Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Cam Newton opens up, Tyreek’s QB list, Peyton sounds off
Episode Date: January 19, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a recent episode of “Special Forces: Worlds Toughest Test,” a reality show on Fox, Cam Newton opened up about the struggles... of being a father of eight kids. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Miami Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill releasing his rankings of the top-10 quarterbacks this season, with one glaring omission… Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning saying he believes constant coaching changes are failing young QBs and much more!03:19 - Tyreek Hill releases ranking Top 10 Qbs09:37 - Peyton Manning14:36 - Derrick Henry18:10 - Cam Newton36:05 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, check this out.
Talk to me, Natch.
Tyreek Hill released his rank of the top 10 quarterbacks this season.
It's on your screen.
He got two of number one.
Lamar Jackson, two.
Josh Allen, three.
Dak Prescott, four.
Jerry Goff, five.
Brock Purdy, six.
Jalen Hurts, seven.
Kirk Cousins, eight.
Jane Daniels, nine.
Bo Nix, 10.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Now, what we need to talk about before you say anything.
Tyreek, when did you make this list?
Because I see Kirk Cousins on there,
and I'm not sure at what point you made this list,
but it couldn't have been just now or recently.
It couldn't have been.
This must have been early in the season.
I disregard everything he said because he got his quarterback one.
Well, you got to put your quarterback.
Let me ask you a question.
If you got the number one quarterback in the NFL, you got to put your question. If you got the number one
quarterback in NFL, you trying
to get up out of there?
He ain't going nowhere.
But do you say that?
No, no.
Oh, OK.
Wait a minute.
You know, right.
Right.
His quarterback ain't number
one.
Now, let's let's understand and
remember his frustrations about
doing cardio for three quarters
and understand why he said that.
And they put a camera in front of in front of his face before he can calm down.
Remember when we go to the rookie symposium?
What did the first say?
If you're angry, don't go to the media.
Calm yourself down.
Take a deep breath.
But no, soon as the game ends, camera right in his face.
He's still upset.
What does he say?
He answers emotionally and says things
he shouldn't say does he actually mean it at that time probably but once he comes down and gets back
in his right state of mind god damn it i shouldn't say that because i really the mere fact that even
if you at the mere fact i'm talking about how bad even though when when when and we're going to talk
about this yeah even when whenv wasn't getting targets,
you think Travis want to leave Patrick Mahomes?
Nah.
Now, the mere fact that he got one omission on that, I don't see the guy.
Now, this guy in the last four years, five years,
he's won three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl MVPs and two MVPs,
and he ain't on this list.
And you mean to tell me you thought Kirk Cousins,
you thought Brock Purdy, you thought Dak Prescott,
you thought Tua had a better season,
and he had a bad season based on who he is.
And you think those guys had a better season than him.
Listen, and that's what I'm talking about,
I guarantee you this list isn't recent.
I guarantee you it's not.
I guarantee you it's not.
You know?
I mean, what's that? Ain guarantee you it's not. You know?
I mean, what the hell?
It ain't like we pulled it up from three years ago.
Right.
But I'm just saying, unless this list was made to do exactly.
Ocho.
Bo Nix is on the list.
Yeah.
Bo Nix just got into the league this year.
Yeah.
But listen, that's what I'm trying to say. James Daniels just got into the league this year.
He made this list for this very specific reason.
For us to be talking and engaging
about his list. About said list.
Yes. I like it.
I like it. I like, listen, I like
everybody. I like everybody on there.
I don't like the Kirk Cousins.
I like the Kirk Cousins based on the way he plays.
You like Dak Prescott. The guy missed 10 games.
Yeah, I like Dak. What you
talking about? I'm not worried about him. I'm not talking about him
missing the game. I like Dak. We talking about body of work worried about him I'm not talking about him missing the game I like Dak we talk about body of work we talk about resume now I know you what body
hey don't don't listen don't don't just don't don't just don't don't don't disrespect Dak
like that don't do that hold on he ain't got your guy hold on you've been on me all year long
about Joe Burrow yeah you know you know Ricky ain't no Bengals fan. He don't even watch the Bucs.
He ain't no fan of nobody.
He should be a fan of, he should have,
he should have a tour,
should have been number two. Wait, who?
The backup quarterback,
Huntley.
You been, you been,
you been, you need to start like Joe.
He ain't got Joe on there.
Yeah, because this is his own personal preference on who he feels.
We can't fault a man for putting up his preference on his opinion
on who his top ten is.
Now, if we talk about quarterbacks, our top ten are going to look completely different.
His list, the moment he said Tua was better than Mahomes,
we should have disregarded everything when it comes to quarterback
that come out of his mouth. So it's null and void
after that, huh? Yeah.
Yes, because that's so
egregious. Oh, Joe,
Tua mom and dad
won't say Tua better than Mahomes boy.
You won't find nobody
in Miami.
Put it like this here.
If your
fan base would trade your quarterback for Mahomes,
Lamar, Baltimore A trading, Josh Allen,
but everybody else on this list, I guarantee you,
they would trade their quarterback for Mahomes.
You think Dallas would take Mahomes over Dak?
You think Atlanta would take him over Kirk Cousins?
Philly would take Mahomes over Jalen Hurts.
San Fran would absolutely take him over Brock Purdy.
Detroit would absolutely take him.
Oh, I got one for you.
Who?
Will the Commanders take him over Jaden Daniels?
Yeah, go ahead and think about that one now.
Yeah.
What? I would. Yeah, hell yeah. yeah go ahead think about that one yeah what
I would
yeah hell yeah
the only
the only two
well
only one
Lamar
because
now
because here's the thing
you're gonna have to
run the offense
see
the thing is
Josh
Dak
that's a drop back
Jared Goff drop back
right
Jalen Hurts
he runs a very similar West Coast-style system
to what they run in San Francisco, to what they run in Atlanta.
So there ain't going to be a whole lot, ain't going to be a whole lot of drop off.
Can you imagine my homeboy with Saquon behind him and AJ and Devontae?
You remember when he had Tyreek
and Sammy Watkins, right? Oh, yeah.
Okay. They were eating.
They were eating. Okay.
Okay. Can you imagine
if he had Jalen Waddle,
Tyreek Hill, John New Smith,
and
A-Chan?
That's nasty.
Yeah.
I don't see no Mahomes.
I don't see no Joe Burrow.
And you got some guys up there, Reek.
We wish you well.
Oh, Joe.
Yeah.
Peyton Manning says he believes the team's failed young quarterbacks
by constantly changing coaches and system.
Yeah.
It bothers me that Bryce Young is on his third play call in two seasons.
If you draft a guy, commit to a system,
learning an offense is like learning a new language.
It's not fair.
I agree.
Yeah.
Most definitely.
But listen, you got to understand, the owners are impatient.
Yes.
The owners are extremely impatient because they're thinking every time we get a
player, first round pick, we have to miraculously win right away all of a sudden.
And that's not the way it works.
Well, J. Daniels and C.J. Stroud messed it up, though.
Yeah.
Because you see what happened, though, Joe?
Yeah.
So everybody thinks that it's supposed to happen like that.
Right.
But that's few and far between.
Payton didn't go.
Elway didn't make it as rookie.
They're like, you go back and look at some of the greats and see their rookie season.
Did not make the playoffs and they did not look good.
Everybody's not going to look like a Jane Daniels.
No, everybody's not going to look like a CJ Stroud or Andrew Luck or RG3.
And then, you know, Baker played really well.
Or Justin Herbert threw 30-plus touchdowns.
Every rookie is not going to look like that.
We've got to stop thinking, Ocho, that everybody that comes out is ready-made.
Sometimes it's like a kid's toy.
Some assembly is required.
Everybody just want to open the package and just get the toy
and just get in there. Yeah, it don't work like that.
It don't work like that. Damn!
And sometimes we are spoiled by
quarterback play that is
extravagant in their rookie
season. TJ Shroud.
Other people turn the franchise
around one season.
Jake Daniels turned the franchise
around after 33 abysmal years in one season. Jake Daniels turned the franchise around after 33 abysmal years in one
season. Yes. Quarterbacks like that come around every so often. Yes. And then also the other
pieces to the puzzle got to be there too. It already had a solid foundation. All you needed
was that centerpiece to smooth out the concrete.
That's why it looks the way it does.
Yes.
But see, here's the thing.
When you come from the business world, Ocho, you can change a CEO.
And he might have an idea that like, boom.
Oh, okay.
You know what?
Ocho, you know what?
Instead of the iPod, what if I do earbuds?
What if I do a tablet?
What if I do iPad?
Right.
So I can do things.
I can have a creative.
But as a quarterback, you keep changing the play callers.
He's learning an entirely different system.
Every offseason.
How do you expect that, man?
Look at the continuity.
Even when Brady was
losing coordinators, they was running the exact
same plays. That was the same offense.
That was the same
offense.
Brent Favre
lost coordinators. That was the same
offense. That was the same.
You got to have continuity.
He needs to hear that.
It might be a different voice, but he needs that verbiage to be the same.
Yeah, you can put your spin on it.
But that was Charlie White's offense that Bill O'Brien and Josh McDaniels,
and then Josh McDaniels came and ran.
And then for some reason, Coach Belichick put two slappies in there.
They didn't know, you know, didn't know anything about offensive football,
and it messed it up.
But Peyton is absolutely right.
But the biggest mistake is that you judge, man, hey, man,
you see how his old lady treat him?
Well, I ain't got his old lady.
I got you.
So I need to try to make this work with you.
Right.
And I can't judge my relationship of what they doing over there.
I don't know what he doing.
He might be breaking on him with that Louisville slugger.
Hey, you know what I'm saying Ocho
you got a number two pouncer
and so you can't do the damage that he's doing
I'm just saying
I agree with Peyton
1000%
kind of had a conversation with him about that
is that
everybody is so quick because they want
instantaneous results.
Instant gratification and it doesn't work.
It's the lottery, Ocho.
Ocho, damn get nothing
go to work. Let me go buy this lottery ticket
and hit it. Yeah, it don't work like that.
That lottery
microwave society. Put everything in the
microwave and cook it in two minutes.
Yeah.
And if you do, anytime you have instant instant gratification it's always short-lived
always yeah short-lived you're right derrick henry says he doesn't want to be called anything
but lightning mcqueen let's take a listen let's take a listen what d henry had to say i don't
want to be calling anything else but mQueen, so don't call me that.
Just call me the king.
It was funny.
I didn't think that would be a comparison,
but I told him he needed a community where he's not playing,
but I think we got a kick in the ass on the game.
Are you telling me I have to watch more movies?
Say that again?
Are you telling me I have to watch more movies other than Pixar?
No, I just made a suggestion.
Were you serious or not?
He was like, I'm dead serious.
I was like, okay then.
McQueen it is.
But it was funny.
I don't know who he was talking to.
He said I might be too old
to watch the movie,
but I'm sure everybody
knows about the child.
And he writes something
about McQueen.
Hey, well, listen.
Derrick Henry has earned
the right to be called
whatever the hell
he want to be called.
If he want to be
Lightning McQueen,
I'm calling him
Lightning McQueen from now on, especially when we talk about the ravens game tomorrow lightning mcqueen it is
i don't know where that comes from where that comes from that's from a movie or something cars
you remember the movie cars oh okay okay okay okay okay okay okay old mater yeah
hey i got you i got you old mater Mater was my guy. I like Old Mater. God damn.
Toe truck.
Toe Mater.
Man, I used to be a,
you know,
I used to be like,
man, I'm one of those people
that probably think I'm a pervert
because I go to,
I'll be in there by myself on show.
It'd be parents with a theater full of kids.
And I'm the only big grown-ass man
in there by myself
with not one kid.
And that's me
anytime the memes comes out.
Anytime a meme movie come out,
I'm in it with all the kids.
Yeah, I'll be looking at me like,
uh,
what is this big grown-ass man
doing in a kids movie?
Watching a movie,
that's what I'm doing.
Oh, man.
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opened up about his struggles of being a father of eight kids saying i'm going into a different
phase of my life that's going to require a different form of myself being in the nfl everyone
knows there's a large sum of money that comes to you in a short span of time. And being away from the game for three years,
those checks don't come in the same.
Like I got eight kids.
It hurts me knowing that I can't provide like I once did.
It hurts me.
It hurts thinking that I'm Superman,
but in reality, I'm just a man.
I like that.
I like that.
But also, I think people are taking it a little bit out of context.
Cam is saying, I can't provide the way I once used to when the money was coming in.
Cam Newton is still able to provide for his kids, huh?
He's able to provide in the way he wants or sees fit based on when he was playing the game of football.
He should be able to, though.
You should be able to.
If people, and obviously out there,
if you understand Cam, Cam is a businessman.
Cam is a businessman.
You know, I know Cam personally.
I know what Cam has going on off the field.
Yes.
From a business standpoint.
So he is able to provide.
He just can't provide the way he like
based on the kind of money he was making back then.
And that's.
That's OK.
That's OK.
The money when the money when the money does stop coming in like that, things have to.
You know, you've got discipline.
You got you got to dumb it down a little bit and then instruction a certain way so it can last.
You got to remember this 18 years.
Well, let me ask you a question.
18 years.
So when you
have eight kids what's the likelihood that you if you have eight kids what's the likelihood that
you're going to be in the nfl until all of them reach adulthood well it's not likely at all it's
not likely at all so you factor you got to factor that in right yeah you have to oh joe when you
when you play the game you and i play play. Yeah. And so you and I
both speaking from experience.
When you factor,
when you play
and you're like,
okay,
if I'm in year five,
I'm in year six,
the average NFL career
is 3.2 years.
Yeah.
So if I'm in,
I've already,
I've already
beat the average.
Yeah.
Let's just say
I have an outstanding career.
An outstanding career is 10 years.
Well, if you still have a kid, you have a kid year 10,
you're not going to be in the NFL when that kid turns 18.
Not at all.
I think sometimes, sometimes, and let me speak for me.
I don't want to speak for anybody else.
I'm going to speak for me.
I think sometimes the problem that we run into, me, is that I was so focused on football that I neglected.
I miss recitals.
Come on now.
I miss parents' teacher conferences.
I miss football and soccer.
So what I tried to do on the back end is try to buy things.
Try to make up for it.
To make up for it.
You can't.
And when it came, when I realized I can't make up for time.
Not with money.
It's the one currency that you can't buy.
It's the most valuable currency.
I stopped.
Had a conversation with my kids.
I said, this is where we are.
I said, y'all 12, 13, 14 years of age now.
I can't get back what I lost.
At that time, 12, 13,
they still didn't understand.
Right.
It wasn't until they got to college that individually came in like,
dad,
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
He said,
yeah,
sometimes I wish you was there,
but there was never a doubt that you loved us.
You made sure we had the best of everything.
I said, that was the way that I could show you that I love you.
I say, because I grew up in a situation, my grandfather and grandmother, they never told me.
I knew they loved me because what they said, you got a roof over your head.
You got food in your stomach, just like fences.
Everything Denzel was telling his son in that movie hey that's what my grandfather and grandmother's
so i knew they loved me and so i think sometimes you try to to to get back what is lost
through money through gifts through presents through money you can't do that yeah so now
i just try to spend as much time as with them as i can
i can't get back what i lost right uh they know why i did what i did now they get an opportunity
to see the sacrifices that it takes to be a parent and i've always tried to be there like uh
and like when they have when they had questions, be a boy, obviously my daughter, my oldest daughter, she would talk.
She was more open and would talk about things like that.
My son, a little bit. He kind of a little bit more like me, a little bit more private.
They're all private, but they would open up.
And the best thing that I could do is that I could give them a point of view especially the girls from a male's point of view from an athlete
somebody that got money
and try to help them to
the game
he said this I said but let me ask you
a question he said this but what did he do
okay he did this
but what did he tell you because if he tell you he's gonna do it and he did it how you be mad at
it and so look and i get what you said because i'm looking at cam and i know people gonna say
you shouldn't have had all those kids stop having kids out of wedlock you just had a i think of what
six month old seven month old i look i understand i understand what everybody every person's going to say
about cam and for me remember i told you this conversation i had what i got with my guy marvin
dimoff in 20 29 years he's been my agent and when i got with him i said he's like so obviously you
want me to do your contract but what else i said when i'm done
i want the exact same standard of living see he's okay so the child support did increase
the private school i didn't want no situation that i had to pull the kids out of private school
my i had the same house i was still able to get the same cars, but I had nobody on payroll.
I had cars.
I didn't have no house over here.
I wasn't taking my homeboys.
Hey, we going to Cancun or Tulum.
And I got, no, it wasn't no bottle service.
Yeah.
And, you know, hey, all the ones that was, you know, that was going to college.
I say, y'all got to get student loans now. Yeah. And, you know, a all the ones that, you know, that was going to college.
I say, you all got to got to get student loans now. Yeah. See, you know, it's funny.
You see how you would you just said that discipline and that that that structure I had. Oh, you got to have it early. But I had I had it early. I didn't have someone to come and talk to me and say I understood what I was trying to do.
The kids that I did have me can ship. We in the, me and Cam, shit, we in the same boat.
Matter of fact, we in the same boat.
And plus add those that I've added on based on.
Your situation, yes.
Yeah.
But I was so good financially and understood what I wanted to do.
I never played the game of football and thought financially in the now.
I was thinking long-term already
off the rip, off jump.
How you a rookie,
you coming in the league as a youngster
and your first year,
your first two years,
your thought is already out the gate.
Get millions of dollars.
Hell, what the hell I'm buying a place for
when everything I need is right here in the stadium?
What am I going to get a place for?
Why waste the money?
So you already knew what my mindset was in Juneau
when it came to spending money off RIP coming in the league.
So as time went on and I started making more and more,
I'm nest egging and I'm hoarding everything.
And when I did decide
to spend money on
it had nothing to do
with what was coming in
on the field
it's everything
off the field
so now
I ain't played
a game of football
in 10-12 years
if you like
and I'm still living
the same exact lifestyle
that I was
way back then
as a matter of fact
that's also a testament
to the individuals I had kids from.
You know, they ain't trying to,
you know, be out here in image
and, you know,
looking nice and designing that.
How many kids you have
under the age of 18?
Three.
Everybody grown now.
Everybody grown now. I got Cha Cha
Kennedy
Cha Cha, Kennedy and French Fry
that's the last
that's it
everybody grown
everybody grown
I never struggled
I never struggled once I left the NFL you know why
Ocho? Cause you were cheap like me
no because football
was what I did it wasn't who I was
I never lost who I was
I understood
come on now
that football was a part of my life
it wasn't my life right was I dedicated
to it absolutely
but it wasn't my life. Right. Was I dedicated to it? Absolutely. Absolutely.
But it wasn't your identity.
No.
Okay.
No.
No.
I was a small kid
from rural South Georgia.
Mm-hmm.
I was Mayport's grandson.
I was Sterling
and Cheryl Sharp's brother.
Mm-hmm.
I'm the youngest of three.
Mm-hmm.
A very disciplined,
determined,
and dedicated young man.
I knew what I wanted from a very young age.
I wanted my kids to not have to worry about things that I had to worry about as a kid.
I didn't want them to spend one day in a life that I that I had to spend 20 years in.
They weren't equipped like that.
So how do I make that happen
I had a singular focus
a singular focus
because I knew once it was over it was going to be over Ocho
that's why I never like
man
man I wish I could have got me
no I gave it everything I had
14 years I got
look here Ocho I had
I squeezed all the orange, got juice,
I ate the inside, and then I
took the pill and got zest.
I got everything out of that orange.
And when I was done,
got my shoulder pads,
I remember
Doug West and Chips, hey,
84, you want your shoulder pads?
Put them in a box, put my helmet, put, 84, you want your shoulder pads?
Put them in a box.
Put my helmet,
put my shoes,
cleaned out my locker.
You know what?
I need to make sure before they send it to me
to get rid of all those magazines
and those pictures
that I got in my locker
where you don't have.
You know,
they send me a little something.
I didn't get rid of those.
Yeah.
I don't want them
coming to the houses.
And somebody, if I had those, but I had to get up and get them both though. But that's the of those. I don't want them coming to the house. And somebody if I had those,
but I had to get up and get up and go though.
But that's the biggest thing.
I think sometimes a lot of times, Ocho,
people's identity is tied to the sport that they play.
Yeah.
And they get lost with, who am I without it?
Who am I?
What am I?
That's the bad part.
And we wonder why the percentage of us that go broke two
years removed from the game whatever game is we play we go broke because of that identity that
image we try to portray not only while we're playing but once we stop playing when the checks
stop rolling in yeah when you keep spending and you ain't got that kind of money coming in. It's impossible.
It's impossible to keep up with that lifestyle.
Impossible.
Yes.
Imagine.
It was a time, you know, just for contact with people at home,
and I can tell you now it don't matter now.
It was a time every goddamn Monday I'm making $350,000 a week.
Can you imagine making $350,000 a week?
That's my idea. Man looking i'm looking at dudes
now you know um they living their life i can i can imagine what them checks look like you making
350 every every every every monday imagine what they they got 60 million what that check look like
looking like today but this is the problem huh is in today's game they plan the young they plan the young bulls much more money right
but the young bulls today they feeling like well damn i'm making this much money but it's just
going out on and they're not paying attention the more you get people say well you know if you give
me more money then i'll be all right but if you ain't got no financial discipline it don't matter
what they give you you still gonna still going to overspend.
And when you're going to hook up, man, there don't be nothing left.
You got to think about people in the chat.
You could just think about this.
Think about wherever you from.
Think about people that you know personally.
It could be in the streets or could be business.
They had money at one time, at one point.
Somebody was on top of the world.
Where they at now? You at one point. I'm talking about it was hot. It was on top of the world. Where they at now?
Unc, you got many stories.
You know, you ain't got to say no name.
You can just think about the stories.
Yeah.
You know how many times I had homeboys call,
hit me up, that I played with?
Can you let me hold five?
Can you let me hold ten?
Man, what's that?
And they made way more money than I did, Ocho.
Man, Unc, what's that going to do for you, though?
That ain't nothing.
Me giving you five grand, me giving you 10 grand,
ain't going to do nothing because you're going to be right back
in the same position again anyway.
Because guess what?
Because that's what you see what you said.
What did you say?
Give.
Because I don't lend money anymore.
I'll only give money back. I know that I'm not going to give back. Yeah. I know you're i'll only give money back i know that i'm not gonna get back yeah
i know you're not gonna give it back because why the hell you come to me in the first place
right yeah because i hey when i was in the league hey man let your boy hold 2500 i say man if you
hey go to the bank they're like man the bank don't want their inch back i don't want my
money back what the hell you mean the bank won't dance i inch back. I'm going to want my 4-4 money back. What the hell you mean? The bank want theirs.
I want mine.
So you know what I start doing, don't you?
I say, you know what?
Hey, here's your one-time withdrawal.
Right, and that's it.
One time, huh?
That's it.
That's your one-time withdrawal.
Well, shoot, since we're on the topic of money, man,
I can go ahead and keep that $5,200 I owe you, huh?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Mm-mm. Oh, I don't know no i don't know who told you that oh no and my money's drawing interest in your pocket that's fine i can put it that's fine
oh so i could take that little i can take a little 5200 put it in a cd yeah because right
now the cd is really good now the interest rate is about to come down.
Yeah, they finna come down now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But see, no, no, no, no.
I need that.
Okay.
I can put that thing in a little money market,
pay me a little 4%, 5%. Right.
I mean, it ain't much.
Oh, it's some.
It's some.
But listen, how much interest is it going to be
when I pay you on February 6th?
It's $5,200 right now.
I'm charging you
$1.35 a day.
Damn, $1.35?
Yeah.
$1.35?
Where'd $1.35 come from?
$1.35, that's my interest rate.
5%?
Hey, 5%? Hey, 5% on $5,200
alright
you know what Ocho says
you set it 5 cents a day
5% on $5,200
and that was 10%
that would be $520
so that would be
$260 for half, 5%.
So $260, yeah, send the $5.
Okay.
Okay.
How about, you know what?
I'll give you $5,200.
How about I just give you $6,000?
Matter of fact, we're going to start the show like that.
Okay.
At the live show in the morning, we're going to start the show with me paying you $6,000.
I'm going to give you $6,000.
I'm going to give you $6,000 flat to start start the show just to show the people i paid your money i sure appreciate that man i'm
sure i'm only i'm only able to pay you by the grace of god you know yeah yeah i'm able to pay
you you know by the grace of god i got 50 lem jobs and and and i'm in a good space right now
i'm in a good space and I'm feeling good.
Well, I was going to have them deduct like 60 from your money. Oh, God. Hey. hey
but hey but yeah that's the thing to Ocho I just wish these guys now Ocho
with what they know now and the money that you can invest and the return that you can get yeah yeah but but also but you get some get somebody you
know get somebody that's trustworthy trustworthy homeboy i ain't i ain't invested with no homeboy
i don't do that i ain't got no file hey uh-uh because you don't owe you a lot of time
hey man invest i ain't invested in no club no i ain't invested oh nah bro no i need to go i need
hey because you know everybody got an idea what to do with your money oh yeah always no I ain't investing nah bro no I need to go I need hey mm-mm
mm-mm
cause you know
everybody got an idea
what to do with your money
oh yeah always
man if I had your money
yeah
it's never there
watch how I flip
and listen
they never have proof
of flipping their own
in it being successful
yeah
but wanna use mine
ain't happening
alright guys
now it's time for our
final segment of the evening
it's time for Q&A. Damn, I enjoyed
this tonight, but this is a good one.
Nick Mars said, Jaden Daniels
going to be a problem in the league for a long
time. I'm so disappointed that you
talking safety the other day and never mentioned
Atwater. Dude was a beast. Ocho,
will you sign my jersey during the meet
and greet in NOLA?
Atwater was a different type of a safety.
Atwater was more of an in-the-box safety.
Water was great.
A teammate of mine from 90 to 98, he left after that one season.
In 99, he went to the Jets.
But he's been back.
He worked for the Broncos now.
So me and Water, we have a great relationship.
I was talking, look, there are a lot of safeties
that I didn't mention that I have the utmost respect for,
but we were talking about the greatest safeties,
and I feel for me, Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I saw.
Watch don't take.
Now, mind you, I played in the era had Ronnie Lott at safety,
Rodney Harrison, David Fulcher,
you remember Adwater, Brian Dawkins,
John Lynch.
I mean, I played against some
Troy Palomalu. I mean, I played
against some great safeties.
But listen, Ed and Troy were
different.
People don't understand. Ed and Troy
were different. Ed, I mean, Ed, obviously he didn't play in the box.
Troy played a little bit more around the box.
Yes.
Around the line of scrimmage.
Special.
Goddamn, Ed Reed is the only safe they ever seen.
Most of the time, you know, when the ball hikes, you backpedal.
Yeah.
And I just see Ed look like he's playing punt return to safety and come
forward at the snap of the ball because he knows what's coming
because of film study, jumping crosses, and being anticipating,
man, I ain't never seen nothing like that.
He's the only safety that I've seen completely turn his back.
I mean, he would literally be facing the other way,
his back to the quarterback and be where he's supposed to be. Where he's back, to the quarterback. Uh-huh.
And be where he's supposed to be. Where he's supposed to be, yeah.
He was sensational.
Florida man,
Jaden Daniels
is now tied with Dak Prescott
in career playoff wins.
I ain't got nothing,
I don't even know why they,
they ain't got nothing to do with me,
but we know.
Because that's where the quarterback
makes his money.
All the great to be the regular season,
but when the money needed,
Hey,
when we shove all them chips to the middle of the table,
single elimination.
That's where it matters most.
Huh?
That's where it matters the most.
Yes.
Hello. Three, two, one's where it matters the most. Yes, sir. Hello,
three,
two,
one,
six,
five,
four.
This is the beginning of Dan Campbell's getting treated like
Syriana era.
Losing both coordinators is going to hurt.
Excuse me.
Eagle versus commanders.
Uh,
Eagles versus commanders.
It's going to be nuts.
Yeah.
He's probably going to lose both of them.
Uh,
hopefully he got good quality people on staff because they have a good team.
Yeah.
You have a good team,
but you're going to only get so many cracks at this.
You got to cash it in sooner or later.
And that window's short.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When the opportunity presents itself,
his quarterback, he didn't play well tonight.
If you get beat and you play your best football, Ocho,
you're like, you know what?
They just outplayed us today.
What's painful is when you don't play your best,
it's obvious you didn't play your best.
And you get it handed to you. Yeah.
By a team that everybody thought you were going to beat.
Yes.
You turn it over.
You bring them up to your level.
Ken Williams said, do you think Armand Ross needs the media to tell him
Naomi Brown's stats this game gave them bulletin board material
and got humble?
Me.
So let me ask you a question.
If Armand Ross St. Brown didn't say anything,
would they have played this game on Saturday?
Yeah.
That's what I tell them all the time.
It doesn't matter if I say a little or say a lot.
We still got to kick it off.
Yeah.
Armand Ross St. Brown played good.
He had a great game. did he have 137 140
what did he end up having Ochoa
I think he had a hell of a game
yeah
but
when your quarterback turns it over like that
you gonna lose
he could have had 300 yards
you turn the ball over like that
you gonna lose every time let's see what I don't give a damn. He could have had 300 yards. You turn the ball over like that, you're going to lose.
Every time.
Let's see what...
He had eight for a buck 37, had 10 targets.
Gibbs had 14 rushes for 105 yards.
Think about it.
You have 23 rushes for 201.
Quarterback played through for 313.
So you had a little 500 yards of total offense, Ocho,
but you had four turnovers.
And lost because of the turnovers.
That's the equalizer.
You played double for those.
Well, that first half, man, God, I'm still thinking about that first half. the equalizer. You play double for those.
That first half, man.
God, I'm still thinking about that first half.
Boy, that was some
beautiful football, man.
That was an offensive
masterclass from both
sides of the ball.
Wow.
What do you call it, man?
70 plus plays.
Elijah Moses.
Hey, Uncle Nocho with JD
Bo Nix
CJ have an exceptional
rookie season
what do you think
expectations for
quarterbacks
excelling early
in the season
gonna look like
in the near future
that's the problem
you can't base
somebody else
you know
that's like you know
hey somebody
getting a job
right out of college
and then you look
at something
you don't get one
and you look at yours like it's a failure.
You can't look at it like that.
Some people are going to have success earlier.
There are a lot of guys that when I got into the league, they
had success, Ocho,
earlier. You got in the league. Guys that
came out in your draft had success
earlier. Damn.
We all develop
at, you know, sometimes some of us
are
fast developers, and some of us are fast developers
and some of us, it takes a little bit more time.
Everybody just want this thing so instant now.
Man, you see what he did?
Okay.
It puts a lot of pressure because everybody want, like, man,
you saw what CJ did.
You saw what Jane Daniels did.
Right,
man.
Bo Nix,
three quarterbacks in the park,
you know,
got their team in the playoffs.
So now everybody's going to think that's that bro.
It's not easy making the playoffs.
It's even harder winning games in the playoffs because all the focus is on you they've
broken you down they know pretty much what you're gonna do how you're gonna do it from down in
distance to area on the field to formations got a whole lot of film to go off of yes and those Yes. And those coaches are scouring. They spend 80, 100 plus hours breaking it down.
But yeah, it puts a lot of expectations on, you know.
It's just like anything, Ocho.
You have a girlfriend, they have a boyfriend, expectation.
Well, he treated me like this.
Well, she did this.
You probably should have stayed with her.
Yeah.
You probably should have stayed with him. Because I'm me.
One thing about it, you know
what they say now.
Certain people, depending on who you're with,
bring a different side of you out.
Yeah.
You're right. You're right on your own. You ain't wrong
now.
Some of them brain good
some of them
bad
he said
what
now you
you brain
the bad
out of me
I gotta
let you
go
hey
I gotta
let you
go
you
hey
it ain't
so many
times I
can argue
it ain't
so many
times you
know you
come in and
talk about
this and
that
this is
that you
know
any word
not at
this stage
not at
this stage of my life no you know when I was a little bit in my 20s i was
a little bit more toxic you know you can wait you waste a little time then you can wait yeah yeah
yeah i ain't got okay i i ain't got that many summers i ain't got that many summers
hold on i'm gonna use that word. I got to use that in my next argument.
I ain't got that many summons, son.
Jean Michael.
I ain't got that many summons to be told, too.
Okay, bet.
I like that.
With golf performance tonight,
do you think this will create doubt within the Lions team
that he's the right quarterback that can lead them to the Super Bowl.
No.
Had a bad game.
He picked the wrong time to have a bad game.
He had a bad game.
Yeah.
I mean, the guy's going to the Pro Bowl.
I mean, he had a phenomenal year.
Phenomenal.
But see, that's why we love football so much.
Because we throw everything you've done out the window.
What you did the entirety of the season ain't got no impact on the game right now.
At all.
What you going to do tonight?
What you going to do today?
What you did doesn't impact today or tonight.
Today or tonight impacts today and tonight.
So, no, I don't think it creates any doubt. Flam said, what's up, Uncle Nocho?
What do you guys think about Chris Boyd pushing
Frank Ross? Passion or disrespect?
Let's go
block. Yeah, he was passionate.
I'm trying to figure out, Uncle, what
he mad about? You took your
helmet off.
Uncle, I'm like, hold on.
What's he mad about?
Can you help? Maybe you know. What was he upset about, Coach? Say, son, I'm like, hold on. What's he mad about? Can you help?
Maybe you know.
What was he upset about, Coach?
Saying, son, I'm sure he said, look, let's not do anything dumb.
Let's not give him any cheap.
Is that what you really want to do?
That's why you want to start the game on the road,
giving up a 15-yard penalty after a 50-plus-yard run back?
Yeah.
So I'm trying to figure out,
I'm like, so what are you mad at him for?
Right.
I think what he was hyped about,
about making the tackle for one
and making the fumble,
the fumble happening.
I want to see if he realized
they didn't get the ball, though.
Yes.
You know, and he was so hyped,
he ran to the sideline,
and that's emotion,
him and his coach.
Ocho, but he took his helmet off.
Oh, yeah, emotion. Emotion, coach. Ocho, but he took his helmet off. Oh, yeah.
Emotion.
Emotion.
Making a play.
Starting the game.
He hype.
Special team player.
I'm not sure if he sees the field often,
but obviously making a play like that,
a game of that magnitude,
got to look beside himself.
Keep your emotions in check.
Yes, sir.
Because they get you beat.
Yeah.
Because I'm sure you said, let's not make it a one play where the officials can swing it one way or another.
Yes, sir.
Dave Smith said, everyone knows when in doubt, 15 is going to 87.
When they need a play, Z, let Kelsey get wide open.
I don't think he let, I mean, it was a great play.
Yeah, it was.
For the big play, kickstarted their offense,
and a touchdown to seal the game.
Mahomes was out there flopping like in the NBA,
give credit for the win.
But come on, man.
Those two rough in the passer calls on Mahomes was ridiculous.
This ain't the NBA man we're
man we're
flopping
told you
flopping
especially that one
on the
especially that one
not really under the chin
right here on the
shift plate
and he slipped
a little bit
that flag came out
so fast
when in doubt
uh Repent says when in doubt uh
Repent says
if the Chiefs dynasty
because of
controversial cause
many people believe it's fixed like the WWE
I personally disagree
no
ain't nobody gonna remember this
I mean a lot of people don't remember when you go back and look they
don't realize think about how the Patriots started that was a fumble yeah oh the Oakland game the
snow game yes yeah that was a fumble the tuck rule it was so egregious, they took the play out.
Yep.
Who knows what would have happened? That was the
start of a dynasty. Who
knows what would have happened
had that play, had
the Raiders got that ball?
We'll never know.
News 864.
I know Jerry Jones looking dumb right now.
Dan Quinn was in the building last year
and he let it walk. Now he's going to the
NFC Championship game. Something Jerry hasn't
done since the 95 season.
96. So here we are, Ocho,
29 years.
Later.
Yes. That was the only reason
Dan Quinn didn't take a yacht job the previous year.
Because he thought he was going to get the job.
He thought, hey, we're going to let Mike McCarthy go and we're going to let DQ.
Dang.
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I like what I'm seeing from the commanders.
Once Jared Garth threw that pick six, I knew it was over.
Good win for the Washington team.
And a shout-out to the Kansas City Cheats.
It's not Kansas City.
You make it seem like Kansas City throwing flags
on the other team
tactical
lupus
where is
class of fiscal responsibility
coming out and how can Brock
get paid less than Tua
Lawrence and Golf Watson love, Love or Hertz?
Will his agent get him right or is he on a coupon? Listen, O2O economics will probably never come out
because when I, when we think about it, obviously it would be for the athletes, for those who make
large sums of money in a short, short amount of time and everyone is too caught up in image,
looking a certain way. And,
uh,
you know,
once they make it,
they want to make sure they attain that image that they have to portray of
having money.
And ain't nobody,
ain't nobody dumbing down their lifestyle the way I have,
or the way I did,
you know,
when I was playing the way I do now,
you know,
they did,
they just wouldn't,
they just wouldn't know impossible. And I, I, I see it all the time. I was playing the way I do now, you know, they did, they just wouldn't, they just wouldn't know impossible.
And I, I, I see it all the time.
I was able to do it during that time when I was playing,
because I found a way where I can make my name
just as valuable as anything I could purchase.
I'm not saying
you get, I'm saying.
But Ocho, after you got your house,
let's just say,
yes, I do.
My name was just as valuable.
I'm still Ocho
whether I'm in a Prius or I'm in a Rose.
I could have wore a goddamn trash bag.
Oh shit, then go Ocho.
It didn't matter.
I didn't need the jewelry.
I didn't need the change. I didn't need the change.
I didn't need the car.
You know,
it was nice to have
just the fact that
knowing I can go get it,
that was all I need.
My name was
just as big
or bigger than anything
I could purchase.
So there was no point.
Ocho,
you get $30 million.
You're making $30 million
a year.
You're like,
okay,
I'm going to go get my mom
and dad a house, so forth.
So whatever the case may be. Nice little house.
Give them a little $350,000, $400,000
home. Something they can maintain.
They don't need no $2, $3 million crib.
Right. Okay.
Let's just say, you know
what, man? I always wanted me a nice watch.
Okay, you want to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars for
a watch to take off. Yeah.
I get me two,
three cars, Ocho. At that point in time,
how many cars do I need?
Do I need a block of ten cars, Ocho?
Do I need to get...
If I get a Ferrari, I don't need a Lambo.
If I get a Rolls,
I don't need a Bentley.
If I get a
Lambo truck, I don't need a Cullinan.
You see what I'm saying, Ocho?
Yes, sir.
Do I really need a $15 million CREA, Ocho?
I don't.
Do I need to get a private?
No, you don't need a private jet.
If you want to fly private, get timeshares.
Me, personally, hey, unless that's an absolute, I absolutely positively got to get there.
Got to be there.
Friendless guys, hey, Delta, we love to fly in these shows.
I love being here.
Bro, that's all I'm saying, Ocho.
I ain't saying don't get some nice things.
You want some nice things, your hard work, reward yourself for the hard work.
Right.
But at what point in time do I need to get like, I need to have 10 cars?
I don't.
I don't.
And that's the mistake some of us make.
We don't need a Lambo truck, a Cullinan truck,
a Ferrari, a Lambo,
a Bentley,
a G-Wagon.
Do we really need all that, Ocho?
We don't.
We never do.
But you know when you're young,
you want to live like the
rappers, even though you make 10 times more than the rappers.
And you see them with all the chains and the cars and the, oh, only if you understand.
Oh, IG.
Sometimes IG have me question myself.
I was like, well, damn.
I be calling my people, hey, y'all ain't paying me enough.
Hey, don't.
Because how they got all, all i'm like how every rapper
fly private uh don't don't don't fall for that i know they're not because i see a lot of rappers
on my flight i do i'm talking about big name ones and a lot of these ones that ain't got no big name
they probably like well he okay ain't none of my business.
Stephan Holmes said, hello from Buffalo.
Josh Allen earns less than top quarterback salary.
Josh is about to get a contract extension that's going to pay him probably $290,
maybe $300 million.
Josh Allen's about to get $61, $62 million a year. Will this postseason impact his chance at top pay,
or has he already proven he deserves it?
Proven it.
Been to playoffs every year.
There are a lot of guys that don't make the playoffs every year like he has.
He's definitely one of the top quarterbacks.
He's going to get top money.
He's about to be the highest paid.
Yeah, most definitely.
And I ain't got no problem with that.
And guess what?
Guess who's going to come right behind him next year?
Mahomes.
And Lamar.
Again?
Yeah.
Next year, Lamar will be the third year of that contract.
Damn, it's been three years already?
Yes.
After next year, it'll be three years.
Yeah.
Two MVPs?
Three, three, three.
That's what I'm saying.
Since he signed that contract
he would have won his second
oh yeah
do Lamar
Lamar said look I'm going to need 70
I ain't lying
watch
did I miss anybody
no
from Cincinnati
but I've lived in San Antonio, Texas
bring back
the Esteban shirt
I have an orange
and one
I have an orange
and one black
in 2010
what is that?
Esteban
like the first name
for Ocho Cinco
is Esteban Ocho Cinco
oh
that's Steven right? Esteban yeah basically yeah in Spanish it's Steven
right
yeah
basically
in Spanish
it's Steven
yeah there you go
yeah
so you know
mi llama
Vicente
hey you know
my name was
Vinson
yeah
you ain't know
that don't be
llama Vicente
yeah
oh yeah
go back
well I ain't heard
that in a long time
you ain't know
oh sheh Esteban uh Jordan Carly said Go back. Well, I ain't heard that in a long time. You ain't no old shey.
That's the bomb.
Jardine Carly said, Shannon Ocho, can I get a shout out for my 56th birthday?
You absolutely can, Jardine.
Thank you so much for tuning in and watching Uncle Ocho on Nightcap.
We appreciate your support and happy 56th birthday.
Hopefully you did something fun or you're about to do something fun.
Hey, what you going to do though?
Yeah.
Hey, hold on.
There you go.
Miss Geraldine, you single?
That's right up your alley, huh?
What alley?
What you mean?
I ain't been to the alley long time.
I left Chicago.
Ain't no alley where I'm at.
Nah, 56, that's right where you need to be.
What?
My sweet spot, my sweet spot, spot you know half my age plus seven
what's half my age plus seven okay i got you i got you give or take a year or two okay
i'm saying
join over here laughing You know hey 33 34
Okay
You know
I got you
34
34 to
60
Huh?
Nah
You know they say
34
30
Nah nah
About 33
33
To 45 46 Man 34, not about 33, 33 to 45, 46.
Man, you about-
50, 50, okay, 50.
Listen, I'm telling you what I know.
Get you 160, 65 and watch what happens to you.
You'll never be the same.
Tell you, listen, Thar's bow leg about 150 160 you know
nah man
what about
33 34
I won't be the same
I ain't be the same
I ain't be the same
mocho
man let me stop
man
they be
they be
they be killing me
man that's your problem
messing with them young girls hey man they messing killing me. Man, that's your problem. Mess with them young girls.
Hey, man.
They messing with me.
We like.
We messing with each other.
We like what we like, man.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know what.
Look, Ocho,
why can't I be with somebody
that like me?
Right.
As long,
I don't down somebody
that's not
the age that I'm talking to.
I don't date somebody
if they're not in the same race that I am.
I don't feel I need to put down anybody
just because I'm with somebody
that's not in that age or that race.
That ain't what I do.
I'm confused but here's the thing but people quick to say
oh she only with it but then they turn around and say well hey he can't be with nobody unless
he dropped the bag anyway so i mean so if i they only with me for the bag and i can't be with
nobody unless i drop the bag so So what difference does it make?
You right.
The problem is you weren't going to be the one to get the bag dropped.
That's the problem.
Damn.
Don't worry about me.
I'm okay. Ocho, leave me alone, man. Let me live, Ocho. me alone man
let me live Ocho
I would just suggest something that's all
just a little suggestion it wasn't nothing much
I mean you ain't got
how real
37
37
see
you ain't got nobody your age 57
that ain't got nobody your age, 57.
That ain't what you looking for.
You went and found you somebody in the late 30s.
Yeah, well, they came and found me.
Okay.
They find onk.
Okay, I'm with you. They find onk. I got you. I They fine. Oh, okay.
I'm with you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
There you go.
I know you're going to say something slick.
I ain't going to say nothing.
You right.
You right about that.
You right about that.
What you need to do, you need to go find Michelle.
You always look for boogey. I wasn't even thinking about that.
You just mentioned the other night.
Yeah, that was the other night.
I was on that type of time. I wasn't even
on that tonight. Oh, I'm glad.
All right, guys. That concludes
this episode of Nightcap.
Kansas City Chiefs. For seven consecutive years, Ocho,
for the last 14 years, the Patriots or the Chiefs
have been the AFC Championship game.
That's crazy work.
14 years, only two teams have been the AFC Championship game.
Crazy work.
One of these two teams have for 14 consecutive years.
Chiefs will face the winner
of the Baltimore Ravens
and the Buffalo Bills.
The Washington Commanders
will face the winner
of the Rams and the Eagles.
One of those teams
will have a home field game
for a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
That's crazy.
Crazy.
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The Commanders stunned the Detroit Lions, 45-31.
They take the ball away, including a pick six off Jerry Goff.
They take the ball away four times.
Jane Daniels had 299 passing yards and two touchdowns.
Jerry Goff committed four of the Lions' five turnovers,
including throwing a pick six.
The defense had no answers for Washington's offense,
and they racked up 482 total yards, only punted once.
They move to the NFC Championship game to take on the winner of the Chargers,
the Rams, and the Eagles.
And Kansas City advanced to their seventh consecutive
AFC Championship game over the Houston Texans.
Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey came up big.
The Chiefs haven't turned the ball over, Ocho, in eight straight games,
which is an NFL record
you win games if you don't turn it over they won the game 23 13 23 14 excuse me Travis Kelsey
set an NFL record with his ninth postseason game of 100 yards nine uh increased his reception lead
with 172 and moved second into receiving yards
and second to receiving touchdown.
He had an outstanding day.
Trav Nephew turned the hands of time back
and had an outstanding day as they went 23-14.
And they advanced to the championship
and they'll face the winner of Baltimore and Buffalo.
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We'll see you tomorrow night after the championship, and they'll face the winner of Baltimore and Buffalo. Thank you for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Buffalo.
I think it's the Buffalo after the Buffalo Baltimore game.
We'll see you after that game.
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