you want the wings.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, you like a whole lot of stuff. What I feel. I thought you said you were done. You were done. My bad. You walked into that one. You walked into that one. Man, see,
Starting point is 00:04:42 this is why we can't have nice stuff y'all see what i go through see what i go through jack this is why i can't call it this is why i can't call it because this is what he want to do he want to join all the time but you know guess what it's to be. But you know, guess what? It's going to be two cats you know going to be there. Hey, Riocho. I'm going to be here every time. You're going to be there.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Hey. No matter what, we're going to be there. Good or bad, I'm going to be here. We're going to tell you the truth. You know that. Bye, dad. Boy, if the shoe
Starting point is 00:05:16 was on the other foot. Oh, oh. I was just. Dog, I was just saying, man, what you want? You want me to come over and clean up for a week or something?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Because you're going to be relentless. You will up for a week or something cause you gonna be relentless you will be relentless dog and you know you already know the chat know too the chat know I'm glad it wasn't me cause I couldn't afford to do nothing like that I couldn't afford to do it either me either
Starting point is 00:05:40 you're in a position of power you're in a position of power Prime you're in a position of power. You're in a position of power. Prime, you're in a position of power. That's a lie. Listen, I ain't got no more room for error, boy. I ain't got no room for error. It's not a... Things that used to be an error is not an error anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's just judgment. That's all it is. It's judgment. It used to be an error. Now it's judgment. Right. Yeah. The Jets lose to the Broncos. Aaron Rodgers annoyed at. It's judgment. Used to be an error. Now it's judgment. Right. The Jets lose to the Broncos. Aaron Rodgers annoyed at Salah's comments
Starting point is 00:06:09 on offensive cadence. Let's take a listen to what Aaron had to say. Uh-oh. Thank you. It's one way to do it. The other way is hold him accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've had one false start. Morgan had one false start I believe until this.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So, you know, it's been a weapon. We use it every day in practice. You know, we rarely have a false start. And to have, I don't know, five today, it seemed like, four or five. Yeah, it seems like an outlier. I don't know if we need to make mass changes based on, you know, kind of an outlier game.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Uh-oh. That's not good. Head coach said one thing. Start playing saying something different, Ty. Glad it wasn't me because I'd be on the crowd like this. Oh, boy. Send me my robbers. They'd be on the send my robbers.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'd be on the crowd. That was me. Hey, man. They got to get on the same page. I don't even want to comment on that. They got to get on the same page. When? They got to get on the same page. I don't even want to comment on that. They got to get on the same page. When? They need it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Hold on, Ocho. When has Rodgers ever been on the same page? He marched to the beat of his own drum, bro. Y'all know. You know that. He marched to the beat of his own drum, but you can't be calling out your head coach out there. You can't do your coach like that.
Starting point is 00:07:19 He's always done that. You can't do that. He's always done it. When has he not done it? And see, that's what happens when you're't do that he's always done it when has he not done it and see that's what happens when you're great like that you got MVPs you won a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:07:30 ain't nobody gonna say anything oh hold on hold on let's get this straight everybody on this thing was great man yeah we ain't liking greatness
Starting point is 00:07:40 on this call no but I'm saying but you don't but time you know how when it comes to the quarterbacks, the more hardware you have, the greater you are, the greater
Starting point is 00:07:51 people are willing to sweep what you say, what you do under the carpet. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. No, no, no. Stop. You know I know. They ain't never swept nothing for us. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Now you got to forget who's saying it.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Now you change the quarterback that makes a statement like that they ain't sweeping nothing get away with that my point thank you stay with me that's my point yeah but when does it when does it stop never oh never no no no every one thing about it everybody in this game has a shot clock oh yeah everybody's game has a shot clock guess what happens it happens to everybody they'll tolerate you until they can replace you did you not see what happened in Green Bay
Starting point is 00:08:36 with the quarterback before Aaron Rodgers did you not see what happened to Aaron Rodgers they will tolerate you go back and look A-B situation in Pittsburgh they will tolerate you. Go back and look. A.B.'s situation in Pittsburgh. They will tolerate you until they can replace you. And when they replace you,
Starting point is 00:08:52 they done. It happens. A.B., Shannon ain't talking about you because you know A.B. is your backhand. I just want you to know I'm just trying to say you. A.B. relentless on this one. Man. I love you, dog. That was Shannon. Shannon said he saw it. I'm just trying to say you. They be relentless on this one. Man. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:06 I love you, dog. That was Shannon. Shannon said he saw it. He ain't want to talk about you. The one thing I've learned about you, what you told me is that, hey, block that noise out. You know who you are. Somebody saying this about you or calling you this, you know that's not who you are. So why does somebody that you don't even have no dealings with saying something about you or calling you this, you know that's not who you are. So why does somebody that you don't
Starting point is 00:09:26 even have no dealings with saying something about you bother you? Be like, bro. It's the attraction. It's the attraction. Most people are attracted to hate. I'm attracted to love. Show me you love me. I got you. I'm attracted to love too.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Listen, I'm attracted to love too, but I need a little bit of hate. Prime, I like a little, I need a little bit of hate Huh Prime I like a little I need a little bit of hate I need a little balance Like on Twitter See you probably got Ping pong pedals on your bed And you ain't got no ping pong tape
Starting point is 00:09:51 You probably want to be Spanking all that though All that I got a whole dungeon I got a whole dungeon See I don't want to hear that I'm just telling you about me You got a swing set
Starting point is 00:10:03 That ain't for the baby Yeah I got a swing set You want to see it I got a swing set right It ain't for the baby. Yeah, I got a swing set. You want to see it? I got a swing set right here. No, I do not want to see it, though. I don't want to see it. Hey, you know what, Chet? For those of you, you saw the movie Fifty Shades of Grey?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Mm-hmm. That was my script. They took the film. I sent in footage. I was supposed to be Christian Grey. I was supposed to play that part. It was on Tubi, right? They took my script and the footage.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I sent a visual reference to show them what I had and what I could do and what I do at home in my little dungeon. And then when they made a movie out of it, I sued and all. Sad thing about it, it's a little truth to what you're saying. That's the thing that they don't understand. To every good joke,
Starting point is 00:10:42 truth to it. Listen, one thing about it. My last name and heart. And I don't tell no jokes. I'll lie for you before I lie to you. Well, y'all, I'm clean as they come. Time. You know me.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm clean as they come, time. Sounds a little dirty to me. Sounds a little dirty to me. Lord, happy birthday. the commanders get the dub in arizona jayden daniels looked like the real deal time he's been sensational you know what cliff kingsbury will somebody say cliff kingsbury that is the engineer behind this ship. He was doing the same thing, and it didn't work out in Arizona. Okay? Cliff Kingsbury is a brilliant play coach. Let's get that straight.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Brilliant. Look at what he did. He had Johnny Manziel. When Johnny won the Heisman, he had him in Texas A&M. He had Pat Mahomes. He had Mahomes, boy. The one thing ain't no denying, his ability to coach quarterback and his ability to call plays.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Now, there's no questioning that. You look what he did. Kyler was Rookie of the year, playing extremely well. Kyler hurt his knee. It takes a quarterback a while, especially a quarterback like Kyler because he's so reliant on his legs. Has an unbelievable arm, can make all the throws.
Starting point is 00:12:16 But now he's kind of got his legs back under him. But Cliff Kingsbury and what he's doing with Jaden Daniels, 26-30, 2-33, one touchdown and interception. They ran the ball for over 200 yards. They totally dominated Arizona. You can't stop that.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You run the ball for over 200 yards, you can't stop that. And you're 26 to 30, you can't stop that. He's completed 82% of his passes through the first four games, which is an NFL record by a long shot through a four-game stretch. And I'm proud of it. I love it. I love it. So, I don't... Man, I didn't think Washington
Starting point is 00:12:51 because I'm always leery of jumping out there especially when you start in the rookie quarterback time because a lot of times you don't know. I mean, he had 55 college starts. 55. Not 25 because a lot of times these guys come in, they redshirt shirt they play a year or two and they go straight to the nfl they got 13 14 starts this young man has 55 starts and that's
Starting point is 00:13:15 probably why he looks as poised as he does back there in that pocket yeah yes yes but the commanders and he's resilient too he's resilient because they was hating on him at Arizona State and he's resilient he stood up to it he took the Heisman they didn't give him nothing last year he took it he went and took it
Starting point is 00:13:36 and he's still going and I love it Commandos lead the NFC East with a 3-1 record 2-1 away 42-14 over the Cardinals. Young Hoku kicks the Falcons to a win over the Saints. Who you say? Young who?
Starting point is 00:13:54 What's his name? Young who? Young way Hoku? Ho who? No, you ain't what you say, though. I said young Hoku. No, you can't. That's not though. I said Young Ho Kool. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:14:07 That's not their name. That wasn't the name. Who you talking about? For the Falcons. What's the name? Young. Young Way or Young Ho? Young Way Kool.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You see what I'm saying? Don't try to change that, dog. You got to stop. Hold on. Look how it's spelled. How is it spelled? Hey, Joe. Okay. How to spell Young?
Starting point is 00:14:34 How they spell Young? They don't spell it Young like we spell it. I think they spell it Y-U-E-N-G. So how you know how to spell that? And you know how to spell it And you know how to spell the O No, I know She Oh, I spelled it wrong
Starting point is 00:14:51 Young O'Coo But see, but it's Young Wayne No, I'm saying You said Young Ho That's what he said Hold on, hold on Listen to me, hold on Okay, Ocho Okay, what is this spell? hold hold on listen to me hold on okay
Starting point is 00:15:05 you have a flashback what is this spell y-o-u-n-g-h-o-e what is that spell young ho who wrote that that ain't nobody's name that ain't nobody's name
Starting point is 00:15:20 that is nobody's name that is nobody's real name and you gonna say that ain't nobody's name. That is nobody's real name. And you gonna say, that ain't nobody's name. That is not nobody's name spelled like that. You know that ain't nobody's name spelled like that. That is his name. It's pronounced Youngway,
Starting point is 00:15:38 but it's spelled Youngway. No, she put it on there as Youngway. But if you go look at it, it's Y-O-N-G-H-O-E. G-H-O-E don't make that sound. G-H-O-E. G-H-O-E. G-H-O-E.
Starting point is 00:15:56 That makes it sound. See, man, you got jokes. See, you always try to get what I do. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying you got flashbacks. You got to stop. The Falcons' defensive special teams make big plays and thrill and win. The Saints took a 24-23 lead.
Starting point is 00:16:09 What he said, Chad? Young ho. I said young ho. So she was young? No, he's the kicker. Oh, I thought you were talking about two weeks ago. I didn't know what you were talking about. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Say DB Paul Edible. You got my stomach hurting, man. Edible, who picked our all-game committee 30-yard passing appearance penalty, set up the Falcons for Youngway's kick. He kicked a 58-yarder. Now you're going to be a kicker. This is the second victory in Falcons history in which they scored zero offensive touchdowns, two or more defensive or special team touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:16:56 The last time it happened, week nine, 1977, and a win over Detroit. Wow. I think Lehman Bennett was the head coach back then. They had a good defense, but they had a good defense back then. You know, hey. Man, we were barely born then.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You're crazy. You know, they had Buddy Curry. They had Billy White Shoes. Yeah. They had Steve Barkowski. You know, shoes take that serious, right? He really went white shoes. Yeah. They had Steve Bartkowski. You know shoes take that serious, right? He really want white shoes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I've never seen him without white shoes. White dress shoes. That's what I'm saying. People don't understand Billy White shoes take that serious. Go ahead, Chad. What you got a thing up for, Chad? You ain't in church.
Starting point is 00:17:42 He probably go to the bathroom. I ain't never seen a man poop that much. Like an old man. He must be took Metamucil or some prune juice or something. That's your whatever. He stay in the bathroom. Hey, y'all got me in tears. I had to go get me a paper towel.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Joe Burrow and the Bengals get their first win over the Panthers. Ocho, your Bengals playoff prediction is still alive. Joe Burrow put together another solid day, completing 22 of 31, 232, two touchdowns, one pick. In the team's rushing attack, Chase Brown, Zach Moss combined for 131 yards, two touchdowns on 30 attempts. Ocho, your team, what you thinking? Listen, listen, the Bengals look good today.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Obviously, we did play the Panthers. The Panthers, listen, I said some things about them before they played the Raiders. Obviously, Andy Dalton is in there now. They look decent. Deontay Johnson had a good game. Xavier Leggett, you got to show up for your quarterback. You got to hold on to some of those balls.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Mingo, y'all got to do... Listen, y'all got to show up. My Bengals, we won a game. But again, people will say, oh, you won a game, but you played the goddamn Panthers. There's no disrespect to them. There's no disrespect. We needed this game. We needed this game to get some continuity, to find some rhythm.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Jamar Chase, boy, you look good, boy. That's a grown man, eh? Listen, this is why you pay a receiver like that because you get the results you get today nah no no but again he showed you today why he should be paid to keep doing his thing
Starting point is 00:19:14 probably don't take him in the middle of the season yeah in this day and age of the bag for a guy to be playing and he hadn't got his bag and everybody else has. That says a lot about his character, man. Yeah. He bought the
Starting point is 00:19:31 pole vault over Justin Jefferson. That thing will be 36-37 next year. What y'all think about the couple cats in college? It's not a couple. Everybody experienced it. Now it's the whole thing of guys getting to that fourth game and they want to get in the portal.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Just like the gentleman from one of the colleges. Yeah. Look, all I would say is this is getting in writing. A young man, he took their words that, hey, I got $100,000 for you. You come here. Okay, he gets
Starting point is 00:20:03 there and they've only given him $300,000. Bro, run me my money. But see, we always got to say it down south. Money out of sight calls a fight. I'm going to need to get that. Now, you're going to have to give me $50,000 a little bit of time. When I show up, I need to... At least. At least I got to get half the money.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But you know what? The bad thing about it, man, is it's really turning into a real business. And it's taking away the realness and the truthfulness of it like like you i knew a lot of people was gonna go through something because i know what we go through and you know we we can't do nothing up under the curtains you know that behind the curtains whatever because we have a few guys that want to come in and they want to talk to you about getting a red shirt and someone was actually playing and i know everyone else was experiencing the same thing if we're experiencing that and that's tough man yeah that's tough because now you know you grant it
Starting point is 00:20:57 then next thing you know the guy jumps in the portal on you and you try to look out for him and you said oh so you played me yeah and you got to be careful with that kind of stuff man because it's everything now everything is everything now it's it's totally different game college game that y'all play it's very different and people like they upset at the kid no no you don't quit on your team now run me my money okay tell your boss your boss oh i'm gonna pay you a hundred thousand and when you show up to work, and you work for like three weeks, and you ain't got no check. I was like, hey, no, you got
Starting point is 00:21:30 to do for the team now. No, that young man was promised something. He was promised $100,000. Now, the mistake that he made, Tav, is that he didn't get it in writing. Because he trusted, he's 18, 19 years of age.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He's trusting that adults would do the right thing. He's learning a valuable lesson at a very young age. People lie and they'll tell you what you want to hear to get you where they want you to be. And then, Oh, uh, no,
Starting point is 00:22:00 I don't blame him. I'd have left to run me my money or I'm leaving. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content.
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Starting point is 00:24:23 You know who I have a problem with in this situation? I have a problem with the agent. Not the kid. The kid has been a kid. He's doing what he's taught to do. Because he's in there just trying to play ball. He trusted someone to handle his business, to handle his contract at the collegiate level.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And he didn't. And they didn't. So I don't want to hear nothing from the agent at this point when i should have been hearing a lot from you in week one week two before we played the last two scrimmages something because that's just not right but this is where we are in college football wow the colts beat the steelers anthony richardson suffered a hip injury joe flacco finished a perfect 12 for 12 on short passes, zero to nine yards in the air,
Starting point is 00:25:08 109 yards, two touchdowns, and Sunday's win. Justin Fields is just the third quarterback in Steelers franchise history to have 300-plus passing yards plus 50 rushing yards in a single game. He joined Hall of Famer Bobby Lane and Cordell Stewart. Bobby Lane is the Hall of Famer, not Snoobee. The man is playing some good football. So what did they miss in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:25:32 Because he's playing sound football. Coaching. Him and Arthur Smith, that relationship, that maturation that they have, where he's playing to Justin Fields' strengths, not asking
Starting point is 00:25:48 him to put a cape on like they were asking him to do in Chicago. They were asking him to put that cape on and be Superman and save the day that that wasn't him. But is it fair to a kid, like, now once you're gone, they go out and get several pieces that can help you
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's not right. They go out, they go out and get several pieces. That's what I told Ocho. That's not right. They go out, they draft a wide receiver, Roman Dunzay. They trade for Keenan Allen. They go get running back. Yeah, they surrounded him with pieces that they never gave Justin Fields. And then they wonder, well, you didn't give him the talent. Look at what y'all gave Kayla Williams. Out the gate, he got three quality receivers.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Quality tight end. Now, he had Cole Komet was there, but I just think a lot of it is coaching. You get these quarterbacks, damn the head coach. Who's going to be coaching him, Ty? Who's going to be his offensive coordinator? Who's going to be the guy that's continuously and constantly in his ear? That's what's important. That's right.
Starting point is 00:26:43 That's right. You get these defensive minded head coaches and that's not, hey, I've won both ways, but that position, you need somebody that can communicate, that can get on
Starting point is 00:26:57 his wavelength and telekinesis whatever he needs. They're pattern reading each other. I'm thinking just what you're thinking. You're thinking what I'm thinking. He didn't have that. Right. And that's tough. Three weeks, no turnovers.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And I think he might have had a turnover today. Yeah, he had one. How y'all think he's going to play out with Russ? Oh, Russ ain't going to see the field. Unless something happens to Justin Fields. Look, I know what I got with Russ. I've seen 11 years body of work.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Justin Fields. I believe at me, that's me personally. I'm just saying, I think Russ is healthy enough to play. Because how my thing is, Ty, you're not healthy enough to start, but you're healthy enough to dress up. Hey, I told him I don't got nothing to do with it. He just
Starting point is 00:27:49 like having his uniform on and being a part of the team. I'm serious. I'm not that kind of coach. I'm not putting a uniform on you and I can't use you. You can't dress up like a police and you can't stop nobody. I love Russ.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I just want Russ to end right. I like everybody to have a nice landing, man, a nice safe landing. And I just want my brother to end right because I got love for him. And I just feel like he deserves one more chance, especially with the quarterbacking around the NFL right now. They deserve one more shot. They can use him in most of them. So how does it play out, guys? Because, you know, he's making a ton
Starting point is 00:28:32 of money right now. The Steelers only pay him a billion dollars. I know, but what I'm saying is that's up next year. So where does it go? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if a big payday is on the horizon.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I don't know. I'm not saying a big payday, but what I'm saying is I preclude it by saying I want him to have a great landing. Does he get his great landing? Is he off the television or whatever? I think he'll get a great landing next year. I'm trying to think. I think Justin Fields will probably be the foreseeable future,
Starting point is 00:29:06 the quarterback for the Steelers. And Russell Wilson gets another shot somewhere else that needs a quarterback, needs that veteran presence. Someone that knows what it takes to win. Someone that's obviously a Super Bowl champion. He gets that opportunity next year. There are plenty. Okay, now let's add the business in there.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I like what you're saying, Chad, because you know, you're going to always take that. You always take that lane. I know you. You know, you're going to always take that lane. I know you. You're a great guy. You always take that lane. But what is that worth? Is it like when you've been making 30? It's hard to make between one and five.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's hard to go down to five or six, dog, or nine. Like, it's hard. It's hard. Yeah. Can I tell you something real quick? Yeah. There's a place out west, right, that. It's hard. Yeah. Can I tell you something real quick? Yeah. Mm-hmm. There's a place out west, right, that could use a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback. They don't have a stable quarterback.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Who? They got an owner by the name of Mark Davis. Yeah. They're going to probably have a high-round draft pick, too. We good. We good, though. Are you good? We good.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Leave that alone. Leave that alone. Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And that's the thing, Ocho. You see a lot of these teams, they're letting these young guys play.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Now, I think that's a blessing and a curse is that when they remove everything and says, okay, go play, and these guys don't get some of the veteran leadership, the understanding, some of the knowledge that they can partake now because I got to find out by that third year because the guys that's coming in this year, the guys that's going to come in the 2025 draft. In 2028, you have to cut them a check for $300 million. It's just that simple.
Starting point is 00:30:45 $65, $70 million is going to be the going rate. I can't be wishy-washy. I can't be wait. Can he play? And I make that kind of financial commitment because you're going to have to probably guarantee him about $120 to $150 of the $300 million, Ocho. At least. The problem is if you got these young players coming into the draft and if you're getting them early and you don't have the motherfucking tools
Starting point is 00:31:09 and pieces around them, chances are they're not going to pan out how you want them to pan out because they don't have anything to operate with to begin with. I agree. You got them coming into the organization. You need them to be your savior. That's not going to work. Yeah, but I've never seen nobody say,
Starting point is 00:31:25 I learned a lot by watching the game. You learned by playing. I ain't learned nothing. I ain't learned nothing. I mean, I think my first couple games in Atlanta, you know, they was working me in because I was just fresh off a baseball field at the corner position.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And I was like, hey, man, I ain't learned nothing. Fine. You put them young quarterbacks in there, you throw them boys to the fire, you throw them boys to the sharks, especially when they're not mentally built for that. Mentally built for that. You're 100% correct.
Starting point is 00:31:52 They got to be mentally built. First of all, why are you taking them that high and they ain't mentally built for that? Well, you never know. You put them in a situation where they don't got nothing around them. Look what just happened. I ain't even finna say it. I'm not even finna say it, but you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Confidence is gone. Gone. It's gone. Yep. Mentorism, body language,
Starting point is 00:32:13 the way you talk. That's why you got to do your homework on these cats before you get them. See, a lot of times too as well, you got a cat. This is what happens. You got a cat that played two years of high school and started.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Because he started when he was a junior senior. Now he go to college, he played two years and started when he was with a junior so you got four years and you're throwing them out there what you think gonna happen man yeah what you think gonna happen when they start rolling coverages and they are giving you complex defenses and you sitting up there you ain't never seen that before in your life man and you got nobody talking to you and thinking about now you you call it a play that takes you 35 seconds to even call it there and play. I don't know where they do that at no more. Like, why does it have to be like that? It don't have to be like that.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Because they want their offense to seem like it's so unique. They got to think. It ain't. Man, we got players called the baby. Lil Wayne. Snoop. And everybody know what to do. But you know they want to have...
Starting point is 00:33:06 You got a kid that can learn a whole rap song. And it just came out. But if you start putting that complex into play, because that's his culture. That's his nature. You got to let him work within that. But I never agree with these plays that
Starting point is 00:33:22 takes you 40 seconds to even recite. That don't even make sense. I agree. I agree. Then you got all these offenses in college football running tempo, and they getting off during the 80s and 90s snaps. Because they just holding up a phrase, or they holding up a pitch or something,
Starting point is 00:33:41 and they know what that means. Mm-hmm. Everybody know what to do. The Bears get them. Everybody know what to do. The Bears get a... Everybody know what to do. Go ahead. You want to say something? No, I was thinking about holding up a pitch or something.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I know you know exactly what to do. The Bears get a win on this depleted Rams. DeAndre Swift knifed through the Rams' defense to a tune of 93 rushing yards on 16 carries. Swift also led the Bears in receiving with 72 yards on seven catches. Swift generated more than 165 total yards, more than he had in weeks one through three combined. Players reportedly asked OC for offense to be more aggressive. DJ Moore has now caught a touchdown from three number one overall draft picks, Caleb Williams, Baker Mayfield, and Cam Newton.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Wow. Crazy. Can the Bears turn this thing around? What's going on? What do the Bears need, Ty? If Virginia McCaskey and Pace, they want to come to you and say, Coach, what do you think we need? You know, when you've experienced a lot of losing
Starting point is 00:34:50 historically in an organization, you got to go in and get that thing from the root man and make some significant changes because people seem to think it's just the guys on the field that are losing. It's the whole darn organization that's losing. And it's a losing mentality. And if you don't get that mess up out your building, it's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's going to be consistently there. You can't just flip a couple people, a few people, and it's gone. No, that's not the answer. You're going to have to root that thing. You're going to have to root that thing. You're going to have to get that thing from the roots. Wow. And they've been losing for quite a while. Yeah, the fruit of it is the losing. But what's the truth?
Starting point is 00:35:35 The root of it is why. What's the truth? What's bearing that fruit? Fruit has to come from somewhere. They just don't fall out of the sky all the time. Yeah, you already know. Listen, when it comes to organizations, even though the roots, when it comes to trees,
Starting point is 00:35:52 is at the bottom, when it comes to organizations, it starts at the top. Mm-hmm. Well, that's where the root at. That's the sun. That's the sun, you know, helping that grow. Yeah. The Raiders get a win without both Max Crosby, Ankle,
Starting point is 00:36:07 and Devontae Adams' hamstring. The Cleveland Browns drop to 1-3 by losing yet another winnable game. The Browns allow 99 yards rushing on 20 missed tackles, tied for the most of any defense in the game this season, Jets week one. At this point, this is going to be very tough. What are the Browns going to do with Deshaun? We've had three years, and we keep
Starting point is 00:36:32 saying he just needs a little time. But he don't look like Deshaun. It's going to be a tough one. I do think that they have ways to get out of a deal. This is what I heard. It's not what I know.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Factually, I've heard that. So I'm pretty sure they already start thinking of that before the season even commenced. It's going to be a tough one for them. They're going to go in another direction. If they continue this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I just look fixable. I haven't watched him play. Well, I did. Yeah. I just, does it look fixable? No, I haven't watched him play. Well, I did. He doesn't look, he doesn't look, he doesn't look the same time.
Starting point is 00:37:11 He just does it. He doesn't look the same. And I mean, I wish, I wish, I wish I could say, you know what? If he,
Starting point is 00:37:18 he had, I mean, look, he had in Joku and he had, and I, I get it being off a year because his last year in Houston, he didn't play. So that's a year off. You get better by playing football, not just practicing football.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You need to play, okay? Then he gets suspended for 11 games. He plays the five games. Okay, okay. Then he comes back next year, the following year, he gets hurt, like what, week two, week three, and he misses a whole other season you it's hard when you're professional forget the profession to take that kind of time off dr elletroge dr andrews the doctors they don't take no two or three years off from doing surgery time they do surgeries every day multiple Multiple surgeries. To sharpen
Starting point is 00:38:05 and to hone that craft, that skill. What Deshaun has played, what? Five games, seven games in three years? I just don't. That's another organization that you look at
Starting point is 00:38:20 and say, wow. Come on now. What's going on here? Yeah. It's another one of those organizations. You know, it's funny, and it's one way to say that, but then you also look at how Flacco looked and what he was able to do in that five, six-game win streak, and that offense looked different.
Starting point is 00:38:39 It looked completely different last year. Once he was at the helm, it's like, well, hell, if Joe Flacco can come in here and do it and all the receivers you know they're catching balls and you know doing all this stuff mark cooper balling then deshaun should be able to do it so i'm thinking about yeah but are they calling a different game like you got to think about all those facts are they calling a different game hold on wait a minute now so if you have joe flacko who's the backup quarterback to me i would think the goddamn playbook is
Starting point is 00:39:05 open, but it ain't open like it's open for Deshaun Watson, who's the actual starter. You got to play with him. It may be called a different game. You think so? It may be called... Yeah, it may be a different... It may be... That happens.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah, but they're two different quarterbacks. We can't call the same game that we're calling for our backup quarterback as we call for Shadori. It's a whole different game. When we say it like that. Deshaun is mobile. Deshaun is athletic. Joe Flacco is prototypical Statue of Liberty.
Starting point is 00:39:39 He ain't going nowhere. I will play cover five. I ain't worried about it. Where are you going? Where could he? He ain't seen it all though. But he ain't going nowhere. I'm going to play cover five. I ain't worried about it. Where are you going? Where could he? He ain't seen it all, though. But he ain't seen it all. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:50 What coverage hasn't he seen? Knows how to study. Knows how to study. I mean, you know, he's old school, man. Old school kids, they know this stuff. And he's played in big-time games. He's won a Super Bowl. I mean, you look at his playoff resume, it's very impressive. It's very impressive. It's very impressive.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was a drop touchdown away from going to probably two Super Bowls. That Lee Evans, remember that time? He hit Lee Evans right in the bread basket. And then the kicker missed a kick that could have possibly sent the game to overtime. Joe Flacco, postseason Joe Flacco, if he had played like that in regular season, he'd be the Hall of Famer. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I mean, he'd be... I just want Deshaun to do so well. I really do, man. I want our guys to be successful. Because he's a very likable guy. Very likable. CJ Stroud leads his second career fourth quarter comeback. Good teams win despite not playing their best.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Stroud made plays in the final possession, capping it off with a one-yard lob to Arike's brother, Ariko Ogumbawale. Ogumbawale. You get that one right, but you're going to get the other one right. Stroud generated 345 fans a yard and two touchdowns as they come back and win against the Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:41:10 Jaguars. What was that score? 20 to 24. Hey, Ty. We got to do something about Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence missed too many easy throws, Ocho. I mean, he got guys wide open. He right. It don't look open. It don't look good.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It don't look good at Jacksonville right now. I know somebody look good at Jacksonville. Jacksonville, how about Jacksonville for four miles? Oh, that's a good way. That's a long way, man. That's a long way. I ain't going man that's a long way I ain't going back to Fort Myers no way
Starting point is 00:41:46 I love my Fort Myers but my mama didn't they downstairs right here Trevor Lawrence was 18-33 169 two touchdowns
Starting point is 00:41:53 he was only sacked once they ran the ball 24-158 but he just I mean two minute throws he got Brian Thomas for a touchdown
Starting point is 00:42:01 I'm like bro you gotta hit somebody you're too first of all yeah if you only get sacked once He got Brian Thomas for a touchdown. I'm like, bro, you got to hit somebody. First of all. Yeah. If you only get in sight once, that means there's not a tremendous amount of pressure on you or you're getting the ball out of there pretty quickly. You got to hit.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Your completion percentage should be much higher. He's 18 of 33. That's not good. Yeah. And they ran the ball. They run the ball for what? Five yards over six yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You run the ball for six yards of carry. You only get sacked once. Why is your completion percentage? You need to be in the 70% time. What's their record? What's their record? One and three. They 0-4.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Don't tell me that. 0-4 Don't tell me that 0-4 Travis But CJ Stroud was 27-40 345, two touchdowns Zero interceptions, clean game They ran the ball over 100 yards. Nico Collins, 12 for a buck 51 in the touchdown. Stephon Diggs, five for 69.
Starting point is 00:43:11 He did have a rush touchdown. Ogumba Wale also had a touchdown. Dalton Schultz had a key third down conversion. Mechie. But, man, what you call him? CJ just got it. He just has it, man. He just has it, Ty. I love that kid, man. I love what he stands
Starting point is 00:43:30 for. I love his presence. I love his command of the offense. You know what? Some guys just go to better situations, man. We just got to be honest. Some of you guys just go to better situations and it's tough. It's tough on those guys that don't
Starting point is 00:43:45 because they get the blame and their career is a it's during the set to be over and it's not even their fault man and they may never get another chance to be that start because you think about it he went there they had they got nico collins they had tank dale uh noah brown was there uh dalton schultz very solid tight end. They ran the ball Pierce last year. They kind of upgraded that position with Mixon. And the guy that came in, who was that? Cam Akers. So they've had – CJ has had players around him to help him succeed.
Starting point is 00:44:17 You see, they played some defense, though, dog. They played some defense, man. They played some defense last year, tremendously. And guess what they did? They went out to have Stingley. They locked him up. They get the guy from Minnesota. They brought him over.
Starting point is 00:44:34 You know, they take Will Anderson Jr., high draft pick. Yes, sir. So they, man, they legit. They're going to be a problem. They're a young team, and I love them. They're going to have to put this thing together because, you know, CJ. Well, first of all, that division is not tough. Let's just get that straight.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Well, they have the best quarterback in that division. Normally the best quarterback is going to win the division. That's right. They can take that division every year. Yep. And they went and got him digged. So they had Nico Collins. They got Tank Dale. They got Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 00:45:14 They said, guess what? We're going to get you another weapon. We're going to get Stephon Diggs. You know what? We're going to upgrade our running game. We're going to get Joe Mixon and Cam Akers. Wow. So, and they got a solid offensive line. They got
Starting point is 00:45:30 Tunsell, who's one of the, if not the highest paid left tackle. They're solid there. They can run the football well enough, but they put the ball in CJ's hands and say, CJ, do what you do, son. He protected it as in college though. I mean, he's not turning the ball over at all.
Starting point is 00:45:47 No. So I love how he protects the ball. I love what he brings to the game. Now it's time for our favorite segment, Ocho. It's time for Q&A. We got graphics, too. Check this out. Look at our graphics.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Hey, y'all came up since last time. Hey, you on the back porch because I hear a cricket or something in the backdrop. I am on the back porch. You hear them crickets. Yeah. You hear them crickets when you were down your lane.
Starting point is 00:46:19 You hear them crickets when you were down your lane. I'm just saying. You hear them creter that night. What? What? Hey, that's your phone with them cricketers that is outside. That's outside. No, I'm outside.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'm sitting on the patio. For real? Yeah, it's beautiful out here, man. Vivian. Oh, them TVs. Them TVs on the wall. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. You kidding me?
Starting point is 00:46:44 I like big TVs. This question is for you, Coach Prime. She's like, Coach Prime, when are you going to shave? This week. You going to shave it off? By the time they see me next game, I'll be young again.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I'll be young again. Philosophical truth and wisdom Shannon you have to be able to take a joke fam dang they think you got sensitive y'all think you got sensitive cause you was sweating now you did go to that water pretty quick
Starting point is 00:47:20 look this tea time people don't understand our relationship No, look. I didn't go to the water, man. No, this T. Time. They don't, see, people don't understand our relationship. So they don't get it. It's like when I said what I said, oh, I guess he and Prime ain't friends no more. He talking about his T. I said, guys, y'all that shallow.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah, you're supposed to. I want you to tell the truth. I don't want no lie. You're supposed to tell the truth. And we've done a lot of each other. Even when I'm wrong. No, no, no. But see, the thing about it, they don't understand you're not personal.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You're talking about real stuff that really transpires. It's not personal. Now, when you start talking about me, it's personal. And that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the product on the field. That's right I said he
Starting point is 00:48:06 let me ask you a question what y'all think he tell him in the meeting if we can't run the football we can't protect the quarterback we can't stop the run we can't attack their quarterback how do you expect us to win those are the two foundation pieces of any team
Starting point is 00:48:23 you need to be able to run the ball protect your quarterback you need to be able to run the ball, protect your quarterback. You need to be able to stop the run and attack the other team's quarterback. If you can't do those things, you can't win. You know, some people are like, you just come out there and want to throw the ball 100 times. You don't want to run. Like, that's not the game plan. I promise you, that's not the game plan. Not mine.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Get a ball to of running back. Let him just run through the hard defense. Yeah, we want to do that. As General I said, the first nightcap episode I watched was Coach Prime episode. Having missed nightcap says my favorite member was saying I generally make them. Oh, no, I have mercy.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Good to see you again, Coach Prime. Yeah, we've seen that. I remember that. You remember that. Yeah, we seen that. I remember that. You remember that, though, Chad? We don't remember that. Wait, what are you saying? Yeah, I remember that. I mean, hey, look.
Starting point is 00:49:10 The one thing me and Coach, me and Ty, are going to do. Now, we're going to be down. I'm 10 toes down. He 8. But we in there together, though. We in there together. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:20 You see what I'm saying? I know he's going to get it in. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying You see what I'm saying That's why I do what I do That's exactly why I do what I do We all tweeted We two shoulder tweeted the whole show
Starting point is 00:49:34 But we good now we go good Hey that's what we do Oh lord Man look Man We should have time. You and I talked about we was before our time. You remember when you used to come on NFL Network?
Starting point is 00:49:52 You hit me up. You say, hey, you say, I need you. I say, tell me what you need. He said, I need you. Hey, all I need is one Sunday. I need Sunday. 18 weeks. This is what he and I talked about doing.
Starting point is 00:50:05 We were before our time, though. I'm going to tell you what. I'm going to tell you who else. Chad was, too. He came on there with me a couple times, too. Oh, yeah, that's right. And we had fun. I mean, we was just before our time. Because we could have
Starting point is 00:50:22 been producing our own stuff, doing it the way we wanted to do. Because I know Chad don't need no script. Don't give him none of that. Just let him be who he is. And they want him to read this. Hey, man, leave this man alone, man. Let him be who he is. That's why we love him.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Bad. Ocho, I don't know what you saw, but hey, I show at the food on that show. Hey, I need you to be you. He's like, just like you and I be joking, bring sure had the food on that show. Hey, I need you to be you. He's like, just like you and I be joking, bring that to the show. I said, okay, say no more to you. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I'm here. Are you sure not to? We had some, oh, God, we had some moments on there. You know, L.T. was on there. So, L.T. was just sitting up there. And L.T. was like, these fools are crazy. They are ignorant on their own. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says,
Starting point is 00:51:08 Hi, Coach Prime. What's the biggest lesson you've learned as a coach that you wish you had known during your playing days? And how do you apply that lesson to your coaching today? Oh, biggest lesson I've learned as a coach that I've known in my playing days. These kids are different. These known in my playing days. These kids are different.
Starting point is 00:51:27 These kids are different these days. They're totally different. You can't expect what you would give. Don't ever expect what you would give. Stay right there now. Stay right there. Stay right there. I gotta write that down. Yeah. You can't expect
Starting point is 00:51:45 what you would give. I'm going to use this as my next argument. That's tough. That's why I can't be no coach. Ty got he has patience. And that's the number one thing you have to have in surplus.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Because like you said, look, we go out there, we practice all week. We go over Saturday morning. We talk about the first 15. We have Saturday night meetings. We go over the first 15. The first, and I'd be, dang, if we don't get out there. And the first, somebody jump off sides. Somebody falls.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I'm like, bro, we've been practicing this. We've been going over these plays here for three days. How you mess it up? And they said, my bad. And this is the thing. My bad. My bad. We know. Oh, you want me to take the blame on that one when you jumped offside? No, I'm good. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And you can't be critical like we used to be because they can't handle that either. Nope. It's a whole different, oh, it's a whole different game. But you don't be critical like we used to be because they can't handle that either. Nope. It's a whole different game I did, man. But you don't – you don't curse anyway. Yeah, but I can make you feel like I do. I can make you feel like I do. Thanks, my kids. Anthony Blaylock, can you ask Coach Prime,
Starting point is 00:53:07 how is he preparing for life after Shador? Oh, first of all, you try to get – I know my son like a book, so I know all his ways and the things that makes him who he is. And when you're recruiting, you look for those attributes. Like you can't find another Travis Hunter, but you could get close. You could find those attributes that he has. He may not be a two-way player. You may have to get two guys to be that one guy,
Starting point is 00:53:36 but try to find those attributes that he has that's already in it. Tom, look at that. So life after, you know, door shallow or Bucky going to be with me. He's Time, look at me. So life after, yeah, life after, you know, door shallow or Bucky gonna be with me. He's not gonna leave me. But trust me, I don't look forward to that, but it's coming. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures
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Starting point is 00:55:57 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ty, I remember, help me understand this, and I'm not just talking about college players, I'm talking about more of the NFL players. The NFL players used to say, we want guys that have played the game, played the game at a high level to critique us. OK, because what they say, you never played the game, so you don't have the right. OK, fine. Now you get a guy like you get a guy like Ocho, you get a guy like Cam.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And we offer what I believe is fair, but harsh criticism. Now we get labeled as haters. I'm going to tell you something, and this is profound. You have a unique personality which we adore, and you could do that. And you are one of the greatest, and you could do that.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Chad and I, we can't do that. And I don't know why, but there's something inside me, there's definitely something inside him, because Chad ain't been talking about nobody, especially the receiver. He ain't know why but it's something inside me it's definitely something inside him because chad ain't been talking about nobody's president he ain't gonna do it yeah and i don't really talk about corners i don't do it because you know i'm big brother i'm the og so if i talk about him as a rap i i i we that pressure So, I was always so cognizant
Starting point is 00:57:25 of how they felt that I could never, I could talk about a receiver all day, but I could never talk about a DB, man. I just couldn't say, man, this guy ain't it. He getting killed. I couldn't do it. And Chad ain't gonna, he ain't gonna do it. He's gotten better though, Brian. He's gotten
Starting point is 00:57:41 better. He's gotten better though. Yeah, I've gotten better. I've gotten better though. Yeah, I've gotten better. I've gotten better with being critical without having to be as harsh as I should. So I've gotten better. But you know me very well. And I told you I struggle with that. A lot of people get on my case,
Starting point is 00:57:56 you know, Prime, about, oh, you can't be on this. You can't be on this show because you're not very critical of people and you won't say the things that need to be said. But Prime, you know how I am when it comes to talking about people. It's just hard for me to do.
Starting point is 00:58:09 That's not your nature. You see the thing about Chad a clown, but he's not been a clown to you. Chad ain't built like that. He has no hate, no animosity, none of that. That ain't in his heart. That's not how he's built.
Starting point is 00:58:26 That's not how he is. Shannon will kill you and look at you and walk away from you and light a match and throw it on you to finish you off. I'm going to sit up there, pat you down, get all the smoke off you and pray for you. That's just our three personalities.
Starting point is 00:58:44 That's just how we are but you know what Ty, but the thing is and people like, oh that you hating? No bro all I'm doing is taking my experience of playing in the NFL and what I see, and I don't watch the kind of film that I did when I was at CBS because
Starting point is 00:58:59 but there's a reason why guys, they say I'm hating don't nobody say, that ain't what happened or you don't know what you're talking about they don't never say that O God, they say I'm hating. Don't nobody say, well, that ain't what happened. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. They don't never say that. Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:59:08 they say I'm hate. They say I'm wrong. They say I'm hate. The only way they see reason they say that is the tongue. Yeah, that's it. Is it? But see the thing about you at the place in your life,
Starting point is 00:59:22 you ain't got time. I ain't got time to be trying to make you feel good about me telling you the truth. That's who you are. I ain't going to make you feel good about me telling you the truth. You better handle this truth. This is what it is. That's how it is.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Faye said, hey, good people, congrats Prime on becoming a pop-pop. Congratulations, Ocho, on the Bengals' first win. Congratulations, Shannon, on Cat Williams' interview. Has surpassed 77 million views. Could you please ask Cat to close the portal? Be open. I'm done with 2024. I could not have imagined
Starting point is 00:59:53 that when I sat down with that interview time that... God, dude. You got to understand what you've been through in your life and your journey. Come on, man. Don't you deserve it? I think I journey come on man don't you deserve it i think i've earned it don't you deserve it but i think the thing you know what helped me the most is that a lot of what was going on with me is that you was right there and you and i was talking about it
Starting point is 01:00:18 and you like bro you think god brought you this far to bring you this far? He's like, you favored. He's like, while they talking, you're still building. You're still accumulating. You're still producing great content. Don't worry about what they say. Worry about what you know. You're okay. The people that love you will continue to love you. The people that support you will continue to support you.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You will find out who was I told, I was, I just had a podcast club, Shay Shay. Ocho, my grandfather used to say, boy, the devil will never show up as the devil because if he did, you wouldn't do the deal with him. You see that? Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, stop.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Ocho, stop. Ocho, stop. Come on, come on now. Bring that to me one more time. The devil will never show up as the devil because if he showed up as the devil, you wouldn't do the deal. You see, the enemy will never show up as the enemy because if he did, you wouldn't allow him in your circle. So, therefore, he couldn't
Starting point is 01:01:18 get close to you or she couldn't get close to you. You have to learn. Some things you have to learn. The one thing I can honestly say is that everything that I've gone through and I've talked to time is like, a lot of times I'd be going through stuff and he would pick up the phone and call me.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He didn't give me an opportunity because he know I was leaving. And he said, yeah, he said, look, yeah, they're jokes, but there's a little truth in the jokes that they're telling. He said, but hey, let it go off your back it'll pay it'll it'll be it'll percolate for a day or two a week or two but just don't just let it go that's what was like
Starting point is 01:01:56 like out after cat is is that what i mean nobody had a problem with anything i said anything that i did until cat came along and then all of a sudden it's another level it's different levels to this thing man like when you start to affect and infect people lives that stuff is real like you you you have a true voice amongst our people right now and it it's a mighty voice. You got to take that serious. And the devil ain't playing with that. He's trying to destroy your character so people won't believe you or trust you or find fault in you. That's what they do.
Starting point is 01:02:34 That's the wiles of the enemy. Everybody you know like us, okay? You know what I mean by us. Try to attack our character, man. So our people won't believe in us or they won't look up to us or out to us. Try to attack our character, man. So our people won't believe in us or they won't look up to us or out to us. They'll try to
Starting point is 01:02:49 destroy us. That's the attack. Or they give you enough resources to let you kill your own character. Well, they ain't gave me enough of that yet. I'm sure I ain't gonna kill my character but they gonna give me enough money that I tell you what I'm gonna leave the Sharp family
Starting point is 01:03:10 we ain't gonna kill you but you ain't shot at it I'm gonna leave the Sharp family a lot better than what I came into and I'm gonna leave my community and Savannah State and a lot of other things a lot better than it was, I promise you that so my day coming my day coming D My day coming.
Starting point is 01:03:27 D. Taylor says, DJ, Florida State quarterback says, how FSU has fallen from undefeated season to its abysmal season. Say he still loves football. Ocho, Ocho and Tyne, when you see
Starting point is 01:03:42 a guy, he left Clemson, he left Oregon State, he left, he's at Florida State now. Is that a red flag to you when a guy has this is his third university in, say, what, three years? Is that a red flag to you, Coach? No, not anymore because of how today's football in the portal works. So it is really not anymore. It used to be once upon a time, two schools was it.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That was too many. So it's not anymore. You just got to really examine and ask why. You got to ask those true questions when you have a guy on a recruiting trip. Okay, I know you're in the portal, but let me know why. Because I already talked to them. I already talked to your old school. They told me why.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I want to hear your why. You you know why are you in this portal so this stuff is complex man and you got to really get some deep down interviews with these kids to find out what's really going on with them because sometimes they didn't leave the way you thought they left i think some of them keep running. They keep running from competition. That's true. They don't want to compete. There's a lot like that. How do you go from Oregon, the Clemson, the FSU?
Starting point is 01:04:56 So me, based on what you look like this year, it makes me believe you're running away from competing. Yeah, but the thing about it, every stop this gentleman has made he's been a starter so he's he's won the job so he's he's won the job but is he is he winning the job based on winning the job and holding on to the job two different things time you put the wrong thing in water it ain't gonna taste like tea true okay just understand that put the wrong thing in water, it ain't gonna taste like tea. True. Okay. Just understand that now.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. You put the wrong thing in water. Yeah. Don't expect tea. Boiling water can have two different effects, Ocho. It'll soften the potato, but it'll harden the egg. Come on.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Ocho, I'm done. I ain't giving. Come on. Ocho, I'm done. I ain't giving you no more, Ocho. I'm done. I'm done. Time out. Time out, Ocho. Let's go. We're going to keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Boy. Where you got that from? He got that from the... What did he say? You just about to soften the potato on the egg. You see, we were doing so good. We were doing so good.
Starting point is 01:06:08 We were doing so good. You know, hey. Hey, that was a good one. Bad. Hey, give me that boiled water line one more time. What is it?
Starting point is 01:06:20 Hey, it'll soften the potato or harden the egg. Boiling water. It's boiling water. Two different effects. Harden it'll soften the potato or harden the egg. Boiling water. It's boiling water. Two different effects. Harden one, soften the other. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:31 That's right. That's a good one. That's a word right there, boy. It's a word. He got a word. There you go. See, there you go. Man, I was dead serious at that. No, you weren't. No, no, no. When it comes. No, you weren't. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:06:46 When it comes to me, you ain't never serious. No, I'm always serious, man. No. Don't let it fool you. Chad, don't let it fool you. This is him. This is the Coach Prime. Not the one that y'all see with his arms folded.
Starting point is 01:07:00 He got the mic turned up. That ain't him. Hey, y'all know what? Us three need to take a trip. We need to go on a vacation together and film everything. Now, that's going to be fun. Hold on. Where we going?
Starting point is 01:07:12 Where we going? We going to Columbia. Oh, Lord. Columbia? I want to go to Houston. I want to go to Houston. Let's go to Houston. I want to go to Houston.
Starting point is 01:07:23 There ain't no trip hey Prime Houston the trip I know Houston the trip Dallas is too I'm talking about Houston Lord have mercy okay we go to Columbia
Starting point is 01:07:38 our dollar is more in Colombia yeah yeah what are we spending it on we'll find something we're going to get us a place on the ocean and just have a great week man I'm going to bring the cigars then
Starting point is 01:07:56 I'll watch out I promise you if when he was at Jackson State if we'd have had a reality show I wouldn't even want to do TV no more over
Starting point is 01:08:17 it would have been over it would have been over I guarantee you we go one for a week, the three of us. It's going to be interesting. Oh, yeah. It's going to be interesting. We look at life three different ways.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Absolutely. We look at life three different ways. Completely. Completely. Yeah. But we come to the same conclusion at the end of the night. We look at it three different ways.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Man, look here. Man, it was an unbelievable show. Chad want to know when is our coach coming back? Hold up. He'll be back. He'll be back probably. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. He'll be back. You got any job openings
Starting point is 01:09:05 yeah but you ain't gonna do nothing you ain't gonna do right hold on I'm just trying I'm trying to diversify my portfolio you know I got about 37 11 jobs right
Starting point is 01:09:14 I know I know and I'm proud of you I got a lot of them but just you're really good at this cause you're a really good teacher you're a really good teacher right
Starting point is 01:09:21 but can you teach what you did no yeah yeah i come at matter of fact and the kind of teacher i am i don't do it by by with words i put the cleats on and actually show so i come out yeah i show i come out there i route travis ass up and then i lock him up yeah but what if i get mad that you ride the traffic up and I put my cleats on? You can't do no eight toes, man. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:09:49 I knew you was going to say that. I set you up for that. I didn't think you was going to take the bait. Y'all ain't no good. Y'all, you know what? I'm back. I'm back. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm back. Y'all ain't... Man, look here I ain't going
Starting point is 01:10:06 I'm bowing out right now I ain't going nowhere with y'all two I don't want no part of that I will stay right here in the states I'm gonna let y'all two have that
Starting point is 01:10:15 y'all hey y'all FaceTime me it's the only time I allow y'all two to FaceTime me I don't want no I want no part of that
Starting point is 01:10:22 man look here, man. Man. Man. Oh, shit. We'll get it back in a couple of weeks. We'll get it back in a couple of weeks. We don't want to overrun, overstep our welcome. You know, we get them a couple of times a year. So we're going to get them again.
Starting point is 01:10:56 We definitely going to have it back on. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Guys, thank you for joining us for a very special episode. Coach Prime of the CU Buffs. They're 4-1, right? They're 4-1. Big victory yesterday over UCF. I'm very proud, very excited for him. And when he hit me this morning, he said,
Starting point is 01:11:16 hey, I'm coming on. So I passed the information on to Ash. And so guys, it's always a joy to have one of the great NFL players coaching at Colorado his second year. Got them playing extremely well. Ty, I really appreciate you coming on tonight.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Calvadocho and I, it's indeed an honor and a pleasure to have you on, man. And hopefully you guys enjoyed it and know what a wonderful treat that it is because he doesn't do a whole lot of these. And for him, I was like, okay, bro, you just want a segment. He said, no, I want to do the whole show. He's like, hey, I want to be up on the screen when you guys are talking. I want them
Starting point is 01:11:54 to see me. I don't want no segment. I want to do the whole show. So, Time, I really appreciate that. Ocho and I really, really appreciate that. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, the Liberty City's own, the route runner extraordinaire, the bingo ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, the all pro.
Starting point is 01:12:12 That's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Just call him Ocho. Guys, make sure you go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. And remember, every subscriber counts, and we thank you for counting so much. Thank you for helping us matter because of you, the wars that you see behind us. We could not have done it without you. Thank you. Chez Balaportier, we have it in stock. Hopefully by the end of the year, we'll be in 14 to 16 states. If we're currently not in a state or city near you,
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Starting point is 01:13:00 I repeat, Unc'n Ocho Tees are back in stock and if you ordered merch in the last three weeks, it started shipping out last week. Again, thank you, Coach Prime, for joining us. We greatly appreciate that. Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson lead the Baltimore Ravens over the Buffalo Bills 35-10.
Starting point is 01:13:19 We spoke to Coach Prime. Colorado beat UCF 48-21. What are some other scores here? We want to – Chiefs beat the Chargers 17-10, possibly lose Rasheed Rice for the entire season. What they fear is an ACL injury. The Bucs beat the Eagles. Baker had a huge game.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Green Bay lose 29-31 over the – they lose to the Minnesota Vikings. Jets lose to the Broncos. The Commanders do a demolition job on the Cardinals. And basically the Falcons walk it off. They kick a 58-yard field goal as they beat their division rival, New Orleans Saints. And the Bengals get their first win, Ocho, with a win over the Carolina Panthers. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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