Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bryce Young trade interest, Jayden Daniels cooks Bengals, Trouble for Tua

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocino" Johnson recap a wild Week 3 of the NFL season. Top stories include teams interested in Bryce Young trade with Carolina Panthers, Washington Commanders rookie QB Jayd...en Daniels phenomenal performance on the road against Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football, Tua Tagovailoa not returning to the Miami Dolphins until Week 8 at the earliest and much more!03:18 - Colts vs Bears09:42 - Baker Mayfield said Tom Brady was the source of an intense locker room environment17:19 - Several teams have expressed interest in trading for Bryce Young24:10 - Jayden Daniels is him28:15 - Dolphins season taking a downturn; as it stands Tua won’t be able to return to practice/playing until week 834:50 - Rough Draft: Best NFL Rookie Season(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:56 terms, and responsible gaming resources. Coach D. Shine as they beat the bears the defense held chicago to 63 yards rushing four sacks three turnovers the coach gave up nearly 500 rushing yards to the first two opponents yet the bears attempted 52 passes i don't know why chicago had 247 yards in the first half it was shut out in the second uh in the shutout at the half after four straight runs and shotgun in the first half. It was shut out in the second. And shut out at the half after four straight runs. And shotgun in the four-yard line and didn't yield a touchdown. This game featured two of the youngest quarterbacks in NFL, Richardson and Williams. Caleb Williams responded late.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Touchdown throw to Roma Dunzey. And Cole Komet, his first two NFL passing touchdowns. Boy, they got a lot to learn. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't miss, this is the only game I couldn't see. Ocho, they got a lot to learn. They still, it's hard. They, Richardson
Starting point is 00:04:56 is still trying, both of them are still trying to make throws that they made in college, and I keep telling them. They got the arm. They got the arm to do it, though. No, they don't. You can't make them throws, Ocho. You're not finna roll one way
Starting point is 00:05:10 and throw back across the field. Two picks. I don't know what... His Richardson first interception in the end zone, even if the ball wasn't tipped, it was gonna get picked. He got three...
Starting point is 00:05:21 Dude, round the guy. And then he rolls and tries to throw back across the field. The same thing with Caleb Williams. Bro, you're not getting away with those throws in this league. The guys are too good. This is not you. You're not playing Louisiana Monroe.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You're not playing the FCF team. These guys are the best of the best. They make you pay for mistakes. So stop putting your team in harm's way. I think Anthony Richardson would be good, but he's got to stop making these mistakes and he's got to learn some touch.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Bro, I mean, sometimes he's throwing the ball, the guy from me to this wall, and he's throwing it like he's throwing it in a hurricane. Bro, some touch. Yeah. And Caleb, you 52 times? Come on, bro. Come on, y'all doing.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I wish. I wish I was playing in the offense when he threw the ball 52 times. I wish. Because that's a receiver's dream. You know how many? Listen, some teams only ran 65 plays. Sometimes you only run 65 plays and 52 of those are in the air. Yeah, but that means you're going to probably lose.
Starting point is 00:06:29 If you throw the ball that many times, you're probably going to lose. It ain't going to be very many times now. It ain't going to be very many times that you win a game when you throw the ball that much. You're behind. You're probably behind. And you're probably going to lose the game. Now, if you want some stats, those are great.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But you're not winning 52 times. What if you throw it 52 times and you win in the game? What if you throw it 52 times and you're efficient? What if you throw it 52 times and the quarterback is 48 for 52? Yeah, but Ocho, what are the like? Normally, when you throw that many times, what are you? You're behind. And teams will let you do that so times what are you? You're behind. And teams will let
Starting point is 00:07:06 you do that so they don't give up anything cheap or deep. Right. Just keep them in front of us. Yeah. I mean, I just some of the guys and they just, I'm going to show you. I just want to know because Andrew Richardson said that the college was harder
Starting point is 00:07:21 than the NFL. I want to know if he still feels that way. Wait, he said it last year. Wait, he said it last year. No, he said it this year. Before he got hurt. He said it this year. Oh, he said it this year? I don't really think he meant that, though.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I don't know if he meant it or not. He would just be, he would probably be. If a girl called you ugly, oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, you ugly, oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah, but you gotta listen. You know, a girl call you ugly, sometimes she flirting, and she really don't mean that. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:53 sometimes she said to keep you humble. No, don't keep me humble. My grandma called me ugly all my life, growing up. I'm gonna take your word for it. I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self. Okay. They don't try to convince nobody. Did you mean that? You remember the other day you said I was ugly. Did you mean it?
Starting point is 00:08:15 No, you said I'm good. I'm going to keep it moving. You can't take it personally. I ain't taking it personally. What I look like trying to say is somebody going to call me ugly and they think I'm fit to be with... What I look like trying to get somebody to go call me ugly and they think I'm going to be with them. I mean... Come on. Ocho,
Starting point is 00:08:34 we grown. You do that in the fourth grade when you were in elementary school. You got a crush on somebody. You hit them with your ugly self. You make me sick. We grown now. We don't play no type of games. That means she really like you. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I mean, she at real call me ugly sometimes. Was she mad at you? Yeah. Exactly. When are women the most honest? When they what?
Starting point is 00:09:04 When they're angry. When they what? Thank you. Maybe I am. Listen, I'm not the top ten in the world. I'm not strong six and a half, especially with a haircut. If I get a haircut,
Starting point is 00:09:20 oh, long as I'm above five, I'm straight. Now, when I ain't got no haircut and I ain't been on the waist, I'm above five, I'm straight. Now, when I ain't got no haircut and, you know, I ain't been on the waist, I'm a strong girl. I mean, look. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what you like. I'm looking for, like you said, I'm trying to be a strong 6'7". A 7'?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, I mean, you say if you want your girl girl you wouldn't want your you want you so i mean you say what what would you say rails what nine ten a nine not real real she probably i get i give seven and a half she is hey rail you heard nah she ain't there meisa ain't there listen my dog man she about a 10 I out kicked McCurdy though you did and the only reason she probably listen the only reason she with me is
Starting point is 00:10:17 I won because of my personality that's it I'm just being honest cause you know what they say if you can make a woman laugh you can laugh I ain't gonna say it you know what I'm just being honest because you know what they say, if you can make a woman laugh you can laugh I ain't going to say it, you know what I'm trying to say I get what you're saying Baker Mayfield said Tom Brady intensity
Starting point is 00:10:32 led to a stressed locker room, the building was a little different when Tom was here, obviously playing wise, Tom is different, he had everybody dialed in, high strung environment so I think everybody was pretty stressed out, they wanted, they wanted me to come in and be myself,
Starting point is 00:10:48 bring the joy back to the football for our guys who weren't having much fun. Baker said, Brady had a very, very different person. He and Brady have very different personalities. Brady would play mind games that included unseen battle between quarterback and play caller. You hear some of the stories about it didn't play a certain call. if a certain play was called and he didn't like it throughout the week and they still called to play in the game there might have been a throw away on purpose or throwing it at the running back or the receiver's feet there's a lot of mind games going on you got a problem with baker
Starting point is 00:11:20 airing out uh secrets i mean no not. I mean, those aren't bad secrets. If you understand what it takes to win and based on Tom's resume and what he's done in the past, it obviously works for him. He went from New England and went to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year there. So obviously the secrets that he is letting out and exposing is a good thing. Now, it might not work for Baker, but it worked for Tom. And there's a reason why they got a goddamn Lombardi because of those secrets that he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You mean to tell me like highly successful people want things a certain way and they expect it to be that way. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Okay. Definitely. Especially those that know what it takes to win.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah. But to each his own. Well, you should know. You play with him. This ain't no surprise to you. Yeah, I play with him. Yeah, and also the funny thing about it is the New England time Brady and the Tampa Bay time Brady,
Starting point is 00:12:31 you got to see his personality. You got to see the fun side of Brady. You got to see Brady on social media. You got to see Brady, the content creator, man. Some of those videos were creative and you got to see a different side of him. That was more fun. It was more relatable. Even if you didn't play the game of football look i understand i understand um that's how mike what look mike i think the thing is like like mike allowed us to have fun but we knew when it was time to work it was time to work i made sure because i like the privileges that we had he he let us be loose but it was my responsibility to make sure that when we showed up to practice, we showed up to walk through, except that one day they came out there with flip flops and
Starting point is 00:13:10 Tim's on and walked through. Mike said, that ish won't ever happen again. I said, see, you can't let us have nothing. I said, y'all know better. Y'all know how my deal is. We're going to take it too far every time. I said, y'all know, Bill. Y'all know how my idea is.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We're going to take it too far every time. Me, look, that's Baker told that. I wouldn't have told it. I'm not surprised that Tom was wired like this. You don't win that much by accident. Things have to be because that's what he's used to. Where did he come from? People that were in the military,
Starting point is 00:13:53 they normally have a very strict household because they're used to structure. Make your bed, put your shoes up, take your shoes off, put them dishes up. Don't leave dishes in the sink. Put that trash away. Take that trash out. That's how my grandfather was So that structure I thrive in structure
Starting point is 00:14:12 now I Come home and stuff without without a whack Why I just need to know why? Because I don't know when it only one that's left for work. Right. Yeah, you see how you're looking? Yeah, that's the look. That's the look.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Now you see. Right. It's got to be a certain way. I work well with structure. I work well with discipline. But I don't believe, you know, look, people love Tom. I don't think anybody's surprised by this. When you win like he's won, you see him on the sideline when things are not going his way.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Guys dropping passes or things, if they're not in sync. Right. So I'm not surprised one bit by this. I'm not, I'm not surprised at all. Yeah, it's not a bad thing either. It's not a bad thing. I think if we were talking about something that wasn't successful that they were doing and still had that same approach to it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I don't see our situation that you can be like that because ain't nobody going to listen to you if you're not successful. Nobody gives a D. Bingo. So you've got to have a level of success coach belichick had he not won early in new england you think they're gonna listen to him and let him let him get away with what he got away with absolutely not absolutely absolutely not and the same thing with tom because tom had won so much hey what do got to lose? We ain't won jack in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:15:46 There we go. Why not? That's why if you win, guys will follow you. It's easier to get people to follow you when you're winning as opposed to when you're losing. They're like, because, Ocho, you know this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:01 we lose a couple of games. Hey, stop sitting on your helmet. Oh, so that's why couple of games. Hey, stop sitting on your helmet. Oh, so that's why we lost the game because I'm sitting on my helmet now. Oh, pick up the trash. The team knew we had a dirty locker room. Oh, they got a dirty locker room. We're going to run through them. Come on, man.
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Starting point is 00:22:31 I like to see him. I like to see a change of scenery. I like to see a change of scenery. Where he goes is very important. I'm not sure if he'll be a starter, but maybe due to injury, based on where he goes, if a starting quarterback goes down and he's able to get in there um with the an adequate offense with a good supporting cast then we can get to see the Bryce Young that we're used to seeing when he was at Alabama and it's unfortunate that it
Starting point is 00:22:57 came to this and I think the benching is so early and only a second year because of the impatience of Dave of Mr. Tepper. And Dave Kanellis knows that, knows that very well. You know, the fire Frank Wright, Frank Wright 11 games in, in the season, because things weren't going well. Mr. Kanellis knows that as well. He knows his leash is short if they don't continue to win. And he just felt that they couldn't win Bryce Young at the time.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And he's going to learn. I don't think much is going to change with Andy Dalton at the helm, too. No, you already – again, Andy Dalton – if Andy Dalton is the answer, I need to know the question you're asking. Second of all, though, Joe, do you realize how far you would have set this organization back? Because if you miss that, you miss on that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Now, you're probably not going to be in a position to draft another one. And if you do, then what? If you don't surround – if you draft another quarterback and you don't surround him with anything, the same thing is going to happen to that quarterback that happened to this one. Right to square one. And it's probably going to keep happening until they draft right.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And I'm not going to look. The way he treated Steve Wilks after he turned that program around with Matt Rule and you didn't even give him a... I don't wish bad. I'm just like my grandma used to say, boy, I don't wish bad on nobody, but I sure don't wish good on either.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So I'm not saying I wish bad, but I don't wish prosperity either. I just think he's handled some situations very poorly. I think Steve Wilks deserves an opportunity to get that job, and hopefully another opportunity presents itself for Steve. But that was a very – I mean, he doesn't have patience. I don't know how he thought he was going to be a great owner without patience. Because you got to have that, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You got to have it. That's rule number one. That's rule number one in business in general. Forget owning a team, being an entrepreneur, running a business. And now we talk about the NFL. Like, you can't use money and buy your way
Starting point is 00:25:04 into winning. It takes time. It takes time. And then, you know, they show the situation I think his ex is dating Tyrese Max. I think that's on his mind. You see what I said, Ocho? You see? You think so? If you keep your stuff private,
Starting point is 00:25:19 if you keep your stuff private, you can break up in private. Yeah. If you date publicly, you're going to have to break up publicly. And then everybody's going to start speculating. That's why he's playing bad. That may or may not be the case. But I see guys, they have no girlfriend and play like crap. Guys be married and play terrible.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I mean, we got to stop automatically assume because somebody's playing bad, there's something going on in their lives that's leading them to play bad. That's not always the case. Now, that can be the case. Have I seen it? Yes. Yeah, yeah. It can be a distraction. It can be a distraction. But I don't
Starting point is 00:26:00 think that played a factor. I'm assuming they've probably been, they haven't been together for a while, especially for her to be moving on like that in public. What you mean moving on? What am I supposed to do, wait? I mean, you know what I'm trying to say. I know what you saying. I know what you saying. Yeah. It's been done.
Starting point is 00:26:16 We just catching wind up because she's just going in public now. She's not yours. It's just your turn. I mean, that's the thing. I mean, is there a time limit on joe you break up you break up with some you break up with somebody is there the time limit in which you could go public with another person no no i i don't think it's the time limit but i i think nah you need to know you hurt because if you if you right away oh you ain't love me anyway oh listen i forget about love forget about love if she if you right away, you ain't love me anyway. Oh, listen, forget about love.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Forget about love. If she moves on right away, she was already talking to that individual, you know, planting that seed while y'all was still together. That's why the transition and moving on was so easy. Because for one, she was already mentally checked out anyway. And she moves on and moves on fast. That person was already in play anyway. And if he's smart, you have a better understanding anyway. And she moves on and moves on fast, that person was already in play anyway. And if he's smart, you have a better understanding anyway. If she's willing to deal with you
Starting point is 00:27:10 while you're with me, at some point as time goes on, then you're going to get the same treatment too. So it's a cycle. The cycle never ends. My grandpa used to say, boy, if they cheat with you, they'll cheat on you. Don't let that go over your head, Chad.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Listen. Oh, Chad. Listen. Oh, Cho. Oh, Cho. Oh, Cho. I'll just. Listen, I've said it before myself. I've said it before myself.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Whatever they're willing to do with you when they're not yours, they will do to you when they belong to you. Oh, man. That was easy. And the cycle will continue to repeat itself over and over and over and over, no matter what. Hey, you say they do what they do for you, and you know, they knew. Because you say all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:27:56 women start working out. Red Boy said, boy, she get ready for somebody else to see her naked. Hey, that's when you just slumped out of that trip like real. Yeah. That's the wonderful thing in what we call life. And one thing about human nature, one thing about human nature,
Starting point is 00:28:20 human nature is undefeated. It is, Ocho. It is. Undefeated. Undefeated. You can post as many quotes as you want you can say everything they be killing me with that Ocho and don't live by they quit God God in my life
Starting point is 00:28:38 God child what don't live by a damn bit of it yeah they got a hand on the Bible beating her back in What? Don't live by a damn bit of it. Yeah. They got a hand on the Bible and dude beating her back in. But she God child. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, okay. Jaden Daniels is Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. He's the gospel. He's him. H.I.M m he's him yeah he is he is 21 of 23 254 yards two touchdowns zero turnovers 91 completion percentage he goes on the road in a hostile environment against the big and they we know the bingo the crowd is going to be raucous they're owing two they don't want to go down owing three it's very very hard
Starting point is 00:29:32 to make the playoffs going down o to three because guess what in order for you to get back to 500 you got to win your next three games that gets you back at 500 you have have a slip-up, you could easily be one and five or two and four. Matter of fact, not to make matters worse, huh? Ask, ask. I'm not even going to say it. Ask, ask who we play next. Watch this. Ask, ask who the Bengals play next. Don't y'all got Baltimore? Nah, Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Who they got next? Oh, y'all got the Panthers. That's a win for the Panthers. I got the Panthers. That's a win for the Panthers. I got the Panthers. That's easy. That's easy to do. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't – who you got?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Panther circle, y'all on the schedule. Listen, I'm going to that game. Back to this game. Listen, Jaden Daniels was phenomenal. Jaden Daniels at phenomenal. Jaden Daniels at the quarterback position played phenomenal tonight. Listen, the franchise, the commander franchise,
Starting point is 00:30:32 they got them one. They got them a 10-12 year franchise quarterback and we got a small sample size of it at LSU. I didn't expect them to come in this early as a rookie. And this is the question I'm going to ask you, as a rookie,
Starting point is 00:30:48 and look this good this early. And my question to you, Anki, is what you might have a better way of answering, why is it that some rookies can come in their rookie year and look the par, to look like they've been before, the C.J. Strouds, the Jaden Daniels. And then you have other rookies that don't look the par. They struggle. They don't do well.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's with any position. Some wide receivers come in and you get a Randy Moss or you get a Puka Nakua or you get a Justin Jefferson. And then sometimes, guys, it takes a little longer. Everybody doesn't mature. Some people reach maturity at 18. Some guys, it takes a little longer. Everybody doesn't mature. Some people reach maturity at 18. Some people, it takes them 21. Some people take some 25.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Some people never damn mature. But you do. It all depends on look, the one thing we know about Cliff Kingsbury, he can go some quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah. He and Lincoln Riley can coach quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Now we can, you can say what you want to say about them as head coaches, but when it comes to running an offense, when it comes to putting a quarterback and taking what he does really well and accentuating that and putting him in the most positive position so he can have success, it's hard to say somebody is better than those two.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Now, Sarkeesian might have something to say about that because we know what he's done with quarterbacks in his tenure as an OC and a head coach. But that's the one thing Cliff Kingsbury, Lincoln Riley can do. They can coach the quarterback position. And he has a quarterback, processes information very well. He sees the field very well. He had Terry McLaurin earlier on a seven route,
Starting point is 00:32:23 and he threw it out of bounds. 100% of the balls that land out of bounds, they're incomplete. But you say what he did on that next one, he put it up under duress, gave McLaurin an opportunity. Keep him in bounds. In the breadbasket. And McLaurin did a great job of holding on to it. Ultra, this young man, I mean, the moment is not too big.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You saw what he did at LSU last year. He won the Heisman Trophy. He was sensational. Dual threat quarterback. But the thing that I love most about him, he's not relying on his legs. He will only run if it's absolutely necessary. This was supposed to be
Starting point is 00:33:02 marquee year for the Dolphins. So far, it's turned into a night where, as it stands, Tua will not be able to practice and play until week eight at the earliest. And even that might be a hopeful timeline. While the schedule is extremely favorable until that time, they get the Titans, Patriots, Colts, and Cardinals. It's tough to favor Miami in any of them based on their quarterback situation. Listen, brother, Skylar Thompson is hurt.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Tyler Huntley is stepping in. Tyler Huntley has played some good football when he was with the Ravens. I think he can bring a little bit of excitement. It's a different type of offense, though. That was a run-based offense. You know what? You know what I think from a passing standpoint? I think he'll be a little bit better than Skyler Thompson.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And being able to get that goddamn ball to Waddle. Being able to get that ball to Cheeser. Being able to get that ball to... Yeah, I think we're going to be all right in that. Got a nice little quarterback. He can pull it down and run with it when he need to. Check this out. It might not be as bad as you think.
Starting point is 00:34:05 If he can get in the boards about maybe the 2-2. What? It's bad. So you don't believe in Tyler Hunter? It's bad. Right. No, it's not as bad as you may think it is. I think it's worse. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:34:24 that we bringing in Lamar Jackson. I ain't calling him Lamar Jackson, but, man, he can play some ball. You know Huntley was a free agent at one time, right? A free agent, which means any other 32 other teams. Sometimes they do that to you. You know that, huh? Any other team could have signed him. Oh, it's your stop.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Not if you're a quarterback. They might do that to some other positions. Not that position. Because it's too valuable. It's too valuable a plot of land. I'm going to say something, but I ain't going to say it. I don't even feel like being controversial. But don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm going to let that one go. I think the thing is is that look there are Ryan Tannehill's available Cam Newton is available I don't know if Cam really wants to play or if he's in shape to play football Desmond Ritter who
Starting point is 00:35:17 possible trade targets right to go where Russell Wilson Carson wins to Miami Bryce Young and two on the same team Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz. To Miami. Bryce Young and Tua on the same team? I'm wondering why they... I mean, what other quarterbacks are out there that are familiar with that offense?
Starting point is 00:35:42 I like Tannehill. Tannehill would have been nice Carson Wentz Carson Wentz ran a variance of it under Doug Peterson Doug Peterson learned from Andy Reid got a West Coast system
Starting point is 00:35:58 from Coach Parcells, Mike Holmgren so it's a it's a offshoot of it it's not it's not like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Mike McDaniel. All those guys. Really? Yeah. But it's an offshoot of it. Or they could tank and get the number one pick. Hey, I mean, you know how difficult it is to talk. And you might get and you might get Travis Hunter. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Wait, Jacksonville? No, Miami. Oh, no. I'm thinking about the quarterback situation because I'm thinking about being a bust. I hate using that word. I hate using that word for that position. Especially when you go as high as number one. To Miami.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Shadur. Man, that's... No, that's impossible. You just pay Tua. That's impossible. Damn, man. I mean... I mean, sometimes people build a new house and sell it. No, not really.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Sometimes people build a new house and sell it. Not really. I've never heard of that one. If you build something, you're going to be there longer than three or five years. Oh, yeah. Are you trying? No, I'm looking to flip. That's a good one maybe they go get Joe Flacco
Starting point is 00:37:31 now that's a good move you talk about you want to add a spark to your offense and not miss a beat or a step you go get you a Joe Flacco but yeah you do Joe push it down the field now he got an arm
Starting point is 00:37:46 He ain't gonna move now The Statue of Liberty Has moved more than Joe Flacco In the last 175 years Yeah, I got you Okay, one thing But anyway, you get where I'm going Made for This Mountain
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Starting point is 00:43:43 Woo-hoo! I'm up first. Let's do the cut. Let's do the promo. Let's do the graphics. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I like this. I like this. Yeah, I got this one. You finna lose. You ain't won in like
Starting point is 00:44:04 three weeks. Why you going first? Because you went first last time. That's why I'm going got this one. My first one. You finna lose. You finna lose. You ain't won in like three weeks. Why are you going first? Because you went first last time. That's why I'm going first this time. All right. Go ahead. All right. First up for me, I'm taking Eric Dickerson. His rookie season, he rushed for 1,800 yards.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Okay. Was rookie of the year. And later, we know what he did. Next season, he ran for 21 on five. So I got Eric Dickerson up first. Okay, my first one, a lot of people, especially unless you're a defensive person, you might not like this,
Starting point is 00:44:31 but if you watched him play back during his day, especially when he was in college, I'm going with Javon Curtis, his rookie year. Okay. For me, I'm taking Randy Moss. If you saw his rookie season, Randy Moss was, hey, he was Moss. He was the real deal. He was the real deal. Well, you know what? Speaking of receivers, I'm going to piggyback off what you just said. And I'm going with another receiver who had a hell of a goddamn rookie season. And his name is Jamar, Jamar Nathaniel Chase.
Starting point is 00:45:02 All right. You like him? You know who I'm going with? I'm going number three. I'm going C.J. Stroud. You know what? That was historic. That was a historic season. That was a historic season. But it wasn't one. You want to give up now or later?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Oh, you're going to lose it. The next one, listen, arguably maybe one of the greatest running backs of all time. And Barry Sanders. Yeah, that Barry Sanders, the one he played in Detroit. They called it Motown at Ford Field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good one, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Let me see. Yeah, come on now. You're going to lose this. You know who I'm going with? Who's that? Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was Defensive Player of the Year and R rookie of the year in his rookie season. It's over. Chad, tell him to go home. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Listen, you think about Lawrence Taylor in his totality. We talk about his rookie year. His rookie year, he only had nine. His rookie year. He only had nine and a half sacks. He only had nine and a half sacks. You do realize the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982. Listen.
Starting point is 00:46:04 He came into the league in 1981. He was defensive player of the year and rookie, defensive rookie of the year. How many guys have ever done that? Listen. He only had nine and a half sacks. And I'm going to piggyback off of you. I'm going to go to defensive player too. I'm going to go to defensive player.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And his rookie year was also phenomenal. He had 36 solo tackles with nine sacks. Maybe the greatest defensive tackle of all time who just happened to retire in Aaron Donald. What you talking about? I like that. It's over, Ocho. It's over for you.
Starting point is 00:46:37 You know what? I might give you a chance to come back, but I ain't gonna. Who you got? I'm gonna go way, way, way, way back. You know what? How far back? I ain't gonna go that far back.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm gonna let him be my honorable mention. Yeah. You know who I'm gonna go with, don't you? He just had it last year. Puka Nakua. Ooh, okay, that's a good one. Okay, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I can't even argue that because he was on fire last year. So this is my honorable mention right now, right? Yep. No, you got five. This is number five for you. Okay, number five. Um, I think. I done went defense twice.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Matter of fact, you know what? I'm going to go Cam Newton. I'm going to go Cam Newton. Rookie year. 4,000 plus yards, 21 TDs, 700 yards on the ground. Yeah, yeah. I'm going Cam Newton. Rookie year.
Starting point is 00:47:53 That's my fit. Okay. Yeah, you definitely lost this rough draft this time. Oh, no. It ain't even close. Trust me. The chat, listen, the chat, it's one thing about them.
Starting point is 00:48:10 They don't lie. And they will tell you, I lost this rough draft. Man, look here. Where do I want to go? You know who I like had an unbelievable rookie season, Ocho? Who's that? Do I want to go quarterback?
Starting point is 00:48:43 Do I want to go running back? You can go Dak. Dak had a crazy rookie season. Well, you should have picked him. No, I'm just saying. You stuck. I'm just giving you an option. Nah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Hey, you know what? I might even put my rookie season on a mention. I got Eric Dixon, Randall Ball, L.T., and Puka Nakua. That's a nice little lineup. It ain't better than mine, though. Oh, it's way better than yours, don't you? I ain't saying yours is some stir fry,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but I'm just saying it ain't good. Hold on. Oh, I got to take my... Rest, rest his soul, Reggie White. Woo! That's a good one. If y'all didn't get an opportunity to see this man play and see him up close and personal, because I saw him in his prime. Yeah. I'm talking about at his absolute apex.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Yeah. I saw him with the Eagles in 92. I saw him in 93. I saw him with the Eagles in 92. I saw him in 93. I saw him in 96. And I saw him in the Super Bowl. So I'm talking about at his absolute apex. I'm taking Reggie. I like that. That's it.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Can't even argue that. Go ahead. Damn, that was a good one, boy. That Ritchie one kind of knocked it out the box, boy. But I had a Shohei Otani. You way before I got the regular. Right, right. Oh, shoot. I did Cam, Aaron Donald. I got Barry, J. Oh, shoot. I did Cam, Aaron Donald. I got Barry, Javon Kirst.
Starting point is 00:50:29 You don't want Justin Jefferson? You don't want Dak? Saquon Barkley? Odell? Nah, hold on, hold on. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm looking for, you know, I'm looking for another iconic figure. The kind of... I I give you one.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I'll let you take Gale Sayers. You know what? The Kansas Con. You know what? I got one of them from LSU. I'm going to go with Jesse Jefferson as my honorable mention. Okay, I told you that. And you know who I'm going to go with?
Starting point is 00:51:06 My last honorable mention pick, Kurt Warner. His rookie year? Yep. When he came from the CFL? Yep. He was all right. He was all right.
Starting point is 00:51:21 He was all right. He was all right. He was all right. Listen, all right. You was all right. Listen, I won. I won that list too. Hey. Man, you look at my stuff, man. Look at this, man.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Look at this. ED rushed for 1,800 yards as a rookie, Ochoa. Yeah. As a matter of fact, that was like the fourth or fifth most yards ever. I don't think we're ever going to see a rookie rush for more than that, Ocho, because they don't run the ball. No, they don't run it enough. They don't run the ball.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Because you know how many carry? First of all, even if you get six yards of carry, you're going to have to carry the ball at least 300 times. Yeah. If you average five yards of carry right you're gonna have to carry the ball at least 300 times yeah if you average four if you average five yards of carry now you're gonna be looking at 350 carries now you're starting to get to that point of no return right but you start getting to that 370 380 390 400 that's the point of no return only eric dickerson had been able to go to that number and return safely you go back and look at the guys that got 390 look at james wilder look at terrell davis look at uh uh the dirt mr uh jamal anderson look at eddie jordan look at the guys
Starting point is 00:52:41 that get those go back and study those once they hit that number and see what their career happened after that so that's why i don't think we're gonna see it again and ed did it he did it in in in in in in 83 which was his rookie year because he came in that great draft class with uh marino and elway and kelly richard dent was in that in that. Bruce Matthews was in that draft class. Daryl Green was in that draft class. They had like seven Hall of Famers. And back then, I don't think there were only 28 teams. So a core damn near, you know, was crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:19 But so who's your Hall of Fame? Who's your Hall of Fame number two? My Hall of Fame and number two? I mean the Hall of Fame. I mean your honorable mention. You want another one? Yeah. Rookie year.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Ooh. Let's go. Let's go, Mike. I'm going'm gonna go i'm gonna go yeah you know even though even though they're getting on my boy for doing too much talking i'm gonna go michael parsons michael parsons rookie at 13 sacks 84 tackles 64 solo tackles 20 tackles for loss. Yeah. You know what? Can I take Kurt Warner off? Nah, nah, nah, nah, no. You got Kurt Warner there, so that's how I know I'm going to win this. No, it's over for you.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I mean, it ain't even close. If I don't win this 90 to 10, I don't know what's going on. Trust me, you're not. 66 to 34, Ocho't know what's going on. Trust me, you're not. 66 to 34, Ocho. Who win it? Me. Well, it's about time. You done lost the last five rough drafts we done played. I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I've got, AD was rookie of the year. Randy was rookie of the year. CJ was rookie of the year. LT was rookie of the year. Reggie White was rookie of the year. I was rookie of the year. Reggie White was rookie of the year. I got – I let you have this. I got defensive player of the year. Man, I got like LT was rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I got one, two, three, four. I got five rookie of the year. I mean, listen, I let you have this one. I felt bad for you. All the time. I've won the past one, two, three, the past four rough drafts. So, I mean, it's about time you got your one. The volume. able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:56:29 the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra
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