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Episode Date: February 3, 2026

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Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Oh, Joe, we got a special guest. We got a special guest. We got a special guest, Joe. He got a hat on. He probably should have had that hat on in the fight.

He probably should have had that hat on in the fight, and we never knew what we saw, and it wouldn't have happened. I know y'all got jokes. I got jokes to y'all, too, man. Well, we got jokes. We got jokes, just when you think you've seen everything that could have possibly happened in a fight. Jarrell Big Baby Miller say, you know what?

I bet y'all never seen this. I bet y'all ain't never seen anything like this here. Hey. Oh, oh, come to do. Come on. Maybe, baby, baby, you ain't going to put it back? I'm going to leave it like this. I'm going to rock out grab these checks right now for a few weeks before.

Okay, okay. Hold on. You ain't got the glue out of that? Hold on this right here. What that is right there? I know that's my real. That's my real hair. I got real.

head, man. That's the line up, uh. That's the real head. Let me ask you this. Before we get to the fight, you know they told you, if you get that glue, you can't get that thing wet, you can't sweat. Why would you go do that a day before a couple of days before the fight? First of all, you know, when you go to a Bible, you want to take as a professional advice and believe what he's saying. My man said he's going to slap the tape up there and he's going to slap the glue up there. They're going to be double reinforced. So I assume what he's saying is going to be facts. It's going to be true. Boy, that boy hit me up Sunday. All I had was, all I felt was 18. I said, oh, no, this is it. I think this thing is coming up.

I said, I think we might be screwed right now. Hey, man, when they say you pull up on the scene with the top missing, boy, that's what they meant? I said, oh, my. So when did you know, when did you know it had started to pull, it had started to sleep away from the county? Oh, man. So, all right, so first I kind of felt this.

So I had my left glove on my, on my right side of my left side of my, You try to hold it down, huh? Right, goddamn. He tried to hold it down. But I said, no, I don't think it happened. But then when I sat down and my coach is giving me instructions, he'll never stutter. He stutter like two, three times. And then I've seen his eyes look down at me.

Then look up, then down and look up. I said, oh, shit. I think it went up. But I know he's trying to stay focused. Right. But I say, you know what, God? I said, if I look at the Jumbotron and this thing is up and they replay it, then I know I'm screwed.

And so says, so done. when I looked up, I said, oh shit, I'm screwed. I say, you know what? We're going to roll with it. WWU style. And I just took it off, through it to the crowd. And then the first thing he said was, yo, you get your ass whoop. I said, I'm getting my asswood.

And I'm losing my head. I said, you got to rock out. I said, we got to rock out with this one. Hey, so after that point, after your coach told you that, obviously, you took the hairpiece off. What was your thought process after that going, going into the rest of the fight? Man, just win. Just win. This win.

Because I know I've been off a year and a half layoff and the ring rusts caught up to me. And I thought everything would have been good. I felt like I could have knocked them out a couple of times in the fight. But for some reason, I just wasn't pulling the trigger. You know what I'm trying to say? So I said, you know what? My cousin now I say, yo, just get the win. Just get the win.

And we're going to go back to the drawing board. And that's what I did. You know, thank God. You know, I went to got that win. And I'll be back to the drone board. Yeah, mostly I think. With, was it, baby, big baby, was it distracting? Did you, did you know like, well, damn, I ain't really fighting?

I'm trying to keep this thing on and trying to punch and trying to dodge punches. Man, I just need to, hey, the hell with this. That's it. 100%. You know, we off on the block, man. You know, one thing our brother's going to do is we're going to get caught out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, you're going to get clown.

And you got your ass walk for you. Yeah. I got married. So I said, you know what? Forget the hair. We're going to roll with the punches. get this wind and I take it after that, you know. And God, I'm going to say, God, God, God, God, God,

God, God, God, God, whatever I do this weekend, let me get through this weekend, man. I know you ain't going back to that barb again. That man told you a dream because you can't get that wet. Yo, listen, he sold me more than a dream. He sold me my future. And then all of a sudden, I see, he'd go up and smoke. Well, you know, listen, I break my cousin, too.

That he was your way, bum, but my barber nights. he ill with it. I said he got the joints. Oh, yeah, yeah, he got the unit. Oh, he's going to have that thing. Oh, my cousin, right? I'm going to put him on blast. He's right there on the couch. It's him. He said, he got the joints. I said, I bet. Let's go over there because what happened was I got here.

Yeah. But, you know, I went to a ball, you know, they get a little enhancement, a little touch of here. You know, I went to one of those spanish spots. Yo, my man hit me with the double spray cans on both times. So, you know, I'm rocked out on the front. on a Saturday, I said, let me try to get it to like a Monday. So I was putting a du rag on and went to sleep and all that. I guess that chemical must have dried my hair.

Everything started breaking off by like Tuesday. So I get to New York on Wednesday now. I'm like, I'm trying to do a haircut. I'd be like, yo, pa, you ain't too much hair to cut back here. I said, oh, no. I said, slap the joint on them, man. Let's do it. Let's just do the day again.

Because you know that they cut everything, so it's supposed to be like skinning. And then you say, they put the tape. But normally they just put the glue. But they're supposed to tell you you can't get this wet and you can't sweat. Your uncle, he said he's going to put the tape and he's going to put the glue.

I said, okay, it ain't going to move. I said, all, cool, but he ain't known for another big brother like me. You don't get your money back. Oh, man, shit. Everybody's like a half. He didn't pick his phone up since. And use that piece again. I mean, you ain't get your money worth out of that one.

Man, listen, the piece got lost in the crowd. Somebody says on eBay for like five grand. I said, who? I want my damn piano. Hey, baby, I'm getting ready to get one of those, too. I'm getting ready to get one of those two for, you know, listen. When I go on a live show with Unc, and we go on the road,

I'm going to get the hairpiece. I want the kind of like all the way where it's kind of an afro, but it's, I'm talking about it's waves. I want mine to look sick. Oh, you want, you want the wave. I'm about waving, maybe. The 360, you want the 360. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So, listen, listen. What we need to do is we need to go to Vietnam real quick, and we get our own line of man we've. We come up with our own lines, bro. We call it the O and J. We call the OJ lines. We should do that.

We're killing it. I'm serious, though. I'm doing mine. The OJ line. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, big baby, that's going to go over too well. Good. Come on.

Yeah, but I'm saying that OJ, we're killing it. Oh Hey, I just caught on. I just caught on. Yeah. Come on. Soon on soon later, they're going to hear me out.

You did? But let me, so, but you got hair on the side is just the top because, well, they have you used the follicles?

Man, we lose everything, man. It just broke off, man. We got to start fresh. You can really see, I got some new growth

coming out already. Look, but see, I was going to say, go to Turkey and get, But if you got hair back here, they can pluck it and then implant it. But I don't know if you got enough hair back that big baby.

Bro, listen, I did the turkey thing. I had fixed my headline a few years ago. What happened? That should hurt. Man, I don't know. Wait a minute. Hey, hold on. You can go to Turkey and you can get your headline fix?

Yeah, you get all that fixed to Turkey, man. That's your hurt. What about my beard? What about the texture of your hair? Man, they do all that. They do all that. I was blessed with that. Thank God.

If I have no beard, man, I might have been screwed. but, you know, they can do all that, though. They can't grow no heart. They'll be using an ultra pubic hair and underarm hair for a hair on his head. Hey, baby, I want like a, I want a beard. Like, you know, like I'm from Philly. I want to feel it all the way in. Man, well, right now you got to think about the only other hair you can use

to put on your face is going to be the hair on your nuts. That's what I told him. Pubic hair, yes. Oh, no, no, I'm good because I'm, and all that lint, ain't going to be nothing but some lid up in there. No, I'm, I'm, I'm good. I'm good. Nah, baby, eat tripping. Make sure you better be crab free because you put some crab with your face.

I eat, eat, but, you know, my hair grow straight because the texture, because I got Cherokee and skin. So, like, if you got a girl, you got a, you got a wife, like my hair grow like Brazilian curly. Yeah, so it curl up, huh? Man, you could sell that shit. To every pubic three inches, you can use against a grand for that. I would sell that shit, man. I'm with you.

Let's go. We got to make a check. Don't you think if that man had luscious? just locks like that, he'd have facial hair, his hair wouldn't be shine at the top. No, because I don't like maintenance. I want to be able to get up and go. I don't like maintenance.

Listen, I've watched his Ocho Shingo for many years. My man loved to save his money. So if he could shave his head himself, he's going to save a dollar. So maybe that's a footprint I need to follow. Because I spend several hundred hours for this shit. Seven hundred. So I, so I.

Seven hundred. Hey, did you feel something hit you in the back? Did something hit you in the back when you walked out of the shop? That was $6.50. I ain't going to lie. When I first seen it, when it got done, I was proud of it. I was like, oh, yeah. Because that thing was hot talk.

That thing was nice, big baby. It was nice. It was fly. It was fly. It was fly. It was fun. juices and berries in that shit. I ain't going on front.

It was nice. It was nice. It was nice. But God had other plans to me. Yeah, but you, but as much of the boxer sweats, ain't no way that thing was going to hold. Even though he told you he's going to double tape it and double glue it. It's not going to hold with that kind of perspiration.

All those bright lights, you moving around, that thing going to lift. Honestly, I was supposed to get hit that much. What damn? You were in a fight, bro. But I usually don't get hit that much, not that much. I mean, I got hit a lot. Yeah, you did. I mean, that thing was like rock and rock and rock, him from rock, big baby.

Bro, that boy, but he lumped me up. I ain't going to lie. That pretty much is tough. because my eye hurt, my nose hurt, my air got stitches in it, home week, gave me cauliflower, I had in the hospital for four hours getting my head's brain. So yeah, man, he got my ass a little bit. What's next?

How much time you're going to take off? Who do you think about fighting next? Is there somebody you want to see in your next fight? Well, there's a couple offers that came to me today about six weeks from now, which is a little too quick only because of my air injury. But I'm thinking eight weeks, seven to eight. eight weeks, I want to fight again, you know, because I'm ready.

I'm about, I'm going to get another 20 pounds down. I want to be a solid of 300. I want to get my cardio, my fitness back in the gym. But, you know, time is ticking, man. I want to go. I want to go. How much you weigh coming into this play? 317.

Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad. Yeah, but it's, see, the problem is when I was five years younger, six years younger, at 317, I was still throwing 70 points in the round. And I had knockout stir. I fought the cruiserweight champ, knocked them out in the third. third round. Then I for another one contender, knocked them out of 315. So a little older

now. I say, you know what? It ain't the same no more. I got to get this way down, man. And it gets harder. You know, Anger's knees. It gets harder. It's getting older, big baby, to get that weight, because we, wait that we can get off in two weeks, three weeks a month. Maybe is there a name? Is there a name

somebody you want to fight next? Or you just it doesn't matter? Um, there was a guy from, he's a Cuban. He's number, right, number one. It was Pado, something. He's Cuban in Miami. Uh, he's It's a good brother. Oh, he's down here? Yeah, he's in Florida.

You know, I'm almost seeing Florida. I'm mostly in Florida. I'm going to Delaware. Okay, okay. But I'm in New York. I'm in New York and my momah house because I got my ass with a little bit, so I want some home cooking, you know, I'm trying to ease my pain a little bit. Hey, that's why you're free 17, you got to stop eating Mama's cookie. Yo, stop.

Don't, don't, listen, let me live for a day. Shit, I lost my, I lost my hair, man. So, you know, my mama cooking, go give me some confidence, you know, so, you know, once I get a warm meal for a day or two of them back. Hey, you got to get rid of this, though, man. You got to get rid of this. I'm good. The only reason I ain't cut it yet is because my four-year-old son was laying on my head,

and he's rubbing his daddy. I love it. And then, you know, I told him to my boy, he said, you know, keep it for a little bit. We did a bunch of TV shows and stuff today. And they said, you know what, man, I'm going to rock out for, like, five more days. That's dope. You know, we'll get a shave and endorsement company, then we're going to shave it on TV or something.

I don't know. We're going to figure out. But will your hair grow back here? Will your hair grow back in the back? Will it grow? I think most of it will grow, but it definitely was a pitch patch from the chemical burn.

So that's the problem now. So I'm going to grow it and see how far it's going to get to and maybe we'll be smack some sea mars or some black seed oil. I'll catch the oil back there, some zinc and magnesium and some of that Haitian stuff and see what happens.

Let me ask you a question. At any point in time where you were embarrassed, you're like, damn, they're going to climb my head. When I get back to the crib, man, they're going to let me have it. I made peace with it the minute I seen on the government. The minute I looked up, I said, it's like, I kid you not, I kid you not. It was like, I had a permission from God. I said, I'm roasted.

And God said, boy, you better run with that shit. And I just ran with it. And that was it. Ever since that moment, I can't. I've always been a kind of person, never cared about people. Anybody know me, no. I'm always been a clown. I'm always clowning myself.

I'm always clowning my cousins. Like, I come from a big family, you know. In New York alone, I probably got like a hundred. and cousins, like blood-related cousins. So, you know, we get together. It's a Roast session. So I'm more scared of them than media any day or the week.

Because I can't beat my cousins up. Yeah, because you see them all the time. The people in the media, and everybody like, hey, I remember you, you're the one that your top, you know, your top came off. But your cousin happened just now. But they're going to let you have it.

Yeah. Yeah. We're in a restaurant just now in the city and three people's like, aren't you big baby with two pay? I left my cap up. They started dying and take it. That's cool. That's funny. You know what I mean?

I take it for what it is. You know a good sport about it. But the best thing to happen is that you won. Yeah. You can't lose your toupee and get your ass kicked in the same night. Uh-uh. Man, what was the comedian? What's his name?

Garfrey? He said, you got a two-piece, two-piece. Two-piece, two-pay. I say, you know what? These jokes are going to keep coming at me, but, yeah, at least I got the win. You got the win. Real Big Baby Davis had a very eventful heavyweight fight. He won the fight.

Roll, right? Miller, excuse me. Oh, Big Baby Davis is in jail. He's in jail. You stole that bad day. Hey, no, big, uh, Big Baby Davis, though. Big Baby Miller.

Bro, you won the fight, but you know they'll never, this is going to be forever. You do realize your kids' kids is going to see Grandpa and that piece come off. That's all good, though. All that matters is we keep winning in a life, man.

We get that championship belt. Like I says, I got three beautiful kids. I got a big family. I got my health. You know, we get into this bag, man. And like I said, entertainment. You know, great sport about it, man.

Boxing is not going to last forever. You know, my main goal is getting TV, you know, rather be movies, commercial entertainment. I love Shaq. Like, Shaq is like, like, I'm like, you know. And what he's done outside of basketball is what made me so, you know, infatuated with that man, man. Because he's such a, he don't say so much,

but he does so much with his pressure. That's what I want to be one day. Something like a shackle of rock. Well, you definitely got the entertainment side. You definitely, uh, go out and you're an agent and you can definitely do commercial. You, you definitely have the personality. You have the spirit. Oh, thank you, brother.

Thank you, bro. Obviously, this boxing thing, you want to see how far you can take this boxing thing, but I definitely think you have a career in entertainment. Absolutely. Man, you got a good agent. Let me know. Oh, Tyro! Jarrell, Big Baby Miller won the fight, lost the two-page,

Congratulations on the success. And come back, start back by and hollas at us again soon. Thank you, Uncle. I appreciate you guys, man. Much of him, man. Ocho, man, this dude here, man,

he was unbelievable. He was a great sport about it. At that point in time, like he said, I mean, what could he do? You're in a fight, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. You're in a fight. And, you know, he's like,

man, I'm trying to hold it down with my right hand. I'm getting punched. I can't punch. You're like, man, let me get, hey, this thing's going to cause me get my ass with. You know what? Something like that couldn't happen to a better person because he has the right personality. He has the right personality for something like that to happen based on his background, having that big family and knowing what comes with it.

Listen, I'm not worried about what the rest of the world going to say. I'm worried about my cousins. I'm worried about my family. I'm worried about them jokes. I ain't worried about nobody else. But the fact that he won the fight, it makes everything, it kind of balances everything out. Because if he had lost something, if you had lost and your two. And lost his toupee?

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not what you're on, Joe. Hey, we get together. Us. Oh, yeah. People that look like us.

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's going to happen. We joaned. Hey, them jokes going to fly. Absolutely. Listen, whether you want or not, the fact that you want is cool, but you're going to get these jokes. All day, every day. When we get together with my former teammates, be it, where I go back home or Savannah State,

we get together or my former Broncos. Right. Like, shh. What? We start breaking us to, Hey, ma'am, but you remember with such and such?

Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. But that's just how we are. Like I said, you go to a HBCU. If you didn't have thin skin, you couldn't survive at HBC.

Oh, yeah, absolutely not. You could. Absolutely not. You couldn't. Man, he, but his personality, Ocho, he definitely can, he definitely can do something outside of boxing. Oh, yeah.

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Another team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese. Oh, it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did he both of Nick's at?

He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation?

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcast or whatever you get your own. podcast. Ocho, Adam Schaefter reports that the Browns will hire Travis Switzer to become the next offensive coordinator on Todd Munkin's

staff. Switzer and Munkin are both making the move from Baltimore to Cleveland. Munkin was the offensive coordinator for the Ravens the last three season, while Switzer spent nine seasons with Baltimore. He was the run game coordinator for the last two season and quality control assistant and analyst

before that. Switzer, is it Switzer or Switzer? Switzerland does not have any experience calling plays and Monkey will likely reveal how the team will handle this at his introductory press conference tomorrow. Monkin's going to call the plays. What do you mean? What do you mean how are we going to handle that? Todd Monkin is going to call the plays.

Right. That's what he told when he told, we got with Andrew Barry and Mr. Haslam and D. He said he's going to call the plays. So the new hire, what is the new hire going to do? If he has a, if he has a title. Huh? Has the title. That's it.

You just had the title. Just like, who called the plays, who, there was an offensive coordinator in Denver. Who called the plays? Sean Payton. Sean Payton. There was an offensive coordinator. Mike LaFluo was the offensive coordinator with the Rams.

He got the head job that the Cardinals. Right. Who called the plays for the Rams? Sean McVey. Missing Bay. Coordinators being at San Francisco. Who called the plays? Kyle Shanahan.

In hand. So I don't know what at the introductory press conference. He has a title of an officer coordinator. He can't call it no plays. Right. Hey. And I don't have a problem with that, Ocho. No.

No, not at all. Matt Nagy had the job of officer coordinator for Kansas City. So did Eric B. enemy. Who called the plays, Ocho? Mr. Reed. So I'm just, I'm confused why we got to have an introductory press conference. Like, okay, we hired an officer coordinator.

Oh, we're going to see who going to call the plays. Tom Monk is going to call the plays. Yeah, I mean, and I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, it doesn't take a press conference for that. Right. But obviously, new coach, protocol, media. Look, I don't have no problem.

Basically, your ghost, I ain't got no problem with no ghost writers. Right. I don't you? Yeah. And I think people, as we move further and rap and this hip hop and this rap industry, Ocho, we're getting a way where people are not looking down

on ghost writers as much. It's still a thing. I mean, I look. Everybody ain't come up like they did, like Big Daddy Kane and all those guys, and KRS one, all those guys are doing cyphers and spitting on command. Everybody didn't come up like that.

So the further and further you get away from that, the more, I mean, that was real hip hop. Yeah. That was absolutely frowned upon. But now I don't think it's as bad as it, what's was. I don't think it's demonized as much as it was. Go ahead. What do you want to say? No, I'm right. You're right. You're right. I'm going to say, especially when it comes to the male and the female, depending on who the rapper is, if you have a ghost writer, it's still frowned upon

hugely. I never really understand it. Obviously, I'm not in that world. All I know is I listen to the finished product and enjoy. But for those who are, who are enthusiasts in the hip hop world and hip-hop culture. I didn't know that they hated people having ghost writers. I didn't know it was such a bad thing, but I come to find out it is. I look at love. I mean, some of the greatest comedians have what, Ocho? Help with writers. Ghost writers. Writers, yeah. Some of the greatest songwriters. Some of the greatest song. You see how they do it? Now, look at, I wouldn't if people, I wouldn't if somebody wrote for Whitney or Mariah or Ritha

or Patty or Gladys or Stephanie or Luther Sam Cook Donnie Hathaway Usher I wonder if anybody wrote for Sinatra you think they won't for Sinatra Dean Martin

Yeah Hope hello Quincy Jones What about Adele? You think anybody help Adele? What about Lady Gaga? What about Lady Gaga? Mm-hmm. What's the

one that lost the life. What's the one that lost their life? The Viscetti went from, uh, hey, hold on. You tried to, who? No, no, no, they tried to send me to rehab. I said no, no, Amy Winehouse. Amy Winehouse. Oh, yeah. Legends. Some of the greatest voices of all times, but only a rap. You ain't no real rapper. Yeah, they say a rap is different, huh? They say when it comes to rap, you can't have a ghost writer. It has to be authentically your thoughts. You notice how. You notice how everything is different in our community. No other community have that. You notice that, Ocho? I ain't think about it like that.

I don't. We hold ourselves to a standard that no other race of people hold themselves to. And then you wonder why we don't work together. But okay. Think about it, Ocho. We'll hold ourselves to a standard that no other race, no

other genre of music will hold themselves to. Right. Do you think it's different? when it comes to different genres of music, it's okay if you R&B, if you soul, if you neo-soul. Black R&B, white R&B. Right.

But I'm saying when it comes to rap, do you think it's a little bit different in that lane where you just... Us. Us is different. Right. Okay, I got you. I got you.

I got you. That's the difference. But you each is on, hey. Damn. Man, listen, if I was a rapper, I'm definitely going to have some help. You know, somebody's vision, somebody's ideas might be better than mine.

I mean, everybody can't go in the booth and just hit a 16 right off the top of the head. Everybody can do that. I agree with you 1,000 percent. But they, to each his own. Yeah. Each his own. That's what, you know, hey.

But I don't, look, Mike LaFleur didn't call play. Sean McBade did. Yeah. And there have been a lot of coordinators that have gotten jobs by not calling plays. And that's one of the thing that you were speaking to, Ocho.

You was like, okay, we want somebody to call plays, but you're hiring somebody that never called plays. But you use that against some that said, well, he didn't call the plays. Well, the guy that you hired before him didn't call plays either. And it wasn't an issue. It's all on who you know.

Yeah. Some people can be overqualified and they still don't want to. want you. But I'm going to hire my friend who doesn't call plays, but I'm going to give him this title because that's my dog and I'm going to make sure he has a job. Again, the game within the game. Yeah, it is. Boy, the Browns, I sure hope they can get it right. What you thinking? I hope so too. I know what's going to be good over there. I know that. That goddamn defense. That defense is going to be good. Now, offensively, I'm not.

not sure what's going to happen. It was good last year. Yeah. It takes a team now, Ocho. You used to be really dominant on one side and be so-so on the other side, not today's game, Ocho. Yeah, no. Not today's game.

When you first got into the league, middle way through, you could have a dominant defense and be okay offensively. Right. That ain't happening no more, Ocho. That ain't happening no more. Yeah. What you're thinking? I mean, you said you hit the nail right on the coffin.

Wait, no, you hit the nail on the head. Wait, how'd you go again? You hit the nail on the head. Oh, yeah, you hit the nail on the head. Yeah, that was the final nail in the coffin. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, I mixed it up, I mix it up. Yeah, you can't drive a tack nail with a sledgehammer.

The same way you can't drill a spike nail with a tack hammer. Hmm. You don't know what a spike nail and attack nail. Yeah, but, but, you can't drill a spike nail with a tag hammer. But, you know, I used to be a carpenter. I know about that. What you using spike nails and carpenter for? You don't spike, don't big on spiked nails?

Yeah. I, boy, I used to do demo. Demo? Yeah, I used to demolition housing and put in build houses. Oh, Lord of that, mercy. Yeah. Who in the hell let you build a house? Uh-huh.

And I went to school for that. I had a plan B. That was my plan B. construction I don't know, Ocho You ever did no construction in your life Who, but, uncle, look at my hand Hold your hands on, let me see your hand

No, you ain't got no damn caliards You ain't done no damn capriced You don't see all them calluses Hell no I don't Look at it, look at my hands You ain't, you ain't did no cross-tide You ain't pouring no concrete You ain't laid no asphalt

Hey, Unk, I didn't, I didn't do about 30, about maybe two or three rules in Miami To what rooms? Roof, roof. I used to do roofing and all. I can lay a roof on. I'm telling you.

But get that tart eye in there. You know, got the mask on for the smell. Man, you ain't did know what you call them. You ain't know how to do no right. You don't know how to do no. I'm going to see you. I'm going to see you a clip of my work. I know you ain't been on a new damn roof.

It don't know hot-ass roof in the summer in Miami. No, we have, we have fans. That's a hard-ass job. First of all, anything that's manual and it's outside. Oh, it's difficult. It's hard. Especially out here. You get the elements.

You get the cold. I mean, construct, you get cold. You get heat. You know, a lot of times it gets so hot. And like in southern states, it gets so hot. I mean, in Vegas, they work from like midnight to like 6 a.m. Yeah. Because it's so hot during the day.

I mean, it's a, on, in the pavement, black top, you're talking about 120, 130 degrees. Woo! So they got to let the sun go down. And so when the traffic, so you're basically working in, you know, probably somewhere between 10 and 6. Right. Maybe get your eight-hour shift then. But on the side, it's the same thing.

I mean, they work at night because it's so hot during the day, Georgia, California, Georgia, Texas, you know, Mississippi to southern states. You ain't doing that, don't you? I'm just telling you. I know you're not going to believe me, but I'm a man in many talents, man. Well, it's funny that you couldn't fix that damn camera, but you can fix everything else. Well, the camera work now. You notice that?

We didn't have no issue. Yeah, because somebody came in and fixed it. Not you. Ain't anybody come out? I fix it. Can I tell you how I fixed it? Call it somebody? No, I just watch YouTube.

Hey, all I do is God dang it. Hey, we had no Elgado problems in a minute. Now, we had no Elgado. We had no Elgado. So we had Elgado probably about a month, don't you? Yeah, because I ain't had a damn settings the right way, man. And that's why I kept cutting off. But no, it's going to be interested.

Look, I'm anxious to see what the Browns does. It looks like Shador is going to start at QB1. Hopefully, you know, they put, get some weapons around him. They get them some better protection as far as offensive line. I like what they have running ball, Judkins running the football. But look, they need some weapons. They need weapons. They need offensive line protection.

And so I think that's the kind of the direction that they're going to go in to try to make sure they get this thing going. because look, we'll see what the Steelers do. Does Aaron Rogers come back? They got a new head coach. Mike McCarthy. Baltimore has a new head coach and mentor. And Zach Taylor is still there. We'll see what they can do.

Can they get it right? I think this is probably going to be his last year, Ocho. Zach? Yeah. If they don't make the playoffs, make a deep playoff run, Joe getting frustrated. I think Joe getting frustrated. with it, Ocho.

Don't you? Yeah. He said he wants to win. He does. He's addictive, Ocho. So is losing, though. You got to do his part. That's all he got to do.

You got to do your part. Got to be got to. Hey, every Sunday. All 18 games, I need you. All 17. I need you. For sure. Yes. You got to give him some better protection.

You got to be, I mean, some of his stuff is like freaky. I mean, you know, the risk, I didn't even see where he, like, he heard you, like he was just throwing the ball and he said like he did that to his wrist. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to go bother all them boys.

I'm going to see all them boys tomorrow. I'm going to bother him. Oh, Joe, I thought Joe, that's like, hey, Joe, we need you. And I mean, think about it. I ain't hear nobody say, Joe Flackold they deserve to be in the pro bowl like they were saying should do her.

You notice that, don't you? Yeah. So where are all these people saying, oh, she do or doesn't belong. Joe Flack will belong in the promo? You know, people got selective. Stygots here. I have a podcast empire.

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Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese. Oh, it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now, then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did his vote Knicks at?

He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation? He should be in it.

Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network. work on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Oh, Joe, Drake May, who was injured with his right throwing shoulder in the AMC championship game said he took a normal number of throws at practice today and that the recovery has turned a corner leading to the Super Bowl. I'm really good. I'll be just fine, May said before Winket.

I think I turned the corner landing on the flight, felt good from the flight. Throwing out there today, I really had no doubt being 100% for the game. It's Super Bowl. You get two weeks prepared for it. You do whatever you have to do to get right, and I've got confidence, and I feel good. He said, looking forward to a normal week of prep practices Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. That's a good thing. He's feeling good.

Then he's going to get some rest before the game. They're not going to throw a shoulder out. They're not going to throw him too much with their soreness, but you want to get the bulk of the work. You want to get the meat and potatoes of your game playing in before you give him time, the rest before that game. So he's going to be okay. And obviously, you know, he has the access to the best, to the best rehab and treatment to make sure there's no soreness after the practices. Obviously, you have your masseuses and all the laser and all that, you know, crazy stuff that they have access to now. So he's definitely going to be all right.

I think you have a, I mean, don't y'all look, you have a normal prep. Whatever you do at a normal Wednesday when you're back at your place, that's what you do. You just, it's a lot of, it's a, it's a, it's a bit different because, okay, we got curfew, not curfew, we got, they served as breakfast and they served as lunch. They gave us a per diem for dinner. We were on our own for dinner. Right. You got curfew. So once we got back, we were done.

I mean, once we got back to the hotel, so we had from basically probably four o'clock until 11. Mm-hmm. So we got down there on a Sunday. We had curfew at 1.30. Monday we had curfew at noon I mean at midnight after that we had it was 11 a.m. because we're on a normal

we were on a normal schedule and you just I mean meeting rooms is conference rooms and things like that so it's a little different and you know you got a room where okay you want to watch some extra film right instead of you take it home there's a room that you can watch extra film you know you play video games they got video games they got pool tables they got ping pong tables

they have ice hockey I mean you try to you try to make it as normal as possible but normally we're not I don't stay in a hotel leading up to a game so and and you're in a different city but that's that's it and you know you try to make it as normal as possible but it's not you know it's not everybody knows it's not a normal game you don't stay in a hotel the night before the week before a game the whole week you might go that Saturday night ohcho right did y'all stay at a hotel Saturday night before the game yes we had to stay even if whether we're playing home or way we had to stay in hotel. Okay. Now you're in a hotel Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night,

Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night. So for seven nights, you're at a hotel where it's normally one. Yeah. I mean, but that shouldn't, I'm hoping that shouldn't be an inconvenient. No, no, no, no, you try to get, you try to, you try to make it as normal as you possibly can. Oh yeah. Yeah. You have your big meeting, your offensive meeting, then you break up into your individual meetings. Right. What we did is that we installed, we put everything that we, We were going to do in the game. Right. We put it in the week before.

Okay. So once we got to San Diego, once we got to Miami, once we got to Tampa, everything was a dress rehearsal. Steve. Let's go. Yeah. You already done gone on this. No mistakes.

Mm-hmm. I got to get that tape. Boy, I was cooking. Oh, that first one-on-one period. Uh-huh. I don't get that tape. I was cooking, Ocho. Your boy was cooking.

Your boy, a boy running that dick. You were like, damn, you're running things like that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to take. As a matter of fact, when I get up here, I'm going to say BP, I need to put that, put together that Super Bowl tape when we was in San Diego.

I was cooking. I felt good. I got to see that. I got to see that. Oh, Ocho, you're going to be like that. Ain't no tight ain't no time running around like I. Ain't no tight enough running like I was running then. And they ain't running like that now.

I promise you. Okay Talk your Hey Let it know Okay That what I'm talking about Yeah

Yeah There was a good old day That was a good old day You were the good old day You went Hold on What were y'all You're all

Your Super Bowl in indie Right What was your Subbo was in indie Yeah I forgot I forgot what we played I think y'all played

In indie That was in 20 I'm trying to think That was 2011 2011 2012

Maybe Let's see Y'all lost the Super 8, 2000, okay, 2007, they lost the Super. Yeah, I can't even remember when we played it. Steelers. It might have been, it might have been 2010.

What year was, I think it was 2010. Because 2011 was the Packers and, and, and, and, and the Steelers in Dallas. 2012 was the, the Ravens and the John, and the 49ers. What year, what year, was it, 2010? No, what year was, was that, 2002, 2009? And the 2010 year, but 2009 that the, uh, the Giants and the Patriots, they played again, they played twice. So I think that was in, uh, that was, uh, that was an indie.

Because I remember being there, because I did a thing for KFC. As a matter of fact, I went to somebody housing. We had, they delivered KFC, Ocho. For real? Yeah, he did. Yeah, it was. Okay, yeah. So it was a 2011 season to 2012.

It was the 2012 that it actually happened. Okay, yeah. As a matter of fact, that was the first year for the NFL honors. That was the first year for NFL honors. Oh, Chow, things got a little shaky today in San Francisco head of the Super Bowl. Over two dozen earthquakes of magnitude 2.5 or above jolted the Bay Area. In total, more than 40 quakes struck in the area this morning, ranging the magnitude from 1.3 to 3.9.

Oh, Cho? Yes, sir. You know, the weather can impact the game. Sometimes we normally think of rain, sleet, wind. Earthquakes don't normally come into play unless we go back to the 1989 World Series between the Giants, if I'm not mistaken, and the Giants and the A's. That was the Bay Series. Yeah. So we're going to get a little impact.

We don't get a look. The first time in Super Bowl history, maybe a little quake. I don't think so. But my little bit of knowledge about earthquakes and the equator and all that stuff and the imbalance, I don't know much about it. I'm not one to sit here and talk about it, but I don't think it's something that will continue to happen,

you know, over the rest of the week, especially on Super Bowl Sunday. Hopefully, you know, earthquake has gotten what it need to get out. right now before the game did it. And there are no more interruptions. I'm not sure if we have any people in the chat that have a better understanding of why earthquakes happen regards to what magnitude it is.

But let's hope. Let's hope and pray that there are no more. It definitely nothing of a huge magnitude that can not only damage the city, but ruin that good game that we're looking forward to on Sunday. Have you ever been an earthquake? Yeah, in LA, of course. Yeah, absolutely.

Remember, I was in LA from 97 to 2000. Yeah, it's a funny feeling to feel, I mean, stuff like, hold on, is that an earthquake? I mean, we were on air, one day, undisputed. Then one time I was in the bed, and the bed just started shaking them. I mean, it's quick, like three seconds, four seconds. Yeah, it ain't, yeah.

I was like, damn, you know, first I thought, you know, It was an earthquake earlier that night. You know what I'm saying? Don't you? You know what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. But, I'm,

it's interesting. I wonder how the players that's never been, I don't, I wonder if the players, when did Seattle get the town? Okay. Because what did you call them?

They both arrived yesterday? Because I know, okay. Because sometimes they come in on a Monday. but I think maybe the NFL is forced them not and he came in on the Sunday. Because we got there on that Sunday. We always came in on the Sunday.

No, it's like a couple of seconds. I mean, I mean, but you know if you, if you're in it, because I was sleep and it woke me up out of dead sleep. Right. And I was like, damn, that's an earthquake. Mm-hmm. And it depended on the magnitude too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But this one was like a five, wasn't it? The one that hit, uh, yeah, it was like 4.2. You know it, Ocho. Yeah, that's not that bad. I mean, 414 is not that bad. Boy. Why, 440 isn't that bad, that's a little tremble. Now you started getting in the six and the sevens.

Now you're talking about that. Now you're talking about structural, I mean, there was some structural damage, but now you talk about, you're talking about casualties. You're talking about, you're talking about thousands of people when you start talking about six, four, and seven, oh. You talk about the one that, the one that hit San Francisco back in the 30s, I think. Yeah, I think that was way over six, huh? Six or seven.

Yeah, I think it was. Now, also, you start talking about you start getting 9 and 10 now. You're talking about the whole civilization. You're talking about stuff going into the ocean. Yeah. I don't know. What's the heaviest one of recorded?

I think there was one of maybe Chile or Mexico, but I think maybe nine magnitude. Well, see, that ain't, I mean, that ain't nothing. I mean, but when you get a condensed population, when you get somewhere where they're, Oh, okay, that's what led to the salon. Okay, that's what, okay. Yes, yes, I remember now.

Wow. But when they went in Mexico or Chile or something? Damn, 9. Yeah, because you got such a heavy concentration. There's a lot of people, Ocho, right there. Hopefully everything is under control. We get great weather. Because I hate games like this because I was at the Super Bowl, Ocho, in Miami.

Oh, yeah, it rained. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Coast Bears game. Coast Bears game, yeah. It is like, yeah, I just want the two best teams, not who handled the conditions the better, you know, so I just want, especially that game.

Now, I get it. Sometimes, Ocho, you know, you're in the Midwest or you're in a situation, and the team is earned home or home field, and it's, you know, weather is inclement. Right. But in the Super Bowl, it's supposed to be really nice. It's supposed to be really nice. Yeah, it will be.

It's going to be, listen. The game is at three o'clock, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's, whether it's going to be nice. Three o'clock West Coast time, six, probably like six something, East Coast. East Coast. East Coast time, yeah.

Yeah, it's going to be nice. Yeah, I'm hoping. Mike Brable was asked the dumbest question to docho. Let's take a listen to the question asked and how he responded. Is this a must win game? A must win. Yeah, every time we go out,

a must-win game. I mean, it's kind of the attitude that I've always taken in the National Football League. It's the Super Bowl. I mean, why do you ask you a question like that? As a reporter, do you just ask questions just to hear what the answer is going to be, even though the answer is somewhat common sense? Or you just want to hear the coach's answer? Is this a must-win game? It's the last game of the season. It's the Super Bowl. The whole point is to win.

Okay, maybe I'm tripping. Or maybe he just wanted to hear what Vrabel's answer would be to said question. I mean, come on now. I get it and sometimes you say, hey, will you marry me and all kind of foolishness? But come on, this seems to be a, I'm assuming this is a season reporter. You think so? And I get, ohcho, and I get, hold on, you know, Ocho, sometimes during the season, the team has lost like two or three games and they ask if this a must-win game.

But it's the final game of the season. season. Once you get to the playoffs, yes, every game is must win. You try to win all of them. But when you, there is no there's finality come post season. Yes. There is no week one.

So you lose week one. And you know, it's week two, a must win. Well, we like to win, but it's not a must win. We still got 15 more games to play. Right. You lose, there are no more games to play in the postseason if you lose. There is no more games to play in the you lose the Super Bowl.

So I don't, I don't. Maybe there was, I want to say it was a skit, so it couldn't have been a skit. I'm sure that was a serious question because someone wouldn't be in that room to be able to have access to even ask a question unless it was someone with a credential.

Ocho, Sean McVeigh just completed his night season as an NFL head coach. He has had seven head coaches hired off his staff. Matt LaFleur is now the head coach is a head coach. Shane Waldron is a head coach. Kevin O'Connell is a head coach. Liam Cohen is a head coach. Mike, Mike, the brother of Matt LaFleuror is a head coach.

Wade Phillips, who is a former head coaching job. Brandon Staley. Rahim Morris. Chris Schuller. So Chris Schuller probably going to be the next one, don't you? Yeah. You see how that works, huh? I got you.

Here's McVeigh talking about it today. Let's take a listen to what he had to say, Ocho. I can't hear him. You muted, coach. Too much time on my phone. We got a lot of great coaches in-house, but our job is to continuously build, and it's like putting together a team.

You know, your coaching staff, and we've had a lot of reps at it for a lot of the right reasons. But I am excited about diving in, and it never fails every time me and my wife go on vacation, somebody's usually getting a head job, and then I'm spending too much time on my phone. That's dope. Didn't Zach Taylor come from his staff too?

That has to be a great feeling. Yes. People that have coached with you and coached under you, that have helped you with success on the team that you've had, be able to branch off and go and go and be coaches at other places. I mean, that has to be one of the greatest feelings And obviously Sean McVey has done one hell of a job, a tremendous job down there in Los Angeles.

And, you know, you had the players and you have the personnel like he does, it somewhat makes your job a lot easy when you have a Matt Stafford. You got a Poo-Koo-Koo-you-got-A-Adams. You got a FISC. And some of those players defensively, so, I mean, it's awesome. Young, verse. Yeah, verse, yes. Landmine.

Yeah, they're really good. Yeah. I mean, you look at Kyle, you look at Robert Sala, you look at D'Amico Rans, you look at Mike McDaniel, you look at Sean McDaniel, you look at Sean McDaniel, you look at Sean. A lot of these guys, Mike, I think LaFleur was on that staff that ended up going with Sean. Right. But they are very close, and that's how the coaching community works. You know, if you get a job and, you know, you do your job and you, you know, you're loyal. When that guy gets hired, there's a great chance you'll always have a job. Always.

it's always going to have a job. He was our running back coach in Denver back in 95, and he went everywhere Mike went. And when Kyle got a job, he gets what, he's on Kyle's staff. Yep. So that's how it works,

but he's, he's, he's a, very, very, very impressive. And, uh, yeah, Sean should be,

should feel very proud, Ocho. Uh, obviously he's won. Um, he's won a Sue Bow. Yes. Uh, lost 133.

And I think, I think, I think in the process of losing 133, I think that's when he came to the realization, Ocho, he needed a better quarterback in order to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, you can get him over and hump. Yep. I think that's, I think that's when he realized, like, you know what?

I mean, we held Tom Brady at 13 points. I think they picked him, and we had every opportunity, but we just didn't have a quarterback that can make those throws. And you see, since then they haven't had a problem. Oh, Cho, USA Today ranked the greatest players in Super Bowl history. Tom Brady obviously was number one. Joe Montana was number two. Jared Rice was number three.

Terry Bradshaw, four, Charles Haley, five, Doug Williams, Emmett Smith. Hold up. Nah, I can't even read no more. They got Patrick Mahomes. They're the 15th greatest player in Super Bowl history. He's behind Eli Manning, Bart Star. I don't even want to read no more of this. Yeah.

I mean. Come on now. What we do? What, Ocho, what we do in here? I don't, I don't. So you mean to tell me that Patrick Mahomes of everybody that's played in the Super Bowl? Yes.

He's the 15th best player? Not, not, I'm not, also, the 15th best player. I have a question. Yes. This is an article, right? Yes. Do they have a name by, is there a name who wrote it? USA Day, who wrote this, who wrote this?

They rank the 50. If you want to say Montana, Brady, who? Who? Yeah, Nate. You want some bull, Josh. Who? Nate what? They got this man behind Eli.

What's his name? Nate what? Nate Davis. Huh? Nate Davis. Hold on. How is Elsie Greenwood? They got Elsie Greenwood is the 20th

greatest player in Super Bowl history. And he ain't in the hall. Great is in the hall. Montana's in the hall. Rice is in the hall. Bradshaw, Haley, no Doug Williams. Emmett, no Eli. T.D., Joe Namers.

Ventura he's up. Bart Star is in. Lynn Swan is in. Steve Young is in. Patrick Mahomes will be in. Jack Laronbert is in. Kurt Warner is in.

Frank O'Harris is in. Ray Lewis is in. So only three of the top 20 that's not in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. And Mahomes is not eligible yet. Man, just listen by.

Chad, I can't even read this to you no more. Uh-huh. The mere fact that this man got as the best player, he's got Patrick Mahomes. behind Eli. Have you seen

Nate Davis? No. Okay. I mean, when you see Nate Davis, you understand why his list looks the way it does. Yeah, Nate, if you're on Radio Road, come by and talk to us and you might have been on that Laporteur when you put

this list together. I would love people that have actually played the game, that understand the game, to do lists like this, especially when it comes to a list of of this magnitude as important as ranking the best players of playing the football like come on i mean okay we got brady got five MVP joe got three jerry has one

brashaw has one brashall might have two no he got one i think he got let's see franco was the MVP at one lynn swan was one john starworth might have been a one brashall might have two. Does Bradshaw have two or one? Because I know Lynn has one and Franco has one. I would love to hear the argument. Okay. I would love to hear the argument

on why and how he came about the order in which he has the players as one to 15. I would love to hear that part. That would be more interesting as opposed to the order he has everybody in. How did you get to this?

Ocho, in the day leading up to Thursday trade deadline, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Clippers have had advanced discussions on a deal that would send James Hardin to Cleveland in exchange for Darius Garland. The deal would represent an exchange of former All-Star Guards. Hardin is under contract for 39.2 and 42.3 with 13.3 guarantee. the second season is a player option. Because the contract is technically for one year and Harden has veto power on any trade, he has a 15% trade bonus that is currently valued at $2.36 million. James Hardin timeline.

He was traded to Brooklyn in 2021, traded to Philly in 2022, traded to the clifference in 2023, and now February 26, TB. What do you think about that? You think you want to leave? Is Darius Garland healthy now? He's been having, I mean, I think he got Nick began, but he's been having issues with his toe.

You know, he had an issue with his toe last year. Right. I mean, I guess, you know, hard's going to want a long term, you're going to want, you know, some more years. Yeah. Are they willing to do that? It doesn't seem like the clippers are

because the clippers, you know, they're willing to trade it. Oh, okay. Right. And they had started, I mean, they were looking good. I mean, they've been on a hot streak. They started off slow. But Kauai's playing, scoring more points that he's ever had James Hart is looking like an all-star.

Right. Even though neither player made the all-star, I'm surprised that neither player made it since the game is going to be in their building. I thought one of the other would make it. Would make it. But. No, that's weird. If both are playing well right now and they don't, they look better than they did when the season

first started, why would you want to trade them? I don't understand. Hey, James is a better facilitator than Garland. He's still, look, he's not what he, he's not Houston, James Harden, but he's not going to need to be. He's not going to need to be. They got Donovan Mitchell, they got those bigs. Jared Allen looked like Shaq last night against Portland.

Yeah, well, he had 40-something, any of you? Huh? He had 40-something last night, didn't you? He had 40 and 16. The Timberwolves are making a very aggressive push to sign Janus before the Ring of Fame, Honorary, a form of, a pro bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson.

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Tickets for our Super Bowl live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pending in the chat. The show will be Thursday, February the 5th, from the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So Bay Area residents, Patriots fans, Seahawk fans, NFL fans alike. And if you're just a local resident, come out and show support, for your unc and Ocho. Meet and greet tickets are completely sold out, but there are still general admission tickets left.

We want a special shout out, a special thank to Jarrell, Big Baby Miller, for joining us. He did win the fight. As you saw, guys, very entertaining, very amusing, made light of a situation, owned it, but he won the fight. So thank you, Jarrell, for coming on.

We greatly, greatly appreciate that, and wish you the best of luck moving forward. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We're off tomorrow like we usually on Tuesday, but we'll see you live from Radio Row on Wednesday morning. So from 10 to 1, right? No, from 1 to 4. Okay.

Yeah. East Coast time. Yeah. Yes. So Debo and Joe kicks it off from 11 and 1 Eastern time, and then nightcap takes over from 1 to 4. Hold on. Hold on.

So Debo going to be there? Yes, he'll be there. So he's going to be an arm reaching me? Yep. Yeah, you better have security, boy. I'll take you that. He'll be up for Thursday night show also. Yeah.

So that can lose it for nightcap. I'm unc. He's Ocho. We'll see you bright and early. No, Debo and Joe will see you bright and early. We'll see you in the afternoon. Thank you for joining us again. Peace.

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