Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bengals tagging Higgins, T-Law shuts down PIT rumors, Cardi B & Stefon Diggs
Episode Date: February 18, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Cincinnati Bengals planning on franchise tagging WR Tee Higgins. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Jacksonville Jaguars QB Trevor Lawrence shutting d...own Pittsburgh Steelers rumors, Cardi B was spotted out with Stefon Diggs on Valentine’s Day and much more!04:00 - Tee Higgins may not see free agency15:17 - Cardi B and Stefon Diggs rumors23:00 - Kendrick Lamar’s streaming record26:00 - DeMar DeRozan and Drake beef33:00 - Reginae Carter claps back at Lil Wayne’s haters36:46 - Spello-cinco43:50 - Dunk on Unc49:00 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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T. Higgins may not even make it to free agency.
Sports Illustrated is reporting that the Bengals
are planning on placing the non-exclusive franchise
tag on Higgins for the second consecutive
season if he
doesn't come to terms on a long-term extension
before the March 4th deadline.
He obviously wants a new deal
instead of no tag.
T. Higgins' mom has something to say on this.
T. Higgins' mom, number five,
selfish.
You see what I mean? There it is up selfish beep you see what I mean
there it is up there
you see what I mean
she has since deleted her tweet
you see what I mean
now if mama
if mama tweet
I know mama Higgins
been listening to what
I've been saying
my Bengals fans
I know you in here
I love y'all
I love you
but we can't be selfish
in this instant
when it comes to business we can't be selfish in this instance when it comes to business.
We can't be selfish. Yes, we would love to keep
the band together.
We would love to keep the band together. It's like New Edition.
We want to keep them together, but it's unfair
for Joe to get his money.
It's unfair because
Chase, oh, we can't play with him.
We need every bring truck.
Every bring truck coming down the pay core stadium
to pay
Jamar Chase.
Not for what he's done but what he can continue
to do for the foreseeable future.
T. Higgins deserves his money as well.
He's not going to be able to get what he's worth
if he stays in Cincinnati. He has to be the one to take a pay cut. Why does he have to be able to get what he's worth if he stays in cincinnati he has to be
want to take a pay cut why does he have to be one to take less not only if you don't do that
you give you give people you get teams a home team discount on the second maybe the third you
have to get as much as you can on your first one and fatigue for T to get what he deserves, it can't be in Cincinnati.
And this is coming from someone
that loves my bangles down to the core.
Ocho, it's hard for me to feel sorry
for a problem they created.
Why did they allow the owners
to keep the franchise tag in there?
You see, for a few extra practices off.
You see what y'all did?
See, they bargained for credit privileges.
Okay.
Okay, we'll give you one franchise
tag, but you can't franchise me a second time.
You see, when you bargain for
credit privileges, when you bargain for
no credit practices,
bull jobs like that,
you push OTAs
and training camp back a week.
And then when it comes down to this,
man, they franchise tag me.
That's what you got
the Players Association for.
Got no lifetime benefits.
But I tell you what, Ocho,
you ain't got as many padded practices,
but you still got that franchise tag.
Yeah, listen, it gives ownership leverage and it's also a good thing.
Now, at times, Chad, y'all stay with me.
Now, at times, the franchise tag, it's not a bad thing.
Now, what it does allow, it allows teams, it gives them time.
It gives them time to try and work out a deal, to see if you can reach one in a certain amount of time,
you know,
because before,
before a deadline hits,
um,
I,
I guess I don't like it.
Also,
I don't like the fact that the franchise tag is using it in a,
in,
in a way and in reason.
And then basically saying we value you,
we value you,
but we don't think you're worth what you're asking for
so we're going to give you
top five money at your position
and then
but just for one year
I want long term security
you had T. Higgins for three years
you got him a four field on the franchise tag
now what does T. Higgins need to show you
in year five that you haven't seen
in years one, two, three, or four?
Come on, man. Talk to me.
Come on, man.
And I see people talking about the franchise tag is not the worst thing.
What if it's not the worst?
He don't want it.
Y'all gave him the franchise tag last year.
He played well.
He played well the year before.
Paid a man or allowed him to go someplace else.
No other place.
Baseball don't have
a franchise tag.
Basketball don't have
a franchise tag.
And it's hard to have,
it's kind of hard
to have free agency
when you got a set number.
Why can't a center
make what a quarterback makes?
In baseball,
a first baseman
can make you just as much
as a pitcher.
As just as much as a center fielder, or a third
baseman. Why do you got to have, okay,
the quarterback can make this, a wide
receiver can make this, an edge rusher
can make this, a kicker can make that.
Crazy to me, that means you get what the
market can bear. If I'm
a systems analyst, they ain't got
no structure.
Well, you know, if you do this,
no. Whatever.
If Apple want me, I pitch my service
to Apple, Google, Microsoft.
I get to go
to the highest bidder. If I
work for Microsoft for four years,
they don't get to put a tag on me and say, okay,
I get to keep you. I want to see
one more year. I want to see if you can do this again
in year five. No.
But that's where the players should have.
Because guess what happened?
They had a couple of years left on their deal.
Let me tell you what the owners did.
They had a couple of years left on their deal.
They went and redid the deal early.
The owners ran right to the business partners.
Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN, Amazon.
We got 10 years of labor, peace.
We want to renegotiate our deal.
Hey, listen, the business side of things is always unfair.
It's the nature of the business.
I understand it.
And I am an avid Bengals fan.
I am one that's always stood ten toes for my Bengals at all times.
But in this case, I can't.
Not in this case.
For the team, I understand.
But for T, no.
For the fans that don't understand it and selfishly want T to obviously take lessons,
which he would have to do with them paying Jamar,
even with Joe Burrow restructuring in any kind of way,
T Higgins is still coming out on the shitty thing.
Hey, guess what?
If I'm T Higgins, give me this money,
and if y'all need me to restructure next year,
I'll do that too.
Because see, you already engaged Joe Burrow
with that $90 million.
Now he restructured.
All you did was take his base salary
and give it to him in a signing bonus.
Ain't no reason to stop it.
Well, let me say,
to maybe the average fan,
they don't understand how it works.
So if Joe Burrow has a $40 million base salary,
they give it to him in a signing bonus.
Yeah.
Okay, all you did is give him...
Instead of me getting it
September through January,
you just gave it to me right now.
Okay?
So nothing changes.
He's still getting his money.
He's still getting his worth.
He's still getting what he's paid.
But you telling me,
now, damn,
you finna franchise me again?
Again.
What it's saying
to players
obviously
it's almost an insult
despite the numbers
what the numbers might be
now I'm not talking about
the average person
I'm talking about athletes
that are putting in the work
putting in the time
that are waiting
for that moment
to get that stability
that security
oh you don't feel I'm worth
are you gonna franchise I'm worth are you going to franchise me again
why are you
franchising me again
and I have a great understanding that I'm not
going to be able to get what I'm worth
my true value
do you understand what T Higgins
is going to get on the open market
yes
and see here's the thing
they're going to overpay yes open market. Yes. And see, here's the thing.
They're going to overpay.
Yes.
And it's like, oh, he's going to make $25 million where the going rate is $30.
The going rate is $30.
Man, T might see
$36, $37, man.
No, I'm saying
that's the going rate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. No, I'm saying that's the goal rate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on, man.
That man said, I need 60 million guaranteed.
70.
It's a cold game, man.
It is.
But, Ochoa, like I said,
that's what your
players association
is supposed to be
negotiating you for.
Players,
I think 2030
this thing is up.
Will y'all please
start bargaining
for petty privileges?
Damn padded practices.
Get lifetime benefits.
Do away with
the franchise tax.
Get something
that means something.
Y'all don't want to practice in pads.
What if you didn't have no franchise tag?
Would that be worth it, Ocho?
What if you had lifetime benefits?
Would that be worth it, Ocho?
Yeah.
Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho.
I played.
I got in the league.
I was 22.
I played 10 years in the league I was 22 I played 10 years
I retired 32
Now I get insurance
From the league
For 5 years
So I can take it
To any 5 years
That I want to
So I take it
From when I retire
Until now
I got insurance
Until I'm 37
It start falling apart
In your 40s and 50s
Yeah
Let me Now you on your Yeah It start falling apart in your 40s and 50s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me, let me.
Now you on your own.
When you look at it,
look at baseball players.
People like when you,
baseball players make a ton of money
and they got lifetime benefits.
Basketball players make a ton of money.
They got lifetime benefits.
Yeah.
Because you know why
basketball players say we gonna set it down
remember they struck
yeah
baseball they canceled the World Series
canceled it
now look at it
765 million
700 million
500 million dollar deals yeah $765 million. $700 million. $500 million deals.
Yeah.
And you know,
it's going to take...
It's going to take...
It's got to be one band,
one sound, huh?
It's got to be one band,
one sound.
And it started with the quarterback
because the quarterback
got to lead.
They got to lead the chase.
The quarterbacks have always
been on their own program.
They got... to lead the chase. The quarterbacks have always been on their own program. They had the QB club.
See, when the Players Association,
there was a quarterback club.
And then the quarterback club started taking some
of the best players. They got a Neiman Smith
to join. They got a Bruce. They got some of those guys.
So you had your top quarterbacks.
They were in the club all by themselves.
They negotiated. They did things on their own
they weren't a part
of the players association
so see that was the first thing
the owners say we got them
see they already split
the owners might not
like each other
but they're staying
32
320 toes down
all I need to see
is a little splintering all I need to see is a little splintering.
All I need to see is a little splintering.
I got you.
Cardi B was spotted out with Stefan Diggs on Valentine's Day.
It was rumored that Cardi B had an affair with Diggs while she was pregnant.
I said, child, oh, Lord.
Hey, Stella.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Uh-huh.
Well, it's like.
Well, it's like I'm trying to think.
How far along was she, old chump?
I don't know.
And she wasn't showing. I don't know. She couldn't,
if she wasn't showing.
I don't know about that.
That could be,
that could be false.
That could be,
you know,
a rumor of some sort.
But,
yeah,
hey,
Steph,
Steph,
young,
young boy be doing his thing,
bro,
you know?
But,
but,
hold on,
hold on.
Whoa,
whoa,
let's just say
for the sake of argument
I get it
you know
you married
that's your girl
you know
y'all do what y'all do
I don't know
about hitting somebody else
girl
Ocho
hey
was she pregnant
I don't think
is she sure
I don't think that was true
I think that might have been fabricated
I think that might have been fabricated
and it might have been fabricated. I think that might have been fabricated.
And it might have been fabricated.
Whew, Lord.
Listen, I tell y'all.
I tell y'all.
Somebody said she was seven to eight months.
Hey.
I got dirt.
Hey, when you've been around long enough,
you hear me?
Yeah. When you've been around long enough, You hear me? Yeah. When you've been around long enough,
you have great experience
in this area.
I have great experience in this area.
And it's a lot more peaceful
when you're number two
as opposed to number one
when you know how things go.
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is for the second time they've been seen out
in public in less than a week. Before that,
Cardi tried to downplay the
rumors about Diggs during an Instagram
live. Cardi filed for
divorce from Offset, her husband of
seven years, last August, right
before giving birth to their third child.
When there's smoke,
there's fire. You know that, right?
You ain't hear me, huh? When there's smoke, there's fire You know that, right? I just You ain't hear me, huh?
Yeah
When there's smoke, there's fire
See, her new dude
Really ain't her new dude
You just never knew
You not, you not
You not hearing me
I heard what you saying
Her new dude
Ain't her new dude
You just never knew Always I heard what you're saying. Her new dude ain't her new dude.
You just never knew.
Oh, wait.
It's always smoke.
Where there's smoke,
there's fire all the time.
All you have to do is... Well, I'll say...
If I'm not mistaken,
I think he tweeted something about,
you know,
you sleeping with somebody else.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
Oh, wait.
Listen, if the tweet goes out,
where there's smoke, there's fire.
So there you go.
There you go.
Oh, the plan B is always there.
It's always there.
She might not cheat on you, but she knows who got next.
Come on now.
We've been doing this a long time.
We do not live in delusion we live in reality
based on experience
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yeah step step
hey
step step one of them ones now
he won't play with you
you slip up if you want to oh man yeah
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on the private planes and bring them to you you You know, you and your girl going through it
and somebody, you know, she
fine? Oh, yeah.
All right. Oh, she unhappy?
All right.
I don't want
that kind of problem.
I don't want that kind of problem.
Yeah.
It's a
dirty game.
Man, I'll sit out here tweeting I had you last week by the way
my new beat battle
oh oh
they going at it
petty
let that go
let that go man
listen the game is the game
you just under you got to keep it what. You just you got to keep it.
What they call it.
You got to keep it.
I don't know what that means, but I sound right in this situation.
You got to keep it.
Yeah.
Sometimes you get them.
Sometimes you get God.
But you live to play another day.
You got to remember. She's not yours. It's just your turn. But you live to play another day You gotta remember
She's not yours
It's just your turn
Stay with me now
She's not yours
It's just your turn
Damn, damn, damn
Come on now
Listen, you've been around long enough you hear me i've been number
two yeah i've been number two long enough to know all the tricks in the games and the trade and
come on now in my 20s and my 30s i'm almost 50 why you think i'm trying to wave my white flag man
i don't want i don't want to. I don't want to play no hole.
Y'all can have that.
I don't want to play no hole.
Well, my dog Ocho coming in out the rain.
It's time for me to put the old
galoshes in the umbrella. Yeah, I'm hanging it up, man.
I'm hanging it up.
It's a dirty game.
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As of Monday, Kendrick had 100 million
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ninth artist to do this overall.
Ariana Grande, Billie
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and The Weeknd.
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Travis Scott, 75 million.
Eminem, 74 million.
Post Malone, 69 million.
And Ye, 67 million.
That's dope, man.
That's really dope.
That's really, really dope.
Listen, I'm happy for Kendrick
obviously he's always been a phenomenal rapper
you would have had to
to actually been a fan of his in general
before
you know the beat between him and Drake
because he's always put out great music
I'm not sure his music was one for
for all
you know that in all listening enjoyment.
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Always told a phenomenal story.
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He's done great work to date,
as well as Drake.
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and I'm a fan of both of their bodies
of work and resumes in general.
So, listen, I have no horse in that battle or fight.
Right.
But, you know, you don't have to pick that everybody's been picking
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neither one of them could beat me and rap neither one of them and drake drake know that kendrick
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in, in junior high. Like I've been doing that. So what they doing and going through,
and I lived that life two times.
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Remember when Lamar told me on Club Shae Shae, no matter what, when it comes to him, he'll forever have a friend and me and loyalty out of me because he cared.
He was one.
He was there for me when everything
was kind of going crazy.
I mean,
that's what DeMar DeRozan told me.
Now, if it's a lie, he told it,
but I wouldn't say it.
Listen,
DeMar in Toronto
obviously had a relationship
with Drake. I don't know
the extent of that relationship when DeMar was there
it was very good
and then you think about
DeMar Rosen's background
being from LA
from Compton
where Kendrick
DeMar is from
I understand the whole loyalty aspect of things
you know off the court where Kendrick Lamar is from. I understand the whole loyalty aspect of things.
You know?
Off the court,
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You my homie, man.
You my dog. You should really have no horse in this race.
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But I thought we was cool.
You ain't got to be in the video and all.
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you know,
throwing up the,
you ain't got to be doing all that,
you know?
So,
okay,
that's what we on.
That's the type of time we on all Drake.
Drake done took notes,
then jotted everybody number down, not, then jotted everybody's number down.
Not number,
jotted everybody's name down.
That jumped on that bandwagon.
Yeah, he did.
When he was at war,
to take they personal shots as well.
Okay, it's on.
Bad.
Bad.
That's what it is.
It was 99 against one, huh?
It was 99 against one. And there's only one way Drake can win
and that's in the booth
continue making
great music like you've always done
that's it
I ain't coming out no diss tracks
I'm just gonna make this stuff
that's gonna sell to screaming and people gonna like
he just put out an album doing what he does best
an album for the ladies an album, doing what he does best.
An album for the ladies.
An album for the women.
Oh, listen.
Two things can be true.
You can lose a battle and still be sitting right on top.
Yes. You can lose a battle.
Don't mean you lost the war.
There's a difference He lost the battle
He didn't lose the war
He should have just did like J. Cole
He didn't lose the war
J. Cole said I'm out of this
You gotta fight it that quick now
I'm going to have it
J. Cole said I don't want no part of that
Understandable.
For what?
For what?
Didn't make a whole lot of sense.
Still doesn't.
I mean, look, the song had a catchy phrase
and, I mean, it had a catchy hook.
It is. It is what it is.
But you Drake.
Bro, you got a big old jumbo jet. It is. It is what it is. But you, Drake, bro,
you got a big old jumbo jet.
Got a $55 million crib in
Toronto. Got a big crib in LA.
Got a crib in Houston. Probably got
crib on five continents.
Man, I'd have let that ride so
quick. But it's tough on you. I get it.
Listen, honestly,
Drake and Kendrick need to be thanking me.
They do.
For what?
Because I chose to play football.
You chose the right thing.
You'd have been broke as hell.
Who?
Boy, you ain't ever.
Listen.
I just told you.
I just explained to you who I was in junior high.
But I was a lover boy. You hear me? I was in junior high but I was a lover boy you hear me I was a lyricist I was like
Nas I was like
Nas back then
in junior high
no
you want me to
you talk about
Nas you talk about Big Daddy Kane you talk about
KRS-One
listen I used to rap like Big L in junior high.
My teacher used to call me outside and have me rap for the principal.
That's how good I was.
Yeah, man.
I'll tell you no lie.
I'll tell you no lie.
I have so many gifts
I really haven't really
really been able to expound on
because
I just been
I just been on the go
I been on the go
good thing
you saved the world
from having to hear that
and we're very thankful for that
we're very thankful for that
we greatly appreciate it
I mean you look at Rakim ooh We're very thankful for that. We're very thankful for that. We greatly appreciate it.
I mean,
uh,
you look at,
uh,
rock him. Ooh.
A little more.
Different.
Well,
you talk about lyricism.
That's not,
I mean,
I grew up,
I grew up in that era.
KRS-One.
Yes.
Nasty work.
Big Daddy Kane.
Hey, hold on real quick
chat
y'all want me to
y'all
chat
y'all want me to
give you a quick 16
real quick
like y'all don't understand
I come right off
the top of the head
too
like I'm special
I'm like Lil Wayne
I'm like Jay-Z
and junior high
I ain't writing
nothing down man
I know
your grades
would indicate that
who oh I had...
Your grades? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on.
In high school? In junior high?
Boy, I had five
stars in satisfactories. What you
talking about? I know. Think about
that. You're getting stars in junior
high. Yeah. Y'all in the bungalow
in the back.
I know.
Using the trailers. I know. Using the trailers.
I know.
Yeah, I do.
I do exactly.
Oh, shit.
Oh, damn.
I curse.
Same class the whole day.
Oh, yeah.
Then leave.
Oh, yeah.
Homeroom here.
Spell it here.
Math here.
I tell you no lie.
I juggled in the same classroom.
Chat the whole day.
Hey, when it was time to go to lunch, we had the whole hand.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
Man, you need help with your band.
You really need help.
Little Wayne's daughter,
RJ Day Carter,
clapped back at those
hating on Wayne's SNL 50 performance.
After Wayne performed
a medley of his hit songs
during the Sunday show,
The Roots acting as his backing band,
some people used his performance as an example of why
he wasn't selected to play the Super Bowl.
When Arjanae caught wind of the comments,
she defended her dad on the
Shade Room Instagram comments. She
very clearly pointed out that her
father was well-paid for his time
while the Super Bowl performance didn't get any
money to play. Y'all are some
D-riders.
My dad has been having fun performing for years.
He is truly himself when he hits the stage.
Go play with y'all mofo kids.
He collected a check after this.
Y'all get down.
What are y'all getting for hating, not a D-factor?
Listen, I understand, President Nate.
That's my dog.
And you got
to defend your daddy.
Everyone's going to have an opinion.
Are they going to have an opinion?
That's the world we live in.
They want Lil Wayne
to look and perform a certain way
based on what we're used to seeing from Lil Wayne.
But you don't get
no performance like that at an event like
the SNL. There's only so much you
can do. There's only so much you can do.
You know, there's only so much. I mean,
if he like, if I could
see him at a performance like a Woodstock or
a Rolling Loud or something like that,
I could have something to judge it by.
But I'm not going to judge Lil Wayne's performance
at SNL
50 and compare it to
somebody performing at the Super Bowl
that's two different events
that's two different things
and I think
what they're talking about
based on what they
I didn't see it
I didn't see it
but the only thing
they can compare it to
maybe the energy
maybe the stage presence
maybe
that's the only thing
I can think of
that's the only thing
I can think of
because when you think about
Lil Wayne performing
I think energy excitement That's the only thing I can think of. That's the only thing I can think of. Because when you think about Lil Wayne performing,
I think energy, excitement, engaging with the crowd,
getting everybody going.
I tell you what, who want to see Lil, let's just say it for a versus.
Who want to see Lil Wayne in a versus?
Hold on, if you put Lil Wayne in a versus,
who the hell are they going to go against?
That's what I want to say.
There's only a handful of people that can
actually have the catalog to even go
against him.
Me?
Nah,
people don't even sell catalogs no more.
You got to go online and see it.
Right, I mean, catalog, I'm speaking
of his body of work as far as music
is concerned.
I know what you're talking about.
I'm I'm
I'm
well I thought I thought
Tim
and
Swiss B
Swiss
I thought it was about to start
verses up again that would have been good
that would have been good but I don't think anybody would probably watch as much as they did before
because it was good because everybody had to be in the house.
Wasn't nobody going?
Yeah, using COVID.
Yeah, COVID was going on.
So that was a perfect time to do something like that.
Who y'all like to see battle Wayne?
Some people say Kanye.
Okay, that's a good one
because Kanye has the catalog
to be able to match.
Now, the sounds are completely different.
The sounds of the music are...
This is apples, oranges.
Still great in their own right,
but completely different.
I say Lil Wayne, Jay-Z.
Yeah.
Yeah. but completely different. I say Lil Wayne for Jay-Z. No.
All right, Ocho.
We got
your favorite segment back.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Chat, let's give it up.
Spello Cinco.
Okay, Ocho.
Your first word is boudoir.
What?
When I lie awake in my boudoir.
It's an old-fashioned word for a bedroom.
Say it again.
Boudoir.
Boudoir. Boudob. Boudoir.
Boudoir.
No.
Boudoir.
Boudoir.
Prez had a song, When I Lie Awake in My Boudoir, I Think of You.
Do You Think of Me?
Boudoir.
Boudoir.
Boudoir.
Boudoir. B-O-O-D-O-I-R Boudoir
That's a good one now
You just gave me a word
I never heard before
I never heard nothing like that
I've read the thesaurus
Nigga front to back
Front to back
I've read the thesaurus
I've never heard that before Yeah I nigga, front to back. Front to back, I've read the thesaurus.
I've never heard that before.
Yeah, I guess I think you about to skip the bees.
How about this here?
Poignant.
Poignant?
He made a very poignant point.
P-O-N-I-E-N-T.
P-O-N-I-E-N-T.
Poignant. P-O-I-G-N-A-N-T. P-O-N-I-E-N-T. Poignant.
P-O-I-G-N-A-N-T.
Oh, come on, man.
What are we doing?
Hold on.
Let me slow down a little bit.
Let me slow down a little bit because I'm being too fast
and being too slick.
Guillotine.
Like the chokehold,
like what I'm going to do
to James Harrison. Yes. I don't even know. Actually, it was a device guillotine like the chokehold like what i'm gonna do to james harrison
yes i don't even actually it was a device that was used to behead someone in french
in france so they brought you out to the guillotine they let it down and off with the
monkeys here oh that's a good one guillotine you know you know i'm not a spell that man
hold on i remember listen remember brave? Remember the movie Braveheart?
Yes.
When you scream freedom?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, that was an ax, but still, same concept.
Guillotine.
Gui.
Gui.
G.
Man, forget this.
G-E-E.
I. G-U-I-L. G-E-E-I-
G-U-I-L-L-O-T-I-N-E.
I didn't even finish.
No, you was already off.
You was already off.
I was?
Damn.
How about this, Ocho?
Reconnaissance.
What?
When they send you out,
when they send you out to check something out before you have to go out and do it, they sent Ocho out on a reconnaissance. When they send you out to check something out before you
have to go out and do it, they sent
Ocho out on a reconnaissance mission.
When I was in the Army.
Reconnaissance. R-E-C-O-N
A-I-S-S-A-N-C-E
Incorrect.
R-E-C-O-N-N A-I-S-S-A-N-C-E. Incorrect. R-E-C-O-N-N-A-I-S-S-A-N-C-E.
Reconnaissance.
Hey, listen, I'm feeling good too,
and I'm spelling these words with confidence,
and they wrong.
Mm-hmm.
You confidently wrong.
How about this one, Coach?
Okay, I got it.
I promise you.
I promise you.
Rapport. Rapport. Yes. wrong how about this one i got it i promise you i promise you rapport rapport yes
r-e-p-o-i-r-e
r-a-p-p-o-rapport. It's a good sense of understanding and trust.
Yeah, because me and my quarterback, we had a great rapport.
Yeah.
Hey, I'm 0 for 4.
I'm 0 for 4.
1, 2, 3, 4.
No, you're 0 for 5.
Damn.
For real?
What's this other word?
See, you can't even say a word.
Oh, yeah, you ain't gonna get this one.
Portmanteau?
Oh, a portmanteau.
Oh, a portmanteau.
I had one.
A who?
It was an LV.
What's an LV?
A Louis. It's a large suitcase. It was an LV What's an LV?
A Louis It's a large suitcase
Say the word again
Portmanteau
Where you getting these words from?
The thesaurus that you supposedly had read
Listen, I read it
I read it
I studied.
Damn, hold on there.
Ormanto.
Yep.
Or.
P-O.
Mm-hmm.
U-R.
Mm-hmm.
M-A-N-T-L-E P-O-R-T-M-A-N-T-E-A-U
P-O-R-T-M-A-N-T-E-A-U
P-O-R-T-M-A-N-T-E-A-U
Y'all cheating me over there.
Somebody over there cheating me.
And I know nobody in the chat.
I know y'all not laughing
because y'all ain't know how to spell
none of them words too.
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Alright, Ocho, now it's time to dunk on. All right, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Where we at?
Okay.
Hey.
Hey, Chad, here we go, man.
Dunk on on tonight.
We'll be based on black history and some pop culture since we are in February and it is.
Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We got him right here, chat.
We got him.
Let me know you're ready.
Go ahead.
Chat.
Stay with me and don't put the answers in the chat.
Born in 1867.
This entrepreneur is often cited as the first female self-made millionaire in the U.S.
Thanks to her successful hair care products for black women. This entrepreneur is often cited as the first female self-made millionaire in the U.S.
thanks to her successful hair care products for black women.
Madam C.J. Walker.
God damn it.
Somebody told you that, huh?
Hey, you ran that in the chat.
Okay, here we go.
Okay, here we go. Here we go okay here we go here we go here we go she refused to give up her seat on a montgomery alabama bus in 1955 sparking the bus boycott and further igniting the civil rights movement
what was her middle name
i wish i could tell you, Ocho.
Okay.
Now, I just gave you that easy one
just to get you in the flow of things.
Okay, I appreciate that.
The Harlem Renaissance was propelled
by this poet's work, including Harlem.
What happened to it?
Langston Hughes?
You better stop playing with those shades.
Give me the...
Let me log in right quick
I just have a
I don't doubt it
Hold on
Hold on
Now something is a little sketchy now
Now who would not have you
Were you briefed on these questions
Did they give you something to study before we did this
Because I'm trying to
How before I even finish
asking the question, you answering.
Because I don't want you
to say the chat didn't help me out.
That's why I'm answering them fast, because you're going
to say the chat helped me. Now, the Rosa Parks one, I understand.
Now, I get that one. Now, the rest of them,
I ain't even finishing. You're just throwing
the answer out to me. Yeah.
I'm black. I went to a
black school. I should know a little something. Yeah. I'm black. I went to a black school.
I mean, I should know a little something. Okay.
Here we go.
Known as the Moses of her people.
She was an abolitionist who guided dozens of enslaved individuals to freedom via the...
Nah, this ain't fair.
Who is this?
What was her nickname?
Don't give me her real name.
What was her nickname?
Harriet Tubman? What was her nickname? Don't give me her real name What was her nickname? Harriet Tubman
What was her nickname?
You said she was named Black Moses
Okay
Yeah, okay, you got that one
You got that one
Alright, here we go, here we go
What fictional HBCU
Was attended in
The show A Different World?
Hillman was attended in the show A Different World. Human.
Okay.
Hold on.
Okay, okay.
In Family Matters,
what was Steve Urkel's more attractive
suave
alter ego?
Oh.
Hold on.
Yeah, got it.
Got him.
Ooh.
Mm.
I don't know that one.
Yeah, Stefan.
Stefan. Hey, you, hey, one. Yeah, Stefan. Stefan.
Hey, you, nah, man.
Hey, chat, time out, time out, time out.
I need to talk to, like, because your questions were somewhat easy,
and the fact that you went to an HBCU, it made it even easier for you.
Now, when it came to me, now, I know I was a spelling bee champ from 1985
to 1997, but the
words that I'm being asked to spell
are so far
extreme.
Bro, do you see the
words those little kids be spelling?
Yeah, but that is their
profession.
That ain't no profession.
That ain't no profession.
Bad them kids,
trust me,
they can spell,
but they know a lot more ish
than spelling worse.
Most of those kids
are homeschooled.
And they be graduating
like 13.
See, that's the problem.
I wasn't homeschooled.
Now, you know,
I was in the back of the bungalow.
And, you know,
damn,
man,
I went 0 for 5.
I don't,
I don't,
that don't sit.
0 for 6.
You ain't had to say that.
You ain't had to throw that at him.
And I was,
I was so confident about tonight too.
Chad,
I let y'all down.
Chad,
I apologize.
Like on,
on behalf of me,
I,
I really apologize.
I let y'all down and I'm embarrassed.
Not just myself, but I embarrass y'all down and I'm embarrassed, not just myself,
but I embarrass y'all as well.
Damn.
I'm sorry, Ocho.
All right.
It's time for our last segment
of the evening.
It's time for Q&A.
God.
That was horrible.
Curvy Asian doll said,
Oh, Joe, happy birthday to your baby.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate that.
Her cash app and accepting though.
Love you guys and the show.
I know my baby girl.
She's probably watching.
I know she's probably playing Call of Duty right now.
You shouldn't be asleep
because I know you got class in the morning.
Happy birthday to my wonderful
Shia Yara Johnson, beloved. I know you got track practice class in the morning. Happy birthday to my wonderful Cheyenne Keora
Johnson,
beloved.
I know you got track practice
and I know you have class
in the morning,
so get off the goddamn game
and go to bed.
Happy birthday, baby.
Drew said,
I have a solution
to save the NBA All-Star game,
make it East versus West again,
and the winning conference
gets home court advantage
to the part of finals.
I agree.
That's a good one.
I think that was a solution.
Yep.
Kind of like what baseball did.
That's a good one.
Jay Davis says,
what are your thoughts on these two $300 million contracts
paid out per game?
Per game?
Yeah. I mean, it's to say, I mean, I mean, you say per game yeah I mean
it's to say
I mean
I mean you're asking
how much are the
is a contract worth
per game
if you're making
that kind of money
because
I think
I think best
I think they get paid
twice a month
for the season
why are they playing
they get paid twice a month
if I'm not mistaken
Joe ain't no fun
you could revive the all-star game by taking them overseas stay with me now they get played twice a month. If I'm not mistaken. Joy, no fun.
You could revive the All-Star game by taking them overseas.
Stay with me now.
European soccer does it
in the offseason.
On the offseason,
could encourage players
to build their brand
throughout the international exposure.
What do you think, Ochoa?
I like that.
I like that.
I mean, but a lot of them do.
They go to Japan.
They go to China.
They go to Thailand.
They go to Singapore.
I mean, they go to a lot of them do. They go to Japan. They go to China. They go to Thailand. They go to Singapore. They go, I mean, they go to a lot of Asian countries.
What would you, oh.
What's up?
Well, Victor said, we can say a lot of things about the NBA players,
but the NBA PA looks out for its players, especially their top
players. Shout out to King James and
CP3 for helping them get their
money. NFL PA need to do better.
Shut it down. You also have to understand
now, before you say that,
now, remember, the players
have guaranteed contracts.
Their money's already
guaranteed.
You know what they did, right?
They fought for that.
They shut it down.
They shut it down.
Now think about how many of them it is compared to NFL players.
Players are relying on NFL players.
What happened, I'm going to give you a little history.
I think they struck in 82.
They struck in 87.
You guys got locked out in 2011.
In 87, I ain't going to call no names,
but y'all need to go back and look at those guys.
That a lot of those are first ballot Hall of Famers
and see how many of them crossed the picket line.
Hmm.
I ain't going to call no names,
but y'all going to take a look at it.
I don't need to say, I ain't going to say anymore,
but y'all go look a look at it. I don't need to say, I ain't gonna say anymore, but y'all go look at the guys
that will play it.
Ryan
is asking, Ocho, is a sporting event
a good first date?
That's a phenomenal first date.
That's a great question, too.
But you have to understand the type of woman you're
dealing with. For a first date,
you want to make sure
you've asked her questions on what
she likes to do and if she likes sports if she likes sports a sporting event is a great way to
break the ice hockey game nascar i'm not sure if you ever been to a nascar race you set up
that is oh my goodness now obviously football is cool, but I'm just saying things that are fast-paced
where you can read conversation
and actually talk while you're watching.
Go to, you know, I want to probably go to one,
go to Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte,
Indy, one of those big super tracks
where you just booking it.
You got two miles, you got two miles,
you got two and a half.
I mean,
you got that two mile oval,
two and a half mile.
Yeah.
Exciting.
Very.
Yeah.
I don't know if anybody in this chat has never been in NASCAR.
If you have it,
even if you don't like NASCAR,
the experience is different when you're actually there sitting in the stands,
you will enjoy it.
Willie said the streets need go James on Club Shea Shea interview.
Ocho, when we hitting first watch?
Oh, boy, if you remind me, I'm going to be at first watch tomorrow morning, boy,
after I hit the gym.
So right there in Pine.
Right there in Pine in the plaza with Walmart every time.
Filthy McNasty, yo, Unc Uncle Ocho, how about a trade?
Uncle gets his money,
Uncle gets his phone calls,
and his trophies.
Sounds like it's even to me.
How can we make this happen?
Are we still talking about that money?
Why he even bought that up?
Yeah, you know what, Ocho?
We right there in New Orleans.
Where my $5,200?
You forgot to tell me.
You forgot to tell me. You forgot to tell me.
If you had told me, I would have remembered.
I would have remembered.
I promise you.
I would have had cash on me, too.
Jordan over LeBron.
Wizards have no identity, no culture.
Sheldon Pope says, Ocho, you think this Tank Davis fight going to play out?
How do you think this Tank Davis fight is going to play out? How do you think this Tank Davis fight is going to play out?
Are we going to get Tank versus Shakur?
Oh, Tank versus Shakur?
No, the Tank is fighting somebody else first.
I think Brother Rose, right?
And then he's asking, how are we going to get Tank versus Shakur?
Yeah, at some point, we're going to get Tank versus Shakur.
I'm not sure when.
Now, obviously, this Tank fight
that he does have coming up,
if I'm not mistaken, sometime in March,
I think it's going to turn out how all the Tank
fights have come out. He's fighting
a quality
opponent. I don't think it's going to be a walk in the park,
but at some point,
at some point, like all his
fights have turned out, I think
he's going to come out on the winning end.
And that's no disrespect to his opponent.
And obviously, if him and Shakur fight,
man, that's going to be nice.
That's going to be special.
That's going to be a great fight.
How it's going to turn out, I don't know.
Because Shakur, when it comes to being a magician from a defense,
Shakur's defense is his offense.
His defense is his offense.
So I'm not sure how that's going to turn out.
The person that makes the fewest mistakes wins that fight.
Oh, that's a good question.
And I think Shakur would be a good question. Hey, that tank of Shakur would be a good one. Get it, Bear.
Does Shakur have enough power
to keep the tank off of him, too?
That's the question.
Oh, that's good.
Hey!
Look at that little pit bull.
Hey. Hey, look at that little pit bull. What's up, Teddy?
Talk.
Say my name, Teddy Bear.
I'm two years old.
I went to the vet today and they told me that I
need to
I ain't gonna be able to
I ain't gonna be a father.
What happened?
He said, I'm gonna have
to go under the goal of procedure. Oh, man, you
got him neutered?
I'm gonna have to. No, why?
His prostate is enlarged
okay okay okay
and so
and plus he's got
he's got the personality
he's going to have
so
um
I've only had
I've only had
two of my dogs
I mean one of them got
like he was like
nine when it happened
but
so probably the next month I'm going to have to when it happened. But,
so,
probably in the next month,
I'm going to have to undergo,
undergo a procedure.
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