Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Andre Johnson on "the fight", Deion Sanders content, Eric Kendricks on Cowboys

Episode Date: September 28, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" are joined by Andre Johnson, who breaks down what led to “the fight” with Cortland Finnegan. Later, Deion "Coach Prime" Sanders says he has no interest in coaching in the NFL, Eric Kendricks talks about transitioning into playing for Dallas Cowboys and much more!03:18 - Andre Johnson breaks down what led up to “the fight” with Cortland Finnegan09:30 - Demeco Ryans talks CJ Stroud’s growth process that led to a special season16:00 - Deion Sanders has no interest coaching in the NFL19:41 - Raheem Morris talks why the quarterback message was clear coming in.23:38 - Eric Kendricks talks transition to playing for the Cowboys(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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your name is the first name to get brought up man um I always tell the story about when I went to my first Pro Bowl uh the guy it was some guy he worked with the NFL and he was like who the hell is here from the Houston Texans and that's something that always stuck with me um and I put that chip on my shoulder and I was like, shit, I'm going to make people respect us. You know, and that was the way I played. That was just the way I carried myself. And, you know,

to have this Hall of Fame thing happen, it wasn't just for me, man. It was about this whole city. The actual first player in the Houston Texans to go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What did that, when you got the call, and it says, they knock on the door, Andre Johnson, welcome to football heaven. You've been selected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I mean, Shannon, you've had that knock. So I don't think words can really describe it. If you, like, I had to take a moment to literally go sit on my couch, you know, and I had my hands in my head. And I just, you know, to be, it's been over 30,000 guys that play this game. There's only 378 people in the Hall of Fame. That's one. There's not even 1% That's correct To be mentioned with that man. That's that's the special Ain't gonna lie man just having you here and enjoying this with you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Appreciate it.

Appreciate it. Appreciate it. A lot of people really don't know, man, how far we go back, bro. Way, way back. Way back. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it, for those of you that don't know, Dre and I used to train in off-season during our day when we were playing. Me, Tanner Mann, Tony O'Brown, Crazy Ass.

Who else we had out there, man? Man, it was a lot of us. It was a lot of us. So, you know, it was a certain connection that we all kept, like we was family. You know, obviously,

we all played on different teams, but everybody from that area, we all got back together, and we always, man, shit, worked our ass off in the offseason, man. And it's awesome. You know, as someone that has always looked up to you, even from afar, during the times we were all so close, man, I'm proud of you. I appreciate it.

I'm really proud of you. Appreciate it. Dre, you had some unbelievable games in the Hall of Fame, the first Houston Texan player ever selected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But I'm pretty sure they showed on your highlight clip that fight. Oh, I forgot about that. I knew that was coming. I had only met you once.

I came here early in your career. And as a matter of fact, I think Kool was the coach. He was the coach. And you were very quiet, and you're still quite quiet. And I remember that happening. And I'm like, what did this man say to get him? He don't even talk, let alone fight. What did he say

To get you so like You like F it I'm in Liberty City right now I'm swinging bro Nah It had been going on For about three years

Damn You done had it built up That long Yeah Yeah It had been going on for about three years. Man, I never shared this story with nobody, but because we all night, Cap up and give it to us.

There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, there we go. So, Chad, you remember Club Play? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, old Chris style. Yeah, yeah.

So, man, this is no lie. Like, they're driving up to the club. It's my little brother and Rudy. My brother's sitting in the passenger seat. Rudy's in the back seat. And we're all pulling up in valet, and they jump out the car while the car's moving right and I'm like what the hell y'all doing they was like there you go so I'm like what are y'all talking about it's Cortland he's standing at the front door of the

club right I didn't even see him they wanted to get on him right then and And I'm like, nah, we're not doing that. You know what I'm saying? So that happened like a year prior. So I don't know, man. We was up 20 to nothing. And I told Coop, I was like, hey, man, I'm finna beat his ass. Normally coaches call plays for the player. The player called a play. Coach, I'm going to beat his ass on one.

Ready? Break. So that was just it, man. I just had enough of the stuff he was doing. So it was mainly cheap shots, not so much talking. It was the cheap 30s. No, no, no. The talking, you could talk all day.

I don't give a damn about talking. Right. But it was the cheap things he would do at the place. Okay. Yeah. Y'all cool now? Y'all cool now?

I don't know. I ain't never seen, I seen him one time since that whole situation, so I don't know. But after that, he ain't cheap shot you no more huh no he ain't gonna do that

i don't coach obviously you've been around the game of football for a very long time for those that are on the outside looking in i don't think they understand how special a season that was for you to have obviously you understand the difficulty when you draft a rookie quarterback and understanding you have a program that is trying to build itself back to winning consistently and to be able to have a successful season obviously not winning a championship but still having a successful season knowing that you can build off of that do you understand how great your season was last year yeah i do understand it all like it all starts with, like you said, the rookie quarterback. Everybody now, they expect rookies to come in and just ball out from the start.

That doesn't happen. Right. Like, especially at the quarterback position, you got to have a special person to do that. And, you know, we were fortunate enough to get CJ at number two, and this kid is special. Yes. Definitely.

Definitely. You know, he's fun to work with. And he didn't start off that way. Like, we didn't. We started off with a rough season. Like, we had to go through some growing pains. And he learned a lot. Our team learned a lot of how we had to play to win games.

And that growth process throughout the season, that made it even more special to know we didn't just come out just beating people. And I told our guys, too, you know, we talk about how special of a season it was. You look up, we had I think it was ten games that were in the last minute of the game. We were right in the game. And I think we won seven of those ten in the last minute of the game. So that just shows the margin for error in this league. It's still tight, even though it's a great season.

But, man, I tell our guys, you have to work hard. You got to grind those wins, and you got to be smart in those situational moments to close games out. There was an issue, obviously, with Brian Flores and Tua and the way he talked to him. Obviously, it rubbed Tua the wrong way. And I just want to know, how do you navigate being able to coach certain players certain ways? And how do you approach it?

Because some players, you can coach hard. You know, you understand those that are built like that. You can coach them a little harder. Some of them, you got to pat them on the back and guide them. How have you been able to do that with your players? Yeah, man, that's a great question. I was just talking to one of my coaches about that earlier today. Man, you have to have a relationship with guys.

Like if you don't have a relationship with guys, then you don't know how that guy is going to respond. Right? Some guys I can coach hard. Some guys I know like, ah, man, I can get it out of him, but I don't need to go as hard with him. I just got to tell him, hey, man, you're doing a great job. Hey, keep it going, young fella.

We're going to get there. But if you don't establish that relationship outside of football, like you just got to sit down, you got to eat with guys, you got to meet with guys, just talk to them one-on-one, like what's going on outside of football so you can really get to know that young man and what's going on in his life. Like, that's how you are able to relate to guys and coach. Like, now once you get that relationship, I can coach him up hard. Right, right. Right? But everybody, you can't coach hard. Everybody doesn't need hard coaching.

But as a coach, it's our job, right? And that's one thing I learned about coaching. I thought, man, when I finished playing, I thought I was going to hop in. Like, hey, Kyle, I can come coach the linebackers right now. Right. But that's what I learned when I was in San Fran I truly learned like man you got every guy is different how do you teach every guy right every guy learns different every guy you got to explain things differently and they pick it up different so for me that's where I learned like man you have to be adaptable as a coach right, but you gotta know these guys outside of football

You know go ahead give it up to a Lot of times sometimes coaches try to hide hard coaching behind disrespect It's like if I'm working for you. I want you to coach me hair And I want you to say what I'm doing wrong, but there's a very very fine line between hard coaching and disrespect. Now, guys have to understand, that's a grown man you're talking to. This ain't college. He's not trying to get

to the NFL. He's already here. He's not in high school trying to get to college, so those guys, you can coach, I mean, when we grew up, coaches cussed us out, all kind of things. You do that now, you're going to turn a guy off, or the guy might want to fight you.

He might want to fight you, or he might just leave. It's a different era, and I've never tried to cross the lines of cursing guys out. I feel like if I have to curse you out, I got the wrong guy. Correct. First off, right? We don't have time for that. Like we're men, we're working together. And I tell our guys, my first meeting was like, this is what you can expect from our coaches. Our coaches are going to be respectful.

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I would never do pros. Uh-uh. I don't believe that. That's a lie. I don't believe that. Prime, you are the very, listen to me. Stay with me, baby. You are the very person who had a song called

Must be the money that i'm straight and if and if they show you if they show you that money over there in la guess where we gonna be at notice i said we guess where we gonna be at i'm so glad you said that so let me address this one thing at a time must be be the money was a testimony. I wasn't bragging about the money. I was saying must be the money that's turning y'all on. I said Diamond Rolex, Gators on my feet. I got a pair every day of the week. My hat's done.

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God has provided everything I need, man. I'm having the time of my life. I love going to Colorado. I love the kids that I get to coach. I love the recruiting process. I love it. I like the way it sounds. And I like the purity of the young men.

Yes, sir. You know, I like the sensitivities and I like all the amateurism of it, even though it's turning to pros because everybody want a bag now. But I would have a hard time in a locker room with a guy that's making a multitude of millions and he don't want to play. I don't want to give

his all. I would have a problem with that, Chad. A real problem with that. And you know, we had teammates like, I can't do that. Yeah. And I've been trying to tell Ocho Ocho, he ain't never played with nobody like that. And you know, we had teammates like, I can't do that. Yeah. And I've been trying to tell Ocho. Ocho said he ain't never played with nobody like that. Yes, he did. He just didn't want to see it. Wait, they just played for the money? Played for

the money, just didn't really want to give it their all, just wouldn't want to play. They had a lot of talent and they just messed it around. Well, messed it around by doing things off the field. Not on the field. And on the field.

Just don't want to do right. Yeah, see, I ain't pay attention like that, honestly. I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't going to lie to you. And I don't want you in L.A. You can't be in L.A. Yeah, first of all, L.A. too expensive for me. You know how cheap I am.

I'm not getting a house. I don't like California. Right. I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm trying to get closer to Shannon so he can take you. I want to say. Shannon don't want us closer to him. You haven't got that hint? Have he ever invited you anywhere

to California? No. He don't even answer my damn text message. Thank you. I'll meet you somewhere if you get there. Then he's going to be evasive on getting there based on what's in there. Right. Right. That's whoasive on getting there based on what's in there. That's who he is. You ain't know who he is.

He don't want us there. First of all, he need to get his butt back in Atlanta. That's what he need to do. No, I don't need to be back in Atlanta. No, I don't. You said you were taking me to the place with the booty juice. Magic soup. First of all,

you still got your house there? You got a house there. You don't invite nobody and don't even let nobody use it. That's selfish. That's why I call him selfish all of that. He's selfish. Can I use it for Airbnb? I talked to Magic. I talked to Magic.

First of all, Magic is a hero. A national treasure. Let's get that right. Magic ain't one of the games. Still looking good. Still fly. Magic in. Magic. First of all, Magic is a hero, a national treasure. Let's get that right. Magic. Magic ain't one of the games. Still looking good. Still fly. Magic is still Magic. You're talking about somebody that should have a movie, a documentary done?

Yeah. Yeah. Magic changed everybody's life. Yeah. And just talk game. I mean, Magic just taught you game and all that, man. I love Magic. You know, when you talk about quarterbacks,

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I think the message was clear coming in. It was open. It was honest. It was clear. Kirk's our starter. Kirk's going to take us to places that we want to go to. Mike is going to come in and he's going to watch what it looks like, what it feels like. He wants to see what it looked like when you had your quarterbacks in your day with John Elway. He wants to see what it looked like you didn't have no quarterbacks, watch what it looks like, what it feels like. He wants to see what it looked like when you had your quarterbacks

in your day with John Elway. He wants to see what it looked like. You ain't having the quarterbacks, but what it looked like to go out there. You've won Super Bowls at two different stops. You've been an assistant of a lot of different head coaches. What is the common denominator between winning and losing? The people. It's the people first business in everything we do. When you were a Raven, I watched it live in hand. I came into that stadium and I watched the confidence in the people.

I watched Ray Lewis talk smack. I watched you talk smack. And we went there like, man, we about to beat them. And then y'all let us know after the game that y'all wasn't. And it was the people that was involved with the organizations. It was all about that. And here we're building a people-first business. And we're doing it with us. We're doing it with our people, with our fans. And, like, I just think that's just the messaging. Like, you got to have that type of mentality.

It's got to be a people-first mentality. It has to be at all times in everything we do. We're talking about with the fans. We're talking about with our community. we're talking about with the fans we're talking about with our community we're talking about in the building we're talking about with myself and terry fontenot and our relationship arthur blink and how he communicates with everybody how we go about our whole process it's the people it's the people it's simple obviously you had other opportunities how do you convince coaches that look like you that don't feel like that opportunity is ever going to come.

Because you had, think about it, there was a 15-year gap between the time that you were the head coach until you got it again. And you had interviews. And did you ever think, like, man, I don't know if I'm going to ever get another chance to be a head coach again. So you ready, Shannon? It's real simple for me, right? I was a 32-year-old head coach. And I did it again. And people were telling me, you should have had it a long time ago. I don't give a damn what you people were saying.

I'm going to work for it. I'm going to go get it. And when it happens, I'm going to be ready. So I'm going to keep developing my skill set that when it happens again, there's going to be no denying on what you can and how you're going to be able to do it and go about your business. And I don't give a damn what color I am.

Results don't know color. I like it. You look at what you've done. You've got Grady Jarrett. You bring him back. You sign Justin Simmons. You sign Matthew Judon. You just gave AJ Terrell a boatload of money you secure locked him up I drafted him to don't forget yeah you did you did draft him so what is the expectations of

this defense considering you've got guys that have been Pro Bowls that have been to the all-pro AJ Terrell is one of the better young corners in the league and we know you Gertie Jared is one of the outstanding defensive linemen in the league what What is the expectation? That's your area of expertise. As you know, as you know, it's really simple, right? Stats are for losers. Yes. There are expectations that go out there and beat dogs, right? We got to find ways to affect the quarterback

and make them just feel uncomfortable at all times. And once you find a way to make them uncomfortable and you dominate rundowns and you get the ball back, then just go watch our offense shine. Right? That's what winning teams do. That's how you form your identity. That's how you make things move.

That's how the needle moves. And the next thing, you talking about it on your shows about the stats. We don't care about none of that. We care about the dog mentality it's going to take to get there. That's what our goal is. That's what the expectations are. If I'm going to be. What's up, what?

What's up? I'm trying to get comfortable right now. You good? I'm good. All right. Tell us about the transition to becoming a cowboy. Crazy. What's it been like?

It's different. You know, football is crazy out here. You know, I hear about Texas football. I'm from California. Right. There's good football out there, but, you know, football is different in Texas, for sure. A little bit more, you know,

more on the pedestal. A little bit more pressure. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Play for the Vikings, the Seahawks, if I'm not mistaken.

No, my brother played for the Seahawks. Okay, that's your brother. But I played for the Chargers. Chargers. Yeah. You reunited with Sam, right? Okay, that's your brother. But I played for the Chargers. Chargers. Yeah. You reunited with Zim, right? So how has being reunited with a former coach, because obviously you know this defense,

and so you've been able to partake some of the wisdom, the keys, of where guys need to be, what Zim is looking for in a particular defense. So tell us about somewhat being a coach on the field. Yeah, you know, I feel like at first, you know, we're all trying to learn the basics, you know. I mean, obviously I have a little bit of a head start, but a coach on the field. Yeah, you know, I feel like at first, you know, we're all trying to learn the basics. You know, I mean, obviously I have a little bit of a head start, but everybody's learning the basics. You know, we're trying to get the concepts down. They kind of carry over to different coverages.

You know, we can run split coverages, things like that. But, you know, I feel like with Zim's defense, it's always about like, you know, the player is taking a little bit of ownership, too. You know what I mean? We have to be at – we're the ones that are quarterbacking it out there. So, you know, at some point, you know, we got to be the one making the calls and checks and be confident when we're doing so. And I feel like now that's, you know, we obviously were in camp for a month and stuff like that,

but now we're transitioning and we're about to play this first game. And I feel like now we're starting to transition into having that confidence where everybody's kind of like, oh, okay, we're running this now. Let's run this now. So it's been a lot of fun. And obviously we have different pieces than I had in Minnesota.

But the heart of the scheme is the same. Listen, Zim was the defensive coordinator of Cincinnati when I was there. So Zim is really cool. He cursed a goddamn lot. He cursed a lot. But what is your expectations, your personal goals for you throughout this season or this upcoming season, your own personal goals? My personal goals is to be, you know, the, the, just the, the voice that everyone can count on,

you know, the, just the, you know, the constant communicator, you know, be, be overdoing my communication to the fact that we're all on the same page. You know, I want to definitely be the anchor right there. Um, but shoot, you know, I want to definitely be the anchor right there. But shoot, you know, I just want to just keep stacking these years. I feel like, you know, 100 plus, you know, three and something. You know, I don't want to, you know, get too specific. I write them down and everything like that. But, you know, I want to win a Super Bowl, man.

That's why you play. You know, it's cliche, but, you know, my brother won one. Right. I got kind of close, but, you know, not really. You know, so I want, but, you know, my brother won one. Right. I got kind of close, but, you know, not really. So I want to get it going. Right. Obviously, like, you played this game a long time, and there are always surprises that when you come in,

there's a rookie that comes in that stands out, and you're like, okay, be it offense or defense, you're like, he can play. And he's going to play. He's going to make plays for us, and he's going to be big for us. Who surprised you in this rookie class that you're like, okay, be it offense or defense, that he can play? Yeah, one of my linebackers, you know, Maris, you know,

he's a kid from Hawaii, you know, went to Notre Dame. I don't know which round he got drafted. You know, I kind of disconnect myself from that. But he came in. You know, he's obviously learning. He's a very humble kid, quiet. But he knows his role. You know what I mean?

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