Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bronny's next move, Angel Reese heads to WNBA

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas discuss the possibility of Bronny James transferring from USC and Angel Reese's decision to leave LSU to enter the WNBA Draft. 1:40 LeBron on supporting Bronny’s future if he transfers from USC7:30 Ja Morant fires agent11:20 Josh Hart jokes Jimmy Butler does “side quests” until the playoffs start16:30 Lavar Ball blames Puma for his sons injuries24:40 Angel Reese announces that she’ll declare for WNBA draft41:20 Chauncey Billups and Vince Carter elected to Hall of Fame46:50 Q and Ayyyyy #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's take a listen to what LeBron had to say. Well, I don't know where it came from, but at the end of the day, Bronny's his own man. He has some tough decisions to make, and when he's ready to make the decisions, he'll let us all know, but as his family, we'll support whatever he does. Bronny is eligible to enter his name

into the NBA draft, but mock drafts suggest that he's likely to go undrafted in 2024. He had an underwhelming freshman season at USC, understanding that what transpired this summer, it's just a miracle that he was even on the court. Played 25 games, averaged a little less than five points, a little less than three rebounds to assist the game. The Trojans failed to qualify for the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2019. But the sheer fact he overcame,

the sheer fact that he overcame that health scare was amazing in and of itself. And so I think it would be wise for him to go back and maybe he gets a clean bill of health and he's able to play 30 minutes, 35 minutes, because he was on a minutes restriction, show some flashes of athleticism, but like LeBron

said, and I'm sure LeBron, he and his mom and Savannah is going to help, but LeBron, like he said, he got some tough decisions he got to make and you just support him in whatever he decides to do. Yeah, you know, when they said he was training,

I mean, transferring, I'm like, that doesn't sound like Bronny. Like, you know, when they said he was training, I mean, transferring, I'm like, that doesn't sound like Bronny. Like, you know, Bronny is not a quitter. He's going to stick it out. He's a loyal kid, right? Yeah, I know his coach left, but it's not like he played him any goddamn way. Right. You know, I hear Muscleman might be the coach

coming in. Eric Muscleman. That'd be great for Bronny. I played under Muscleman. Muscleman gave me my shot in Golden State. He's one of those fiery, fiery small guard type of players.

If you're playing the right way, he loves to play small ball. He'll play four or five guards if he had to. He's going to put up a lot of threes, and that's going to play to Bronny's strengths, where they're just going up and down. Up and down. I think they will stick it out.

I don't see Bronny just getting up and leave. He loves it in L.A. His home is here. His family here. His friends here. His brand is here. I don't see Bronny just getting up and leave. He loves it in LA. His home is here. His family is here. His friends are here. His brand is here. I don't see him going to... He said MSU? Where is that at? SMU. That's in Dallas.

Nah. They got money. They got money. Unfortunately, that's Bronny James. Bronny James got money. That's one person Unfortunately, that's Bronny James. Bronny James got money. That's one person you're not going to sleep with a man. He got that already. John Morant fires his longtime agent. Woe is treated.

John Morant has fired his longtime agent, Jim Tanner, have parted ways. Sources tell ESPN Tanner had represented Morant since coming out of Murray State as the number two overall draft pick in 2019. What do you think is next for Joth? Right now, I'm just happy for him.

What does this move tell you, Gil? What does this move tell you? I think he's cleaning house. I think he's cleaning house. He's surrounding himself with, I can't say nothing about his agent, smarter people, people who can take him to that next step. You know, the fact that he's stayed out of the limelight,

you know, he's getting healthy, right? You know, for the most part, his troubles was his cell phone, right? And, you know, the fact that he's laid low, I think everybody just can't wait the next year with him. And I think he's just going to, this summer is going to be a real rebranding for him.

And, you know, just like, you know, everybody in Memphis, you just can't wait for him to come back just to see the magnitude of who he is. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to see the magnitude of who he is. Yeah, I'm excited to see how he bounces back from that injury,

what he had. I mean, he's a phenomenal player. I got an opportunity to see him a couple of times in person, and the way he can elevate, the way he can contort his body, the way he plays, the effort. And he's such a small guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's thin, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but you know what? He has a tremendous foundation. If you look at him from waist down, he ain't feeling like he is from waist up. So he has a tremendous foundation. He has a tremendous foundation. And he has to have, because he spends so much time up in the air.

Yeah, you know, that's going to be something that he's going to have to learn. If I'm him, he should study like the Shays right now, study the Jordan, the Kobe, like them later on years when they started posting up, they started staying lower to the ground. Yeah, you don't have to jump out of the gym on every play. Jump out of the gym only on fast breaking wide open lanes, right? For the most part, you know, work on your floaters, your up and unders, right? Your post, your fades, right? For that longevity because, you know, every time you jump, you're not jumping, like you're

not Wimby jumping where he's just using arms. You're using your jumping ability. yeah yeah yeah winby barely barely has to jump in order to block your shot he definitely he definitely could be an ed where he don't even need the ladder to cut down the net he just start cut yeah yeah no i mean that's that's that's that's great for him you know um that's his advantage where you know he's gonna stay from getting those ankle sprains that, you know, normally a lot of big guys get. So, you know, with Ja, I just, you know, this is one of those years where he just studies the game and study longevity type of game. Right. And give us the excitement.

Give us the excitement plays when you know you have that runway space. Right. Yeah, I'm just, hopefully he had an opportunity to do a lot of self-reflecting, look at some of the things that he did great, some of the things that didn't go quite so well, learn from those and says, okay, come out as a better person, start the 2024 season. So I'm excited to see what holds, what the season holds for Ja Morant. So he's parting ways with his longtime agent, Jim Tanner.

I'm sure that didn't come easy because when you've been somewhere and you build up a relationship with your agent. I've had my agent since 1996. And so wish him, Ja, the best of luck. Speed of recovery. Let's get 22. 24. And so wish him, John,

the best of luck, speedy recovery. Let's get 22, 24. Let's get it. Josh Hart jokes that Jimmy Hart, Jimmy Hart, Jimmy Butler does side quests until the NBA playoffs.

Hart said, Jimmy kind of does side quests during the, during the year until, until about April. Then he starts locking in. I'm sure people are going to see him, see that maniac competitive side now that he's done

with the side quest. He's on the main quest. Gil, what do you... Because Jimmy is very unique. I don't know if we've ever seen a guy that go to that... I mean, you look at what he does in the regular season. I mean, we see guys. Jordan increased

his playoff average. He scores 34 career. His playoff scoring average is 33. Kevin Durant averaged 27, 27-2, 27-3. He goes to 28, 29. LeBron averaged 27-2, 27-1. He goes to 28

and a half. So we've seen guys incrementally. We ain't seen a guy like Jimmy Buck. Yeah, but this can go either way, right? A guy at his magnitude averaging

20 during the regular season, right? Are we looking at this wrong? Are we looking at a guy who's... Who should be doing more in the regular season to match what he does in the postseason? Yeah, because we're looking at this big gap of a performance. Right? We're saying this guy is finals MVP style.

Right? Eastern Conference final. We're giving him this Jimmy Butler, this juggernaut playoff Jimmy but it's 17 games when the 82 games

he's just passing through like everyone the Tatum's right the Tatum is averaging 27 and then in the playoffs averaging 29 I'm pretty sure if jason tatum averaged 20 in regular season and then average 29 we'll be looking at oh this is

the best performance that but these guys are maximizing their talent and you know jimmy is averaging 2021 playing as a second third option and then in the playoffs he turns it on, that seems like... It kind of... It seems backwards to what we are telling, you know, our fans and telling the youth. Yeah, because, okay, you give us that kind of performance in the postseason, what's going on in the regular season?

Because the basket didn't change. The teams are just as difficult that you're going to... Because those teams that you played in the postseason, what's going on in the regular season? Because the basket didn't change. The teams are just as difficult that you're going to, because those teams that you played in the playoffs, you played against them in the regular season. So what's so different about the postseason than the regular season? Like I said, I understand incremental growth in points and scoring or rebounding or whatever the case may be. But not that vast of a difference.

Yeah, I mean, what is he in scoring per game? He's ranked 35. Is he averaging 20 points this year? He's averaging 21. Tyler Hero, I mean, you got Terry averaging 20, Bam averaging 19, right? So he's ranked 35, right? So it's like you're scoring with Terry Rozier, Scary Terry. That's where you're seeing your game is, and then you turn into a playoff player, if he was playing like an all-star,

an all-NBA player, and he was averaging 26 in the playoffs, would we be excited about it? If he was averaging 28 and 26, the only reason we're excited about this is because it's 20 to 26. So we're like, ooh. But if he was averaging to 26 in regular season, averaging.9 more points, we were like, eh.

Right. And then we see him do go get 57. We see him get 50. We see him get the 40s. And you're like. But you know what I think it is that kind of makes him special. Right? that kind of makes him special, right? As much as I can say I don't like the style it is, he is excellent when he needs to be.

So it's hard for me to say I don't like the way Jimmy approaches the game because when he needs to be great, he doesn't fail, right? In the playoffs, what he does is the last five minutes, he takes over. Regular season, he doesn't take over in the last five minutes. He defers. Right, he defers in the last five. In the playoffs, it is Jimmy Buckets in the playoffs. The last five minutes.

He is great in the last five minutes. So, you know, I'm pretty sure if Miami and Spoh and Pat Riley didn't like the way he played, he would have changed his game. So the fact that they haven't done anything about it, it makes sense to them. And if it makes sense to them, it makes sense to me. LeVar Ball blames the NBA training staff and the Pumas raggedy shoes for his son's injury. LeVar Ball said, I quote,

the reason they hurt is because they got away from me. And they start doing these Rudy 2 workouts because if you keep running them heels, you're going to keep that power and strength. But you start dealing with those rubber bands

and doing lightweight stuff, of course you're going to start breaking down. A lot of things have to do with them raggedy shoes that Melvin made. Melvin's shoes are not made the right way for him.

That's why he keeps tweaking his ankles every single time. I understand what he's saying when he's saying you know, he's coming from a football background just like yourself. Yes. You guys understand that something that

these new doctors don't have the understanding. They think more rest creates longevity. Not realizing your muscles staying strong, right? Yes. That's why I said if you're lifting every day and then you don't lift for a week and then go out there and try to perform, your muscles is not ready for what your body wants to do. And you get these little leaks. So I understand what LeVar, because the study is showing

that the more you're resting the guys, the more they're getting hurt. Now when it comes to shoes, shoe companies and players really have to understand their feet in the shoe. Sometimes the shoe heel sole

is too big for a guard. You're talking about a guard like a Kyrie, a Steph, a LaMelo. The back part of that shoe needs to be more of a curl versus a block. Right.

We need our ankles to give. So when we come down, we're coming down on our ankles. So it needs to roll. Sometimes the bottom of the shoe is too thick, which when your ankle rolls, it snaps quick. Instead of rolling, it snaps.

And I think the best ankle-supported shoes is the Jordans. The protection is in the heel part. It's not the top. The top is that's flamsy. That has nothing to do with nothing. Like when people are like, oh, you don't have the mids and the lows. You don't got no ankle support. The ankle support is in the heel.

Right. The heel structure, keeping your foot in place is the key to it. So I don't know anything about the Pumas, but it kind of does look bad structurally that he keeps getting hurt in your shoe. So whatever you're doing... So let me ask you a question. So what's Lonzo's excuse? He don't wear Pumas. I think, I mean, he

did hurt his original... He hurt his shoe and his daddy's shoe. And Big Baller. So was that shoe raggedy? Was that Big Baller shoe raggedy? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's right. And Big Baller. So was that shoe raggedy? Was that Big Baller's shoe raggedy? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's raggedy. There's a difference. I think there's a difference between a player's shoe and a shoe that they sell.

Of course. Yes. Yes. They need to really worry about what the structure of the shoe feels like for the player himself. Yeah. What you sell in the shoe is. No, because I'm sure they do all kinds of,

they do all kinds of monitoring. They put you in those things and they see how you stand and they have you run. And they see, as you said, the dorsal flexion of your ankle, how does it roll? I pronated in.

So I didn't really roll over the top gill. I rolled in because I was kind of, I was, you know, yeah, that's what normally happened to me. But structurally, anatomically, my parents was messed up. I got both my hips replaced.

My sister in a month, in two weeks, is getting both of her hips replaced. My brother got one of his hips replaced. He's going to get a knee replaced. You see? Ain't got nothing to do with you. My sister ain't play no sports and she about to get both of her hips replaced.

So my brother played seven years. Yeah. She ain't play no sports. And so, and sometimes structurally, is that I don't think when God created us, I don't think he created us like, you know what?

Yeah, I want y'all to be out there playing football. You know what I'm saying? I want y'all to be playing basketball. I want you to jump up high, and you know, you land on somebody's ankle. You start. It's a lot of torque. Even though Melo is a feet in frame,

that's still to be running as fast as you can with a basketball. Stop. Go in a different direction. Man, that's a lot of twerk on those joints. Yeah, it's real. When you're talking about just the basic mechanics, you have to understand your body. And it's

weird that the whole family is built strong but the two boys, right? But look how their brothers compared to Jell-O. Yeah. Look at Jell-O.

He's built like his dad and the others to a thin frame. Yeah. And that's the weird part about it. But I just think that when the taller you are, the lower your soul needs to be to the floor.

Right? Okay. I wish... Like People ask me, why did I wear running shoes? One, it was a thinner sole, lighter. Right? I didn't like those big, like the LeBrons or like Anthony Davis, those

big heel, two-inch sole, them two-inch heel. Hell no. Like my son, for the first time, he was trying out, he had a media day for his AAU team. Put on basketball shoes. He went up for a layup.

Pushed at his ankle. He's like, I'll never put on a basketball shoe again. Because he wears running shoes. Wow. The taller you get, the closer your foot needs to be to the ground. You can't be wearing,

motherfucker, three inch high heels on your shoes. And some of those, and so, yeah, some of those shoes is two and a half inches. Like, let's say you measure without your shoes, six, five.

With shoes, you want to be around 6'5", 6'6 1⁄2". You start jumping into 6'7 1⁄2", you got to watch it for your ankles.

Wow. I got, I mean, but here's the thing. Most blacks are flat-footed. We don't have a whole shit to begin with. So you have, you know what I'm saying? You know, we, most, especially athletes, most athletes, black athletes are flat-footed.

Yeah. And so you have to, we have, like, we used to have turtle shoes, but they had a narrow arch. Man, I couldn't wear that because I didn't have no arch to begin with. And I need, hey, I'm flat-footed. I need something, and I got a wide foot.

So I ain't got no, I don't have a narrow foot. So I need something that, oh, man, ooh, look at the shoes right there. Yeah, they look good, but I ain't going to be able to play in them because I'm going to roll a slap over the top of them. Yeah, there's like, there's some shoes that if I put them on, they just hurt my feet from the beginning. Like, it just hit my feet.

Like, there's shoes that the bottom of my feet will burn. Yeah. It just burns on the bottom of my feet. Like, some shoes, I can walk. I can step on a penny and twist my ankle. Roll right over the top. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.

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All right, let's do this. Four years. Where to begin? To my family, my mom, my MVP. To Baltimore and the Terps. To LSU, my PMAC home. To my teammates and coaches, managers and trainers, to God and his blessing of a life. Thank you. This was a difficult decision, but I trust the next chapter

because I know the author. Bayou Barbie, out. Bayou Barbie, out. I love that. I love that. The WNBA draft is just right around the corner. April 15th in New York. ESPN latest mock draft have her going seventh to Minnesota. Where do you think the best fit for her is going to be?

Indiana Fever has the first pick. Sparks have the second. Sky, third. Sparks have the fourth pick. Wings have the fifth. Mystics have the sixth. Minnesota have the seventh pick. Sky have the eighth.

The Wings have the ninth. And the Connecticut Suns have the tenth. She's going to be in the same color she's in right now, that purple and gold. Is she going to the Sparks? She's going to the Sparks. Sparks need two rebounding bigs, two shot blocker type

bigs and at the two, they can take the girl from South Carolina? No, the girl from Cameron Brink. And then they can take Angel Reese. That's the personality you need here South Carolina? Carmela Cardoso? No, no, no. The girl from... Cameron Brink? Cameron Brink. And then Angel Reese. That's the personality you need here.

That's the person that's going to sell tickets, right? You need that personality in Los Angeles. Like, the purple and gold is built off, like... Names. Names, charisma, style style swagger right and she she she checks those boxes off

yeah man it was a great run um she had an unbelievable career uh made a name for herself uh with the fashion you know the eyelashes she, her makeup on, her lip gloss, and she goes out there and she ball. At the end of the day, she's a heck of a player. She represented Baltimore extremely well. She represented LSU

extremely well, and I think she's making the right decision. There's nothing else for her to prove. She's won a national championship. She's been an All-American. She's been SEC Player of the Year. It's time to go, and it's time you know, that's what you do.

You graduate, you move on, and you say, okay, I'm ready for the next chapter in my life. And as she said, she knows the author. So she gets to write the story in her own words. words yeah and because this seems like it was planned there there there this has been um a scheduled drop on how she was going to release her her um announcement i'm pretty sure that the only way she was gonna come out is if her brand

itself was in a big city. I don't see the way this has all been dropped. I don't see she's coming into this draft not knowing where she's going. I don't see that. I just don't see that she's going to end up in Minnesota somewhere. I just don't see it. I think that her brand was going to be in the big city,

New York or in LA or Chicago. That's where her brand needs to be. Absolutely. Absolutely. She is an... Chicago. That's where her brand needs to be. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. She is an L.A. young lady. And like you said, her brand and what she wants to do, what she's trying

to represent, I think L.A. is the ideal situation for her. I wish her the best. This is for Angel Reese. DeJuan has asked, Gil, how do you feel about all the hate Angel Reese has gotten since last year?

You got more hate than I got. Go ahead, Gil. Listen, only successful people get hate. If you're not getting hate, you're not doing nothing that irritates people, right? You're doing just enough

to keep people out your business, right? The fact that she does get hate lets you know she's good. She's doing something that you don't like and it's irritating you so you don't like and it's irritating you so you don't like her. Mm-hmm. A lot of the hate for Angel

Reese, her and I are kind of different. A lot of the dislike and the jealousy and the envy come from people that look like me. A lot of the hate and the envy and jealousy at her looks like, don't look like her. Yeah, no, no. Because they don't like, see, this is all

this goes back to Jack Johnson and Muhammad Ali. They don't like they think you should be humble and meek. Be thankful that we allow you to play our sport. Be thankful that we allow you to take our money. Be thankful that we watch you. But

if you're great and you brag or you boast and you back it up, that's not how you're supposed to be. I want my athletes to be seen and not heard. So,

nobody cares what you want. You're not the athlete. You don't get to determine how we behave in our said sport. I mean, she's a double-double machine when she gave you 17 and 20

in the Elite Eight game on a bum ankle. Why? Why do we have... Well, such and such don't do it like that. That's not what this one did. So? But they did. They did. Remember?

Kaylin Clark might not talk, but do you see those mannerisms on the court? Yeah, she was like, she like, if we'd seen that mannerism, that the same mannerism that you hate injuries for came from Kayla Clark. It was her man. It was her. This. Yes. Doing this to players. Like we, no, no, no. We, we like no. We like that. We like that. We like that. Don't you do.

Larry Bird, one of the biggest trash talkers ever. John Stockton, it's part of the game. Just let it go. You're just mad that it happened back. When Kalen was doing it to the South Carolina girls, no one cared.

Your ass couldn't shoot, and she turned around on you. That's your problem. I ain't even looking at you. That's a hooper. A hooper does that to you. You can't shoot. I'm not guarding you. Turn around.

That has nothing to do with black and white. Right? You can't shoot? shoot. I'm not guarding you. Turn around. That has nothing to do with black and white. Right? You can't shoot? Huh. I'm sweltering down that brick. Right. Brick. She can't shoot a gun. That's what you do. And we enjoyed it. Yeah. And I, you know, look,

and you know, look, I think the thing is is that I think I've been around it and you've been around it long enough. A lot of people are happy that LSU lost. Yeah, of course. Because Angels own that team. And that's just the way it is. We like to see you rise,

but there's a fraction of us like to see the downfall as well. It's now. Now, the WNBA. Has this. They this is a moment that they need to capture. They have a rivalry. That's coming into the NBA, into the W. They do not make those games, wherever those two go, marquee games. Yep.

On special, whatever your special, whatever your special summer day is, Fourth of July, whatever. They need, those games need to be hyped Like when Magic and Bird came into the It was them two When those two played It was war

You have a built in audience already For both groups If you do not If you do not Exploit it Something is wrong with you And where you guys are You should be exploit it, something is wrong with you and where you guys are, you should be.

Like I said it on, you know, Gil's Arena. If I'm the USA team and the W, Kalen Clark will be invited. Juju will be invited. Angel Reese will be invited and Paige will be invited

to that team I think Kaitlyn Clark was the only one invited right? All of them will these are the four these are the four biggest names in women's basketball period right now Sabrina is probably

fourth or fifth in Asia, fifth and sixth. Those four girls in women's basketball right now is the biggest names. When you're talking about going to Paris, those four jerseys will outsell every jersey on the rest of that team. Those are going to be the biggest jersey sales for WNBA and women's. All four of them will move units. So if you do not put them on the team, you are doing your league a disjustice. When the NBA, that 0-4, they put LeBron James and Carmelo and D-Wade on the team, you are doing your league a disjustice. When the NBA that 0-4, they put LeBron James and Carmelo and D-Wade on the team.

People were like, oh, LeBron lost LeBron didn't play. Melo didn't get off that bench. It was for the names. It was to build their game. These are our young futures and we're going to put them on the team. You're only going to go about eight deep anyway

so you don't really need to play the four. And if you do, they're for specialty moments. Right. You're using them for the names. You're building these names for your league's future. I do not care about who deserves to be there. Congratulations. Heads need to be cut off

to move the needle in your sport. And if you're not willing to cut it off, do not complain. Right. I thank Kalen Clark. If you look at the team that I really watch is the Aces, the Vegas

team. Look at the passion and the fire that Asia plays with. Look at Chelsea Gray. Look at Kelsey Plum. I love that passion. You could tell it means something. They fighting tooth and nail. I love

Stewie. DT. I met DT when she was still I met DT when she was just I met DT when she was just she was as a matter of fact she had might have just they had might have just won the national the national championship her last year I think this was like 04

I met was it 04? I retired in 04 might have been 05 when I was the all-star game was in Denver and I met her. I just love I love the way they

play. I love the energy, the passion in which they bring and Asia and Caitlin Clark she definitely brings that passion. Paige brings that passion. Now Juju is a little bit more subdued. She's a little bit more subdued. But she a game strong.

Paige is fiery. You know, hey, she's not that long, that lineage of UConn great players. But I agree with you, Gil. I think this is a golden opportunity for the WNBA to take advantage. I wish

it could be like the college for the men that Juju could go if that's what she wanted to do. She could go like the college for the man that Juju could go if that's what she wanted to do she could go to the WNBA because I think her game is strong enough to go Paige has already made the decision that she's coming back but the others are going

and that's why I said you need to build that relationship for your your WNBA fan base. You need to think about it. Just think about it globally. We're watching how big the Elite Eight was, right? Now the same four girls on the U.S. team, what does that do to that fan base?

They're going to watch it too. Now you're going to be sitting, people are going to be sitting there trying to figure out when the WNBA because we never, what was the last time you watched a USA girls game? Yeah, I watched Gil, but at some point

in time, Gil, you got to start bringing some new girls on. DT ain't going to play in 28. Now, she's coming back in 24. I think this is going to be like a fifth Olympics. Sue Bird is already retired. I mean, at some point in time, you need to start bringing the influx of young girls in there so they can get some experience

on the international level. I mean, you get the experience, your jersey set. The opportunity they have today, they will not get it again for a while. That's why this moment in time is very important for them. The NBA has seen it, and they capitalized. They've seen when Kobe was done, when Jordan left.

Jordan left the game. Kobe. Kobe was right there. T-Mac. Kevin Garnett. They were looking like they were coming in their own. NBA went young, 2001 draft, all high school kids. Boom.

Took off. And that's where the game has been going, right? You have to look at the moment in time, and they don't come often. And when it comes, you got to strike and strike fast. Or put them on the... Because Kelsey Plum, because remember, they got a three-on-three tournament in the Olympics, too. Guys and gals.

Hey, because Kelsey Plum was on the three-on-three team with Stephanie Dawson. I forget some of the other young ladies that were a part of that. But they got... But at some point in time, you got to get them international experience. You got to get them...

I mean, you got to... I mean, it's just like you have to somehow try to bridge this big gap. And the gap that is that the W don't have is Juju's fan base, right? Paige Becker's

fan base, right? The fan base, like those girls got the high school girls still, right? Now, I'm going to tell you somebody who played it smart. Sabrina played like, the reason she's so big is because all her shoes is in high school basketball. High school basketball boys is wearing it. All the girls is wearing it.

So when Nike are putting their shoes out, they're not giving them the KDs and back then the Giannis', the Paul George's. They're giving them Sabrina's. Right. So she can push her product to the youth kids.

Kaitlyn Clark is the next one. She's going to get a signature shoe. Oh, yeah. Adidas, Nike. Someone needs to grab it. Somebody's going to get a signature shoe. Adidas, Nike. Someone needs to grab it. Somebody's going to throw a bag on them. I'm throwing a bag. This is the time when you've got to capitalize why the fire is hot.

If you don't and you miss it, you miss it. There's nothing you can do about it. Right. So congratulations, Angel. Great outstanding college career. Much success to you moving forward. Bayou Barbie is on the move, headed to the WNBA. Vince Carter and Chauncey Billy will be part of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame class of 2024.

The rest of the 2024 inductees will be announced Saturday evening at the NCAA Men's Final Four. What do you think about BC, Vinsanity, and Chauncey going into the Nate Smith Basketball Hall of Fame? I think it's great. Both players had remarkable careers. Vinsanity is Vinsanity.

He was a highlight reel. He's the one who really put Toronto on the map, right? If it wasn't for Vince accepting Toronto and understanding that what he does and who he is can

put a light on the whole country. The Toronto we see today, it was because of Vince. The women that was there, the Toronto we see today it was because of Vince like the women that was there no one knew those women was there until Vince was throwing parties there and you going in like

where did he come from this is what Toronto has Toronto is my he's the one who did that he deserves it. You know, Chauncey, you know, has been solid.

And, you know, that championship, big shot, big shot bill of that championship he brung, the Pistons, where I consider that Piston team

the best defensive team the Pistons ever had. Right? When you're talking about defense, that was a defensive team. The other team was brute hacking and all that. They, you know, the Pistons ever had, right? When you're talking about defense, that was a defensive team. The other team was brute hacking and all that, right? They, you know,

what Jordan said, they played dirty basketball. That 2014, they were a defensive team. They outsmarted you. They didn't use the physical. They were smarter. They played basketball

and they understood how to play defense with the rules of the game. Right. So Chauncey was the leader of that and he deserves it. Right. I know Chauncey. He went to George Washington in Denver, right down the street from where I was, where I lived at the time. So I've been knowing him since he was in high school. Great guy. Actually, I just saw him when I went to – I saw Primed and played when they played at CU. They was up at CU.

He happened to be there, so I had a great conversation with him. I'm happy for him also. Followed Vance when he was at NC, Toronto, and Orlando. I'm happy for those guys also, but I'm really, really especially excited for Johnson because I've been knowing him. I've been knowing him seemingly for like 30 years or so. Well, well-deserved.

The one year he spent at Colorado to play college ball for his hometown college team. Well, it's in Boulder, but his state was great, and I'm excited for Johnson to represent going to the Basketball Hall of Fame. And congratulations to him

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Gil, it's time for our last segment of the night, and it's a Q&A. we're experiencing some issues with guys with people being able to donate and ask questions so we're working on that asap so just bear with us upgrade king says greetings nightcap fan shouldn't mbp war for you most valuable player not the best player in the league why we complicate the award or change the name. Your thought, gentlemen.

That's what the players, the players themselves, we have that question. Is it the most valuable player or the best player on the best team? No one gets a real definite answer to this, right?

Like, we've seen what OKC looks like without shade. Right. That means his value, his importance to that team's success is very high, right? Which means he is a valuable player to his team, right? So it reminded me of when Westbrook was having a triple-double, right? He had to play 1,000 miles an hour. He had to rub his engine up to maximum to get them to win. When you're on the best team,

you don't necessarily have to go 100% all the time because you have all these guys with you. When Steph Curry and Clay and Katie was together, they didn't have to go 100%. Because, hey, you go, you go, you go,

and then I'll fit in where... Russell, to play against you guys, he can't take a playoff. No. So we always had that struggle with, what does it mean? Right? What does it really mean?

And we don't get a real definition. No one knows because the people who are voted don't give out real definition. No one knows because the people who are voted don't give out those answers. Right. Luke Husky asks, do you think we'll see Playoff P or Pandemic P in the playoffs? The last couple, well, this last

playoff, I think he got hurt. Playoff before last, the one Kawhi got hurt, that was Playoff P. Playoff P. Yeah, that's where he got his nickname from. I think Playoff P is coming. And, you know, it's just right now, everybody seems to be getting healthier

to get ready for this last push. And that's great for us. I don't see really anybody going into the playoffs with lingering injuries besides Shea. We don't really know how serious that thigh is.

For the most part, most teams have their star players right now. Cameron Norwood Jr., love the orange blazer you had on yesterday on first take. My question is, who do you have winning

defensive player of the year in basketball? And Gil, you're my favorite wizard player. Thank you, bro. You know, I had to break out a little something because Stephen A.

been on me lately about my gear, but he don't know I can put these rags together. I just, you know, I want to make everybody feel good. I think Wimby. I agree feel good. I think Wimby.

I agree with Gil. I think Wimby should win defensive player of the year. And that's not a knock on Rudy Gobert. But I think Wimby has been just as impactful and his blocks are just – the shots that he's blocking, he's coming out of nowhere. I'm like, where the hell you come from? He's chasing down people and blocking. He's just not coming weak side.

He's chasing down people and blocking the shot. He chased Jokic down several times last night to block his shot. No, this is the real... If I'm voting, this is what I will base it off of. If I switched both of them, if I switched both players and said, all right, Rudy, you're the defensive player on the Spurs and we're going to take Wimby. Would you have the same defensive rating? No, Rudy wouldn't. Because Rudy don't have the intangibles to do the things Wimby does.

We're only judging Wimby because his team is bad. When he's in the game, they're ranked one in defense. Remember, he's only playing 20-something minutes. So that means 20 minutes he's off the floor, which means this is what's going on when he's not on the floor. When he's on the floor, they're ranked one, and Minnesota's ranked two, and they have multiple defensive players.

Right. So single-handedly, he is number one by himself. Wow. I agree. I would vote Wembley. I think he's had a phenomenal season. He's even better than I thought. He's better than they himself. Wow. I agree. I would vote Wemby. I think he's had a phenomenal season. He's even better than I thought. He's better than they advertised.

Yep. They said he was going to be good. He's better. He's better than what they said. Yeah. He's, he's, he's,

he's skilled, but he's going to be more skilled. And you're not like, man, this dude's so thin, man. He can shoot the ball. He can put the ball on the floor at 7'4", 7'5".

He's blocking shot. He hustles. He's going to be good. And you know what? He's the next guy that's going to get a quadruple double. And he's going to get multiple of those. This is how we know he's good. There's only a few rookies that came into the league that really dominated.

You know what I mean? You talk about Magic Bird. You got MJ. Shaq. Shaq. You have LeBron came in. I mean, Allen Iverson came in. But for the most part with Luka, when you're talking about young,

when you're talking about young, it's only a young it's only a few now right bird came in at 22 jordan you know when he played his birthday he turned 22 that year but you're talking about magic was all of 19 right 19 yeah um luca you know wimby you know what i mean these guys are on the whole different you know strat, stratosphere. And, you know, I like what I'm seeing. And, you know, this is the rest of the season is going to be great. The summer is going to be very big for him. And I can't wait to see him next year. Yeah, I think he's going to make it.

He's going to get better. He's going to get stronger. He has an understanding of what the NBA is like. They're going to increase his minutes. So you increase his minutes two to three. That's more opportunities for him to score. That's more opportunities for him to block shots. And so I think he's only going to get better.

He strikes me as a guy that's willing to put the work in because he wants to be great. He understands that he's been given a lot of God-given ability. And to replay and to show how thankful he is to the man upstairs with that ability is to work his ass off with that skill. Yep, you're right. And so I'm anxious to see. I don't normally pay attention because I always thought the Spurs were broccoli. They're good to you, but they're boring as hell to eat.

You got to put cheese on them, and you got to have a nice steak and some baked potatoes to go long-winded for you to digest it. But Wimby makes you want to watch the Spurs. He really does. He makes you want to watch the Spurs, and I think they got something really brewing and special. Guys, that's it for Nightcap. Thank you guys for watching another edition of Nightcap.

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