Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Aikman rips Cowboys, Jerry Jones Meltdown, Kawhi out indefinitely

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson breakdown Troy Aikman’s comments ripping Dallas Cowboys WR CeeDee Lamb and the rest of the Cowboys receivers for a disappointing start to the season. Later, Unc and Ocho are in disbelief over Jerry Jones meltdown in an interview with a Dallas radio host, Kawhi Leonard out indefinitely for the Clippers and much more!03:18 - Troy Aikman disappointed in Cowboys season12:58 - Jerry Jones22:00 - Kirby Joseph on game plan for Cowboys27:27 - Justin Fields demotion for Russ Wilson31:17 - Kawhi Sidelined for start of season37:34 - LeBron preseason over41:14 - Q and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Troy Aikman did not hold back when addressing the disappointment of the start of the Cowboys season. He took dead aim at C.D. Lamb and the other Dallas wide receivers. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Through the first six games. I think the routes are terrible.

I think they run terrible routes. And I've always thought that beyond this year. I think C.D.'s got to improve in his route running. And as a quarterback, if you're not certain where the guys are going to be consistently, it's hard to play that position. I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run. Usually if they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football on that

play. But if they're not, they don't. And it all ties together. So I'm not impressed with that part of the game. Troy also talked about CD missing many counts. I'm an old school guy. I just believe practice matters so do i i believe that having the team together matters so do i so if i knew i was going

to be signing him anyway i would have had to sign so he'd be working out with my quarterback and doing things that they should be doing ocho you see this is what i like och. I like when Troy, see, I like when white quarterbacks say that because they don't get labored as haters or jealous. See, when you and I say that, if I would have said the exact same thing, oh, you're a hater. You're jealous. You're bringing the black man down. Now, what you're going to say

about Troy? I'm listening. Jump in the comments. What you'all gonna say about Troy? What y'all gonna say about Troy? He jealous? He a hater? He envious? Because that's what y'all do. When Blacks, we try to offer critique, but what we see haven't played the game. Y'all kill us.

Y'all beat us up. Now, what y'all gonna say about Troy? Troy, don't you? But CD was never... Oh, Joe, I never looked at CD as a route runner. CD is a guy that's tremendous run after the catch. Right. He's not a route runner.

He's not technically sound like Jetta. He's not technically sound like Devontae. He's not a route runner. He's not like Torrey Holt. He's not like Makino Mercado. He's not like Jimmy Smith. He's not like you, Ocho. That's not what he is.

Yeah. And that's okay. But what I do agree with, Troy, is that, bro, even when you not get the ball, you got to bust your butt off the ball. You got to come off. Yeah. I don't like the fact him singling out CD, him singling out that. I mean, I hear a lot of CD this, CD that, CD, CD. But hell, the goddamn defense is atrocious.

The defense ain't much better. The defense is atrocious. And then everything is magnified now. Everything is magnified now because you're losing. So now when you're losing, everything is magnified. So now they nitpick at every little goddamn thing. But you know that going in. Ocho, what's going to

happen? You start to lose. They say you lose because you sat on your helmet. You start to lose because the locker room dirty. All type of stuff. I told them.

Jared talked about we don't need him at practice. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. You see how dumb that sound? Now, you know you're

going to sign him or we going to get him. We knew we were going to sign him. Why would you? What do you mean he doesn't get anything at practice? Do you see the connection or the non-connection that he and Dak

has had for the first six games? The Wi-Fi is off a little bit. The Wi-Fi is off a little bit. You get that... No matter what y'all did the previous year, you have to get in the lab. You got to get in the lab you got to get in the lab and rebuild that chemistry

all up again you got to unplug your router plug it back in and restart every season you got to do it and you can't do it in the off season when you're just by yourself construction environment

where people put in and tug it and push it on you. That's when you get it done. That's why. And if you knew you was going to sign him, why wait? Why play the game? You did the same thing

with goddamn Zeke. You did the same thing with Zeke. Are you serious about winning that you need all your players together? You need them all together. When it counts and when it matters mini camp training camp all season workouts come on man but but here's the thing though

uh um ocho is that we know troy troy got mike's ass yeah he expected he demanded excellence from mike right so this is not but i just believe you got the whole guys accountable. It is an absolute must. Yes, sir. Now, I'm not telling you what somebody told you, told me to say. I'm telling you, having been in situations, the standard is the standard. And we don't change that standard because of who you are. We play to the standard.

And whatever happens after that, we live with it. But we're not going to come here, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. When we hit that field, we had an expectation.

I don't know how everybody else did it, but when we hit that field in Denver, expectation. Yes, sir. I don't know how everybody else did it, but when we hit that field in Denver. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, y'all was a well oil machine,

but. Y'all was a well oil machine. Well, there was an expectation that we had. Right. We played to a standard.

We know what was expect. We knew what was expected of us. Right. From each and every one of us. John had to play to, we had a standard here, but John needed to play to his standard. Right.

84 needed to play to his standard. So did 30. So did 87 and 80. Everybody played to the standard. And then whatever happens after his standard. So did 30. So did 87 and 80. Everybody played to the standard. And then whatever happens after that, we live with it.

But it wasn't... People think you get good in the games. You win the games Monday through Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Everything is tied together.

Anybody that tells you that it's is not don't play the game and they've never played the game that's when you win the game is what you do in the meetings how attentive are you in practice yeah i know practice yeah i need you need it i just i just I just don't get these guys I just don't get I just don't get them we talk about Troy talk about CD talk about Dak and um have you seen the goddamn schedule for the Cowboys the next three games

hell the next five in a row yeah absolutely it can get ugly it can get real ugly i'm not sure what them i'm not sure when the marcus lawrence comes back i'm not sure how long he's out i'm not sure how long michael parsons is out but um it can get ugly real fast yes for a team that's been 12 and five the past three seasons well michael's missed what michael's missed the game he's missed the game so they're on a

bye week so three weeks it all depends on how bad that high ankle sprain is right for him to come back I don't know D-Law's injury I don't know his injury so I don't want to speak to like he's gonna be out another week or he's gonna come back so I really don't know but I know Michael has a high ankle sprain and I think by the time he by the time uh the vibe's over it'll be three weeks so is it a four to six weeks is it you know do they if I'm him are you going to try to now look they're struggling

you try to get your best players back as soon as possible yeah but just know my numbers dip. You know, I came back and I wasn't really healthy. Right.

Well, they can't, they won't be able to use that against him though. I mean, they can, but I doubt they would. He's the type of, he's one of those.

Yeah. He's one of them players. You really can't play with like that. You can't, you can't play with him like that. Shit. I could, I could have had him back

I could have had Michael Parsons back right after about two days after he sprained his ankle the high ankle sprain with my remedy but don't nobody listen to me hell I could have healed Kawhi Leonard you know he wouldn't miss no damn time I got something for his knee

I got something for his knee. Ocho. No, no, Ocho. I got something for him. No. Ocho, you ain't got nothing for Kawhi. I'm trusting him. He bone on bone, Ocho. Huh? He bone on bone. Listen, I know how to put a little tendon up in there.

Or I can oil it up a little bit. If you could, there'd be a lot of career. Brandon Roy would want to see you like 10 years ago. I tell you no lie. When that thing like this in Ocho, he might have a knee replacement before the time he 40. Hey, I had that thing looking like WD40 in there. It'd be like he brand new.

I mean, Ocho, he didn't finish the season last year'd be like he brand new. He wouldn't know what he is. He didn't finish the season last year. He's starting the season. He allowed indefinitely. He hadn't played a full season in a long... He got hurt. What was that? The only time he... Well, that was half a season

because remember in the bubble. Right, right. Remember, they went on a three, four, five-month hiatus. Mm-hmm. And then he... But after that, Ocho, he got hurt in the playoffs and Right, right. Remember, they went on a three, four, five-month hiatus. Mm-hmm. And then he finished. But after that, Ocho, he got hurt in the playoffs, and he hadn't been yet. And even on load management, he's still not able to play, Ocho.

Mm-hmm. Huh? We're going to get that later. We got to get back to Jerry. While attending the NFL meetings in Atlanta, Jerry explained to the Athletics' Diana Rossini why he reacted the way he did on 105.3. Uh-oh.

I don't know. I don't know that I would go as far as calling it the volume connotation as yelling. Okay. But the facts are, if I'm going to be grilled by the tribunal, I don't need to be by the guys that I'm paying.

Oh, so he came't fire him, huh? If you pay somebody a salary, can you fire them, Ocho? Yes, sir. So let me repeat that because a lot of times people are like, well, but the facts are that if I'm going to be grilled by the tribunal, I don't need it to be by guys that I'm paying. I can take it from the fans. I can take it from other people.

I take a lot of pride in how fair and how much I try to work with the media. We're brothers and sisters. But I was a little frustrated there that day. Little? Okay. We got in there as of accounting or decision made in the offseason. Okay, that might be as well going back to the decision I made in 2010. My point is that that's from my perspective.

There's no question. I'm sure that they would have liked to have me grill like fans are thinking. What are you going to do about this? And what are you going to do about that? I get it. I get all of that. And I really will go along with it no you wouldn't jerry jerry went on to explain how his frustration stemmed from the individual

asking the questions not necessarily the topic itself the wrong ones were doing the questioning now those had been real fans sitting there and they've been people that i that i knew they would have been talking about football people. I might have a different answer. Hey, listen. There's a good chance that guy might not be working there. If I was a dude, I would have left.

You need that job, man. Huh? That man need that job. And that man can get another radio job somewhere in Dallas. Trust me, he can. Let me ask you a question. So you think you can walk out on a job that Jerry Jones, and you're going to go get another job?

Before you answer that, I want you to think long and hard. I hear what you're talking about. I think just based on circumstance, and other radio stations know what happened, man, they'll hire that boy. Jerry wants some fucking yes men because he paying them.

That's all it is. He wants some, yeah, he want, I want yes. If I'm paying you, make sure you don't ask me the tough questions and make sure you're on my side at all times. A bunch of yes men. I would do the same about this. It's like dudes with an entourage.

Yeah. You know the dude, you know the golden goose who making the money. You never want to tell him, you know the golden goose who making the money. You never want to tell him, you know what, that ain't a good idea, boy. You know what, you shouldn't be doing that. You know what, you was drinking. Give me your keys, let me drive. But you don't want to say nothing because you don't want to get your check cut off.

You don't want your phone to get cut off. Hold on, man. In Dallas? Yeah. In Dallas. Tell him to hire me. In Dallas. If Jerry Jones goes to any,

anything, it says, don't hire him. That guy's not getting hired. Okay. I see what you're saying. The Cowboys, the Cowboys are Dallas. Oh,

Joe, the man tried to get Roger Goodell yeah what the hell you think you gonna do

to a guy making a hundred to between a hundred thousand and four hundred thousand dollars yeah I got you I got you

that's what Ocho yeah power but listen it reveals who a person truly is it reveals who a person truly is it reveals who a person truly is

you got that kind of money you gonna flex your power you gonna flex your muscles you wanna be attached you wanna be attached to the cowboys Ocho you wanna be attached you wanna be the

flagship station I hear you you wanna be able to you wanna be able to talk to Jerry at what cost at what cost You want to be able to talk to Jerry? At what cost? At what cost?

At what cost? You can't even look yourself in the goddamn mirror and really be yourself. You really can't ask the questions you need to ask. You can't ask the questions that the people that's listening to the radio station want you to ask. Because you got to pay in a piece to the man paying you the money. Right in the ask because you got to pay in a piece to the man paying you the money right in the check yeah got me got me fucked up yeah tell him how i meet i

ask him the questions no you won't because we're just not starting to get you to do the right thing by nightcap i know you ain't effing with jerry yeah i'm yeah yeah i'm asking. I'm asking. No, you're not. Then, see, you have to be careful. That's why I say let me have a bit. You got to be careful. NFL run everything, bro. Yeah. Oh, listen. I got the main man on speed there.

I'm good. Just between you and I? Yeah. The most powerful man in the NFL? Yeah. He lives in Dallas. I'm just going to throw that out there for you, okay? Okay, okay.

I don't like the way you're trying to scare me because you know what? I ain't trying to scare you, but you know I will keep it factual with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's him. Yeah. Steven Johnson,

so I had to make sure he got something to say this week, when asked if he sees any significant coaching or personnel changes during the bye week, he said, no, I don't. We got the right kind of guys on the coaching staff, and I think we have the right kind of players. I feel like we got the right group here. I don't necessarily know that raising hell is the answer here. So ain't no changes.

Right. Ain't no changes. Yeah. Ain't no changes. Yeah. Okay. Shoot, I don't see it. What changes they gonna make right now anyway? Ain't really,

where you gonna go? I mean, if you're gonna make changes, there has to be a direction in which you're going to go. And when you make the change, what coach you gonna go get? What players can you go get? No, I don't think, I don't think,

I don't think Jerry would make a coaching change in season. Right. Because Zim is on the staff. Yeah. Zim defense getting trounced. So how do you promote him? Ryan Schottenheimer has never been a head coach. His offense is not like they're lighting it up.

So if I were to remove mike mccarthy from his duties where am i going with this ultra right right i got you i got you so but you know look that's what power does i mean power has you moving and thinking oh you asked me that question oh get him up off of there he gonna gonna talk about, it was the guy. The guy that's asked you millions of questions before. Yes, he was upset because he getting the doors, but he getting, hey, they breaking it off up in him.

They breaking it off up in the guy. They breaking it off up in him and there's nothing he can do. Ocho, it's one thing if you lose about a field goal here or something. Ocho, they getting blown out of the building. They're getting trounced. Their building.

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worried about anyone else. Told you that. Ain't worried about nobody else. Nobody else can beat me. There's nobody else on the Cowboys roster running back, wide receiver, or tight end other than CeeDee that can beat me. I'm going to double his ass as much as possible because

guess what I'm going to do? What I'm going to try to do, Ocho, is I'm going to try to limit his catches early because I'm going to get in his head. Yeah. And then he's going to get frustrated. And then when that comes to him like he did early, he's going to drop it. I ain't got to worry about it no more. I ain't worried. I'm definitely

not worried about any of them other receivers or running backs. I ain't worried. I'm definitely not worried about any of them other receivers or running backs. I ain't worried about none of them. Hey, what about D-Hop to the Cowboys? You don't like that? No. This man would not. Ocho. I'm trying to think.

When was the last time? The last time I think the Cowboys made an in-season trade right they sunk they traded for the singing cowboy Roy Williams they gave up two number ones that's what kind of scared Jerry away from doing trades and free agency because remember they trade remember they gave up two number ones for Joey Galloway they gave up two number ones for Roy Williams and it didn't work out for him. So it kind of scared Jerry away. From doing it? Okay, okay. I got you. I mean, he had success early. He traded for Charles Haley.

He traded for Prime. And it worked out. But lately, his trades haven't been very good. Now, I think Amari Cooper, they got where they at. What they paid. I mean, I think Amari was a good trade for him. Yeah.

But that's not how Jerry operates. Well. I like look, I like DeHop to the Chiefs. Yeah, I like that one too. That was my first option

but listen to what dude said on the podcast. I mean, well, hell. that's a blatant i'm not saying it's disrespectful it's just the landscape of the the cowboys offense there is no other viable threat that poses a threat outside of cd lamb and we're going into a game saying hell we stop 88 we ain't got to worry about nobody else because there is no run game? Come on, man. What is this about the other players? That ain't my fault.

It is what it is. I'm just telling you what our game plan was. We went into the game saying we're going to take CD away because we don't believe the other receivers can beat us. Right. I mean, there's been defensive guys, okay? We're going to slide the protection. We don't believe they have another player

on the defensive side of football that can generate a pass rush. We're going to slide the protection. We don't believe they have another player on the defensive side of football that can generate a pass rush. We're going to stop X. Right. That's it. Okay? And if somebody else can consistently beat one-on-ones, okay, we got to live with that, Ojo. But I tell you what, your best

player is not going to beat us. Right. Well, I hope the Cowboys' offensive players, especially at the receiver position, I hope they heard that. I hope they Cowboys offensive players, especially at the receiver position, I hope they heard that. I hope they heard that. Ojo. Yes, sir. That's just like somebody,

a girl saying, you short. I heard it. Don't mean I'm going to grow to be six foot five. Just got to hurt. Don't mean all of a sudden they're going to be good.

You are what you are, Ojo. That's bulleted ball material. That might be sudden, they're going to be good. You are what you are, Ocho. That's bulletin board material. That might be the motivating factor to change their season around. Write it down. The two and the three step up. Give them your opinion so they can write it down. Hell, take a picture of it. So, in other words, defense will say y'all suck.

Outside of CD, y'all suck. That's what they're saying. Hey, they know what they need to do. You got a bad week, you got a weak. Wait, who they think that they got the Eagles, right? No. The 49ers. We got the 49ers, the Commanders,

the Eagles. Oh my God. Oh, they got a gauntlet. The next five games is a gauntlet. Hey, that's nasty. Oh, they got the gauntlet. The next five games is a gauntlet. Hey, that's nasty. Oh, they got the Niners, Falcons, Eagles, Texans, and the Commanders. Start with the 49ers. Then the Falcons. Boy.

I don't know what you want me to tell you, Ocho. Hey, listen. I mean, I'm just speaking for me. I'm not... I'm not sure if they're wired mentally like me, but being able to hear something like that to me would be motivating. Oh, that's what you think?

Oh, that's how you feel about us? No. Okay, bet. Oh, Joe, would you look at it from your point of view, but you're the starter? Right. Because if they were like that, guess what? They would be the feature. There's a reason you're the B-side, bro.

Come on, bro. Ain't nobody come to see you oldest. Look at man. Play the tambourine and then hit that chorus, okay? That's what I need you to do. You ain't got no acapella. You ain't got no solo parts of this. That's me, Mike. That's a good one.

That's a good one. Justin Fields' potential demotion in favor russell wilson comes as a surprise to most everyone except fields pittsburgh has given russell wilson first team reps as he gears up for the possibility of his first start as a stealer field was brutally honest hold on uh feels with brutally honest and is a self-assessment thursday when speaking to reporters i don't think i played good enough. If I'm being real with you, if I'm being real with myself, I think I could have played.

I don't, I think if I did play well enough, I don't think there would be any sort of who should be playing, but who should not. Oh, Joe. Yeah. What you got?

Another PC answer, obviously from the quarterback and you expect him to say some of the things he did say. He said everything a quarterback is supposed to say some of the things he did say. He said everything a quarterback is supposed to say in his position. He played well. He started off 3-2. Your team is 4-2. You played exceptionally well. Now there's a chance

you could have been 6-0, but you're not. You're above 500. It's okay. Mike Tarlin needs to be very careful here, Ocho but you need to be very very careful here it's too late now it's too late because I said it I said it from the start Russell Wilson it would be his job to lose but he got hurt he had a calf injury now he's healthy

so now you put you put the person back in who was going to be the starter at the beginning of the season regardless, and you let him play ball. All I'm going to say is this. And it's his job to lose still. I'm going to say this. Yes, sir. He better beat the Jets. He better win against the Jets.

Right. That's all I'm going to say. Hey, the Jets ain't no slouch now. I know the record don't show what it should show. I also know that those guys that have been playing, that's been on the offense and defense. Fighting for fields. Right.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I know you're going with it. I know exactly what you're going with it. The question is, and we didn't see enough, but when people say you can't, yes, you can. Mike Shanahan told us, look, you can lose your job if you get injured. If you get injured and the guy comes in and he's playing better than you before you got injured, it's his job.

Now, we didn't see Russ play in the regular season, so we don't know what he looks like in meaningful play. But boy, Mike Tomlin, you need to be very careful with this situation because the powder keg. Yes, sir. It's a powder keg, Ocho.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm sure he had that talk with Russ. He pulled him aside. Listen, it's your job, but it's also your job to lose. I don't know how you go back to Justin Fields. I don't. At four and two, if things start getting dicey, well, Mike Tomlin will make a switch now.

Ocho, I don't know how you go back. You take the man out. You said, what's his record? 4-2. He's 4-2. He's 4-2. Yeah. You take him out.

You lose three games, and you put him back in? Yes, sir. The save of that season, listen, is the reason Mike Tomlin has had a winning season for the past 17 years. He going to make sure that continues. This is a business. No, just because you're not losing doesn't mean you're winning. Oh, that was a good one.

Hey, let's leave that alone. We're going to move on. No, no, no. You need to raise that. We're going to move on. Hey, that was a good one. Hey, let's leave that alone. We're going to move on. No, no, no. You need to raise that. We're going to move on. Hey, that was smooth. That was real smooth. Kawhi Leonard is expected to be sidelined for an indefinite period of time to start

the NBA season as he rehabilitates the inflammation in his right knee. Kevin O'Connor pointed out, the Western is so stacked there's a strong chance that now the Clippers miss the play which would give the Thunder a lottery pick which means the Thunder could end up with Cooper Flagg just saying

damn what I don't understand I need somebody and somebody chat maybe some basketball basketball aficionado given Kawhi's injury history why would you give him that deal and not Paul George oh that's it makes no sense

it makes no sense it makes no sense you can't convince me and I remember there were guys sense, Ocho. That's a good one. It makes no sense. You can't convince me. And I remember there were guys, I, Chet, y'all remember the first night? Kenny, this is you. Kenny Smith, on the first night

that the Lakers played Clippers, he said, Kawhi Leonard made LeBron James look unathletic. He was paid based off what he had done previously before getting to the Clippers. Kawhi Leonard has never been a better player than LeBron James. Oh, I didn't say that. I'm based on... Never.

I'm speaking on... You take Kawhi at his absolute apex. Right. And he's never been better than LeBron. Never. Who said he was? Kenny? No, no, no, no.

Kenny, no. I think the thing is, is that... Is that he was just... If you just look at one game, one game from our game, those are professionals. Anybody can make anybody look bad. But if you look at the totality of it, no. I mean, everybody talk about, do y'all understand?

I mean, y'all think about like what LeBron was doing. Kawhi goes to the Toronto Raptors and yeah, they won the title. I'm not so sure that would have happened if Cameron Durant didn't blow out his Achilles. We'll never know. That's neither here nor there. But do y'all remember how LeBron ran the East? Ran the East. Yeah.

Man, I just don't know. I don't know. Look, Lawrence Franks is a great general manager. I'm sure when you make a deal like this, you have to run it up to Steve Ballmer, the wealthiest owner in NBA, worth $125 billion. But ain't no way in hell. He worth more than Jerry? Man, if that man...

Look here. If that man had Jerry Jones money, you'd have to commit him to an asylum. Well, he still don't act like Jerry. Very fun, energetic, charismatic. Oh, yeah. he gets oh yeah they name I mean I gave him a name

to baby dinosaurs but they used to call it Lebronto that's what they call Toronto Lebronto because he ran Toronto

okay but ain't no way, Ocho. I'm not doing that. I'm not. Look, I get it. Right. Kawhi's not healthy. I wish it was something he could do for his knee.

There's nothing, Ocho. But the way technology is, the fact that they haven't been able to help and find a solution or something to do, even if it is bone on bone, as advanced as we've gotten to this point with medicine and doctors and treatments and all type of stuff, people going to Germany, all that, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. Well, right now, they haven't learned how to grow tendons and ligaments in a petri dish. Yeah, we know how to get to the goddamn moon, but we can't figure out how to get me started.

Well, maybe they need to send his ass to the moon. Maybe they got some stuff up there that you can come back down here and play. What don't y'all mean? I mean, think about it. Yes, sir. He's getting older. Yeah. You don't get healthy as you get get your joints don't get healthier as they get older right

well right now they lost that trade yeah cause they gave up Shea Gilgis and you look at the roster that the Thunder has put together with those draft picks nasty nah you think Shea Gilgis is better than me at basketball the Thunder has put together with those draft picks? Nasty. Hey, you think Segar is better than me at basketball?

Yeah. The Clippers signed Kawhi to a three-year, $153 million contract extension in January when they decided to bet a few months of sustained help would continue when literally years of evidence suggests otherwise. So he's making $53 million a year. Yeah. Oh, Joe.

This is a, you have a five-year sample size of Kawhi Leonard's knees failing him. That's not a one month. That's not a one month. That's not a six month. That's not a one or two year.

You have a five year sample size. And you gave him 51 million and you're trying to lowball Paul George. Damn, it's a dirty game. I mean, that makes it seem like it's a fluke. This is not a fluke injury, Ocho. This is not a bump in the road.

I mean, this is what it is. LeBron preseason is finished. The next time he takes the court will be the regular season opener, October 22nd versus the Timberwolves. Laker coach J.J. Reddick said his star was sitting out for rest, or

as he put it, DMP. Oh, take it out of the pop books. Meaning the Lakers never quite got a dress rehearsal with the real rotation before the regular season open start. I'm going to be at that game on Tuesday me and my daughter.

Hold on. Hey, you got to work. Where the game at? At LA. Oh, should I be there? Man,. Oh, shoot. I'll be there. Man, stop. You ain't fit to be nowhere. You got to work on Wednesday. I do.

No, I'm going to catch a problem. I'm going to go to the game and I'm going to fly private that night. You ain't flying no private. Stop. I got some coupons. Nah. Trailway or Greyhound or the air? I got some coupons. Nah, trailway or Greyhound or the air, which is Spirit, your airline of choice.

That's fine. They don't fly private. As long as they get to point A to point B. You not, though. Not without, you know, stopping off. You have to make two full layovers. For Spirit to go from California to New York, you got to stop at Dallas.

You got to stop at Mississippi. You got to stop at Atlanta. And then you make it on in. They got to fly. They got to fly. They got to red-eye Philly. I mean, from L.A. to Philly. Got to get me in on time.

I see you. I see you at the Laker game. I got to see you. I got to see you. Pops and Ronnie. That's going to be a good one. Yeah. I got to say I saw that.

Because, you know, everybody remember Griffey Jr. Sr. playing together. Oh, yeah. I probably won't get an opportunity to go see another Laker game because of my schedule. But I got to see this one. I mean, he know what he was doing. He said, I'm going to put this thing on Tuesday. I'm going to give you a chance to go see it, huh?

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You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you.

It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Su, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences

with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal

that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those

who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali,

and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. all right oh joe now it's time for q and a you've been a hey well i felt good tonight well i gotta ate a midday nap be paying off

man i ain't having no nap i had to catch a flight. I flew to LA. I flew to New York on Tuesday. Caught a flight back this morning. Out to LA tomorrow. Right. Then back to LA again. Then back to New York. Well, listen. I'm not even going to save my schedule.

Man, first of all, ain't nowhere in hell I take no red-eye on Spirit. Why? What's the problem? I mean, I'm not sure if you looked at the rankings, but Spirit is the number one safest airline right now in the world. You're not. Y'all about to go into bankruptcy. Who? Donald Trump went into bankruptcy.

50 Cent went into bankruptcy. Listen. They ain't flying no planes. It's a business move. They not really bankrupt. I ain't doing it. I got you. I'm not.

Donated 500 bucks. He said, who wins rock, paper, scissors between me and Ocho? I do. We can play right now. Ocho, you ready? Come on. Remember, wait, wait, let me, one, two, three, hit, okay?

Boy, you know how you do. You go one, two. Nah, one, two, three, hit. Okay? Boy, you know how you do. You go one, two. Nah, one, two, three, hit. See, there you go. See what he doing? He pulled. Okay, Ocho. On the count of three.

Right. One, two, three. Beep. Either you slow or the signal slow. What do y'all slow? Chat, y'all see Ocho? What you talking about? Listen, I, listen. Chat, y'all see Ocho?

I'm the rock people's champ. Chat. Let's go Ocho. Come on, I'm ready. I got it. I got it. That's faithful. That's faithful. I got it.

You waited. You waited. You waited until I put mine and then put up the scissors. Ocho, I was before you. Hey, see, black folk can't never do nothing. Black folk, we can't never have a conversation. I'm ready. I'm ready put up the scissors. I went before you. Hey, see, Blackfoot can't never do nothing. Blackfoot, we can't never have nothing.

Why you got to cheat? Why you got to cheat, man? Did y'all see me? I did scissors. He came behind me knowing I did scissors and did paper. All right, one more, one more,

one more, one more. Nope, nope. Man, this young man, he can't even cheat right. How you know the man? You already know the man. So, okay, if he got rock, I'm going to do paper. If he got scissors, I'm going to do rock. This man see me got scissors up there.

He's like, give me paper. You cheated. I cheated. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, my question is, is when are the Broncos going to retire your 84 so no one else can wear it? You know, Kemper, that's a good question.

I don't know. You know what? I need to talk to the Walton Pinter family. I think if you wouldn't go to the Hall of Fame, I think you should have your jersey retired. Especially, I did spend 12, about 14 years there. Kept winning two Super Bowls. Hell, I think me, Zim,

uh, uh, uh, Water. Shit. Me, Zim, Water, TD. Champ. Hell, all of us. They ain't gonna have no jerseys left to wear. Oh, well.

You can wear it. You go into the Hall of Fame, you can get it. Nelson said, who are your top five Broncos of all time? Well, you got to start with seven is one. I would go TD, Vaughn Miller, John, TD, Vaughn. Hell, I know we only played four years there, but but hell you can't leave Peyton out and then I'm gonna say there's a tie between me and champ Bailey for five that's a good one

I would take Peyton out and put champ? I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, look, he played, he played for the Broncos, man. I mean, he won the MVP. He went to two Super Bowls. He was a two-time

first team all pro. He broke the record of a touchdown pass in the game. I mean, a season, he broke the record of a touchdown,

a pass a yard in the season. So, so, broke the record for passing yards of the season. So, I mean, Bond basically single-handedly won a Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. So, I mean,

he got, what, 100 sacks for the Broncos. Man, I think he's the premier defensive player in Bronco history. And, you know, we've had some Bronco history. We had Tombstone Jackson. We had Randy Gratishaw. You had Mack. You had Dennis Smith. You had Atwater.

We've had some pretty good defensive players, but I think Vaughn is the best one. Your boy go crazy. Said, hey, Alex Highsmith will be back on the other side of Watt this week against the Jets how do you think it will affect considering how Tyron Smith is playing he better play

better than what he's been playing that's for damn sure and even the Hebron I think his name is Hebron he ain't no slouch. He bringing pressure on the other side. And you know, you got TJ and then you got Cam Hayward.

Boy. Yeah. Ty gonna have to play better. He gonna have to play better he definitely gonna have to step his game up news 864 we got us one with Dalton Connect he was on fire tonight especially in overtime Lakers at 6

oh NFL Network they got John 1 they got TD 2 they got me 3 they got John 1 they got TD 2 they got me 3 they got Champ 4 Peyton 5, Rossville 6 Atwater 7, Gratishar 8, Mech 9 Vaughn 10

I don't know about that but hey that's a good little list I put it like this here this is what I do know when I go back the fans give me love and that's all But, hey. That's a good little list. Look, I put it like this here. I know this. This is what I do know. When I go back, the fans give me love.

And that's all you could ask for. That's it. They give me, they show me love. They always have. They knew I played my ass off for them. I gave it everything I possibly could. You know, they know when they left that game, 84 played well I was 81 for two years but 84

everybody knows man he played his ass off for it and so that's really all I care about I played for my my coaches trust my teammates respect and for the fans appreciation that was it that's all I played for

respect trust and appreciation and at the end of the. That was it. That's all I played for. Respect, trust, and appreciation. And at the end of the day, I think my teammates respected me. I think the coaches trusted me, and I know the fans appreciated me. Same thing when I went to Baltimore. That's it. All that other stuff that Kate, yeah, it was nice to make a Pro Bowl or All-Pro. All that stuff is nice, Ocho.

I'm not going to lie. It's nice. But at the end of the day, guys and coaches that are around me every single day and the fans that pay their hard-earned money to see 84 and 82 do what I was brought there to do. Right. That's it for me. Nate Harper said, Uncle Ocho, what's your favorite Super Bowl all time other than the ones you played in? Got my nightcap merch today and I love it.

Favorite Super Bowl. My favorite one on Madden. Man, you know, the Super Bowls, man, like the last like 10, 15 years, they've been really good. Yeah. You remember the Steelers and the Cardinals? The Cardinals, that was really good. Really good. The Falcons, even though the Falcons lost 28-3,

that was a really good game. Overtime. That was the first overtime Super Bowl, wasn't it? Yes. The 49ers and the Chiefs. Yes. That was a tough game. What? Yeah. Pass back with the first overtime game.

Yeah, yeah. It was a very good Super Bowl. The Steelers and the Cowboys used to have some good Super Bowls back in the 70s. I think, what was that, 70? 74, 75. Then what, 78, 79? I think that's 78 Super Bowl.

What was the one that they played at Tulane Stadium? I think they had like 15 Hall of Famers on the field at one time, which was the most Hall of Famers on the field at one given time. The Steelers? Was the Steelers

going to play the Cowboys? Was it like 14 so what was 78 what was the 78 Super Bowl wasn't the 78 Super Bowl with the Cowboys and the Steelers because 79 was with theboys and the Steelers because 79 was with the Rams and the Steelers okay

yeah I mean you go back and look at that look at the talent that they had on the field with that one with Randy White and you had obviously you had Mean Joe and Mel Blunt and Pam and Lambert

and Bradshaw you had Swan, Stallworth you had Mike Webster, you had Franco Harris Orange Bowl that was the one that Orange Bowl, That was the one that... Orange Bowl, okay. Super Bowl XIII?

Let's just say I don't think we're going to see that many Hall of Famers on one team again. Uh-uh. Not like that. Huh? Well, because if you think about it, the Steelers had like 9 on one team and they drafted them

let that sink in and what was that 70 was that 74 they took Swan in the first round they took Stallworth no they took they took Swan in the first they took Lambert in the second they took Swan in the first

they took Lambert in the second they took Stallworth in the third and they took Mike Webster in the fourth so their first four picks was Hall of Famers and then if I'm not mistaken they drafted Johnny Shell was a free agent

your draft class got five Hall of Famers in it that'll never be done again unheard of which one Giants Buffalo oh yeah 1990 that was in Tampa

it was Tampa that was wide right yeah Thurman Thomas it was Tampa that was wide right yeah Thurman Thomas they let Thurman Thomas run to keep yeah yeah that's when Otis Anderson was the MVP and was it Scott Norwood

that missed that field goal yeah I mean let's just think of the five Ocho your draft class and you got five Hall of Famers on the same team yes that's your draft

class no that's crazy not the whole draft class your draft class but Bill Nunn was the what you call him was the GM at the time Bill Nunn was the, what you call him, was the GM at the time. Right.

Bill Nunn Jr. was a gutter man. Radio Raheem and the Do The Right Thing, that was his dad that picked those players. Okay. Yeah. I used to be a Steelers fan. My mom loved the Steelers. I think I took my third man, my brother. I was in third grade. My brother was six. We took our school pictures a Steelers fan. My mom loved the Steelers. I think I took my third man. I was in third grade.

My brother was six. We took our school pictures in Steelers jerseys. Franco Harris. You remember? The Steelers used to have sleeves. The Steelers were the only one that had the sleeve to come down here. They didn't have the cutoff. They had this.

They had the half sleeves? Steelers, man. The hot-ass jerseys. Leota Rose. Hey, Nightcap. Steve is bad Hot ass jersey Leota Rose Hey Nightcap I've had a lot of trial and error Trying to reach my goals Can you guys give me some advice tips on how to

Maintain and progress In my fitness journey Boy they come to fitness Boy they ain't nothing but discipline now time to get up i don't know your schedule but ain't nothing but discipline that's all it comes down to discipline and want to you got to want to do it because you're going to have days you don't want to do it hell it was days i didn't want to get up for practice but it's just something i got to do because there was a there was an end goal in mind yes keep that end goal in mind but

it all comes down to discipline and don't make no excuses don't make no excuses you'll feel better about yourself when you see the results though it is that was the that that's that's what drove that's what got me oh joe that's what really got me hooked on fitness is that when i started working out and i saw the results i saw 185 pounds skinny kid go to 205 yeah about five months yeah abdub yeah yeah that sound like me now you know but your boy i was an underarm a mannequin you know you go in the dicks and you see the mannequins yeah yeah i look i like i look i look like a sculpture too now I look like Alexander the Great Treaded like a Trump tax return

Yeah Ocho Hell nah Waste was gone like a Clinton email Disappeared Like a Clinton email That's what it is your your desire to reach that fitness goal has to be greater than your desire not to or to eat that snack or to not go work out or not to do that extra cardio

i mean what is it that you're actually trying to accomplish? And how bad do you want to accomplish? Because when we want to do something, we do what we want to do. We really do. And ain't no shortcuts either. No, no, no, no, no. After that, it ain't no shortcuts. Nah. No. No.

There's not. But you just have to have a single. It's one day at a time. It's one. It is literally one day at a time. One day at a time. And, you know, hey, I mean, honey, rice, my dad, I get two cheap meals a week. Not cheap days. I get meals.

Right. So I get out of the meals. I try to eat. He got me me eating try to eat five times a day but good luck with that it's all i could do is get four down damn the five but i get two cheat meals my cheat meals normally consist of two burgers with sweet potato fries and then like on a sunday i'll do breakfast i'll get like a French toast. I get French toast. I get pancakes and egg whites and turkey bacon or chicken sausage. That's it. Other than that, it's Tupperware.

It's broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Ocho, you know greatness is boring? Oh, turkey. Broccoli, carrots, chicken, turkey. Ocho, you know greatness is boring? Oh yeah. You know it's monotonous? It is. Ask Tom Brady because he did the same thing over and over for 23 years.

Greatness is boring. It's the monotony of it. And you do something over and over not until you get it right you do it over and over until you can't get it wrong that's it and you know hey even me I got to do a better job

I got to get back on you know it's like it's just because I'm like I'm traveling I'm already dying my medallion right but there ain't no excuse there is no excuse none zero

and I ain't finna give you one but I'm gonna get my fat ass in shape too I am I'm gonna get my fat ass in shape too. I am. I'm tired of being this big. Yeah. Big for no reason. Man, everybody talking about, man, I went to the mid-joint with that Olympia.

Man, you need to get on stage. What stage? Sit my old ass down. I'm cheering for Samson. I'm cheering for Andrew down. I'm cheering. I'm cheering for Samson. I'm cheering for Andrew Jack. I'm cheering for all them guys. I don't want no part of no stage, man. Nah, but I'm finna get this thing off me.

I'm finna peel up. Watch. So when I come to your wedding, I'm gonna be in that thing wedding I'm coming to that thing With them white leather pants on Are we peeled up? I'm telling you I'm coming in With I ain't got no shirt on Ocho Hey now you gotta have your shirt on now

You can have it unbuttoned But you gotta have it on Ocho let me live I'm gonna let you live But you gotta come You gotta come to the wedding correct now You know security I don't want security To have to escort you out now.

A bad look here. Hey, do you want the wedding to go off without a hitch? Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in

front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.

And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered.

Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. All right, I'm going to have to unbutton all the way down.

Only one button is going to be buttoned. I'm going to have them linen. You know, you know, you know you know you know have a little wet you know have a little wet and then you know

what I'm saying don't you and put that put that oil over you know so that thing be glistening the water be beading up on your boy

yeah yeah yeah I like it Lord have mercy I like it. Woo! Lord have mercy. I like it. But I ain't fooling with you, Ocho. I'm ready. Architect Nice TV said, Hey, Ocho.

I want to play some friendly Bam, Bam, you Jackson State game this weekend. Bet. Bet it. Bet it. What you want to bet? Make it lighter. Bet $100. Bet it. Bet it. What you want to bet? Make it lighter.

Bet $100. Bet $100, boy. Send me a DM, too. Send me a DM. You got something you want to bet, Mocho? I just bet him $100. Oh, okay. Bet him $100.

Well, you know, fam from the whack, man. Come on, man. You know, Jackson State ain't got nothing for fam, you man. Stop playing, boy. Jesus loves Kobe said it. Uncle, no joke, man. You know, Jackson State ain't got nothing for fam, you man. Stop playing, bro. Jesus loves Kobe said it. Uncle, no joke. And you just wish my brother Brennan Tate a happy birthday. He's a great guy.

And, you know, he'd love to hear from you guys since he loves ball. Excuse me. Brennan, happy birthday, bro. Want to wish you a happy birthday. Hope you had a great day. I don't know if it's today or if it's tomorrow, but whatever the case may be, hopefully you have a joyous and a very celebratory birthday. Enjoy it with family, friends, and loved ones.

And enjoy your day and many more to come. Thanks for supporting Nightcap. Yes, sir. Hey, Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, congrats on winning Best Hip Hop Platinum Award from BET Hip Hop. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? We won the award.

You know we won the BET. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations. Hey, you know what I'm saying? I'm thinking about, I'm going to have to build me a trophy room. I'm going to build me a trophy room. You got to put them all up there.

We're about to get some more, too. We win these Signal Awards. Yeah, when you finish. Thanks, Doc. Yeah, man. I mean, it's great. I mean, obviously, I'm the face and everybody knows Club Shea Shea, but there's so many people from CJ to the graphics people,

to the editors, to everybody that does such a great job. Savannah, that that coordinates a lot, man. There's a lot that goes into it. And I'm just thankful that I have I believe that I have the best staff at Shea Shea Media because everybody that works at Shea Shea Media, especially that work close to me, they know more than I do. So I let them do their thing. I let Ash at Nightcap. She does her thing. She know I let them do their thing. I let Ash at night camp, she does her thing. She know I trust her wholeheartedly, but she know if it don't go well, she will

have to make that call. CJ is the same thing. I let CJ, whatever you think we should do, whatever you think we can do to keep advancing club Shea Shea, bro, you have my blessing. You don't have to run it by anybody else. Hey, if anybody asks you, you've already cleared it with me.

Ash, if anybody asks you, you've already cleared it with me. Take off with it. But I want them to feel empowered. I want them to feel that whatever the case may be, whatever is going to help Shea Shea Media, Nightcap, Club Shea Shea, 520, Bubba Dub, we're getting ready to do a deal. Obviously, we're getting ready to deal.

Can we take real? Oh, we can't say nothing. Maybe. Maybe. So, yeah. But, I mean, man, this, I mean man this I mean never in 24 the way 24 started off

I mean couldn't imagine it no the only difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to make sense. This is true. You can't, you can't. Some things are beyond explanation.

You don't have answers for. God showed favor. He heard prayers that you didn't even think he was listening to. And when he has something for you, can no one else stop it? And Cat coming on, and like I said, I mean, him,

he's great. Like I said, and I talked to him. I talked to Cat. And what's one thing about him? He go, if he don't pick up the phone. Right. Within 10 minutes.

If he ain't like on set, he gonna call back. You need what you need. You need something? Nah, I don't need anything. I'm just, bro. I just, hey, just want to talk. Just, hey, how you doing? I say, what do you need? What can nah I don't need anything I'm just bro I just hey just want to talk just hey how you doing I say what what do you need what can I do for you yeah and his answer is he's like I didn't do

this to get something in return that was my that was God's blessing you through me I said bro let me do something say nope he said because if I were to do something. He said, nope. He said, because if I were to accept something, that mean I did it for

the wrong reason. I was doing it expecting something. Right, right, right. He said, but I told you it was going to put you in a hole. He said it. I mean, Jordan heard it. I mean, he said it. He said, this is going to put you in a whole new dimension. I mean, when people say stuff like, boy,

you're going to be something. You know, you're like, man, that man said, this is going to put you in a whole new dimension. I couldn't even imagine. And

as the pastor used to say in our church if i had a thousand tongues i couldn't thank him enough because it did it launched club shea shea it helped catapult uh nightcap into a stratosphere we could have only dreamed of ocho. And if we had dreamed it, we probably would have needed to wake up because he's like, man, that ain't no way that could happen. Not that good, not like that. Right. That fast.

Yet here we are. The awards, the accolades, the attention, the what comes along with this has definitely been a blessing. I mean, 24, the attention, what comes along with this has definitely been a blessing. I mean, 24, you know, I get a new deal from ESPN. You get deals from, you with DraftKings,

and you with, what's the, inside the NFL. Inside the, hold on, I got another one too, huh? What you got? I got another one with Apple Apple

I don't even know if I'm allowed to say it yet but I didn't jump the gun but fuck it oh well so I mean everything that we've got nightcap is continues to grow

club Shay Shay continues to grow rolling ESPN growing your role inside the NFL cap is continues to grow. Club Shay Shay continue to grow. Rolling ESPN growing your role inside the NFL. You got all these gigs, all these things. Everything is just happening.

So a number of favor, baby. That's it. Ain't nothing. And, you know, we just just give credit

to the man above. Yeah. But it's a huge honor to win this BET award. I mean, obviously, we grew up watching BET. And to win this award is a huge honor. And so I thank BET and anybody that voted. Thank you. It's greatly,

greatly appreciated. So, what else you got tonight? Who that? You. I think I'm going to watch a car.

Nah, I ain't going to sleep in. Shoot, well, I'm going to go work out. I'm going to hit this bed. I hit the gym at 6 a.m. I got to work out. I got to pack. Get ready for tomorrow. hit this bed. I hit the gym at 6 a.m. I got to work out. I got to pack.

Get ready for tomorrow. Catch this flight. Are we staying overnight? Or are we coming right back? What time? 4 o'clock. Four o'clock. Oh.

Yeah, but I thank you guys because look, Ocho and I do what we do. Ash does what she does. The team at Shea Shea Media, the graphics. Ash does what she does. The team at Shaysha Media, the graphics, Jordan does a great job of capturing content, doing what he does.

CJ and his staff, they do what they do, but you guys make it all possible. You guys watch. You guys listen. You guys share. You guys talk about. None of this is possible without you. And I mean, I just, I couldn't even, I couldn't even, I couldn't imagine this, that, what,

what was that, 16, 17 months ago when I left FS1? June of 23. So 17 months. If somebody would have told me 17 months ago, say, Shannon, this is kind of where your life, this is where you're going to be heading. You're going to have this. Man, come on, Ocho. With a lot more projects in the work and you know, that's, you know,

a lot of times, a lot of things like, okay, Shannon, do you want to take these meetings or do you want to go work out? And I have to take the meetings, Ocho. Because these execs, they want to sit down and look Shannon Sharp in his eye and see how serious he is about doing said projects. Right.

And then, you know, Ash and I, or CJ and I, we got to go and take these meetings. So I've got to get left behind. It's my workout. Right. so I've got to get left behind. It's my workout. But what's happening is that the fans, the people that watch us, they can't deny us, Ocho.

They can't deny us. No matter what they think about you, no matter what they think about us, no matter what, this and that, and, you know, try to manifest a dissension between you and I,

it's undeniable. It's undeniable. And we're just getting started. Oh, yeah. We're just getting started, Ocho. We haven't even scratched the surface yet. You know, now if you could just getting started, Ocho. We haven't even scratched the surface yet. You know, now if you could just stop eating booty, it would be a lot better.

Stop what? Now you say nothing. I couldn't hear you because you were mumbling. Stop eating booty. Excuse me. Yeah, that's what I said. Other than that, you know. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

The Broncos take down the Saints 33-10. They sacked Rattler six times. Um, Bo Nix was clean. They get 35 rushes, 225 yards, two touchdowns on the ground. Both of those by Javante Williams as they roll over the saints.

33, 10. Thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap. I'm your favorite on Shannon sharp. That's 85. That's from Liberty. He's from Liberty City. He's a bingo ring of fame, honoree, a pro bowler, an all pro. That's Chad Ochocinco

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