Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: blame Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton disgruntled, NFL “What-If” standings

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 10 of the NFL season including Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets being a total mess this season after a 28-27 loss to Anthony Richardson and the Indianapolis Colts and Rodgers having a worse winning percentage with the Jets than Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Cam Newton saying he feels erased and forgotten by the Carolina Panthers organization, Unc and Ocho dive into NFL “What-If” standings and much more!03:00 - Ja’Marr Chase is frustrated Bengals can’t close out games07:00 - Jets vs. Colts15:32 - Lions vs. Jaguars18:00 - Lamar can’t explain his 1-3 record against the Steelers28:17 - Cam Newton believes he’s been erased by the Panthers33:42 - Unc and Ocho go over the “NFL What-If” Standings(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I don't call plays. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said that? Chase. Oh, s***. The situation where they ended up getting the first down. Right. But Joe missed Jamar for a touchdown. Guys pressed, the inside released, and the guys collided.

Yeah. And he went straight up the field. And when he threw it he was jumping up and down joe didn't see him i tweeted it i saw it they didn't replay it but i saw it i saw it yeah i sometimes you know your quarterback won't always know everything he won't know what to happen and the fact that the guys collided that that means the ball really won't come to you anyway. Because you wasn't to read. And, hold on, on that touchdown,

this slipped my mind. Which one? On the long touchdown to T. Higgins. They got him bracketed. If the safety is inside, why is the corner trying to jump the slug on? Stay on the upfield shoulder oh oh he's oh he's

trying to get that pick huh he's trying to get that pick are you trying to get that pick oh oh somebody said they replayed it i didn't see it uh but i but i but i i tweeted immediately and i know i'm like, bro, y'all got to play off. You can't be that close when you're like that because what's going to happen when he pushes up the field and one guy goes and hey, y'all going to collide and sure enough, but

that's just frustration. He knows they're running out of games and there are no two win games on the schedule, which means what I mean when people say two-win game, a game in which you win and you get two victories for it. There aren't any of those on the schedule. So he knows this was a game.

This could have started something really, really, really, really good. Now, look, and the thing is, Ocho, you know, you don't want to go into the bye with a loss. Damn, that hurt, Ocho. That ruined your whole bye. I don't care what anybody say. They lying if they say it. It does.

It's going to sting. It's going to sting. And then you know what it does, too, also, huh? It put that much pressure on you. It put that much more pressure on you on the game coming up. Who we got? The Steelers, right? Yeah, but y'all got a five-week this week.

And T. Higgins. T. Higgins was frustrated with the Bengals, saying we can't finish the effing game. Yeah, them boys hot, bro. Them boys hot. But what we need to do, it ain't even about finishing the game. We need to start that, by the way. But it's, hey, we didn't start where we had an opportunity to finish it and we missed two field goals i would show you this back-to-back

field goals now and the same way you hooked it left damn bro you didn't make no adjustment hey listen the most the most difficult one of the most difficult positions on the field is kicker it is kicker you know one slight adjustment one slight mistake a swing of the most difficult positions on the field is kicker. It is kicker. One slight adjustment, one slight mistake, a swing of the leg, you not keeping your head down at the ball, allowing your foot to sway a little further left than it should, it changes the trajectory of the ball. So as a kicker myself, I understand the difficulties that comes when it comes to kicking the ball.

So McPhpherson all you got to do you go back to your basics same thing with justin tucker you go back to your basics go back to your basic fundamentals when when it comes to kicking the ball and start all the way over start all the way over and be yourself kick himself in the boy chase by the hit them over the head oh yeah big time no no no no no no no no uh no, no, no, no, no. Uh-oh. And the thing is, he ain't even got no mask. Y'all know it's him. So when you hear something pitch in the back of the head, just tell the cops, Jamar Chase just robbed us.

Right. Jets continue to be terrible. The Colts go on the road, and they win. Aaron Rodgers' worst winning percentage, then Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold in a Jets uniform. Winning percentage and starting quarterbacks for the Jets, Zach Wilson, 364, Sam Darnold, 342, Aaron Rodgers, 273. The Jets fired Robert Sala when the team was 2-3, one game.

One game out of first place in the AFC East. The team three losses at the time 49ers 5-5. Broncos 6-5. Vikings 8-2. Denver, Minnesota were one score losses with the Jets offense failing to score on their final possession. Since they fired Robert Sala, the New York Jets are 1-5.

So who they going to point the blame at now? I'm just curious. The media. Who they going to point the blame at now I'm just curious the media when Aaron Rodgers talks who is he going to blame the media he can't blame Mike Williams but the media

it's the stench in the building because they've been losing so long and these guys don't understand what it takes to win he ain't gonna put it on himself now oh you thought he was gonna say him i i would hope so i would think at some point understanding that you are the leader of that team at some point you take accountability you take accountability for the fact that maybe i'm not playing well maybe i'm not playing as as good as i should be to give us a chance to win.

In those moments when it counts most, am I making the throws? Am I making the plays to give my team the best chance to win? You know what? Right now, I'm not playing well. Not once. Not once have we heard that at all. M-E-S-S. Mess, mess, mess. That's what they need to be shouting.

I would go to there with five Marshall. It's on one side. I would be on the other side. M-E-S-S, mess, mess, mess. I'm just, I didn't run out of people. Now, look, you blame Robert Sala you blame what's the coordinator

Hackett Nathaniel Hackett you blame Mike Williams I want to know who next play calling yeah I'm just waiting on I'm just waiting on the roll call

who next chat who next who get blamed hey again the funny thing about it is this has been an ongoing issue whether Aaron Rodgers was there or not regards to what quarterback was at the helm regards to what quarterback was there in that situation the Jets have always had this problem for a very long time for a very long time they haven't had a winning season but I thought hold on maybe I put he found

a fountain what about that cayenne pepper in water I thought he found a fountain of youth. What about that cayenne pepper in water? I thought that was a fountain of youth. What about when he, you know, what do you say? You got to embrace the darkness? I thought we were embracing darkness. I thought we were on that Hossawaka or that

Wasatoosa or whatever it is. You know that stuff that get the hallucinogenic properties in it. It cause you to go out of your mind. Maybe you need to take another trip. I mean, hey, they got a game next week, but why don't you go on vacation? I mean, it ain't required. You know games, you know, sometimes they're

mandatory, sometimes they're voluntary. So maybe you take a, you know, take a voluntary trip, just go away. Right. I mean, three and eight. What do you think the Jets record would be without it? If I'm three and eight winning, you don't think I'd go three and eight without it and save 50 million? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But you're paying for what you think you're going to get. You're paying for what you think you're going to get from the past and what he's done in the past based on his resume. That's what you're paying for what you think you're gonna get you're paying for what you think you're gonna get from the past and what he's done in the past based on his resume that's what you're paying for but see that's what i love about sports because it's the one thing that you're required you update your resume every single week got to you got to oh oh you got this great resume oh it's unbelievable it's impeccable yeah janet jackson said it best you say what have you done for me lately though but you know what you know it's funny you know they always stand a certain position grace when

it comes to what they've done in the past well that's what they think they always extend a certain a certain quarter a certain position they extend them grace based on what they've done in the past i don't i believe ocho i am this is how i believe i believe yes sir that there's never been a player or a person that's been above reproach i don't give you what you deserve i give you what you earn he's earned the criticism in which we're leveling against him everybody knows if you know me if you follow sh Sharp, for my time on Undisputed, I've been Aaron Rodgers' biggest supporter. Do I think he's arrogant? Yes. Do I think he's flippant? Yes.

Do I think he's condescending? Yes. Do I think he's dismissive? Yes. Do I think he blames others for his mistakes? Absolutely. But I say he's the greatest thrower of the football that I've ever seen with my own two eyes. Yeah. And I believe I can fairly assess. Do I like how he's treated someone to blame others? No.

But that doesn't stop me from doing my job and saying he's a damn good when he plays well. I have no problem saying Aaron Rodgers has played well for seven and a half years. But I know, but I've talked to people. I know people and we just leave it at that. But hey, right. And you're right. A lot of time when someone is so great,

you're willing to overlook their flaws. That's a good one right there. And that's with anything. It's just not with sports. Somebody that's really good at something, you allow them to do a lot of things that you wouldn't allow somebody else to do. Right.

But what I think, the thing that I love most about a person, about people that have power is that they don't abuse it. John knew John could mispractice or he could not be at many camps or he could do something.

Never. Never. Never. Right. But see, when you blow it off, see, there's a difference between being able to influence people and being able to lead people. Now, don't y'all let that go over y'all head.

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645. First downs 38. Detroit scored touchdowns on each of its first seven offensive possessions. The Lions are only the third team in the past 45 years to do it. The two are the Patriots, the 2009 Patriots

and the 2007 Patriots. A team you might remember won every game they played that season until the Super Bowl. So Jerry Goff was 24 of 29.

412 yards. Four touchdowns. Zero picks. They ran the ball 43 times, 196 yards. And they had 449 total passing yards. They took golf out. Herndon Hooker came in. He was three or four.

Amon Roth, St. Brown, 11 catches, 161, two tubs. Jamison Williams, four for 124. Touchdown. Jameer Gills, one catch, 54 yards. Khalif Raymond, two catches, 30 yards. So forth and so on. And a partridge in a pear tree. Hey, how you stop that, man?

How you stop that when you're getting contributions from everywhere, from your running game, from your passing game, you got two receivers going over 100, you can't find a way to stop Amon Raw, you can't find a way to stop Jamison Williams, then you got to deal with the running game, you got to deal with Montgomery crazy, you got to deal with Sunk, the Hedgehog, and Jameer Gibbs.

There's nothing you can do. And then defensively. They paint defensively. You got Brian Branch, crazy, and the rest of that company out there. They playing extremely well. I mean, what do you do? What do you do? You hang up 52.

This is an NFL game. This is an NFL game against another NFL team. An NFL team that's supposed to be the best of the best. I know it's the Jags. I know it's the Jags. But still, these are the one percenters. These are the one percenters in the world where we're displaying our best players that we had to choose from in a draft

and free agency or however they were acquired. They got 52 points hung up on them. Lamar says he can't explain his one-and-three record versus the Steelers. Heading into Sunday's road showdown against the Steelers, Lamar was asked why he struggles against the Pittsburgh

more than any other team. I don't know what it is, man. Last year we were supposed to, huh? Defense. Last year, but he's a two-time MVP. Yeah, but you're going against the Steelers' defense. I'm not calling them the Steel Curtain, but they play defense extremely well. Not only that, this is a divisional opponent.

Every time you play a divisional opponent, they know all your tendencies. They know what's coming. So why he have such success against Cincinnati? Don't do that. The Bengals. You ain't had to do that. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. He's 1-3 against the Steelers.

He's 17-5 against everybody else. Yeah, you ain't had to do that, though. You ain't had to bring up the Bengals. You ain't had to take no shot. I ain't taking no shot. You took a shot. The reporter asked him, why does he struggle against that team more so than any other team in the league?

I told you. I told you i told you the defense the defense the difference is and you just said it just now the the steelers defense is very very good they're very very good now the bengal defense you know i i don't mean no disrespect we are not what we should be to be able to compete with the ravens offensively and lamar jackson running game that that's that's the answer now what team has the personnel to deal with Lamar Jackson and King Henry the dealers yeah I think Highsmith is out but you got TJ Watt you know you have a solid you have a solid um mid-level game Joey Porter Jr. playing good football man man you what more can you ask for? And then you got Mike Tomlin, the genius over there.

He said, I don't know what it is, man. Last year we were supposed to beat them, but things just didn't go our way. The football gods weren't on our side, but it's a whole other year. It's a new year, and I'm looking forward to this game. Lamar's 1-3 against the Steelers. He's 17-5 against the other AFC North teams. Pittsburgh is the only team against which he's thrown more interceptions, seven, than he has touchdown passes, four.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, things might change. I think, obviously, out of all the games that are slated for Sunday, this might be the most interesting in the best game of the year. Outside of the Bills in Kansas City. Outside of the Bills in Kansas City, this might in the best game of the outside of the bills in kansas city outside of the building kansas city this might be the best game well look i think people are looking forward to this um this game is a rivalry game yeah um this is an opportunity to like for

the division i think the division lead to be on the line with this one um and so the ravens would have the advantage because they beat the Steelers head-to-head. Obviously, the Bills, we've seen these teams play so many times in the playoffs. I think Kansas City is 3-0 against them in the playoffs, but I think they've only won one regular season game against the Bills. So that's the only thing that matters. The Bills in the regular season are 3-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah, but 0-3 in the postseason. That's the only thing that Patrick. The Bills in the regular season are 3-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah, but 0-3 in the postseason.

That's the only thing that Patrick Mahomes cares about. If you look at Brady, there are a lot of guys that have winning records against Brady. Well, not a lot of guys because Brady didn't lose. No time. Regular season, postseason, preseason. That joker, man. I don't think we're going to ever see anything like that.

Not the amount of games that he played and relative to wins and losses ocho i don't think we're gonna see that again i don't i don't i honestly don't i mean you got to think about it the man had what they won the division damn near every year except the year he got hurt so we can't hold that against him but when he, they won the division, and they're going to win normally about 11 games. Even in a bad year, good year they're going to win 14. A bad year they're going to win 11. Yeah.

And so he did that for damn near 20 years. Or my bad, for 23 years. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we're going to see – we're not going to see that again. It's like, you know, guys in baseball baseball when they won five guys, pitchers won. I don't know if we're going to see another 300-game winner in baseball. I know we ain't seeing no 400. That's, you know, what Walter Johnson did and Sandy Koufax.

You're not seeing that. Guys winning 353 games, you're not going to see that anymore. Guys winning 200. I think Brady was damn near won 300 games. Ain't no NFL player winning 300 games, Ocho. It ain't. It ain't going to see that anymore. Guys winning 200. I think Brady was damn near won 300 games. Ain't no NFL player winning 300 games, Ocho. It ain't going to happen. I'm glad I got an opportunity to see it. I'm glad I'm old enough to see some of the greats.

I remember when Montana came into the league and got an opportunity to play when he was in the league and play with Elway and Marino and Steve Young and a lot of these quarterbacks, but to see payton and and and hey i was in the league when when he was my pro bowl quarterback uh in 2001 payton manning uh steve mcnair but it was it's always great to like you have a greater appreciation when you see

the uh what the game was and where it is and how it progressed and to see the the young guns come in so you know it's always great. I'm glad you say that. I'm glad you just said that. And I talk about this all the time. I have a, a, a group chat with most of the Bengals players that play with me in that 2005 season, TJ, you know, Sean, big Willie, Corey, Dylan, Peter Ward. And we talk about where the game is a day and how the game was when we played and most of them taking a consideration that the game was today and how the game was when we played and most of them taking a consideration

that the game was a little bit more difficult during our era and the era before us as opposed to how it is now and today's era football is they use the word for the mental lack of better terms a little watered down yeah i don't know it's not nearly as physical oh joe we know that and we understand and the thing is we understand why oh we understand the trauma the head trauma the repeated trauma and they're trying to make the game as safe as they possibly can and i think we all we all want that i know fans like this is put flags on them but guys the league is not trying to get sued for billions and billions of dollars you keep getting sued your company goes bankrupt this is this is what we need to say we this is what we need to say we're trying to make the game safer but on the

back hand we're just trying to make sure we can protect that so we don't get sued yeah but everybody yes but you know that you you every everybody knows that but in the pro look it's an inherently dangerous game yeah oh yeah it's an inherently dangerous game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's an inherently dangerous game. We're trying to make the game as safe as possible. But in the process of making it safer, the physicality, a lot of the physicality has been legislated out of the game. Yeah. I got no problem.

I don't have a problem with it. I'm glad it wasn't there when I was there because the kickoff like that, how am I going to show you what I forgot if I don't come down there and bust somebody? Yeah. I mean, Ocho, just standing still and let the guy catch the ball, and then I take off? No, I need to get ahead of steam and run down there

and try to peel somebody's cap. I'm trying to split your dome. Yeah, split his dome up. You got me hyped. You know, I used to be, I was the wedge buster. My real year. You ain't no wedge buster. You too little. You ain't got no to be, I was the wedge buster. My rookie year. You ain't no wedge buster. You too little.

You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket to bust no wedge. Unc, ask Marvin. If you see Marvin, I was the wedge buster, Unc. Nah, because back then, you do realize they could have a three and a four-man wedge. Yeah, and they used to link arms. Yes. Yeah. You wasn't a wedge buster.

We played the Ravens, right? My rookie year. We played the Ravens, right? I was year. We played the Ravens, right? I was the wedge buster. I went down and Adelius Thomas. Remember Adelius Thomas? Yeah, I know AD. Yeah.

Man, they had Adelius Thomas in the wedge. Man, I ran right through him. I don't know about that. Hey, I probably cracked his face mask. We're going to have to find some footage of you busting being in the wedge. Listen, I can get the footage for you at NFL Films. Well, you have to get that footage because that wedge, I wanted no parts of the wedge.

Let me play my three. Let me get on down there and protect the numbers. Ain't nothing coming up the numbers. I'm built different, huh? I was a savage on the field. You wasn't built like me, man. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket. It ain't about the bricks. I got this right here, Unc. I got this right here.

Everybody got this. Ocho, why you think they took the wedge out? Because of me? Because it didn't matter how much hard. If you think about it, you one man, let's just say you 250 and they got a thousand pounds. What you going to do with that? But see, Unc, you got to be, listen, Unc, physics, baby. Physics.

You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man.

You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You got to be a man. You one man, let's just say you 250 and they got a thousand pounds. Right. What you going to do with that? But see, you got to be, listen, physics, baby. Physics. If it's four men, right? Yeah. Out of the four that's right there, there's always a weak link. You always pick on the weak link.

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Cam Newton believes he's been erased and forgotten by the Panthers. I'm like, damn, I gave this city everything. He says he's not even in any pictures of him inside the stadium. Damn, they ain't got no pictures of him at all? That's what he said. I don't know. I haven't been to the stadium since I played in it. I think I've been to the Panthers stadium maybe once.

But it's true. For everything that he has done for that team, obviously getting them to a Super Bowl, him being an MVP at one at one point as well. I'm not sure we is statistically when it comes to the quarterbacks that have played for the Panthers organization. But for what he has done in the legend that he is, I mean, I would think you would have some type of memorabilia, pictures, hell, a statue. I think he also belongs in the Hall of Fame. I would think Cam is the Hall of Fame quarterback as well. I'm not sure if there was any type of riff with him and the owner, whoever. Obviously, Dave Tepper. If Dave Tepper is the owner, I'm not sure if there was any bad blood when Cam might have left. But to me, me personally, watching Cam and what he's done throughout his career, Chad, I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I think he should be

remembered as the legend that he is. And what he had done for that organization. Chad, what are your thoughts? Because Unc left, so it's just me and you guys right now. What do you think? Should Cam, what, ring of honor, name on the stadium maybe saying a statue outside that might be a little too much uh because he wasn't able to win you know win them a championship but what cam has done his resume speaks for itself and um how he galvanized that that that that stadium uh the kids the fans uh that community hell next team for that matter what y'all think cam is one of the two best players one of the three best players four best players so if you like smitty you like julius peppers you like luke keighley cam newton sam mills those are your five best players i don't care to rank

them you can rank them wherever you want to right but those are your five best players uh and you talk about a franchise that's 30 years of age so therefore i believe your five best players they should always have a montage on somewhere when you walk into the stadium when you walk into the facility those five players should be always present yeah yeah and most day most definitely your quarterback most definitely most definitely your quarterback most definitely most definitely your quarterback so um so like i said you forgot that's six players we got mccaffrey well i just don't think he played long yeah he's one of the best players you You put it. Oh, you forgot Thomas Davis.

Julius Peppers is in the Hall of Fame. Luke Keekly is going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Dean Smith is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Cam and Sam Mills. I think Sam Mills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Okay.

So I believe those are your five best players. Right. In Carolinaolina football in the in the very short history of the carolina panthers now you can rank them you can say cam is this one or julius peppers or keekly or smitty whatever the case may be because all those guys played it you know uh keekly retired early because he the trauma he's like now i'm done with this i want i want to be you know hey i want to be a normal functioning human as I start to get into my mid-30s, 40s, so forth and so on.

We know what Pep is. We know what Pep is. We know what Smitty was. But Cam, Cam kind of put him on the map, man. Yeah, yeah. Cam was him. Cam was him. Smitty, look was Smitty did when he and Jake DeLon yeah it was kind of Smitty with that do a smitty with that dude yes

maybe with nice name man remember him and him in Muslim Muhammad yeah yeah they would not know they did they did a number, man. Hey. Like I said, I don't know the history. I don't know what temper is. I don't know why. Hey, look, I remember when Josh McDaniels, when he went back to Denver,

he took everything down. He took everybody, all the fans. My pictures, L. Wade, TD, he took all of it now. In the facility. Yeah. What the hell?

We starting over. It's a new day. Bruh, stop. Get your ass up out of here. Talk about a new day. We legends. Yeah. What the hell are you talking about?

Just because you take the pictures down, they're not going to forget us. Nah, never that. I don't know what you thought. Yeah. Hey, bro, please. Taking a lip. Yeah. Fuck off.

I said, bro, I don't know what you thought. I said, bro, do you understand what John Elway means in that building? Do you understand what TD, myself, got, hey, bro? Mm-hmm. Hold on, not just in the building, outside the building. Yes! And a lot of people that worked with us

in those Super Bowl eras, they were still there. Yeah. They're like, what are you hoping to accomplish that'll be like somebody coming in and they taking down gronk's picture they taking down brady's picture or you go to the stealer and ain't no brand shot in the building ain't no mean yo ain't no franco ain't no ham lambert male what yeah swans to come on bro tripping man yeah something interesting went viral today

the nfl what if standing if all of the one position games were flipped uh cincinnati bingos would be number one they'd be eight and two the broncos also would be eight and two the jacksonville would be seven and three buffalo would be six and four the chargers would be seven and two the jacksonville would be seven and three buffalo would be six and four the chargers would be seven and two baltimore would be six and four steelers five and four so forth and so on dang oh joe yes sir why y'all can't win no one possession games man yeah man that's what it comes down to uh that's what that's all it comes down to sometimes it comes down to one possession and the funny thing about it i think for those that i don't want to call those that are in the chat casual fans i know the eagles did not lose to the cleveland browns i'm talking about the baltimore ravens

king henry guys will y'all listen y'all y'all too i think y'all tune into some of these shows just so y'all can say oh you made a mistake oh that ain't what he said listen yeah listen yeah listen baltimore ravens lost to the cleveland browns ocho and i talked about them not giving king henry enough carries he only had 11 yeah no he had 16 but he he was averaging six yards a carry of what he averaged he averaged like he'd average like – no, he averaged four and a half yards a kick. Right. But I'm saying, come on, guys. Damn, listen.

Yeah. Listen. What school y'all went to? Hey, but the funny thing about it, you got to think, how many plays you run in the game? What, 67? Average is about somewhere between 60 and 65. Give or take, you know, you get some penalties.

They call a play Ocho. It doesn, you know, you get some penalties. They call a play Ocho. It doesn't really count because you got a penalty. But somewhere 60 to 65. If you're really cooking, you might get as many as 70 to 75. Let's say 70 to 75 if you're not cooking as much, 60 to 65. And the funny thing about it, out of all those plays, one to three of those plays make the difference in the game.

Yes. One to three of those plays make a difference in the game. Yes. One to three of those plays make a difference in the game. That's how important it is. That's how it comes down to that one possession making a difference, and you actually have a winning record, and you're not. Eagles had 70 plays. Washington had 63. You see? 60 to 65, you cook a little bit, Ocho, you get many 70, 75.

Making the most of your opportunities a little bit, Ocho, you get many 70, 75. Making the most of your opportunities. Go ahead, Ocho. What were you going to say? No, I was going to say it all comes down to making the most of your opportunities, making the most of those plays that you do have. Yes. And, Ocho, it's a situation where when that play happens, because all plays aren't created equal.

All penalties aren't created equal. You create a penalty and you got the ball and you back your team up. You create a penalty and you give a team a first down when you're trying to get the ball back. That's different than you committing a penalty in the first quarter or the second quarter. So all plays are like, well, no, no, no, all plays aren't created equal. Timing is everything.

Area of the field, you get a penalty, now you put them in field goal range. That's the difference. And when you're not going to get an opportunity to get the ball back to do something about it. So all plays, you're absolutely right. It comes down to a handful of plays every game. And the team that executes the best in those situations, and that's why, look, as bad as Patrick Mahomes,

and Patrick Mahomes doesn't look like Patrick Mahomes. And what we mean by that, Ocho, we know at this point in time, he's normally in the top three as far as touchdown passes. He's not there now. I think he has 12 touchdowns, eight interceptions. That's not Patrick Mahomes. But in the one possession game, when he needs to be Patrick Mahomes that we all know and love, he's that guy.

Every time. Let me say one thing real quick. If we have any Eagles fans, I want you to understand how special Young Bull is, man. Keon Mitchell, real quick. I just want to understand how special young bull is, man. Keon Mitchell, real quick. I just want to go from week one to week 11. Who he's covered in the number of yards and catches each player's had. Week one, against the Packers, Keon Mitchell, whoever the number one receiver is, one reception, six yards. Drake London, one reception, five yards. Week three, Chris Olave, two reception, 23 reception 23 yards Mike Evans two receptions

19 yards week six Amari Cooper one reception 10 yards week seven Malik Neighbors one reception nine yards my own Bengals own legendary Jamar Chase two catches for 19 yards against the Jaguars whoever the number one is had one catch for 11 yards. Week 10 against CeeDee Lamb, two catches for 14 yards. Week 11, Terry McLaurin, zero receptions for zero yards. Keon Mitchell, boy, if you see this, boy, you're the real deal, boy. And you're lucky I'm not playing no more.

But I salute you for what you're doing. This is the legendary run for a rookie, boy. But yeah, he's playing really good for a guy. What what is he a rookie second year player rookie boy i'm bull a rookie man man hey hey when i see stuff like that that make me want to get out there that make me want to get out i'm i'm man what you trying to do no it makes me want to do get better at my job so i can have something to do right here. Right here.

I feel you, but when you see somebody putting up them kind of numbers against some of the best in today's game, I want to know what you're going to do against me. Uh-uh. No, you had your turn. Let the billboards have it. It's raining out there. It's cold out there.

It's hitting out there. You ain't falling. When the last time you fell on the ground? Yesterday. Yesterday. But see, listen, this is how I feel feel when i see stuff like this right and i have an appreciation for superior db play this is superior db play we witnessing from young bull right so i like i'm thinking about myself with my prime so i want to see how you know he would match up against me. So I just, I don't know.

It's a hypothetical. It's just something that I always do. I insert myself in today's game, in today's era, just wondering how it would be if I was playing in this past happy era. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.

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