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Coach D. Shine as they beat the bears the defense held chicago to 63 yards rushing four sacks three turnovers the coach gave up nearly 500 rushing yards to the first two opponents yet the bears
attempted 52 passes i don't know why chicago had 247 yards in the first half it was shut out in the
second uh in the shutout at the half after four straight runs and shotgun in the first half. It was shut out in the second. And shut out at the half after four straight runs.
And shotgun in the four-yard line and didn't yield a touchdown.
This game featured two of the youngest quarterbacks in NFL,
Richardson and Williams.
Caleb Williams responded late.
Touchdown throw to Roma Dunzey.
And Cole Komet, his first two NFL passing touchdowns.
Boy, they got a lot to learn.
Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't
miss, this is the only game I couldn't see.
Ocho, they got a lot to learn.
They still, it's hard.
They, Richardson
is still trying, both of them
are still trying to make throws
that they made in college, and I keep
telling them. They got the arm.
They got the arm to do it, though.
No, they don't.
You can't make them throws, Ocho.
You're not finna roll one way
and throw back across the field.
Two picks.
I don't know what...
His Richardson first interception
in the end zone,
even if the ball wasn't tipped,
it was gonna get picked.
He got three...
Dude, round the guy.
And then he rolls and
tries to throw back across the field. The same thing
with Caleb Williams. Bro, you're not
getting away with those throws in this league.
The guys are too good.
This is not you.
You're not playing Louisiana Monroe.
You're not playing
the FCF team. These
guys are the best of the best.
They make you pay for mistakes.
So stop putting your team in harm's way.
I think Anthony Richardson would be good,
but he's got to stop making these mistakes
and he's got to learn some touch.
Bro, I mean, sometimes he's throwing the ball,
the guy from me to this wall,
and he's throwing it like he's throwing it in a hurricane.
Bro, some touch.
Yeah.
And Caleb, you 52 times?
Come on, bro.
Come on, y'all doing.
I wish.
I wish I was playing in the offense when he threw the ball 52 times.
I wish.
Because that's a receiver's dream.
You know how many?
Listen, some teams only ran 65 plays.
Sometimes you only run 65 plays and 52 of those are in the air.
Yeah, but that means you're going to probably lose.
If you throw the ball that many times, you're probably going to lose.
It ain't going to be very many times now.
It ain't going to be very many times that you win a game
when you throw the ball that much.
You're behind.
You're probably behind.
And you're probably going to lose the game.
Now, if you want some stats, those are great.
But you're not winning 52 times.
What if you throw it 52 times and you win in the game?
What if you throw it 52 times and you're efficient?
What if you throw it 52 times and the quarterback is 48 for 52?
Yeah, but Ocho, what are the like?
Normally, when you throw that many times, what are you?
You're behind.
And teams will let you do that so times what are you? You're behind. And teams will let
you
do that so they don't give up anything
cheap or deep.
Right. Just keep them in front of us.
Yeah. I mean, I just
some of the guys and they just, I'm going to show
you. I just want to know because Andrew
Richardson said that the college was harder
than the NFL. I want to know if he still feels
that way.
Wait, he said it last year. Wait, he said it last year.
No, he said it this year.
Before he got hurt.
He said it this year.
Oh, he said it this year?
I don't really think he meant that, though.
I don't know if he meant it or not.
He would just be, he would probably be.
If a girl called you ugly, oh, she ain't mean that.
That ain't what she meant.
She said it. Nah, if a girl, you ugly, oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it.
Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah,
but you gotta listen. You know,
a girl call you ugly, sometimes she flirting, and she really don't mean that. But, you know,
sometimes she said to keep you humble. No, don't
keep me humble. My grandma
called me ugly all my life, growing up.
I'm gonna take your word for it. I'm done with you.
Oh, ugly self. Okay.
They don't try to convince nobody.
Did you mean that?
You remember the other day you said I was ugly. Did you mean it?
No, you said I'm good. I'm going to keep it moving.
You can't take it personally.
I ain't taking it personally.
What I look like trying to say is somebody going to call me ugly and they think I'm fit to be with... What I look like trying to get somebody to go call me ugly
and they think I'm going to be with them.
I mean...
Come on.
Ocho,
we grown. You do that in the
fourth grade when you were in elementary
school. You got a crush on somebody.
You hit them with your ugly self.
You make me sick.
We grown now. We don't play no type of games.
That means she really like you.
Nah, nah.
I mean, she at real call me
ugly sometimes.
Was she mad at you?
Yeah.
Exactly.
When are women
the most honest?
When they what?
When they're angry. When they what?
Thank you.
Maybe I am.
Listen,
I'm not the
top ten in the world.
I'm not strong six and a half, especially
with a haircut. If I get a haircut,
oh, long as I'm above five,
I'm straight. Now, when I ain't got
no haircut and I ain't been on the waist, I'm above five, I'm straight. Now, when I ain't got no haircut and, you know, I ain't been on the waist,
I'm a strong girl.
I mean, look.
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what you like.
I'm looking for, like you said, I'm trying to be a strong 6'7".
A 7'?
Yeah, I mean, you say if you want your girl girl you wouldn't want your you want you so i mean
you say what what would you say rails what nine ten a nine not real real she probably i get i give
seven and a half she is hey rail you heard nah she ain't there meisa ain't there listen my dog
man she about a 10
I out kicked McCurdy though
you did
and the only reason she probably
listen the only reason she with me is
I won because of my personality
that's it
I'm just being honest cause you know what they say
if you can make a woman laugh
you can laugh I ain't gonna say it you know what I'm just being honest because you know what they say, if you can make a woman laugh you can laugh
I ain't going to say it, you know what I'm trying to say
I get what you're saying
Baker Mayfield said Tom Brady intensity
led to a stressed
locker room, the building was a little different
when Tom was here, obviously
playing wise, Tom is different, he had
everybody dialed in, high strung environment
so I think everybody was pretty stressed
out, they wanted,
they wanted me to come in and be myself,
bring the joy back to the football for our guys who weren't having much fun.
Baker said, Brady had a very, very different person.
He and Brady have very different personalities.
Brady would play mind games that included unseen battle between quarterback
and play caller.
You hear some of the stories about it didn't play a certain call. if a certain play was called and he didn't like it throughout the week and they
still called to play in the game there might have been a throw away on purpose or throwing it at the
running back or the receiver's feet there's a lot of mind games going on you got a problem with baker
airing out uh secrets i mean no not. I mean, those aren't bad secrets.
If you understand what it takes to win and based on Tom's resume and what he's done in the past, it obviously works for him.
He went from New England and went to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year there.
So obviously the secrets that he is letting out and exposing is a good thing.
Now, it might not work for Baker,
but it worked for Tom.
And there's a reason why they got a goddamn Lombardi because of those
secrets that he's talking about.
You mean to tell me like highly successful people want things a certain way
and they expect it to be that way.
Yeah,
most definitely.
Most definitely.
Okay.
Definitely.
Especially those that know what it takes to win.
Yeah.
But to each his own.
Well, you should know.
You play with him.
This ain't no surprise to you.
Yeah, I play with him.
Yeah, and also the funny thing about it is the New England time Brady
and the Tampa Bay time Brady,
you got to see his personality. You got to see the fun side of Brady. You got to see Brady on social media. You got to see Brady, the content creator, man. Some of those videos were creative
and you got to see a different side of him. That was more fun. It was more relatable.
Even if you didn't play the game of football look i understand i understand um that's
how mike what look mike i think the thing is like like mike allowed us to have fun but we knew when
it was time to work it was time to work i made sure because i like the privileges that we had he
he let us be loose but it was my responsibility to make sure that when we showed up to practice, we showed up to walk
through, except that one day
they came out there with flip flops and
Tim's on and walked through.
Mike said, that
ish won't ever happen again.
I said, see,
you can't let us have nothing.
I said, y'all know better.
Y'all know how my deal is.
We're going to take it too far every time. I said, y'all know, Bill. Y'all know how my idea is.
We're going to take it too far every time.
Me, look, that's Baker told that.
I wouldn't have told it.
I'm not surprised that Tom was wired like this.
You don't win that much by accident.
Things have to be because that's what he's used to.
Where did he come from?
People that were in the military,
they normally have a very strict household because they're used to structure.
Make your bed, put your shoes up,
take your shoes off, put them dishes up.
Don't leave dishes in the sink.
Put that trash away.
Take that trash out. That's how my grandfather was
So that structure I
thrive in structure
now I
Come home and stuff without without a whack
Why I just need to know why?
Because I don't know when it only one that's left for work.
Right.
Yeah, you see how you're looking?
Yeah, that's the look.
That's the look.
Now you see.
Right.
It's got to be a certain way.
I work well with structure.
I work well with discipline.
But I don't believe, you know, look, people love Tom.
I don't think anybody's surprised by this.
When you win like he's won, you see him on the sideline when things are not going his way.
Guys dropping passes or things, if they're not in sync.
Right.
So I'm not surprised one bit by this.
I'm not, I'm not surprised at all.
Yeah, it's not a bad thing either.
It's not a bad thing.
I think if we were talking about something that wasn't successful
that they were doing and still had that same approach to it.
I don't see our situation that you can be like that
because ain't nobody going to listen to you if you're not successful.
Nobody gives a D.
Bingo.
So you've got to have a level of success coach belichick
had he not won early in new england you think they're gonna listen to him and let him let him
get away with what he got away with absolutely not absolutely absolutely not and the same thing
with tom because tom had won so much hey what do got to lose? We ain't won jack in 20 years.
There we go. Why not?
That's why if you
win, guys will follow
you. It's easier to get people to follow
you when you're winning as opposed
to when you're losing. They're like,
because,
Ocho, you know this. I mean,
we lose a couple of games. Hey,
stop sitting on your helmet. Oh, so that's why couple of games. Hey, stop sitting on your helmet.
Oh, so that's why we lost the game because I'm sitting on my helmet now.
Oh, pick up the trash.
The team knew we had a dirty locker room.
Oh, they got a dirty locker room.
We're going to run through them.
Come on, man.
They find every little thing.
Why we lose.
Everything is magnified.
The locker room was dirty when we was winning too.
Everything is magnified. It locker room was dirty when we was winning too. Everything's magnified.
It is.
It absolutely is.
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According to Adam Schefter,
several teams have expressed interest in trading for Bryce Young.
You're never going to get what you gave up to get it.
Despite the fact Dave Canales said Carolina Panthers did not intend to trade
a former number one overall pick.
He said you weren't going to bench him either.
According to Schefter, although the Panthers have said
they don't plan to trade Young at this time,
sources around the league believe it's only a matter of time
before Carolina actually does complete a deal.
I like to see him.
I like to see a change of scenery.
I like to see a change of scenery.
Where he goes is very important.
I'm not sure if he'll be a starter,
but maybe due to injury, based on where he goes,
if a starting quarterback goes down and he's able to get in there um with the an adequate offense with a good supporting cast then we can get to see
the Bryce Young that we're used to seeing when he was at Alabama and it's unfortunate that it
came to this and I think the benching is so early and only a second year because of the impatience
of Dave of Mr. Tepper.
And Dave Kanellis knows that, knows that very well.
You know, the fire Frank Wright,
Frank Wright 11 games in, in the season,
because things weren't going well.
Mr. Kanellis knows that as well.
He knows his leash is short if they don't continue to win. And he just felt that they couldn't win Bryce Young at the time.
And he's going to learn.
I don't think much is going to change with Andy Dalton at the helm, too.
No, you already – again, Andy Dalton – if Andy Dalton is the answer,
I need to know the question you're asking.
Second of all, though, Joe,
do you realize how far you would have set this organization back?
Because if you miss that, you miss on that guy.
Yeah.
Now, you're probably not going to be in a position to draft another one.
And if you do, then what?
If you don't surround – if you draft another quarterback
and you don't surround him with anything,
the same thing is going to happen to that quarterback
that happened to this one.
Right to square one.
And it's probably going to keep happening until they draft right.
And I'm not going to look.
The way he treated Steve Wilks
after he turned that program around with Matt Rule
and you didn't even give him a...
I don't wish bad.
I'm just like my grandma used to say,
boy, I don't wish bad on nobody,
but I sure don't wish good on either.
So I'm not saying I wish bad,
but I don't wish prosperity either.
I just think he's handled some situations very poorly.
I think Steve Wilks deserves an opportunity to get that job,
and hopefully another opportunity presents itself for Steve.
But that was a very – I mean, he doesn't have patience.
I don't know how he thought he was going to be a great owner without patience.
Because you got to have that, Ojo.
You got to have it.
That's rule number one. That's rule number one
in business in general. Forget owning
a team, being an entrepreneur,
running a business.
And now we talk about the NFL.
Like, you can't use
money and buy your way
into winning. It takes time.
It takes time.
And then, you know, they show the situation
I think his ex is dating Tyrese
Max. I think that's on
his mind. You see what I said, Ocho?
You see? You think so?
If you keep your stuff private,
if you keep your stuff private, you
can break up in private.
Yeah. If you date publicly, you're going to have to break up publicly.
And then everybody's going to start speculating.
That's why he's playing bad.
That may or may not be the case.
But I see guys, they have no girlfriend and play like crap.
Guys be married and play terrible.
I mean, we got to stop automatically assume because somebody's playing bad, there's
something going on in their lives
that's leading them to play bad.
That's not always the case. Now, that
can be the case. Have I seen it? Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
It can be a distraction.
It can be a distraction. But I don't
think that played a factor. I'm assuming they've probably
been, they haven't been together
for a while, especially for her to be moving
on like that in public. What you mean moving on?
What am I supposed to do, wait?
I mean, you know what I'm trying to say. I know what you
saying. I know what you saying. Yeah.
It's been done.
We just catching wind up because
she's just going in public now.
She's not yours. It's just your turn. I mean, that's
the thing. I mean, is there a time limit on joe
you break up you break up with some you break up with somebody is there the time limit in which
you could go public with another person no no i i don't think it's the time limit but i i think
nah you need to know you hurt because if you if you right away oh you ain't love me anyway oh
listen i forget about love forget about love if she if you right away, you ain't love me anyway. Oh, listen, forget about love.
Forget about love.
If she moves on right away, she was already talking to that individual, you know, planting that seed while y'all was still together.
That's why the transition and moving on was so easy.
Because for one, she was already mentally checked out anyway.
And she moves on and moves on fast.
That person was already in play anyway.
And if he's smart, you have a better understanding anyway. And she moves on and moves on fast, that person was already in play anyway. And if he's smart, you have a better understanding
anyway. If she's willing to deal with you
while you're with me, at some point
as time goes on, then you're going to
get the same treatment too.
So it's a cycle. The cycle
never ends.
My grandpa used to say, boy, if they cheat with you, they'll
cheat on you.
Don't let that go over your head, Chad.
Listen. Oh, Chad.
Listen.
Oh, Cho.
Oh, Cho.
Oh, Cho.
I'll just.
Listen, I've said it before myself.
I've said it before myself.
Whatever they're willing to do with you when they're not yours, they will do to you when they belong to you. Oh, man.
That was easy.
And the cycle will continue to repeat itself
over and over and over
and over, no matter what.
Hey, you say they do
what they do for you, and you know, they knew.
Because you say all of a sudden
women start working out.
Red Boy said,
boy, she get ready for somebody else to see her naked.
Hey, that's when you just slumped out of that trip like real.
Yeah.
That's the wonderful thing in what we call life.
And one thing about human nature,
one thing about human nature,
human nature is undefeated.
It is, Ocho. It is.
Undefeated.
Undefeated. You can post as many quotes as you want you can say everything
they be killing me with that Ocho
and don't live by
they quit God
God in my life
God child
what
don't live by a damn bit of it
yeah
they got a hand on the Bible beating her back in What? Don't live by a damn bit of it. Yeah.
They got a hand on the Bible and dude beating her back in.
But she God child.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
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He's him. H.I.M m he's him yeah he is he is 21 of 23 254 yards
two touchdowns zero turnovers 91 completion percentage he goes on the road in a hostile
environment against the big and they we know the bingo the crowd is
going to be raucous they're owing two they don't want to go down owing three it's very very hard
to make the playoffs going down o to three because guess what in order for you to get back to 500
you got to win your next three games that gets you back at 500 you have have a slip-up, you could easily be one and five or two and four.
Matter of fact, not to make matters worse,
huh? Ask, ask.
I'm not even going to say it. Ask, ask who we play
next. Watch this.
Ask, ask who the Bengals play next.
Don't y'all got Baltimore? Nah, Baltimore.
Who they got next?
Oh, y'all got the
Panthers. That's a win for the Panthers. I got the Panthers.
That's a win for the Panthers.
I got the Panthers.
That's easy. That's easy to do.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't – who you got?
Panther circle, y'all on the schedule.
Listen, I'm going to that game.
Back to this game.
Listen, Jaden Daniels was phenomenal.
Jaden Daniels at phenomenal. Jaden Daniels
at the quarterback position played
phenomenal tonight. Listen,
the franchise, the commander franchise,
they got them one. They got them
a 10-12 year
franchise quarterback
and we got a small
sample size of it at LSU.
I didn't expect them to come in
this early as a rookie.
And this is the question I'm going to ask you, as a rookie,
and look this good this early.
And my question to you, Anki, is what you might have a better way
of answering, why is it that some rookies can come in their rookie year
and look the par, to look like they've been before, the C.J. Strouds,
the Jaden Daniels.
And then you have other rookies that don't look the par.
They struggle.
They don't do well.
That's with any position.
Some wide receivers come in and you get a Randy Moss or you get a Puka Nakua or you get a Justin Jefferson.
And then sometimes, guys, it takes a little longer.
Everybody doesn't mature.
Some people reach maturity at 18. Some guys, it takes a little longer. Everybody doesn't mature. Some people reach maturity at 18.
Some people,
it takes them 21.
Some people take some 25.
Some people never damn mature.
But you do.
It all depends on look,
the one thing we know about Cliff Kingsbury,
he can go some quarterbacks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He and Lincoln Riley can coach quarterbacks.
Now we can,
you can say what you want to say about them as head coaches,
but when it comes to running an offense,
when it comes to putting a quarterback
and taking what he does really well and accentuating that
and putting him in the most positive position
so he can have success,
it's hard to say somebody is better than those two.
Now, Sarkeesian might have something to say about that
because we know what he's done with quarterbacks in his tenure
as an OC and a head coach.
But that's the one thing Cliff Kingsbury, Lincoln Riley can do.
They can coach the quarterback position.
And he has a quarterback, processes information very well.
He sees the field very well.
He had Terry McLaurin earlier on a seven route,
and he threw it out of bounds.
100% of the balls that land out of bounds, they're incomplete.
But you say what he did on that next one, he put it up under duress,
gave McLaurin an opportunity.
Keep him in bounds.
In the breadbasket.
And McLaurin did a great job of holding on to it.
Ultra, this young man, I mean, the moment is not too big.
You saw what he did at LSU last year.
He won the Heisman Trophy. He was
sensational. Dual threat quarterback.
But the thing that I love
most about him, he's not relying on his legs.
He will only run if it's
absolutely necessary.
This was supposed to be
marquee year for the Dolphins.
So far, it's turned into a night where, as it stands,
Tua will not be able to practice and play until week eight at the earliest.
And even that might be a hopeful timeline.
While the schedule is extremely favorable until that time,
they get the Titans, Patriots, Colts, and Cardinals.
It's tough to favor Miami in any of them based on their quarterback situation.
Listen, brother, Skylar Thompson is hurt.
Tyler Huntley is stepping in.
Tyler Huntley has played some good football when he was with the Ravens.
I think he can bring a little bit of excitement.
It's a different type of offense, though.
That was a run-based offense.
You know what?
You know what I think from a passing standpoint?
I think he'll be a little bit better than Skyler Thompson.
And being able to get that goddamn ball to Waddle.
Being able to get that ball to Cheeser.
Being able to get that ball to...
Yeah, I think we're going to be all right in that.
Got a nice little quarterback.
He can pull it down and run with it when he need to.
Check this out.
It might not be as bad as you think.
If he can get in the boards about maybe
the 2-2.
What? It's bad.
So you don't believe
in Tyler Hunter? It's bad.
Right.
No, it's not as bad as you may think it is.
I think it's worse. I'm not saying
that we bringing in Lamar Jackson.
I ain't calling him Lamar Jackson, but, man, he can play some ball.
You know Huntley was a free agent at one time, right?
A free agent, which means any other 32 other teams.
Sometimes they do that to you.
You know that, huh?
Any other team could have signed him.
Oh, it's your stop.
Not if you're a quarterback.
They might do that to some other positions.
Not that position.
Because it's too valuable.
It's too valuable a plot of land.
I'm going to say something, but I ain't going to say it.
I don't even feel like being controversial.
But don't worry about it.
I'm going to let that one go.
I think the thing is
is that look
there are Ryan Tannehill's available
Cam Newton is available I don't
know if Cam really wants to play or
if he's in shape to play football
Desmond Ritter who
possible trade targets right to go
where Russell Wilson Carson
wins
to Miami
Bryce Young and two on the same team Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz. To Miami.
Bryce Young and Tua on the same team?
I'm wondering why they...
I mean, what other quarterbacks are out there that are familiar with that offense?
I like Tannehill.
Tannehill would have been nice
Carson Wentz
Carson Wentz ran
a variance of it
under Doug Peterson
Doug Peterson learned from Andy Reid
got a West Coast system
from Coach Parcells, Mike
Holmgren so it's a
it's a offshoot
of it it's not it's not like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Mike McDaniel.
All those guys. Really? Yeah. But it's an offshoot of it.
Or they could tank and get the number one pick. Hey, I mean, you know how difficult it is to talk.
And you might get and you might get Travis Hunter.
Oh, okay.
Wait, Jacksonville?
No, Miami.
Oh, no.
I'm thinking about the quarterback situation because I'm thinking about being a bust.
I hate using that word.
I hate using that word for that position.
Especially when you go as high as number one.
To Miami.
Shadur.
Man, that's...
No, that's impossible.
You just pay Tua.
That's impossible.
Damn, man.
I mean... I mean, sometimes people build a new house and sell it.
No, not really.
Sometimes people build a new house and sell it.
Not really.
I've never heard of that one.
If you build something, you're going to be there longer than three or five years.
Oh, yeah.
Are you trying?
No, I'm looking to flip.
That's a good one maybe they go get Joe Flacco
now that's a good move
you talk about you want to add a spark to your offense
and not miss a beat or a step
you go get you a Joe Flacco
but
yeah you do
Joe push it down the field
now he got an arm
He ain't gonna move now
The Statue of Liberty
Has moved more than Joe Flacco
In the last 175 years
Yeah, I got you
Okay, one thing
But anyway, you get where I'm going
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Yeah.
It's time for Rough Draft.
Oh, you're going to lose again.
Today's prop is best NFL rookie season.
Woo-hoo!
I'm up first. Let's do the cut. Let's do
the promo. Let's do the graphics.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I like this.
I like this.
Yeah, I got this one.
You finna lose. You ain't won in like
three weeks. Why you going first? Because you went first last time. That's why I'm going got this one. My first one. You finna lose. You finna lose. You ain't won in like three weeks. Why are you going first?
Because you went first last time.
That's why I'm going first this time.
All right.
Go ahead.
All right.
First up for me, I'm taking Eric Dickerson.
His rookie season, he rushed for 1,800 yards.
Okay.
Was rookie of the year.
And later, we know what he did.
Next season, he ran for 21 on five.
So I got Eric Dickerson up first.
Okay, my first one, a lot of people,
especially unless you're a defensive person,
you might not like this,
but if you watched him play back during his day,
especially when he was in college,
I'm going with Javon Curtis, his rookie year.
Okay.
For me, I'm taking Randy Moss.
If you saw his rookie season, Randy Moss was, hey, he was Moss.
He was the real deal. He was the real deal. Well, you know what? Speaking of receivers, I'm going to piggyback off what you just said.
And I'm going with another receiver who had a hell of a goddamn rookie season. And his name is Jamar, Jamar Nathaniel Chase.
All right. You like him? You know who I'm going with? I'm going number three.
I'm going C.J. Stroud.
You know what?
That was historic.
That was a historic season.
That was a historic season.
But it wasn't one.
You want to give up now or later?
Oh, you're going to lose it.
The next one, listen, arguably maybe one of the greatest running backs of all time.
And Barry Sanders.
Yeah, that Barry Sanders, the one he played in Detroit.
They called it Motown at
Ford Field.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good one, Ocho.
Yeah.
Let me see. Yeah, come on now.
You're going to lose this.
You know who I'm going with? Who's that?
Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was
Defensive Player of the Year and R rookie of the year in his rookie season.
It's over.
Chad, tell him to go home.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Listen, you think about Lawrence Taylor in his totality.
We talk about his rookie year.
His rookie year, he only had nine.
His rookie year.
He only had nine and a half sacks.
He only had nine and a half sacks.
You do realize the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982.
Listen.
He came into the league in 1981.
He was defensive player of the year and rookie, defensive rookie of the year.
How many guys have ever done that?
Listen.
He only had nine and a half sacks.
And I'm going to piggyback off of you.
I'm going to go to defensive player too.
I'm going to go to defensive player.
And his rookie year was also phenomenal.
He had 36 solo tackles with
nine sacks. Maybe
the greatest defensive tackle of all time
who just happened to retire in Aaron Donald.
What you talking about?
I like that. It's over, Ocho.
It's over for you.
You know what? I might give you a chance
to come back, but I ain't
gonna.
Who you got?
I'm gonna go way, way,
way, way back.
You know what? How far back?
I ain't gonna go that far back.
I'm gonna let him be my honorable mention.
Yeah.
You know who I'm gonna go with, don't you?
He just had it last year.
Puka Nakua.
Ooh, okay, that's a good one.
Okay, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
I can't even argue that because he was on fire last year.
So this is my honorable mention right now, right?
Yep.
No, you got five.
This is number five for you.
Okay, number five.
Um, I think.
I done went defense twice.
Matter of fact, you know what?
I'm going to go Cam Newton.
I'm going to go Cam Newton.
Rookie year.
4,000 plus yards, 21 TDs, 700 yards on the ground.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going Cam Newton.
Rookie year.
That's my fit.
Okay.
Yeah, you definitely lost this rough draft this time.
Oh, no.
It ain't even close.
Trust me.
The chat, listen, the chat,
it's one thing about them.
They don't lie.
And they will tell you,
I lost this rough draft.
Man, look here.
Where do I want to go?
You know who I like had an unbelievable rookie season, Ocho?
Who's that?
Do I want to go quarterback?
Do I want to go running back?
You can go Dak.
Dak had a crazy rookie season.
Well, you should have picked him.
No, I'm just saying.
You stuck.
I'm just giving you an option.
Nah.
Hey, you know what?
I might even put my rookie season on a mention.
I got Eric Dixon, Randall Ball, L.T., and Puka Nakua.
That's a nice little lineup.
It ain't better than mine, though.
Oh, it's way better than yours,
don't you?
I ain't saying yours is some stir fry,
but I'm just saying it ain't good.
Hold on.
Oh, I got to take my... Rest, rest his soul, Reggie White.
Woo!
That's a good one.
If y'all didn't get an opportunity to see this man play and see him up close and personal, because I saw him in his prime.
Yeah.
I'm talking about at his absolute apex.
Yeah.
I saw him with the Eagles in 92.
I saw him in 93. I saw him with the Eagles in 92. I saw him in 93.
I saw him in 96.
And I saw him in the Super Bowl.
So I'm talking about at his absolute apex.
I'm taking Reggie.
I like that. That's it.
Can't even argue that.
Go ahead.
Damn, that was a good one, boy.
That Ritchie one kind of knocked it out the box, boy.
But I had a Shohei Otani. You way before I got the regular.
Right, right. Oh, shoot. I did Cam,
Aaron Donald. I got Barry, J. Oh, shoot. I did Cam, Aaron Donald.
I got Barry, Javon Kirst.
You don't
want Justin Jefferson? You don't want
Dak? Saquon Barkley?
Odell? Nah, hold on, hold on.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
I'm looking for, you know,
I'm looking for another iconic figure.
The kind of... I I give you one.
I'll let you take Gale Sayers.
You know what?
The Kansas Con.
You know what?
I got one of them from LSU.
I'm going to go with Jesse Jefferson as my honorable mention.
Okay, I told you that.
And you know who I'm going to go with?
My last honorable mention pick,
Kurt Warner.
His rookie year?
Yep.
When he came from the CFL?
Yep.
He was all right.
He was all right.
He was all right.
He was all right.
He was all right. Listen, all right. You was all right.
Listen, I won.
I won that list too.
Hey.
Man, you look at my stuff, man.
Look at this, man.
Look at this.
ED rushed for 1,800 yards as a rookie, Ochoa.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, that was like the fourth or fifth most yards ever.
I don't think we're ever going to see a rookie rush for more than that, Ocho,
because they don't run the ball.
No, they don't run it enough.
They don't run the ball.
Because you know how many carry?
First of all, even if you get six yards of carry,
you're going to have to carry the ball at least 300 times.
Yeah.
If you average five yards of carry right you're gonna have to carry the ball at least 300 times yeah if you average four if you average five yards of carry now you're gonna be looking at 350 carries now you're starting to get to that point of no return right but you start getting to that 370
380 390 400 that's the point of no return only eric dickerson had been able to go to that number
and return safely you go back and look at the guys that got 390 look at james wilder look at
terrell davis look at uh uh the dirt mr uh jamal anderson look at eddie jordan look at the guys
that get those go back and study those once they hit that number and see what their
career happened after that so that's why i don't think we're gonna see it again and ed did it he
did it in in in in in in 83 which was his rookie year because he came in that great draft class
with uh marino and elway and kelly richard dent was in that in that. Bruce Matthews was in that draft class.
Daryl Green was in that draft class.
They had like seven Hall of Famers.
And back then, I don't think there were only 28 teams.
So a core damn near, you know, was crazy.
But so who's your Hall of Fame?
Who's your Hall of Fame number two?
My Hall of Fame and number two?
I mean the Hall of Fame.
I mean your honorable mention.
You want another one?
Yeah.
Rookie year.
Ooh.
Let's go. Let's go, Mike. I'm going'm gonna go i'm gonna go yeah you know even though even though they're getting on my boy for doing too much talking
i'm gonna go michael parsons michael parsons rookie at 13 sacks 84 tackles
64 solo tackles 20 tackles for loss. Yeah. You know what?
Can I take Kurt Warner off?
Nah, nah, nah, nah, no.
You got Kurt Warner there, so that's how I know I'm going to win this.
No, it's over for you.
I mean, it ain't even close.
If I don't win this 90 to 10, I don't know what's going on.
Trust me, you're not. 66 to 34, Ocho't know what's going on. Trust me, you're not.
66 to 34, Ocho. Who win it?
Me.
Well, it's about time. You done lost the last
five rough drafts we done played.
I mean, think about it.
I've got, AD was rookie of the year.
Randy was rookie of the year.
CJ was rookie of the year.
LT was rookie of the year. Reggie White
was rookie of the year. I was rookie of the year. Reggie White was rookie of the year.
I got – I let you have this.
I got defensive player of the year.
Man, I got like LT was rookie of the year.
I got one, two, three, four.
I got five rookie of the year.
I mean, listen, I let you have this one.
I felt bad for you. All the time.
I've won the past one, two, three, the past four rough drafts.
So, I mean, it's about time you got your one.
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