Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Aaron Rodgers still deciding on future, Deion wants to change up the spring game, & Travis is compared to Ocho

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react Aaron Rodgers still deciding where he’s going to play next year, Deion wants to change up the spring game! Twitter is comparing Trav...is to Ocho & much more!06:14 - Aaron Rodgers may wait until draft for decision20:38 - Deion Sanders wants outside opponent for spring game22:48 - Travis Hunter compared to Ocho24:29 - Large wild animal purchase29:00 - Most Americans spend half pay check before deposit 31:42 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:52 Brett Favre did? It seems he's trying to go in the same footsteps as Brett Favre. Listen, going to the Vikings, you know why he wants to go there. You see what Sam Darnold was able to do? Now, I'm just saying, if we can get just a flash, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have to be Aaron Rodgers' bull.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Not with that kind of talent around him. Not with them. Just put the ball in the vicinity. Just put it in the vicinity. If Sam Donald could do what he did with Addison, Hawkinson, and Justin Jefferson, what do you think Aaron Rodgers could do? Now, you're telling me Sam Donald, even though as young as he is, he's better than Aaron Rodgers at any age?
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I mean no disrespect to Sam. I mean, I'm just asking, huh? What do you think? Are you saying Sam Donald right now is better than Aaron Rodgers? What I will say is this. The worst thing to be, the worst place to be,
Starting point is 00:07:48 is to want a girl that doesn't want you. Ooh, wait a minute. Oh, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. Where's my goddamn notepad? Slow down, now. You heard what he said.
Starting point is 00:08:03 It's not even Sunday. You heard what he said. It's not even Sunday. You heard what he said. Come on. The Giants and the Steelers want him. Uh-huh. He want the bikes. Mm. Now give me that quote one more time.
Starting point is 00:08:17 There ain't nothing worse than you want a girl, but that girl doesn't want you. You got two options. I got two. Very attractive. Right. Very attractive. Nice. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Good girl. Got the head on right. Yeah. Good college degree. Come from a good, come from good family. Yes, sir. God fearing women.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Uh-huh. I don't want that. I want, I want, I want the girl. the girl that I know has a boyfriend. Oh, Lord. Come on, man. But I think I have more to offer her. Right. And see, this is where you go wrong now.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm going to give you a little context. I'm going to extend it a little further. You not only do you want the girl that has a boyfriend, but just so happens, what happens if she leaves the boyfriend for you? And now you think because you got more to offer, what she did to him, she ain't going to do to you because you have more to offer. But one thing about history, if you... You'll lose him how you found him. Come on, come again... You'll lose them how you found them. Come on. Come again? You'll lose them how you found them.
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know what? I'm going to do like my grandma used to do in church. I'm going to excuse myself. Boy, listen. History repeats itself, boy. It never lies. It never will. Hey, boy, I'm feeling good. Boy, we might be on here four hours a night.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm feeling good. Well, let me call somebody. Who you finna call? I don't know. Man, this thing. Oh, Joe, I had this phone in. This thing ain't been on since 2010. See if the battery work.
Starting point is 00:10:00 No, I know that thing. Mm-mm. It don't. But that was back in the day. You know, you kept your phone in your front pocket. You know, that was a good old thing. Chat, y'all been with that? Phone in your front pocket. Let me see your phone. Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Hey, that was uh look i i part of him you know that's a that's a very good supporting cast a system that he's familiar with is the west coast system um you mentioned but them. You mentioned, but who else is in that division? Hey, he don't want no part of that. He don't want no part of that. What team did he play for for almost two decades? What team moved on from him? The very reason that Brett Favre went to Minnesota. Why did he go to Minnesota? Because he wanted to go
Starting point is 00:11:01 to the team that said, you know what? We better off without you. Eric's looking at it like, oh, y'all want to move on? Right. Okay. Let me show you what's up.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Two times, twice a year. Mm-hmm. Let me show you why you should have. And honestly, again, I'll say it again. The supporting cast in Minnesota, as opposed to New York, is completely different. And I can see him, even if he's not the Aaron Rodgers of old, Just give me 50, 60% of Aaron Rodgers. That ain't good enough. They gonna be hell.
Starting point is 00:11:52 But that's what you told me when they got him. No, no, no. I'm talking about in Minnesota now. I'm talking about in Minnesota. So what he's lacking and what he's missing on what he used to be The supporting cast Didn't overcome that
Starting point is 00:12:09 But you told me The Jets was good enough All they needed was a quarterback No no no They ain't had that I love me some Gary Wilson now Love me some Gary Wilson I know what he can do But we talking about I love me some Gary Wilson now. Love me some Gary Wilson.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I know what he can do. But we talk about Jettis, and we talk about Addison and Hopkinson. Yeah. And then we got that young bull in the backfield too. Wait, Jones? Yeah, Jones. Come on now. That's a whole different ballgame over there.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And that's no disrespect to Brees Hall. You know, he do his thing too. But, man, can you imagine? My figure, at some point in time, so what are we doing with J.J. McCarthy? Oh, man, he can sit behind. I'm just saying, if things play out the way
Starting point is 00:12:59 Aaron Rodgers wants them to play out, he'd sit back one more year. Sit back one more year. And if Aaron Rodgers is playing bad, you, he'd sit back one more year. Sit back one more year. And if Aaron Rodgers is playing bad, you plug him, and that's it. That's it. That's it for eight. That's it. But it seems to me Rodgers is looking at the landscape.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He's like, hold on. Baker Mayfield, $300 million, $400 million. Sam Donald, $300 million. He's looking at something like that. He ain't looking in for no one-year deal, no one-year $20 million deal. Man, he ain't finna get no two, three-year deal. Man, please. You know they ain't finna
Starting point is 00:13:31 play that. Absolutely not. Not with J.J. McCarthy coming back. Hey, he said y'all gave Kirk Cousins that. Well, Kirk Cousins show up. Kirk Cousins' history shows that he buys in. Kirk Cousins' history shows that he buys in. Kirk Cousins' history shows
Starting point is 00:13:47 that he's not going to cause any problems. There's a difference in Aaron Rodgers as great as he is. Even with the accolades. I'm just saying, Ocho. I'm just putting that out there. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I like it. I like it. But if I'm J.J. McCarthy, I'm like, bro, nah. Because here's the thing, Ocho. Right. He's since another year. Now, y'all talking about, because I'm going after that third year. What do quarterbacks normally get after that third year, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:14:19 if they play decent? Oh, they get that bag, boy. Thank you. Yeah, they get that bag. Now Minnesota going to be tripping and say, well, we only saw you one year. Well, that ain't my fault. I ain't got nothing to do with that. Run me, me.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You're right. So, look, and the thing is, like, he's waiting, waiting. Look, at some point in time, John Steele, y'all need to make a decision. Yeah. You can't be held hostage because he did that for Green Bay for a number of years. Yes. And then Green Bay got tired.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Green Bay had quarterbacks, and they held them hostage for an extended period of time until Green Bay said later, we're going to take our organization back. We're going to take our organization back. Basically, that's what they said. Right. I don't know what you're... Steelers and Giants are rating on Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Russell Wilson, probably waiting on the... What would you do? You're the guy, okay? You're the general manager for the Giants, Steelers, Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What is Ocho doing? That's a good one. Let me put my GM hat on. What it on? Let me act like I'm Mike what's his name? Mike Tannenbaum I'm not giving Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 00:15:59 no time to even think about what he want to do you know where I'm going to go? where? do you want to do you know where i'm gonna go where i'm going to get russell wills i'm going to get kirk cousins because i know what i get with them individuals i understand i'm getting team players that are not going to cause me any issues and no problems understanding that in the draft i'm probably going to get quarterbacks that I'm hoping are the quarterbacks of the future for my franchise. Gotcha. And that's probably what I'm going to do. Guys that are going to be all in.
Starting point is 00:16:37 High character guys. Family men. Both married. Yeah, I'm not waiting on a guy going into year 21. 41, 42 years. I'm not waiting on that. Tom Brady, I'll wait. His track record speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It is. I ain't waiting on nobody else. You coming? Right. Okay, fine. All right. Now we got gotta look okay let's let's try to construct the contract that russ is amenable to yeah what about russ in minnesota i like that i like the sound of that because i'll be could you see cousins going back to minnesota I like that. I like the sound of that.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Could you see Cousins going back to Minnesota? Nah. That's a possibility. He knows the system. Had some great years there. I had this conversation with you, Ocho. had some great years there. Mm-hmm. I just, I mean, for the Falcons, I had this conversation with you, Ocho. I said, Ocho, the best case scenario, I'm talking about the absolute best case scenario,
Starting point is 00:17:53 you get two years. Because the first two years of Cousins' contract is $100 million, you get it, and then you move on. But, Ocho, let's just face it for the sake of argument, and that's what we do occasionally. We argue. Right. What happens if he only gives you a year?
Starting point is 00:18:11 He didn't even give you a year. He gave you about 12 games. Right. And now look. Unfortunate. His roster bonus came in. You had to pay him $12 million. You still owe him another $40 million.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Woo! Now what you going to do, Ojo? You're stuck. Now everybody know, why would I trade for him and take on that $40 million contract? Why can't I just wait for you to cut him and do the same thing what Pittsburgh did to Russ? I'll give you a minimum contract. Why can't I just wait for you to cut him and do the same thing what Pittsburgh did to Russ? I'll give you a minimum contract. Since Atlanta got a foot
Starting point is 00:18:52 of $40 million bill, that ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm not taking that contract. The same thing with Cooper Cup. If somebody wants to give Cooper Cup $15 million a year, that's fine. I ain't trading for it. First of all, I got to give you draft compensation, and I've got to pick up that contract.
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Starting point is 00:23:56 annual spring game, instead of an inner squad scrimmage in the future. That's what I'm trying. That's what I'm trying to do right now to have it competitive playing against your own guys, kind of get monotonous and you really can't tell the levels of your guy. It's the same old, same old. Everybody kind of knows each other. Time said he wants to parent like the NFL
Starting point is 00:24:14 and have joint practice for a few days near the end of spring practice between two teams, between his team and LaFontaine, culminating with a game between the two teams as a spring game instead of a scrimmage. I think the public will be satisfied with that tremendously. I think it's a tremendous idea.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, I like it a lot. I like it a lot. It allows you to also gauge your players. It allows you to gauge your players on how much they've learned and how disciplined they are playing against another opponent. Because listen, you see each other over and over and over and over and over and over, spring practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, and you're familiar with the offense.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You know the plays. You know what's coming. Sometimes you cheat a little bit, especially defensively. They love cheating because they know what's coming based on formation, recognition, down and distance. But to play against a team that you don't know about, you don't know what's going on, similar to having the game plan for a team you plan on a Saturday,
Starting point is 00:25:08 it's different. It is. It's different. It absolutely is. You got to be honest. You got to play fair. But, Ocho, practice was harder than the game for me. Always.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And I look at it like this here. So let me get this right. A guy that's seen me every day,. A guy that see me every day. Uh-huh. That's going up against me every day. Three days a week. Training camp. Manning camp.
Starting point is 00:25:34 OTAs. He can't cover me. You think you're going to watch film for three days and bring your ass in there and shut me down? Absolutely not. Child, please. Get the fuck out of here. Child, please. Yeah, you out of here. Child, please. Yeah, you right.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'm cooking with Crisco. Man, please. I like that. I like that one. I like that one. That ain't happening. Yeah. You see me on tape
Starting point is 00:25:58 and you think you gonna come in and shut me down? Absolutely not. That ain't happening. Ocho, Twitter comparing Travis Hunter to Ocho. Scout D. To me?
Starting point is 00:26:08 His stylistic receiver comparison I haven't seen yet. Travis Hunter, 6'1", 185. Ocho Cinco, 6'1", 188. Twitchy, agile, smooth, playmaker. I like that, but I'm 6'3". I like that, though. I don't like how they did my height. I'm 6'3", and I was 205 when I played, but I like the comparison.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I like the comparison. Twitchy, he is very twitchy. He's very twitchy. He has great footwork, very athletic. He plays both sides of the ball like I do as well. Again, most of the people in the chat don't even understand. At Oregon State, I came in as a DB. The DB room was full, so they moved me to receiver.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Therefore, that's where my collegiate career started as a receiver. Same thing. Bengals drafted me as a receiver. I tried to go back to defensive back, and Dick LeBeau told me no. So that's where my NFL career started as a receiver. I'm truly a DB. So what I'm seeing in Travis Hunter is what I used to look like in high school. A lot of people ain't know that.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I played both sides of the ball. They say you ain't know that. Yeah. Yeah, that too. But I understand. Listen, I love the comparison. I love the comparison. I love the comparison. He's a phenomenal talent, boy.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And the one thing that Travis Hunter has that you need is not only confidence, but belief that I can do it. And with them two things there, anything is possible. Mm-hmm. Anything is possible. Yeah. Also, check this out. Balling backfires. Dude allegedly
Starting point is 00:27:48 purchased over $1 million worth of exotic animals to be transferred to Florida. And then got denied by customs and the CDC. As you can see on the screen, we got it on the screen, Ash? He brought one African lion male
Starting point is 00:28:04 $378,000. He brought one African lion female, $378,000. He brought one African lion female, $260,000. He purchased one Asian tiger female, $400,000. He purchased one adolescent black bear female, $150,000 for a grand total of $1,188,188 million 1,188,000 man who was who was fool i say my grandma always say the fool a fool and they money sells sell soon soon part ways and this is part of it now you know you can't have them you can't domesticate them animals you're not a part of no circus you probably don't have a license to have them animals anyway.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You don't have the permits. I don't even know what you need to have those kind of animals just randomly. If you're not part of the circus or they're not just, who knows? That's, that's my credit goal. His name is Miami credit goal. Exotic animals run me my bread back.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And, listen, dude, come on, man. You just wasted a million dollars. You know good and well. You know good and well them animals weren't getting through customs, man. Yeah. That's why they try to sneak that stuff. People be trying to sneak monkeys and snakes
Starting point is 00:29:24 and turtles and stuff that, you know, they know they're not supposed to have. How you going to sneak a lion and a bear way from... Come on, stop playing. Stop playing. I mean, when you got that kind of money, Ocho, and you don't give a F, you do crazy stuff like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you say, hey, Shannon, we got a couple of
Starting point is 00:29:49 mini goats, mini cattle. Yeah. Mini pigs. Yeah. What am I doing with a lion? A lion will take down a thousand pound Cape Buffalo. What a hundred pound, two hundred pound man going to do to a lion?
Starting point is 00:30:05 A tiger. Look what they take down. What you going to do with that? Even if you try to domesticate them, at some point, you know what comes back into play? Instinct. Instinct. It's predatory instincts. Instinct. Instinct never goes anywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It never goes. I don't care how much you feed them. I don't care how much you pet them. I don't care how much you pet them. I don't care how much love you show. With something like that, wild animal? Man, please. I don't know. Look, I've been up close.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I've been to the zoo, but I've been closer than that to a zoo. I went to see a friend, Roy. Rest his soul. Yeah. And I was sitting on the end. I took my mom. I took my brother, my sister, my pops.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. My brother's wife. Ocho, during the show, Sixer and Roy, the animals, before they start the show, come down the aisle. All the white tigers and lions they got, Ocho. They are huge. Yes. And tigers are bigger than lions. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But I can just stick my I can stick my hands out and touch them if I wanted to. But that ain't what I did. I sawed on my hands to make sure. My hands didn't get twitchy. And after we did that, it was like a month later, Montecore,
Starting point is 00:31:20 which was their prize lion, he attacked Roy. Roy. Damn. See what I mean? Oh, nah. I don't want no big head. 400, a lion probably weigh about, I can't, just imagine a cat weighing like 300, 400 pounds.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah, I don't know. Tigers weigh like 500s. The funny thing about it, we just talk about, you know, being twitchy. Do you understand how quick and fast and agile just having a domesticated, just regular cat is?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Now add that times 20 with a damn lion. Look what a lion can take down. Lion can take down a Cape Buffalo a cape buffalo a elon a zebra i ain't got time wildebeest y'all can have that all of it oh joe most americans spend their paychecks before money hits the bank account a new survey finds that the average American mentally spends over half of their paycheck before it even arrives.
Starting point is 00:32:28 The survey of 2,000 workers earning under $75,000 revealed 59% pre-planned expenses with 51% of their pay already allocated. Overdue bills, 38%. Mismatched living costs, 44%. Contributed to the trend.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Rent or mortgage, 56%. Necessities, 51%. And utilities, 38%. Take priority once the paycheck arrives. The study also finds that 43% of a paycheck is spent within the first three days of receiving it. Yeah, it happens. Listen, and it's just not our people. It's just not our people.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That is an ongoing thing that's been going on for a very long time. And some people will say, well, we have no choice. We have no choice because we don't make enough. So therefore, we have to overthink and overspend before we even get our check. That's why it's gone. When people get their check, most of it's going to bills right away yeah and so you write you right back in the hole working again just to pay for the next cycle of bills of saying yeah and once you get behind ain't no catching up boys his hair to catch up okay there ain't no catching up yeah yeah I just read,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I read a study that said people that's making $200,000 a year feel they're living paycheck to paycheck. So what if somebody making $200,000 feel they're living
Starting point is 00:33:55 paycheck to paycheck? What the hell you think somebody that's making $75,000? Right. Yeah, I could imagine. I could imagine. And listen,
Starting point is 00:34:02 there's only, there's only, there's only so many, so much downside that you can do. You can only be a minimalist to a certain extent. You know, you still have to be able to live comfortably. You're surviving. You're not living.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, you're surviving. You're surviving. Yeah. There's a difference between the two. Trust me, as someone that survived. Right. On minimum survived. Right. On minimum money. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. And you know, hey, well, I'll pay this this month. Well, okay, I'll pay that next month. Hope they don't cut that. Hey, damn, you come on and flip the lights. Right. They got us. You come home, ain't no gas.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Right. Woo-hoo. Come home, ain't no gas. Right. Woo-hoo. Come home, phone. Damn. So, hey, I know what it's like. Yeah. All right, though, Joe, it's time
Starting point is 00:34:59 for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Damn, I feel good tonight, boy. Damn. Ain't them Nats be working, boy. LeCedric G is their college football game with more talent than the 2019 LSU-Bama game.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Joe Burrow, number one overall. Chase, top five pick. Jetta, first-round pick. Stingley, top five. I think Stingley was a top five pick, wasn't he? Top ten pick. Tua, top five pick. Stingley, top five. I think Stingley was a top-five pick, wasn't he? Top-ten pick. Tua, top-five pick. Waddle, top-five pick. Ruggs, top-fifteen pick.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Devontae, top-ten pick. Judy, top-fifteen pick. Make a Fitzpatrick. Najee Harris. Hmm. They had some talent out there. Not to mention the offensive line no joke also uh on that uh was Clyde Edwards-Alaire he was a running back they were loaded super super duper loaded uh Patrick Queen if I'm not mistaken, was the linebacker.
Starting point is 00:36:07 They had some talent out there. King Payne said, What offseason draft moves do the Ravens need to make to win this year? We have 11 picks in the draft, and the draft two are in the fourth round, and four in the, okay, two are in the fourth round, four in the sixth round. Should we trade up for Travis? You ain't getting Travis.
Starting point is 00:36:26 They're not mortgaging all that. Trade for a vet DB. Love. What you think? What do the Ravens need to do, Ocho? They got 11 picks in the draft. Two in the fourth and four in the sixth round. Listen, I'm not about improving the Ravens at all,
Starting point is 00:36:42 but just for conversational purposes, what could the Ravens at all, but just for conversational purposes, what could the Ravens do? Just be consistent. Listen, they got Kyle Hamilton. We need that Ravens team, Ocho, that Lamar Jackson looks ungodly in the regular season.
Starting point is 00:37:00 We just need that guy to show up one time in a championship game. Yeah, yeah. That's game. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Tell me the time, Chad. And I love Baltimore. Braving y'all showed up.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Tell me the time in the championship game that he showed up. Because think about it. He only had what? He had less than five turnovers. He had less than five interceptions. All season.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah. All season long. So he just needs to be Lamar Jackson, that guy that can go into the phone booth, he goes in as Clark Kent, and comes out as Superman. Every time. They just need to have that guy
Starting point is 00:37:34 where it matters the most. That's it. They don't need, look, they win these games, that mean they win 12 games, they be number one seed. They just need him to be that. That's it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, obviously you're going to try to improve just needed to be there. That's it. Yeah, obviously you're going to try to improve. Maybe you get some depth at wide receiver. I see they lost one of their DBs, so you're probably going to have to bring a DB in. Two of their safeties, if I'm not mistaken, moved on. So yeah, obviously. But this comes down to Lamar.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah. Lamar just, Lamar needs to be that superhero that we see in weeks 1 through 18. That's what he needs to be. That's it. King Govon. Ocho, the only thing Cincinnati running is putting chili in their spaghetti. I like to tell my family who live there, let that Super Bowl run go.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Y'all haven't done nothing since. Bear down. Listen, I love you. I love you. Listen, I'm happy that you're a Raven supporter. Other than that, this is the new year. This is the new year, and you're probably living off the past, which you're a prisoner of the moment.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm telling you ahead of time, and I'm really wrong, especially when it comes to football, in knowing how the season will go. I have the script. I shouldn't even be saying this, but I got the script. You got the script? Yeah, I got the script. And I'm telling you, the AFC North is coming through Cincinnati, all right?
Starting point is 00:39:01 Now, if you in Baltimore, I'll come and sit with you at MNT Bank Stadium and watch the game. When we play the Bengals. OK. And I sit there with you and help you warm up your last pause. Chris Curry, Bengals history equal paying five hundred and twenty million for three guys with no defense in sight. Go Ravens. Hey, we got a defense, okay? And you're going to see it this year. Every team has to have an identity, okay? Our
Starting point is 00:39:33 identity is on offense. And we'll do what we need to do defensively. We got a new defensive coordinator in, okay? This ain't what you did. This ain't last year. This ain't 2024 this ain't what you did. This ain't, this ain't last year. This ain't 2024. So you get it together.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Now, all you Raven fan that's mouthing off tonight. What you don't want to do is piss me off. Cause if I get pissed off, it ain't going to be pretty. What the hell you go through? Kareem Abdul. He can have a heart.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He can have a heart. A tarp. My name is Sharp. Liggett and five. Rashad Hunter. Moderating nightcap while sitting on his lap. I drink water from a tap. Liggett and five.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Dr. Frankie Alabama. Knick-knack. Patty whack. to five. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Knick-knack, paddywhack, onz cognac. Ligga to five. Nate B. Roll sparks, bubble sparks, ring the doorbell, I just gonna bark. Ligga to five.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Vivian Ekumay. I just got my nat-cap beanie and it's soft and warm and beautiful. Thank you, Vivian,umen I just got my NACAB beanie and it's soft and warm and beautiful thank you Vivian for your support Sarah P oh
Starting point is 00:40:50 what's your favorite who's your favorite uh uh Zeke Piston highlight Ocho what's your favorite
Starting point is 00:40:57 uh Megatron highlight man ooh what's that when Zeke was coming up what was it was he coming up
Starting point is 00:41:04 before we saw Kyrie and Rod Strickland, nobody could handle a ball like Zeke. Because Zeke could pat that thing, too. I mean, Zeke be coming out there sitting that thing, had his leg just da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Man, people don't realize how good Isaiah Thomas was. People don't realize that. Led Indiana to the national championship as a sophomore
Starting point is 00:41:25 in 81, goes into the NBA, boom. Puts it at work. Zeke, man, I love Zeke. As a matter of fact, I called Zeke the other day. He gonna come on. Yeah? Yeah. We gonna get Zeke to come on when he play with the playoffs start.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Because I gotta save him. I got to save my favorite. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.
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Starting point is 00:42:57 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:43:59 In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra,
Starting point is 00:44:33 you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly
Starting point is 00:45:09 and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster,
Starting point is 00:45:41 John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Listen to Ali and me now on Audible. Hey, my favorite, my favorite, I think, was it the Bengals? No, it was, yeah, when he called, we jumped over three people and called that touchdown. That was the Cowboys. No, he did on y'all, too. Don't put that on the Cowboys. Y'all, too. He went for 329 against the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He's special, boy. I thought he was going to get flipped that day because Flip got 339. 339, yeah. 15 for 339 against the Saints. I played with Flip, too. That was my guy. Flip, my guy. Hey, Brian Bowers said, Uncle, don't you love the show?
Starting point is 00:46:52 That being said, I need y'all to make a visit to my gym in New York. Bell Francis Powerhouse. And Sona said, I guess that's how they said it, the Mecca. We have signed photos of Unk on the wall. We got to get Ocho. I know Bev. I knew her ex, Steve. Steve and I just saw him at the Olympia.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Steve used to come down to Roadman in Atlanta, train with us. So I know Steve. I know a lot of the judges. I know most of the judges, not all of them. Jim, I know a lot of them.. I know most of the judges, not all of them. Jim, JM, I know a lot of them because I used to be
Starting point is 00:47:28 thinking about it. I used to go to all the shows. You know, they always took care of me. You know, surprised that I would show up. I'd be backstage talking to the guys.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's how I met Ronnie. Ronnie, Chris Cormier, Flex, Sean Ray, Nasser, Paul, Rich Jaspari, you know, all those guys.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Lee Priest. Ballot, go, seven, eight, seven, up. Look like a ball, Flava Flav. Damn, Ocho. What are you talking about, me? Yeah. I mean, I look like a ball, Flava Flav? What? Are they trying to say which a ball of Flavin' Flav? What?
Starting point is 00:48:05 What? Listen, are they trying to say, which one we looking like Flavin' Flav? I mean, what are you trying to say? What are you trying to insinuate? What are you getting at? Nah, my boy don't let no Flavin' Flav. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Dude, he really act like that. I'm a 2007 to 60s man alive, so I'm trying to understand what you trying to get at. You know? Yeah. Stop playing. Connor with a K. Hey, Uncle Ocho loved the show.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Y'all get me through the workday. As a Viking fan, I was wondering if you guys had any John Randall story. I don't think nobody talked more than Johnny. Gee. That joke didn't shut up, Ocho. Yeah, he was a trip, boy. John was a trip. He was funny.
Starting point is 00:48:42 He was funny and dead serious at the same time. Dead. Dead serious. I mean, undersized, undrafted free agent. Yeah. Got it out of the mud. Mm-hmm. Got it out of the mud.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Hey, he had a very, very similar upbringing is what we had. Go look at his story. Yeah. And see how they grew up. J213 said, Hey, Uncle Ocho, hope you guys bless for your Mount Rushmore for people or for athletes who in their career potentially
Starting point is 00:49:16 robbed by injury. Sterling and Gray Hill got to be on there. Who you got, Ocho? Bo Jackson. Bo Jackson is one of them. Peter Warrick. Peter Warrick, knee injury to me still. And I will die on this hill the greatest collegiate receiver of all time.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I know Randy Moss was good. I understand what he did. I know what Larry Fitzgerald did. I understand that. Crabtree. I understand what Crabtree did. He went to Bolitnikoff. Yeah, I understandgerald did. I understand that. Crabtree. I understand what Crabtree did. The only man to win two Blitnikoff.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah, I understand what he did. What's my young boy from West Virginia name? The real deal. Tavon Austin. Hey, Tavon Austin probably got the greatest highlight tape of all time.
Starting point is 00:49:56 High school and college. But something about Peter M.F. Warwick. Peter. If you watch the film, you'll understand. You'll understand, man'll understand man Reggie Bush was exciting
Starting point is 00:50:11 but Reggie Bush is easy for a running back to get you know you hand the ball off to him and he does what he does it's different when you got somebody that's like Reggie Bush at the receiver position where when the ball is coming his way, you hold your breath. Because you don't know
Starting point is 00:50:27 what the hell is going to happen. True. Man, you had to be there. I would put Bo Jackson. I would put Brandon Roy. Obviously, I'm putting my brother. Grant Hill.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Because, man, before Grant had that ankle injury. He was nasty, boy. He was nasty. And then Felaaz. Yeah. Maybe Felaaz. Kareem Abdul said, was Richard Basil Sheldon's best quarterback? Man, I wish I had Basil.
Starting point is 00:51:06 If I'd have had Basil, if I'd have had Basil my sophomore year, well, look, I had him for two years. The thing was that Coach Davis, our coach, rest his soul, Coach, is that we got a lead, Coach, we take you out of the game. So there was a game, My senior year, Ocho, I had six catches for a book, 50 in the first quarter, and didn't play no more. Damn. But Coach said, and I said, Coach, come on, Coach.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I said, Coach, I'm trying to, you know, I want the scouts to see what I can do. He said, son, if I put you back in the game and you get hurt, I'll never forgive myself. Okay, I understand. I understand that from that standpoint. I wouldn't understand it because I'm trying... If I got one-fifth
Starting point is 00:51:48 in the first quarter, how many am I going for, Ocho? One-fifth and two tubs. At least three. Yes. Oh, who that? Who that? Somebody said...
Starting point is 00:51:59 Who that? Grant Hill. Penny Hardaway. And what happened to Penny? Man, Penny knees gave out on him. Penny Hardaway. And what happened to Penny? Man, Penny knees gave out on him. Ah. Yeah, Penny was like that. Chris said, what's linebacker safety covering you the best
Starting point is 00:52:15 and what corner for you, Ocho? Also, Nick Chubb broke his foot too late last season in a game. Do y'all think he can still make an impact? Safety linebacker. Wasn't no linebacker. Mm-hmm. The person that covered me the best was Albert Lewis.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Albert Lewis made me, forced me to become a Hall of Fame player because I wanted to beat that joker so bad he was in Kansas City. Yeah. He was in Kansas City
Starting point is 00:52:37 and then he went to the Raiders. So I had to deal with that joker twice a year. And I felt if I could beat him, I could beat anybody. Anybody, yes, sir. Who was it for you, Ocho? For me, obviously, I can beat anybody. Anybody, yes sir. Who was it for you, Ocho? For me, obviously
Starting point is 00:52:47 it was Revis. Yeah, that 2009 season was remarkable by any DB. We probably would never see a DB have a season like that against Hall of Fame receivers and do what he did. I think he kept everybody under 50 yards, if I'm not mistaken. You think so?
Starting point is 00:53:04 He kept everybody under 50 yards, if I'm not mistaken. You think so? He kept everybody under 50 effing yards the entirety of the season. Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, myself, somebody else. You got to look at the list and what he's doing. And there's some other players that have had great games against me, obviously because they played in our division. Salute to Ike Taylor. Love the battles.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Boy, I love you, boy, I love you, boy, I ain't seen you in a minute, Lee Barton, I'm trying to think who else, you know, in the division, because we saw each other so often and so much, you know, they understood our tendencies, they knew my moves, they knew the game plan, so it's kind of different. But, you know, they gave me hell, man. Ike Taylor gave me hell, boy. Jesus Christ. And Lee Barton, they gave me hell. And that's, I mean, outside of that, when it came to playing outside of the
Starting point is 00:53:53 division, man, it wasn't. It was cookies. And I mean no disrespect. It was cookies. Tim's bid. BYD, I guess that's Tim's, the River Tim's. Hey, bid. BYD, I guess that's Tim's, the River Tim's. Hey, Okonoccio,
Starting point is 00:54:09 I want to give a shout-out to my baby girl, Leah. Leah, on her 10th birthday and let her know her dad loves her very much. Leah, your dad loves you very much. His name is Tim's. I think that's how you say it.
Starting point is 00:54:28 T-H-A-M-E-S, like the river. So we're going to go with that. So happy birthday, Leah. I guess that's why, you know, people got these funny spellings or the name. But happy 10th birthday. Hopefully you enjoyed your day. Hopefully your dad took you somewhere special, got some ice cream, got a new outfit.
Starting point is 00:54:49 But happy birthday. Thank you guys for supporting Nightcap, an Ocho edition. That concludes this edition of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or BoostMobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. I'm your favorite Hulk, Shannon Sharp. That's Ocho, the Bengal Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler, the All-Pro, the Liberty City Legend. As my co-host. Please make sure you hit that like button.
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Starting point is 00:56:13 Thoughts and prayers go up to Tracy Morgan. Hopefully everything turns out okay. He had an illness at Madison Square Garden. He was taken out in a wheelchair, taken to a local hospital for further evaluation. So our thoughts and prayers go up to him. Thank you guys for joining us again for Nightcap. I'm Unc. He's Ocho.
Starting point is 00:56:33 We'll see you on Wednesday. Hey, and before y'all leave, y'all give Jane Harrison messages for me. You're done, bucko. The volume. And then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
Starting point is 00:58:08 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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