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02:36 Rookie quarterback Caleb Williams made news this week when his teammate Kevin Byard revealed that Caleb asked his teammate to be more organized in cleaning the locker room. First thing Caleb said was, hey man, we're all grown men here. He was like, we're getting a little too sloppy. We're leaving water bottles, towels, all types
02:58 of things around. Custodians have a lot of square footage that they have to cover in this whole building. Let's try to help them out by cleaning up after ourselves. Manny Toomer took issue with this and went on Craig Carton saying, some rookie that hasn't played one snap wearing
03:14 fingernail polish, now he's going to come in here and tell me, hey, Russell Wilson 2.0 rookie, clean up after me? How do you feel about this, Ocho? I mean, I understand what Caleb Williams is talking about. This is the NFL locker room. It's going to get messy. It's going to get junky. People's lockers are going to be junky.
03:30 There are very few, very few players, very few, that keep it neat and tidy and neat the way you do your home. Very few. But I understand. I think where he was coming from, where he was coming from was a good place. He was coming from a good place. I understand. I think where he was coming from,
03:46 where he was coming from was a good place. He was coming from a good place. I understand what Amani Toomer's talking about. You haven't done anything yet, you know, to be, but again, you are the leader. You are the first round pick. You are probably going to be the team captain as well.
03:58 So from that standpoint, I get where he was coming from. But again, also there's a certain thing as a rookie, telling vets, and I don't think he meant it in that way. It wasn't malicious, no ill intent, just about, you know, keeping everything right and making the custodian job easy so he didn't have that much to do.
04:16 Yeah, for sure, Ocho. I mean, some of my teammates, I put shoes on to go in their house. Timbs, hazmat suit. Ain't no way. You look at that locker and you look at the weight, I say, ain't no way in hell I would ever eat. I'd have to be a hostage
04:33 to eat at your house. Ah, hell no. I kept my, actually I had two lockers. I kept my lockers clean. I'm talking about Lysol, I spray stuff was organized. Shoulder pads hung. Everything against the wall.
04:49 Everything. Nothing was out of place. Right, right, right, right. Come to my home. It's the exact same way. Yeah. Come in my car. It's the exact same way.
04:58 Yeah. Yeah. Exact same way. Now, I don't I don't I don't do mess. I don't do club. Right. And you not been to come in my house and clutter it up. No.
05:09 Not at all. I mean, I wasn't a neat freak. I didn't have OCD with it. But it was decent. It was decent. It wasn't crazy. It wasn't crazy. I had my four helmets. I had two. Depending on how I felt, I had four helmets had my four helmets i had i had two depending on how i felt i
05:25 had four helmets in my locker depending on what i wanted to wear shoulder pads white shirt black shirt gray shirt two three pairs three pair of sweats i used to like you know i used to love to practice in long pants an orange pair a black pair and a white pair and that's it. My laundry bag and my toiletries obviously and that's it. Nothing else. If you don't eat the side of me, you had to keep your locker clean too because you ain't finna drive down my property value.
05:55 Your property value? We used to say that too. That day, there's my property. You driving down the value. Clean that issue up. The linemen are my property. Yeah. You driving down to value. Clean that issue up. Clean that issue up. The linemen are the worst. Yeah.
06:09 And you ain't got to clean it up. But guess what? I bet your stuff be on the other side tomorrow. The linemen are the worst. Oh, man. Them jugglers got, man, they stuck. Nah. I remember them days.
06:19 Everything was so, man, it's like, man, Shaw, why you? I go over there every Tuesday. I put the stuff. But Tuesday, the day off, I'm going there getting my workout in. I got Lysol. I'm beating out, making sure everything. I got the vacuum. I'm vacuuming them out of my locker.
06:33 I'm making sure everything nice and neat, hung the way it's supposed to. That's, come on, guys. It don't take that much. I get it. I get it. That's somebody's job. But damn. You ain't got to make a job. You ain't got to make a job.
06:45 You ain't got to make a job harder. You got to make it harder. Yeah. Hold on. The basket right there. You going to throw your stuff right there on the floor. You can't get your big lazy ass up and throw the stuff, put the stuff in the basket.
06:58 Come on, man. You cut your tape off, Ocho, and the trash can right there. Yeah. Right, Ocho. Leave it right there on the floor or they miss or they miss the trash can and never go pick it up I'm like bro pick that up I get it Caleb
07:18 I get it I get it I get it alright look it all depends um somebody in the chat said god damn uncle you had a vacuum in the locker room
07:33 oh yeah I had a little mini vac I did I had a little mini vac yeah like the little ones where you hold with the handle yeah the dust buster that you tripping that's Like the little ones where you hold with the handle? Yeah, the dust buster. Oh, the dust buster. Yeah. But you, that,
07:46 are you tripping? That's, hold on. That's getting my teammates. Did I tell you? My stuff, you ain't. I can go, let me go in any locker room and I can tell you
07:56 how serious he takes it. Right. Because I'm going to look and see what he got in his locker. Yeah. That'll tell me the seriousness of it. Of how he takes it.
08:06 Yeah. Oh, shoot, boy. That it, of how he takes it. Yeah. Oh, shoot, boy. You had that OCD, boy. I'm like that with everything. I'm going to get, I'm all, that's what I got to be careful. That's why I got to be careful
08:18 what I give my time to. Okay, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, yeah. Because they know, I'm all in. Yeah. Once I start working, it's work, work. Everybody knows that.
08:32 Hey, I know kids call. They know certain times they call, they go call. And I know, according to when they call, the seriousness of the call. Right. But yeah, that's how I am, Ocho. Ocho, check this out.
08:48 The NFL is shutting down rulebook loophole that the Dolphins, 49ers, and Rams were exporting during the 2023 season. The Miami Dolphins office took the NFL by storm last year with big reasons what happened because of Mike McDaniel implemented a new
09:03 pre-snap motion that allowed his speedy players like tyreek hill to thrive at one point last season 49ers kyle shanahan referred to the movement as cheap motion and it seemed the nfl agreed with that assessment for the 2024 season the dolphins could be penalized if they continue to use the motion um due to the new rule that's being added this year. I think I already know what they're talking about. It got to be when Tyree comes in motion to the bunt side and he runs
09:32 straight. He either runs a stop or he just keeps going deep. That's the only one I can think of. So what, they want him he has to be at a standstill? They want you to square up. Okay, I see what you mean. Well, hell, either way if he got a running start or if he square up,
09:47 it's still going to be the same result. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I see what you mean. I know exactly what you're talking about as soon as you said it. Yeah. We were talking about the Dolphins
09:56 because Tyreek, I mean, it only worked with Tyreek because you got to have blister. Now, maybe Xavier, maybe the Kansas City was thinking about using it with Xavier Worthy. Worthy, yeah. But you definitely, definitely gonna have to have
10:07 some guy with some speed or it doesn't work uh is that one of the questions that we still ask uh NFL motion loophole round 49 and 40 top five quarterbacks
10:25 the likelihood to succeed this season is that where we going and we got is that the question you want me to ask Ash Ocho question went viral today the pettiest reason you stopped dating someone oh I remember that I remember that. I remember that easy.
10:47 I was dating this chick. Man, she's just going to have to get mad. I was dating a chick, right? You got to understand, we engaged in a conversation. I told her I was going to pick her up and I went to her house. And you know how I am.
11:00 I'm very open. I'm very open with everything and the way I move as far as using the bathroom. You know how you say you don't play that oh I don't care I went to use the restroom I went to do number one
11:09 eight minutes before we leave bump let me use the restroom real quick I went to go pee I look at the toilet tissue she got one ply she got one ply toilet tissue how you want me to take you
11:21 to Chris Ruth and you got one ply toilet tissue that mean you don't even take you to Chris Ruth and you got one ply toilet tissue? That means you're not even taking your hygiene serious because you got one ply in here. But you want me to take you to Chris Ruth? Your priorities is all mixed up. What are you doing? What are we doing? At least have two ply toilet tissue in your bathroom when you have gas.
11:44 That let me know you're not serious about your hygiene. Well, she ain't got it like that, don't you? Well, if you ain't got it like that, why the hell you want to go eat at a goddamn steakhouse like Chris Roode? Because you got it like that. Yeah, but no, I don't need you to. I need you to be an asset, not a liability. Like, let's start from the ground up. Let's work on getting you two-ply in here.
12:06 And then we'll work our way to going to nice steak houses and shit. I don't even eat that goddamn, that Chris Rue shit. That's not even for my palate. But here you go. I'm ready to try to take you serious. I was willing to go to, you know,
12:22 and that just threw everything off, huh? Like, what are we doing? Like, that don't make no sense. Man, you would look. There have been a couple of them, Ocho. What about, I, uh... One. Yeah.
12:35 Chick passed gas. I was done. Never called again. Wait, just because of that? But I thought it was disrespectful, Ocho. Okay, I see what you're saying. I thought it was disrespectful. But y'all ain't know each other yet.
12:46 Let me tell you. No, no, we were cool. And I really liked her. She was thick. Ooh, long. It's back. Hey, Ocho. And you let her go just because of that?
12:55 Ocho. Because I thought she was disrespectful. Ocho. She one foot from being in the bathroom. Right. Done. Maybe she couldn't hold it. That's a part. That's that's that's human nature. Well, I mean,
13:12 what are we doing? It is. It is like I fought around real real fought around me. You know, I sometimes we even rate the smell, you know, one to ten. No, she right there. She was she was run foot from being in the bathroom it was like all she had to do
13:25 was take her up no no and then and then this one chick Ocho yeah I just like the toilet seat was up
13:35 okay what's wrong with that okay me got another dude coming over women always put the toilet seat down ain't no sense in me bothering it. I'm
13:47 out. Wait, she left the toilet seat up? Yep. Wait, what if she was cleaning before you got there and it just happened to still be up? Nah. And I saw pee stains. Oh, so that means somebody been over there peeing. Yeah, whoo yeah there it is
14:05 and it wasn't me that's a good one so fellas if you had that date with anybody and she's saying you're the only one she's dating
14:13 and you go to her house that's a good one check the toilet even if it's down even if it's down lift it up see if they have pee stains on the rim
14:20 that's a good one listen I'm locked in. I'm excited for the people in the chat that might be dating somebody. They got to go check a toilet. Matter of fact, record it and send it to me, fellas. I want to see. That's dope.
14:35 That's a good way to catch the two. Look, that ain't petty, is it? That ain't petty. I don't want to put myself out looking. Because as I, you know, I started like, I was like,
14:49 with my brother, I started to be a little bit cautious, but I still wasn't as cautious as I needed to be because it wasn't me. Right. But then as I got into the league and then I started, I was like, man, I can't.
15:00 Man, like I said, some of the stuff I've told you to happen, I was like, man, I can't keep putting myself. No, no, no. I'm a penitent that's a real current thing you keep putting yourself in these situations nah
15:10 I'm done I'm done damn that's a good one I ain't never thought about that man check the toilet lift the toilet up see if you see peace
15:18 ain't let you know that nigga a dude been there oh that's a good one yeah I'm not the game but you draw some dollars for them boys in the stat, though. Hey, what's up with the time now, Ocho?
15:29 Yeah. In college, they tell you, I disappear from Friday to Sunday. Right. Man, hey. Man, where's y'all? They see me next thing, they see me Sunday, about two o'clock.
15:41 I'm laying in my bed, looking up at the ceiling. Man, y'all, where you been? Man, y'all, where you been? Man, y'all, where you been? Because God, people, they talk too much. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Ain't no nothing. Ain't no nothing. That's how you got to
16:01 keep it. Hey, Ocho, they say, Shannon, if you was any kind of if you any kind of animal would you be everybody say they're they're lying yeah i'm a leopard i travel by myself yeah i hunt by myself yeah that way anything happened okay yeah you know where it came from i know i know so that's just me guys everybody hey man that was a good one y'all talk about man you got i've got two months dude that's why he ain't this ain't that long okay y'all make it seem like i'm stressed right you have you have you have i'm. Ocho don't gotta hook a rail and Ocho don't hook it up.
16:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're gonna be bad. Hey, Derek, you almost heard me slip up, huh? Yeah. I almost said that word. All right, Ocho.
17:09 Now it's time for Ocho's favorite segment let me get my hat let me get my hat hold on I can't pronounce so many words oh lord I don't know what a clean lady put man you ain't got a good look at you ain't no telling oh lord i don't know what a clean lady put my hat on hey all right well ocho let's give it let's give it a swirl ocho i i don't know what's gonna happen oh lord i mean you
17:42 like you like samson without his hair oh that's just what i feel like right now man damn okay come on let's we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna give it we're gonna give it a try the first word is ostentatious ostentatious austin austin austin Austin Austin Austin Austin Austin Alright, it's probably going to be wrong, but I'm going to give it a go, okay? You ready?
18:14 Yep A-U-S-T-I-N-T-A-C-I-O-U-S Austentatious O-S-T-E-E-R It's fucking old, man T-I-O-U-S Austentatious O-S-T-E-R it's a fucking O man T-I-O-U-S ostentatious my bad
18:29 my bad my bad my bad see I ain't got my hat man I ain't got my hat and I spelled it like Austin, Texas like a damn idiot
18:35 I'm tripping okay number two I think this is Acu-S hold on you don't even know I'm tripping. Okay. Number two, I think this is Ac-U-S. Hold on, you don't even know how to pronounce it and I got to spell it? These are the words that you sent in that you wanted to spell. Ac-U-S.
18:59 Huh? Ac-U-S. Ac-U-S. Ac-U-S? Yes. Can you use it in a sentence please you know what ocho i didn't really want to do this but i aqus what it's when you give in oh when you give in aqus-S. All right, I'm going to take a swing at it. I might strike out like Aaron Judge, but Accu-S. Acc-U-S.
19:32 A Q U-E-S. Accu-S. A-C Q-U I-E S-E-S. A-Q-S. A-C-Q-U-I-E-S-E. How was I supposed to know that, Unc? I've never used that word in a sentence ever.
19:55 You know what, Ocho? This is an easy word for you. What do you mean? All of them are easy, but you have to give me something I've actually used before. I've never used A-Q-S in a sentence. Okay, how about this here? Obfuscate. Obfuscate. Obfuscate.
20:17 Ocho, you're obfuscating. I think it means to put off. Y'all like these words I'm giving? Y'all like these words I'm giving Ocho tonight? Hey, we playing Spelling Bee on All Mad, man. What the hell we got going on here, man? Oh, okay. It's to render
20:45 obscure unclear unintelligible nah nah you wanna get me you be getting me stuff in 75 BC where were the first
21:03 Olivia's I'm like hello man this man said 75 BC where were the first delivery? I'm like, hello, man. This man said 75 BC. How about what? Well, you got
21:21 you got my stomach hurting, man. Well, you got to be crying. You got to be crying over man. You got me crying over here. Hell no. Hey, what's the word again? Say the word. Obfuscate. Obfuscate. You got this with each other.O.S. season I ain't never heard that shit before
21:53 obfuscate okay okay I'm finna give it I'm finna give it a try obfuscate let me sound it out let me sound it out right let me use one finger and sound it out Okay. I'm going to give it a try. Obfuscate. Let me sound it out.
22:07 Let me sound it out right. Let me use one finger to sound it out. Obfuscate. Okay, you ready? S. A. V-E. Skate.
22:18 S. K-A-T-E. Or maybe S-C-A-T-E. O-B. L-U. Oh my God. S-C-A-T-E O-B L-U S-C-A-T-E Obfuscate A Well you got me over here
22:34 in tears Hell nah Hell nah Well you got all I can't even for now I'm gonna give you an easy one you been saying all of these you ain't never heard this shit before
22:50 Epscon Epscon they say they to get to me. Hell no. Hey, my stubborn boy, you got me in tears over here, man. Hell no. Abscon. Think about it. Abscon. wheel man hell nah abscond abscond abscond
23:30 oh shoot hell nah hey abscond I'm gonna take a swing at it ab I know ab is abs so ab okay boom ab scone I mean it better be to take a swing at it. Ab. I know ab is A-B-S. So ab. Okay, boom.
23:45 A-B. Scon. I mean, it better be S-C-O-N. Abscon. Uh-huh. A-B-S-O-N-D. Abscon. Okay, Ojo, the last word
24:05 a bullion a bullion it's uh showing liveliness enthusiasm I believe I believe oh shit no
24:43 but you got my head hurt Oh, shit. No. But you got my head hurt. Oh, shit. Yeah, no. Boolean. Boy, this is fucking classic. Oh, shit. Boy, you got my stomach hurt.
25:05 Okay. Okay. Oh, boy. That's good. A bullion. Yep. Take a swing at it. A bullion. A-B-U-L-I-N-T.
25:19 A bullion. E-B-U-L-L-I-N-T. A bullion. E-B-U-L-L-I-E-N-T. A bullion. Well, that hat got miracle power. It don't matter what hat I wore tonight. I wasn't getting none of the motherfuckers right you could have had Dr. Seuss hat on tonight you wasn't going to spell none of these words
25:51 oh man alright don't you man you got my head hurt man hold on hey boy oh man. Hello. Hey. Huh? Boy. Oh.
26:08 Boy, my, boy, my, I can feel my abs, but my abs hurt, boy. Man,
26:13 you got my head hurt. That was classic. That, that, that was classic. Man, I know I'm finna get some from the 1912 Olympics. Hey.
26:25 I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets.
27:23 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
27:56 I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Ocho. Payback time.
28:46 Here we go, Chad. Dunk or Unk? Chad, here we go. Oh, man, I'm sweating. There. All right, here we go. Question number one for Dunk or Unk. What year did did NFL hold
29:05 its first Hall of Fame game what year did the NFL hold its first Hall of Fame game oh shit yeah I know I know how you feel oh my goodness boy that was fun oh man
29:23 yeah I know I know I know I give you a hint give me a hint Frank Sinatra performed at Carnegie Hall this year 1963 wrong
29:40 but you was close you know why you was close cause he performed at Carnegie Hall in 1962 but you was right you was close. You know why you was close? Because you performed at Carnegie Hall in 1962. But you was right. You was right. He was right there. And he did perform at Carnegie Hall in 1962. Okay, here we go.
29:55 Second question. What two players from tonight's Hall of Fame game franchises are being enshrined in the Hall of Fame this year? From the two teams that are playing tonight who played tonight i ain't telling you don't chat don't tell him oh devin hefter okay and andre johnson okay and listen i gave you that one you know because because i'm a friend i gave you i gave you an easy one i gave you that one but i know, because I'm a friend. I gave you an easy one. I gave you that one. But I got one for you right now. And you ain't going to get this one. Just to bring you back down to earth. Okay. Name the last four American 100-meter gold medalists.
30:41 The last? The last four. four Mayo 100 meter excuse me gold medalist uh in 2004 it was Justin Gatlin in 2000
30:59 it was Maurice Green hold on hold on it looks like you're reading something now it looks like you're reading something no. It looks like you're reading something. No, no, no, no. Justin Gatlin in 04. In Athens. 2000.
31:12 Mo Green in Sydney. Yeah. Are we counting? Are we counting Carl Lewis in 88 being suspended, receiving the goal after Ben Johnson? Or are we just going straight to 88? I mean, 84. No, we can count that. And then I'm going to go
31:34 Jim Hines in 1968. Justin Gatlin, 2004, Athens. Maurice Green, 2000, Sydney. Carl Lewis, 88, in Seoul. Carl Lewis... 84, L.A.? 84, in L.A. Okay.
31:53 I was just making sure. I threw Jim Hines in there just in case you wanted to say I don't want heating. I just threw that in there, Ocho. I just threw that in there. Yeah. Well, technically,
32:03 because you ain't say Carl Lewis twice, you're wrong. I did? Ocho, don't do that. Ocho, you ain't said Carl Lewis twice you wrong don't do that see what I did I plugged in I longed in I done long gone now you let me plug the computer up
32:17 okay here we go number four yeah you ain't getting this one what seven events make up the heptathlon? The heptathlon. 800 meters. 800 meters
32:52 200 meters wait a minute listen to me now let me try again what seven events make up the heptathlon the heptathlon the heptathlon is the female
33:08 version of the decathlon which is 10 of man's the javelin seven I'm waiting on you okay so the 200 meters the 800 meters. 800, 200, javelin.
33:40 High jump. 100 meters. Long jump in the hurdles. No, yeah, long jump in the hurdles. That is absolutely wrong. The seven events that make up the heptathlon are the 60-meter sprint, the long jump, the shot put, the high jump, the 60-meter hurdles, the pole vault, and not the 800 meters, 1,000 meters. No, that's not true. The heptathlon? Yes. The heptathlon with Anna Hall before we ask these questions
34:29 we fact check everything before we put these questions in no they wouldn't if the hundred they don't do that no let me see so you gonna tell my computer that my computer is wrong
34:44 I know I'm right tell him tell him Let me see. So you're going to tell my computer that my computer's wrong? I know I'm right. Tell him, tell him. I apologize. Hold on, what a cord. Oh, Joe, I'm long gone. Oh, Joe. Yes, I'm right.
35:00 I'm long gone. I told you the other thing don't dial up. He cheating, he cheating. Hold on. Jack, y' cheating hold on I correct the computer who you think put the information in big blue that big IBM computer that spit out that information
35:16 who you think programmed it on choke damn fly in here man okay I'm gonna let you slide with that one Damn fly in here, man. Okay. I'm going to let you slide with that one. You ready?
35:33 I'm going to let you slide with that one. What you what? Three for four? I don't know. You know, I plugged in right now. How many you got? I'm going to let you see the tax score. How many you got wrong?
35:45 One. Okay. Missed that by a year. Alright. You ready for your last question? I'm ready. A Kenyan has won 800 meters in the last six of the last nine Olympics. Name the
36:02 three non-Kenyan runners and the nation they represent who won the other three yeah yeah in the Olympics that's what we talking about you said the last nine
36:18 a Kenyan has won the 800 meters in the last six of the last nine. So there are three that have won that haven't been Kenyon. Who are the runners
36:33 and what nation did they represent? Now you're talking about the nations. Now I got to give you the runners and the nations. That ain't bad. That ain't bad as them goddamn words you asked me to spell that the runners and the nation. Oh, you're really, yeah, that ain't, that ain't bad. Ain't bad as them. Goddamn question. The damn words you asked me to spell that I'd never heard before.
36:53 Yeah. Yeah. I don't even, I can't even know. I can't even know. I'm going to say, I must just throw some countries out there. I don't even know the names. Right. I'm going to say
37:16 Uganda, Ethiopia, and... Uganda, Ethiopia, and... I don't know. Yeah, you might as well just mark this one as wrong. Alright, three out of five ain't bad. Alright. The three non-Kenyan runners in the nation they represent were Norway's
38:05 Bajorn Rodal, Germany's Nils Schumann, and Russia's Yuri Ozovkowski. I never got that. Yeah, I know. I know. Just like I never get them damn words you ask me. All right, Ocho.
38:27 Our last segment of the day. Oh, that was good. It's called Q&A. Q&A. Oh my goodness, that was good. Bilbo underscore swaggers. Man, where Unc find these Akili in the BS words? Ocho say he trained Akili,
38:50 so I expected him to have all the asses. Hey, boy, that was classic. I ain't know none of that. That was funny. Rackroof said, y'all make sure y'all get some shade by Laporte. It's really good.
39:05 We made it the unofficial sponsor of our channel. Great job with that, Unc. Chad, don't forget us, brother. Way to represent the 305. Much love, guys. Appreciate that, bro. Appreciate your support, man.
39:18 Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Ocho, let Unc plan your bachelor party. Bachelor party? I plan your bachelor party. Bachelor party? I don't even party. I don't even celebrate my own birthday. I doubt I even have a bachelor party. All right. What you think? I mean, look,
39:39 if that's what you want to do, if that's not what you want to do, don't do it. I mean, listen, if it's something I've never done before... Because I got great ideas with your money. With who money? Your money. And your bachelor party. That's fine. That's fine.
39:55 As long as we're doing something I like to do. You know, anything that involves cigars, anything that involves, you know, live music, jazz, preferably. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cigars. I'm getting my Clinton on it's like a bachelor party does it always have to involve women no it's your night
40:18 I know this is your last night as a free man so if it's my last night as a free man does that mean I should do something that I wouldn't be able to do once I'm locked in? No, you can't do, look, don't do anything that is real fine out. That's going to be the shortest
40:33 marriage in history. Yeah, that ain't, that's not a good look. That's not a good look. Yeah. So, so, I don't think you're going to let me do that. Landy Ray said, hey guys, that's not a good look. Yeah. So, yeah.
40:46 Doc, I don't think you'll let me do that. Landy Ray said, Hey guys, what would you say your love language is? Physical touch, words of affirmation, quality time,
40:55 receiving gifts, acts of service. What's yours Ocho? Man, that's a good question, man. And I think this is, I'm glad you asked because I mean, I thinkla and I had this conversation and she told me like, damn, you are so easy to deal with because I don't want for nothing.
41:14 I'm so simple. I mean, you follow me, the chat, they follow me throughout the years. You follow me on social media and you can see how simplistic my lifestyle is. And I'm not really complicated by any means in my love language like but damn what would it be
41:33 and that's a good question you like gifts nah I don't really care for gifts baby yeah I don't really care. I don't really care for gifts. Baby! Yeah, I don't really care for no gifts. Hey, what is... Hold on, this is a good question. Now I really want to know the answer to this
41:52 because she's going to be able to say it right off the bat. Hold on. What'd she say okay okay she said she said attention yeah
42:21 attention attention attention and affection I know what yours was attention like you said when you didn't have anything as long as you
42:31 have something to occupy your time you're good but when you don't have anything to occupy your time you want her to be attentive to you that's why we had that problem the other day matter of fact i'm so glad you said that speaking of we got into it again what happened we got into it again
42:53 i i i bullshit you not and i'm not even playing it she right here um you know y'all have first watch out there where you at first watch yeah first watch it's like um like a denny's i hop a little bit more and i don't want to use the word upscale but a little more oh do he froze yeah so i mean i'm eating breakfast right yes i'm eating breakfast i get my normal i get my my french toast and i get my steak and eggs right right and i get my fruit bowl. So she called my phone. So I placed the phone up. I got the phone in my hand
43:28 and I'm eating my food. So I got my sunglasses. I got my sunglasses sitting on my head. My sunglasses fall by accident, right? Not by accident. And I put them back up real fast.
43:42 And the waitress was in front of me. Rail, rail, think somebody's sitting there. She say, hey, put him back up real fast. And the waitress was in front of me. Real, real thing. Somebody sitting at, she say, man, who in the fuck is that sitting in front of you? I know you're not fucking playing with me.
43:56 Put your glasses back down. So I took my glasses. I'm like, and I put them down on the table. She's like, Chad, don't you fucking play with me? Who in the hell? I hear you in the background. Real laughing. She think it's table. She's like, Chad, don't you fucking play with me. Who in the hell?
44:05 I hear you in the background real laughing. She think it's funny. She say, I say, Mike, what are you talking about? Turn the camera around. I turn the camera around. He didn't turn the camera around. Hold on, listen. I turn the camera around.
44:19 My plate of food is right there. My French toast, I had finished already, and I'm eating my steak and eggs. I'm like, man, what is your problem? then the waitress comes right back out right again and now the waitress nervous because she can hear a cursing and i'm confused rail you acting up like that it was it was it was so it was so embarrassing because i i didn't want to snap and the waitress was like the waitress got scared because she could hear a curs snap and the waitress was like, the waitress got scared because she could hear her cursing
44:46 so the waitress went away the first time and she came back to make sure everything was okay. That was the real, that was the real. Unc, I swear, she snapped.
44:56 Unc, she snapped. Real, you snapped on it for real, Real? I was like, put your glasses back down. It was, it looked like, No, no. Tell him how you did it.
45:03 Don't, don't, don't, don't laugh. Put your glasses back down. I didn't say Tell him how you did it. Don't laugh. Put your glasses back down. I didn't say that. Did you tell him he was playing in your face real? Don't fucking play in my face now. You better not be fucking
45:13 playing in my face. That's what I said. No, say how you said it. Say how you said it over the phone. Say it just how you said it. No. Man, she was talking to me
45:21 like I'm not even Ocho. Like she... We almost got into it but again she she apologized said i was sorry because when my glasses fell and they went back up she saw the the um reflection of the waitress sitting in front of me yeah right it was her and by the time i it dawned on me what she was talking about because she was confusing me because instead of just communicating and it dawned on me what she was talking about, because she was confusing me, because instead of just communicating and talking normal, she was screaming like she was my homeboy
45:49 and like she wanted to fight. I had a tone in my voice, but I don't scream. Man. I just had authority. But you wanted to let him know the seriousness of what you were saying. She was getting ahead. I was talking about, oh, I was going to pull up on you. Oh, I was going to pull up on you. I was about to pull up, baby.
46:09 Hey, that's about straight hood, straight out the hood. Out the hood. But sorry about that. I forgot to tell you about that story, man. Yeah, my bad. Mine is words of affirmation. Words of affirmation?
46:24 Yeah. So like reassurance in in other words yeah okay i appreciate you right appreciate what you do right love you you're great blah blah blah you work hard that's it that's it i've gotten really good because i've spent so much time being by myself right right right It ain't no quality time. It ain't nothing. I don't need no gifts. Hey, just say you appreciate me.
46:51 Yeah. Yeah. That's enough. Yeah. You celebrate your birthday? Not really. Yeah. So we the same.
46:59 I ain't celebrated my birthday in years. I think I told Ray when we first met, listen, I'm not in all that. In 1159, all I like to do is I like to say a prayer. The day of my birthday in years. I think, I told Ray when we first met, listen, I'm not in all that. In 1159, all I like to do
47:07 is I like to say a prayer. The day of my birthday, I go have me some coffee, Starbucks, or I go to my Cuban spot, my cafe in Olete, get me a cigar, a celebratory cigar.
47:16 Thank God for seeing another year. Boom, I'm good. I'm on a video game. She surprised me one time with my kids. That's why my mama, my text message
47:24 from my mama is still in my phone. I refuse to erase them. As long as I can keep them, I'm going to keep them there. The real plan something for me anyway. After I said, I don't want to do nothing.
47:34 She did all this planning. Guess who she got to invite? Your mama. Boy, my mama got win because it was just me Rel and my kids
47:47 the older kids everybody went there you know she just little small little intimate small get together real small
47:54 but she didn't invite my mama what my mama and her cuss real out were hey via text message and mind you the messages from my mama the messages from my mama after the message from my mama after my birth,
48:06 after my birthday and finding out that real and that bitch that didn't motherfuck. Oh man, she went off. And those, those, yeah. What?
48:15 My, my mama, hurricane Paula. Those are the last messages I have that she ever said. And I, I still got them saved. And it's about a, it's about a whole dissertation
48:26 of her snapping on all of us. She done wrote like two or three, she done taped two or three pages. Man, listen. But real, real, real didn't mean to do it because at the time, me and my mama, we weren't talking. Right.
48:38 We weren't even talking. And she didn't want to put you in a situation where she invited your mom. And you're like, who told you that? Yeah, exactly. And we weren't want to put you in a situation where she invited your mom. And you're like, who told you that? Yeah, exactly. And we weren't in a good space. And just in it. Oh, shit.
48:52 Let me get off that topic. But yeah, man. But I just thought about that. I'm going. The 17 shot king said, honestly, Chad should be a Hall of Famer. Andre Johnson is my guy. Stats very similar. Chad has less catches.
49:10 What do you think? Listen, Dre, man, Dre is one of the best all time. He's deserving of that. The Hall of Fame is cool. It is a great honor for those that do make it. But I think I'm going to be all right without it. I like my I like my my one on one jacket that nobody without it. I like my one-on-one jacket that nobody else got. I like
49:28 that one-on-one nobody else got. James Johnson said, hey, how good was Demarius Thomas? Well... DT was nice, boy. DT, yeah. He got it done with Tebow, so you know he was nice.
49:43 Yeah. I mean, you know, that was that little era where they had a stretch. It was him, Julio, AJ Green. What's up? Dance. That was that stretch like 2012 to 2000 Dance, you know,
50:09 2012 to 2016. DT was at the peak of his power. When he got Peyton, Yeah. He got ugly. That was that 55 TD year yeah
50:26 yeah and you know Peyton first year he was 37 and 11 and then the next year what did he have the next year he went 55 and 10 and then he had another 30 he had a 39 touchdown
50:42 thing yeah DT was, DT was. Nice. He was special, man. He was, he was special. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary.
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51:52 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that
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53:11 Jasmine Harness and Uncle Nocho, what's the one thing you would want your fans to remember you after you're gone? One thing your kids never forget. I always remain authentically myself, regardless of circumstance, regardless of how big I got, regardless of how much money I had. I never, ever, ever, ever change.
53:34 Ever. No. I'm the same person I was before the league. I was the same person while I was in the league. I'm the same person when I left the league. Never changed, no matter what. Ever. Yeah, A.B. was in that mix too.
53:51 A.B. was at the peak of his power. He had a good six, seven year run, boy. That was nasty. A nasty run. 100 plus catches, 1,400 yards, double digit touchdown. I think he had a 1,400 yards. Double digit touchdown. Yeah.
54:06 I think he had a 1,700 yard season. He had a couple of 120, 130 catch seasons. Oh, yeah. A, B, and B was. Crazy. You know. Yeah.
54:18 Oh, my goodness. I'm really simple, Ocho. Good brother. Good son. Good brother. I'm, I'm really simple. Joe, good brother, good son, good brother, good son, good dad, good friend.
54:37 All that. I mean, if you want to say, well, man, he played with Broncos. He was good. He talked a lot.
54:43 I'm really simplistic in that i just i treat people how i want to be treated uh i cared sometimes i think i cared too much i think the mistake that i make is that everybody that i'm gonna meet is gonna care as much about me as i care about them and that's my first mistake but i'm not gonna change i just i'm still gonna care about people but i have to be really really careful now ocho right because everybody doesn't everybody doesn't have shannon's best interest and people keep saying like oh shannon bro but you can't you got to because it's taken me 56 years to build this reputation to get here. I can't get back here again.
55:27 Oh no. Somebody knocked me off. So you have to be very, very careful, very mindful of who you let into your circle. Now it's extra, extra layers that you have to get through to. And I ain't trying to have any more friends on Joe.
55:42 Right. I'm really, I'm really not. I've vetted think about how long it's taken me to vet Burns and vet Bucket and vet the guys that's in my life I don't have that kind of time now yeah
55:52 my kids hopefully they appreciate what I've done what I've tried to do I'm not perfect I don't claim to be perfect and I told them I'm not perfect. I don't claim to be perfect. And I told them I'm not perfect and they're not going to be perfect. Hopefully my brother and sister appreciate me.
56:14 No, I worked hard. I loved them. And a lot of what I did and they raised me. My brother and sister, where our relationship is a lot different than most brothers and sisters because they're like my mom. He's like my dad, because my sister bathed me.
56:29 My sister got me ready for school. She got me ready for church. My brother taught me what it's like to be a man. Taught me how to shine. You know, my grandfather taught him how to shine shoes. My brother taught me how to shine shoes. He let me do things that probably he shouldn't let me do.
56:45 Go chop down a tree. let me shoot the gun when he wasn't supposed to. So my brother and sister, our relationship is a lot different than most brothers and sisters. So hopefully they appreciate the man that I became. Hopefully my mom is proud of the son that she gave birth to. I know my mom did everything she possibly could to make sure my brother and sister and I had whatever she could afford to give us.
57:16 I appreciate that. I'm most thankful for my mom sending me, my brother and sister to our grandparents. I think that was her other than delivering three healthy kids. I think that was her biggest accomplishment. And people that I played with or I interacted with. Hopefully you enjoyed me as much as I enjoyed you. So. That's it.
57:50 Loyalty over dinero. I have a question. I've seen my boy's fiance with another guy at the movies. Should I tell him, even though we don't speak no more, they're getting married soon? Don't let him go down that dead end. But he said they don't speak no more. I don't Yeah. Don't let him go down there. Don't let him go down there dead end. But he said they don't speak no more.
58:05 I don't give a... I don't care. Don't let that man go down there dead end. Don't do that. Don't do that. Put your pride aside. Put your ego aside. If y'all don't speak no more,
58:14 hey, what's up? I know we don't talk no more, buddy, but I seen your people, right? You take it for what you want. People like that move a file. All right, boom. But you know he gonna go back and tell. He gonna go back and tell
58:29 or Ocho told me he saw you at the movie with another guy. That's fine. That's fine. And you should have said no when you put that ring on that finger if you chose to be doing things that single people do.
58:42 I ain't gonna lie. What happened? Ocho, if it ain't Burns or Bucket or Sterling Sharp I'm keeping my mouth shut yeah I have seen it I've done it nah fuck that that ain't my place your place is not
59:00 first thing you gonna do y'all gonna get back together y'all gonna stay together back together. Y'all going to stay together. Who's staying together? I'm saying the couple. Shit. They're going to stay together. They stay together.
59:13 And then everybody looking at me sideways talking about, oh, he jealous and all that. Yeah, and he tried to break us up. She said that was her friend. No. Not a chance to hear anybody stay. you out in public with somebody else. Who the hell finna stay? I don't see that happen.
59:32 And they stay? Yeah. What? Man, look here. I ain't going to get too far into it, but I had a situation where the chick blamed me that he got somebody pregnant. Why's she blaming you?
59:50 Talk about, I was out with him and I'm the more mature one and I knew he had a girl. She did everything but take accountability, huh? Blame me? Yeah yeah that's one thing I'm thinking to myself I didn't put that man meeting up
01:00:11 I ain't spoke to her and we never spoke again shaking my head because what happened was he said he was with me and so forth and so on.
01:00:35 Oh, okay, okay. Damn. It happens, don't you? So I learned my lesson from that on. I said, bro, if it ain't Bucket of Burns or my brother, I'm going to call.
01:00:52 If it's Bucket of Burns, I'm calling. Hey, bro, meet me up here at such and such. Oh, yeah. We might run down on the boy before the next question tonight is one of those our nightcap staffers birthday happy birthday
01:01:15 Jacob Hazard he turned 31 years old today happy birthday happy birthday bro hey that work in are you responsible for graphics you in graphics Are you responsible for graphics? You in graphics? Hope you ain't in graphics. It's SX Savage. What's your favorite thing about Ocho?
01:01:36 Ocho, what's your favorite thing about Ocho? My favorite thing about Ocho is the thing that when I thought about putting Nightcap together, me and Jamie Horowitz were sitting down, and I told him to Perth, I said, I want Ocho. He's like, Ocho? Ocho Cinco? I'm like, yeah. He said, why? I said, because he doesn't take himself serious.
01:01:58 I said, if the show is going to be what I think it can be, although I didn't know we were going to go here where we are now. Yeah. I said, I need someone to not take things too serious. I see he's I'm the, I'm the more serious. I say,
01:02:11 we can't have two guys that joke all the time and we can't be both serious. So one of us has to be the Yang. The other guy to be Yang. Yeah. And sometime Yang and sometime Yang. I said, but he's him.
01:02:24 What you see is what you get. He's Ocho. That's why you say, man, why you say that? I say, because you Ocho. And he is. I love. He has a big heart. He cares.
01:02:38 But he's silly. Yeah, it works. Can't take life too serious. It works. It works. It works. yeah it works can't like can't take can't take life too serious it works it works it works i mean i don't think i don't think any other i don't think any other partner even if i was what i you know tell the stories that i tell and we joke around like we do i don't think it would play as well with anybody else as it does with Ochoa. Nah, not at all. For me, man, it's dope because I've always wanted to be in the space, in the spaces and be in the rooms that you've been able to walk in and do some of the things that you've done.
01:03:19 So being able to work with you is giving me somewhat a little bit of guidance, which has been fun on how to carry myself, how to conduct myself, how to be more of a, like you say, how I don't take things seriously. It's kind of, in a sense, watching how you operate and how you maneuver to get where I want to be. Another part of you, the discipline you have, the structure you have is something that I don't have. I have discipline discipline instruction in certain areas, but where I'm trying to get to and the vision that I see myself later on down, down the line, as far as people taking me serious, hell, I need a team of people. I need to add, I need a Jordan. You get what I'm saying? I'm do, I do everything on my own. You know, obviously I have Doug and Ryan, but watching how you operate and maneuver has been
01:04:05 huge and tremendous for me and i've been doing that since i've been working with you watching from afar on how you do things so it's been helping me and i and i and the way you move has obviously been helped me too in my goddamn relationship with this one you know because boy hey boy's hell boy's hell over here, man. You know? So I'm thankful. I can tell. Yeah, yeah. Boy, shh. It's been great.
01:04:31 It's been great for me. And we got a long way to go. We haven't even scratched the surface yet. That's the scary part. Yeah. We didn't even scratch the surface yet. Ocho, if you want to go fast, go alone. But if you want to go far, take your team. So start outlining what you want to do, what you want to go far, take your team. So
01:04:45 start outlining what you want to do, what you want to accomplish, and then put the pieces in position to get that done. Dr. Frank L. Bellman said, tune in to Rell's new podcast August 7th. Humble Baddies. That's Rell. She got a thing with
01:05:01 her homies. I'm excited for that congratulations Rel to you and your partners and doing your thing talk about humble you just cursed me out a few days ago like I was some little bum on the street but I wish you could have heard it
01:05:18 you would have been like man who the hell is this yeah see this is the side y'all don't get to see oh yeah everybody got that side talk about who everybody got that girl who is that girl sitting in front of you mind you i i hit i told her real common sense i'm sitting in public i live in miami everybody know who the hell i am so i'm sitting outside and they know they know and all somebody gotta do is just snap a picture and post it boom it's everywhere but I'm sitting outside with somebody
01:05:45 like are we using common sense and logic please are we no okay good that's about it boy I ain't got cussed out like that since my mama left guys thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap
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01:07:06 The USA beat Belgium 87-74. Gabby, not Gabby. What's her name? Simone Biles became a two-time Olympic all-around champion. And Jordan, I think Charles, no, was it Charles or Suni Lee? Suni Lee won the bronze medal. So we won the gold
01:07:32 and the bronze. Feel good about that. So congratulations to those ladies. When we're back again? Tomorrow? Saturday. Saturday. Saturday, what day? Saturday. Saturday. Saturday oh so we're on at 3
01:07:49 right Ash okay we're back we're back Saturday at 3pm 3 got a couple special guests stopping by hopefully for that show so thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite Got a couple of special guests stopping by, hopefully, for that show.
01:08:07 So thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite, number 85, the rock runner extraordinaire, the bingo ring of fame honoree, the pro bowler, the all pro, the Liberty City's legend, Chad Ochocinco Johnson. Thank you again, ladies and gentlemen, for joining in Nightcap. I'm Unc. He's Ocho, we're out. The Volume.
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