Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Bucs win in OT, Aaron Rodgers is cooked, Sam Darnold dazzles

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeating Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers 26-23 in overtime. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets blowing a 14-point lead to Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks and the news that Rodgers is a long shot to return to the Jets for the 2025 season, Minnesota Vikings QB Sam Darnold playing himself into a hefty contract after a win over Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals and much more!04:00 - Texans v Jags13:33 - Chargers v Falcons23:17 - Bucs v Panthers26:43 - Seahawks v Jets33:42 - Colts v Patriots36:00 - Vikings v Cardinals38:40 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What do you think that was supposed to do, Ocho? Hey, can you do me a favor? Yeah. Can you do me a favor? Can you please explain to me what defensive players are supposed to do? I know the quarterbacks have rules. I understand the quarterbacks have rules. The rules have changed. Now, we've seen Holmes and other

quarterbacks, Josh Allen, take advantage of those rules and really not want to On the sidelines. On the sidelines, Ocho, you say you like context. That was in the middle of the field. Okay, come on. That guy was going into a slide. Right, right, right. You're right. So, Al, I don't want to butcher his last name.

Yeah, I'll share. He has to know. You got to know. You got to know Trevor's going down. And if he is going down, don't dive at his head. Just dive over him. Just dive over him. We played par water football. Remember we used to have the monkey rolls?

Where the guy rolled and you rolled over the top of him. You remember that? Monkey roll. You remember that? Damn, I ain't heard that in years. That's crazy. You got to go over the top haven't heard that in years. That's crazy. You got to go over the top of it. Ocho, even if you don't go over the top,

you can't lead with this, Ocho. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to be shocked if he doesn't get suspended. You know what I call this? The Rodney Harrison. Yeah. Anytime you lead with that form,

just Rodney Harrison Jr. Say out for some reason, it resonates with me. When I see somebody do that, they the only two I ever seen make tackles with a forearm. They leave with their forearm. That's that. They,

that's soup bone. They call it back. When I was growing up, we called it African soup bone. Right. I'm going to put that soup bone on you. Oh yeah. Oh, Joe be i'm gonna be surprised if they don't suspend it right right i'm gonna be shot or maybe i'm gonna be fine i have a suspension and a fine well if you get suspended because they take the they take your money you don't get paid

right damn that i mean you you gotta you gotta be a little bit more cautious man a little bit more aware a little bit more aware man that's unfortunate there's there's no room for that you know in the game and you know how much the nfl wants to protect the quarterbacks and have the backs in every game can you imagine if he'd hit my home oh my god he'd hit josh allen man or he'd have hit Mahomes, or he'd have hit Josh Allen, or he'd have hit Lamar, or what? He might have got by two or three games. He might be suspended for the rest of the year. Because the quarterback, Ocho,

that's why they put all the rules in. Because the quarterback is a premium position. Right. That's why they protect the Brady knees. They got the Brady rule. You can't hit the quarterback in the knees. Or you can't drive, you know, put your weight, dump your weight onto the quarterback, O They got the Brady rule. You can't hit the quarterback in the knees. Or you can't drive and put your weight, dump your weight

onto the quarterback, Ocho. They want that guy. Look, they say everybody else is important. We don't want you to think, okay, we lying. The quarterback is the most important. We're not even trying to fool you to think that there's another player that's comparable to him because there's not. I'm going to be shocked.

I ain't going to lie to you, Ocho. I'm going to be shocked if he doesn't get suspended because of the egregious. And here's the thing, Ocho. Remember, intent intent only matters to Al Scherer because Trevor Lawrence is still unconscious on the field.

Yeah, yes, sir. So you can't use that as an offense. Man, that wasn't my intent. I was just trying to use. So what's his argument? I'm trying to make sure he was down. He's going into the slide. There is none.

There is none. Because you can see the intent and what you wanted to do. You can see it. You know, there's some players that really don't play that, you know, defensively. Yeah. Like, they just, they headhunting no matter what. Oh, yeah. And that's, you got to be better, man.

You got to be better as a defense. Oh, we got, oh, but you know what, don't you? Oh, we got to get one of your players. Oh, if you dirty shot one of our players and put him out? Right. Oh, we got to get one of yours. Yeah, but they don't think like that today. They don't think like that today.

They don't think like that. They don't play like that because they understand their repercussions behind that. Like getting fined, getting in trouble. We're going to make it look just like a play. We're going to make it look just like a play. Hey, Mike, call Tex. Call a toss away. We cutting everything. Oh, we're going to get somebody.

Somebody going to get. We're going to cut, we gonna get somebody. Somebody gonna get. We gonna cut somebody until they come get them off the field. It's really that simple. We're not gonna let you take no cheap shot. And we deem it cheap. Damn what you meant to do. We deem it as cheap. And we gonna get you back. So you got to pay. One of those players that was on the field gotta pay

the price. Right. So we getting somebody. I hope Trev is okay though. He's okay? I do too. Remember he had just got back. Yeah. From injury, yeah. He was dealing with an injury. Mm-hmm. Damn. Damn, man.

Man, that was and then they call offset and penalty because Aaron Ingram shoved it Aaron Ingram should have put his helmet right in his back yeah I mean he's supposed to do that oh yeah a 15 yard penalty because we gonna whatever you get kicked out we gonna raise money

and you gonna pay it back you ain't gonna have to pay for it because we gonna raise the money and we gonna pay it so whatever they take out of your check, we'll give back to you. Oh, now you're not going to do... Oh. Oh, no.

Man, I wish somebody... I... Let somebody have done that to John. I guarantee you by four... No, I bet you by four or five I'm going to have ACL surgery in the next two weeks. Yeah, listen, y'all back then, man, y'all like the 90s NBA.

Y'all off in a Royal Rumble. Y'all off in a fight, drop kicking people. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Y'all ain't played back then. No, hell nah. Not the quarterback. First of all, you couldn't do anything to no star player right but if you hurt that quarterback because we know hey what a chance we gonna do anything without what i caught without us and that's a star

yeah that's a superstar man we look here okay i ain't gonna say the b word but it was only yeah oh yeah dead or alive. Mm-hmm. No, you're not fit to do that, not quarterback. Oh, no. That was the best thing to happen, and they changed the rules. That. But. Mm-mm.

Mm-mm. See, they let stuff slide now. Oh, he didn't mean to do it. Yeah, but I think he did. Well, I ain't going to mean to do what I do. I didn't mean to do it. Same, but I think he did. Well, I ain't going to do what I do. I didn't mean to do it. Same thing. Same energy.

Yes. You got to. But I don't know. Ocho, I get it. Like, guys, you see a lot of times guys pretend like they're about to go out of bounds and then, like, they do the little hands in and they take off running the game. Take back in, yeah.

This man in the middle of the field, the man sliding. And you lead like this here. I can see if you're like, because we've seen guys go over the top of him. But you lead with your elbow. Make sure you're going down. Yes. Nah, bro. Come on, bro.

You got to be smarter than that. Look, I understand it's a physical game. And look, you look, we're competing, but at the end of the day, I want everybody to make it home safe. I'm not going to try to do anything to try to put you in harm's way because I don't want you to do anything to put me in harm's way. I know you got family. You got family to feed. Mom, dad, grandma, wife, fiance, kids. And I don't want to do anything that's going to take you off the field that could potentially

take a roof or food from somebody that you love. Yeah, man. Yeah. But all I ask is that you extend me the same courtesy. And Rodney, me and Rodney Hanson were in the same division for a number of years. He dialed me up and said, hey. You play with Rod? Crazy ass?

He was with the Chargers. Oh my goodness. Yes. I was like, hey. He's like, hey on my hey i said hey stay away from the head i was like hey bro i ain't gonna get your knees right right all right hey we're gonna play we're gonna play we're gonna hey now you know i'm coming yeah yep me too me too so just know I'm trying to peel your cap too. Hey, we're going to dab each other up. We're going to work out in the offseason. But just know, I'm trying to split your dome too now.

Hey, I ain't going to be the only one with a mohawk. Because I'm coming. We coming. Okay, just so we know. And we cool. He ain't never cheap shot me. He ain't never cheap shot me. I ain't never cheap shot him. Now, did he put some of our lockdown office

on their hands? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But you knew what you were going to get with him. He's going to play snap the whistle and he's going to hit you as hard as he possibly can. You have to return that type of fire to him because if you don't you're in for a long game, boy. possibly can. You have to return that type of fire to him. Because

if you don't, you're in for a long day. A long game, boy. Ocho, the Chargers defeated the Falcons 17-13. The Falcons needed more from Kirk Cousins, fifth cousin today, and he has not thrown a touchdown pass in three games. In the same time frame,

he's thrown six interceptions. He threw four today. Atlanta has been outscored 75-36 and three consecutive losses. They're now 6-6 overall. Cousins is playing poorly, and it's hard to ignore the fact that the number eight pick in the draft is sitting on the bench. Is it time for us to see another Michael, not Vic, Pinnock Jr. as a starting quarterback for the Falcons? It could be. It could be that time. It just it depends on it depends on the coaches.

Do they want to make that change right now? Because once you make this change and you go from Cousins to Penix Jr., that means it's set. It's solidified. The Penix Jr. regime starts for the Atlanta Falcons at that point on. And I'm assuming Kirk Cousins will no longer be there the following year. Most of the time you would want your quarterback, you would want your rookie quarterback during the times where quarterbacks sit and sit and learn behind a veteran. You want them to have a full season. You want them to have a full season no matter what. Now, if there's any, there's no chances of you making the playoffs, then I would say go ahead and make the switch let penning jr get an early start getting some getting some of those reps and getting acclimated to the speed of the game getting comfortable with the receivers or whatnot i would say all all for it but if there is any chance that you might think you

might have a shot i say you still stay with your shot. I say you still stick with your veteran quarterback. I say you still stick with your veteran quarterback who has a better feel for the offense, even though he's playing bad and he's on a three-game skid. I say you just do. The goddamn Falcons, they started off beautiful. They started the season off great. They did. I don't know what happened.

I saw so much problem in them. And listen, I was one of the few that stood up for the Falcons offense and saying that Drake London and Kyle Pitts and B. John Robinson would have a season they'd never had before because I understood what Kirk Cousins brought to the helm as far as being a quarterback and what he does in the regular season. But these last three games have been abysmal. He's turning the ball over too much, Ocho.

He's turning the ball over. Hell, Ocho. He's turning the ball over. Yeah, he had three on the day. Four. Okay, I only saw three. Now, you just made it that much more worse. He had three. He had four. One was a pick six.

I saw the pick six. And he had two fumbles, but the offensive lineman recovered those. Okay, okay, okay. So he could have easily had six turnovers. Mm-hmm. They could have easily won. He threw that interception, he threw in the end zone to this,

I still don't know. And I'm like, why would you throw the ball like that in the middle of the field in that congested of an area? Hold on, hold on. I still haven't figured it out. I got another one. Why are you on the left hash trying to throw anything to the outside? What are you doing?

And then you leave it all the way inside, and you wonder why it's getting picked. If you're going to make that throw from the left hash all the way to the right, you can't pat the ball. You can't have no motherfucking hits. As soon as you hit that third step, the ball got to be gone. The ball got to be gone. You can't pat the ball. You can't have no motherfucking hits. As soon as you get that third step, the ball got to be gone. The ball got to be gone. What are we doing?

You pat the ball and then throw. Kirk Cousins, on his absolute best day, never had the arm to do that. Thank you. Ain't but a handful of quarterbacks can make that throw. A few. A Josh Allen, a Mah of quarterbacks can make that throw. A few. Josh Allen, a Mahone boy, somebody like that.

Yeah. I don't know if Aaron can make it right now, Ojo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like you say, it's got to be three and no hit. That ball got to be coming. Well, first of all, he kind of semi-rolled. So now it's basically five. And that ball's got to come out.

Right. No. Yeah. You'd be foolish to even try it. Mm-roll. So now it's basically five. And that ball's got to come out. No. You'd be foolish to even try it. And like you said, I don't think you do it because there's still a chance you can win that division and make it to the playoffs. Right. Right. That's why I said that. You got to be

cautious. You got to be careful. Do you want to put that kind of pressure on your rookie quarterback who hasn't been in as much? You just hope that Kirk Cousins can do some of the things he needs to do. As far as protecting the ball, that's number one. Protect the ball and give us the chance. Protect the ball and give us the chance because we won't be able to overcome that, even though they do have a very decent defense with goddamn A.J. Terrell.

And what's, damn, from... Justin Simmons. Yeah, Justin Simmons. And Jesse Bates. They have a good defense. So they're going to need Kirk Cousins to play some good football if they're going to have a chance to get up out of there and have a shot at the playoffs.

But, I mean, the thing is, Ocho, is that when you look at it, what was the temperature in Cincinnati today? It was only 30. It wasn't bad. But you remember Joe said he was wondering how he was going to feel in cold weather, that wrist. He said he really haven't had to throw in cold weather. You think his wrist is bothering him?

No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Because, you know, you always see him flexing it just to keep it loose, though. You always see the breakup, some of that, what do you call it? Scar tissue. Yeah, the scar tissue. But I don't think it's bothering him. I think, look, for me, Ocho, and this is a decision that Raheem and the staff

and the higher ups are going to make as long as I got a chance because they're right there with Tampa yeah and they beat Tampa already ready yes sir so with that being said I'm not so sure I make the move right now

but if somehow and I think they're only going to get one. I think that's look, you got Detroit 11-1. Minnesota's 10-2.

Green Bay is what, 9-3? I believe so. So there are three. There's a division. You're going to get three out of that division. With that being said, you only have one wild card spot available.

Because you got your four division winners. AFC South. I mean, excuse me. NFC South. NFC North. NFC West. And the NFC, so you got who that? Yeah, so they're tied.

Right now, they're tied for the division lead with the Bucs, Ocho. Yeah. And they got the head-to-head because remember, we talked about it, they already beat them. Beat them, yeah. So, you gotta have three teams. Two wild cards are coming out of the North. So now does the other wild card

does it come out of the NFC West? Arizona? Seattle? Rams? 49ers? Dang. Does it come? Does, I mean, maybe 9-7 might get you a wild card

it might excuse me nine and eight i'll keep thinking 16 games my bad i'm sorry nine and eight 17 games nine and eight might get you a wild card oh joke yeah it might win you the division yeah nine and eight could easily win the division in the NFC South and the NFC West. Yeah. Won't get your shit in the AFC though. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, nah. Hell nah.

Because you already got Kansas City. What's Kansas City? 10-1, 11-1? 11-1. Kansas City's what? 10-1? 11-1. 11-1?

Yeah. They lost the Buffalo. You got the Steelers? The Steelers are already. Lost two. Three. They lost three. They're nine and three, I think.

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Adam Thielen, TD, was ruled not a TD. That was a touchdown. That was. I don't know what the refs were looking at. I don't know who paid the bookie or whatnot. That was a touchdown. That was. I don't know what the ref was looking at. I don't know who. I don't know who paid the bookie or whatnot. That was a touchdown. Hell of goddamn Panthers. Hey, Bryce Young, I don't know if you're going to see this, boy.

Boy, shit. You looking, boy. He look good. Man, shit. That's why they took him number one overall. Get a man a little protection. Let some guys make some plays for him. Legged. Feeling. But y'all boys looking tough. Overall, get a man a little protection. Let some guys make some plays for him. Leggett.

Thielen. Boy, y'all boys looking tough. I don't know if we have any Carolina Panthers fans in the goddamn chat, but what I'm seeing and been seeing so far, even with a loss, is promise. I see promise. Man, them boys look good. Bryce Young looks good. Chubbard.

Am I saying it right? I don't want to butcher his last name. Chuba Hubbard. Chuba. Chuba. Yeah, Chuba Hubbard. Boy, shit. Y'all boys finna be hell, boy.

Y'all gonna be hell, boy. Keep pounding, bitch. Keep pounding. I'm telling you. Bryce Young, over his last four games, has 858 passing yards. He has five touchdowns, one interception, and he's led his team to a game-tying or a game-winning drive in all four.

So he's made of the right stuff. Just give him, hey, get him another offensive lineman. Get him some protection. Hey, get him another weapon. And let's see what he can do. Hey, they bring him a goddamn stud in there. Like, you know, ain't nothing wrong with the receivers because the ones he got right now,

but them boys making some plays and he putting the ball where the ball is. Thielen's a little older, Ocho. Let's go. We need some fresh blood. We need some. You want some young legs in there, Ocho? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We need some young legs. I'm not saying, but I'm saying maybe we use Thielen as a third down guy. Right, right, right. But I got to get some fresh legs. I need somebody to get down the field in a hurry. Listen, we need a veteran presence now. We got a bunch of young boys. Yeah, yeah. We don't get rid of Thielen. We got a place for it. Okay, okay, okay. I need somebody to get down the field in a hurry. Listen, we need a veteran presence now. We got a bunch of young boys. Yeah, we don't get rid of them.

We got a place for it. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just making sure. Yeah, we got a place for it. You got to have that veteran presence in there to keep the team together. Keep that four together. All right. But I love, look, it didn't go their way.

They were playing really well. Hubbard, I think Hubbard. Wasn't it Hubbard that fumbled the ball? I think it was Hubbard because he was the one, he was sitting on the bench. Everybody had done gone. And the stadium seemed like it was empty. And he was sitting on the bench with himself alone in his thoughts. I can just imagine what was going through his mind and how he was feeling.

Oh, Joe, the Seahawks defeated the Jets 26-21. This is the first time Aaron Rodgers has lost a true home game with a 14-point lead in his career. He was 75 and 0 at Lambeau and MetLife with a 14-point lead entering today, including playoffs. The Jets were up 21-7

with Garrett Wilson wide open in the end zone. He missed him. And then the next play, he had an opportunity. Hey, Ocho, they're about to put the game away. And the next play, he had an opportunity. Hey, Ocho, they're about to put the game away. And the next play, Big Leonard Williams, who said he was disappointed that he didn't win defensive player of the year. I mean, defensive player of the week last week.

Well, you got it this week, big fella. Two sacks, a pick six, a tackle for a loss, a block PAT. You will definitely win NFC defensive player of the week. If you don't win, I need a recount. Hey, but Young Bull, he was moving, boy. Hey, he was running.

He was moving. Rodgers, a long shot. They're talking about potentially I said something. What did that article say? They're potentially like they don't know if he's going to start moving forward. Start who? They're going to bench who? Aaron Rodgers.

In favor of who? It don't matter because I'm getting the same results. Listen, you think about benching Aaron Rodgers over there in New York right now, he will flip every table. He's going to take a bite. That's okay. He going to be gone next year. We'll straighten it back up. He going to be gone anyway.

Hey, listen, they wouldn't do that. And he not going to go out quietly. I don't see Aaron Rodgers as the type of quarterback that's going to take benching him well. I don't see him taking it well. What are you going to do? Go on P-Mac's show and have them spread some conspiracy theories?

talk about that's liberals act a fool act a fool and make a hell while he's there act a fool and make a hell while he's there

he just seems like the type that would do that that's okay shoot I he didn't play well yeah but I'm sure you know I'm sure they'll say he played well

he was 21 of 39 185 two touchdowns one interceptions ocho and seattle gate tried to get a game away in the first quarter they did they did they did i've never seen return from return a fumble that many times and i i've never seen anything like that Ocho so the very next play began 19 so from that point on Seattle outscored them 19 to nothing

Rogers has a long shot of return they asked Ulbricht after the game about was he contemplating a quarterback change instead of shutting down speculation with a direct no, he replied, not as of today. You know what that means? I don't like answers like that. I don't like what Harbaugh said when they talked about it

and asked him, is Justin Tucker returning? Right. I want to address that right now. What the fuck you mean right now? We're talking about the greatest kicker of all time. But anyway anyway now back to the topic at hand listen Aaron Rodgers I mean man shit

man I mean he look bad Ocho the man about to be 41 he's coming off an Achilles injury which is one of the toughest injuries for an athlete to overcome a young athlete imagine one that's 40.

What did you expect him to look like? But see, if you're honest, Ocho, anybody that's honest about Aaron Rodgers, you labeled a hater. And they try to make it about all the other things. Go back and check. I don't want y'all to do me a favor.

Go back and check my track record about Aaron, about when I was on CBS. I've never denied his ability to throw the football. Right. I always question. I saw some character issues that concerned me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to leave it at that.

Yeah. Now, with that being said, he didn't play well. Aaron Rodgers has not played well this year. And it's okay to say that. Ocho, he's still a four-time league MVP. He's still a four-time first-team All-Pro. He's still a Super Bowl MVP. He's still a transcendent, historically great quarterback.

One of the greatest quarterbacks. But this year, he hasn't played well. And all of those accolades that's been bestowed plenty of and rightfully so ain't got nothing to do it right now you right by that it's unfortunate I'm not sure

I'm sure we've seen quarterback decline I don't think we've seen quarterback decline in such a manner this fast I think maybe because of the injury, due to the injury, I think it kind of sped up and expedited

the process. I was hoping things would work out. I was hoping things would work out because I was one of the few that said, oh shoot,

Devontae Adams coming to the Jets? Oh, they finna be hell. Now, you know, Alan Lazard and him having the pieces

and having Brees Hall, I thought they were going to be all world. And having the defense that they did have, ah, things aren't the same. Shit, hell. Aaron Rodgers playing bad, the goddamn defense, ain't too much to talk about

either. But they were hoping that Aaron Rodgers could elevate this offense. Like Josh Allen is doing the bills? Yes. What, Peyton? You remember?

Now, hold on. People remember that the year before Tom Brady got to the books, Jameis threw for 5,200 yards, 5,100 yards, and 30 touchdowns. Bruce Allen just felt that if we minimize the turnovers, we could be a playoff team. Yep, get you over the hump. The year that Peyton got to the Broncos, they won the division, but they were 8-8.

Peyton comes in, they go 13-3. They get the number one seed. Now, they get knocked out in the divisional round, but you see the improvement. The next year, Peyton wins MVP. He breaks all the records. They go to the Super Bowl. They get demolished, but they did go.

You see Tampa every year Brady was there. They make the playoffs. So they were expecting, they said, look, that guy coming in, he should be able to elevate our offense. We got Garrett Wilson. We got some players.

We got nice running back with Allen and Breeze Hall. We got solid tight ends. Not great, but they're adequate. And a defense. But I said one thing, and I kept reiterating. I say you're under the notion that the defense stays exactly the same if there's no slippage. because if there's slippage, then what?

Yeah. Oh, then you hate. You just say, okay, I can't even. Yeah. Well,

listen, there's been slippage and there's no flex. All there's no flex. All the, the, the stop the leak. Ain't no, ain't hold on.

You mean to tell me they ain't got no remedies. I mean, you taking cayenne pepper and drinking water. You mean to tell me they ain't got no remedies? I mean, you taking cayenne pepper and drinking water. You mean to tell me they ain't got no remedies? All these remedies that you know. Right. Ivermectin and all these.

They ain't got no remedies? Nah. Ain't none. Nothing? Ain't none. Nothing that's going to help you. Maybe, you know what? Maybe it's a conspiracy theory.

Maybe the NFL is plotting against it. You think so, Ocho? Nah, ain't nobody plotting. It's just things aren't going right. Things aren't going right and there's really nothing you can do. Interesting. Hmm. Maybe if he was...

Man, I shoot. Maybe... He going P-Mac show and more power to him. P-Mac doing a great job. Love what P-Mac doing. That man ain't talk about it. Man, that man go. He go on P-Mac show and more power to him. P-Mac, hey, doing a great job. Love what P-Mac doing. That man ain't talking about no football. No.

He talking about the damn football. Oh. Woo. What happened? Colts defeat the Patriots 25-24. Anthony Richardson leaves a game-winning drive. Shane Steichen, we're going for the win.

Going for two. Richardson calls his own number, piles his way into the end zone. The Pats miss a 68-yard field goal. Maybe if it's 67 yards, it might hit the crossbar and goes over. Should the Pats

have thrown the Hail Mary or tempted the field goal? I think, you know, they have a kicker. They have a kicker with a very, very strong leg, one who's accurate, and he can hit it from that point. I think you'd have a better chance kicking a field goal with a kicker that has the strength to reach goal as opposed to catching the Hail Mary. I think the percentage would be much lower as far as the Hail Mary is concerned. And listen, they did what they could.

Drake May had a good game, though. That goddamn Drake May making some plays. Yeah, for sure. Listen, I think the goddamn New England Patriots have found their quarterback of the future. Drake May is looking phenomenal. He's getting better. I know they did lose a game, but he's getting. Drake May is looking phenomenal. He's getting better. I know they did lose a game, but he's getting better week in and week out. He's getting better.

Very, very good. He's showing great promise, you know, going forward. And he's improving week to week. I think they're going to be finding that area as far as quarterbacking is concerned. And ever since his benching, ever since his benching and not allowing it to affect him mentally. Young Bull is playing some good football with that horseshoe. He is. He is.

He's playing some good football with that horseshoe on his helmet. Matter of fact, his coach, Brother Shane Steichen, trusting in him in that scenario at that time to go for two. Yeah. You know what? Fuck it. I'm throwing all the cards on the table. In that scenario, at that time, to go for two? Yep. You know what? Fuck it. I'm throwing all the cards on the table. I'm throwing all the cards on the table, and I'm putting my trust in my offense and in my quarterback.

We going for it. Boy, you know what that does for a team? I love it. Huh? I love it. I ain't gonna lie, I love it. That was very Dan Campbell-ish. Yes.

I'm going to live with the consequences if we don't make it. I'm going to live with the consequences. You gamble. Ocho, the Minnesota Vikings came from behind and defeated the Arizona Cardinals 23-22. The Vikings crawled back into the game after being down 19-6. What'd you call him? Hey, Sam Donald made plays when he had to,

Wotel. When it mattered most. Looking like goddamn Patrick Mahomes. Looking like goddamn Patrick Mahomes. Listen, Sam Donald's playing his way into a very hefty contract. I'm not sure where it's going to be at.

But based on his resume and what he's just played this season, man, he's going somewhere to be a starter again. The only problem is he won't have a Jordan Addison or a goddamn Justin Jefferson

at the helm. So things might be a little different. Or a TJ Hawkinson and an Aaron Jones. Oh, man, listen. J.J. McCarthy gonna have his hands full

like a kid at Christmas when he comes back next year. Sam Darnold was 21 of 31, 235, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked five times, but he did a great job of holding on to the football. Justin Jefferson was 7 of 97, catches

99 yards. Jordan Addison was 7 of 97, catches 99 yards. Jordan Addison was 4 for 54, TJ Hogginson 3 of 33 for 28. Aaron Jones fumbled once, he fumbled twice, but he lost one. Offensive linebacker recovered one and obviously the opposing team

recovered one. But give them credit. They found a way to keep fighting, keep clawing and scratching, and they hung around the defense, did a great job of keeping them in the ballgame, making them settle for field goals and not giving them touchdown.

I can still see your tail lights, Ocho. So therefore, you couldn't run out, and I couldn't see you anymore. You put so many points on the board, it's too far. But give that defense credit for bending, not breaking, forcing them to make field goals, take field goals, and then when the offense got rolling, they got cranking, they were able to get back in

this game. The game went in touchdown drive by Sam Donald and Aaron Jones capped it off. But it was a great win for the Vikings. Hey, look here. I think they got Detroit coming up soon, don't they? Minnesota?

Yeah. I think they got Detroit coming up soon. At least the next two weeks, I think. All right, I don't have a schedule in front of me. It's their last game of the season? So Green Bay got Minnesota, huh? Or Green Bay got the Packers? I mean, Green Bay got Detroit.

Green Bay got Detroit. Okay, I knew Thursday. That's Thursday night, Ocho. Yeah, okay, okay. That's a good one. That's going to be a good one. Going to be a great one. Now it's time

for the last segment of the evening, Ocho. It's time for Q&A. Yeah. I'm glad we got the Q&A because I've been fighting back tears the whole show. Damn.

J-Dub Akron. Ocho. Yo. You can't say foot or ball. You owe me a signed jersey. You owe Unc three bands. Let's go. Don't back out now.

Hashtag Steelers. Listen, as a Steeler fan, as a Steeler fan, I respect you. I love you. I sent out a Steeler fan, as a Steeler fan, I respect you. I love you. I sent out a tweet, you know, showing my love and my graciousness

for all of you. I've always been respectful of Steeler Nation. And y'all have always shown me, shown me grace at all times, even when I was playing. After me shedding tears about my Bengals losing,

I would hope you would be a little bit more lenient in seeing how emotional and hurt I am. Get that man his jersey, Ocho. Get that man his jersey. I ain't got no jerseys. You said you did. You bet that man.

That man said, hey, he want the jersey. Yes, that's the one you betted. Oh, I did? Okay. Tell him I bet. Send me a DM on Instagram. Send me a DM on Instagram. J-Dub, you heard it. Tell Ash to get his information for me or something. You know, I don't know how to do the

YouTube stuff. Yeah, you can DM Ash. Ash will get your information, J-Dub. Matter of fact, I got some jerseys at the house, too. I mail him one. I get one off. I get one off to him. Damn it, I ain't know. Dark Bar said, Y'all, what's y'all opinion on how Bryce Young seems

to turn the year around, even though the Carolinas still losing? Do you think he's earned another year as a starter? Which would you allow the team to use draft picks on getting more weapons? Yes, he's shown that he can play. They're doing a better job of protecting him. And maybe he needed to sit a couple of games to see

and let the game slow down for him. Yeah. So now he got an opportunity to see, man, I want to go in there and you see, man, I want to do that. Man, that's what I should have done. Oh, okay. So he gets an opportunity to see. He absolutely has earned another year.

Yes, yes. Get him some weapons. I love the way they're playing. Because there ain't no more blowouts though, Joe. These games, look, they're playing. Because there ain't no more blowouts, Ocho. These games, look. They're competing. They're competing. They're competing. Every game.

We talk about down to the wire. We score on 21, 28, 37 points. Every game you're competing. That's all you can ask for, Ocho. He's getting better. Oh, yeah. He's absolutely getting better at playing the position. Yeah.

And so, interesting to see how he finishes out the season. Yeah. But he's played extremely well. Obviously, he's deserved. We're going to see how this season finishes up. But I'm anxious. I'm not worried about next year. I'm anxious to see how he finishes up this season.

Right. T.S. Car Wash in detail said, Unk Ocho, who is the best in the NFL as of today? The best team as a whole? Yeah. Oh, shoot. I mean, what? The Lions, probably?

Were they playing? The Lions say the Lions. Yeah, it's hard for me because right now I'll probably say ooh, is it the Lions? I think it's out of, for me, it's out of three teams. I'd say the Lions,

I'd say Eagles, and I'd say the Bills. Yeah, I've got to put the Eagles in there, too. That would be for me. The teams that I think are playing the absolute best right now, the Eagles D-line, we know what they are offensively. Saquon is

playing out of his mind. But their defense, that Eagles defense. Playing crazy. It's amazing how much what one year, one year difference does, huh? You add a few,

you add a few new pieces, a few new wrinkles, and the whole defense look fucking completely different. Yeah. But that D-line is getting after folks. Sweat

and Jalen Carter and I think Williams. I think those guys, they're getting after people. They're doing a great job. Zach Braun is playing downhill. N'Kobi Dean has found his footing. He's been sensational. That backhand is getting better

and better. Blankenship, Dejon, Mitchell. Keon Mitchell, yeah. Yeah, man. He's good. They're good. uh keon mitchell keon mitchell yeah yeah man he's he's he's uh he's good they're good i like what i'm seeing made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small through raw conversations real stories and actionable guidance you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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Killer Ken, TNC said, start my own business about six months ago while working a full-time job. Now I'm in a position to leave my job. Any advice y'all can provide for your boy? And Ocho, love y'all show. Congratulations. Yeah, congrats, congrats. That's what you do.

Yeah, if you leave me a job, I hope it's something you're passionate about. I hope it's something that you love. Because you never want to leave one thing for something else that you really don't what you do. Yeah. If you're leaving a job, I hope it's something you're passionate about. I hope it is something that you love because you never want to leave one thing for something else that you really don't want to do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're leaving your job right now

for something that you want to do, then you won't even need no information for us to tell you anything because you already know what to do. You know what it is, Ochoa? You're already passionate about it. For you to start a business,

you got to be passionate about it because nobody's starting anything that you're already passionate about it. For you to start a business, you got to be passionate about it because nobody's starting anything that you're not passionate about. But do you know what I love most about what you did? Because I know a guy that kind of did the same thing. You build a business while you're on somebody else's time. Come on now.

That's what you do, Kelly. Hey, you played it the right way, bro. Hold on. Build your business on somebody else's dime. And then when you're ready to do your thing, make a clean break. But congratulations, man. I'm happy for you.

Much success. Just continue to work hard. Now, you do understand you don't have that job to fall back on. So you have to devote all your time, all your energy. Don't you let people talk about, man, you work too hard, or you working on Saturdays and you working on Sunday. You do what is required for you to maximize this opportunity for your business.

Yes, we work holidays, we work hard, but we understand that we're our standalone right now. We don't have the luxury of depending on somebody else. And I like it like that. I like it. It's real. I want to give a birthday shout out to my wife for three years. Essa Brandy Bolton, December 1st, Sagittarius.

P.S. Ochoa, also number 85 on Fort Lift, Cola, South Carolina. Essence, happy birthday. Essence, Brandy Bolton. Happy birthday. Hubby wanted to let you know that he's so proud of you. He's happy. You are the joy and the love of his life.

Three years since flown by, and it's all because of you. So Essence, Brandy Bolton, happy birthday. Sagittarius season it is. Happy birthday. Jason Quinones, who will win tomorrow? Cleveland or Denver? Country. The Browns. Bronco Country. Browns.

Bronco Country. You won't bet nothing. You won't bet nothing. Jameis Winston, the greatest philosopher that's ever played the game before. Jameis Winston, the greatest philosopher that's ever played the game before. Jameis Winston, he's basically Muhammad Ali of all time. Okay. When it comes to the speeches. Watch me sack him about seven times.

You won't bet nothing. I bet you don't get more than three sacks. No, no, no. First of all, what am I even talking to you? If your team has not won more than three sacks. No, no, no, no. Listen, first of all, what am I even talking to you? If your team has not won more than five games, if your team has lost four or five, if your team has lost three in a row,

if your team has given up 33 or more points and still lost, we're scoring 33 or more. I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. I don't want you to talk about nobody else's team. Don't do that.

That's so unbecoming. So, have your team won more than five games? Hey, hey, hey, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. I'm already, I'm listening.

I'm already, oh man, I'm about to cry again. Damn. So, Bronco Country winning tomorrow. Casey Tannis, my home fan here. The way Burrow looks for Chase, and now Hurts looks for AJ, could y'all give your expertise on why Mahomes doesn't look for D-Hop after the snap on first read? Does the West Coast playbook play a part?

Look, you got to understand, D-Hop is getting a little old. D-Hop was never a speedster. He has tremendous hands. I understand that third down catch notwithstanding. But D-Hop is normally reliable. He doesn't have the speed to get down the field with the consistency

that, say, Chase or AJ. Yeah. And so, you know, a lot of times they'll probably look the first reader to take the top off, you're looking at Worthy, and you're looking at Kelsey. But you notice when it gets third, fourth quarter, he starts to look for it.

Now, if this was D-Hop three, four years ago, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely, he would be looking for it but DeHop can still make plays you can win with a DeHop he's going to be reliable he doesn't run as well as he used to it's a little harder for him to get open

but he can make those tough contested catches in a crowd in traffic, he has great hands so DeHop's going to be just fine Anthony Mays said Those tough contested catches in a crowd, in traffic. He has great hands. So, DeHoff's going to be just fine. Anthony Mays said, oh, quit bulljabbing and pull Coach Prime and come to OC because Todd ain't listening. And bring Ray to DC and say a prayer for Tucker because he lost. No.

No. Who is he talking about? Coach Brian, bring out OC because Todd ain't listening. Bring Ray to be the DC. I guess he talking about the Ravens, huh? Man, look. They're going to be all right.

They just got to get some consistency. Once they get that, they'll be fine. What are they, 8-5 now? They got the Browns again. They got the Steelers again. Who else they got? Nights like this, I

wish that raindrops would fall oh they got the Giants okay Giants, Steelers, Texans, Browns that's the remaining schedule for the Ravens we gonna win out who? the Bengals

I thought you said we gonna lead that long I was I'm just saying we gonna finish the season who? The Bengals? I thought you said we gonna lead that long. I was. I'm just saying we gonna finish the season on the right foot. Leading in that momentum gonna carry us

in the next season. Y'all ain't got no feet. Y'all don't need no shoes. You don't need to finish on the right nut. Everybody chop y'all feet off. Y'all ain't got no shoes, man. Don't even worry about it.

Steven Garcia has a question for you guys. How would the Cowboys look with Coach Dan Campbell, great leader, strong culture? You can't have that what's in Detroit in Dallas. Jerry's not going to allow it. Don't look at anybody else's situation. Don't look at Coach Tomlin.

Don't look at Andy Reid. Don't look at John Harbaugh. Don't look at Dan Campbell. Because nobody else is having tours during the course of the week. Nobody else has their owner. What other owner is going on a radio, has a radio show?

What other owner is talking about the team after the team plays before the coach? So you have to disregard everything you see about strong culture somewhere else. Try to implement that in Dallas because Jerry Jones won't allow it. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate for Cowboys fans.

It's unfortunate for Cowboys players. Everybody deserves so much better. Nate Harper said, Uncle Nocho, if you could come back and play in your prime and play for any current team which would you play for? Love putting you both on the Eagles NFL 2K5

If I could play for Who you coming back and play for Ocho? I'm coming back to play for Miami boy I just I always I just

I want to know what it's like to play in front of all my homeboys out in the city man and just, I want to, I want to know what it's like to play in front of all my homeboys at the city, man. And just have a good time. And I put myself, hypothetically speaking, put myself and put myself in my prime too. Put me in my prime, man. I'm going to have some fun and play in front of all my homeboys that never had the opportunity to leave the state of Florida, man.

So they can see me play in person and not on TV. I'm playing myone, boy. Am I prime? With Andy? In the West Coast? And that creativity? Boy, you're going to have a field day. I know that offense. You're going to have a field day.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Yes, that's what I'm playing. That's what I'm playing for. Ocho, that concludes this edition of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us as you watch the Buffalo Bills in their stadium. They got one more?

It wasn't there, what I saw? Hold on. Oh, you just put that up there. It has not. Alan Fletcher said, Uncle Ocho, love you guys. It's after midnight and it's finally my birthday. Been with you guys from the beginning and a good way to start my day is

watching Nightcap. Alan, happy birthday, bro. Thank you for the support. Thank you for being a day one. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. We appreciate all our loyal and faithful listeners and viewers. So thank you very much for being so supportive of nightcap because without you, there can be no nightcap.

So happy birthday, Alan. It's early, early in the morning. You probably ain't doing anything just yet, but hopefully you have a very safe and happy birthday surrounded by family, friends, and loved ones.

Hey, shout out, bro. Appreciate you. That's it. That concludes this edition of Nightcap. As you watch the Buffalo Bills beat the San Francisco 49ers 35-10, Josh Allen was spectacular.

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at the Monday Night Football. And if you laugh at me for crying tonight, God don't like ugly now. And sometimes he don't like pretty. The volume. God don't like ugly now. And sometimes he don't like pretty. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.

The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and

help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

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