Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Caleb Williams talks trash, Spencer Rattler's reputation hurts his draft stock

Episode Date: April 28, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Caleb Williams trash-talking via text and Spencer Rattler falling in the draft. Then, they play Spell-o-Cinco and Dunk on Unc before answering questions from the chat. 0:00 Caleb Williams sends cold blooded text to Bears punter7:30 - Spencer Rattler falls due to reality show23:00 Deshaun trade complete24:00 Cowboys-Zeke reunion?29:00 Spell-o-Cinco38:00 Dunk on Unc57:00 Q and Ayyy #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Caleb Williamson, a cold-blooded thanks to the Bears kicker, newter after he was drafted. After hitting multiple home runs over the first couple of days in the 2024 draft, the Chicago Bears drafted former Iowa punter

Torrey Taylor in the fourth round. Taylor said he already received a text from Caleb Williams, says, hey, you're not going to punt much this year. Williams' confidence clearly knows no bounds. I like it. Come on, we got all these young fellas, man,

coming out here talking that talk. The last one I think to remember to say something like that and it's still backing up to this day was Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase said, I'm going to Cincinnati and I'm going to break every record.

And he stood ten toes about going about breaking every record. Oh, you had to make it two records. Keon Coleman, who is also from Louisiana, came out talking that stuff, and I guarantee you his play is going to match the way he's talking.

Caleb Williams, he done texted a pun already. Why don't you worry about it, boy? You ain't gonna... You ain't gonna... Boy, that's crazy. Ocho, that's crazy, ain't it? Do you see what he got to work with, though? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see... You ain't go Boy that's crazy Ocho that's crazy ain't it How do you guys

Do you see what he got Do you see what he got To work with though Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah You see Aduze And Keenan Allen And DJ Moore

Cold command DJ Moore How do you say Young Bull name From UW I want to say it The wrong way Aduze

And stop playing Pun what Pun who Pun Alright Man I'm man I'm excited I'm excited to see the Bears offense

if Caleb talking like that he mean business cause you gotta understand the quarterback position the quarterback position doesn't do that yeah he definitely needs to have confidence

they don't they don't do that it's frowned upon it's frowned upon so him for him to even allow this to get out he wanted out on purpose i like

it well i like it not publicly because normally i like it normally i know what you go i know what you're gonna say normally the quarterbacks they do show a lot of confidence but normally it stayed within the walls always because we we going back and forth. John talking, oh, y'all not going to get anything today. Somebody battled the ball down. Yeah. Oh, he hot. Hey, team, come on. I'm like, man, I just, no, it's hot. He said,

no, come on. So now I got to go out there and redeem because they talking trash. So now I got to go out there, me, Rod, and we got to go out there and cook somebody. Yeah, yeah. How did y'all do in practice y'all did ones on twos or ones on ones sometimes

we did ones on ones in um in um in two minutes in two minutes yeah okay move the ball two minutes stuff like that

right sometimes in the red zone yeah yeah okay but normally we did we did uh ones on

ones on um uh a lot of times yeah even on we did, we did ones on, ones on, a lot of times, yeah, even on nine on seven, we did ones on twos. Now early on in training camp, you know, it's one versus ones.

Oh yeah, yeah. Training camp. You were, you were, you were in shorts. Y'all was in shorts and helmet too, right?

In the second practice, in the first practice, we couldn't. Practice in full pads. Yeah. Yeah. I had some fun. Hey, hold on, hold on.

What about training camp? Y'all linemen always got in the fights? The linemen always fighting in training camp? Okay, okay. Look here, bro. Y'all got to stop this

because I know y'all because coach, you catch on quick. Y'all try to get out of practice. By fighting? Start a fight on purpose so you get out of there?

Uh-huh. Mike said, when y'all done fighting, y'all took 15 minutes. We adding that on the practice. That's not the fight. That's not the fight. You know what's funny?

Every year, they have joint practices. And every year, there's always a fight. And the media act like, oh my God, it's something new. Like, come on, man. No. Come on, man. Because you'll let a little stuff go, Ocho. If it's my teammate, I'll let a little shove go.

I'll let you grab my face, man. I'm not going to let you do that because the first time you think, you think you can get in the game and really do that. So that ain't going to happen. Right, right, right. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. You know what's funny?

Most of the time, the scuffles that happen in practice and training camps with joint practices, you know you never see that in the game because you already know you're in a game situation and you're not going to throw a punch. You're not going to pull nobody's face mask. I mean, the last time we saw something like that where someone actually threw a punch

and just really didn't care was Young Bull. Young Bull that was with the Bears. Remember? Oh, yeah. When he slapped a dude from the Saints. Yeah, he walked all the way around to get in his face and really like,

nigga, drove back and took off. Yeah. Like, that was personal. That was personal. If I'm not mistaken, that was Gardner Johnson that he did that to. It was?

I think so. Gardner has a little nephew now. He'll get up under your skin now. Well, he didn't get that one. He took that one. He took that one. He took that one. He got up under his skin. It's called mental warfare, mental gymnastics.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You got to have tough skin out there. Yeah. Now you're throwing out the game, and now the Eagles got the edge. He was in what you call, remember, he was with the Saints then, if I'm not mistaken. I think that was Gardner Johnson then. I think that was the one,

the play that you're talking about where the guy ran down there and he was like... Dude, receiver from the Bears. I can't remember his last name. I think he was number 83. That's all I can remember. I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah. He took off on it. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Josh Norman and Odell. Oh, yeah, it. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Josh Norman and Odell.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Akeem Tlaib and Michael Crabtree. Oh, yeah. Akeem, Deebo, though, boy. Yeah, yeah. But see, none of those got thrown out. Those are just little, little, little spats.

I call them little spats. Those aren't worthy of getting thrown out the game. That's high emotion, middle of the game, getting after it. They cleaned it up. They had to. Go back there. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was the Rams. I think it not was the Rams.

It was the Raiders and the Chiefs. Wait, they had one then? Man, Sean Jones took a new helmet off and was swinging his helmet. We tried to hit him upside the head with his helmet. Wait, what year was this? The 80s. Wait, you're talking about Kyle Turley. No, no, I ain't talking about Kyle Turley.

I'm talking about, I think it was like in the 80s, like 84, 85. It's the Raiders and the Chiefs. I'm almost certain of it. He took his helmet off? He tried to hit him with it? He sure did. In the middle of a game? Just like Miles Garrett.

Remember when Miles Garrett hit on the quarterback? Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Mason Rudolph. It was a different game back then. They would get you they'd get your ass up out of there. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. Mason Rudolph. It was a different game back then.

They would get your ass up out of there. They didn't play. They done changed the rules now. They done made it so cost prohibitive to do things like that, Ocho. But they would cheap shot your quarterback. They'd knock your quarterback out of the game. They'd hurt your quarterback. On purpose?

Yes. With no repercussions? They say you did what you did on purpose. That's why they looked at it. Oh, they wanted retribution. Oh, absolutely. Oh, y'all, they was crazy back then, right? Why you think they changed the rule unabated to the quarterback?

Yeah, yeah. Bruce Smith knocked Boomer Sison out of the game. He jumped the count. Hit it right up on his chin. Go back and look it up. Wait, he jumped the count and didn't slow down? Because they used to have

unabated to the quarterback. He kept going. That's why they have unabated to the quarterback rules now. Oh, man, that's messed up. Go back and look at when Greek,

that might have been 86 when I think it was Martin for Green Bay. A late hit. McMahon, Jim McMahon, Jim McMahon threw the ball was standing there. He got it. I'll drive him into the dirt. I know Jim got up. I know Jim got up.

Man, you may get up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was hurt. Knock his ass out the game. Jimmy get up. Oh, you were hurt? Yeah, I was hurt. Knocked his ass out of the game. But you remember, hey, you remember when Deion and Andre Rising got into it? Now, hey.

Andre Johnson and Cortland Finnegan? That's a classic. Yeah, that was a classic moment. Andre Johnson and Cortland, they was, hey, Andre was throwing haymakers. Yeah, he was hot. And you know, Dre don't talk now. Dre's quiet. Nope, nope, he doesn't.

I done known Dre all my life since he was at Miami High. Yeah. I could probably say I done heard Dre talk maybe 10 times. 10 times. I done known him since high school now. Right. So Cortland had to say something to do something just like C. gardner johnson did with buddy from the bears yep buddy from the bears really had to to get people that are normally quiet and don't say nothing to get up under their skin you got to be really talking some crazy talk man aj green and

then jaylen ramsay oh jaylen ramsay yeah yeah yeah hey hey i think i might have heard A.J. Green talk maybe three times at that. He don't talk at all. He quiet. Quiet. But you know Jalen talk now. Jalen going to talk to y'all game. He going to get up on your skin. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Oh, that's classic. Oh, Joe. Spencer Rattler fell in the draft due to the reality show. It took it to the fifth round for Spencer Rattler to come off the draft board, drafted by the Saints with a 150 overall pick. And the decision he made years ago in high school is to blame for that. Rattler's participation in Netflix, QB1,

Beyond the Lights, and how he came off in that topic, that number of teams was stuck on. Ian Rappaport said, Spencer Rattler did a reality show in high school. It did not make him look great. It was unbelievable how many different teams mentioned to me the image of him

in that show and how they can't get that out of their heads. Albert Breer said the show came up just about every conversation about Rattler, even though the coaches at South Carolina told NFL teams that he had matured significantly since then. You know what? It's hard for me to comment

on that because I didn't i didn't see the show i'm not sure how the show depicted him as a as a quarterback in high school but spencer rattler if i'm not mistaken i me as a gm as a scout and you've always told me you i have to understand the amount of money that these teams are getting ready to invest in these players so they go back to your past because i mentioned to you before when it was time for me to get drafted i went second round obviously there were many red flags because i went to 337 schools just to get to oregon state but i went in the second round and they went back to my elementary teachers just to talk you know to ask questions

and i'm like really What does that have to do with me playing the game of football? Because when you turn the film on, you know what you're getting. When you turn the film on, you know what you're getting. Turn on the film when it comes to Spencer Rattler. As a team, you know what you're getting. Obviously, the Saints have him now. And I hope, I hope Spencer Rattler finds a way to make the team, the other 31 teams that pass on him, pay for that. I'm not sure when his opportunity might present itself,

but when it does, I hope he uses this as a chip on his shoulder, uses it as leverage, uses it as motivation, whatever it may be, and turn it into a positive. It's not an accident, Ocho.

When you fill out a resume, excuse me, an application, what do they ask for? References. Why do they want that? Yeah, they want somebody to vouch for you one way or another. Oh, he's a great, hey, he was a model, he was a model co-worker,

always on time, very courteous, very polite, or he's an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's messed up, man. It is. That's why you have to be careful like cosigning.

Because I don't set nobody up on no blind date. Hey, Shannon, you got any single friends? Nope. As a matter of fact, I ain't got no friends. I said all my friends run rabbits and eat booty out of garbage. All my friends dog. So no, I ain't setting you up because guess

what? I set you up, it goes afoul. Guess what they're going to say? Shannon, you set it up. You set it up. Yep. No, find your own man. And if it goes awry, it's your fault. Oh, right. No, hell no. And I ain't about co-signing?

Nope. Co-signing me. If you miss a payment, who got to pay for that, Ocho? Yeah. Or you mess up my credit. Nah. Yeah.

If I vouch for you, if I vouch, Yeah. Ain't a whole lot of people. I'm putting my name behind. I ain't going to even lie to you, Ocho. Ain't no sense in me lying to you. You can get on here and say, oh yeah, I'll be... No, hell nah. You can vouch for people. I'm putting my name behind. I ain't going to even lie to you, Yocho. Ain't no sense in me lying to you. You can get on here and say,

oh yeah, I'll be... No, hell nah. You can vouch for me. I'm good. I'm good for whatever, man. I'm good, you know. You done got better. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Listen, my resume speaks for itself. If you need references when it comes to me, I got many of people you can ask. You see, that's the thing. Listen, it's about... Hold on. It's about 24,000 of them in the got many people you can ask. Hold on. It's about 24,000 of them in the chat right now. They're asking about me. They need

a little bit more intimate knowledge of you. They have 13, 14 years of knowledge from following me on Twitter. Listen, I think maybe- You just told me Twitter wasn't real. You told me social media wasn't real. That wasn't me. I didn't say that.

So that's real. I didn't say that. So everything we see on Twitter- Wait, wait, wait. Let me tell you what I said. Yeah, get that. I said some of the people on social media can give you a perception of a life and you can lie about who you are. You can be whoever you want on social media.

How do we know who those people are? How we know you're not one of those people? Because if people on social media had met me in person and the way I am on social media is the exact same way I am in person. Nothing changes.

How many times do we see you? When I see you, I'm going to tell you I love you. Matter of fact, sometimes I curse. I'm going to say I fucking love you. You got to give me a hug, I'm going to tell you I love you. Matter of fact, sometimes I curse. I'm going to say I fucking love you. You got to give me a hug and I'm going to act like I've known you for 30 years.

Now, Eddie, I'm sure somebody in the chat has met me and I've done this countless times to people and I invade their space. Because if you're going to bother me, if you're going to bother me, you're going to take the time

not to bother me. I'm going to act like we know each other. How about this? Because I want that. I want it to be memorable because I might not see you again. How many people thought they knew Tiger Woods?

Well, nobody because Tiger Woods runs with the 1%. You saw him at the golf tournament. You saw all this thing. How well do we really know people? When it comes down to it when we strip everything away

and we're not with that person every single day of their life and even when you're with that person every day, how well, because we've seen people, well, I didn't know he was like that. I didn't know he had that side. He had never shown. She had never shown. So when it comes down to it, Ocho, how well do we really know the people that we think we know? Well, you know, what's funny is you never, ever, ever really know. You never know who somebody really is. Two things.

Until you tell them no. Until you see them angry. So you thought you knew that person, then you told them no. Until you tell them no. Some of your best friends. And I know people in the chat, I know you can attest to this. You never know who somebody is. I don't care how long you've known them

until you tell them no. And they forget all the yeses throughout the years. But that one time you tell them no, oh, it's a problem. Until you see them angry. And so you're true colors every time. And you add a little alcohol, add a little alcohol to that,

oh, they'll tell you everything. Well, see, that's the thing. See, but what alcohol does is that it changes your morals. It doesn't change your character. You are who you are. You know, it breaks down those

inhibitions. Because what you do while you're drunk, you thought about while you were sober. Everything that you say while you're drunk, you thought about while you were sober. Everything that you say while you're drunk, you thought about while you were sober. Come on. They don't want that truth. They don't want that truth, Ocho. They don't want that truth.

What? That's what it does. Because here's the thing, Ocho, I guarantee you right now, you and I can go somewhere. We go in the airport, we're in the mall. We sign 1,000 autographs each. The. We go in the airport, we're in the mall. We sign a thousand autographs each. The moment we

don't sign 1,001, assholes. Shadow Sharper, Chad Johnson, Ocho Cinco didn't sign my autograph. But what about the thousand people that we did sign? I mean, so... But that was a good one, boy. That was a good one. No, it doesn't enhance your character.

Your character is what it is. It's what it is. A lot of times people say, well, he got drunk and he started a fight at the bar. Right. No, that's in him. That's in him. That's in him.

You are what you are. Yeah. You know, I like that. The you are what you are is throughout life in general. When it came to dating, for instance,

I would always ask, I always curiosity about someone's past. Because I want to know because what it lets me know is is if you're able to do this to x y and z yeah for sure I'm really I'm really yeah I'm really no different because at some point you know the cycle it repeats itself no matter what so if you do this with x y z so I have to understand and I have the ability to compartmentalize and manage my expectations. No matter how good the times

are. No matter how good the times are, history always repeats itself. I don't want to know you at your best. I want to see you at your worst. Because that's when you're

going to reveal who you actually are to me. Come on now because see that way if you go back and look at the bible see what did the devil tell god he said you give job everything look at his family look at the livestock that he had he said when you remove that hedge from around it because you've been protecting him with and what you gave him everything for if you remove that he will curse his very maker. So if I give somebody everything, that doesn't tell me who she or he

is. Because that's what the devil told God. If you remove the head, Job will curse you. He said, no, he won't. He said, you can do everything you want to him, but take his life. What happened? Y'all Bible scholars, y'all know what happened.

What did he do? And he gave it to him tenfold. Yeah. So when somebody tells me, oh, I don't want to know how you are at your best. I need to see you at your worst. At your worst. Come on, preacher. And you wonder, we just had that conversation again about loyalty.

And I told you, and I tell you again, I'm going to say it again for the people in the chat. Everybody is loyal when there's opportunity and convenience when they meet. Now, allow the circumstances to change and let's see how loyal that person is. That's it. Allow the circumstances of convenience and the opportunity that you're presenting, allow the change, and let's see how loyal that individual is.

All right. I ain't telling you. What you be saying? I ain't telling you what I know. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.

Yeah, and that's fact. That's fact. Everybody. I heard a man say the other day, he said, there's a reason why a sports car, he says, but as you start to travel, people will start to fall off. He say, that's why a sports car has two seats and a bus has 50.

Don't let that go over your head now. Don't let it go now. Don't let it go. Come on now. Think about it. I remember when I had, had man I had a boat boot cool everybody was cool with Shannon as long as everybody was right here

I didn't have no more than anybody else I got a little bit more boot somebody left got a little bit more somebody left oh he think he better since when because now all of a sudden I don't think it's cool to do some of the stuff that we were doing.

And I say, you know what? I want to get my grandmother and my family out of this environment. Now I think I'm better? Yeah. Oh, in other words, you always felt like this. This ain't new. You've been felt like this.

You just needed for a reason for it to come out. And so now that all of a sudden, I'm a little better than you in sports, I'm about to get a scholarship. I don't do all the other stuff that y'all doing. Now y'all going to try to flip it on me. My high school basketball team tried to vote me off the team. Not for something that I did.

They did a story on me in the Savannah Morning News. And if y'all don't believe the story, y'all go look it up. They did a story on me in the Savannah Morning News. And if y'all don't believe the story, y'all go look it up. They did a story on me. My coach says I stress the team concept. But if we're a car, Shannon is the motor. They had a meeting and tried to vote me off the team. Even my best friend was in on it. And coach said, no, he didn't say anything.

I said it. So why y'all mad at him? You see, as long as we would get the same shine, everything was cool. Oh, the team, blah, blah, blah, boom, boom, boom, boom. But the moment the coach said, I stressed the team concept, but Shannon's the engine. They voted. Votedanna's the engine. They voted. Voted.

Ain't called me. And get what they're saying. But they can't call you if they're trying to vote you off. Yeah, we voted you off the team. How y'all gonna vote me for what? For what he said? Damn. Hey, you was the best player, huh?

Was I? I'm the best player ever come out of glenville come on talk man close oh do what when talk now man they better stop they knew it i mean god god gave me physical gifts that i didn't take as, as serious, uh, uh, because I was so much better than everybody else. Right. Once I got to college, I took it serious, but yes,

I was the best on the team. Absolutely. But it wasn't nothing. I didn't do anything wrong. Oh, Joe, I was cool. You know,

I was cool with all, but as soon as that light got a little bright on shannon yeah man i say but but that that was the time that i realized that you know what i ain't gonna have a whole lot of friends because you got to realize in a small town hell y'all in the same home room damn near from from k through 12 all the way yeah yeah i mean hell we only had 353 students in our school, high school. My graduating class was 60. Hell, I knew damn near everybody from five years old all the way to 18. I knew damn near everybody.

So we done played in the sandbox together, the swings. We done played, you know. And now this? I said, oh, man, y'all full of. Happen every time. Yeah. It's all good. Hey, I came in by myself. I ain't no twin. I ain't no

triplet. Same. That's why my circle's so small. It's always been that way. Always been that way. I don't know what they're thinking. We ain't gonna be your friend no more. I lose a friend by a dog. Why you think I got three dogs, four dogs? I keep it moving.

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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.

I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, after today, the 2022 Texas Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete. The Browns received Deshaun Watson 2024 sixth round pick included in the Jerry Judy trade. The Texas received first round pick that became Kenyon green. Fourth round pick became Damian Pierce. 2023 first round pick became Will Anderson Jr. Defensive rookie of the year.

Excuse me. 2023 third round pick that became Tank Dale. The 2024 first round pick. They Tank Dale. The 2024 first round pick, they traded back with Minnesota. They took the second round pick, Kamari Lassiter. Kamari? Kamari. Kamari Lassiter.

In 2024 sixth round pick, Jamal Hill. 2024 fourth round pick became Caden Bullock. Houston made that pretty good. Very. Especially with Will Anderson and Tank Dale. Tank Dale special. Yeah. Remember Damian Pierce was running

that thing until his ankle got hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damian was running that thing. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. But Tank, but Will Anderson and Tank was, I'm talking about special. Special. Special. Yeah. Ooh, they got a rost over there, boy.

They did. I'm talking about offensively. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the addition of Diggs, Tank Daly be back. Nico Collins. Tank was killing before he got hurt. You got to keep them feet moving around the power. He going to know now.

Keep them feet moving. You know what I got? And Nico. And Dalton Sch now. Keep them feet moving. You know what I got? And Nico. And Dalton Schultz. Yep. Man. The Dallas Cowboys have yet to feel their running back need, but the return of Ezekiel Elliott looks more and more likely.

Jerry Jones asked Friday whether or not drafting a running back during the first three rounds was more about the draft and falling or the Cowboysboys comfort level with what they have on the roster. First of all, the draft is not over. That's the thought. And it's a long time before running back was taken off today's draft. But we're also keenly interested in seeing what the future might

look like for Zeke. Jones said he still believes Zeke can be a starting level running back. You like it? Yeah. I thought, look, clearly Zeke wasn't giving you $15 million worth of production.

But what he could do is that around the goal line, he could bull his way into the end zone. On third and fourth and short, he could keep your offense on the field. So there was value

zeke always had value but not 15 million dollars worth of it right right right he's a leader the guys like playing with him uh guys like blocking for him so i would like to see him i'd like to see him come back yeah i would too listen he was he beloved also not just by not just by his teammates the community the fans yeah obviously i think they were they were sad to see him go and he had that he had to go obviously you know how the nature of the business is very cutthroat it's very cutthroat not one to pay obviously so now you come back on what i like to call the hometown discount because they're not going So now you come back on what I like to call a hometown discount because they're not going to give you

what they feel you're worth, but they're going to give you what they think you deserve. What you will accept. Yeah, that too, what you will accept. But listen, it's very difficult right now, especially we understand how teams are doing the quarterback position

and it's not as valued as it once was, being that now the game has changed tremendously where everything is all about putting the ball in the air. And plus, and plus, Ocho,

the thing is that Dallas, you know, Dallas selling point is like, you know, there's no state taxes here. So you factor that in on a hundred million dollar contract.

And so you're going to keep at least 10%. So that in on a $100 million contract. Oh, yeah. And so, you're going to keep at least 10%. So, that's at least $10 million in your pocket. Yeah. Yeah. So, Ocho, passenger on board the Spirit Airline flight

from Atlanta to Newark were horrified to see a liquid spilling out of a plane laboratory. I saw that. Mm-hmm. So, I'm trying to see. This is what people, listen. This is how things get misconstrued.

They talk about a liquid. Unless that's coffee. Listen, that ain't coffee. What that is, is somebody, somebody in the bathroom took toilet paper and flushed it down the toilet when it clearly says do not flush any items

and they cause it to overflow. And they cause it to overflow. Whoa, what's your thing? That ain't nothing but water and whoever posted that video trying to act like, oh, it's a liquid. The toilet over flooded.

It happens at everybody's house when you have somebody over and they put too much tissue in your shit and they clog everything up. Nah, don't... You ain't coming to... Hey,

you ain't using the bathroom in my house. Go to the gas station. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on now. Come on. You don't let people do number two in your house?

Nah, I know about it. Unc, you can't do that. What you come to my house for to go to the bathroom? You should have left to use the bathroom before you left home. Unc, that's a part of, that's a part of human nature.

You don't know. That's why I don't feed people at my house. Hunk, you can't do that. You can't do that. You can't. Go buy some cookies at the convenience store. I wonder how the chat feel about that. If people come over to your house?

Do y'all have a problem with people coming to your house and doing number two? Oh, yeah. At my place, I have air freshener. I got baby wipes. Yeah, I got all that, too. That's for me, though. No, that's for the people that are visiting your place. Ain't nobody coming over but Ash and Jordan.

Okay, well, Ash and Jordan might have to do number two. You need air freshener. You need baby wipes. You need, make sure you have heated toilet seats. What about the guest house? I didn't go to the guest house. Why would they be in the guest house? You got a guest house? I do.

Well, you got a different kind of money over there, boy. I got a guest house, God. Nah, I'm about to get up off it. I'm about to get up off it. Okay. Okay. Ocho. Yo.

It's back. Who? The favorite segment. Spello. Cinco. Oh, hold on. I got to change my hat. Hold on there.

I got to change my hat. I got to change my hat. Okay, Ocho. The first word. Hold on. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me mentally get ready now. Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

Let me mentally chat. Put your hands together, get your hands. Yeah, yeah, let me, let me mentally get ready. Chat, y'all get ready, chat. This is, this is, this is for y'all. This is for y'all. I'm telling you, this is for y'ya, ay-ya, ay-ya. All right. Another next... Okay. Okay. Let's go. Aardvark. Aardvark.

Aardvark. People also call it an anteater. Aardvark. Aardvark. Aardvark. People also call it an anteater. Aardvark. A-R-V-A-R-K. A-Aardvark. A-R-V-A-R-K. It's A-A-R-D-V-A-R-K.

Aardvark. So I spelled it right. No, you didn't. It's A-A-R-D-V-A-R-K. Oh, I didn't I spelled it right? No, you didn't. It's A-A. Oh, I didn't add the extra A. No, you didn't. Oh, come on. Man, you really going to, come on, man.

Yeah, that's kind of how spelling works. You know you got to spell it correctly. But I just didn't add the extra A. I forgot it was two A's in Aardvark, but I spelled it right. That's kind of how people misspell words. They kind of forget that it's, you know, something goes in there or something should have been taken. Can I get like a half a point, like a little asterisk by that one? No, but I'll tell you what I will do. I'll give you this other easy word that you can get.

Easy? Aardvark is not easy because if it was easy, I would have said two A's. And I know nobody in the chat knew that either. Just because you didn't say that, that doesn't mean it's not either. How about this, Ocho? Okay. Accommodation.

Accommodation? Yes. A-C-C-O-M-O-D-A-T-I-O-N. Come on, now. Don't play with me, now. A-C-C-O-M-M-O-D-A-T-I-O-N. Accommodations. Two C's, two N's.

That's what I just said. No, you didn't. I'm looking at it right now. I said. Nope, you didn't. You want to put it to the chat? Ask the chat. Chat.

Did Ocho spell accommodations correctly? A-C-C-O-M-M-O-D-A-T-I-O-N Accommodations They said, sorry Ocho No Oh, I only said one M Yes It's two M's Alright

Okay See, here we go I'm spelling the words right I'm just leaving out one letter But here we go How you Ocho You treat me You treat me like You treat me like, you know what?

I ain't going to say. That's two words I didn't got right. But I left out one little letter. I left out one little letter. But you're throwing me these tricky words. Well, you know, some of the letters are doubled. All right. Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. I see you doing me like that because I'm black. You're doing me like that because I'm black. You're doing me like that because I'm black. So now I'm 0 for 2. I'm 0 for 2 on stuff. I really spell right, but I just happen to leave out a letter because these are words that I haven't had to use in Lord knows how

long. Well, how about this one, don't you? It's the word the magician used. It's called abracadabra. So you gonna go... You're going to... See? Come on, man. Ain't nobody in the checkers

to abracadabra. How you say it? Abracadabra. I can't even say it. Abracadabra. Abracadabra. Wait, how you say it? Abracadabra.

Abracadabra. Can I just take a shot at it? Go ahead. Based on the way it sounds when I sound it out? Yes. Now, if I get this wrong, this ain't really on me.

Chat, stay with me real quick, Nat. Abra. A-B-R-A. Mm-hmm. Cadabra. C-A-D-A-B-R-A. That's correct. But we already know.

People, Ocho, people in the chat, they're asking, they say, well, how do you get abracadabra but not accommodation? Well, I got accommodation right. I just left the M out. Well, clearly. How about this, Ocho? How about this one? Abstinence. Abstinence.

To refrain. Abstinence. Abstinence, like when you're not present in school? No, that's absent. Wait, absent and abstinence is the same? no abstinence oh

um I was dog I got this word you know why? because I was abstinent from 2007 to 2009 so I need to I had to hear you say it wait a minute was abstinent from 2007 to 2009.

So I had to hear you say it. Wait a minute. I was going to therapy. Abstinence. And this is how I know how to spell it. I know I'm going to get this right because I ain't got no hoo-ha for like three years.

Okay, well, close your eyes and spell it. Close your eyes. Abstinence. Close your eyes. Close your eyes. Put your hands together. Yeah, there you go. Close your eyes. spell it. Close your eyes. Abstinence. Close your eyes. Close your eyes. Put your hands together. Yeah, there you go. Close your eyes.

Right there. There you go. Nah! As a matter of fact, put that cap. Put the cap over your eyes. Nah! Put the cap over your eyes. There you go.

Go ahead. Abstinence. A-B-S-T-I-N-E-N-C-E Spell it. Spell it again. Abstinence. Yes. A-B.

Yes. S-T-I. Yes. N-E-N-C-E. Correct. Stop playing on me, boy. Stop playing with me, boy. Stop playing with me, boy. I went to therapy for this.

I went to therapy for this. Yeah. Stop playing with me. This is what I do. This is what I do. Spelling Bee Champ, 1987. Straight Outta Liberty City. Alapata, 40 Boy.

Yeah. Ben Spelling. Ben Spelling big words. Matter of fact, give me a big one. I ain't even, you know what? I feel like Keon Coleman right now. I'm talking shit. Absent. What? Absent.

You got to use it in a sentence. It's the type of alcohol that it's a type of it's an alcohol that gets you drunk i don't even drink so how am i how am i know about spelling the word when i don't even indulge in in in in alcoholic behavior okay how about this here we're gonna give you a bonus one yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me a bonus one. Achilles. Achilles. Yes.

Like the movie Troy. Achilles. Yes. Arrow to the back of the Achilles. Yes. Kirk Cousins to the back of the Achilles. Yes. H, I mean, talk about H, my bad.

Achilles. A-C-H-I-L-L-I-E-S. Achilles A-C-H I L-L I-E-S What? A-C-H I-L-L-E-S Achilles Oh, I threw an I in there for no reason

You sure did But the I is silent Ain't silent It ain't in there. Damn. That was a good one. That was a good one. Yeah, I don't care what y'all say. I did good.

I did good. You got two. You got two. You got two. I got the first two, too. No, you didn't get that. You didn't get R-bar. You didn't get accommodation. I left out an A and I left out an M. I still spelled them right. Okay, Ocho.

Now it's your turn to pay me back. Yeah. It's time to dunk on Unk. And that's exactly what it's going to be. It's going to be a dunk. Chat, I guarantee you. Why you... Why you be trying to dunk on me so bad?

Because you be... The chat, no, you've been cheating me, man, on this dunk on Unk stuff, man. How about I cheat you, Ocho? Don't worry about it. We're going to see tonight. Okay. We're going to see tonight.

Chat, stay with me now. We got this, chat. It's just me and y'all. Let me know when you're ready. I'm ready. First question. What player holds the record

for most assists in a quarter? Most assists in a quarter? Yeah, we talking basketball, baby. You know you got that database, right? Most assists in a quarter. A quarter. I don't like the way you're looking up

because the answer might be on the ceiling. Ain't no sponsor. I don't like you looking up there because the answer might be on the ceiling. In a quarter. Ain't no sponsor to see me. And a quarter. Don't look to your left because Ash is sitting over there. Man, I'm in Atlanta. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. I will go one or two.

I'm going to say. No, no, you ain't no one or two. It's just one. I got two answers, but I'm going to go one or two. I'm going to say... No, you ain't no one or two. It's just one. It's one answer. Yeah, I got two answers, but I'm going with... I'm going to say Rondo. Rayjean Rondo.

You know what? You know what? It's wrong. Go ahead. As long as you know it's wrong. With the Scott Scouts? No, it ain't. It ain't.

It ain't. Now you're wrong twice. Who is it? It's Steve Blake. 14 assists in one quarter. Wow. Steve Blake. No, I never got that one.

Yeah, yeah. You ain't going to get none of them, honestly. Here we go. Chat, we on his head. Chat, we got him. Question number two. What item was Caron Butler, who now coaches for the Heat,

if I'm not mistaken, for? If I'm not mistaken. Yes. What item was Caron Butler banned from chewing on the bench in 20... What year is that? In 2010? A straw.

Okay. Okay. We'll get you that one. Boo-boo! Boo-boo! Boo-boo! That computer, that computer,

it takes some time. It's a little late. No, no, no, no. It's a little late. That ain't got nothing to do with no computer. Hey, you know what I'm about to do, Ocho? Everybody knew about that one.

I'm going to plug this high speed. I'm going to plug this high speed. Well, put it in. Put it in. I got to plug this. Go ahead, Ocho. You don't even understand what I did. I gave you a tough one just to get your confidence back with the second question,

just to bring you back down to earth on the third one. Okay. Okay. So here we go. Four NBA players have made $600 million plus in their life. Four NBA players have made $600 million million in their life. Four NBA players have made 600 plus million in their life. Name the four.

You talking about off the court, right? In their life. Off court, on court, because you can't make 600 million on the court alone. Okay, I'm going to go. It has to all coincide. Man, it's a bunch of them.

Okay. Michael Jordan. Be careful. Be careful. Because when you start naming, you only got four. Okay, I'm saying. Michael Jordan.

No, that's one. You said, hold on. That's made 600. I said four. 600 million plus. Now you talk about it's a lot of them. It ain't no whole lot of them that's made 600... I said four. 600 million plus. Now, you talk about it's a lot of them. It ain't no whole lot of them that's made 600 million plus. Let me finish.

Can I finish? Yeah. Chat, we got him, Chat. He ain't finna get this one. It's more than four. No, it ain't. First of all, Magic, Jordan, and LeB's more than four. No, it ain't. First of all, Magic, Jordan, and LeBron are billionaires.

Okay, that's three. I said 600 million plus. You said about a bunch of them. No, it ain't. Chat, don't cheat. Chat, don't type it in the chat 600 million plus combined yep i think it's five but i'm gonna say I'm going to say. It can't be that easy. Don't look at that chat. Don't look at that chat.

It can't be that easy. I ain't looking at the chat. I ain't looking at the chat. It's one or two. But it can't be that easy. It can't be. I'm going to say Junior Bridgman. Man, hell no, man. Nah, the chat gave me the answer, man.

The chat gave me the answer. Oh, don't do me like this. The chat gave me the answer, man. Oh, don't do me like this. Nah, the chat gave me the answer. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Nah, nah, yeah, yeah. Nah, you got that

right, but you got an asterisk about that one. Ocho, I know you. Ocho, you do realize Ocho and your bridgeman played for the Bucs. You do realize that, right? He wore number two. Yeah, he played with yeah, Sidney Moncrief, you know, Bob McAdoo.

They was all on that team. You didn't know that? With Nelly Costa in the 80s. Nah, man. Yeah. Outlisted. Yeah, nah. Come on, Ocho.

Hey, you cheated me. You cheated me on something. Okay, come on. Here we go. Here we go. Next one. Next one. Next one.

Let me lock in. Let me lock in. You ready? Mm-hmm. Okay, come on. Here we go. Here we go. Next one. Next one. Next one. Let me lock in. Let me lock in. You ready? Who was the first foreign basketball player ever drafted first overall? First foreign basketball player drafted first overall. Foreign born? Foreign in general. So obviously they're not from here. They got to be foreign. If they were born somewhere else, they're not from here. They got to be foreign. If they were born somewhere else,

they got to be foreign. I'm going to say 84, Kim Olajuwon. That is also absolutely wrong. Who was it? The first foreign basketball player ever drafted, number one

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but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here we go again. You ready? Yep. We got him on the ropes, Chad. What year was Caitlyn Jenner drafted in the NBA? What do you mean what year he was drafted in?

Okay, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What year was Caitlyn Jenner drafted in the NBA? Woo. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I know I know I know I know how you feel I know how you feel

You make me You make me nervous Looking around You make me nervous I don't know Look he won the gold He won the gold medal In 76

In the Montreal Olympics So I'm gonna say 77 78 77 I don't know going to say 77, 78, 77. I don't know. Which one? 78? I'm going 77. I don't know. Okay. Drafted by who?

No, that's not what you said. You said the year. Well, he was drafted in the NBA what year by what NBA team? No, that's not what you said. That's not what you said. You said what year. Am I correct?

You don't want to say that. I'm asking for the team. What's the answer? Is 77 the answer, Ocho? No, you're not listening. You need to complete the answer. Complete the answer. Chat, chat.

Did he say no? Chat had nothing to do with this. Complete the answer. Chat, chat. Did he say? No, the chat had nothing to do with this. I asked you what year. You said what year. I told you the year. You didn't say the team. You did not say the team. Now, is 77 the correct answer?

Yes or no? I need the team. I need the team for the complete answer. Y'all can't get with the computer. I told you what I was going to say. I need the team. Group of hospitals. I need the team. I need the team.

Telling me the year without telling me the year without the team name. That makes no sense. You didn't ask me the team. Well, obviously you would want to give it to you. You want to give the team. No, no, no. When you ask me, when you ask me who the first foreign born player, you didn't say and tell me the team he was drafted to.

You say, which one? You say what year was at the time he was Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn Jenner, drafted into the NBA. I said 77. Clearly that's correct. Okay, if I said into the NBA,

so obviously I need the team they were drafted to. No, you don't. That's not what you said. You know what? You get 50%. You get 50%. You get 50%. Chat, y'all, chat,

weigh in. Am I right or wrong? Who's right on this one? If I ask you what year someone was drafted into the NBA, I need the team they were drafted to.

That's not what you're saying. You only asked the year. Listen, I need a team. I breathe for four. I breathe for five. I breathe for five. I'm telling you. I done caught you.

Nah. Nah. You cheating. Somebody in the chat said, you need to change your hat. They spelled it wrong. I mean, it's supposed to be a champion with

an A. That's the point. Ocho, I was so... Ocho, I told you about the 76 Olympics. I told you what Olympics were held in Montreal. I said it had to be... Come on, Ocho. Don't do me like that. But what I needed was the team

that they were drafted to. Anybody can guess because it's so obvious. If the Olympics were in 76, obviously you're going to say 77. That's what I did. But here's the thing. Wait a minute. To complete the answer, I would need to know what team they were drafted to. No, you wouldn't.

Because it's easy to say the year. You should have asked. I did. I said NBA. You said, in what year did Caitlyn Jenner get drafted to the NBA? That's what you said. Right. You didn't say the team. Oh my God. In the NBA,

I would still need the team. No, you wouldn't. No. I got it. Hey, we're going to put this to the chat, okay? Hey, back in the chat. Did Shannon get the question right? It's a really simple yes or no.

No. No. And if the chat is not on my side after you cheat me all these times with these spelling words... I can't do. Don't give me my bonus question. Don't give me my bonus question. I don't even have a bonus question.

Okay. I'll give you one. Nope, it's three for five. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no, no. I got a bonus question for you. You ready?

Yeah, yeah. Don't get scared. You ain't got no bonus question. I got one right now. I'm ready. Nope, nope. I ain't let you make up nothing. You scared.

You scared. You scared. Three for five. I won again. Hold on, Ocho. We got a picture. We put the picture up. Who is that?

Who is that? Who is that? I don't know who it look like, Ocho. That's you? Yeah, I see that. Yeah, okay. Boy, you ripped up, man. When your boy say he was hell when he was well.

Yeah, you was hell when he was well, huh? Yeah, you better. Boy, I was fatter than frog here. Boy, y'all better stop playing with me. Y'all better stop playing with me. Now, see, I was nephew back then. Hey, y'all better stop it. Y'all better stop it. Hey, what year was that? What's that, 83? That was 83? That was the 96 Pro Bowl. Okay, that's a long time ago.

You don't look nothing like that no more. That was, hold on, 96? Nigga, why don't you let the baby cuss up here? That's 30 years ago. But you see, that's what 230 looked like. Anybody can have abs at 180, 190, like you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I ain't never been

190. I ain't never been 180. I ain't never been 185. I played my career. I was 6'3", 210. I'm not sure where you got that from. Hey, I don't want to tell about what kind of shorts I had on, but you know, your boy was? Hey. Yeah. I don't want to tell about what kind of shorts I had on, but you know,

your boy, I was all wet on, Joe. See, look at my chain. They done got my chain. They stole my chain. How? They stole your chain

at the Pro Bowl? They stole it when they stole it last year. Oh, so you still had your chain from way back then? Damn, that's crazy.

My brother gave me that chain. Damn. That's messed up. But you see you want to show up? Oh, you see you want to show up? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you weren't ripped up like me, but you...

Tore up like a Trump tax return. Shredded. Look at that waist. Look at the waist. You want to see what a 32-inch waist looked like on a 230-pound man? Waist disappeared like a Clinton email. It was gone. Okay.

Gone. Okay. I will, I will, I will. Like three weeks before, I got in a fight with a sword. I lost cuts everywhere. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I lost it, Ocho. I had it there for a second.

Cuts everywhere. Hey, man. You saw a picture of me last show, right? You notice how I had 10 abs showing clear as day? 10. 10. Ocho, you clear as day. 10. 10. Ocho, you 190.

10. How about you, Ocho? I'm just telling you. Right now? I can't let y'all see no more. Y'all already see, because you look at your boy. Your boy was hard.

All right, pause. Like the times of 29. You know what happened to October 29, don what happened you know what happened October 29 don't you October 29 what October 1929 it happened on a Monday

I don't remember stock market crash that's when it got to turn boom hey Ojo you better start with me hell no harder than prom would Hey Ojo You better start with me Hell nah Harder than prom would

You know what I'm saying Ojo You went to the prom Hey Ojo I'm just saying Ojo That's all I'm saying That's all I'm saying They go to I go to the crib

They call you Hey Orange I turn around Yeah I'm peeled They already know it Okay They used to call you Orange around. I'm peeled. They already know it. Okay.

They used to call you Orange. Yeah, yeah. I was peeled, okay? I like that. I like that. Yeah, your boy ass up. Let's see the results. Let's see the results.

Let's see the results or the question. Did Shannon get it right? We got 2,300 votes. Did I get it right? I can't see. I can't see it. We're going to see it. Put it up on the screen so he can see it.

Come on, Chad. I hope you all ain't letting me down now. Come on, Chad. 83. I'm trying to figure out who the 17% is. Deshanna, get the question right. 83% says yes. 17% says no.

You know what? You know what? You see the 80? You know what? That might not be real. I'm not agreeing with that. Ocho, I'm just trying to figure out. You asked me, what year did Caitlyn Jenner get drafted into the NBA?

Once I said 77, you said, now tell me the team. Yeah, well, wouldn't you want to complete the full answer? I completed it. Let me ask you a question. Yes. Don't you think the chat wanted to hear what team Caitlyn Jenner was drafted to? Because I'm sure they had no idea. Hell, I didn't even have no idea.

You didn't know. I'm sure they wanted to know. You, I ain't even had no idea. So I'm sure they wanted to know. You didn't know. What you call him? Oh, man, man. Something ain't right. You've been cheating, man. How am I cheating? I don't know. You be looking around and

you made me cover my eyes and all that. You be looking at this. You hit me with the Marlon Brando. You know, Marlon Brando used to be doing scenes. They used to have the cue cards stuck up on the walls all around. They still do.

For real? So he can remember his lines. Oh, no, man. Something ain't right, man. Something ain't right. It's cool. But I left out one letter. I spelled the words right.

I left out one letter. And, oh, it is wrong. It's wrong. It's wrong. Hey, you forgot to tell me the team that she was drafted to. I mean, he, I mean, what do I say?

I don't want to be disrespectful. Is it he or she? Nah, don't start me to lie. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how they refer to it, so I prefer to just, I don't say anything.

Right, okay, okay, okay, okay. I mean, whatever, whatever they identify as, I just want to be respectful. I mean, I don't know. I want to be respectful, that's all. Yeah. That's why, hey, that's why I don't say anything. I don't know. I want to be respectful. That's all. Yeah. That's why I don't say anything.

I don't know. I've never asked anybody how they'd like to be referred to. I just call them their name, and I just keep it moving. That way, I don't run into any problems, Ocho. Ocho, it's time for our last segment of the night, and you know it's our fan favorite, Q&A. I got to use the bathroom real quick.'s our favorite fan favorite. Q and A. Well, I got to use the bathroom real quick.

Bathroom right in here. Yeah, man. Man, Ocho tried to cheat. I want to know that 17%. I want to know the 17% that thought Ocho could tag on. Okay.

And what team was he drafted to? But I, I didn't complete the answer. He asked a very simple question, a very specific question. What year did Caitlyn Jenner get drafted into the NBA? That's what he asked. I said, well, he won the 76 Olympics in Montreal.

I'm assuming 77. Okay, what team? Then he added on, what team did he get drafted to somebody yeah he said Caitlin so I regurgitated what he said he said that so I said

Caitlin obviously man Ocho be trying to cheat. Nah, man. Ocho, I got three out of five, Ocho. After going five for five, you should feel good. After going five for five two nights in a row, the stunt made the miss two.

You're going five for five because you are cheating and finding loopholes in the system. How? That's it. Looking at the chat sometime the chat and not knowing and they just

they blurting out the answer write it out and you just you peek at the chat then look away and pretend like you don't know what's going on and then say it.

Ojo, I promise you when it comes to the sports the sports stuff Ojo, this trivia, I told you I plugged it into the wall and went on super high speed. All right. Dre Phillips said, oh, that LePort

did you put that blue diamond in there? Vertical activity, horizontal, acute, isolates, worth it all. Worth the wait. Nah, bro. That, hey, you know, that's just a lot of love, tender care. You know, the right mixture.

We got that thing. Dre, appreciate the support. Glad you were able to receive it, bro. All right. Scott Allen said, hey, can I get a shout out for my brother Roddy? Huge Nightcap fan. Ocho, are you and Ocho are his favorite? Ocho is his favorite wide receiver.

Question for both. If you had to start your defense with one, J.J. Watt, D-Wear, Dwight Freedy, who you picking? Happy birthday, Ronnie. Your brother, big brother Scott. I don't know if he's big brother or little brother. Happy birthday. Thank you for supporting us,

Ronnie, watching Nightcap. Question. If you had to start a defense, who you start with, watching Nightcap. Question. If you had to start a defense, who would you start with? JJ or D-Ware or Dwight Freeney? I mean, I like Dwight Freeney. The greatest spin move off the...

The greatest spin move... Oh, they had that spin. The greatest combo of moves, he had a bag. You know how Kyrie has a bag? Yeah. Off the edge, Dwight Freeney had a bag of special moves, with his best one being that spin.

Yeah, that spin cycle. Yeah, he'll pull you inside, and as soon as you lean, spin right up out of there. He can do it the opposite way. He'll lean you out and spin right back inside. Obviously, nothing against T.J. Watt. J.J.

Great player. J.J., excuse me, J.J. Watt, great player, great player, but just for me, preference for this specific question, regardless of stats,

I ain't trying to hear all that. I like Dwight Freeman. I think I would take J.J. Because there was a stretch there. Oh, yeah. He was on. Yeah, he was on that. He was on that L.T. Reggie type.

Yeah, yeah. Where it wasn't even close who the best defensive player was. Right. It wasn't nobody else was even in the discussion. Yes, sir. So all these great players

did well, helped my Broncos win another Super Bowl. Dwight Freeman played against him. So, all these great players. D-Wear helped my Broncos win another Super Bowl. Dwight Freeney played against him. You're right, Ocho. The best spin move ever. Sap, Scott, Scott or Scott Sapp? But anyway, Funkin85, love the show. It's my first time catching y'all live. Recently

lost my grandmother last year. I know you and Ocho were close with y'all. What's something that has stuck with you, you all, from time to time? Everything. Yeah. Because I was,

I mean, go ahead, Ocho. Yeah. For me, the one thing that stuck with me, financial discipline. It's never left. That's where it all started.

That is where it all started. Now, there's some other areas that she has tried to instill in me and those are coming along slower than you know as opposed to but when it came to that financial discipline and when most people calling me cheap and or some calling me frugal that stuck from from way back then and I think to me, I think that's my best trait, my best asset. I think how you treat people. Even if somebody did my grandmother wrong,

she never held it against them. She never brought it up. She just always treats, she always tell me, say, boy, treat people, you'll never know who you'll ask to hand you your last glass of water. And so I always remember

that i always try to i've always tried to treat people nice because you never know um if you'll need that person again but that's not a reason to treat someone that should just be common decency right hey how you doing oh i mean i don't really have a reason to be a jerk to someone, especially just coming in contact with them. Hey, how you doing? Yeah, I'm fine. How are you? Great day. Yeah, it is i'm i'm very simplistic in that treat people nice i treat people how i would want to be treated because i don't oh i wasn't i mean we weren't always ex-professional athletes we weren't always celebrities i always think if the shoe was on the other foot. Mm-hmm. Even if I don't sign, how you doing?

How was your day? I'm in a hurry. Bro, I got to go catch this flight. Bro, I'm sorry. Next time. Yeah. I just think there's a way that you can talk

and treat people regardless. And I'm a firm believer. I'll never believe because of my status that I'm better than you. But I absolutely believe I can do my job better than you can do yours. Hmm.

I like that. Faye said, hey, Shannon Ocho, does the NFL have mentorship program to help the new players transition post-draft? Are players referred to money managers, mental health services, housing, etc.? If not, would you or Ocho consider mentoring new players? No. They have a rookie symposium. They have everything. They do. They have a rookie symposium. They have resources to everything.

They do. They have a rookie symposium. They have mental health providers that's on staff that you can go talk to. They got psychiatrists on staff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything. Look, I would have thought by now the NFL would have reached out

considering that, you know, being a seventh-round draft pick, Ocho, starting out on special teams, working my way up, having the success that I had as a team, and then, you know, getting a gold jacket. I thought at some point in time here, it's 20 years I've been retired, that they would ask me to speak to the rookie at the symposium. That never happened.

So now I'm good. Guys, if guys want to reach out to me personally, I ain't got no problem. None whatsoever. Now, that's what most of them do right there, what you just said. They reach out personally

just based on what they know and what they've seen in the past and how I've always moved. So, little small tidbits here and there. Yes. And most of the time with me, they ask about

how to deal with the mothers of their kids. That's more so. It's not even the financial stuff. It's, man, how the hell was you ever able to navigate without doing things

the traditional way? And, God damn, you make it work. You make it look so easy. man how the hell was you ever able to navigate without doing things the traditional way and god damn you make it work you make it look so easy and I listen I say I tell them all the same thing boy listen

you gotta make right you gotta make right with that individual you have a child from because they will make your life a living hell yeah I

normally guys when they reach out I was like you want me to lie to you you want me to tell you the truth but no I don't tell me the truth I said okay right because sometimes you know people don't really want to hear the truth they don't want to hear resemblance of the truth

hmm B Burn 69 love the show Uncle Nocho best podcast they're not even close can y'all give BeBird69 love the show Uncle Nocho best podcast out there not even close can y'all give my wife

Danielle Lee Birdie happy birthday shout out been together since 95 Danielle happy birthday and congratulations you guys

been together almost 30 years wow that's a long time bro congratulations that's a lot that's what I'm talking about.

That's a lot of times of falling in love over again. Yeah. A lot of times. A lot of times. Congratulations. Happy birthday, Danielle. All right, guys. Thank you for tuning in.

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