Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Best of QB talk

Episode Date: October 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top QB stories from this season so far. Top stories include New Orleans Saints DE Cam Jordan declaring Drew Brees as the GOAT, Pittsburgh Steelers Russell Wilson’s future as QB1, Washington Commanders rookie QB Jayden Daniels having an MVP season and much more!03:16 - Daniel Jones isn’t meeting expectations11:05 - Cam Jordan says Drew Brees is the GOAT17:06 - Drake Maye has had the same girlfriend since he was 12 years old22:00 - Russell Wilson’s future as QB123:40 - Jayden Daniels’ great season26:18 - Andy Dalton or Bryce Young?32:00 - Deshaun Watson’s performance overall this year37:17 - Anthony Richardson injury-prone(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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open and he skips the ball to it. Ocho, that is the most routine. He has no pressure. He had a great ball fake. Slayton runs a great route. Ocho, you gotta, if you can't complete the routine, how are you going to win?

How? Why would you retreat? You in field goal range. Why would you retreat and throw the ball up in the middle of the field, Ocho? Ocho, that's high school. That's basic football. Yes. That is so routine.

I shouldn't even have to tell you. First of all, you never roll and then throw back across your body. You never retreat and throw the ball up in the middle of the field. This is an NFL professional quarterback, and he makes the most boneheaded plays that a high school player is taught not to do. A junior high player is taught not to do. There's one quarterback in the NFL that's worse than him. He played down there in Tennessee. Who is that? Yeah, yeah.

When we talk about bonehead players, the thing you just cannot do, not even giving you a chance or opportunity to win, but I don't mean to veer off track, but Daniel Jones didn't play very well tonight. He didn't give his team a chance to win with some of the throws that he did make. You are correct.

He might have been seeing ghosts, though, huh? He might have been seeing ghosts because it does happen. When you get hit enough, you get sacked enough, you get rattled, you start doing things you don't normally do that are routine, it makes the routine things difficult. Yeah. But I think the thing is, Ocho, I just think your team is like really inconsistent.

And the problem that you're going to have is that your defense isn't very good. Now, you got away with one tonight because their offense is worse than your defense. But when you play a team that can put points on the board, I don't know how many games you're going to win if you play an offense that you score 17 points. There were a team that can put points on the board. We've scored 30.

We had 30 balls the past two weeks in a row. That's why I don't understand what the hell happened tonight. But here's the thing. Remember against Washington? How many times did you kick field goals in the red zone? That's what got you beat against the commanders. Last week, you got the ball. You scored, what, five times.

But when you needed it, you threw it interception late. You had the Chiefs on the road. You fumbled the ball. They get a scooping score. It seems your offense at the most inopportune times are not doing what they need to get done. Going up and down the field, you should be pleased. the one thing you should be pleased with the night oh joe is that when it was a 10-7 ball game and they got the ball back they went down and got seven yeah

you should be pleased with that because when a team can take the ball and said we're not going to give it back to you or if we do give back, you're going to be down two scores. You should be very, very pleased with that. That is the mark of a team that says, okay, if we can just shut them down a little bit on defense. I'm not saying you got to be the 2,000 Ravens, but damn, you can't give up 41. You can't give up 33 or whatever they gave up

against the commanders. But when you play the Giants, if you don't put the ball in harm's way, their offense can't consistently move the ball well enough to beat you because of that quarterback play. Now, they can dress it up all they want to and talk about it's the offensive line and those receivers. He is not a good NFL quarterback. It's really that simple.

The money aside, I don't care about the money. Hell, he's not a good quarterback for $20 million a year because the routine throws he can't make consistently. What you think? What? He's not a good quarterback for how much a year? $20 million? $15 million? he's not a good quarterback for how much a year? 20 million, 15. Hey.

Hey. He not, I mean, he just, it's just hard to win. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Every team, every team, it's 32 teams in NFL, and every team and just a quarterback away, a quarterback away from being good, a quarterback away from being in contention, a quarterback away of consistent quarterback play away from just being able to build and get your franchise going in the right direction.

But the thing about the quarterback position, as we know, and you know, and those that are not casual fans of the game know, that position is very difficult. It's the reason why they command the money that they do do. It's the reason they command the money, not command the money, but when the timing is off, sometimes you just have to pay a person because there's nothing out there for you. There's nothing else to go get.

They had no choice but to pay Daniel Jones at the time when it was time to pay him. I mean, where were you going? There was nowhere else to go. That's what I call timing being right. The timing was right. There were no other options, and he was the best option for you. But see, that's when you ignore what you had seen the previous two and a half years,

and you base everything on one season. They made the playoffs. But what did the previous two seasons tell you? So you ignore that and say, this is who he is. So you have a large sample size of who somebody is, but you take the small sample size. It's almost like being in a relationship. Your girl is giving you her ass to kiss,

except on your birthday. And you say, this is who my baby is. But what about the other 364? So what about the large sample size in which you've seen Daniel Jones play and you've seen the inefficiency and you've seen the ineffectiveness? Nah, we're going to disregard that. We're just going to say

this is who he is and this is who he can be. It's hard though. It's hard. It's hard. You know how difficult it is to find quarterbacks. Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks that you can win with. Quarterbacks that can play consistently week in and week out. That s*** is hard.

And they paid $40 million and they still haven't found one. You can win just as many games as they're going to win with a guy that makes $10 million. Yeah. Can you not? Yeah.

And see the thing is Ocho, he plays just well enough that you're like, man. Flashes. Okay, that's why we paid him. And then it goes back to no, something ain't right. Inconsistency.

We are we are what we repeatedly do. Therefore, it's not a singular act. It is a habit. What do you repeatedly do? If you look at Daniel Jones' body of work, what has he repeatedly

done? Played bad. He has more instances in which he's played bad, inconsistent, ineffective than he has playing good, being effective. You just said something really profound.

It's very simple, but we are what we repeatedly do, huh? Yes. Therefore, it is not a singular act boy it is a habit that one habits are what we repeatedly do not singular acts it was real simple and it almost got away from me but i had to rewind it and bring it back in and replay it. That's a good one. Cam Jordan believes that the greatest quarterback of all time is Drew Brees, not Tom Brady. Jordan shared his hot take on Armond St. Brown's podcast saying,

Drew Brees is the best quarterback of all time. There's nobody who has the completion percentage that Drew has. There's nobody that has the most 5,000-yard season that Drew has. It took Tom Brady an extra two years to break Bree's record. If you're talking about accomplishments, yes, Tom Brady. But if you want to look at stats, pat your stats, okay, put your stats because Drew got those. When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned.

Now after Tom retired, Tom Brady played another two years and broke most of them, I believe. I like the argument. I like the argument. You taking Drew over Peyton? Hell no. I mean, listen, I love the argument. This Cam Jordan, he's going to take up for his quarterback.

I like the argument. Then we talk about Drew B. Still one of the best. One of the best all time, no matter what. But now we're comparing him to the greatest of all time. So now you got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Cam, I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love how you can find ways to try to put your quarterback and shed a light to where you feel he's better than Tom Brady. But that's just not the case, no matter how you try to splice it. No matter what numbers you use, no matter what percentages you may use, Tom Brady's the best to ever play. There's not – I don't know if there's ever going to be a situation where right voters people put Drew over to our voters people I just don't know

now I'm just saying I don't I don't see a scenario where you know you're like yeah and it's not it's not a bad thing that we talk to Drew still one of the best of all time no but then we're you're comparing them to the greatest of all time so then there's a little bit there's a little bit of disconnect your Wi-Fi it ain't got all the goddamn bars

right right I agree but I think had right and you look at Drew's completion percentage, you look at those 5,000-yard seasons, had he had more Super Bowl appearances, now we can have an argument. He has an MVP.

Now we can have an argument. But with one Super Bowl appearance one uh a super bowl mvp yeah yeah i don't know how we get there ocho and he had like i said the completion percentage i think what he completes 70 of his passes he had four or five five thousand yard seasons and you know yeah he did have um what uh uh y'all passing yardage i think he might have had the touchdown record, but you needed a few more. I mean, let's just say he has three or he has two or three. Let's just say he has two Super Bowls, three MVPs. I was like, okay. I don't think he

quite did this, Ocho, but I can see what people will say. It's kind of like Tom has seven Super Bowls, five Super Bowl MVPs. He has five, yeah, five. And three regular season MVPs. Peyton has five regular season MVPs, two Super Bowl appearances with two different teams, and a Super Bowl MVP. But he has four appearances.

So he went two with the Colts, two with the Broncos. So you're like, okay. I think Drew would need something like that in order. Would need something like that. But I get looked. Yeah, always. That's your teammate. I got to rock my teammate.

Because they ask me, well, who do you want to be your quarterback, John? Man, why do you say it? Because I got Super Bowls with John and I got a gold jacket with John. Right. I mean, what y'all want me to say? I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but

ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago,

but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Patriots rookie Drake May and his girlfriend, Anna Michael Hudson, started dating when they were 12 years old. Ten years later, they're still dating. Ocho, do you remember your girlfriend from when you were 12 years old?

Remember, I told the story. I told the story. I thought she was my girl at the time. You know? Yeah. I told a story. I told a story. I thought she was my girl at the time. I let her get my crayons out of my 64 crayon box. I let her get the red shades and I went to PE and she was playing with somebody else at PE. So I thought she was my girl at the time. I think probably if she was loyal during those days, we would probably still be together today. No, I think we would because I loved her. I don't think you understand the importance of having a 64 box of Crayola crayons back in them days.

That was like having a Ferrari or a Lamborghini for us as kids 64 box of Crayola crayons and I gave you three of my red color shades three different shades of red I let you use them because you need to use them and when you go to pee

you playing with Timothy well Timothy said he needed a shade of red. Hey, boy, after that, when they came back to class, I took my goddamn crayons back. I ain't speak to everybody. I ain't speak to everybody for about two months. Don't even look my way,

you ugly ass. That's okay. That's all right. Timothy was talking to her. Timothy couldn't do nothing with her because he only had eight pack of crayons. Yeah, his parents didn't give him the 64 box. So that's the same as you just talked about that message

about 80-20. She left the 80 for the 20%. Yeah. But guess what? She said, you know what? Timothy said, I got eight pack and her you got 64 pack and nothing i'll take a pack of her because she's gonna do it hey listen the one thing about it if she did it to me she gonna do it to you it was that's okay uh i'm trying to think 12 but don't give me

the line 8 7th 8 don't give me the line probably 7th grade yeah I ain't saying nothing because I already told you my cast can go away a lot because I'm taking a lot of ish to my grave I just want y'all to know I'm gonna need some lot because I'm taking a lot of ish to my grave. I just want y'all to know, I'm gonna need some

strong brothers. I'm gonna need six of the strongest brothers y'all got because my casket gonna be extra heavy, Ocho. I'm taking ish to my grave. I'm taking it. So, oh no. I'm trying to twirl. Did I have to? Was I even,

man, not the seventh grade? Eighth grade? Nah. Yeah. Wasn't no girlfriend, you know. I mean, she had a boyfriend. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

He was on Demon Time back in the 60s, huh? Man, I was in the 60s, man. That was in the damn hell row with you. Hell row with you, man. Okay. 60, 70, it ain't long. Nah. What? nah no

yeah that's I mean I know some people that that day to day I mean was with their girl since they were like I don't know nobody been 14 I got a lot of classmates that Dated there, I mean, was with their girl since they were like 12, 13. I don't know. Nobody been that long. 14. I got a lot of classmates that married. Yeah, they married. Yeah, they've been together since they were like the 10th grade. But honestly, I don't know anybody.

And it's commendable for Brother Drake May to be able to be doing this. I don't think you understand. Everybody is fickle. In today's time? You think it's on to the next or everybody is replaceable? Everybody is replaceable no matter what. No matter what you may think or what you may feel about yourself.

Everybody is replaceable. They just bounce and bounce and bounce and just keep on bouncing until they find one that sticks. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I take my hat off to you, boy. Hey, Drake, you hail.

Oh, Joe, Russell Wilson is optimistic about potentially playing on Sunday for the first time during the 2024 season. I feel confident that I'd be ready to play and ready to play at a high level. I think we're being really smart too and trying to understand how it feels. It's my first week really back with the guys, and I feel really confident about that. Mike Tomlin said earlier in the week that there are multiple variables. He's weighed the decision throughout the week of practice,

but the door is ajar, which means ajar Ocho, which means slightly open. Wilson to be active on Sunday. You know, you always want me to lose it. Use the word in the sentence. Russ, I played a lot of,

I played a lot of football games and there've been a lot of moments. I don't fear them getting ready to go back. I like Russ getting the opportunity to play. I know Justin Fields has played, has played somewhat good this year. They started 3-0. They lost the last two. But offensively, it's not like they've been this awesome juggernaut of an offense

that's top three in the NFL, putting up outstanding, crazy numbers, where a change in the quarterback position would really affect the Steelers. Again, I like Russell Wilson. My personal preference, even though I'm not a Steeler fan, for that offense based on his resume, his last year in Denver was not that bad. Chad, if you look at the stats, you look at his numbers, his last year in Denver, it wasn't that bad. It was good.

It was decent. Maybe not the Russ that led the goddamn Seahawks to the Super Bowl, but if we can get a Russ of old, anywhere near the Russ of old, where you don't turn the ball over and you just do what we ask of you and not put the ball in the hands of the other team, they will be just fine. They will be just fine. The Commander's quarterback, Jaden Daniels,

has exceeded expectations to begin his rookie season, including those from his own teammate, Terry McLaurin. Talked about the quarterback's hot start with Albert Brisset. I did not anticipate him coming in and hitting the ground running like that. I played with a few quarterbacks and definitely a few rookies. Sometimes it takes some time to become comfortable in an NFL system, not just at practice. Then you go into the game and it's a different animal.

What's always encouraged me about him is his ability to get better every day in practice. When we would have a social practice, the next day he would not make the same mistakes twice. Same thing in joint practice. Then you get into the game and you see him getting better each and every week. I think it's a testament to the experience that he had in college,

but it's also his preparation he puts in. That dude works so hard, he's always prepared. I think it also has to do with where he came, where he came, what school he came, what school he's coming from. Being under the big lights, being at LSU, used to the large crowds, coming from a college team that is preparing you for the next level anyway. So all you had to do was do just that, hit the ground running. Based on everything you've taken from there, everything you've learned

since your adolescence, since you've been playing quarterback, you come on to the NFL, you put the right people around you. If you're the right situation you get what you're getting from Jane Daniels at such an early age even as I mean such an early age at such an early time even as a rookie but he had 55 stars yeah Joe do you know how many stars that is a good thing that's why he looked most time college quarterbacks their red shirt played two years they go that's why he look the way he do. Let's just say, let's just say, if you play for the national championship, you're probably playing 14 to 15 games. Obviously, he didn't play for the national championship.

So he's playing, basically, he's been a starter every since he walked into college to get that many starts. Yeah. So it's extremely impressive um it goes to show you the work that he's put in uh daniel's and completing 77.1 percent of his passes the highest among all starting quarterback he set a single game rookie completion record during week's 3-3 win over the Bengals connected on 91.3% of his throws. Young Bull looked like he'd been there before, man.

That's the only way. Him and him and CJ Stroud, they look like they've been there before. The Bears beat the Panthers. Hey! You saw Dave Williams today, huh? Dave Canales threw Bryce Young back in the game with 415 remaining and bryce took his first snap in the game since being benched after 0-2 oh so you mean

to tell me the quarterback situation that don't change anything huh oh on the first play he brought time and scrambling five miles sanders open for a 27-yard game. Canellas did a fantastic job and said Andy Dalton will remain the starter for next week against the Falcons. After the game, Bryce Young asked if the current situation lit a fire put in here. What'd you think, Ocho? Politically correct.

He's saying all the right things, but maybe that is just him though. You can tell from his, you know, his manner. That's his personality. The way he carries himself. That's just him, huh? That's his personality. Yeah.

I see. I can see. I can see. Cool dude. Real soft-spoken. Real soft-spoken. It just, you know, I think, I think he's going to get it. He's going to get the opportunity again.

I just hope his confidence is at whenever that opportunity presents itself, that he's ready mentally. I think it might be with the Panthers or if it's elsewhere. I hope he's ready.

Well, until they get some weapons, they're like, don't put me back in there because I ain't going to look no better because Andy Dalton, look at Andy Dalton numbers with those weapons. And everybody, oh, Andy Dalton. Look at Andy Dalton. We got a large enough sample

size to know what Andy Dalton is. Large enough. Plenty large. I don't care who quarterbacking. Ain't nobody. Look, you better be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady to make these receivers look good. I mean, listen. They got some nice. I mean, they got some boys over there. Now, once they get Adam Thielen back, they got Xavier Leggett.

They got Mingo. You know, they got some boys. They got Deontay. One target, one kick. They got Deontay Johnson. They got some nice little pieces. They just got to put that shit together. They got

to put it together. When you have question marks at a quarterback position, that means the receiver position and the tight ends have to be that much better than the quarterback. That's why he doesn't stand a chance. Because they're not.

They're not that much better. He ain't throwing to Kelsey and Laporta and Kittle and guys like that. He's not throwing to Justin Jefferson and Chase and guys like that. Even if you want to go, even if you take those top 10 guys out and go to the next 10, what guy, if I give you,

how many receivers are you going to go to before you take Deontay Johnson? Leg it, I get it, he's a rookie. But how many receivers and tight ends are you going to go through before you pick one off the Carolina roster? A bunch. That's rude. it's the truth though rookies look at what CJ

was throwing to he had Nico Tank Dale Noah Brownswell he had Dalton Schultz he had nice people which one of those guys are better than any of the guys that I named? On the Panthers? Yeah. Which one of those guys is better than Nico Collins,

better than Tank Dale, better than Dalton Schultz, better than, hell, Noah Brown? No. Comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah. And they stealing all the joy from Bryce Young. Cause they ain't doing it. I'm glad you brought that up.

I'm Michael Casson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.

It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?

No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. Well, you done took your glasses off, bro. You all right? Ocho, I don't know what to say about this show, bro. I'm running out of words, Ocho. At some point in time, Ocho, just got to stop now. Cleveland hasn't topped more than 18 points in a game this season. The Browns enter week five with the worst third down offense in the NFL, and they failed. They failed to convert all 12 of their third down attempts today with Deshaun in the game but hey I got a question listen what what's the issue

what's the issue is it is it is it mental is it is it the calling? I mean, what do you think it is? And I'm confused. I've been watching football for a long time, for a very long time. And the nosedive that I've seen from a personal standpoint of arguably maybe a top three quarterback when he was with the Texans to what the version of

Deshaun Jackson, the version of Deshaun Watson I'm seeing now, that's how? In such a short amount of time. How? Barring an injury, the only time, Ocho,

I can say I've seen this kind of drop-off from any kind of player, hold on, is through injury. Injury. If you have a significant injury, that would explain it. I could offer you, Ocho, man, you know the man tore his patella tendon. Ocho, you know the man tore his Achilles. He had back-to-back ACL surgery. Ocho, he almost had his shoulder ripped off the bone.

So that would explain the cataclysmic drop in his play. But I don't see an injury that would cause it. Yeah, it's mental. It's mental, huh? Listen, do you know how hard that is to get back, especially at that position? At the quarterback position? Yes, because it's mental.

If you messed up mentally here and at the quarterback position, you got the ball in your hands every time. So your judgment and your mind, it already got to be clear because if you judgment in your mind and you're not healthy as well on top of that, you'll never be able to play well. You'll never be able to excel in that position. I was thinking about it. I'm looking at

the earliest date. Well, god damn, I'm looking at the Browns, the Mark Cooper, you got Nick Chubb coming back soon, I think maybe two weeks, maybe one more. Njoku.

Elijah Moore, coming back soon. I think maybe two weeks. Maybe one more. Njoku. Njoku. Elijah Moore. You brought in a young bull. Damn. Why am I going blank right now? You brought in a young bull, Jerry Judy. I'm like, okay, we good. We good.

I'm talking about we good. I'm just saying as a fan, as a fan of Deshaun Watson, as a fan of some of these young bulls over there, man, that I enjoy watching, I'm like, okay, they're going to compete. They're going to compete. They're going to have a chance in the AFC North. And it's not what I envision based on what I've seen in the past. And I really can't put my hands on it on why they look the way they do.

Ocho, he don't even move the same. He don't look the same in the pocket. And I think, you know, look, I'm not here to try to rehash and rethink anything, but I think that weighed a lot on his mind. I think it weighed a hell of a lot on his mind. And he hasn't been the same, and I think everybody knows that. I'm not breaking news.

Ocho, you and I are not breaking news. Everybody knows. I saw the guy. His last year starting in Houston, he led the NFL in passing yards. He did that. I'm not so sure. Deshaun, he's a 28, 29, 30, 31st, 32nd. He's a bottom five quarterback currently.

Look at Joe Flacco in Indy. Look at what Joe Flacco did in Cleveland. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is, if I'm not mistaken, I think I read this, is eight days younger than Anthony Richardson's mom. Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, that old? Yes. Yes. Joe that O? Yes! Yes!

It's because I think sometimes, Ocho, when you have an image and then all of a sudden that image is not what was being portrayed and people start to like, you start to think, and then all of a sudden that image is not what was being portrayed, and people start to like, you start to think, how do they look at me now?

How do they perceive me? And that plays with you. Yeah. Because you're out in the public. Ocho, Anthony Richardson talked about being injury prone. I had a coach told me once, the best ability is availability. We know it's a game of football where everybody running 20, 25 plus miles per hour is a contact sport. It's a contact sport. You've got to be able to protect yourself, especially at the quarterback position.

Now, because you were injured last year, because you're injured now, you might have a hip injury or ankle, whatever it may be. They're going to call you injury prone. It's going to stick. And that label is going to stick, especially if it starts early on in your career. So you've just got to find a way to protect yourself, man. Listen, Anthony Richardson is a special talent. He's a special talent. He's a special talent. He has a chance, an opportunity to change the structure of that Colts franchise. You know?

I'm not saying he's going to be Peyton Manning, but he has a chance to get it going in the right direction, along with the other young quarterbacks like the Jayden Daniels, the CJ Strouds. We just need him on the field. We need him on the field healthy and upright. So I'm hoping he has a speedy recovery but um right now based on what we've seen the past two seasons you would be just that injury prone okay this okay this is where i'm gonna have to disagree with you what is it football is not a contact sport football is contact when two things collide that's contact right see contact is minimal like people collide football i heard somebody best describe football this way football is a lot

like nuclear warfare there are no winners only survivors wait what am i you don't win at football you survive the game you survive football because think about it you say if somebody ran into you at 20 miles an hour but you think about this people are running in you at 20 miles an hour over and over and over and over and over and over again 15 20 25 30 40 50 times a game. That's what I tell people. You want to know what it's like to play NFL football. Go to Lowe's and get your hard hat and put on your biggest coat and get 10 yards away from your garage.

Get five yards away from your garage and run into it as hard as you possibly can. 20 times. Okay, now do it again 30 times and then do it again 40 times. And I tell you what, just for good measure, come and do it again on thursday because you got a short week now you know what it's like to play football and everybody talking about he's soft he's soft yeah you wouldn't last one day let alone a season so stop it i love how people talk about he's soft bro you don't know what soft is. You soft for the drugs, no cotton.

All y'all out there bumping them guns. Yeah. Oh, he's soft. He's soft. He's scared. Bro, there's a reason why you on your couch talking. Now you know what I had to go through two times a year against the Ravens.

Two times a year against the Steelers. Bro! Yes! Two times a year against the Ravens. Two times a year against the Steelers. Bro. Yes. You know, I was able to do it without getting injured. For years. Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why I never got hurt? Yes.

Nutrition. What? Oh, Joe. The same way people that never drank get cancer the same way people that do eat certain things there are certain people that eat or eat whatever and never get a disease

but there are some people that eat everything boom so ain't no rhyme or reason Ocho what about the people that don't smoke and get cancer? Get lung cancer. Get throat cancer.

And there are people that been smoking 70 years. Take their last breath. Oh, well. He had a cigarette in his hand. Some people smoke 70 years, Ocho, and never get it. and there are people that never

smoke a cigarette or cigar never drank anything I just start trying to figure out why look this is the way it's intended to be let me make the most of my time while I'm here but Anthony Richardson you're going to have to learn how to get down because you're never going to be big

enough to run over those guys they'll break you bro they'll break you, bro. They'll break you. I understand you 6'5", 244, and you ran 4'4", 4'5". Yeah. He's going to be all right, though. He's going to be all right. Get him healthy. Stay on that field.

He's going to be all right. Yeah. I mean, you know what? because I'll block it for you Ochoa just like me I'll block it for you Ochoa on the jailbreak screen okay once you break that and you see all the three guys stop fucking running him stop calling plays where he's where he's run first they they got they got to change some of the play calling you know i understand he can take off because nobody's open that's one thing yeah design play runs i think when he got hurt if i'm not mistaken that might have been a design play run i if i'm not mistaken i don't remember no he broke he scrambled on that one. But, no, actually, he got hurt the play before.

Right. Because, remember, he got up limp and he scrambled and got up the play before. And the next one was a quarterback run. Was a denied run. That's on the goddamn course. Yes. But if I'm a defender, yes. If I'm a defender, if he ain't

protecting you, why the hell should I? They the one that's running you, I'm going to try to drop the helmet on you. Yes. So A, protect yourself, bro. Protect yourself. They not

going to protect you. Because think about it. They go a whole game. They already done said they can't put in the pocket. They got to put a blanket and get a nice little pillow and lay you down. They can't dump you like they used to. So once you get outside that pocket and you get past that line of scrimmage, boy, they trying to, ooh.

Boy, they're hunting that bad, man. For sure. I mean. I know I would. The rules are already in the offense's favor. So, eh. You know, the rules are like that because they want to keep the star quarterbacks on the field.

Defender Ocho. Well, it's your job. like that because they want to keep the star quarterback on the field. If I'm a defender, Ocho, well, it's your job. It's the offensive coordinator's job and it's his job to stay on the field because if you break that line of scrimmage, I'm trying to split your mofo down. I'm trying to because that greatly increases my chance

to win. Hey, I'm hitting you as hard as legal. Look, I don't want people to misconstrue this. I'm never going to hit anybody cheap unless you hit me cheap. Then I'm going to get you back. Yeah, I'm going to get my lick back. I just want you to know I'm going to get my lick back. But in that situation, I ain't going to hit him cheap. But boy.

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