Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Alexander denies media, Russ wants to run it back, Baker upset with himself

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Packers CB Jaire Alexander refusing to speak to the media during locker room cleanout, Russell Wilson plans to re-sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Bucs QB Baker Mayfield is upset with himself after a playoff loss to the Commanders and much more!03:19 - Alexander not sure he would be with Packers next yr07:35 - Russ plans on resigning with Steelers12:37 - TJ Watt doesnt want to go anywhere else18:00 - Baker Mayfield24:18 - Ed Reed new OC of Chamblee High27:10 - Jimmy Butler36:00 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, I think it's over. I think you think it's over too. If he's not going to be there, you know what? There's a beautiful place. There's a beautiful place down in the Midwest called Cincinnati. We're going to have a little pocket change for you, Zaire. We're going to have some pocket change for you. Come on over there.

Play a little man-to-man. I know you're going to see this. I know you're going to come down there because Cincinnati... No, he don't. What? No, he don't. Why wouldn't he? Why would he? What do you mean? What do you mean? You ain't got no pass rush.

Y'all about to lose, Anderson. Listen, Isaiah Alexander is the top five man to man man to man. Ain't no such thing as top five when you ain't got no pass rush. You know how that work. That go hand in hand. That's just like saying

you a top five receiver. There's a reason why with Tyreek, he trying to get up out of there. That thing look different when you ain't got a quarterback that can get you that rock, Ocho. Listen, let me, let me, let me,

let me, let me, let me, let me recruit, okay? Let me recruit. Okay, go ahead. Dyer Alexander. I know you're going to see this. I'm on down to Cincinnati, okay? I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. Now, if you go somewhere else that had nothing to do with Cincinnati,

after I told you we welcome you with open arms, I'm going to beat you up. Hey, you know this former teammate is the quarterback in Baltimore. They got Nate Wiggins and they have Marlon Humphrey. Play the slot. They can kick Jair outside.

Jair Alexander, come to Cincinnati. Don't listen to what I'm talking about. Don't listen to what I'm talking about don't listen to what I'm talking about come on Daniel he going to the highest bidder he going to the highest bidder Ocho well we would be the highest hold on

I think they still own his rights so they can trade him they going to go get the best deal okay okay okay well outside of the division so they can trade him. They're going to go get the best deal. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well,

outside of the division, I'm going to try to keep him out of the NFC. But if somebody in the NFC offered me the best package, well, he going to the NFC. Listen, they don't want him in the NFC. Guess where the perfect place for him to go is? Cincinnati. Ocho, when last time y'all traded for somebody? They don't want him in the NFC. Guess where the perfect place for him to go is?

Cincinnati. Oh, Joe, when's the last time y'all traded for somebody? Oh, we're trading for that because what's the one? When was the last time? When was the last time? It's not about when's the last time we did something. We're trying to change the culture in Cincinnati. Is that what y'all made? Is that what y'all made?

Is that what y'all made Chase play on this contract because y'all were trying to change something? Actually, wait a minute. Now, you know they don't pay nobody with two years left on their contract unless you're a quarterback. You told me you didn't care if he had 50 years left. That's if I was the owner. Okay, so with that being said,

when was the last... See, they got that same owner. Paul Brown was his dad. Mike Brown not. When was the last time See, they got that same owner. Paul Brown was his dad. Mike Brown now. When was the last time they made a trade for somebody? Listen, I think the decision-making comes down to KD and Troy Blackburn. They're doing a phenomenal job. They've

done a phenomenal job in changing... That's his daughter. When was the last time... You still ain't answered the question. The chat want to know. I don't know. I don't have it written in front of me. Right off the top of my head. But we're trying to improve our defense. Why not go and get one of the best corners in the NFL

who feels he will no longer be in Green Bay? We're going to get him for the Broncos and pair him up with Pat. No, man. Come on. Come on. Hey, they're going to lock the rain. They're going to lock down the rain.

Nah, nah. He's coming to Cincinnati. Wee. Coming to Cincinnati. Nah, they haven't. I already put the beard out there. I know he's going to see this. Zaire, holler at your boy.

My number's still the same. Oh, Joe. Russell Wilson plans on resigning with the steelers justin fields was four and two russ was six and six uh is it time for the pittsburgh to go all in with justin fields pitt is expected to work on signing fields before free agency so what should the steelers do the steelers lost their last five games for regular season and the playoffs. So that's five consecutive games in which they lost. What should the Steelers do? You know what?

That's a great question. That's a great question. Now, what people would say is, well, obviously you lost the last five. Why would you go back to Russell Wilson? Let's start with Justin Fields and have a clean slate and have him take over from that point. Right. Mike Tomlin, this is a very difficult decision. You know, as someone on the outside looking in,

to me, I would like to continue with Russ Wilson and see what we can do going into next year, right? I need them to change the offense a little bit. What would you like to see them change about it? Push the ball down the field more? Thank you. Be more creative? Be more creative. Use your offensive weapons. Everything

seems so predictable. No, you mean offensive weapon. Offensive weapons. Oh, yeah. They got to get somebody else over there, man. They got to get somebody else over there. They got to. One more weapon to go and there, man. They got to get somebody else over there. They got to. One more weapon to go and pick, man. Just some, you know?

Some. But the thing is, look, if you make a commitment to Fields, you just got to go with him. Right. I don't think he's really interested in signing a contract and sitting on the bench. You can't flip-flop back and forth, huh? Yeah. What would you do?

What would you do if he was Mike Thomas? Ask to get traded? Ocho, sometimes after 17, 18 years, it's time for a new voice. You think so? Ocho, sometimes after 17, 18 years, it's time for a new voice. You think so? Because the problem is the Steelers are just good enough to be a playoff contending team, but not good enough to go the distance. And so now you're kind of in purgatory. You can't go to heaven.

You're not in hell, but you're not advancing. Damn, that's a good one, huh? I don't like it, though. Do you think the Steelers fan base would like that, though? No. Because the Steelers, look, if you go back and look at them,

for the longest time, they had Coach Nall. Coach Nall won four championships in six years. Right. And then he was mediocre. All the 80s. Right. They went to the AFC Championship game.

Dan Marino's second year. The Dolphins beat him. Then after that, they were just mediocre. I think they only made the playoffs like in the last 12 years, like what, four times? Coach Cowan comes in in 92. He goes to the Super Bowl in 95. They lose to the Steelers.

And they don't go to the Super Bowl until 2005. They win. Mike Tomlin comes in. He goes early, wins, goes back again in, what, 2011? And hadn't even been close since. So the Steelers are okay with that. Think about it. They've had three coaches since 1969.

They fired none of them. Chuck Nol retired. Coach Kyle retired. It's hard to look, man. It's hard getting to that Super Bowl, man, getting to that chip. It's hard to walk, man. It's hard. Getting to that Super Bowl, man. Getting to that chip is hard, man. It is. The Patriots

spoiled a lot of people. The Chiefs are spoiling a lot of people because they have quarterbacks that make it look easy. They have quarterbacks that make it look easy, man. The Steelers, look, the Steelers at some point in time, you

see the Rams, the Rams like we go for they went all in and they cashed out. Right. That's not what the Steelers do. That's not what a lot of teams do. But you see Detroit. They make that big move. Yeah. Big. Hey, they did a great job of drafting.

And, you know, hey, they don't have a problem getting free agents. Yeah. Hey, they did a great job of drafting. Mm-hmm. And, you know, hey, they don't have a problem getting free agents. No. You got to do that. That's crazy. And I'm picturing that, too, right now. I'm just picturing Mike Tomlin in a different attire, on a different team. And it just wouldn't seem right. Andy Reid was with the Eagles for all those years.

And they said, bro, we make the playoffs, but we're not really going nowhere. Yeah. And he goes to Kansas City and boom. Yeah. Damn. Got to change something, don't you? Yeah.

TJ Watt doesn't want to go play anywhere else.'s take a listen to what tj had to say i want to be a pitchfork so that you guys know that i don't want to leave this place especially in this i want to be part of the solution uh i've put so much into it here i've seen uh so many guys i mean i want to help cam harry get to where we need to get i want to be a part of the solution i don't want to leave this place i love the people here um and that goes beyond just the coaches it's it's it's the fan base it's the people the community and um we owe it to them to get it right and i want to be part of the solution not not leave here uh go somewhere else it's not my intention. I'm not even sure who even asked him the question like that

where he even has to say that. You know, he's a centerpiece. I know a guy who thought that too, Ocho. He's the centerpiece on that defense. Ask his big brother. His big brother didn't want to go nowhere either. Tell the people at home where he finished his last two years, Ocho.

Yeah, you right. You right by that. When you great and you don't have a chance, because all he wants is a chance to really have an opportunity. Right. To play for a Super Bowl. That's what his big brother wanted. Same as Miles.

I just can't picture them. I can't picture them in. That's crazy. I mean, if you think about it. DeMarcus Ware. Yeah. Cowboys let him go. Say, nah, they release him.

Yeah. John picks him up. Boom. Put it with Vaughn. Boom. Yeah. Cowboys let him go and say, nah, they release him. Yeah. John picks him up, boom. Put it with Vaughn, boom. Yeah. I just, dog, we talk about one of the premier pass rushes in the NFL not being a Pittsburgh Steeler. We're used to seeing them in 90 in a

Pittsburgh Steeler uniform and seeing them go somewhere else outside of Pittsburgh. I remember Reggie was a Philadelphia Eagle, too. Until he went to Green Bay? Until he went to Green Bay. Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, hey, it's not like it used to be.

Our favorite players, Joe, Mean Joe, Pittsburgh Steelers, Buccas. Right. Ray Luke. I mean, yes, you want to see your historically great players have one helmet. But I also want an opportunity to play for the Super Bowl. Right. That's why I want to see. I want to be on that big stage.

Right. Steelers not close, though, Joe. They're not. Let's not kid ourselves. They're not close. Yeah. Think about what's in that division. Oh, yeah.

They got to deal with Lamar Jackson for another decade. They got Joe Burrow for another decade. They're not close. They're not. Yeah. They got Mahone for another decade. Right. They got Josh Allen for another decade.

Yeah. Now that comes back to what I told you about wanting players to stop being optimistic and stop being politically correct and just tell the truth on how they really feel. Maybe he's saying all the right things publicly, which is what you have to do, and behind the scenes

he lets your agent do the dirty work. Yeah. Yeah, you say all the right things publicly. Yeah. Yeah, you say all the right things publicly. Yeah. Hey. They need offensively, they need another playmaker. Get a little line, get some more line help.

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Ocho, Baker says dumb stuff from the loss. We're wearing me for a while. How long did it take you to get over the playoff loss, Ocho? Well, oh, shoot. Normally during the regular season, there's a 24 hour rule. Playoffs

is a different ball game. Obviously, I didn't go to the regular season, there's a 24-hour rule. Playoffs is a different ballgame. Obviously, I didn't go to playoffs much, but I remember the loss to the Jets. Not only the loss to the Jets, I remember my abysmal performance against Revis. Obviously, one of the— Oh, man, that man did a number on you. Hey, listen, one of the greatest DBs of all time— You say you're one of the greatest receivers. Can I finish?

Okay, go ahead. My bad. One of the greatest DBs of all time and one of the greatest seasons of all time for any DB, that 2009 season. So obviously I was upset at that. It took me a little bit longer to get over not just that loss, but me not being able to contribute in the way I felt I should have been able to in that loss in 2009. So maybe about a week, maybe about a week.

And not only that, I went back watching tape over and over and look at all the things that I could have done, all the mistakes that I did do on why things didn't go well for me from an individual standpoint. Then I looked at us, looked at the game again in its totality and why we lost offensively. And it was just, it was, it sucked. It sucked.

So about a week after a week, you know, I kind of let it go, let it brush off and just took my time off and enjoyed my offseason. Depends. The Jacksonville loss, never. About a month. Because you replay it over and over. What could you have done differently? A month?

Yeah. Jacksonville, you never get over that. Right. Because, you know, we had a superior team. They outplayed us that day. And we lost. It was really that simple. We got away from what had gotten us there, which was Terrell running the football.

All of a sudden, we want to throw it all over the yard, and that's not what we were. Mm-hmm. Thank God Mike didn't ever make that mistake again, and TD ran us home. That's why in eight games, four of those games, TD played in eight playoff games. Four of those, he ran for 150 or more,

which is an NFL record that Derrick Henry just tied. Seven of those eight, he rushed for 100 yards. The only game he didn't was that first game against Jacksonville. He had 91 on 14 carries. All the other games, he was well over 100 yards. Yeah, I mean, it hurts. Man, he was well over 100 yards. Yeah, I mean, it hurts. When you put the kind of time in

and the kind of time that you put in to be great at a craft, and I think the thing is with Baker is that he formed the ball and it gave Washington the momentum back into this ball game. That's what stings. That's what really, really stings.

You know, having a drop in a big moment and, you know, I don't think you ever get over that. Unless you win. I mean, yeah, I mean, I still think about Jacksonville, but it's a little easier because I did end up going three more times to the, you know, getting to the Superbowl three times or so. And I want,

right. But I still think about, Hey, I could have had four. Maybe we could have won three in a row. So there's a lot of things that, you know, you,

you, you, you get in your own head sometimes. And, uh, you know, you, you think what if, right. And I, I hate that. Cause I've done, you know you think what if

and I hate that I've done that think about that in relationships sometimes what if what if I what if I gave someone what I gave football

hey what if I gave someone what I gave football? Hey, do you understand if you put the kind of time and discipline and fortitude and want to study in time that you put in the football into a partner?

I do. Boy, you'd be the football into a partner. I do. Boy, you'd be the best husband, man. Boy, a woman with. You know what? That's my thing. You know what, Joe? I might have to go back. I might have to go back.

I might have to go back. Well, I know what she told me. I know what she told me. I know both of them told me the same thing. Wait, don't say it yet. Wait, let me get my pen and paper now. No, no, no, no. I ain't going to say it on there. I ain't going to say it on there. Okay, okay.

Yeah. Okay. I know why. She told me why. I mean, two therapists told me the same thing. Neither knew the other because they were 20 years apart. But they told me the same thing. Right. Neither knew the other because they were 20 years apart.

But they told me the same thing, why I'm like that. Why I do what I do. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And that's it. I really thought about that yesterday and I did my homework today. Now, we talked about relationships and we talked about therapy and you told me how therapy helped, but it got

to the point where you just couldn't do it no more. couldn't do it anymore because you you you you were doing so much you were starting to lose a sense of self nope so i would hey yo rare yeah so i i did my own homework i did some research and you know my research was more so looking at the prices. It's kind of hefty. I'm thinking instead of me going to a therapist, I could slide you $100. Oh, you talk to me?

Yeah, you could be the mediator. I already owe you? Yeah, yeah. You know, you could be the mediator, you know? I already owe you $5,200. Yeah, you do. I can pay you $5,200, and you can use that. That can go to the fee. So that'll be your therapy payable, huh?

Bingo, right there. This man tried to hire a therapist with money he already owes somebody. Ocho, Ed Reed is headed to high school. He was announced as the new OC at Chamblee High School. Right down the road from the crib. Chamblee. You know, Ocho, it was

all in my arms whoa you gotta look too comfortable but okay come on you see Aaron Reid is the new OC at Shambly High School in Georgia

you remember one time Ocho he was in the running to be the head coach at Bethune and then when he got to the establishment you know it wasn't fit to his liking and normally

you have a talk with the powers that be at the institution you know but he took it the wrong way and kind of put it on the airways and they didn't like that you know but he you know he he took it the wrong way and and kind of put it put it on the airways and and they didn't they didn't like that you know i'm happy i'm happy for ed i'm happy for ed and um it's a great opportunity for for that school and um they they got a good one boy they they they

got him a good one they do um i wish you could have got that job. I wish things could have worked out better for him. Yeah, yeah, it'd been really nice. You see Eddie George at Tennessee State. Coach Prime was at Jackson. Now he's at CU. D-Jack, Deshaun Jackson is at Delaware State. Yeah, yeah. Mike, Mike Vick is at Norfolk so I'm well shoot, since all these players getting coaching jobs, what you want to put you want to put your hand in that? I don't, you just told me they don't make enough money, I mean shoot

the kind of money, I mean not like we never mind nah I'm good you probably can do it but I don't have the patience I know me man listen you mess around and put me in an atmosphere like that where my body is still willing and able

I'm still in shape I'm going to be in the way because I'm going to be suited up in that whole uniform cleats and all no I don't I want no part of coaching I'm smart enough you know yeah Heinz Ward is at Arizona State. I think Hines Ward is going to be a coach, going to be a head coach.

He's a receiver coach. Yeah. Okay. I mean, there are a lot of guys. Hold on. Antoine Randall is in Detroit. I think Keenan McCardle is in Minnesota. Yeah, yeah.

But I just – no, I'm not. That helps. I want no part of coaching. I ain't going to hold nobody on that. Ocho, the reports, there are multiple instances in which Jimmy Butler skipped morning shoot-arounds and insisted on taking private flights separate

from the team. This is what ultimately led to his seven-game team suspension. Oh. Man, I wish I met. Man, hey, look, private PJs aren't cheap. Right. And I know, hey, I might be mad. Hey, I know I ain't spending my money.

I'm not spending my money. I'm flying on that team plan. I might not like playing rally. I'm not spending my money. I'm flying on that team plan. I might not like playing Riley. I might not like that situation, but I'm not coming out of my pocket. No hundred plus thousand dollars today from Miami. You had the bottom. Ain't no cheap flight.

Let you go in Orlando. Right. Right. But you know, Hey, they'd be playing in Portland. They'd be all alone. Oh,

yeah. Listen, you got to remember now. You got to understand and remember the kind of money they making. They making a different kind of money, boy. Yeah. A different kind of money. The kind of money they make is hockey.

I call it hockey. Oh, but here's the thing, though, Ocho. You do that. I mean, yeah. I mean, but you spend, I mean, how long was he going to do it? Maybe until things were resolved internally? Nah. I'm going to be on that plane. I'm going to let my agent

and them resolve it. I'm going to let my agent and them resolve that. I ain't resolving it. By coming out of my pocket. Oh, no. I cannot do it. Now, maybe he got a hookup or something, Ocho, that he gets one at a discount.

Hey, maybe he has his own. But I think the smart thing to do is to get hours in one. You know what I'm saying? Have a timeshare. Say, I'm going to get, you know, spend $100. $100 will probably cost you two mil. What? And it's

so funny. It's so funny. I'm acting excited about two mil and I'm thinking about it. Like, you know, I hear all the stories, you know, our circle is all the same, you know? Yeah. And I'm thinking about there's a certain person. I ain't saying her name because I'm not one to, you know, drop her name. But when you gamble, you know, drop her name. But when you gamble,

you know, two men ain't nothing for them to lose or win. And I'm not talking about... I mean, I ain't even talking about Jordan. I'm talking about, you know, heavy gambler, you know? No, I don't.

I used to gamble like that. But you know what, Ocho? You can gamble like that if you can look at those chips and don't see them as money. They're just objects. And I can no longer do that. I started looking at it. I started thinking like, damn.

That's a year of my mortgage payments right there. I just got there on the table right there. That's a year of mortgage payments right there. Damn. That's my son's tuition. That's a year of mortgage payments right there. Damn. That's my son's tuition. That's my son's tuition for a year right there. That's my daughter's tuition right there. I'm like, nah, I'm done.

Because I can no longer. When I used to be able to like, oh, $5,000, $10,000, that ain't nothing. And then Donald, I didn't think about it, Ochoa. But once i started looking at it and it started like oh no yeah and you know what you look at it you look at it at a different lens when you're done playing so you yeah you understand the value of a dollar when you're done playing you don't have that money coming in like that, like, you know, when it's coming in fast, week to week, every week? Oh, it's different.

It's different. It's hard to get off money now, Ocho. Like, I got a Range Rover, Ocho. It's 2012. Right. It's a 2013, but I got it in October 2012 because, you know, the 13 models came out in October.

Ocho, I got 37,000 miles on the car. You want to get that up off your hands? No. And my father-in-law was shouting, you know, hey, you hadn't bought anything. And you hadn't bought. Well, actually, I just bought my mom a car. Let me get the earphone. It's on your seat, George.

I just bought my mom a car today. Right. Well, what you got? What you got? What you got? What what you got an E350 boy you got money boy an E350 yeah I got a little E350

damn well you don't be playing what nah nah nah tell mama sharp I say congratulations, man. Yeah, she does. She probably been driving all around to my...

Thanks, baby, for my car. I had to stop at Walgreens to get my medicine. I said, you could have had that medicine sent to your house, Mama. You trying to show that car? You think you slick, Mama. My Mama will show up for sure for 1000 for certain yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh you know she i bought her car many years ago she had that car right she didn't want to tell me that's my baby i had this car this is my gift

i said mama if i buy you another car it's a gift too i'm confused but it's just it's just i just had it for so long. Yeah. She traded in. Guess how much they gave her for it, Ocho? How much? $500. I paid $250 to have it towed up there. So, in other words, in other words, she got $250 for that damn car.

So, that shows you the type of condition the car was in. Right. Oh, man. But, no, she happy. She happy. She got her car. She happy she got her car. She can profile her to her girlfriend. They go to the casino. She go to church.

She play bingo too? Just the slots. Just the slots, yeah. She don't play no bingo. But nah, she happy with that. I told her I was bingo. But nah, she happy with that. Hey, I told her I'm going to get her something. I got her that. So got my

brother something last March. My sister said she good. She don't want nothing. She said she like her little car. I got one coming on the way, man. Man, I bought my sister Kia. Yeah. Man, she love that car. You got lucky.

Mine, my daughter getting ready to graduate. I made her a deal. What is it? She say, Daddy, if I graduate early, can you get me a car? I say, yeah, I can get you a car. That ain't nothing. Then she told me what kind of car she wanted. And now I got to keep my word. Man, she said. What kind of car she wanted And now I gotta I gotta keep my word

Man she said What kind of car she want She want a G-Wagon Oh lord no Oh no I say she She say she want a G-Wagon I say baby

Like you have all these different type of cars That you can choose from. Are you sure you want a G-Wagon? No, sir. Yes, he said, yes. I say, well, hold on. How are you going to pay your insurance? How are you going to get gas?

He said, yes. Once I graduate, I'm going to have a job. I said, well, I tell you what. When you graduate and you get your job and you have some consistent revenue and income flowing in, I'm going to get you a G-Wagon. I'm going to get you, I'm going to stick to my word, I'm going to get you a G-Wagon. I can't get all that kind of money. Listen, that's going to

be a ripple effect now. Because if I get that G-Wagon, what you think else going to happen from the rest of these? Of course. Nope. But it's all good. Listen, I got 50 left jobs. I can't complain about Nathaniel. I can't complain.

Hey, we got to be reasonable. Yeah. Because the maintenance and the upkeep on it, they pop the A. Hey, listen, I should have thought about that about, what, 21, 22 years ago? You know? No, you should have put a limit on it.

Say, hey, this is what I'm winning to pay for a car. Right. But they don't ask for none. That's why, you know, I told you how mine are. They don't ask for none. Holidays, birthday, that's it.

No, I can't get your first car? No. This ain't our first. Oh, No. This ain't her first. Oh, no. This will be her second. So, you know, I'm going to take her from, you know, her little starter car and let her graduate a little bit. Let her have a little fun. Let her live a little bit.

No. Let her live a little. No. No? No, you got to make them hungry. Okay. Oh, she hungry. She hungry.

That's why she graduating early. Gee wagons. Hey,. That's why she graduating early. G-Wagon. Hey, but hey, that's what I just... No, I ain't finna start that. And plus, I already got the kids a car. I got everybody a car. They left debt free.

Yeah. Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Abraham Sarwar, Uncle Ocho really put the cap in night cap. Jenny

Averill, I knew Ocho was trolling and the chat is shaded, quick to turn congrats, Arnie Rail, of course I text Ocho I say, see now a lot of those people, oh I love Uncle Ocho, but quick they were quick to try to drive that wedge

between Uncle Ocho, you see that but see, sometimes you need to see it for yourself because, and that's why I tell people, everybody that jump into my You see that? But see, sometimes you need to see it for yourself. Because and that's why that's why I tell people, everybody that jump into my, oh, I'm happy, I'm excited. They not. No, they really not. And sometimes you have to see it for yourself. And I'm glad we got an opportunity to see. Yeah. Do we got people that's very excited for us that cheer us on? Absolutely. Sincerely and genuinely happy? Absolutely. But there's a lot that pretend

they're happy and excited and all the while I sure hope they break up. I sure hope they break up because we got something going. Because here's the thing, Ocho, a lot of people that do what we do, they know what they do.

And they see what we do and they know what we do. So they know. they do. Right. And they see what we do and they know what we do. So they know. Yeah. Yeah. They know. Well, definitely listen. I mean,

a lot of people, you know, my, my, my supporters, my followers, uh, they,

they were, they were, they were saying some, some mean things, you know, so they apologize to y'all for, for trolling today. But,

but sometimes you need to see, Oh, Joe, you got to see who really in your corner. It's like when you tell somebody no, and they say, okay, I understand, bro. You done been so good to me so many times, Ocho. Hey, I ain't got no problem with you saying no. But it's

when they say no, I'm like, well, damn, bro. You got that money like that, you can't break your boy off again? Yeah. Then you know. Yeah. But listen, I listen, again, I'm happy for her and all that she has going on. Obviously, with her

real estate company, Netflix stuff she has going on with Netflix, show coming out on February 22nd. Then obviously the podcast up under our umbrella. This is what it's all about. Having someone on your side that you can continue to help elevate in whatever under our umbrella. And this is what it's all about. You know, having someone on your side that you can

continue to help elevate in whatever it is they have going on. It's a beautiful feeling. Even though, you know, now what is not a joke is that things aren't where they should be between us. I can just be honest with you. And Chad, I can be honest with y'all too.

Yeah, continue to work. Yeah, yeah. It's rocky. It's rocky. So the fact that I can compartmentalize and separate the business side of things and work on the pleasure side later on down the line, you know, whenever I decide to be the moderator and be our therapist. But other than that... What we got? James Colvin. Whoa! Y'all ninjas got me.

Boy, I was hot during the Humble Batty signing. First, Fitzdahl balled up. Good luck to all involved. He done pulled an R-th, Ocho. Oh, man. Be excited. Because here's the thing, Ocho.

They're like, man, you don't put no black people on. Okay, we put black people on. Man, you should have... Everything ain't gonna always be perfect. It's not gonna always be perfect in order to put your people on. Right. We're trying to give people an opportunity. I've been very, very fortunate to be in a situation where the volume gave me an opportunity. And we've been able to build this thing from the ground floor and be able to help people.

We're able to do that with 520. We've been able to do that with Bubble Dub. Now we have humble baddies. Our goal now is to get three more. We're going out and we're scouting, we're looking, and we're going to try to bring three more up under the umbrella. Provide an infrastructure. Be able to produce this. This is your vision.

What do you want? But we believe we have the people in place. We have the distribution to help this thing grow to what you believe it can be. Right. I thought, oh well, so much. Did you put any

thought into that wilderness show? Me and you in the country, hunting, catching. Ocho, you ain't never shot a gun in your life. that's the whole point of having the show you teaching me how to hunt how to catch squirrels and

bears and deer and skin them and eat them so if we don't catch no food if we don't catch no fish, like we starve oh I'm not going to starve because I know how to fish, I know how to hunt so like it's like a wilderness, Punk and Ocho in the wilderness like Survivor.

Ocho, but here's the thing. When are we going to have time to shoot a show? Man, we got to find time, man. We got to find time. Ocho, you like having 50-11 jobs. I'm trying to scale back. No, I ain't trying to scale back jobs. I'm trying to scale back.

No, I ain't trying to scale back. I ain't trying to scale back. I'm trying to scale back. No. I mean, I'm about to have to hit the road. We about to have to go where? We just activated Florida, Illinois, Baltimore, Virginia. I'm about to have to hit the road for LaPortier.

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and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know.

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Now back to football. Are you worried about the Chiefs not playing ball for so long? No. I'm not. Listen, if you look at the college teams that all had a bye week, you saw what happened to them. That is not the same when it comes to NFL teams.

Players need that rest. If you really want the first piece so you can get that bye week, so players that are nicked up, they can heal up and be a little bit more healthy come time to the, not divisional round.

What round is that? It's the divisional. the, not divisional round. What round is that? It's the divisional. Oh, the divisional round. Yeah, this week we just wrapped up wild card. This is the final wild card. Now it's the divisional round. Hey, you get that one seed and you get that week off? Man, players love it. Love it.

Yes. Yep. It's uh but and plus they've been here Yes. Yep. It's a. But and plus they've been here. This is what they normally do. They normally have the one seat. So it is not like it's not something they're not used to. Now, last year was different.

They were the three seat. Ended up having to take their show on the road. But one thing we learned about the Kansas City Chiefs, it doesn't matter. They got one five. And as long as you got one five and you got Big Red and they call them plays, they're good. You got a chance. They're good. Adam Smith said, when

the Vikings needed Darnold, the most he vanished, 14-3 point of the season if you're going to Cancun a week after everyone else. He didn't have, you know, look, he didn't have a whole lot of time, but sometimes you just look. I mean, Sam Darnold is what Sam Darnold is. He's a guy. He's not going to make a whole lot of plays outside the play sheet.

What you call, he can operate. He's not like Lamar. He's not like Pat Mahomes. He's not like Josh Allen. He's not a Pat Mahomes. He's not like Josh Allen. He's not a guy that's going to be able to get off script, and if something breaks down, he's going to be able to make it work. That's not who he is, Ocho.

You got to understand that. Just understand who he is. He had a phenomenal season, but the question is, do you believe he can replicate that? Do you believe this was an anomaly or this is the new norm? I think it's a new norm. I think it's a new norm because of what he has around him.

I always say a quarterback is as good as his supporting cast unless you're a special tier one quarterback that can elevate the players around you regardless of who's on your team. As long as you got Addison and Hawkinson and Justin Jefferson and Aaron Jones, you will be just fine. What we got here? Justin Rodden. Vikings need to let Sam walk like they did Keenan. For Mike Evans should be all pro every year.

He's must see TV. NFL needs to add more spots to the roster. Well, I mean, they've added a slot. They take a fullback. Now it used to be two running backs and the fullback never got added. They have a slot DB. So, I mean, I I mean, they got what? They got edge rushers that used to be just D-ends.

It was two middle linebackers, three outside linebackers, two D-ends, three D-ends and three D-tackles. I think that's how it used to be, Ocho. With three safeties and three corners. I think that's how it was. But, you know, they did away. Even the Pro Bowl, Ocho,

they used to take three running backs. Like, okay, if you take three running backs, who block it? So you want Barry to block for Emory or you want Emory to block for Barry? You ain't about to get

into a rush yards. Right. Just saying. I'm just letting you know. You just know you're going to throw it. Mm-hmm. And it used to be

all the left tackles. Now, you know, you got a right tackle that can be an all-pro because it used to be all left tackles that were all pros

and left some right tackle that had some phenomenal season. Right. But for the most part, it was left tackles that were all pros unless some right tackle had some phenomenal season. But for the most part, it was left tackles. But now they take that. Walk Dog 44, Terrell Prime to hire y'all if he goes to the Cowboys. Hopefully he won't take the job. He ain't going to hire me.

He already know. I talked to him, but he know me. I want no part of coaching. Yes. On nobody's staff. Don't hire me. Let me come play for a veteran minimum. Samuel Griffin.

Hey, Nightcap. Just received some of the new Nightcap gear for my birthday. If you're a Bengals GM, would you trade Jamar Chase for Travis Hunter? Hell no. You need a guy that's going to produce the points. And you're not, ain't nobody going to trade you.

Ain't nobody going to trade. Because first of all, why would you do that? You weaken your offense if you do that. Like Ocho said, you try to make a deal to try to go get Jair. I mean, he's going to cost you. But no, I'm not trading Chase for Hunter.

Mario Rubio, Shannon, where would you rank in terms of tight end? Ocho, where would you land as all time receiver I'm top five that's my final last I'm going with that I'm 85th I don't know I'll let y'all rank all I know is I got everything I could out of my ability.

I played as hard as I can every time I could. Every time I stepped on the field, I tried to represent the Sharp family, my grandma, my family, my brother, my sisters. I tried to represent the Broncos or the Ravens. I tried to represent the fan base that I was representing. I got all I could. I squeezed this orange and got every drop and then when I couldn't have no more juice

I ate the orange and then I used the orange peel for zest I had nothing left so wherever the fan base want to rank me or whoever's ranking it, have at it but I love my career 7th round draft pick 7th round pick

from an HBCU Pro Football Hall of Fame. My number is up in the stadium with that crest beside it. I think I did okay. Whatever they say I am, I say top five, but if you want to say I'm somewhere between top ten,

I can deal with that too. Yeah. I don't... Jeton Justice, chat. My dog wags his tail when he sees, must be the dog person or something. Yep. I love animals. Animals love me.

Like I said, I'm going to give me a farm. I really want me a mini cow, a mini goat, a mini horse, and a raccoon. Well, if you're going to have a farm, you're going to need more than four animals. I ain't going to have that kind of farm. Well, you just said a farm. It's only one

kind of farm. No, no, no. That's a farm. You're talking about a ranch. Oh, you want a mini farm to go with your mini animals? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me like two, give me like an acre or two. Okay, okay. I like that. I like that. Huh? They got friends.

So the cow be a friend to the goat. The goat be a friend to the horse. Then I got to keep Titus because Titus is going to be chasing him. No, Teddy will chase him. Titus is going to be like, whatever. Right. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Doc, what it do?

Do you think you love animals so much because they show you unconditional love? I'm sure it's challenging trying to find someone who loves you as deeply and unconditionally as you want them to. I just, I mean, growing up around animals, Ocho, I've joe i've always i've always

i've always had this love with animals right i've always said that if i ever came into some money i'm gonna have me i'm gonna have pets i've had dogs since 1992 yeah um and then uh when i got an apartment they wouldn't let me have the dog because i had two rottweilers i let my sister take them and then uh at that point in time i started renting the house and so i've had i've had dogs we grew up with dogs my grandmother we had dogs now we didn't treat the dogs like like i treat my dogs now and you know peter don't get mad but they was tied up on the shed they wasn't walking around uh my grandfather my uncle them had hunting dogs that we had in pens.

They had black and tan. They had red bones, had blue ticks, tree walkers, things like that. Bloodhounds. Not a bloodhound. Mr. Grant Hunt had a bloodhound, but they had hunting dogs. My uncles and they were big hunters. My grandfather used to have dogs,

but I think he only had one by the time I was around named Joe boy. But I've always, I love pets. Yes. No matter. I mean, I yell at Titus and he gets upset and he'll go get his pen and I say, I'm sorry, bro. I ain't mean to yell at him. He come out. He just as happy.

Tandy don't care. You yell at Tandy. Tandy's like, go get, go with his pajamas on. He ain't pay you no attention. Right. You know what it is, Doc? I haven't devoted the kind of time to the relationship like I have other things.

That's my problem. That's it in a nutshell. I like that. That's it. That's it but you they try to Doc try to make me

get emotional Elijah Moses hey Uncle Nojo second day second day my 24 two days is my 24th birthday

can I get a shout out some advice for being in sports media if the Eagles don't win the Super Bowl does Saquon not getting the record more of a disappointment? Well,

happy early birthday. Hopefully you do something fun. You got something mapped out. Bro, when you get into this space, just understand what you're going to have to sacrifice. You see, sports are played on the weekends. They're also played during the holidays. Are you going to be okay being away from your family? Is that okay?

Sometimes people forget that. Like, I want to do this the x y and z but do you understand what comes along with x y and z yeah they're gonna have to be sacrifices that you're gonna have to make and if you're not willing to make that sacrifice you don't deserve to be successful so that's that's what i tell people that want to get into the media space is that you do understand that sports happen on the weekend, holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year. Are you willing to give that up? Are you willing to sacrifice that? Then do your partner understand

that that's what you're going to have to sacrifice? So, yeah, it're going to have to sacrifice? So, yeah, it's going to be more disappointing if they don't win the Super Bowl. Hell, it's going to be disappointing if he didn't win the Super Bowl because I believe you could have had both. See, they're not mutually exclusive. That don't mean because if he got the record, he wouldn't win

the Super Bowl. And if he won the Super Bowl, he could have got the record. Why couldn't he get both? He could have. Yes. Yes. Yes. Tremendous said, hey, Uncle Nocho, tomorrow's also my birthday. Can I get a shout out? Also, do you believe

certain quarterbacks like Lamar only get judged by what they do in the playoffs? Tremendous. Happy birthday, man. Early birthday. If you're on the East Coast, it's your birthday now. No. All quarterbacks that's lamar caliber get judged by what they do in the playoffs because that's the ultimate test it's a playoff that's the that's the the highest test that you can take oh joey's like you're you're uh you're a fourth year law student yeah and you got to take the highest test you know you got to pass the bar the playoffs is the bar and you keep to take the highest chance to, you know, you got to pass the bar. The playoffs

is the bar. And you keep taking it and taking it until you pass it. So no, Lamar's going to get judged just like Seven Elway got judged. All the quarterbacks get judged, especially, bro, you realize

Lamar, I believe he's going to be a three-time league MVP? Crazy work. Three. Yes. Yes. Randy, Alana's. Uncle Nocho, my lady's birthday.

Her name is Elizabeth. Would you guys please give her a shout out? She's a real one. Also, when do the tickets for the show at the Draft in Green Bay go on sale? We'll get to that. Happy birthday, Elizabeth. Randy wanted us to shout you out, let you know you're a real one, that you're down, you hold him down.

And he greatly, greatly appreciates that. And we appreciate you watching, Randy. Hopefully you have Elizabeth watching us with it. No tickets at this point, right? No tickets at this point. Yeah, we will be live, but we'll let you know what's going on, Randy, as

it gets, look, we're going to know something here in the next month. We're not going to leave you high and dry, Randy. We promise. We promise. Thank you, guys. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for watching. We promise. We promise. Thank you, guys. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for watching. Y'all know me.

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27-9, the Rams defense sacked Sam Donald nine times, forced a fumble, scoop and score as they went going away 21-9. The Vikings finished the season 14-4. The Rams move on to face the Eagles on Sunday. Should be a very interesting game. Thank you for joining us for Nightcap. I'm Unc.

He's Ocho. We will see you Wednesday night. Thank you again for joining us. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The Volume. me. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.