Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Caitlin Clark poised for MVP Season + NFL allows participation in Olympic Flag Football

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Nick Van Exel debate the expectations for Fever star Caitlin Clark, the NFL owners permitting players to participate in 2028 Summer Olympics flag football, and much more!01:47 - Dream fell at home24:30 - NFL players allowed to play flag football in 2028 summer olympics31:29 - Jeanty changing pre-snap stance35:17 - Dak needs 1500 yrs to pass Aikman and 2740 to pass Romo46:14 - Burrow not happy about season schedule49:37 - New Orleans Inmate Capture Watch1:03:35 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. All right, Nick, we're going to get you out of here with this. The Indiana Fever fell at home to the Atlanta Dream tonight, 91-90. Ron Howard balled out 20 points, three steals, four made threes, two clutch free throws to secure the win.

Kaitlin Clark, 27-11, and now holds the record for the most 25-point 10-assist games in WNBA history, despite only playing one year in two games. She has the most 25.10 games in WNBA history, despite only playing one year, two games. Kaitlyn Clark has six. Sabrina Nescu has five. DT, the great Diana Taurasi, has four. Nobody else has more than two. UNESCO has five. DT, the great Diana Taurasi, has four.

Nobody else has more than two. Clark did it in 44 career games. They've been, look, they've been a lot of back and forth. I think a lot of people didn't want to give her the credit that she deserved where she need to play X amount of years. When a player is great in his rookie year, he's great. Ain't nobody try to hold Magic back. Ain't nobody try to hold Magic back. Ain't nobody try to hold Bird back. They were good.

And people acknowledge they were good. What is it from what you can see, Nick, having played the game, having coached the game, still being around the game, having been around the game, still following the game with your own podcast. What is it about Kaitlyn Clark that makes us so polarizing? Well, to me, even when she was in college, man, I said she's going to dominate once she gets to the WNBA. I knew it.

I could see it. For one, her range is crazy. So now the defense got to pick her up higher on the court now if you pick me up high on the court and as quick as i am and as good as my handles is guess what now i'm gonna live in your paint and when i'm living in your pain i'm i'm driving it off boston get this layup get this layup get this layup so Get this layup. Get this layup. So to me, watching these, watching Caitlyn, is teams are overly aggressive, right? And she's not phased by that.

You know what I'm saying? You know how Luka, when Luka played against the Clippers, and the fans, we like, Clippers, Kawhi, PG, Pat, they finna beat Luka up. And Luka ain't worried about that. He playing at his own pace caitlin clark plays at her own pace so while you want to be aggressive guess what she gonna do she's gonna use that against you and a lot of times they use their aggression on the court so the reason why she's able to get that many assists they're not for threes a lot of times. They're for bunnies.

They're for bunnies. Bunny layup, yep. Because that big is just sitting in that pocket. She's getting that pass, rolling. She's getting easy layups. But Kaitlyn, man, like all through like her little short WNBA career, I said this about this girl, man, was the fact that everybody on the outside was just chirp, chirp, chirp,

chirp, chirp. Youp, chirp, chirp. You ain't hear that girl say one word. Nope. She didn't say one word. You know what she kept doing? She kept hooping. Get better. She got it, dog.

She got it. She ain't worried about that other stuff. She got it. You know what I said, Nick? I said the same thing. And people said with Trey Young. I said, Trey Young's going to be good in the NBA. Man, he too small. I said, the dude led the nation in scoring and assists.

So if he can't score, he can facilitate. And if you try to take away his bigs, he can score. When you can shoot the ball with the range she has, she can get all the way to the rim. You see how she's averaging eight assists a game in college. You mean to tell me that's not going to translate? Of course it is, because she's not

one-dimensional. Now, we saw Jimmer for debt struggle because he could only shoot the ball. So now with bigger guys, they crowd him. He had a hard time. Now, Trey Young, okay, yeah, you crowd him. Jimmer didn't have the handle that Trey had that can get his own shot off.

Jim Ray couldn't facilitate. Trey can get you a 30-20 game. There hasn't been very many guys in NBA history that can get you a 30-20 game. He can't. Kaitlyn Clark has that exact ability. She can go get you a 20-10, a 20-15

game, maybe even a 30-15 game because she has that ability she can handle the ball she's tremendous off the dribble like you said she can get downhill oh she can get downhill hey i'll take that with you right there hot eye or now if i'm playing her i'm if she if i catch her going right that when she's going to get that three off on you. If you notice, most of her threes, when she hit that one in college that broke the record, the one she hit against the Brazilian team, she likes to float right. I mean left,

excuse me. But... You know, you can think about, too, Nick, about why people obviously question players that are great in college, obviously excluding someone like a Caitlin Clark or a Trey Young. But we see so many players that are great in college,

most of the time not paying attention whether they're one-dimensional, whether they can put the ball on the floor or what they can do. But they play so great in college and you see so many of them get to the NBA and they never pan out to what they can be. So then even with someone as great as Trey Young

or someone as great as Clayton Clark is, obviously with the hype surrounding them as well, they always doubt it. They always doubt it because it's not the elite of the elite or it's not the highest level. So they always question it until they get there and they actually prove everybody wrong. And that's what Trey Young was able to do.

And obviously, Clayton Clark is doing it as well. I think a lot of it has to do, Nick, because of their size. Because if Trae Young was 6'5", and led the nation in scoring and assists, it wouldn't have been no issue. But he's 6'0". Kaitlyn Clark, she's not Asia Wilson. She's not 6'4", 6'5", like a Stewie. And so people look at it like, well, I mean,

she ain't going to play with her back to the basket, blah, blah, blah. But you have to look at what they're able to do, how they're able to create points. Not only can I create for me, I can create for you and make it easier for you. And so when you factor those things in, I mean, damn, you want God to give them everything? So you want God to make trade average 27 points in college, average double digital assists in college, and make him 6'4", 6'5"? So you want Caitlin Clark to be able to handle the ball like she

handles, shoot the ball from the three like she does, and make her Stewie or Asia Wilson high. How fair would that be? It's, you know, it's a lot of hate, also. You know, a lot of people hate it. It is. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people it. It is. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people hate it on Caitlyn.

You know what I'm saying? And it comes with the territory, right? It comes with the territory. And the form of respect that I thought that they showed Caitlyn last year was in the All-Star game, picking her up full court in the All-Star game. Full court. Beating her up during the season, which is normal. Like, you come in as a top player.

Guess what? We finna show you. You know what I'm saying? Welcome to our league. We know you're going to be good, but welcome to our league. Take this with you. That's normal basketball. You know what I'm saying?

And she handled it. She wasn't tripping. It was just the outside tripping. And that's why she gained so much respect from me is because she ain't never getting to the media crying about. You know what I'm saying? She let the outside noise cry. She just bawled out, man. What?

The game that they had on Saturday was the most viewed game since 2000. Normally, her games, they sell out. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how good the opposing team is. We know when they go to New York and they play the Liberty. We understand when they come to Las Vegas and play the Aces. We understand that. It doesn't matter who she plays.

I mean, I went to the game when they played the Aces. I mean, and you would have thought she was on the home team. When they introduced her, I ain't telling you what somebody told me, Ochoa. I'm telling you what I'm there. I'm there. I heard it. Yeah. She's different now.

I saw at the All-Star game. I was at the All-Star game in Phoenix, in Arizona. She got an ovation that rivals Asia Wilson. You know, from an individual standpoint, the last NBA player that, in my eyes, who had that kind of effect on a society was that damn Allen Iverson. And A.I. had that same effect, man,

because when he went into an opposing arena, he got a standing ovation. Sometimes you get teams going like the Lakers. Lakers, yes. Austin, the Knicks. A team can go to an opposing. AI, to me, outside of Jordan, was that next person. You know what I'm saying?

That when he went into any arena in the country, man, he got that standing ovation beginning. All throughout the game, they cheer for AI. Kaitlyn Clark got that same effect right now in the wmba and she's bringing eyeballs and sponsors and advertisers and they're about to do a new deal that's going to generate millions and millions of dollars it's going to increase the uh the salary so a one-year salary so now a one-year salary a max player might get three three fifty four hundred thousand why y'all think that is so to me it's it's a win-win for the ladies man you know it's a win-win it's a win-win keep hey keep beating her up you know i'm saying keep

making it rough for you know i'm saying because that's making her better that's making her team better now her team you see her team they coming to her defense now you know yes you got better people around her they coming to her defense but i love the women's game to me the women are made way more funnily sound fundamentally sound than yes mba guys than than the men's side and i love to see these girls who when i love to see when when the good games the indiana's against the you know what i'm saying the las vegas aces and the yeah yeah the aces are uh uh in minnesota yes or or the liberty yeah you know i don't know how good uh i think dallas is gonna be i think i think the mercury is gonna be pretty good this year also um they they they uh added a few pieces. I think Sabatel, Sabali, Satu?

Yeah, I think they added her. They added somebody else too, the Mercury did. They picked up two players because BG is now in Atlanta. Yeah, look, I remember when they first came in, the Institute, I think it was 96, when they brought the WNBA to the, and, you know, normally when the women left, I mean, was 96 when they brought the WNBA to the, and you know normally when the women left, I mean

you never heard from them again you know, I go back to Cheryl Miller and Pam and Paula McGee I remember all those, Clarissa Davis, I remember all the old guard was coming in and then you know, started watching, you know back then with La Tech

La Tech with Kim Mulkey and Chancellor. They won the national championship. And then USC knocked them off. And then Texas knocked them off. And then here comes Tennessee. And Tennessee ran it for years. And then here comes UConn. But now, I mean, now with the parity and the league spread out

and it's growing and it's getting eyeballs. Look, you can say what you want to say. People started watching the NBA and got interested when Magic and Bird came. Right. You said what you want to say. Magic and Bird did that. Because the game was still tape delayed. You was flying commercial.

Yep. You could get on a plane and you might be sitting next to your favorite NBA player. So, hey, Kalen is doing an unbelievable job. You're right. You know how it is when the rookie come in. We don't make it easy on them. No, I know.

A linebacker, safety, corner, hey. The whole, I'm going to give you the whole nine yards. I'm bringing out all the tricks. I'm trying to make you look as bad as I possibly can. Cause what you think those other, those other guys on the other team going to do, you think they're going to, oh man,

your age, man, he didn't know what pick, let's take it easy on him. Hell no. Everybody's trying to prove a point. Everybody got to prove that point. Cause bro,

I don't, first of all, I don't ever want you to think that you can cover me. So I'm going to get to, I'm going to get to you early and often. That's why I went to the Pro Bowl, Joe. We had one-on-one. Now you're not going to cover me. Because I don't want you to get back to the mainland and think you can cover me.

It ain't just because you're over in Hawaii that you can't do it. When we come back to the regular stage, the 48, you ain't going to see me over there either. So we could, just so we know, wait. You stage, the 48th. Yeah. You ain't gonna see me over there either. So we could, just so we know, wait. You're on the same page. Everything is, but she's box office. I mean, she's what?

She's already now, they listed the top guards, the top centers, the top forwards. She's already top guard second year in the league. Yes. She was all WNBA first year in the league. Yes. She was all WNBA first year in the league. And she's a favorite

to win the MVP second year in the league. That's correct. Just going to show you. Oh, she hype. No, she not hype. I've seen hype. No, that's not media creation.

That girl, excuse me, that young lady can really, really play. Man, listen, if you got a set of eyes, you know that. Yes! Anything outside of that at some point it becomes

okay, now you just here. You tried to find fault. Yeah. I think when the WNBA first came out, because I was around it, I was living in Houston and they had the comics, you know what I'm saying?. I was living in Houston and they had the comics. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They had everybody. They had Cynthia Cooper.

They had Tina Thompson. And they had Sean Swoop. They had three of the top six players in the NBA. Yes, they did. And I remember vividly when Rebecca Lobo came on the scene. The WNBA was just trying to promote Rebecca Lobo. And Ocho just said it. WNBA was just trying to promote Rebecca Lobo.

And Ocho just said it. You know what I'm saying? You got a ball. The eye test is going to tell you, like, you can't force nobody on us. You know what I'm saying? Nope. Caitlin Clark, you ain't got to try to force her on the public. Like, she can hoop.

You know what I'm saying? So, kudos to her because she's helping the game out big time. Helping the big time is going to grow exponentially. A lot of their games are going to be nationally televised. I thought she should have been on the Olympic team last year. I thought she was that good. Hey, she got to wait her turn, but her turn is definitely coming in 2028. Nick, the chat keep asking us about some Kobe stories rest your

soul what's your favorite Kobe story oh man favorite Kobe story so uh

of course everybody know we used to we used to play one-on-one all the time and you know Kobe was a

big time uh and one player at that time you know and one was hot and uh I ain't gonna lie Kobe had better hammers

than me. And so, you remember the dunk he did and we all going crazy on the sideline. Yeah. That happened to be

a preseason game, right? Preseason game in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. People don't understand, like, they thinking we celebrating

the dunk. Nah. We ain't celebrating the dunk Dale Harris in the huddle Kobe come up get the ball we gonna fake screen and whatever cool players for Kobe he walk out he telling everybody and Kobe

Kobe used to walk you know he Kobe was about 8 feet tall man the way he walked cause you know he had the swag you know what I'm saying the swag is crazy and uh he just walking up there everybody I'm about to dunk on this food I'm about to dunk on this food I'm about to cross this food up and dunk on oh oh that's why we went crazy because that man sit that's the one he put behind his back. It came up under the real. Oh no, no.

The one where he just crossed them up and came down on the middle. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Nick, did you know, practicing with him, he was, you know, he came in as a 17 year old did did you see any indication that he was gonna turn out to be what he was not as good it was an indication he was gonna be good but not the greatness you know what i'm saying but here's things that i saw in him that when you look back, you can understand, right? So one was he was taking classes at UCLA in the summertime.

Summertime UCLA, we going up there to hoop. You know what I'm saying? So every time I'm walking to the gym, Kobe walking this way. So we crossing paths. He got his backpack on. He drilling his ball. What up, quick?

He gone. I'm talking about it was like it was like clockwork every day this is how we was every day that was one thing every day after practice

he got all the power forwards the 6'9", 6'10", 6'11 guys and they playing one-on-one with him but but he the only one who can shoot he the only one who can shoot. He's the only one who can shoot. So now he's working on all the Jordan moves,

all the Jordan fadeaways. So they get a point if he miss, he get a point if he make. Every day. Every day. So I used to have these VHS tapes, right? And they was full of the GOAT. You know what I'm saying?

Michael Jordan, the GOAT. About eight hours worth, right? The GOAT they was full of the GOAT. You know what I'm saying? Michael Jordan, the GOAT. About eight hours worth, right? The GOAT. Michael Jordan, the GOAT. I ain't buying into it, Nick. I heard you the first time, but you already know. So I had about six to eight hours of the VHS, like two or three of them, right? And I would put them on a plane, and it had boxing on it, it had football, it had

just all highlights. It was crazy. And, man, one time we getting ready to get on the plane, Kobe, everybody called Kobe, kick up, he called, kick up, kick up, kick up. Let me get that tape. So I gave him, let him get my two tapes. I ain't seen them tapes, man.

I still ain't seen them. And Tracy McGrady, oh, Tracy McGrady said that when he came out to L.A. and stayed with Kobe now, he said all Kobe did was watch Michael Jordan. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, those are my tapes.

But that was like, we knew he was going to be good. We knew he was gonna be good we knew he was gonna be good like we knew that but the greatness like historically great i i tell i tell people like kobe was way more mature than us and we were three four years in the league before ko. But he was way more mature than us. So, yeah, man, he worked at being great. It didn't just happen. Yeah. Nick, tell the people where they can find you. Plug your podcast. What's your podcast called?

So it's Quick to the Point, man. Nick Van Eksen, Quick to the Point on YouTube, man. Check this out, man. We just getting started, man. Who's your co-host? We got Brandon Dean, University of Arkansas legend. Johnny Collins, TCU track star. So him and Clarence Hill, Dallas Cowboy beat writer.

Yep, yep, yep. I know Clarence very well. Yeah. Where can they find you on IG and Twitter? Man, I literally just got on IG a few weeks ago. I think it's Nick, Nick, the quick van X,

Nick, the quick van X on our IG and on Twitter. That's the one I'm always active on is a van X. So my last name 31, the number 31 van X or 31 on Twitter. Make sure y'all go check y'all. Make sure y'all check out Nick van Etel's podcast at Twitter and IG. Nick, thanks for joining us.

Give us a few minutes tonight, man. Greatly appreciate it. When you get a few moments, come back and stop by and talk to us. Yes, sir. Oh, save me one of those sticks, man. Oh, I got you. I got a few of them. When you coming back out here?

I see you. I got to come back out there in about two weeks. Hey, tell your brother, though, I'm headed to South Carolina. I'm trying to see him on that course. Oh, you? Okay., though, I'm headed to South Carolina. I'm trying to see him on that course. Oh, you okay? All right. I'm headed to South Carolina.

You want to play for some money or something? I need to tell him to get his money right? Nah, I'm good. All right, man. Hey, appreciate that, man. I'll talk to you, bro.

I appreciate y'all, man. Yo. Ocho. What up, baby? It's official. NFL players will be allowed to compete in flag football in LA 28 Olympic Games. NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution

to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics by vote 320. Unanimous. The NFL version of the dream team is coming. Justin Jefferson on flag football in the Olympics and the NFL being able to participate. To be honest, I'm at a loss for words. To think about a chance for playing in the Olympics

and getting a gold medal, it's a dream. Five-on-five format, which each team filled in a 10-man roster comprised of the following positions. A quarterback who can only run past the line of scrimmage after handing the ball off and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after snapping the ball. Wide receiver back who can line up as either a standard running back or wide receiver. A rusher who can rush the quarterback from seven yards off the line of scrimmage, defensive back

who defensively functions as a traditional corner, safety who prioritizes defending the pass over the run. Here are the rules, Ocho. The field is 70 yards by 25 yards. 40-minute games, two 20-minute halves, including a two-minute warning.

Four downs to reach midfields and four downs to score a touchdown. No plays within five yards of the end zone. Overtime scores tied, with each team getting equal chance to win. Ocho? Yeah. You're general manager. Pick your 10-man squad.

Oh, my 10-man squad? Yep. Ooh. Lamar at quarterback. You got Lamar. You better take Lamar, because he can run and throw. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, we got Lamar at quarterback.

Okay. Give me Chase, give me Justin. Okay. We need a running back, right? Yeah. Give me Justin. Okay. We need a running back, right? Yeah. Give me Saquon. What else do we need? You need running back.

You need two wide receivers, a quarterback. You need a rusher, a corner, and safety. Give me Stingley. Okay. Give me Stingley on one side. PS2? Yeah, give me PS2 on the other side. My safety, give me Derwin.

Okay. Give me Derwin. He can get back there. He's rangy as hell. Um, we need a linebacker, huh? We need somebody in that middle, huh? You better get somebody that can rush the passer. You need Micah.

You want Miles Garrett. No, no, no. Give me Micah. He's a little bit more quick twitch. Okay. Give me Micah. Can I get Fred Warner now or not? Hold on, Joe.

I think you're trying to feel a real damn team. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying. Okay, you get a to fill a real damn team. No, no, no. I'm just saying I'm going to play football. Okay, you get a quarterback, a center, wide receiver back, rusher, DB, safety. Hold on, but now the center also can go out for a pass, though, so it's not going to be a real center.

So, you want to take Tyreek? Yeah, let's add Tyreek going to be my center. Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? But also, let me say something real quick. Now, I understand that NFL players can do it, but we have legit flag footballers that actually play the game.

So I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well somewhat because the game, obviously the game of flag football is going to be new to those that are playing in the NFL and the rules are much different. It's much, much different. So I'm hoping those that play flag football are able to represent the country as well and allowed to play alongside the NFL players. I'm hoping that's what it is. It's not strictly the NFL players. I'm hoping that's what it is. It's not strictly only NFL players. Yeah. Right now, their proposed roster, the 2028 Olympic team, CBS Sports, say this would be the proposed roster, Ocho.

Jayden Daniels at quarterback, running back. Jameer Gibbs at running back, wide receiver. Devon H. Ann, running back, wide receiver. Devon H. Running back wide receiver. Justin Jefferson, wide receiver DB. Jamar Chase, wide receiver DB. Travis Hunter, wide receiver DB. Rush, Michael Parsons. Rush, Nolan Smith Jr.

Corner, Darryl Stingley Jr. Safety, Maxwell Hairston. You know what? That's not bad. That's not bad. But we got to have more people out there than that, though. Not on the field. I'm just saying as far as reserves.

Huh? Reserves. We need more reserves. Well, you got a 10-man team. 2, 4, 6, 8, 10. That's 10. Man, that... I mean, the 10-man team that CBS picked,

I'm probably going to pick somebody that's elusive, quick twitch. So, Jaden Daniels and Lamar are going to be my quarterbacks. I like Gibbs at running back. Yeah, that's a good one. I say Saquon, but Gibbs is a lot. 28, I think, you know, I would go say Christian McCaffrey,

but he might be a little old. No, no, no, no, no. I like Gibbs. I'm thinking, who another running back that can catch, you know what I'm saying? That can catch and run.

Because mainly, they't going to be running they going to be throwing them the ball I like Gibbs the best okay that's why I think I think Kwon is either one of the two

yeah I tell you what that can get gone but all but the running backs and receivers are interchangeable because they're running back

or receivers so you can line them up anywhere so I like Chase I like Jeddah I like Tyreek I like A-C. So I like Chase. I like Jeddah. I like Tyreek. I like A-Chan.

Yeah. I like Micah. I like that. You know who I... Who is a good rusher? Like Nola Smith. I like Will Anderson Jr. That's a good one. He real twitchy.

You got to get guys to be able to change the rest of the show yeah go ahead do guys starting to stop it and plus

you gotta realize these players haven't played flag football in 25 years that's why when I thought about it

I'm like well damn we got players we got people that represent us that play the game

of flag football they actually play flag football. They actually play it. So I'm still curious. I know we're talking about the NFL players and how good they are in the NFL. Yes. But playing flag football and their rules are completely and entirely different.

Entirely different game. Damn, that's a good one. When Ashton Gentry makes his NFL debut for the Las Vegas Raiders this season, he might be debuting a new pre-snap stance in the backfield. Since high school, Gentry has stood straight up with his hands

by his side in the backfield before the staff. My stance that some have compared to Mike Myers, the infamous killer in Halloween horror movies. Chip Kelly, the Raiders offensive coordinator, wants me to adopt a different stance in the NFL. Oh, man, what are we... Ocho, you have to understand.

If you put him... Ocho, if you put him down on a three-point stance, how is he going to see? He already 5'8". So how tall was he when he started playing football? 5'8". What is he started playing football? 5'3". What did he go see? The problem is starting the first day of recent band camp,

you know, sometimes you have to. You have to go with the flow. Jensen said Kelly asked him if he had ever played basketball. I'm like, yeah, I play basketball. You know, I can dunk and all that. He's like, okay, show me how you would guard, and he's acting like he's holding the ball. You don't like guys, you don't like the coach changing the stance. What are we doing?

What is Chip Kelly doing? What are you doing? The man has had success playing the game of running back in the same stance all this time. Now all of a sudden he gets to the Raiders. You want to change the way he stands. It has nothing to do with running the goddamn ball. Nothing at all. It's not giving away any indication. No indicators.

Leave the man alone, man. What? Listen, some coaches some coaches get a little beside themselves. Just create the narrative. Just to feel

not to really abuse your power. Just be unnecessary. just create just create a narrative just to feel just to not really abuse your power just be unnecessary change the stance for what? it's unnecessary and it's pointless tell me so we both know

because if there is something that him standing in that stance was an indicator it's a run it's a pass i said okay he needs to switch it but he's just standing there that's it he does the same thing every time run play pass play nothing changes and all of a sudden he gets you okay we want to change for what makes no sense i wouldn't change. The thing is, Ocho, unless it's something like you really try to change

as little as possible. I mean, maybe there's some technical things. You're like, you know, with a wide receiver, you're like, okay, son, don't let your elbows flare out when you're doing the hook

or stuff like that. You try to keep your elbows tight to your body. Things like that. You know, hey, you're tipping your route because you're getting your head around to it.

You let me know you're going to run out or you're going to come back or something like that. But other than that, I really try to tinker with too much because I liked it enough to select them six overall. So there is something that I like. I mean, and you knew that. So he's been doing that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. And here you go. I want to add your little twing to it just to say, well, he's able to do this because this is what I told him to do.

Right. It's kind of like Michael Johnson running style. Why would I change that? You know, people keep saying Quincy Wilson, the Quincy Wilson, the young guy from Bullets running the 400. Bro, the dude run 4420. Change what? Right. Same thing with Abby Steiner. Well, you know, she got that

arm and all I know is she ran 21.8 and she ran sub, you know, she can run sub, you know, she can run sub 11. So all that other stuff that y'all talking and she can run sub 50 into 400 meters I ain't changing the she's doing something right

so Ocho Dak Prescott is 1500 yards away becoming the all time passing leader no Dak needs 1500 yards to pass Troy Aikman he needs 2740 to pass Tony Romo. So he's about he should pass Tony Romo to become the all-time

passing leader in Cowboy history. Until until I know he's going to get married. Congratulations Dak. But if you want to be thought of like Aikman, like Starbuck,

got to get that. Ain't no way around it. Ain't no way around it. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, when it comes to the Cowboys, I'm not sure how much window of opportunity they have left.

I think the addition of George Pickens, you know how I feel about him. Offensively, I think they're going to be all right. When it comes to the Cowboys, it's going to be your defense.

Your defense is going to have to show up because you're going to be able to put up points. Your defense is going to have to show up. That's all I'm going to come down to, especially in that division. Diggs, is Trayvon going to be able in that division. You know? Is, uh... Um... Diggs, is Trayvon going to be able

to come back? And how soon will he come back? They brought back Dante Fowler. He followed DQ over to the Raiders. Excuse me. The Commanders, they re-signed him. They want to pair him with Micah. Obviously, we know Micah wants that big deal.

Micah's looking for $40 million. You know, I think he wants to be the highest paid or close to it. I don't know if the highest paid means as much as guaranteed money means to him. We'll see how that plays out. But how close is Trayvon from being able to go? Well, he's a year removed from that surgery because, you know, he went a little bit last year, man. I know.

Yeah, so I think, obviously, this second year, two years removed from it, I think he's... No, he had another surgery. Didn't he have another surgery? He didn't finish the season? He got hurt again? I think so. Didn't Trayvon Diggs have surgery on something?

I know Overstreet is going to be gone this year. He ain't coming back. Yeah, he's hurt. Or they just shut Trayvon down. He's coming back from an injury shut Trayvon down. He's coming back from an injury, Ocho, I think. I'm wondering if it's something serious. I don't think it's something

serious that they see here, though. Dez Bryant, former Cowboy Greg receiver, tweeted, If the Cowboys go get Chubb, combine him with Blue, the Cowboys offense will be the most dangerous in the NFL. I really can't find a con if that happens. Think about it. Blue gets to learn from a dynamic

back who plays the game the right way. That's how you mold a young, promising running back. That really quick, pick your poison situation. C.D.O. Pickens can put the ball in the end zone anywhere on the field. There are so many strategic ways for the cowboys offense for success i think the defense is going to perform well but

how well we know micah and digs are going to perform i'm skeptical to see how the new these changes affect the defense to sum it up i don't think the boys are trying to win i think they should make a few more sacrifices to compete with the new, improved NFC East division. Listen, make a splash, Jerry. Make a splash. What Dez Bryant says makes so much sense.

It makes so much sense you know Jerry's not going to do it. Signing Derrick Henry and not using money as an issue, not being able to afford a player like Derrick Henry that has succeeded continuously despite his age in Baltimore.

Listen, now you have an opportunity to do it again. Make a splash again. Help your offense out. Your identity is on offense. It's what you will be known for. You have special pieces, you know, on defense. They're going to have to do what they need to do, but be all in offensively so you can compete

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I ended up coming back to play two months sooner than I was supposed to. Follow my journey as I give you direct insight on how I did just that. Thankful for everyone who played a role with me getting back out there. Episode one, out now on YouTube. That's live. I got to check that out. I didn't. That's live. I gotta check that out. I didn't know he re-injured it. I didn't know that. Fred Warner signs a three-year, $63 million

contract extension over $56 million guaranteed. The deal ties Warner to the team through 2029. The reworked deal also returns Warner to the top of the list of the highest-paid off-ball linebackers in the league at $21 million per season. Remember

Roquan just signed that deal last year that paid him $20 million per season and brought him to the top. Now Fred is back at the top of that list. You see also they just paid Brock Purdy. He got $265 million.

He got $181 milliondy. He got 265. He got 181 million guaranteed. Fred got 63 million, 56 million guaranteed. Ocho, you like the moves they're making? Yeah, absolutely. They took care of their three centerpieces. They're three centerpieces for that team. Kittles, obviously the quarterback, Brock Purdy, and then their defensive leader.

Yep. And Fred Warner, who is the best middle linebacker in the game. Rightfully so, at some point, despite what Roquan Smith got, you have to do right. You got to do right by Fred. You got to.

Hopefully, they can stay healthy on both sides of the ball and contend again for another championship. Joe Burrow says Trey Hendrickson deserves to get paid amid Bengals contract talks. Having previously vowed

for T. Higgins to get paid by the Cincinnati Bengals, Joe Burrow is now stepping up for Trey Hendrickson amid his contract standoff with the organization. Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Burrow addressed Hendrickson's contract by saying he deserves to get paid based on how important

he is to Cincinnati's defense. That's going to be tough, huh? Listen, I don't know the books. Joe's spending all their money on Joe. Joe's spending all their money. Listen, Joe's trying to squeeze him there. And one thing you don't want to do is you took care of Joe offensively,

making sure Chase and T. Higgins were taken care of. Both of them taking most of the money. I don't know the cap. I don't know what we have left to actually spend. But we still need to be able to have a team to be able to pay everyone else.

All the money can't be locked up on offense. Think about how bad the defense was and you had Trey Henderson with 17 and a half sacks. 35 sacks over the last two years. So you take him out there. Where you going to get that production from, Ochoa? You take him out of there? Yeah.

Hey. Can you afford him is the problem. The question is can you afford him is the problem the question is can you afford not to man Ocho I don't know I don't know

if I can afford this insurance can you afford to be without it given your history you know you got hypertension you got diabetes you got hypertension.

You got diabetes. You got all these ailments that run in your family. So the question is, can you afford it? Can you afford not to have it? You know how many games y'all lost last year, Ocho? How many games did y'all give up

30 plus points and you lost? You scored 35 and you lost. You scored 38 and you lose. How many of those? So while you're saying, can you lost. You scored 38, and you lose. How many adults? So, while you're saying, can you afford it, can you afford not to have it? Listen,

I wish I knew what the books look like. I understand the salary cap continues to go up year in and year out. But listen, we got a $40 million receiver. We got a $30 million receiver. A $55 million quarterback.

A $55 million quarterback. And what he deserves at the defensive end with two 17 season 17 and a half sacks yeah I mean he

he gotta get what upwards to what 30 he looking for 30 the reports are they offered him 28 up from up from like 50

I think he's supposed to make what 15 this year he's gonna want to be in the 30s. That's tough. That's tough. And the thing is, Ocho, but it looks like you got a defense that's staying in the office,

that's staying in the Taj Mahal, and your defense is sleeping on some friends' and family's couches. Hey, I don't even know. I wouldn't even know what to do in this situation I wouldn't even know because you got some people that say well hell he had 17 sacks but still his defense was bad

can you imagine what it looked like if he didn't have those sacks remember what he did he single-handedly won you that game in Pittsburgh now y'all remember that he had three sacks

he did he did he did and a forced fumble the end of the game basically Joe Burns was not happy by the team's schedule for the upcoming season He did. He did. He did. And a forced fumble. The end of the game, basically. Mm-hmm. Joe Burns was not happy by the team's schedule for the upcoming season.

Playing Baltimore for the fourth straight year in primetime isn't ideal. Maybe we can get one of those games in Cincinnati. Please? The Bengals have played a night game at M&T Bank Stadium each of the past three seasons. All of them have been defeats, including last year's 35-34. Remember Ochoa again? He scored 34-40. He lost.

Remember the other week, they scored 38, and they lost 41-38. Listen, I know Joe wanted to be home. Obviously, it makes sense. But, hell, when you play the goddamn Ravens, you got one home game.

He said, well, let our game be the primetime game. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It don't make me none. Nighttime, daytime, anytime. Yeah. But you played with a shield, too. Didn't you play with a shield, Locho?

Oh, no. I need to see. I need to see it, and I need you to see my eyes. I don't wear no shield. No, sir. Well, I played with a shield for one year after I fractured my orbital. I played with a shield. Like that clear one. But it's hard.

That clear one. Because, you know, for wide receivers, you're not really in the down stance. There's a tight end. You're down in the down stance, and that sweat dripping on the shield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like that. But you wore the clear one? I wore a clear one.

Yeah. I wore the dark one in the Pro Bowl. But I don't know how guys, I don't know how receivers catch with that dark one, especially at night. Wait, who, um, A.J. Brown wear a dark one? Yeah.

I don't know how they do that. I mean, because it's hard getting adjusted, you know, because we play a night game, you go out there that Saturday night to get your eyes adjusted, get your cleats and everything adjusted. And that glare, it catches you just right because, you know, sometimes that ball gets lost up in the lights. They're like, man, how you – whoa.

I can see that damn ball up in the lights. That's crazy. Burrell is also disappointed in the NFL for not giving them an international game. He says he worked really hard. He's worked really hard to grow the NFL internationally and is disappointed they haven't had one yet. But he is doing quarterbacks, correct? I think. Yeah.

Are you disappointed, Ocho, that you did not have an international game? Because they probably would ask you to go to be an ambassador. I mean, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. I got my passport, too. But, I mean, listen, their time will come. Obviously, you know what? That long flight, you should be thankful you don't have to fly there

during the season anyway. You should be thankful. Hey, because it's not Ocho. You know they get over there the day before, right? Again, why they shouldn't, well, they should be happy. They don't have to take no seven, eight, nine-hour flight to go across that water. Yeah.

They might arrive the day of. I mean, they might because it's not like it used to because teams would go over there like that Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday they don't do that anymore

with y'all they probably get all the practice in before they even leave yeah do a walkthrough get there they say studies

and doctors say it's best to just go over there and just go play the game yeah think of that that's that's that's

A-A-A-S-S backwards. Ocho, New Orleans inmate watch. One was captured at home. The other was captured as he fell asleep at the bus stop. But what he was doing at the bus stop anyway?

I'm leaving on the next train. I don't know when I'll be back again. But what's the point of breaking out of jail if you ain't got nowhere to go? I'm going to just stay.

You know, there's some bets out there right now for the... Oh, the last one going to get captured, yeah. Yeah. Ocho.

Yeah. Look, I promise you, I might call. I ain't going home. Because there's a great chance the first place they're going to look. They're going to go look at my brother's house. They're going to look at my sister's house. They're going to look at my house. So I'm getting the farthest.

First of all, if I'm New Orleans, I'm getting the farthest away'm getting First of all If I'm New Orleans I'm getting the farthest Away I can The quickest I can Wait uh You can't You can't get far away Unless you got money You got to get the money

From some of us Well if you don't plan to Break out of here I'll tell you Hey I'm blowing this joint Leave me uh Leave me 500

500 what? 500 dollars What the hell You gonna go with 500 dollars In this economy? 500 me $500. $500 what? $500. What the hell? You're going to go with $500 in this economy? $500. I'm getting away from New Orleans. That's where I'm going. Trailway or Greyhound will get you away. You can get $30. I'm going to be in Texas.

I'm going to be in New York. I'm going somewhere. But you're not going to catch me in New Orleans. Okay, but you're going to get caught New York. I'm going somewhere, but you're not going to catch me in New Orleans. Okay. Well, you're going to get caught somewhere else. Okay. $500. But I'm a,

guess what? I got a chance to see something besides New Orleans. Nah. How are you going to eat? $500. Hey, go get me a grand slam. Denny's got them a grand slams.

Oh, I've got all you can eat slams I got all you can eat pancakes all you can eat pancakes I'm trying to make me a bet on who get caught last I'm gonna get me a shave I got a homeboy that's a barber hey come hook your boy up man hey where you calling me from stop asking all these questions come cut me a homeboy that's a barber. Hey, come hook your boy up. Man, hey, where you calling me from? Stop asking all these questions.

Come cut me. Cut? You know, if I got a beard, I'm shaving the beard. If I got a mustache, I'm shaving the mustache. If I got dry, I'm cutting, I'm cleaning up. Right. You don't think about that. You saw a buddy got

broke out of jail jail First thing he do He go on IG live With his homeboys Yeah They caught him They caught him quick Quick He deserve to get caught

Listen man Whatever he did He probably had it on him When they caught him The first time The bus stop you gonna be out there in plain sight hey but

you ain't got nowhere to go especially if your family don't want to deal with you that's the only reason you own the bus stop cause you know you ain't got nowhere to go and then hold on you in jail for whatever it is maybe murder or something like that and then your family they let you in jail for whatever it is, maybe murder or something like that, and then your family, they let you in.

Now they can go to jail for hurting you. Yeah. They told him, no, you ain't coming in here. Better go back where you came from. Hey, like on the wash. You might as well want to be inside. You remember that movie with three strikes? Uh-uh, don't

bring that heat up in here. Hell no. Nah. But Ocho, you can't get called to play inside. I ain't going to

be at the bus stop. Ocho, I think you can make it a month or two. Listen, it's one thing for you to say it and it sound easy when you plan it out in your head

because you're not really in that situation. True. Your family ain't turning back on you. You right about that, Ocho. You ain't got no money. You right about that, Ocho. You right about that. It's easy to say, oh, man, okay.

What you gonna do? Yeah, all right. You might be right, Ocho. I might as well go ahead and take the three hearts of the car and just shut it all down. Hey. Matter of fact. Hey, Ocho, why they break it out? Y'all go ahead, man.

Ocho. Hey. I'm bopping the floor. Hey, I see when you get, I see y'all, we all get back. Yeah. Nobody knows the trouble I see. I'm still trying to think about where you think you're going to find it all

just because you broke out of jail. That's a little something, Ocho. That ain't nothing. Ocho, I can give you a good old, all you can eat pancakes. I can eat about 15, 16 pancakes. Sometimes you just want

some fresh pancakes and sausage. Fresh orange juice. Bangle work. Or give me some good old oxtails, some other fried pork chops, something. Well, since you're in New Orleans, if you can eat seafood, gumbo, jambalaya, etouffee. Crawfish. Okay. A little beignet

for dessert yeah yeah gotta go buy a car for Dumont let me get let me get three with powdered sugar let me get two

with powdered sugar and three without hell nah I'll be but that's the thing you ain't thinking about it no oh no oh she from a 27 year old jeffersonville georgia i know jefferson is uh tiffany slayton was found alive after reportedly surviving three weeks alone injured in the california mountains with no equipment no food food, enduring 13 brutal

snowstorms and climbing 11,000 feet. Tiffany was found safe in a cabin near Lake Edison in the Sierra Nevada Mountains in California after being missing for weeks. She came across the cabin during a blizzard and said she thought she was

hallucinating that she had made it to the North Pole. Hey, hold on. This is our people? Yeah. One of us? Yeah. At their loss?

Loss. Well, normally, you know, stuff like that, you hear stories like this, it's definitely because we don't put ourselves in those situations. No, no, no, no. We're not really outdoorsy like that. You hear stories like this, it's definitely because we don't put ourselves in those situations. No, no, no, no. We not really outdoorsy like that. No, no, not really. And if we are, we real careful.

You know, people ask me all the time, man, you go camping? No, I grew up in a log cabin. It was worse than a log cabin. I grew up in the woods. How long do you think you can survive? Survive what? Out there in the wilderness by yourself shoot man i'm trying to think you know i climb mount everest right so when i think about when i climb out there's no food in mount everest at least out there in the wilderness you might run

across some game if you can hit it and kill it maybe a a rabbit, a squirrel, some fowl. Can you fish? You don't like to fish. You ain't got no patience. But when you get hungry. Huh? I can spear fish. Where you get the spear from? I'm going to make it.

I'm going to make it. What you mean? I'm going to get it from. I'm going to make it. I was a Cub Scout. I was a lead Cub Scout back in 83. You heard me? This man talking about all the things he he gonna do and he ain't got nothing

no i'm saying you don't know what berries to eat and not to eat you eat the blue ones the red ones the red was not good for you it fucking be a digestive system i was a cub scout i used to camp into the camp I think it was the guy from Georgia Emory and he went to Alaska and you know he ended up eating while he started he ended up dying I think that's the name of the movie you remember that movie you know why he died can I tell you

why he died for one he didn't have survival skills two he wasn't the fucking Cub Scout do you think this woman had survival skills you asked me a hypothetical think this woman had survival skills? You asked me a hypothetical You don't have survival skills You've been living in the ivory tower The last 15, 20 years of your life

I'm talking about before I got the ivory tower I was a cub scout You ain't been in the woods You can't be a cub scout without the woods Uncle, what are you talking about? I been in the woods. Y'all saw me. You can't be a Cub Scout without the woods. Uncle, what is you talking about? Hold on. I was in the woods. Hey, matter of fact, you know what they feel in the Blair Witch Project?

You ever saw that movie? Yeah. That's where I was at. That's where my Cub Scout team was at. I don't know. Listen, we had to deal with coyotes bears raccoons all that

I was at it for like a month with the Cub Scout team it was a team us I was a Cub Scout leader it was a team of 25 25 of us it's you by yourself it ain't 25 of y'all

it's you by yourself I'm listening based on what I learned as a Cub Scout I can survive on my own I guarantee you you don't forget everything you don't learn. No, absolutely not. Can you survive on Survivor, the show?

You think you can do that? But see, Survivor is about teaming up. It's about getting with the right people. It's about pairing. See, I'm looking at a situation, Survivor, I starve your ass off the island. I catch fish, clean fish, eat fish myself. Right.

I kill animal, clean animal, cook animal for myself. I ain't trying to partner with you. Oh, such and such is talking about you and start. Nah. If I got an issue, the one thing I do, if I got an issue with somebody, I don't recruit somebody else to have an issue with, say, a person. That's me and your issue is me and your issue. So that's how I look at it. So it's

survivors like really team oriented right right right it's kind of like big brother you know big brother is not it's all about you know linking up with the right people and hoping they don't backstab you yeah I just started your ass off the island yeah I could survive

on my own could you survive on your own yeah I could why you think you can survive on your own could you survive on your own? yeah I could why do you think you could survive on your own? because of the way you grew up? yes my point exactly that's not how you grew up being a Cub Scout growing up

you were the Cub Scout a couple of weeks out of the year I grew up in my environment for 20 years every day of my life I'm a survivor. Okay. You listen to the Destiny Child song, Survivor. That's the only thing you survive. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma,

and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself

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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn.

In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story,

listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel, me personally, I feel very comfortable that if I had to, I could survive. I could fish, I could hunt, I could dig baits. I know how, yes, I could. But are you not the only one do that? I did that too.

Okay. You know what? I tell you what. What we should do is that we should get a YouTube. You go somewhere. I go somewhere. And we see who survived. Oh, I'm definitely going to survive.

That's easy. See, because your stuff, your ankle is going to be hurting. Your knees are going to be hurting. Your hips are going to survive. That's easy. See, because your stuff, your ankles are going to be hurting, your knees are going to be hurting, your hips are going to be hurting. I'm going to be hurting, but I have a belly full. Your stuff healthy and you starving.

You think you standing out your ass be looking like Skeletor when you get back. How you start a fire? How you start a fire? I can start a fire. How you going to start a fire? Are we going to do it with a flint? No. Two rocks. Go ahead. But I'm saying you can have a fire. How are you going to start a fire? Are we going to do it with a flint? No.

Two rocks. Go ahead. But I'm saying you can have a flint. So let me ask you a question. So what are we taking? How are you going to get a flint? You survive. Here's the thing.

First of all, if you know you're going and you're going to be going to the wilderness, you're going to take certain things. No, no, no, no. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. What is it? We're putting you out there with nothing, and you have to survive on your own.

Ocho, that's not how it works. So you think people that just go in the wilderness, they just like, you know, okay, we're going on the beach. Well, I'm not going to take flip-flops when I know I'm not. I'm not taking an overcoat if I'm going to the beach. Well, at the same token, I'm not wearing flip-flops and shorts if I'm going to the beach. While the same token I'm not wearing flip-flops and shorts is if I'm going to the wilderness. So you take things accordingly. And see,

if you're taking things accordingly, there's a good chance you're going to survive because you're already prepared. That's how most people do. They find, like, you don't go to the, you think people that go, they don't have, they take water, Ocho. Hey, what happens when you run out of water? I'm a boy of water.

Bring it to a boy? Huh? How you going to boil the water? What you mean, how? So now you're going to have a stove. What you call the mini thing you pack? You know what I'm trying to say. The boil water say the boil water

the boil water, the portable the portable all year thing man, Ocho first of all, you take necessities you don't take anything, I mean like I said you take only what you because at the end of the day Ocho it's going to get heavy

nah, nah, nah nah, I'm good, I'm good I bet I can too i probably i know i can but we go a different place no you know how i know you can't survive in a wild by yourself you ain't got no goddamn patience you ain't got no patience how you gonna survive why why see why you got patience you wait for something to happen. I'm going to make something happen. I'm going to make something happen, too. Okay.

Okay. I got to. Hey. All right, Ocho, we're going to get out of here on this one. It's last segment of the day. It's time for Q&A. So Nina said, Ocho, where are you? Are you at a strip club? Hey. So Nina said, Ocho, where are you? Are you at a strip club?

Yes. Am I who? No, I'm at work. I'm at work. No, this is not a strip club. And for everybody in the chat, it's not a strip club. This is Area 29. It's called Adult Ballet.

There's a difference. This ain't this. It's the same thing. Instead of saying a drug dealer, you're a street pharmacist. We get the idea. No, no, no, no. This is luxury. This ain't just for the faint of heart.

Now, this is, matter of fact, hold on, hold on, hold on. Well, who just asked that question? Come here, come here real quick. Please, please, please, please tell Nina this is adult ballet. Hold on, hold on. This is adult ballet. real quick please please please tell nina this is a little ballet hold on hold on hello ladies oh lord have mercy how you doing ladies how you doing welcome to night camp how you ladies doing tonight we don't have? Is business booming tonight? We off tonight.

We off tonight. Okay. Let me ask you a question. How's the food in Area 21? The food good? Yes. It's really good. If the team were to come,

what do you recommend? Wings, hibachi rice. Sorry, Mom. What do you recommend? Wings, hibachi rice Salmon What do you recommend? Wings Wings Hibachi rice The pasta

Salmon rice The salmon Salmon rice So if you don't mind me asking The chat wants to know Start left to right Names please Luxury.

Burger. Chocolate. Charlotte. Oh, okay. Okay. Are you guys natives of Houston or you moved? I'm from Memphis, Tennessee. Okay, you're from Tennessee.

Okay, where are you from in the middle? I'm Dominican. You're from where? I'm Dominican. Columbia. from where? I'm Dominican. Columbia. Oh, okay. Okay, Columbia. Dominican and Tennessean.

Okay. Well, thank you for hopping on with us, ladies. Say hello to Nightcap. All right, chat. Say hello to these lovely ladies, Area 21. And if you're ever in Houston, make sure you start by Area 21. Oh, what is it? Area by area 21 damn my bad i got 21 i can't see area 29 well thank you ladies yeah hey make sure you subscribe to nightcap thank you Thank you. Bye. Yeah.

Hey, yeah. They say, they say the wings, the hibachi, hibachi or sriracha rice. Right. I think somebody said something about pasta.

I don't know about pasta in a, in a, in a. a in a yeah but hey listen we got everything up here you know i got you know i got the head security job up here two days ago yeah so uh whenever you want to come back whenever you want to come back i mean we'll take care of it i think i better lay low nah nah hey i don't Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. You can't see me going laying low. Gregory Gogan said

OKC, ABC, FCC, Thunder and Five. That ain't happening. Quinn said Minnesota, cream soda, baking soda. OKC and six. Absolutely.

Devin Jett said Timberwolves might be the ugliest team in NBA playoff history. I mean, you talk about the way they play or we talk about a little something? Talk about the way they play. Talk about the way they play. Yes, I don't know. Trash Talk Tito said, What's your question? What one old school rule

or mindset that needs to come back? Respect. In what though? I guess he's talking about sports. But most of the time, players do respect each other. There's only been a few chords. You can count them down on one hand.

Players don't respect authority, Ocho. Oh, you said authority. I thought you meant each other. There's only been a few quarters. You can count them down on one hand. Players don't respect authority, Ocho. Oh, you said authority. I thought you meant each other. That's why you have turnover so much like you have in the NBA and the NFL. Okay, I see what you're saying. All cardio. Hey, Ocho,

what player didn't live up to the hype but still had a solid career? And then what sport? That's a good question. And most of the time, the ones that didn't live up to the hype, it came from injury.

Injury for a lot of players that were hyped up, you know, coming out of college. I'm trying to think who. Anybody you name, I guarantee you injury derailed that career.

I'm trying to think of a football player that had hype. When I think of a solid career, Ocho, I'm saying you played five, six, seven years. I ain't saying, you know, you delivered to the height and you played one or two years and you were gone.

I'm trying to think. Damn. Man, oh, Cardi, that's a good question. I can't think off the top of my head. Yeah, Reggie Bush. Reggie. Reggie had a good year a good career that's what I'm saying but we thought Reggie

was going to be Barry Sanders considering what he was think about what he was at USC oh what he was in college oh yeah he had a very solid career

won a Super Bowl played outstanding went to the Rams excuse me not Rams the Dolphins Detroit I think he had a thousand solid career. Won a Super Bowl. Played outstandingly to the Rams. Excuse me, not Rams. The Dolphins. Detroit. I think he had a 1,000-yard season with Detroit. Yeah.

Yeah, I like that. I like Reggie Bush. I like that. I like that one. No Chill Will, Uncle No Cho, you guys are late-night legends. Question for you. What player did you hate until he played on your team? Damn, I ain't hate nobody, boy. That's a good question. I ain't hating nobody, boy.

That's a good question. I ain't hating nobody, though. I'm trying to think, who played on my team? The only guy, but I never really did play against Romo. Romo was at the 49ers. We didn't play him. We played against him once when he was at Philly. But being around him...

Bill Romanowski. Romo? Oh, yeah, that original Romo. But being around him and seeing how hard he worked and then seeing that

how he prepared for his craft, you have an appreciation. I'm trying to think. The guy that I had to probably, we had the most fun with was probably Seth Joyner. Seth played at Philly, his best years were at Philly. He played a couple years at Green Bay, and then he joined us. Man, he was great.

I love Seth. Seth was unbelievable. Sergei said, my guy, what is is your biggest what if moment in the NFL mind if what if Russell had never threw that ball on the goal line against the Super Bowl

in the Super Bowl against the Patriots yep oh what what if Carson Palmer never got hurt in that 2005

playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Instead of losing 35-7, y'all probably lose 35-17. Boy, we winning that game. What if Jackie Smith had caught that touchdown pass from Roger

Staub back against the Steelers that year? Let's go recently. What if there was no tuck room? That might have been the biggest because that started the greatest dining in NFL history.

Yep, sure did. What if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, Ocho? That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Snacks at halftime. Hey, Uncle Ocho, I got something different.

Headline feature, Skip, Nas. Okay, Skip, Nas, Kendra Lamar, Andre 3000. So he said for a headline, for a feature, Skip. Damn. Wait, who is it again? Andre 3000, Nas, Kendra Lamar. Ooh. Ooh, wait. Nas, Kendrick Lamar ooh ooh wait

and that's tough I'm gonna let you answer that one for me I'm gonna go three stacks the headline I'm gonna go Nas for the feature damn you gonna skip I ain't got no choice

three stacks from the crib and Nas man come on now yeah you right Illmatic come on bro nah I ain't I ain't...

Nah, eh. Three stacks of Nas ain't going nowhere. And I like... Eh. Kendrick's on... Eh. I love Kendrick with Imagine Dragon. Love his stuff, but...

Nope. I got one. What if I never tried to... What if I never tried to blindside Ray Lewis I just saw that in the chat that's a good one what if you'd have been my teammate I would have three rings

top five receiver all the time too yeah I'm top five right now that concludes this episode of nightcap thank you guys for joining us the oklahoma city thunder take a 1-0 lead over the minnesota timberwolves in the western conference finals thanks to a 114 88 victory over the timberwolves shea gildressress, 31 points. Jalen Williams had 19. Hartenstein had 12. Chet had 15. As they rolled 114 to 88

over the Minnesota Timberwolves. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own

bingo ring of fame honorary pro bowler. Hey, he gonna get that work in. That's one thing pro bowler hey he gonna get that work in that's one thing about Ocho he gonna get his work in no matter where he has to be he gonna do the work special shout out to Nick Van Exel

for joining us tonight the all-star the 13 year NBA player breaking down this game tonight Nick appreciate that continued success and like I said

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The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode,

I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way

to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.