Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Anthony Edwards says they’ve done nothing yet, Caleb Williams tried to avoid being drafted by the Bears!

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & former champion Shawn “Matrix” Marion react to Anthony Edwards says they’ve done nothing yet, a potential trade of Alpren Sengun for Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Caleb Williams tried to avoid being drafted by the bears & much more!01:47 - Antman says the Wolves havent done anything yet05:24 - Rockets in the market to trade Shingun for Giannis09:47 - Caleb Williams29:28 - Colts social team only posting throws of Jones40:12 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Man, listen. Listen, Denver and OKC, OK pull this out. That OKC and Minnesota series is going to be ridiculous. I think it goes seven games. I think it goes seven.

So the X factor for that series will be um oh, it's going to be, so the X factor for that, for that series will be, um, oh, what's her name? Uh, I'm freaking. Jane Daniels?

No, left-handed, left-handed. Uh, I just talked, oh, brain freeze, brain freeze.

Um, who? Oh, Mike Conley? No, Julius Randle. Oh, Julius Randle.

Julius Randle's going to be the X factor in that series because, I'm going to say this, the two seven-footers will cancel out each other with Nas Reed and Rudy Goldberg. Oh, Drew Rab a little bit. I think over, nah, just slightly, maybe. But nah, I'm putting Chad, I'm putting Chad on Gobert. I'm letting Hartenstein, who's a little bigger body, a little bigger body, I'm going to let him. But Chad can't bang with Julius. No. No, but. Too light, too light.

Too light. But I mean, but Julius put the ball in the four too much for the other guys. So they ain't going to be able to guard him on the perimeter. Yeah, definitely. I think the Wolves and... So Shea and Ant-Man are going to cancel each other out.

Yeah. And then we're going to have to see Jalen Williams, Jaden McDaniels, how those guys, how those guys, how do they perform? Conley and Brown,

how do they perform? It's going to be interesting. Well, we're already picking that OKC going to beat them. But, I mean, Denver predicated it. Gordon ain't hurt. If he hurt now, I mean. Yeah, all bets are on for me, too. I agree with that.

If he's hurt, all bets are on for me. Yeah, yeah, but Denver is tough, though. Denver can be, Denver can fuck around, pull his shit up. They pulled this off. Shit, man. It's going to be tough if somebody beat them, too. It's going to be tough. I mean, listen, they got, I mean, like I

said before, I think Murray and Joker are two special guys, and they got closer. Most teams in the league now only got one closer. And they got two. They got two guys that can finish you off. Is Ant-Man the next face of the NBA? I mean, if he wants it, I think he can be. and they got two. Yeah, they got two guys that can finish you off. Yep.

Is Ant-Man the next face of the NBA? I mean, if he wants it, I think he can be. I mean, I think, I mean, but... You said something interesting. You said if he wants it. If he wants it. But I think, I mean, right now, usually the face of the NBA

is who's always on all the commercials. Who's on all the commercials right now? Jason Tiggins. Yeah. So he's in that spot already. I mean, it is what it is. all the commercials. Who's all the commercials right now? Jason Tiggins. Yeah. So, so he didn't, he, he's in that spot already.

I mean, it is what it is, but you know, Ant-Man, listen, he's a savage and he got a great personality. I just love his work ethic and I love his mentality, man.

I do too. I think it's, uh, I love guys who don't, who, who, who just want, he won't,

he don't, he ain't ducking nobody. And I love that. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, whoever's in front of me, let's go. Let ain't ducking nobody. And I love that. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, whoever's in front of me, let's go. Let's go. But it may the best man win that day. Well, I mean, I think Ant-Man's in this pair of commercials too.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I definitely think those two are in the lion's share of the commercials going on. Yeah, but they was in more NBA commercials. Huh? They was in of the commercials going on. Yeah, but they've been missing more than NBA commercials. Huh? They've been missing more than NBA commercials. Yeah. We'll get you out of here with this one.

The Rockets are reportedly open to trade at Afrin Sungun for a deal for Giannis. The prospect of adding Giannis in the blockbuster deal viewed as intriguing within the Rockets organization. It's going to take more than Shingun to get in. Is it? I mean, hell yeah. To get Giannis? What's the salaries?

What, Giannis? He's about to end a three-year deal, $175,000? It starts next year, three years, $175,000. But what's Shingun make? What's Shingun make? I don't know what his salary is. Man, Shingun probably made $30,000. No, he didn't get paid. He got paid, didn't he? $30, mil is getting paid,

uh, Matrix, damn. Yeah, yeah. You make a fee that he working for minimum wage.

He got more than that. No, no, 37. Okay, okay, he got 37,

almost 40. I mean, so they gonna throw somebody else in that deal. Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised they would

throw, uh, Jalen Green in that deal. I, I told Ocho that. Ocho looked at me like I had seven heads. Hey, yeah.

You think they'll keep Thompson over Green? Hell yeah. Damn. Hell yeah. Yeah, I would. I love Jalen. You're a 3MD guy. I love Jalen, but yeah.

I mean, I like, look, I think Jalen Green is amazing. I mean, you see game two, he dropped 38. But he's too inconsistent. And what I need now in order to win a championship is consistency. And I think Almond Thompson gives me more consistency. So you can always... So yes, I do think they would part. I do think they would part with Jalen Green.

I think Jalen Green can be a part. Once he gets that consistency down, I think he's going to be okay because he's a hell of an offensive player. He can shoot the three. He can play above the rim. He can work on his middie, but okay. He can get to the hole. But Armin Thompson right now, Ocho, I think Shingun and Green and some draft picks.

Dang it. I'm just saying, listen, I really thought Young Bull was the future. You know, just maybe not of the league, but the future for the Houston Rockets. And taking that next step and evolving to being one of the better players. I mean, yeah, but you got to look at it from this standpoint. You talking about getting Giannis at 30 years old and, you know what I'm saying?

And, you know, I say you got to try to capitalize on the window he got of being in his prime to winning that championship. So if you can get, if you can make that happen and get him down there and you can you can find you can find some of the pieces to put around him and like keep keep the keep that veteran van fleet down there and uh thomas and a couple of man listen i'm like uncle jeffy down there too uncle jeff down there man you know oh yeah yeah yeah jeff jeff good for a roster saw another veteran guy down there if

you're gonna stick around and uh man i'm, I'm telling you, they can make something happen out there. They was really good this year. Man, listen, man, they did a great job down there. You know what I'm saying? And I was happy to see them do that. I was optimistic. They probably could have beat Golden State, but they just weren't disciplined enough.

And they ain't had no closer. They don't have a closer. Nope. They have no closer. They're by committee. They're by committee team. Yeah. Alright, Matrix, we're going to tell the people what they can find you at on social

media. IGX. Matrix 31, I think is on everything. That's what's up. So, hey, make sure y'all go follow Matrix 31 on IG, Facebook, X, what, TikTok? What else they got? I don't even do TikTok. I got one, but I don't even do it really, though. Facebook X what TikTok what else do you got

I don't even do TikTok I got one but I don't even do it really though you ain't got no TikTok I do but I don't do it man I'll be oh you got Snapchat I do got Snapchat but don't be calling me on Snapchat

so hey y'all make sure y'all got y'all make sure y'all go follow Sean Mary in the Matrix hey Matrix thanks for joining us giving us a little bit of your time tonight. We appreciate it.

Check back in with us when you get some free time, bro. Will do. Will do. Appreciate you guys, man. I always love. Have a good one, man. Keep it up. Keep it up.

That was Sean Mary, a four-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA champion with the Dallas Mavericks. One of the great two-way players, 3 and D guy, turned himself, had a very unorthodox shot, but it went in. So it doesn't matter how pretty the shot is, it doesn't go in. I've seen some pretty guys that miss all the time. Oh, Joe, in the book, American Kings, a biography of the quarterback, author ESPN's reporter Seth Wickersham describes how Caleb Williams was so concerned about being drafted by the Bears that he and his family weigh in, circumventing the entire NFL draft.

They spoke to lawyers to find a way around the league's CBA and considered signing in the UFL. Chicago is the place where quarterbacks go to die. Carl Williams, who's his dad, said ahead of the draft, according to the book. In addition, none of the Bears coaches last season told Caleb Williams to watch film or give him zero help. No one tells me what to watch. I just turn it on.

Ocho? Yeah. What do you make about that revelation? I mean, it's obviously, I mean, you look at what the, what has happened to all the quarterbacks who have been a part of the Bears organization, and you can understand why Caleb Williams and his father felt that way. Yes.

Looked that way for a reason, you know? Look how they treated everybody that's come through that organization that has played the position. And the quarterbacks that did have success, they had success simply because the defenses in Chicago at the time were amazing. Really good. So all you had to do was just facilitate and don't turn the ball over, and defense would take care of everything else. Yes. I think Caleb Williams is in a great situation now,

especially with the supporting cast they have around him, the addition of Ben Johnson and the rest of the coaches on that staff. I think this is going to be the Bears' best year yet, and they're going to surprise a lot of people. Every football season, the main guns are always in contention. Your Eagles, your Bills, your Ravens, Bengals, if we start off to a fast start, your Chiefs, your Lions. And for some reason, I don't know why,

and you can quote me on this, and that goes for everybody else in the chat. The Bears will be in contention and one of those teams buying for a playoff spot and challenging for Lombardi simply because of not just the quarterback play, but with a great understanding of what Ben Johnson and his offensive creativity can do for a skill set, for the skill set that Caleb Williams has. And I'm going out on a limb and I'm saying that because I saw what he did in Detroit with Jerry Goff.

Yeah. And he has a more athletic. Look, I'm not surprised by this. Carl Williams, who's Caleb Williams' father, it is his job to protect his son and put him in the best possible situation. I don't have any problem with that because he said, look, you look at all the quarterbacks,

Mitchell Trubisky, you look at Justin Fields, you look at Rex Grossman, you look at all the quarterbacks they've had, they haven't had any luck with the quarterbacks. No. It is what it is. I mean, and so he's well within his right

to make sure that he's trying to put his son, his son is going to the best situation that gives him the best chance to succeed. Now, what do you think about the watching film, the coaches not giving him any direction? I don't know. That's tough right there, especially at that position.

Before you touch the field, the only way to prepare is by watching film on your opponents and knowing what you're going to see, you know, day to day, week to week. So it's hard for me to believe that there is no instruction in that area, especially for the most important position on the field, who has to know everything that's going on, especially your opponent. So that's it. I don't know that that's a little tricky. I think maybe they thought you were quarterback, played in the top five program. You got that where you were the USC.

Maybe they just took for granted because Cause a lot of times they, they take for granted, like, bro, you played a big time program, bro. I ain't got to go over that. We can go ahead,

skip that step and start getting to something else. Right now. I just want to say this for us, for me, the way we got tape cut up. So Joe, it was first and third, first one, a third and one to three

third and three to five third and long but we had cut ups cover one cover two cover three cover four two man

cover six you know whatever the case may be so it was broken down so we watching it and so we see this is what they do in cover three

this is the front they give us. This is the coverage they play behind set front. Yeah. I don't know. And like I said, I think maybe it was a situation they thought he already knew how to watch film. Everybody, I didn't know how to watch film because we really didn't have to watch film, Ocho.

Hell, if HBCU playing, man, coverage, hell, what the hell you think you gonna get? It wasn't nobody disguising. It wasn't no cover two. It wasn't no single high. It wasn't no six kick. It wasn't about the disguise it wasn't no cover two it wasn't no single high it wasn't no six kick it wasn't no 88 it wasn't no box post

it wasn't none of that right it was man mhm I would have expected to be man right so

I need to people to tell what he doing why he ain't I'm literally asking why he ain't got me man what he doing right right right ain't play? Ocho, I'm literally asking, why he ain't got me man? What he doing? Right,

right, right. But nah, it's cover two. What the hell is cover two? Mm-hmm. So, they had to break me

all the way down in order to build me back up. I got it. And nobody made me feel stupid that I didn't know. They know I went to a program, I went to an HBCU, Ocho.

We ain't got, we didn't have receiver coach, tight end coach. We didn't have all that. Yeah. No. And that's one of the things that I really enjoyed, Unc, that it's not glorified on my end

because of my style of playing, the way I play the game. Yeah. But I was a student of the game, Unc. Yeah. That's a a student of the game. That's a part of it that people didn't even realize I wasn't able to go out there and do what I did by not studying like a goddamn nerd, you know, because it's overshadowed by the fun and the entertainment and the

celebrations and the flamboyancy and all the, all the shit talking. But dude, but when it was time to watch film, oh my goodness, I needed to know everything. I needed to know everything. I needed to know everything. I needed to know what they—Travis was our person who broke down our film for me.

He was our camera guy, our video guy in the department. I had him break down all the clips of the previous four games of the individual. You know I got the number one corner every goddamn game. Travis, I did everything on first, second, and third down, right? On these down and distances. In our area, before we get across the 50

and when we cross the 50, what they like to do. What coverage am I going to get? Is he going to bump? Is he going to play man? I'm looking at everything. Is he a shade inside? Is he head up?

Does he like outside leverage? You know, when a safety comes in? I'm looking at everything. Is he a shade inside? Is he head up? Does he like outside leverage? You know, when a safety comes in? I'm talking about everything. I can tell you. I can tell you based on down and distance. I can tell you what they're going to run when I'm coming out the huddle. Yeah. And I know it.

And I knew it. That's why I had such a confidence in my approach to the game. Because I studied like a goddamn, like a nerd. That's the only reason where that confidence came from. It wasn't about my talent or my skill or, you know, me running routes and just, I know what you're doing before you even do it at the snap of the ball. And that just, oh, my God, man. Now, towards the end of my career, when my body wasn't able to react, you know, the way it was when I was in my prime, being able to study film and knowing what was happening before it happened gave me a little bit of an edge when I might have lost a step a little bit.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I think that's the thing. You look at down and distance. I mean, we going over what they like to do in down and distance, what they like to do in red zone, what they like to do back. They got you backed up.

This is the coverage they like to play. But that was always on the tape. Yeah. And so I'm looking, and so, like I said, guys, look, I'm not trying to belittle anybody. I'm just saying maybe they thought this is something that he already knew. And so they didn't give him the instructions that he need me i'm looking at it from the way we had it in denver it was broken down you plug yeah hey 31 to 3 cover 1 every time 31 to 3 cover 2 31 to 3 quarters 31 to three six two man okay third and five third and long backed up midfield

red zone hey when they play eight okay nickel we will get eight this is the coverage that eight they're gonna play a handful of coverage they're not gonna get all that get to be exotic they like things that they might do a couple of things that they try to going to get all that, get too exotic. They like things, they like to do a couple of things that try to catch you off guard. But when they're in nickel defense, this is what they like to play. Yeah. Made for This Mountain

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it works because, you know, you study coverages and you study things that teams like to do, but they had the personnel, the goddamn Ravens and the goddamn Steelers during the two thousands. Yeah. They got exotic, man.

And they doing all type of exotic shit. That was Rick Ryan. That's Rick Ryan. That's Rick Ryan, especially. On where your camera go? I'm off. I'm off. Yeah, I can't see you. I'm going to wait until you come back.

Okay. Well, anyway, chat, listen. The goddamn Ravens and the Steelers from the 2000, that 2000 era, all that cover too. And they had all type of exotic stuff that just it was like it was confusing. So no matter how much film you watch, there was no telling what you're going to get on game day. I come out the goddamn huddle, you know, my split tight. I'm looking at I'm looking at the safety. What a goddamn safety yet? Hey, I'm looking goddamn Troy Pol I'm looking at the safety. Where the goddamn safety at?

Hey, I'm looking goddamn Troy Palomaro in the goddamn A-gap. What in the fuck is you doing in the goddamn A-gap? So I'm hype. I'm thinking, I'm looking at Carson. I'm hitting Carson over there. Yee-hee. Because I'm thinking it's just me and Ike Taylor one-on-one. Man, I'm looking inside at the snap of the ball.

I look back up. I'm running my route. This goddamn Troy done got way back to the goddamn third at the snap of the ball. Yep. Like, man, what is you doing? That damn Ed Reed, Unc. Yeah. He playing safety.

He all the way in the back like it's pump return. Yep. What you doing like it's puppy turn. Yep. What you doing? It's third down. So, Ed is doing the opposite of what most safeties do. They sit there and they backpedal back. Ed playing the game the

opposite way. He start back and come forward. Yep. I love playing the Raiders and the Chiefs because you ain't getting my man coverage. Well, the Raiders, man to man. Chiefs, man to man. And they right in your face. Dale Carter and James Hasty, right here.

And they had Alvin Lewis and Kevin Ross. And with the Raiders, they had Washington and they had T-Mac, Terry McDaniel. Right there. They right there. You know what you're getting. Every time.

Mike come in and say it's real simple this week, guys. You got to be man coverage. Now, if you can't be man coverage, you either coaching or selling cars. Now, my coaching staff filled up. I can't hire you. Now, if you can't beat man coverage, you're either coaching or selling cars. Now, my coaching staff filled up. I can't hire you. John, you hired anybody? You got any sales people you need to hire? Nope, coach. I'm good. Okay, you're going to be without a job.

Wickersham also said the Williams family thought of publicly attacking the Bears and the city of Chicago to try to force a trade. Concerned that the team would refuse a trade to him regardless and cause a worse situation, Caleb told Wickersham, I wasn't ready to nuke the city.

I can do it for this team. I'm going to be the, I'm going to, I'm going to the Bears. I like, I like it. I like it. I know a lot of people might have, might say what I just said,

you know, it's laughable. It's a joke. They're a shit franchise. They might not like Caleb Williams for whatever reason, but I'm telling you, you got a quarterback like that and you get an offensive coordinator with that kind of creativity, understanding the strengths and the weaknesses of the supporting cast that Caleb Williams has around him, man, I think the sky's the limit.

Look at the additions that he got. They fortified that offensive line. Yes. They drafted another offensive weapon at the tight end position. You got Roma, Dunes, and you took number one overall. You just re-did DJ Moore. So you've got weapons out to yin-yang. You've fortified it.

So he should not be getting attacked from the defensive perspective like he had, like he got last year. So with that, I think they got Joe Tooney. I didn't sign a guy from the Rams. Didn't get the offensive lineman from the Rams. But they fortified their offensive line. Now look, he's going to have to do a better job of not getting rid of the football.

Sometimes you got to know when the journey's over. Throw it away, live to see another day. Don't take your team out of field goal range and don't make it third and long. Some things is going to be in his hands. I think he has a better understanding of that having played the game. Got a year up on his belt, Ocho.

Things will slow down for him this year. I know he's going to put the work in. I've talked to the young man and I know he's going to put the work in. I'm excited. That's a very tough division, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, you got Green Bay.

I mean, think about it. Green Bay went to the playoffs last year. Minnesota went to the playoffs last year. Detroit went to the playoffs last year. Yeah. And listen, chat, quote me and remember this. Whatever day it is, it's Friday, Friday, May 16th. I guarantee you the Bears look like a totally—

It's Thursday. It is? Oh, it depends on where you are. Okay, I'm in L.A., but my computer's— It's Thursday still. All right, Thursday, yeah. But I'm telling you, the Bears—every year there's a team. Yeah, there's a couple of teams that pop up, you know,

you didn't think they were going to be in the playoffs, and they end up being there. Yes. Now I hit a time, and I'm really wrong when I have my takes, even though they might sound terrible at times, but for some reason, they always, they turn into fruition.

Who did sign offensive line? And that goddamn Jalen Johnson? Yeah, Jonah Jackson, yeah. So they fortified their offensive line, Ocho. They spent big money. Yeah, they got a center from the Falcons. They got an offensive lineman from the Rams.

And they got Joe Tooney, who's a Pro Bowl player, who's been an All-Pro. So they've done what they should do to make sure the offense flows smoothly. I think Caleb Williams takes another step. He gets better. I think Caleb Williams takes another step. He gets better.

I think they take off. But they don't have a choice because they're in one of the toughest divisions in football. They're in one of the toughest divisions. It might be the toughest division considering they had three teams represent the NFC in the playoffs. Three of their four teams represented

the playoffs. I mean, they had what? A 15-2 team, a 15-1 or a 15-2 team. They had a 14-2, a 14-3 team. And they had, what, a 10-7 or 11-16.

So probably going to take you 10 wins, 11 wins just to make the playoffs, don't you? Yeah. And I believe they have the talent. I mean, like I said,

I think they they did they did what they need to do offensively to make sure because at the end of the day you ain't doing nothing i don't care how good your defense is if your offensive trash you ain't going nowhere bro you're not you're wasting your time and so they're like look we got the number one overall draft pick uh let's cut down on some of these sacks he. I think he was the most sack quarterback in the NFL. So if he can take 20 sacks off of that number, get his completion percentage up. I think he was 62%. Get that

up around 66, 67. Yeah. I think they'll be fine. Because I like what the Bears have done. I like the hire of Ben Johnson. I love the addition of the tight end from Michigan. Although I thought Warren,

the guy from Penn State was better. In my estimation, he was better than me. If I had to grade him, that's what I would do. But hey, they went with who they thought was going to be the best in their situation. I don't have a problem with that. But I mean, you hear rumblings behind the scenes that, you know, he's thinking about Chicago.

It might not be the place for him, considering they haven't developed a quarterback in an extended period of time. Hell, I don't know if they've ever developed a quarterback. You have to go back. Wait, wait, wait. Like I said, they have Rex Grossman. What was the guy that got from Purdue? Ended up going to the Broncos.

Kyle Lorton. Yeah, I remember Kyle. Yeah. So, look. It was reported that he wanted to go to Minnesota because he and McConnell hit it off. He said, man, I really love to play. Maybe he saw

Jetta over there. Hawkinson. Addison. Woo! That probably didn't hurt either. But I think he's in a great situation. Look, you went to Chicago. You went to Chicago. They're going to love you. That's an old school team.

They love their Bears. They've been around this thing for 100 plus years. They love the Bears. They love the Bears players. That was a football town. I mean, they love their Cubbies too now.

So I think the Bears, the Bears are all right. The Cubbies, the Cubbies got what, what was that, 2016? When did they win the championship?

2016? After 100 plus years? They're like, okay. All right, Bears. Y'all haven't won since 85. 40 years. Come on now. What y'all got for us?

Oh, y'all. A fan pointed out the Colts social media account has only posted throws of Daniel Jones and none of Anthony Richardson. Have the Colts already decided they're going with Daniel Jones? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.

I doubt it. I doubt it. Obviously, when it comes to quarterback competition between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, I think that's one that Anthony Richardson would win. Obviously, right now, what they're doing right now, I don't think it's a testament to who would be the starter. Even if there is a quarterback competition. I really think that Anthony Richardson would win that out,

obviously having the edge, knowing the offense. Man, you ain't paying no guy no $14 million to sit on the bench. What other backup quarterback you know making $14 million? Okay. Or the 31 other teams. Hold on. You think they just going to throw him in there, huh? No, I'm just saying, I think there's a quarterback competition.

You said you don't think there's a quarterback competition. I think there's a quarterback competition. Or why would they give that man $14 million? I know one thing. Anthony Richards has a head start on that quarterback competition because he knows the offense. Yes, I agree. He knows the offense.

So if you allow him to beat you out, I think it's more politics because they're paying Daniel Jones 14 goddamn million, and I think they'll just... Bro, I took you number three overall. I put $38 million in your pocket, guaranteed. I guaranteed your whole damn contract. What you mean?

It's politics. It's politics that Anthony Richardson hadn't gotten better and the things that he was doing wasn't conducive for you being a starting quarterback and being good. And you think Daniel Jones is the answer? Because we saw him. What's the question?

Huh? What's the question? You said Daniel Jones the answer. I need to know what the question. Did he go to Duke? Yes. Is his name Daniel Jones? Yes. You can't just say do I think Daniel Jones the answer? I need to know the question. I'm just running down everything you said.

I'm just running down everything you said that Anthony Richardson didn't do. Yes. I'm saying, well, hell, what do you think is going to happen when goddamn Daniel Jones is there? It's going to be all of a sudden he's going to go from what he was last year. And all of a sudden just be, be what Tom Brady this year. No, absolutely not.

I think the thing is, but what does that say? Daniel Jones is who he is. In your third year, did they bring another receiver in and to have him compete with you? Oh no, because by the time I hit my second year, I had arrived.

Okay. Thank you. That's all I need to say there. Now that was not only the Colts gaffe they've made in the last 24 hours. The Colts ended up deleting their scheduled release video that is done by Minecraft style and included a dolphin wearing

a tan Tyreek Hill jersey being pulled over by the Colts guard. Remember what happened on opening day? And an apology, the Colts said, we've removed our scheduled release video because it exceeded our rights

with Microsoft and included an insensitive clip involving Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill. We sincerely apologize to Microsoft and Tyreek. That wasn't fucking insensitive. Tyreek ain't one of them goddamn, oh my God, why did you do that? He loved it. He said you should have left it up at Coles. This was funny.

Yeah, it was funny. It was. I mean, people have to understand when you make jokes about certain individuals, you have to know who you're doing it to. Right. Someone like Tyreek is going to laugh at that. He's not one of those overly sensitive people. And obviously, I'm assuming the people at the Colts don't know it. And maybe other people will get upset for Tyreek.

Tyreek wouldn't care. It was funny. Damn Tyreek. Microsoft. They tie your ass up with rights. They got more money than their whole NFL. All the NFL. Yeah, I see what you mean.

You don't want to be messing with them, Mojo. There's certain things you can do like, oh, I don't even care. And there's certain things, when it comes to big companies like this, they're sitting on $3, $4, $5, $600, a billion dollars in cash. Don't fool with them, Ocho. It ain't even worth it. Take it down. I'm sorry. Okay.

Ocho, you just apologize and keep it moving. And keep it moving. Some of the schedule releases and the creativity, some of the schedule releases and the creativity from some of the teams, I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed.

And that's why we have to be super, super cautious. I told Ash, we're not showing another video. We make sure. We ask, can we show this on our platform? Make sure we get it. And then we're going to screenshot it. Because the last thing we want somebody to do is say, yeah, you can do it. And then erase it and then we gonna screenshot it because the last thing we want somebody to do is say yeah you can do it and then erase it and we ain't got no no we ain't

giving no permission nah you screenshot that ash right now that got us that got our ass burnt we had a 90 day you know we improbate in hell and then the dude took all the all the money that the revenue that we want that got that we got from the video. That whole episode. He probably ran through that. Nah, he ain't got no more of that left. Oh, Joe, you remember the guy that DM'd you last week, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. What about him? He got upset. Like, bro, you gave us permission to show the thing. You gave us permission to show it. Oh. I sent, I sent an ass a message

and I, you know, I was a man, whatever. Because I, it was the issue. I was like, um,

what was the issue? I mean, man, where you at? What's your location? So you could tell me what you're talking about in person.

That's right. I asked three times. You know? I mean, you feel like, listen, I didn't say anything bad, huh? I didn't say anything bad.

No. But I think the thing is, you know, he's from Miami, you're from Miami. He took it away. But, you know, I was like, bro, so you just bypassed what I said. So you only heard what Ocho said. Yeah. But I didn't say nothing bad. I just said that takes too long for me.

I like to get in and out, you know? But he missed the point where I said before you said that ocho i said bad yeah that's 300 dollars we're easy for the haircut the facial the shave the trim yeah that's 300 so he bought but again ocho we talked about that remember right the way we're wired we only hear the negative right he bypassed the positive and i, and I went longer with the positive than you did saying that it'd take too long. I went way longer. But that's what he heard. Yeah.

But, man, you're doing a great job. You provide a great service. I'm going to go get the server. I'm going to go get it. You ain't got no damn haircut. You're only 150. Nah, I'm going to get him a three. Matter of fact, yeah.

Let him shave your head with that straight razor. No, because I get bumps. I get bumps. That thing look like a Nessun Crunch. It would. Hey, I don't know what it say. I'm going to have to ask the patient. I'm going to get that treatment.

I'm going to record it too. Man, we had a dude on our team. I ain't going to call his name. He shaved with one of them disposable razors. Oh, no. Under here? Man, it looked like he stuck his face in an ant bed. Ah.

Nah. Hey, we call it bump, daddy. Yeah. Hey, it took me one time. It took me one time to do it. I forgot. I forgot. I think it was 2007.

The barber, I was in a rush. So he said, well, let me use this on you. And he used the electric. Oh, the electric. Oh my God. It took about two, it took about two days.

But all this up under here, man, looked like a damn Nestle crunch. It took forever. It took forever to go away. I don't, hey, I don't do that.

Now I do shave with a razor. I put, I put that blue steel on my face and I don't bump. Yeah, I'm scared of that. Now, I do shave with a razor. I put that blue steel on my face, and I don't bump. Yeah, I'm scared of that. That right there? Oh, no. Yeah.

Oh, no, man. Man, you be busting blackheads for months. Nah. Hey, Javante Davis versus Lamar Roach rematch is set for August 16th. Oh, yeah. In Las Vegas. You excited, Roach-o? You coming to the fight, Roach-o?

Nah, I'm going to watch it on TV. I don't like going to the fight because I can't see the fight develop being at the fight. Even if you sit ringside, to me, as a person who loves boxing itself in the sweet science i like watching it develop round by round well i'm telling you this when if it when um bud and canelo fight i'm going to that fight going i'm gonna watch it develop ringside yeah it's in september but it's like vegas is on the list, but they listed like LA, they listed a couple of other places like Dallas, New York.

A fight like that has to be in Vegas. It has to be in Vegas at MGM or hell, a fight like that, they need to have it at the goddamn what's the thing? The big ball. Oh, the spear? Yeah, at the spear. A fight like that of that magnitude should Oh, the spear? Yeah, the spear. You know? A fight like that, of that magnitude, should be at the spear.

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So my son graduated tomorrow morning At 8am Should I just get on the road right now And drive to Arizona Or should I just catch that flight In the morning at 5am Catch that flight That the morning at 5 a.m.? Catch that flight. Okay.

That's a six-hour drive. Six hours? Yeah. Okay. The drive to Arizona? Yeah. I mean, hold on. It's a 40-minute flight.

How the hell is it a six-hour drive? That would be three hours. Okay. Because your car ain't going 600 miles an hour. That would be three hours. Okay. Because your car ain't going 600 miles an hour. That's how. That's why it's the time. Yes. Absolutely.

Six Foot Aquarius said, in that 2005 Eagles playoff run, they won two playoff games without T.O. Do you think it was a good idea to bring him back for the Super Bowl? Yes. As a matter of fact, he's the only one that played to a standard. Do you think anybody else offensively looked good? You see, they won two playoff games.

Let me ask you a question. How many games do you think they would have won if they didn't have T.O. on the team? So you forget about those 15 touchdowns that T.O. had, that 1,000 yards that he had before he got hurt, and the first-team all-pro selection. So if T.O.'s not on that team, are y'all even in the position to be in the playoffs? Good question. Snack at halftime.

What's up, Uncle Nocho? I got another one. Start, bench, cut. Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, or T.O.? snack at halftime what's up i got another one start bench cut randy mauls calvin johnson or to god damn this is all you want y'all let you out this is your expertise man no this is you i ain't got nothing to say i'm on my phone damn what hey listen that that's that's a good one man it's like well go ahead give it to you i need it so you say it's a good's that's a good one man it's like well go ahead give it to you i need you so you say it's a good one then give us a good answer all right i'm i'm starting to yo i'm

starting to yo moss on the bench and i gotta cut calvin god dog hey hey hey hey i did my boys too man god damn that's a tough one that is and, and the chat, y'all could probably disagree. They might probably switch. They might probably switch, uh, have Tio starting to have, I mean, have Randy starting to have Tio on the bench,

but we talk about two of the greatest of all time. Obviously, Calvin Johnson is right there in the realm of, of, of who and what they are. He didn't play as long, but, uh,

that's, that's tough, man. That's tough. So this is what Tio, this is what Ocho said But that's tough, man. That's tough. So this is what T.O. This is what Ocho said. He's starting T.O. He's benching Moss.

He's cutting Calvin Johnson. Yeah, that's tough, man. That's tough. Nope, I ain't got nothing to add to that. Sir K. said, my guys call me crazy. But I think this will be Mike T.'s first losing season because I don't think Mason Rudolph would take us Steelers fans to the promised land.

Why Steelers so stubborn about finding a quarterback? What are we talking about? Mason Rudolph's not going to be the starting quarterback. And Rob, he's starting quarterback for the Steelers. He's purposely doing what he's always doing because teams are allowing him, well not teams, the Steelers, are allowing him to wait

until he decides to come in. He's going to be there. He knows what he's doing. He knows he doesn't want to retire. So, I mean, that's what it's going to be. Okay. I think the mistake that they made, me personally looking at it, is that they didn't get a quarterback soon enough.

They should have got a quarterback and let him sit a year or two behind Ben. And they didn't want to piss Ben off, huh? They didn't want to piss Ben off, and that's why they're in the position they're in now. You see, guess what? You see what happened? You see what Green Bay did? Oh, yeah. They got a quarterback with Brent

Favre, and they got a Super Bowl. They got Caleb, they got Love, Jordan Love, when Aaron Rodgers was there. And guess Bowl. They got Caleb, they got Love, Jordan Love, when Aaron Rodgers was there. And guess what? They got prosperity. Yeah.

Yeah. You worry about somebody. So when that guy gone, you didn't piss him off, but he at home, he glad you miserable. I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is glad that it would have been happy,

you know, but I'm saying you spared his feelings, but you suffering. What about your feelings now you spared his feelings, but you're suffering. What about your feelings now when you're getting your eyes beat in every year? Yeah. Not your biz.

Uncle Ocho loved the show. Is James Harden the best scorer with the worst playoff resume? That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I mean, we've never seen a scorer like him in the regular season and lay some duds. It's not that he always does, but it seems like the bigger the game,

the game sixes, the game sevens, when you really need that guy to answer the bell, that seems where he falters because we've seen him have some good game one twos but the game six or seven oh joe like yeah rubber needs to meet the road this is do or die we gotta have a must have that he hasn't been the james hard that we expected that we expect to see or that guy that we've seen in the regular season cowboy geo say oh no no joe question if prime d rose never get hurt does steph curry at your seat or that guy that we've seen in the regular season. Cowboy Gio said, I don't know, Joe. Question. If Prime D. Rose never

get hurt, does Steph Curry still run the league? Y'all think the best D. Rose y'all ever saw, y'all think he's better than Steph? Let's take him in his MVP season because that was the best we ever saw D. Rose. Y'all think he's better than Steph? And they have two completely different playing styles anyway

in what they do. Yes, but even in the different playing styles, y'all think D. Rose at his absolute... Go ahead, O'Keefe, go ahead. Plays above the rim, huh? Yes. D. Rose plays above the rim. Very exciting player.

Very exciting. But I don't think it's completely different. But even if you take D. Rose at his absolute best, which is his MVP season, he averaged 25 points a game, do y'all think he's better than Steph? I mean, really, I'm just saying it's not a rhetorical question. It's a serious question. Chat?

No. No. King Govan said, 11 of 40 from three for OKC. At what point, if you're a coach, do you tell your players to stop shooting threes? Jokic MVP. Hashtag

Jokic MVP. When I look at OKC, I don't look at them as a three-point shooting team. I look at Boston as a three-point shooting team. I look at Golden State, some of the other teams. I mean, everybody shoots. Look, to say somebody's not, that's not true.

Everybody's a three-point shooting team because I think a lot of teams shoot more threes than they damn should. But if you just go by averages, I mean, everybody is shooting on, I mean, they're getting up about 40 threes a game, well, maybe 50 between the two teams. But I think

shooting for the three and not being aggressive because they normally shoot 25 free throws a game. Shade normally gets to the free throw line. How many times Shea normally gets to the free throw line. How many times did Shea get to the free throw line tonight? He got 11. So he's about average. He's like 11, 11 to 12, 11 to 15.

Sometimes he gets to the free throw line 16, 17 times, but about 11 times about average. But only three guys shot free throws tonight. And one of them was a bitch of a role player. He came off the bench. Jalen Williams was one for two. Chet Hunger was one for three. Jalen Williams, 0 for.

Hardenstein, 0 for. Lou Dort, 0 for. So three of you guys in your starting lineup didn't shoot a free throw. Which tells me they're settling. Goes in, great. But if they don't, whew.

My question is, what team is the best fit for Giannis when he leaves Milwaukee? Goes in, great. But if they don't, whew. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, my question is what team is the best fit for Giannis when he leaves Milwaukee, not including Dallas or Miami? Oh, well, shit. You just eliminated the best fit. Yep. I think Houston will be a good fit. But the question is, does he really want to end up West?

Don't mess with the West. Because Shingun and possibly Jalen Green and Draft Picks pair him with Amon Thompson, Van Fleet, Dylan Brooks.

You can switch everything you got defenders I would bring I would bring what you call them back uh Steven Adams but the question is

who has the players and the draft capital because that's what they're gonna want I want draft capital and I want I want players Shingun is probably

the best player you're gonna get uh I want players. Shingun is probably the best player you're going to get. We'll see how that thing plays out. I mean, three, four years ago, we didn't think this was possible, but especially after they won the title. But, you know, they fire Bud. They break it up.

And here we are. Zach Tolerio. I'm calling it Lakers 26 NBA champions I like that no chill will Uncle Don't Chill what sport do you think would have the best

talking back moments huh talking back moments I don't know what do you mean I mean I mean football baseball

basketball anytime you I mean it's hard I mean, football, basketball. Anytime you, I mean, it's hard. I mean, how do you talk trash in baseball? I guess you could. You got to park on your punk ass. I like to see pitchers and batters go at it. I mean, I think it's kind of hard.

Because, look, the guy can throw that pitcher, hit you over your ribs, hit you in your ass, hit you upside your head, your arm, wrist. So, you know, I don't really want to talk trash to the pitcher. Hey, listen, bat flip. Bat flip. At the end of the home run and watch what happens when you come back to that plate the next time. Yeah.

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