Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bryce Young gets win, Dak Prescott injury, Christian McCaffrey return

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 10 of the NFL season including Carolina Panthers QB Bryce Young getting the win over Daniel Jones and the New York Giants in the NFL’s Munich, Germany game, Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott undergoing a season-ending surgery on his hamstring, San Francisco 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey makes his return vs. Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and much more!03:00 - Bryce Young gets win over Giants06:10 - Dak Prescott’s season-ending surgery08:30 - Dak Prescott has hamstring injury19:10 - Trevor Lawrence is not playing21:55 - Christian McCaffrey makes debut against the Bucs31:10 - Puka Nacua says he can play in the NBA(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. Bryce Young got the job done in Germany. Ochoa gets the Giants. Giants currently hold the number one pick in the NFL draft. Ochoa should the Giants draft Shador. Yeah, I tweeted that earlier. Prime ain't going to let that happen. I tweeted that earlier today.

Prime ain't going to let that happen. You don't think so? Nope. Have the Giants ever drafted a black quarterback before? Hell no, hell before? Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. Hey, the way you said it, that was funny.

Bryce Young, 15-25, 126 a touchdown. Cuba Hubbard had an outstanding day, 28 rushes, a buck 53, and a touchdown. They ran the had an outstanding day. 28 rushes, a buck 53, and a touchdown. They ran the ball 32 times for a buck 88. Daniel Jones was 22 of 37, 190, and two interceptions. But it was Tracy that fumbled in overtime that led to the game-winning field goal by the Carolina Panthers. Yeah.

You heard. Oh, yeah, boy. Oh, yeah. And they're talking about, you know, they're going to evaluate the quarterback position. Evaluate what? Who, huh? Yeah, they're talking about they're going to evaluate it.

They're open to making changes at the quarterback. It's too late now. Y'all might as well go and stick with Daniel Jones. You know he's saying that to save his job, huh? He can't save it. It's over. Well, hey, you might as well make a change. Who's the backup? Tyrod? No, Tyrod at the Jets.

Wait, I got the wrong New York team. I'm tripping. No, Joe. You might as well just... you know what you got. Might as well put him. Pull him. Might as well pull him. Hey, you talking about you evaluating him?

You want to give yourself a chance to win? A chance to do something? I mean, who's the backup in New York anyway? Who's the backup quarterback? It's somebody known, too. Drew Locke. Okay. Drew Locke.

Okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean, look. They gamble. Hey, GM, how that looking out? God, you can run the ball fairly well. I mean, Porter Jr.

runs the ball really well. Singletary? He's just your quarterback. No team is good enough to overcome poor quarterback play. Now, you might win a game or two because we saw tonight Jerry Goff turned the ball over five times and his team came back.

But you all – Other teams don't have that kind of high-power octane offense either. No. No, they don't. The Giants currently hold the number one pick. I stay in that position. But they have a new coach next year.

Dak Prescott is planning to undergo season ending surgery on a partially torn hamstring pending an opinion of one final specialist. Schefter added that Dak will meet with a specialist in New York, but the Cowboys doctor already believed he needs surgery that would sideline him for

four months. The Cowboys did not place Dak on injury reserve today, trading away a fourth-round pick four days before it comes out that your quarterback, hold on, that does make it even more egregious because you knew Dak was injured and you traded for, but anyway, I don't care that Mingo has two years left on his deal, completely insane price. If you know the season is probably over. That's what Dave Hellman...

Hey, Jerry said he was going to get a receiver. He said... You said he was going to get a receiver? He went and got one. He went and got one. Listen, we're going to see tomorrow. We're going to see tomorrow. I hope Dak has...

I hope Dak... He heals fast. I hope he heals fast. You know, scrap... It's over. It's off the ball. I'm just saying, I hope he heals fast. I'm definitely not... He can heal slow. I'm not talking about the comeback. I mean, this season hope he heals fast. I'm definitely not. He can heal slow.

I'm not talking about the comeback. I mean, this season, I mean, just in general. We're on the hill fast, so he can get back in. He can not get back out there on the field, but just get back into a groove of working yourself back into shape and being able to throw the ball. That's one thing you don't play with. Soft tissue injuries.

That groin, that groin, that hamstring. The Achilles area, your calf. Calf. I don't miss that for nobody. You see what? Hamstring. Zion's going to miss time with a hamstring.

Kevin Durant's going to miss time with a calf. Because you're not playing with your lower body. Where you going? No thing grabbing. I mean. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, hopefully, like you said,

he gets the final prognosis. He gets done what he needs to get done. And he's ready to come back next year and rebuild. Dak is dealing with a partial avulsion, which is off the bone, a hamstring, which means part of the tendon has pulled away from the bone. He has not been put on injury reserve.

If he is put on injury reserve, he would have to sit out a minimum of four games, which would keep him out until at least December 9th against the Bengals. That's a win for y'all, Ocho. But that probably would need longer to recover than the four-week period that the injury reserve requires. Teams says confidence in Cooper Rush is there for Cooper, but we know what Cooper can do.

Ocho, is it time to see Trey Lance? I mean, even if we do want to see Trey Lance, I mean, the backup quarterback is Cooper Rush. And we say we know what Cooper Rush can do. Actually, we don't because we haven't seen Cooper Rush this year. We don't know how Cooper Rush is going to look with this offensive line. We don't know how Cooper Rush is going to look without the running game. We don't know. So we have to see Cooper Rush with this Dallas Cowboys defense because the Cooper Rush we did see, the Dallas Cowboys was a completely different team then.

It was a completely different team. They could run the ball a lot better. They could play defense a little better. Exactly. So the Cooper Rush we're going to see now is a different type of Cooper Rush that has different players around him, and he's going to have to do more. He's going to have to do more. So, I mean, I would love to see Trey Lance.

I don't want to see Trey Lance with that offensive line. I don't want to see Trey Lance as a Dallas Cowboys quarterback with no running game. I don't want to see Trey Lance as a Dallas Cowboys quarterback with only CeeDee Lamb to throw the ball to. No disrespect to the rest of the receivers, but I'm just being honest.

They wouldn't have got Brother Mingo. Brother Mingo from the Pan to. No disrespect to the rest of the receivers, but I'm just being honest. They wouldn't have got Brother Mingo. Brother Mingo from the Panthers. No disrespect to him either. My young boy wasn't even getting or seeing the field the way he should be as a Carolina Panther. But Jerry says we're going to make a move for every receiver. I thought you'd be making a move for someone that can contribute

and come in right now and make a difference and help bolster that offense. I'm trying to figure out. The Cowboys gave him a fourth-round pick for Jonathan Mingo. Mocho, the Chiefs gave him a fifth-round pick for Dee Hop. The Jets gave him a fourth-round pick for Devontae Adams. The Ravens got Deontay Johnson for a fifth-round pick. The Cowboys got Mingo for a fourth-round pick.

And Jerry said, can't nobody do a better job than him. I think age. I think age might have something to do with that. You think age has anything to do with that? Age. You based the pick on the value. The value. Which one of those guys, you think Hopkins or Adams,

is more valuable? Who's more valuable, Mingo, Adams, or Hopkins? I mean, obviously the one with the more extensive resume. Okay. The Chiefs gave up a fifth-round pick to get DeHop. The Jets gave up a fourth-round pick to get Devontae Adams. The other guy wasn't even playing. Yeah.

And you gave up a fourth-round pick, and you want to tell your fans, and you want to get on radio and on camera and crow about nobody can do a better job than you. The person that delivers the mail could have done a better job than you. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't understand the decision-making by the Cowboys, their organization. Ain't no Cowboys. Jerry. No damn Cowboys. I don't understand.

I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. Ocho, the sad part is he don't know what he's doing. You're right. I'm not going to criticize. You told me not to.

You told me to slow down in that area and being critical of that individual. So I'm going to let you have that. He don't know what he's doing. He don't. It ain't my fault he don't know what the hell he's doing. Damn. Damn. See, here's the problem that he has.

See, here's the problem that Jerry has see here's the problem that Jerry has Jerry wants to be the smartest in the room you see what happens when you run a business you don't need to be the smartest in the room because if you're the smartest in the room why are the other mofos in the room I was just going to say that if you're the smartest in the room

you were actually in the wrong damn room you're in the wrong room to begin with this bad game in the wrong damn room. You're in the wrong room to begin with. That's a bad game. This bad game with four-round people, and do they play it? Let me see. What last time?

Let me see. I got to Google him, Ocho. I got to see. Keep on talking, Ocho. I mean, I just can't believe that Jerry did that. I mean, he had to make a move though, huh? Who else was out to get? He had to make a move, whatever that move was going to be.

No, he didn't. He had to make a move of what? So let me ask you a question. Do you believe he's improved his team with this acquisition? Because you make a move, you're making a move to improve your roster. He didn't say he was going to make a move. He didn't say the move was going to be one to improve the roster, but what he did do, he added a body.

He added a body. Maybe a change of senior is good for Mingo. Maybe a change of senior is good for him, and he comes to the Cowboys, and he's able to contribute in the way that he couldn't with the Panthers. Okay. I'm hoping that's the case

for the Cowboys. He was a second he was a second round pick out of mississippi he had 12 reception for 121 yards he had one catch in the past four games only two games in his career has he had more than four catches nah hey it's that that sucks man he was averaging he's tied for the lowest mark by a wide receiver with at least 50 targets at less than four yards and less than five yards per target. You know what, also, it's not being in position to make those plays. That's like, I mean, based on the stats that you just read off to me,

they're like, here, we're going to give you minimal opportunities with the basics and see what you can do with it. That's why his numbers look like that. Ocho, do you realize? Yes, sir. They traded Amari Cooper for a fifth-round pick to Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, I don't know why. The Buffalo just traded a third or fourth round pick to Cleveland to get a Coupe. And the Cowboys traded him for a fifth. And they just traded a fourth to get this dude. So let me ask you this. At what point

in time do you think this dude was better than Coop and should have went for a high pick? The way them owners think, boy. Nah, ain't no owners. The way he think. Yeah. Ain't nobody doing that to you. He's only in his second year, ain't he?

Young Bull might be what? Yes. He was a second round pick in 23. Damn, ain't he? Young Bull might be what? Yes. He was a second-round pick in 23. He's a baby, boy. Yeah, he's a baby. He got – They gave him a third in Cleveland to get Amari Cooper. Jerry traded him three years ago for a fifth. How you trade a guy for a fifth three years ago,

and three years later he go for the team that you traded him to for a fifth three years ago and three years later he go for the team that you traded him to for a fifth, trades him for a third. Now why they do that? He was trying to get that goddamn salary off the books. That's what he was trying to do. Okay. Get the salary off the books.

But do you realize how foolish you look by doing it? Yeah. But you still, even though you got, even though you don't have to pay for the upcoming season, you still got dead money on your books. Yeah. So if I got dead money on the books, at least I'm going to get a high-ass draft pick for him. Think about this, Ocho.

The guy was stuck on the bench. Yeah. So the Panthers wanted to get rid of him. The Panthers got no leverage. Ocho, he's not playing. He's getting what he's had. Hold on. How many catches have you had the last two?

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He's definitely not going nowhere. So, if anything, players get coaches fired. Based on Trevor Lawrence's performances this year, he probably could get Doug Peterson and might be out. One of the few bright lights that are shining over there in Jacksonville is that goddamn Bryce Thomas Jr. Every time I get an opportunity to give young bull praise, that's one of the

great things going on for them offensively outside of ATN, when he's healthy, that's it. And Trevor Lawrence, he has the look. He has the look. He has the pedigree, the arm strength, you know, the size and the moxie

or all the things the scouts looking for a franchise quarterback. And I thought he was that. I thought he was that. He just hasn't been able to get over the hump and have the consistency that the other quarterbacks have. The C.J. Strouds, hell, the Jayden Daniels who's only been there in a year and he's doing it already.

Who else? The Joe Burrows, the Josh Allens. Until he finds a way to find that consistent rhythm week in and week out. You know, you're going to have bad games. You're going to have bad. Yeah. Strings them together back to back to back and shows flashes of brilliance and who we can be. You got to get out of those flashes of brilliance and show a little bit more consistency.

And that's the only way the Jaguars are going to be in contention or even yeah i don't know how peterson saves his job on show not after this year they missed the playoffs last year remember at one point in time they were the number one seed in the afc and they pretend to lose uh they proceed to lose the last four or five games and knock themselves out of playoffs not only not only not win the division but they don't even make the playoffs. And then the year before, they had a 24-0, 27-0 lead, and they end up losing that game in the playoffs against the Chargers. So I think it's just a matter of time. I think it's borrowed time in which he's on.

I agree with you. Doug Peterson is not coming back in 25. Trevor Lawrence is because they paid him a boatload of money, and you move him now, that's going to probably be $100-plus million in dead cap. And plus, he's only 25 years of age. So you're not moving on from him, but I don't see it. I like Doug Peterson, but I just don't know how he saves his job unless they go on a seven-game win streak and end up winning the division or making the playoffs.

But other than that, Ocho, I don't see how he saves his job. You can't. I was going to say Christian McCaffrey will make his debut this weekend against the Bucs. Are the 49ers about to get back on track? Ocho, they got the Bucs at Tampa. They got Seattle at home, at Green Bay, at Buffalo, Chicago at home, Rams at home, at Miami, Chicago at home, Rams at home, at Miami,

Detroit at home on a Monday night, and flex game, 2BD, against Arizona Week 18. Do you think they go on the run? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think they would have went on the run even if CMC didn't come back. I think they would have went on the run. But just adding him back to that offense and the dynamic that he brings in the passing game and running game is tremendous.

It makes it that much more difficult for you to defend them, you know, defensively. You know, I know Brent and Ayuk is out. I think Juwan Jennings is coming back. I could be wrong if I'm not mistaken. Debo's back. Kiddles is still there. And CMC, that makes them that much more drainage.

Mike Shanahan with CMC back. The playbook opens up even more exponentially. That's a big word for me. I can't spell it, but it's a big word for me. Saquon was drug tested after reverse. I remember the day. Oh, joy. Explain why the NFL does this to people at home.

When something spectacular guy has, you know, three touchdown catches or 200 yards or 180 yards rushing. A guy has three, four sacks. All of a sudden, randomly, he comes up on a drug test. Anytime you have a game like that, Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase, please expect a drug test in your locker tomorrow or Monday morning, whatever day it is. Normally, when you have a performance like that, a performance that doesn't happen as frequent or as often, they drug test you. I'm not sure what they're thinking they're going to catch. I think they just have insight, well, this doesn't happen as often as it should. So the fact that it happened today and in this game, and you've had numbers that are kind of extraordinary, we're going to test you and see if you took some that resulted in helping you perform the way you did today. It's weird. I'll never forget. I got drug tested a few times. One that I can remember, clear as day,

was a performance after we played the San Diego Chargers. I'll never forget. We played the San Diego Chargers. I think I had a 260-yard day. 260-yard day, two touchdowns, two touchdown game. James broke your record tonight? I think he had. What did he have, 264 tonight? He broke my record last year, his rookie year.

Remember, he had 266. Oh, yeah. He broke it last year. He had 266. Oh, yeah. He had 266. He broke it last year. He had 264 tonight. And, I mean, to be able to have multiple games like that is unreal. Unreal. And you have to think today. Today's game is a lot different than it was when we were playing, huh?

You know? We were running first. Now, they throw the goddamn ball all over the place. You can't play defense. You can't touch nobody. So the game is kind of different now, where it's almost damn near like 707, with helmets and pads on. But, dude, that motherfucking Chase, man.

Shit. That motherfucker special. That boy special. Ocho, one of the NFL players is an heir to a $500 million potato empire. St. Center, Conor McGregor, is in his eighth NFL season, and his family company is the biggest potato producer in America. Their main potato supplier are McDonald's, Raising Cane's, Wendy's, and Frito-Lay chips.

And when Conor and McGrubbin was drafted by the Broncos in 2016, some of his teammates were curious why he was playing football when he could make far more money back home farming. His response, I wanted to make a name for myself and show that my hard work earned myself something, and I wasn't riding the coattails of everybody. But whenever his NFL career ends, the 31-year-old said he would go back to R.D., his family's company, back to research, I guess research and develop,

though he said he'll work his way up from the bottom just like everybody else and earn his way up just like he did in his football career. So the next time you're snacking on McDonald's fries, remember those potatoes are likely coming from Conor McGovern's family farm. That's dope. That's dope. And I like that. Most of the time when you have success or a kid is born into wealth, they don't have that same drive and that work ethic it takes to want to work and actually put the work in to earn and see what it's like to have the responsibilities and what it takes to earn that kind of money to be able to support yourself. So I'm not sure if his parents raised him that way, but the fact that he is the way he is is commendable.

And then not only for the business to already be successful, but to have an NFL career and say, I'm going to make good money in the NFL, and then when I do retire, I'm going to start from the bottom of the business and work my way back up to the top. Ain't too many people built like that, huh? Yeah, but he should because I'm sure he doesn't know the business because he was like playing football, college football, NFL football, like the people that's already there. Although a lot of times, yeah, you're right, Ocho, a lot of times family members, hey, my family company, I want to start at a VP level as opposed to an entry level,

learn the ropes, and work your way up. That's why I've always been impressed by Peyton Manning. His dad made lots of money. Eli made lots of money. And they're going to be number one draft picks overall and make careers for themselves. You have to commend that. When your dad is somebody, your mom, your family is somebody,

and you say, yeah, that's fine and good, but I want my own name. And that's what people used to tell me all the time. Man, your brother got money. That's his money. My brother don't want to be taking care of no grown-ass man. He got a wife and kid. So I want to earn my own. I want to do my own thing. I appreciate everything that my brother gave me. He gave me just enough to make me

desire to get more, but on my own. I saw the thing that he had and he knew I wanted to be like him. Hey, bro, check this out. Look what I got. Damn.

Inspiring, ain't it man and i went got everything with the exception with the exception he had a uh i don't know if you remember this ojo but in the 80s they came out with a bmw called the m3 it had it had a spoil on the back and everything with the exception of that and he had a typhoon every other car that my brother had i got it you got one he got a ferrari i got a ferr and he had a typhoon every other car that my brother had I got it he got a Ferrari I got a Ferrari he got a big Benz I got a big Benz whatever car he had

I got because that's what I saw that's what drove that's what motivated me and for Conor McGrath governed family to be who they are and he said nah yeah that's good fine but I want my own name and no matter what happens I've had a who they are. And he said, nah, yeah, that's good. Fine. But I want my own name. And no matter what happens, I've had

an NFL career that's expanded eight years. Maybe it goes nine, ten, who knows. But when my career's over, yeah, I'm still young. Think about it. He'll only be 30. Let's just say for the sake of argument, his career goes another two years. He'll be 33 years of age.

Yeah. I mean, he's made good money. He can retire if years of age. Yeah. He can, I mean, he's made good money. He can retire if he want to, but he said, no, we're going to go into the family business and we're going to expand. So I, I bet I love that. I love, I love, I love when kids come from wealthy families or well off families and don't feel entitled. I love that. No matter what you know,

you know what you want to say, because a lot of times they have access. Bronnie had access. LeBron made sure he had the best trainer. He had the best nutritionist. He had the best coaches. He had the best of everything. But the kid says,

I want to make it on my own. Now he's never going to be able to outrun his dad's shadow. His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan kids. They're never going to be able to outrun his dad's shadow. His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan kids. They're never going to be able to outrun the door's dad's shadow. But just because that's my dad, I shouldn't walk for myself.

So you mean to tell me I can't walk to accomplish something. Just my last name is supposed to get it. So I commend the kids. I commend them. I love the opportunity. Look, you're supposed to give them an opportunity. All this old nepotism. And nip your

ass out of my face. But like I said, I love when kids want to be something on their own. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I can't do anything. I can't help who my parents are, what I was born into. But I have a desire to be known by more than that.

I did that on my own. Yeah, that's my brother. But Sterling ain't catch no passes at Savannah State. He ain't catch no passes for the Broncos or the Ravens. So no matter what's up, and y'all know this, you know this, NFL want to know who can help. Can you help me win games? That's all it come down to.

Because Sterling ain't playing over here. He playing on the green bay. He helping green bay win games. So kudos to you, Connor McGovern. Ocho, Ramsar Puka Nakua says he could play in the nba with ease i think it would be so easy to transition from the nfl to the nba less than three months listen i listen as much as i love i love puka i love my nfl players especially the elite players at the at the nfl level i don't think they understand. I know you go to L.A. Fitness, you go to the rec center,

maybe you play with hoopers sometimes, maybe you play with tall players sometimes. I don't think they understand the difference and how good the, not even the elite, some of the worst NBA players, how good they are once they're in a structured environment. And it's disrespectful for Puka to be able to say, you know what, I can come and transition and things Puka to be able to be able to say you know what I can come in transition and things easy them dudes is good man even as good as you may think you are when you're playing

against regular people it's different it's different Ian I understand that because I ran with them I ran with them I ran with them in New York what's the name of the gym JR everybody work out at uh yeah man listen man I thought I 55. Yeah, man, listen, man. I thought I can get out there because I'm quick, you know, I'm fast, and, you know, I'm twitchy. Man, shit. I ain't had – listen, I felt bad. I felt embarrassed because I had no business out there.

None of my shit was working. But let me ask you this, Swin. But here's the thing, Ocho. When you said he can play, I ain't thinking – I don't think he's talking about he's going to go get 15. I think he's saying he can get some rebounds, set some picks. I mean, that's it, man. You come off a pick unless you got to be a real shooter like that. You know, come off a pick or something like that.

Come off a screen. But, man, listen, man. Then you got them trees down there, too. 6'9", 6'10", 6'11". And they got 40 inverters. You got twos at 6'6", 6'11". And they got 40 in reverse. You got twos at 6'6", 6'7". Man, you ain't doing nothing with that, man. You ain't doing nothing with that, man.

At all. Unless you special. And he don't have that kind of talent like a Ja Morant or a Russell Westbrook where you just finna blow by people based off skill set DNA. Nah. Uh-uh. He got a nice little game.

He was on my team in celebrity all-star game. He got a nice little game. No, I ain't say he got no NBA game. Damn. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just making a show now. That's why I say against regular people, he look good. Yeah.

He gets you three or four rebounds or something like that, Ocho. I ain't say anybody go out there and hit like four, five threes. Hey, man, it's different, man. Let me ask y'all this. What you think is the easier transition? Oh, the easier transition is basketball to football. You think so? Why you say that?

Yeah, because – no, no, no, no. But here's the thing. Normally, guys that transition, they play football. Right. You don't see no football player say, you know what, no, Charlie Ward did. Charlie Ward played football and basketball in college. And you see a lot of guys that transition. Tony Gonzalez played football and basketball.

Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers, football and basketball. Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers, football and basketball. Ronald Curry. Yeah. But I think the thing is that it all depends on the position. A lot of times you're a tight end, Jimmy Graham, or you being a D lineman. Mm-hmm.

You ain't playing no wide receiver. You ain't playing no DB.. You ain't playing no DB. Yeah, see, that's my thing. When I told me, dog, when I was getting recruited in high school, they told me, my cousin went to Miami, right? So he ended up playing. He was playing DN and shit. So I'm like, all right, cool. He said,

man, look, cuz, I ain't gonna lie. The last couple of cats they brought down here, they was our size. They made tight ends. I said, listen, bro, I holla at y'all. I ain't playing no tight end, dog. I ain't blocking. I ain't doing none of that. I holla at you. I gotta put on another 45 pounds, 220.

Like, no, dog. I'm not doing that. Nah, you'd be good. They'd put 20 pounds on you. You'd be hailing tight end. I'm straight, man. I ain't blocking nobody. I ain't, no. And y'all got, so y'all got, see, that's the't blocking nobody. See, that's the difference for me. See, for football to basketball,

intellectually, y'all are way smarter than what y'all seem. Y'all be in these meetings, y'all know all the plays, y'all got a book this long. Bro, I've been on teams with dudes, we got 10 plays, they don't know nothing. No.

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