Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Best of Ocho’s Resume

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson does a deep dive into his stacked resume with Shannon Sharpe in this week’s Best Of episode. Ocho discusses everything from posing nude for PETA and his potential career... as an MLB player to future President and much more!03:10 - Ocho inquires about a job on First Take09:30 - Ocho posed nude for PETA16:55 - Ocho could have had an MLB career28:37 - Ocho for future president?31:21 - Stay with me now, Ocho can lift(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:13 But if you lead dog, then you had me right behind you. But I had the fact that, Ocho, Ocho, let me get in the house a little while, and they don't go realize that I've been taking scraps. You know, that I've been giving to you out the little while and they don't go realize that I've been taking scraps. Now, you know, did I mean, I've been giving you out the back. Listen, don't. Man, listen, I got to get it good. Listen, I'm telling you, let me let me tell you something. The people over there, people over there knew what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:03:40 That first take now I'm talking about me and you want to punch. That's that special. That's some special. The people, the people need that the people need that what's the one thing the guys will all first take what they do debate they harsh critique yeah i could i could i could critique too that's not what you're saying i can i can debate with the best of them everything is not meant to be a debate sometimes it's about a discussion and having an open and honest conversation about how somebody played. Are you willing to do that? I'm willing to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Whatever you want me to do, boss. Okay. After I see a couple of times that you're doing it on here, then I'm going to go talk to the producers. I do it every day on here. I do it every day. I do it every day. I do. I do to an extent. Just check your boy tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. ESPN first take. Wait, what time? What time you on? I'm on 10 a.m. 10 a.m. Hey,
Starting point is 00:04:33 hey, well, since I can't be on this, send your boy a shout out, man. Send your boy a shout out. I was there, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:40 I would say, shout out to Glenville. We at the house. Savannah State. What up? Nah Nah talk about fam you I ain't going to no fam you I'm with the Savannah State I'm proud of all the HBCUs
Starting point is 00:04:55 But ain't nobody getting no love in front of SSU What's wrong with you That's fine just bring me on there I wear my fam you suit No you ain't Bring me on there. Bring me on there. I wear my FAMU suit. No, you ain't. Bring me on there. No. Yeah, boy. No, you can't do.
Starting point is 00:05:08 If I get on ESPN just one time, I know my mom and my grandma gonna be proud. Look at my baby. Look at your boy. You boy on TV. Granny, your boy made it. You boy on TV, Granny. Your baby on TV.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I need you to help me, Granny. I'm your baby on TV. First take. I need you to help me, man. I don't need much. Just give me, I do two blocks. A block and a B block. I don't need much. I don't need much. You see what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm just telling you. You see what you're saying? I don't need much. See what you're saying? You say you're going to give me crumbs. Give me crumbs. Give me the A and the B block. That's all I need. See what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:05:43 See? I'm trying to help you. Now, I try to say, hey, See what you're saying? I'm trying to help you. Now, I try to say, hey, look here, Ocho, I'm going to get you a pair of these Air Force 1. Nah, give me the Jordan 1. Damn, Ocho, I'm getting you a pair of free shoes. Now you telling me you want
Starting point is 00:05:58 the A and the B block. See, we ain't never satisfied. I'm being nice. I'm being nice by not trying to do the whole show. Just give me a little appearance. Just give me a little feel. You see how you operate? I get you a job.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You don't want to start mid-level. You want to be the CEO. I said mid-level. A and B block, that's 10 minutes. You do realize A and B start the show. Those are the most important blocks. That's why we put the most important time with that. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:28 You making my point. You making my point. You ain't happy with Air Force One. You want the Freddy Krueger's. You want the Loftus. I like the Air Force One. Ain't nothing wrong with Air Force One, but if we going to do something, let's do it right.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Let's get the people what they want. Get the people what they want, man. So now you want me to take the most expensive shoe that the man gonna miss. The man gonna miss like, hey, where are y'all? We have a size 11 Jordan. Where is that shoe? Listen, understand what you get when you get me
Starting point is 00:06:59 that Jordan 1. Understand what you get once I'm in front of that TV and that camera with that goddamn three-piece suit on with the handkerchief hanging out of it. Understand what you get with the glasses on. Me off the air? That's what I get. Me off the air. So now,
Starting point is 00:07:16 we got two brothers. We got two brothers that's not going to be on first take no more. Me and you. Listen. Listen. One thing about it is I ain't gonna sink the ship i ain't gonna sink the ship we ain't gonna be jack and rose it's gonna be enough room for me and you on that dough so come on just just do do do what you need to do get your boy on there now help your boy out sometimes in life you know what we got to do we got to pull each other up
Starting point is 00:07:40 we got to we got to pull each other to get me where i need to get to to reach the pinnacle of my success off the field you gotta put me in a position to to win and succeed that's why i need you brother that's your purpose that's your purpose you do realize like when you're trying to save someone and they're in the ocean and they're drowning you know you're supposed to come up from behind because the person is drowning. So he's going to push himself. They're going to push themselves up. I don't like that analogy. I can swim.
Starting point is 00:08:09 No, you can't. No, you can't. But anyway, let me get my foot in the door. Let me get a couple of these hostess segments. And then, you know, they say, hey, is there anybody you'd like to have on? I was like, yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Now that y'all mentioned it, it is. You see how I did that, don't you? Yeah, I like that. I like that. But listen, you sound like Ray right now when he was out there bootlegging. You sound like Ray right now.
Starting point is 00:08:31 You've been telling me when you get your foot in the door, your foot been in the door for two months. What else you waiting on? Ocho. Ocho. Rest your body in the door, man. Help your boy out.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, let me. Ocho, I got to get in, get settled. Like, I got to know where all the stuff at. I got to get in get settled like I got to know what all I got to know all the stuff at. I got to know all the stuff at you know what I know what to do when I can't when that when that cameras on when that cameras
Starting point is 00:08:54 on you know what to do when the cameras rolling I know to do all I need is you to get me in the building get me in the building and I take care of the rest. Oh Joe. Let's see. That's that's the thing that you're going to see. I got you at the building and see what I suppose I've been doing is going straight there me. I don't got you in the building. Ocho, see, that's the thing. There you go, T. I got you in the building and see what I suppose I'd have been doing is going straight there. Me, I done got you in the building and I got both of us caught.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I got both. I done got both of us caught. Ocho, you posed nude to support Peter years ago? Would you pose nude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For a good cause? I posed nude, boy. I posed nude years ago, boy, you know? You know? And it was easy for me, you know, I for me. Then there was a little controversy because
Starting point is 00:09:28 I posed new for Peter. Then boom, people were getting on me about me using the football to cover the three inches. It was like, well, damn, ain't the football pigskin? They got on me heavy, so it was kind kind of contradictory yeah I couldn't do it I couldn't do it because they say man you got an elephant in the head hey matter of fact I'm so glad
Starting point is 00:09:59 somebody bought that Peter ad I need to get that Peter ad blown up how did that come about I can't remember this was a long time ago That Peter ad, I need to get that Peter ad blown up. How did that come about? How did that come about? I can't remember. Oh, this was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:10 This was a long time ago. I'm talking about this might have been in my prime. I don't even know what year that was. Hey, somebody in the chat, one of the ladies in the chat, send me that picture of that Peter ad to my Twitter because I ain't seen it in years. So I could take that to Kinko's and get that blown up so I could put it in my game room. I don't think Real never seen that. When Real see that, well, she might fall back in love.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Fall back in love? Because she ain't never seen that side of me. Ocho, you weighed 36 pounds. Would you stop saying that, man, for people to really think I was that little? I played at 215. I was at 215, too. Ocho ain't never been 215
Starting point is 00:10:48 in his life, Gil. With the pads on or off? Off. I was rocked up. Pads and a 25-pound weight. I put him at 205. Yeah, I was 215. I was 6'3", 215, man.
Starting point is 00:11:04 4'2", 4'1", 4-2, 4-1, 40. Oh, Lord. Now, you just told everybody your 40 time was why you went in the second round. Now you ran 4-2? No, the reason I went in the second round is because I bounced around from school to school, and it was too many red flags. That's why. Too many red flags.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I went to 30-11 schools before I even got drafted. Bro. 31. Look here. Eric Swann was in the semi-league. That joke went in the first round. Top five pick. What year that was?
Starting point is 00:11:36 What year, Swann? Come on. 96. That's why. 2001. 2001. Man, hey, listen. They went and talked to my teachers in elementary school.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I mean, what does it matter what I did in elementary school going into the draft in 2001? That made no sense to me. Actually, they went out. Elementary school? Ocho, when I'm investing that count, let me ask you a question. If somebody said, Ocho, I got a deal and I need you to invest $10 million, I need you to invest $20 million, $30 million, you going to take their word for it
Starting point is 00:12:10 or what? Are you going to do some background checking? Do me a favor. I'm just asking, Ocho. I understand. I understand doing a background check. Please explain to me how talking to my elementary teachers in 1985, 1984, whatever it may be, what does that have to do with anything?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Was he disruptive? Did he steal? Who wasn't disruptive in elementary? Of course I was. A lot of kids weren't disruptive, Ocho. Show me somebody in elementary school that wasn't disruptive in any kind of way. Show me somebody in elementary school
Starting point is 00:12:42 that instilled something in some kind of way. My brother. I don't get that instills something in some kind of way. My brother? I really don't get that either. Like, I was stealing because I'm broke. Once you left me, I ain't broke no more. So I don't need to steal. So that don't even matter.
Starting point is 00:12:57 First of all, Gil, Gil, you had a mom and a dad. You middle class. You ain't broke. You good. We'd rob you. Me and Oo would rob you but i'm just saying the stuff they be asking like you if you drive me all these problems go away my mom now now some of the stuff i will i will concede some of the stuff that they ask goes overboard ridiculous now they you heard the story about about uh blackman from uh uh justin black justin black yeah they went down one one gm says he went to oklahoma state he didn't
Starting point is 00:13:38 know who he was right he said he was in a bar he went to this bar five days in a row. Guess who was in the bar having a drink every day that he was there? Ocho, tell the people who got – who's out of the league because why? Hey, you know what? That's why you – that's why you – Jacksonville Justin Blackman. Yes. The issue that he had at Oklahoma State, Jacksonville didn't do their homework.
Starting point is 00:14:12 One team did their homework, took him off their board. When you invest that kind of money, it's just like you probably, if you're going to invest that kind of time and energy and money in a young lady, in today's time you better go do some background. I mean, today you do have to go back to elementary school. Now you got to go back to elementary
Starting point is 00:14:36 school just to make sure what it was then. Oh, there you go, Kiffy. There we go. We got to move the conversation along. We got to move the conversation along on you. I, there you go, Gil. See? There we go. We got to move the conversation along. We got to move the conversation along, Ocho. I ain't fooling with Gil. Man, I ain't fooling with Gil. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Hey, Gil, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. You do. You do. Huh? Ocho. See right there?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Hey. Hey, boy. Hey, listen. When I was young, I was like. uh Ocho see right there hey hey boy hey listen when I was young all 185 pounds man I'm 215 right there what did you talk about
Starting point is 00:15:14 no you not no you not you see how many abs I got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 10 chisel 3% body fat 6'3 215 4'140 that was me Yes. Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. 10. Chisel. 3% body fat.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Six, three, 215 for 140. That was me. A squirrel leaner than a bear. What the hell are you talking about? Hey, one thing about you. I was here when I was well, now. Hey, I tell you, they voted me America's Sexiest Man Alive in 2005. 2005?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, Sexiest Man Alive. It wasn't nothing like me. I was Maurice Chestnut before Maurice Chestnut. I was Blair Underwood before Blair Underwood. Wait, hold on. Because we got drafted. You said 2005? No, no, I'm saying I got drafted in 2001. It wasn't until I came into myself
Starting point is 00:16:05 and puberty hit. Then I became the sexiest man alive for like a year. After that, that shit fell. I fell off after that. Yeah, you might have been. Okay, I was just checking because I was back then.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It was... I was sexy in 46 states. Yeah, yeah, they banned me. Y'all already know. 46 states. Yeah. Yeah. They banned me. Y'all already know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Hey, 46? 46. I was still working on the other ones. Oh, man. Oh, that's a good one. Man, y'all need help. I can play for the Marlins right now. Now that I think about it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Look at my technique. You can't see my whole body, but you can see I know what I'm doing, though. What you think? No. You scared of that ball. Who? You. Oh, listen, I hit 90, 100- 90 hundred mile an hour ball with ease, man.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I got hand-eye coordination. How do you think I put it? I tell you what. You won't even put your bat on the hundred mile an hour ball. Oh, you won't bet nothing? I go record it tomorrow. I go to the batting cage tomorrow and show you. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You ain't going to do it. Let's bet. Let's bet. We bet. Okay, bet. You won't put one ball in play. Okay. You might stick your bat out there and it's going to end. No,'s bet. Let's bet. We bet. Okay, bet. You won't put one ball in play. You might stick your bat out there and it'll go in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You better do your homework now. Do your homework now. I can play some baseball. Don't do that. You ain't never played no baseball. Who? You. You ain't never played no baseball.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I played baseball in college. I almost got drafted. Yeah, to the military. No, to the... They were looking for a few good means. That was the only draft you're going to be a part of. Man, please.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I mean, Ocho, the thing is is that what you have to understand. Eight hours to go. Baseball, baseball is a sport. Like, you can play, guys can play like,
Starting point is 00:18:04 you heard guys, well, like Olajuwon didn't play basketball, but like his 11th and 12th grade year, maybe his 12th grade year. And guys play football, play one year of football. Baseball, you better come up at five years old from looking and seeing them balls. That ain't no sport that you just pick up at 15, 16 and say, yeah, I'm going to be a pro.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Hell no. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I respect every sport. And it kind of makes me sad sometimes when you don't believe how good I am at certain sports. I believe you're good.
Starting point is 00:18:37 In high school, in high school, at Miami Beach Senior High, I played baseball. I was considered almost going into the first round, but I chose to play football instead. I was a five-tooler.
Starting point is 00:18:52 No. I was a five-tooler. I was a five-tooler in high school. That's how good I was. What are the five-tools? Dude, what you mean what are the five-tools? I was a slugger
Starting point is 00:19:05 outfield you couldn't get that i would like shit i used to pitch too i would like shayho ohtani in high school i did everything i i bullshit you so so in other words you can hit for power hit for average yes yeah i did everything. Cash throat. Cash throat, man. Listen, everything. I was a five-tooler. Hey, no. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I was finna get drafted to the Baltimore Orioles. Oh, Lord. Ocho. Like I'm saying, I mean, think about it. Think about how hard it is. There have not been a whole lot of guys. That's why you think people give
Starting point is 00:19:42 Prime and Bo so much credit. Yes, sir. Because it's so hard to do that. Very, very, very. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray was the number one overall pick in football. He was the number eight pick in baseball. Yeah, that's crazy. Brian Jordan. I don't know if you remember
Starting point is 00:20:00 Brian Jordan. He played safety. He ended up, he was a safety for the Falcons, a pro bowler. He gave it up and turned, and he played probably 15 years for the Cardinals. I don't know if all the years, but a lot of the years, bro, that baseball is a different animal. Think about Ocho.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Think about this year. You hit 300. You're going to be a Hall of Famer. Where else can you fail? You can be successful three out of ten times. Imagine if you caught three out of ten balls that were thrown to you. Or you made three out of ten shots. You'd be at home on the couch.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So that lets you know just how hard baseball is. Mm-hmm. Man, hell. Hey, I ain't going to lie to people. I was scared of the ball. So that was my – And plus, baseball was summer. It wasn't that we didn't have no traveling. I had to work.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Mary Porter said, you were hitting them fields. Yeah, yeah. He didn't hit no baseball. He hit them fields. And I'm cool with that. Plus, Ocho, you go from football to basketball, basketball to track. Track. You had another month of school
Starting point is 00:21:08 and as soon as we got out of school, we're in the fields. Yeah, yeah. Ain't no time for no baseball, no damn baseball. Baseball and track overlap. Yeah. Damn, I wish you could have saw me. Boy, I'm telling you. Hey, I wish you could have saw me pitch
Starting point is 00:21:24 boy back then, boy. Pitch what? Oh, Lord have mercy. You heard me? Yeah, I heard you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm trying to get my camera. See my technique. See that? Yeah, I see that. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:25:09 The five tools you had. You had a lawnmower. Let me tell you how good I was. Can I tell you the five tools you had? In the outfield, I was the only person in the outfield. Mm-hmm. You had a lawnmower. That's how good I was. Yeah, lawnmower.
Starting point is 00:25:21 An edger, a weed eater, a rake, a rake. Those are two. A blower. Those are four of the tools that you had. Man, it made me feel like you had five tools. Lawnmower, an edger, a blower, a weed eater, and whatever the hell you wanted. Because those are the only tools that you had, bro. I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You got, you know, until you see it, you would never believe it. Some people say, I didn't know Ocho could play soccer until they saw it. Then they see me, I didn't know Ocho could play tennis until you see it. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. You kicking a soccer ball and actually being a soccer player, they're entirely two different things. Hey, do me a favor. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Are you going to the TST tournament? You're not going. No. So when you see the highlights from the tournament and you be like, oh, shit, this motherfucker really know how to play. Make sure you give my credit. Ocho, there are guys that can go shoot a basketball and they think they can be in the NBA there are guys that think they can catch a football they should be in the NFL
Starting point is 00:26:28 there's levels to that Ocho man don't do that don't do them people like that Ocho don't do what I've been doing it respect them people sport you can't play no damn soccer I can't? No see I don't like when you do me
Starting point is 00:26:44 like that I don't like when you do me like that. I don't like when you do me like that. I got to keep you realistic. Hold on. So I can't play tennis either, huh? You see me play tennis? No. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Okay. No. You not returning one service. Just because you can't do it don't mean I can't. You can't return one. Listen. Listen, Ung, there are clips of me doing everything you're saying I can't do, which makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I tell you what, you not returning one professional tennis player served. You said respect their sport, so I wouldn't be playing on a professional level then. So what are we talking about? We're talking about just playing the game. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I can do that. I can go out in that shoe. I can do all that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 No, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. No, you can't. Matter of fact, I can go play right now. I can go right now and make the Miami open. Miami open what?
Starting point is 00:27:35 The Miami open. In tennis? Yes. Right now, at 56, I can go play for y'all. Matter of fact, I can go play for Napoli in Naples, Italy, right now,
Starting point is 00:27:50 coming off the bench. No. Yes. You'll never see no action. Yeah. I'm going to see action. Ocho. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He's mad talking about Ocho. Yeah. Because you said you was going to be able to play professionally. I'm talking about professionally. I didn't say professionally, though. I was just talking about I'm really good at the thing that I take seriously. Oh didn't say professionally though. I would just talk about it. I'm really
Starting point is 00:28:06 good at the thing that I take serious. Oh yeah, you go out there and play the old people. There's a lot of old people down in Miami. I don't play old people. I play the younger folks to let them know how good I am despite my age. Oh Lord. Yeah. That's what I do. Yeah, man. Man, Ocho. You got the people to leave it up, man. I believe Ocho
Starting point is 00:28:26 you got the people believe it up man I believe Ocho could play I can I can if you see you don't
Starting point is 00:28:33 pay attention to what I be doing man it's what I do oh lord have mercy I was at a celebrity tennis tournament with Andre Agassi and Pete Sanford
Starting point is 00:28:50 you not hitting that ball man that ball have you ever seen a professional tennis match have you ever seen I go to the Miami Open every year I know what it look like bro listen do you know
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm my hidden partner? I'm Chris Eubanks' hidden partner. Like I said, I'm being honest. I'm Chris Eubanks' hidden partner. So the fact that I know what it looks like, I can return. I can do all that.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I mean, you wouldn't have been able to hit or return Venus Lips Arena, let alone the million. Man, I'm talking, man. Listen, man. So you disrespected my skill, man. No, no, no, no. You over-evaluating your skill.
Starting point is 00:29:38 No, I'm not over-evaluating because I train and I practice with the pros. That's what you fail to realize. Ocho, do you realize how many people that played sports that didn't cross over? Like, you got two. You got three. You got Bo. You got Dion. You got Brian Jordan. You ain't never seen nobody play professional football and basketball.
Starting point is 00:30:02 You'll never see nobody play. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I played professional soccer and football. Hey, never see nobody play... I play professional soccer and football. What are you thinking about? Like, I'm thinking about the presidency.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm thinking about the two people who are running that we have to choose from. And I always thought, obviously, I'm really not into politics as heavy as I'd like. I have family members that are. Don Lemon, we're related. He's into politics really good.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Mark Lamont, Anthony Hill, he's another cousin of mine. He's really into politics. But I would love to represent the people. You know that? And it's probably I'm not the right person to do so, but I would just love to be in that position of power, you know, to be the president. Like, could you imagine what I could do?
Starting point is 00:31:02 You know, if I was in the highest seat. Can you can you imagine the changes I would make? You know, when we talk about someone representing and being for the people like that's me. Like I live by that. Like I really live it. I don't talk it. Like, you know, part of being part of politics is talking and selling a dream, getting people to actually vote for you. But what the people need is somebody like me that actually, you know, talk the talk and actually walks it. I'm really like that. Like I could just imagine my my I just when it's time for me to give a speech, you know, and I and I start my speeches with, you know, for the American people. I just want to know know I fucking love you and then I will get into
Starting point is 00:31:50 whatever the topics are at hand like I just I would just be perfect for that you know I just thought about that just after watching that ad and I don't know man damn the thing is Ocho you got a lot to be in politics.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And you said you're going to be for the people. But the thing is that you need those big donors. Oh, I got donors. So what you think they want to return? Hold on. What you think they want to return? Oh, yeah. I got them.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I got them. I got them. One hand rubbed the other, man. I understand the political game very well, now. But this is the problem. The people don't understand it. I don't think the people understand it. Now, I'm not now we're not going to make this a political goddamn debate because this is nightcap. Not not not Fox News or CNN, but, you know, I'm going to let that be. We'll say that for another date and another... I can get into it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I can get into it good. I ain't going to do that. Love the show. Do you think you could do 225 for more refs than Ocho could do 185? Do you think you could do 225 on the bench for more refs than Ocho could do 185?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 on the bench for more reps than Ocho could do 185. Why would he discredit me and put me at 185 when I could do 225 as well? What is he trying to say? But you're only going to do it for one rep. So he's trying to give you an advantage. 225? I could do 225 27 times. What are you talking about? Ocho, I tell you what I'd be willing to do.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I put up a million dollars saying you can't do 22 25 to do 27. Oh, you're going to run me my money? You're going to run me my money? No chance. This is what people fail to do. People always have an eye test. People always use the visual. Listen to me. Stay with me now, baby. People always use the visual and look at something and say... You got a
Starting point is 00:33:40 t-shirt on up under that? His frame is small. He shouldn't be able to do this. You got a t-shirt on up under that? His frame is small. You got a t-shirt on up under that? Yeah. Take that off. Let me show the people. Yeah, I know. Hey, y'all ladies don't be looking at me now.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. Yeah, let me come up out this thing. Let me come up out this thing. Let me come up out this thing. Yeah, you see that? Look at that. Look at that. I do. I just look like this.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I just look like this. I have a small frame, but I'm strong. Huh? You ain't doing no 225. How you going to tell me and I've done it? I've done 225 27 times. No. I just look like this. Hey, pull up Ocho. I'll tell you what we can do.? I've done 225 27 times. No. I just look like this.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Hey, pull up, Ocho. I'll tell you what we can do. We can pull up what you did at the Combine. What is the Combine? What's the Combine? It ain't got nothing to do with it. You talking about right now. Ocho, first of all, this is how I know you can't do 227.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Because when you went to the Combine, that was your opportunity. I didn't even lift. Let me finish. Let me finish. The Combine was when you're on the job interview you're gonna be at your absolute best you're gonna be at your fastest you're gonna be at your best because that's the job interview you don't even lift like that anymore I'm not so sure I'm not so sure you could do 225 I didn't even lift weights at the combine all I needed to do was run
Starting point is 00:35:05 my 40 and run routes. Once they saw my routes, that was it. That sealed the deal. That's how I know you can't do 225 27 reps. Talk about now. Talk about now. Now, if you said you do 185 like 10 times, I said, okay, you might get there. No, no, no. I'm very strong
Starting point is 00:35:21 despite my frame. I am extremely strong. So if you want to put that million dollars, make sure you stand on business by that million dollars too. Meal. I'm going to do a video when I get back to Miami tomorrow. No, you're going to do no video. I'm going to be there. Bring your million with you.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I don't need no video. I need to be there. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. No, no. I'm going to video it so you can see. I don't need no video. I don't need no video. I'm going to be right there in your presence. I'm going to video it so you can see. I don't need no video. I don't need no video.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'm going to be right there in your presence. I'm going to bring a million dollar cash. You bring yours. You put it right there. Wait, what I'm taking a million out for? Because you're going to put, you bet me a million. Nah, you said you bet the money. You bet the money.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Put up. I'm putting up a million. You put up a million. So I'm walking away with two million. You walking away with two million. You bet the money. Put up. I'm putting up a million. You put up a million. So I'm walking away with two million. You walking away with two million. You know what? I'm a million for me and a million for Real. You know, we appreciate that. Happy holidays. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I tell Real to put up a million, too, because I got to cover her, too. So it's two million. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I like that, too. It's cold in Philly, man. Let me put my jacket on. I might find, hey, with two million, with two million dollars, I might find too. It's cold in Philly, man. Let me put my jacket on. I might find, hey, with $2 million, I might find me somebody then. You already got somebody.
Starting point is 00:36:30 She done donated you $2,000. Hey, well, guess what? Her friend about to donate me a million. Her friend at the hub about to donate me $2 million. So I'm about to have $2,000,000, $2,000,000. $2,000,000, 2,000,000. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
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