Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Cam Newton calls out Shedeur & Bam has some interesting comments in his exit interview!

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Bam Adebayo having some interesting comments about Pat Riley and the Heat’s future, Cam Newton calls out Shedeur about draft conduct, scientists weigh in on 100 vs 1 gorilla debate & much more!01:47 - Bam Adebayo’s exit interview06:35 - Dyson Daniels wins Most Improved Player09:00 - Jeff Ulbrich fined and issues apology21:49 - Cam Newton calls out Shedeur Sanders38:00 - World record for punching39:00 - Scientists on 100 humans vs. gorilla debate42:35 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. In his exit interview earlier today, Bam Adebayo asked, what changes he'd like to see this summer after the game for postgame? That's a Pat Riley question. I hope you can ask that question to him,

and he doesn't blow you off and ignore you. Hold on. He said this in the… That's what Bam said. I didn't say that. I'm reading what Bam said. Bam said, that's a Pat Riley question. I hope you can ask that question

to him and he doesn't blow you off and ignore you. This is what Bam was asked what changes he'd like to see this summer after his game for comments. There's a Pat Riley question. Oh, sure.

Yeah. Talk to me. You got to holler at your people, bro. What's going on down there? Everything will be all right. Everything will be all right. Listen, Pat and Bam are going to have to sit down. Bam, Bam, Bam ain't going nowhere.

You know, we got some pieces coming to help Bam out so he doesn't have to be the focal point of everything, so he doesn't have to go out there and do as much and exert as much energy as he does on both ends of the court. Bam, we got help coming for you. Bam, you got my number. Bam, you got my number. So I'm in the rooms you not in, Bam, okay? I'm in the rooms you're not in, Bam.

I'm in the conversations you can't hear. We're going to be all right down in Miami. That's your style of play, man. I'm trying to think I need to incorporate him in what's going on, which direction the franchise is going, what y'all plan on doing this summer, how we're going to get this organization back to the top. Yeah, he's our franchise player,

but there's certain conversations that he can't be in. Certain conversations that I and Mickey Harrison and Pat, we also, he's our franchise player now, but we have long-term. We have long-term goals that we need to achieve. Ain't he a part of them long-term goals? Yeah, he is. He is.

But is he going to play 22 years like LeBron? Well, we don't know that. We don't know. We don't know. Well, listen, things are being put in place. Okay, you ever play Connect 4? Boy, I'm so cold in Connect 4.

It's a shame. That's what we're doing right now. Connect 4. And we're going to make sure everything align the right way to make sure that he can get back to where they need to be. Okay. All right.

I respect heat coaching, man. You know, I was a part of heat coaching. I used to be at the game. I used to watch you. Now I know what you can do. Boy, you cold. You cold with it, man. You nice with it.

I respect your game. I've seen you. I can tell you what you're going to do before you do it based on your mechanism. How you going to tell me what I'm going to do before I do it? Because I watch seen you. I can tell you what you're going to do before you do it based on your manhood. How are you going to tell me what I'm going to do before I do it? Because I watch you play. I can tell you what you're doing. My game is different.

My game is different. That was 10 years ago. My game is different from now. So you think your game is different now? Yeah, it's different now. What you're telling me is father timing and it ain't touch yet. I ain't saying that. I'm saying

what I do now, I can dominate it. I'm good. Okay, so you stay in one little area and you good at that area. You ain't gonna make no adjustments. I ain't got to. I ain't got to. I'm good. I'm straight over there. Okay, I feel you. I like your confidence.

You got me dirty. I like your confidence. That's what you need. it's all about belief and confidence hey look if I ain't got nothing else I got some confidence brother that's me too hey Titus what up twin

can you tell somebody just got home I was gone it's a day and a half I. It's a day and a half. Ron just gone a day and a half. So what you thinking, Joe? I think that was a shot across the bow. Bam said, hey, ask Pat Riley that.

Yeah, it was a little something. He know everything. Yeah, he basically telling you, you know, y'all know who driving the ship over here, man. You ask me questions, I ain't got no controller. You know what I'm saying? And maybe Pat do got something up his sleeve. Oh, he do.

He do. I tried to tell you. Y'all ain't going to listen to me until it happens. We'll try real soon. You just know he got to have something up his sleeve. Oh, he do. He do. I'm telling you. Listen, I don't want

to say too much because the fact that I'm even allowed in these rooms for these conversations to be had, it says a lot. But I gave you enough. I gave you what I could and just know things

are coming. Hell, Bam, you got my number, Bam. You hit me. You know, we got you. We're going to take care of you. Yeah. Yeah. You see what I mean? The Hawks' Dyson Daniels was named NBA's most improved player.

Dyson Daniels finished ahead of Evisa Zubats and Cade Cunningham to become the second Hawks player to take home the award. In his third season, his first with Atlanta, Daniels averaged a career-high 14 points, rebound six, four-and-a-half assists, and three steals, while shooting a career-high 49.3% from the field and 34% from the three-point line, averaging just under 34 minutes of game. Joe, we're both off.

You thought it would be Cade Cunningham. I thought it would be Zubac and Abedog if your Hawks player didn't sneak in there and win the war. Because we had him winning, what, was it defensive player of the year? Defensive player of the year, yes. I didn't have him winning most improved, but I'm glad he did. He is well-deserving. Man, I've had a chance to, you know, go to some practices, see these guys practice.

I see the extensive work that Kyle Corver, the assistant GM, was putting in with this dude, you know, really showing him how to shoot and just getting them reps up with him after practice, you know. And he was just a sponge, just soaking up as much game as he could. And obviously, it seemed like every month, month to month, week to week, it just seemed like he kept getting better. He kept improving. And he grew offensively.

Defensively, he's always had that knack to be a hell of a defensive player and be disruptive, you know, defensively. Offensively, his game just came around, and he just flourished this whole year for us as the Hawks. But, you know, we were bogged down with injuries, man. I expect him to play a big pivotal role. Coming into next season, you know, us Hawks getting off to a great, great start. So I'm looking forward to it, man.

Much well-deserved. Oh, you know what I was thinking? I know who would be a good player for the Lakers. Who? Clint Capella. Yeah. Clint Capella. Yeah. Clint Capella. You must think the Hulk was getting rid of Clint Capella.

They ain't gonna get rid of him. Nah. Y'all don't be playing him. He been hurt. He was hurt. He was hurt. Let him rehab with the Lakers. Hey. He was hurt pretty much the past two, three months of the season, man. Like I said, I started in five. We had two starters missing out to start in five.

So, you know, it was tough for us. But shout out to Dyson Daniels for winning. For winning. Yeah. Most improved. Most improved. The Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator

Jeff Ulbrich apologized publicly today for the leak of Shador Sanders' private phone number and his son using it to prank call the quarterback

during the NFL draft. My actions of not protecting confidential data were inexcusable. My son's actual actions were absolutely inexcusable. And for that, we are both deeply sorry.

Earlier today, the NFL fined the Falcons a quarter of a million dollars, and Ulbricht himself was fined $100,000 in response to the situation. The NFL said the fines were failing to prevent the disclosure of confidential information distributed to the club in advance of the NFL draft. Ulbricht said, neither him nor the Falcons would be appealing to find. I promise my son and I will work hard to demonstrate

we are both better than this. I'll just start with you. Football question. Do you think that was a fair punishment? I think it was a fair punishment. When you think about the fine amount for entities like the Atlanta Falcons,cons that ain't nothing you know say dropping the bucket 250 000 i mean what is that going to do now for the coach who doesn't make millions of dollars

like the players do now that might hurt you a little bit that might hurt you a little bit um the the punishment i guess is it serves and it is due right. I think the son needs to be punished. That's more of a personal issue for the dad to take care of on his end, especially for taking away that moment from Shador Sanders. A moment like that that he's worked for, obviously. Inserting himself into that moment. Into that moment.

Wanting to go viral, being that we're in that era right now. You say it all the time. Everybody don't play the same, especially with a moment like that. Outside of that, that's pretty much it. I think it was fair. I think it was fair. I do too.

Obviously, the fine amount, finding the falcon. I think it was just. I think it was a just amount to be fined. Yeah. So I don't have no problem. I don't know why they would. Right. Because if you have something in your possession, it's up to you to protect it.

Right. So how and why he did it, the son, yes, we all know the son shouldn't have done this, but it was was it's up to the defensive coordinator to protect that information absolutely to make sure his son can't get it you know i don't have a problem what you think joe you don't expect the son to go and stuff though huh i hey look i agree with the punishment it's almost like ojo if you got your son go and take your gun and do something he ain't got no business you should be punished for it, bro. You should. Yeah, and you will. Yeah, you should be punished for that.

So it's almost the same thing if you ask me. His son got some information that he knew he shouldn't have been messing with. And these are

the repercussions of it, man. Yeah. Yes. It's up to the dad to secure that information. Absolutely. It's not the son. Yeah, the son's

older than Coach O'Hill. We both know the kid's 21, 22 years of old. He ain't no right from wrong. No, he don't. He know Yeah, the son's old. I'll tell you, we both know the kid's 21, 22 years of old. He didn't know right from wrong. He didn't know he shouldn't have done that. But that was his moment to go viral.

He wanted that click. He wanted that mention. He wanted that viral moment. Even at the expense of his dad or putting his dad and the Falcons in harm's way. Bro, you on camera. Maybe if you do it

and you don't show your face, they might not know who it is. But you put yourself on camera. Maybe if you do it and you don't show your face, they might not know who it is. Right. But you put yourself on camera? Yeah. So with that being said, I agree. Over 10 players have reportedly, they were prank called during the NFL draft.

Shador Sanders, Shiloh, Tyler Warren, Kyle McCord, Mason Graham, Chase Lutz, Josh Connelly Jr., Abdul-Kart, and Isaiah Bond. Offer for those guys, Didn't even get a chance. Some of those guys didn't even get drafted. How does the league, because you see what happens now. Now, this has always been a standard. Ocho, where you going to be at? There wasn't no cell phones

Ocho. I'll be at my brother's house. Here's the number. I'll be at my grandma's house. Here's the number. I'm going to be such and such. Now, you know, everybody got a cell phone. And now, you know, to keep from, and I think this is what they do. A lot of agents are having guys getting new cells just for this moment. Yeah. Just for this moment.

Because, you know, you got homeboys be wanting to play games. Because I know if I didn't have a cell phone, my homeboy was like, hey. Nah. Nah. You think you ask homeboys they play like that, huh? They woulda. In this moment, you're most proud? No, I don't think.

No, I don't know. No, no. Burns, Bucket, no, they wouldn't play like that. Man, the anxiety and excitement that you have in that moment, I can't even explain it. So I'm trying to put myself in their shoes. If I got a prank call like that, I would have, man, what? Hey, but here heard the thing,

Ocho, somebody called it, they'd have just been calling it, hey, is your brother home? And they're like, hey, man, don't try to lie to me. Don't try to lie to me. Hey, man, anybody got a, hey, my brother expecting a call, so forth and so on. Yeah, but if it had been way

back in, because the thing was it used to be, Joe, I don't know if you remember this. They used to be, you know, community line. So everybody that was on that in that neighborhood was on that line. Right. So, oh, Joe, you be on the phone. Joe phone busy, too. Or Joe pick up the phone. I can hear Joe.

I can hear Joe talking. Hey, Joe, man, I'm expecting a call. Can you all get off the phone for about five minutes? I had to get Joe to hang up. And Joe's a half a mile from me because everybody was on the community line. So it wasn't until you got an individual line that you could actually pick up the phone and call.

Or if you're on the phone, the phone's busy. That was before they got call-weighted. You know, you hear the thing, you click over. But there was but there was no call waiting there was a community line and everybody was on it so i can just imagine you at your ballhouse and you waited in somebody on the phone talking well so we're gonna drive you with the field pick but we couldn't get through to you we're gonna have them lines clear that day. It wasn't going to be none of that. Hey, we're going to get into trouble.

Y'all got to chill. But how do they fix, Ocho, how does the league fix this? I mean, I don't even think it's a league fix. It's more of a personal fix on your end. You understand, and you don't expect your son to go do nothing like that. Well, damn, everybody's son did this? We know about Jeff Wilbrecht, but who were these other guys that got great?

I think it all came from one person. That's what I think. No. You don't think so? I think it's true. I think it all came from one person. It was a different person. It was a different person for Isaiah Bond. No, I'm not saying the numbers got out. Yeah. But I'm saying, a bond. No, I'm not saying the numbers got out. Yeah.

But I'm saying, how did they get out? Coach had, they had everybody's number on. Yeah. They had everybody's number. So I'm saying he could have gotten every number and given them. Oh, so you said, so you said the guy went in the phone, the Falcons guy, Jeff Ulbrich's son. Yeah. He went in there and disseminated it

to other people. Yeah, that's what I mean. Okay. That's probable. That's probable. That's likely. How nobody else has gotten in trouble.

I know they didn't record themselves, but it only makes sense it all probably came from one person. You know, young people. Okay, I can see that. I can see that.

Young folk play like that. Hey, man. Time out for the game. Wow. Yeah. Not in everything. Everything ain't key, key, key.

Nah. Oh, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, let them know. They call me playing around by the time they get drafted. Shh.

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longer. Hey, that's dead wrong, man. Yeah, of course. People play entirely too much. Yeah, that's entirely too much. That's way too much. You gonna get drafted? What you gonna do? What can you do? Come on down here to Miami and come to the dog park with me.

Hey, big boy can't go to the dog park, can he, huh? No, he ain't fixed. That boy ain't fixed. That boy ain't going to no dog park. He trying to house everything. Come through there. What are you talking about?

No, he ain't fixed. Hold on. So you can't go to the dog park, but he's trained, though. No, but they won't let you go unless he's paid or neutered. He can't go. They ain't having that with them. I've never heard that rule.

Now, what's the reason? Especially if your dog is trained and had discipline. What you think the reason is? Yeah. If your dog is trained, he just going to jump on people's dogs? It does not matter.'re not they're not taking no chances and a lot of times dogs that have that are intact they're a little bit more aggressive they have a little bit more testosterone yes sir and so you know what to keep that down

keep him say i've really never been to a dog park and that's okay yeah say i've been my dad's backyard we in the backyard. I'll be chasing Teddy sometimes. Say, Teddy a chicken though. He be running. He's a Teddy be running. I be trying to get him though. And you got to put your dog around

other dogs, you know, to allow them to see what it's like to be amongst... He don't... If he saw a dog down... I mean, he... If he weren't like... When I'm walking him, he just look at a dog like, what you doing? I mean, he's not aggressive towards dogs.

Right. Now, I've had dogs that were aggressive towards dogs, but he's not one. He's not. He a baby. I mean, Talker Man, I had a bull mastiff. I had two. But Talker Man, he see a dog, he look at him like,

nobody's business. What's up with the master breed? You like the master breed? I do. I do. I've had a Nikita. That was the first dog. That was the first dog that I actually owned. And then I got two Pomeranians.

And then I got two Bull Masters. I got one, and then I thought he needed a buddy to play with. And so I got another one. And then I got, after they passed, I got Titan Man. And then I got another Pomeranian. I got a Prescott. He's the same color as Titan. He a big boy.

A presser? Yeah. Who you get it from? Where we at? You get it from Atlanta? I got it from a guy in Canada. Okay. Where we at?

He in there, Ocho. I ain't bringing him in here right now. Bring him in, man. Let me see him, man. Talk to you one day, Ocho. Just relax. Come on, man. Go get that play.

You know what? You're going to see Titus up close and personal. You don't give me my $5900. Hold on. What's that? Where did the extra $700 come from? 15%. Tariff.

50%. Cam Newton. Cam Newton calls out Shador Sanders for acting like a DB and being too loud. Lead with work, not clout. He took on a persona of a DB. DB, you're able to do certain things. You can speak loud, be rambunctious, and have bravado. As a quarterback, you're a CEO.

Ocho, do you agree with this? I mean, in a sense, a little bit. In a sense, a little bit. You got to conduct yourself a certain way at that specific position. At that specific position, you got to conduct yourself a certain way. You got to carry yourself a certain way. You got to talk a certain way.

PC, almost. I kind of even don't like it, but obviously you're not in there yet. You're not there yet. You haven't made it yet. So once you get there, if anything, you got to play the game a little bit. You got to play the game a little bit. This is why I love Lamar Jackson so much.

Lamar Jackson has been Lamar Jackson since Louisville. Lamar Jackson has been Lamar Jackson since he was that boy in high school. So Lamar Jackson, even in the NFL, he's still Lamar Jackson. He hasn't changed or conformed to the ways In which they say a quarterback should be In talk, in dress He's remained authentically himself So Shador, his approach to the game is a little bit different

He's a little bit more flashy He has a little bit more aura And bounce to him And pizzazz that just comes with him. It comes with the last name in general. That's just who he is. You understand what you get

and I understand what Cam is talking about and Cam is one that also, he didn't change who he was. He didn't change who he was. He was authentic to himself and it remained that way and he played at a very high level. But he didn't become that

until he already got in the league. Yeah. So, you know, Shador comes with the camera and the lights and the glitz and glamour already. He has it all before he even got to the NFL.

So it's hard to tone that down and then bring it back out. But listen, he in there now. So the sky's the limits. The sky's the limits. Joe, what's their basketball equivalent? Who is the situation that in the basketball they would like, you know, braggadocious, outgoing, can flash, a lot of flash, a lot of

stuff. We'll see if the substance that he had in college, if he can replicate that in the NFL. But who do you think would be the equivalent of Shador as a basketball player? The only guy

off the top of my head I could think is probably Lil Mikey who just signed with Mike Divvy at Sacramento State. Okay. I think because since he was a kid. Mike Williams, right? Michael Williams, since he was a kid, you know, we've seen the talent. We've seen how he's captivated these young kids. Man, I've been in tournaments to where he's played at.

I'm talking about the gyms be crazy packed out. So now that he has an opportunity, you know, he transferred from UCF to Sacramento State over there with Mike Bibby. I think Mike Bibby going to give him the keys and let him kind of rock out

as far as guard-wise, handling the ball, making plays, scoring the ball. And I think, you know, I think he'll get a chance to really put his talent on display to show the world what he's capable of doing. Because at UCF,

he was coming off the bench, he wasn't even really playing, but he had his moments, so I'm looking forward to him taking college basketball by storm this year. Yeah, the chat said Bronny James. I don't think

Bronny's job stock didn't, nobody thought Bronny James. I don't think Bronny – Bronny's draft stock didn't – nobody thought Bronny James was going to be a lottery pick. Nobody thought – Bronny James was not rated as a top player in the draft. He probably got helped by his dad. I think had he gone back to school and had a year recovery, because he's only a year removed from a very, very serious medical injury, a medical,

excuse me, injury issue. Very serious. Yeah. But it's still, it's still, that, that's not a good comparison to whoever said,

no, it's not. The, the, the, the cachet and the aura that each of them have is completely different. You know, right.

LeBron, he is LeBron's son. Right. But Deion, but Shador, and what comes with Shador, it's a little bit more, a little bit more light. Yeah, LeBron was never flashy.

Shador was doing this. Yeah, they've been doing this. Yeah, LeBron. Yes. Yeah, LeBron is. I mean, all LeBron do is, LeBron, he make make a shot and he run back down the court he's low-key lebron brony look more low-key with it i mean should do her more

like johnny manziel or something like that that's that's a good that's a good comparison that's a good comparison yeah so look i i think the thing is Ocho you and I have spoken nauseam about this I think everybody's trying to figure out why how what happened who did what to try

to explain some things should be offered without explanation Ocho it's like I don't know if you older than us remember some things should be offered without explanation. Ocho. It's like, I don't know if you older than us remember. You remember, Joe, you remember when people used to go door to door and they sold encyclopedias or dictionaries?

I done bought a few of them. What you talking about? So somebody come to the thing, somebody come like, he bought them. Next house didn't. Yeah. Maybe they need them. maybe they need him and didn't want him i don't know it's a good one we gotta stop i mean sometimes you know it has no questions

why okay he has a chance now yeah he's there now yeah where you got drafted yeah there's money involved because i'm sure he'd like to be on a first-round pick, like to be on a top-ten pick, top-five pick because of the money. But I think if Shadur is what many believe that he is and I believe that he can play, it shouldn't be a problem. And you know, the funny thing about it is he's going to get to his money faster

because you were a fifth-round pick. He's going to get to it faster. All you got to do, boy, put your head down and do what you've always been doing work what what uh Brock Purdy came out with two years three years

ago who what quarterback within Brock Purdy's draft what year was that 2021 22

yeah so who's who hey that's so funny well you just that little example you just used about the encyclopedias and dictionaries you know I used to sell them at my church

now they come to our house they getting screened I say you see this house what makes you think we need encyclopedias do you see this house the screen door hanging off you know what I'm saying so what makes you think

if we ain't got money to repair, what good is being smart if we living like this? We ain't smart enough to fix the screen door. Come out with a handyman. You got a handyman in there? I remember them days, boy.

Yeah. We all deal with it. Me and my little damn encyclopedias. I mean, dictionary. Come out and have encyclopedias, I mean, dictionary, come by and sell your encyclopedias and dictionary. Would you like to buy some encyclopedias? Lady, please.

Hey, does it look like somebody here doing homework? I'm just asking you. No. My brother, no my brother what that thing

what that thing is you know my brother hey

what that thing where they going they got

books library yeah yeah that place by no dictionary no encyclopedia.

And it wasn't, I think, maybe, I think it cost like $50 for a set. Do you know what $50 in the 70s? Back then? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Huh? Yeah.

What? A lot of money. I know. Yeah, but look, I get what Cam's saying that, you know, you won't get... Here's the thing, Ocho.

If I'm auditioning for a job, it don't depend on what type of job I'm trying to get. I mean, some jobs are going to require you to wear a shirt and tie. Yes, sir.

On the interview. Yeah. Yeah. Some jobs you can go and maybe you got a college shirt and tie. Yes, sir. On the interview. Yeah. Yeah. Some jobs you can go into and play. Maybe you got a college shirt. That's good enough. What job am I trying to get would determine the type of behavior that I'm going to display on said interview?

Yeah. Agree? Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Because, hey, I'll tell you the story. I'll tell you, my grandma was in the hospital. She said, baby, prop me up because I want to fool them so I can get out of here quicker. She said, my baby, prop me up.

I'm going to fool them. I'm like, granny, you can't fool them. Yeah, I'm going to fool them. They see me sitting up here talking to y'all. They're going to say, yeah, let her go. Hey, that's funny. Don't worryall they're gonna say yeah let her go yeah she hey that's funny don't worry about ocho they never let her go she stayed she ended up from the hospital to the uh the facility yeah and uh her thing was she said oh libby you know what i want what that granny she say i sure like to go to the house one more time

she said huh she said yeah libby she said you know what Libby. She said, you know what? I know I ain't going to go back there to live, but I sure wish I could go one more time. She said, call that boy. Me. You know, my grandma, she never really called me my name. Boy, son.

Yeah. She said, Libby, call that boy and see if he come down here. Because, you know, I got to help, you know, help the people, you know, put in the van, get in the van and get her out. It's on grass. It's not, you know, it's not pavement. So it's not going to be smooth sailing. Let me call me.

She said, Shanna, uh, Brandon wants you to come down there. I said, what? She doing okay? She said she want to go to the house one more time. As they say, no more. She want to go. She said, I call the people. I said, I call the people. She called the people. They said they could do it the next day. she said I called the people I said I called the people

she called the people they said they could do it the next day I was down to the next day yeah yeah

she got in the house whoo she said boy this show feel good she's like Libby we had a we had a good time

in here with Libby Libby said yeah granted we sure did she said son take me back there to my room

so I took her back there to the room you know cause took her back there to the room, you know, cause we didn't have, cause she got sick. We didn't have time to fit the house. Cause I asked Libby, I said,

Libby, do you want us to fit the house? She said, no, Shanna. She said, you spent all that money. Grant ain't got much time.

Don't even worry about it. So I had to live with, you know, that's a lot of, you know, my grandma had fluid, her heart wasn't working fine. So her body wasn't, you know, that's a lot of, you know, my grandma had fluid. Her heart wasn't working fine. So her body wasn't, you know, she was on Lasix constantly.

So I had to, woo. But I was in my prime. Thank God. Yeah. Knock on wood. I was able to lift her up, roll her back there, let her go, let her in her room. Yeah. I say, Granny, you want me to put you in the bed?

She said, no, son. She said, you put you in the bed? She said, no, son. She said, you put me to bed. I ain't gonna leave. So, but that, that was a, that was a thing.

Yeah. She's like, she wanted to go back home one last time. I came, drove down from Atlanta, got out. Did you know the nurse? They picked up at the facility,

the nursing facility, brought her to the house. I helped them get out of the house. I took her in the house. She laughed and talked, Libby. Woo, this show lives good. Boy, go get me, go get me, go get your granny something to drink. Wash your hands, because I ain't going to tell her what you've been doing.

Lord have mercy, granny. So, you know, I washed my hands, you know. She stayed right there for about an hour. Called the people that came back, got her. She was so happy. She was like, Miss Mary, where you been? She said, I've been to my house. That was it.

So you have to understand the situation that you're in, the job, the type of job that you're interviewing for. Because these jobs, they're all job that you're interviewing for because these jobs, they're all serious. They're all business. Now, once you get them, you might, you know what I'm saying? There you go.

You can take your tie off. You can take your suit jacket off. You can be yourself a little bit more. Yeah. Uh, I guess Cam did not see that Shador went to speak to the kid at the Cleveland Public School, John Marshall High School. Shador is vowing on draft day to get involved with the youth in Cleveland and is already making good on that promise.

Shador is now the number one selling jersey among all 2025 rookie draft class. According to finale fanatics, Shador now has the number one selling jersey across the company's network of sites, including NFL shop and Cleveland Browns official shop. There are nine options to buy one items represent the 144th pick by the Browns. That's more offerings than any other pick, except the number one overall selection, Cam Ward.

Travis Hunter has seven jersey options. And all three of these items were on his number two legendary site. Mark is sold out as of this morning. That's what's up, man. I need minutes. The one thing that the Sanders can do is that they can market. His dad was tremendous at marketing. He was

unbelievable. Hey, make money. Make your money. But don't forget now, your number one job is to go win the quarterback job and make money. I ain't got no problem making money,

selling things, but at the end of the day, I want to be known for what I'm known for. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? What's up? Ocho, you had fun,

but they know Ocho Cinco known to catch that ball. Need one. And Kareem going to rise to the top of Ocho. I think he going to answer the call as far as, you know, accepting the challenge. Knowing that he'd get a chance to come in and compete for the position.

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Joshua Ilya set the Guinness Book of World Records for most full extension punches in one minute by a male. 453. Let's take a look at the video. Hey, that's nice. It's pretty. It's real cute. Hitting that bag, you know. I'm glad he set a world record. I mean, does it translate into a real fight, though?

Man, that joker had your head popping up like a pez. Have who? You know them pez? Oh. Hey, hey, I like that. Hey, Ocho, you remember them pez? That cat that came with them pez? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I remember the pez. I remember the pez, you know. You saying he can't see you, though? Huh? You saying he can't see you? Man, that's cute. That's cute, you know, for a world record. It ain't got nothing to do with no real combat sports

you know but you know I like it I like it I like it that was nice oh Joe yeah

Joe we've got actual scientists weighing in on the debate prementologists which is they study primates right said that a hundred men

can win but they must accept some will die. You're going to get some casualties now. Listen, we said that I was done. I already said I was going to be like number 99 and I was done.

I ain't going to that person, but I think we all knew that. So, the only chance you got, it's got to be a confined space and all of them rushing. But if you let him out in a space, let's just say

he out in his habitat. Right. And a hundred men rushing. We ain't gonna stay. Yeah, he gonna break some people up. Yeah. He gonna break some people up regardless. Regardless. But see, Joe, you get him in a small crowded room, a couple of y'all jump on his leg.

Hey, y'all better stay away from that mouth because he's going to bite the ish out of some of y'all. And if he get a hold of you, whoever he get his hands on, I feel sorry for you. Hey, my timeline been full of gorillas all day. All week long. Instagram, Twitter. But you know what?

People overestimate. People really overestimate that they can be. You hear people say, oh, I can be the polar bear. Or I can be the grizzly bear. What? Or I can be the hippo. Oh, yeah. Oh, I saw the hypotheticals.

With a hippo, polar bear, grizzly, and crocodile, can you survive for 20 minutes for 100 million? No. What? And I saw some girl tweeted, what is a hippo going to do to me? Okay. Hippo kill more people in Africa

than anybody because they're so territorial. Yeah. What did you see, Bess? Man, they're so territorial. Yeah. What you see best with a man that is so territorial, anything coming to a crocodile, they're about a crocodile bite force, a half and two. Lion man, ain't nobody feeling with that.

Nah. But people overestimate. Oh, I can do this. No, you can't. You not beat no lion. You not beat no tiger. You not beat no bear. You not beat no leopard, no che I can do this. No, you can't. You're not beating no lion. You're not beating no tiger. You're not beating no bear. You're not beating no leopard, no cheetah, no nothing. None of that. As a matter of fact, the funny part about it,

if they see these animals in person, you're going to be gone. Yes! You're not used to seeing it. You're used to seeing dogs. You're used to seeing cats. You're used to seeing raccoons. When you see these animals in person and you see their size and how intimidating

just being in their presence is, you'll change your confidence. Man, you see a lion head that's your head this big. Man, huge. I mean, they weigh 400 pounds, 400, 500 pounds. First of all,

a house cat jump on you and tear you up. What you think you're going to do with a 400 pound, 500 pound lion? Nothing. You can't get away from him. Hey, that's just as quick.

That's just as twitchy as a small domesticated cat. People don't understand. If he take down... If he take down... Oh, Joe. If he'll take down a buffalo, a gazelle, an elon.

So, if he take down an animal, 500, a thousand pounds, but a 200 pound, a 250 pound man, oh, I got something for him. Well,

you better have, you better have a, a, a 30, 30, 30 on six or three, something like that. A 273.

That's the only thing you got for it. And it better be a seven millimeter. Let's stop it. All right. We're going to get y'all out of here on this one. It's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Lord have mercy.

Yashin said, a 100 Lakers versus Rudy Gobert Who gets the rebound That's a good one Rudy I guess it's the Lakers today Now the Lakers are sorry Had Rudy looking like Prime Shaq. And was. Now, niggas. Cool Sharky said Kobe

disgusted Penhelver. LeBron, no final. Number 11. Ocho, you still ain't 57. Lakers got beat in five. Marquis Dollaz, Luca fried. LeBron cried. Benny Smith tried. Lakers fried, LeBron cried, Benny Smith tried,

Lakers lost in five. BJ Halstead said, blank man, meteoran, postman, Lakers,

your plane leaves for Galveston at five. Shout out to Book City, Belle Glade, Florida. Justin McNeil

said, flip side, back side, switch side, L side, switch side. Lakers are going to Cancun drinking Mai Tai. Flex appeal. High school folders. Wake up the folders.

No limit soldiers. Now it's all over. Wolves killed them in five. At six foot eight Aquarius. Eddie Murphy, Artie Murphy, Dale Murphy Murphy Brown, Wolves and Fives true and infamous Lakers are a joke

Luke and Brian broke, you can tell can't cope, MJ still the goat Matthew Villamil I don't care if you Shannon Sharp, look like a shark, baby shark. Lakers in. I'm crying. D. Chad said, Buffalo Wild Wings, all you can eat.

LeBron, as your feet. Wolves, gentlemen, sweep. Gold standard. Oh, you got to admit it now that Michael Jordan is the gold, now that LeBron didn't play like a gold. Nope, nope, nope. Gold standard. Patrick Rendon. Cancun goat. Nope, nope, nope. Gold standard. Patrick Rendon,

Cancun, Tulum, Mexico City Zoo. Lakers flight departs at 5. Avenue 77 said, oh, your flight is booked at 5 a.m. If you missed another 5 a.m., the all flights depart at 5. Y'all got a little bad story now, man. Damn.

Hey, you had to know this was coming. Okay. Wait till next year. We got something. Y'all got a little bad story now, man. Damn! Hey, you had to know this was coming. Wait till next year. We got something for y'all next year. You sound like them Cowboy fans. Andrew Harris said, good to be talking to you, Iso Joe. I was wondering if I could get a birthday shout out. Also, one thing to keep, you to enjoy your work

and keep Iso Joe. He's been a great addition. Andrew, one thing to keep, you to enjoy your work and keep ISO Joe. He's been a great addition. Andrew, happy birthday. Hopefully you did something special today. Hopefully you enjoyed your day. You went out, got a bite to eat, had a drink, celebrate, realize how fortunate that you are that you got to see another birthday. Another day, another year around the sun. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Andrew. Oh, Joe and ISO. Andrew, sun. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Andrew. Ocho and Iso. Andrew, appreciate that, bro. Happy birthday, man. Cameron Norwood Jr. said, Ocho, I agree with you about Abdul Carter for Defensive Rookie of the Year, but my question is, who's

winning Offensive Rookie of the Year? Oh, that's a good one. You got Cam, Ashton Gentry, Shador, Travis. What if Travis won both of them? Hey, that'd be funny, huh?

I think he gonna try for sure. Oh, yeah. That'd be funny. I think maybe Asenjenti cause Asenjenti's gonna touch the ball a lot I can see him

excuse me I can see him getting Ocho 250 300 carries yeah easily especially especially his rookie year Cam

Cam Cam might have a good shot at it too obviously being the quarterback and touching the ball a lot more but I don't think they have enough over there

offensively for him to win rookie of the year. So I see Asenjete probably pulling it off. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite. Your favorite number 85, Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame, the pro bowler, all pro with the cigar, victory cigar.

He had the wolves, Chad-Pro with the cigar, victory cigar. He had the Wolves, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, a.k.a. Pepe. I did have. Also, top right, Arkansas native, Isojo, proprietor of Isojo Yoga Studio. Yes, sir. I had the Wolves. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed Yes, sir. back, do the regular season, and have more fun because this has been great. So, Joe, we appreciate your contributions to Nightcap and helping us grow.

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Randle on a night when Anthony Edwards did not have it. Rudy Gobert and Julius Randle did have it, and they win. And the Rockets stay alive and force a game six, 131-116. Armin Thompson had 25 points.

Dylan Brooks had 24. Shingun had 15. Van Fleet had 26 on 4-6 from the three-point line. And Jalen Green chipped in with 11 as they win 131-116, fourth of game six on Friday in Golden State. Thank you guys for joining us. We will see you Friday. We're off tomorrow, but we're back on Friday.

Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Ocho and Iso Joe, we're out. Peace out. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional wellbeing, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, Hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.

Listen to made for this mountain on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there.

And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

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