Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: CFP Championship + Jameis Winston QB1 in NY + Jaire Alexander STEPS AWAY from Eagles + Nico Harrison OUT in DALLAS + Klay Thompson BAMBOOZLED by Mavs + Morris Twins VS Jokic Brothers

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson are joined by Texas A&M star receiver KC Concepcion to talk about the great start to the season, Jameis Winston is going to... start for the New York Giants this week, and Philadelphia Eagles corner Jaire Alexander is stepping away from football and much more! 0:00 - Jameis Winston to start for Giants7:15 - Eagles cornerback Jaire Alexander steps away from football15:20 - Details emerge over Nico Harrison Firing33:50 - Lakers offered for Klay Thompson but he went to Mavs37:27 - Iso Joe Foundation Thanksgiving Drive43:30 - Paul Pierce taking Morris twins over Jokic Brothers in street fight52:19 - NBA new All Star Game format1:01:07 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 This is a space where men speak truth and find the power to heal and transform. I'm Mike De La Rocha. Welcome to Sacred Lessons. Listen to Sacred Lessons on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, hey, you know, it's funny on? Yeah. When you talk about the speech impediment thing, it's like, I don't think I have a speech impediment thing.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I think I have a problem is I get anxious, like when we're talking. You know how fast I start talking. You have a cursing thing. Yeah. Me? Me? Yeah. No, it ain't talking about me.
Starting point is 00:02:55 You're like you. Right. I don't think cursing it is the issue. I don't think, is that a, is there, is there a word for that? If you, if you curse a lot when you, yeah, but I tell you off the camera. Okay, okay, okay. But I do have a, hey, I start talking fast on.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then you know what I do? Yeah, I don't know if you notice it. I say the same thing twice before I even start the sentence. Mm-hmm. Like, I don't know. It's weird. It's like I get all anxious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Uh, Ocho, you guys going to finally get a start. Giants interim head coach Mike Kafka revealed that James Winston. Hey. Dr. Russell Wilson will start as quarterback in week 11 against the Packers with Jackson Dart on the sideline. Man, pass over Russ, who was the start of the season, then went to number two. Yes. Dart gets hurt. Russ goes to numbers.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He's numbers two still. Yes. James leapfrogged. Oh, Joe, what, what do you think? What do you think about this? I think the coaches, obviously, the interim coach is trying to get a spark out of the offense. They've seen enough, I'm assuming from Russell Wilson being the starter when Jackson Dart went in and then hearing the reaction from the crowd and the offense really not being able to get going.
Starting point is 00:04:12 They want something new. They want to see what James Winston can get in there and do and see if they can have somewhat of a spark. We all know he is one that's liked by everybody and he can have flashes of brilliance, on the field. The only thing with James Winston, all we need is a little consistency. Can we get consistency out of you week in and week out and give us a chance? Listen, I think their playoff chances are probably out the door. But can you keep our team and head above water and let us compete, you know, until the end of the season?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Well, I'm sure Jack and God will come back, what, maybe what, in two weeks on? Probably so. I mean, he's going to, well, he's out this week. Maybe, maybe, maybe they missed, maybe give him two weeks on, Joe. the week because like I said since the preseason this is the fourth time now we know he's been checked for a concussion yeah go ahead go ahead Joe uh so this is uh jamison first time uh getting getting action during the season yeah this is jamis first time uh starting for the giants yeah i think he played he played a little bit he played i think one preseason game he played in one
Starting point is 00:05:17 preseason game played really well um but like ocho said james's problem has always been consistent consistency. Look, he's the number one pick in the draft. He won the Heisman trophy as a freshman. He led his team to a national championship. So we know he has the talent to play, but he's been turnover prone far too much. We saw last year he threw for almost 500 yards,
Starting point is 00:05:41 but it was the turnovers that really cost this team of victory. Right, right. Tremendous highs, incredible lows. So he just has to find a way to be consistent. And if he can be consistent, that gives him a chance to be successful and it also gives his team a chance to be successful.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But I want to say I'm surprised but I don't think I am. I don't think I'm surprised by this move because Hey, I know one thing. I know one thing about this move. It's going to be exciting because ain't no telling what the hell for it to happen. Anytime James is in there, ain't no
Starting point is 00:06:18 telling. And I can't wait for anything. Five and five, Ocho. Ain't that subway got the five and five? Yeah, no. Five touchdowns, five and a seven. No, no. What I was talking about when you left, I say, if he's just consistent,
Starting point is 00:06:32 Ocho, the man's the number one picking the draft for a reason. He won a husband trophy, let a team to a national champion. She can throw that ball, boy. Yes. Hey, hey, he can't turn it over, though, Ocho. Yeah, you're never going to be that great that you can overcome their amount of turnovers that he have.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Remember last year, Ocho, what was that, a Thursday night game against the Broncos? He threw for damn to 500. But it was the president. pick six. It was the three turnovers that ended up undoing the great job that he had done. Remember Jerry, Judy goes back, has 235
Starting point is 00:07:01 yards receiving. He and James was cutting up. Yeah. And then James, they started housing him. Yeah. Oh, Joe, the last guy we had on Casey Conception, and there are some people in the chat kind of making fun of him. They're like, man, let everybody
Starting point is 00:07:15 else talk. In a situation like that, I had already gotten brief that he has a speech impediment. And when he gets nervous or he gets anxious, he sturders, stutters. So that's why you heard him repeat himself a lot. But if you notice, Ocho, when we first started, he gives us one word answers and go. And so instead of go and let you ask him something, let Joe ask something,
Starting point is 00:07:38 I said, let me get him comfortable. Let me get him relaxed. Once he gets relaxed, he'll slow down. He'll feel more comfortable because right, every time he talks, he thinks people are judging him. So if you think somebody's judging him, what you're going to do? I'm not gonna talk on be reclusive. Right, right. I'm gonna say as little as possible, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And then he gonna clam up. But if you notice, once we got him comfortable, we started talking about cooking. We started talking about things that he liked and he feel comfortable with. You see, I opened up and you couldn't even tell. So that's why I kind of took the approach that I took. And a lot of times, yeah, sometimes I'll let Ocho,
Starting point is 00:08:18 because if it's somebody like I know Ocho knows, I'll let Ocho lead it off. But in this situation, I just felt, Instead of going back, ping pong, you know, tennis and ping pong back and forth, I just felt let me start it. Let me get him comfortable. Somebody that had a speech impediment still talks with a list and have a heavy cloakal southern dialect. Let me make him comfortable. And if we can get him comfortable, we can get him to open up because it's hard to have an interview if a guy just continuously gives us one word answers.
Starting point is 00:08:45 So that's kind of why the approach that we took the approach that we took the night with this gentleman. But he did great. Look forward for him to coming back. And once we started talking about, hey, he started cooking Valentine's Day. Yeah, he got to hope. I just hope you got done what you need to get done before you cook that. Because you put them heavy potatoes and steak of the system. She's going right to sleep.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But I'm not, I can't say that I'm surprised that James is getting to start because you know why? Russ is not going to be there next year. they've already seen what Russ can do. Let's see if James can give us that spark. Because that's what Jackson Dark did. Jackson Dark came in and gave him a spark, Ocho. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Now, let's see, let's see, because they saw Russ come in and the offense just went in the tank, the defense went in the tank, everything just went to hell in a handbasket. Let's see if James can give us a spark like he's done so many times before. He did it in New Orleans for a while. He did it in Cleveland last year. so let's see if you can give us a spark.
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Starting point is 00:15:15 before being moved tallying five tackles. Ocho, what's going on? You know, the injuries, is it desire? What do you think? A combination? I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:15:30 When it comes to someone that I've always enjoyed watching, like Jail Alexander, understanding what he brings to the table as a defender, obviously I think injuries have hampered his career a little bit. And kind of de-reled everything. So I don't know what's going on with him mentally, but it has to be something of that nature. Because it's getting an opportunity to play in the NFL
Starting point is 00:15:51 and understanding that the NFL stands for not for long. You only get so much time. You know, and each year is so precious as years go by. It has to be something going wrong there. Maybe it may be, maybe it's personal, whatever it may be. I don't want to speculate. But if he needs to step away from the game to get his mind right, to get his personal issues right,
Starting point is 00:16:13 so be it. I see that fit because that does come first. Football comes second to whatever you have going on in your life. So I hope he rectified that situation, you know, expeditiously. So he can get back on the field and we can get that same Jay Alexander we once saw down in Green Bay because he's a great talent. He's a great talent and a great fit for where he is now. So I hope he comes back at some point and is able to contribute defensively when those boys make that playoff push. Well, yeah. What year? What year? What is this? for him. How many years have been eight?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Eight. Yeah. He's only 28 years of age. Hey, D.Bs play a long time, Joe. They can play a long time. If, if, um, you got to, the thing is that you start to get older, it's a, it's a mental ground because you know
Starting point is 00:17:01 stuff. I mean, you know, you know, you know, you know, out of study film. You understand down and distance. You understand a position on the field. You understand, you know, you understand tendencies. route combinations, wire receiver, how they lined up, Ocho. So you know all of that. But boy, this here got to be strong because they get so monotonous. You hear the same thing.
Starting point is 00:17:23 That's what really, you know, for me, that's what you kind of drove me away is that the monotony of it. I just could, maybe if I went to a different offense and I had to apply myself. But, but he's dealing with a knee injury. And there's, Joe, you know this. Ocho, you end up an injury. So, you know, Joe, you know this. When you're injured, there ain't nothing like, there's, nothing worse than being injured
Starting point is 00:17:45 and trying to go play and then play at a level that people are accustomed to you playing at. Right. Because if the mind ain't right, the grind can't be tight. No, sir. Because that's what the NFL, that's what pro sports is. It's a grind. Yeah. And if you hear LeBron, LeBron don't ever say
Starting point is 00:18:01 anything about his body. He always talks about his mind. He said, as long as I can keep my mind sharp, I can play 23, 24, 25 season. Yeah. Because some injuries pile up, bro. They pile up and you can't, you can't go out there and be the person who you, you know, you really want to be because of these injuries, these knickknacks that you may have.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And it hinders your game, man. It hinders your game. And it takes a love away. It takes a love away. It takes a love and passion away. And that's why a lot of guys retire earlier. They quit playing. It's not that they don't like football or basketballs because the grind has become too much.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah. Especially if you, Ocho. If you're an elite player Oh yeah If you're a special team player Or a player that you know You're the fourth corner Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:18:51 There ain't no expectation But see once you're here Like a penny hardaway We got we got penny up here I'm like man I can't do this Yeah You can't Jaya Alexander was an all pro
Starting point is 00:19:06 He's a pro bowl player Ocho Yeah And he got And I'm like Ocho something ain't right I told you I said Ocho something ain't right You can look at him and tell I'm like man I don't watch this man
Starting point is 00:19:16 I watch this man coming to the league He's one of the better corners He looked like a shell of himself Yeah And when you watch yourself If you watch yourself on tape Because sometimes you might not know it Until you see it
Starting point is 00:19:29 Because we get a lot of times Don't show people like I ain't say that I ain't say that Ryan the tape Yeah Oh my goodness That's me I said that
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah So you don't see yourself play In real time You've got to go back and watch the tape And you're looking like Then film don't lie At all The reason why film don't lie
Starting point is 00:19:56 The film don't know how much money you make it It don't know if you black If you're white You went to Notre Dame You went to Savannah State That's all it does It captures what it's being focused on Man what?
Starting point is 00:20:09 And you can't Man I did this, I did that Let me hit that rewind button. Tell me which one you? Hey, hey. What, what, Joe, Joe, what did you say you did? Okay, here we go, listen. Hey, let's watch it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Hey, it ain't nothing worse. It ain't nothing worse than that game. Boy, you get in there and coach got that clicker. And he rewinded in this same play. And you're like, oh, my God. Yes. And it's not like watching yourself on film, bro, and you look like some slough stir fry out there.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yes. Yes. Nothing like that. Hey, look, I used to be in the same. in the game thinking like, well, I cannot look like no trash on film tomorrow. I can't do it. I can't do it, Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I ain't going to miss my assignments. Yeah. We got to win this game because if we lose this game, they're going to show this film. Lord, please let us, hey, John, please make a play let us come back. Yeah. Because I don't want nobody to see.
Starting point is 00:20:59 The boy, I was, I was terrible. Hey, Sharpe, what you do on this play? No, I think I got it. Nothing. Nothing. That's what Sean did on this play. Absolutely. Totally.
Starting point is 00:21:11 nothing. That's what Sharp did. But it's tough. It's tough when you've been a really good player for a period of time and then injuries won't allow you to be that. Yeah. People don't know you're injured. Let me tell you something else.
Starting point is 00:21:29 They don't give a damn if you're injured. All they know is they see Alexander on the back of that jersey. They saw Johnson on the back of that jersey. They saw Ocho Sinko on the back of that jersey. They don't give a damn about you got an ankle or a toe or knee or hip or back. And give us a damn about that. You out there, I'm expecting you to make the same plays
Starting point is 00:21:48 that I've seen you make time and time again for the last five, 10 years. Make them now. Yes, sir. Mm, absolutely right. Your teammates have the same expectations. And they put that, your teammates put that pressure on you. Hey, you're gonna be, hey, you'll be good to go Sunday, right?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Damn, dude, it's Tuesday. Hey, hey, you know, hey. And then the coaches, you know, we're going to put the game playing. Now we rely on you because we got you in the game playing. You all ain't have me in the game playing for I got hurt. Now you got me in the game playing now, Ocho. Yeah. Now I'm in the game playing.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But it's tough. I've been in Jayaer's shoes where I've been injured and knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is 84 and they see sharp on the back of that jersey. You know, but with these expectations don't change. Oh, Cho, it's safe to say a lot of people in Dallas wanted Nico Harrison out of the Maverick General Manager, including franchise former majority. Hey, y'all, it's me, your man, M.G. Marcus Grant.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. And you think, well, I'm going to get my guess. I don't want to go through all that.
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Starting point is 00:27:58 to hear his grievances about the organization. From the excerpt from the excerpt from the athletic, Cuban, who still owned 27% of the team, was known to be frustrated with Harrison for freezing him out after the sale and not consulting him on the choice to trade Luca. League sources said he made his case to Dumont over the last several months that Harrison was steering the franchise in the wrong direction. Cuban also reportedly in a closed-door meeting with Dumont and team president Rick Welts the day before Harrison was pried, according to an NBA insider Mark Stein. Ocho? Yeah. Let me go and let Joe take this one.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Joe, what you're thinking? Man, I think it's a tough situation for Nico. Nico is a guy who was once upon a time, Uncle Ocho. He was my brand Jordan rep. Like, if I need anything, that's who I call.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So I know Nico on a real personal level. What he didn't anticipate is, obviously, Kyrie getting hurt. AD getting hurt, which I know AD got a history. What did you mean you anticipate AD getting hurt? He didn't, I mean, he wasn't thinking that. He wasn't. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So let me get this straight. Your home boy, he don't wreck 10 cars. You let him get your car, man. I ain't, I, I, I ain't think he's going to wreck it. You're right. I think he was a little optimistic coming into the season. Like, man, understanding, you know, the backlash that we're getting on Tray and Luca, like, I'm thinking, I bet he thought that AD was going to come in the
Starting point is 00:29:28 coming to camp and tip-top. shape and ready to go. That didn't happen. You got your two main guys, Karee tears ACA, I mean this is the worst thing that can happen. This is the worst thing that can happen. So now you got Luke out here averaging 40 and the Maverick's
Starting point is 00:29:46 best two players ain't even on the floor. Correct. And it's and considering like you said, Kari gets hurt, AD's hurt, is reported, It was reported that Nico was pushing for AD to come back from that calf.
Starting point is 00:30:07 They're saying no, because you could tear this Achilles a la Kevin Durant. So there's like, no, no, no, no. Mark Cuban let it be known. He's like, look, I wouldn't have traded Luca, but at least if you're going to trade him, open it up. Let's see, maybe we can get, I believe he says, I believe we could have got more than what we got. And they could have. Yeah. But I got a question, though.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I got a question, okay. Oh, Joe. Why are they acting like Nico was the only one who made this decision? He's the fall guy, Joe. You know, I know he to follow. Hey, listen, I know probably going into this, Nico probably understood his position in this.
Starting point is 00:30:48 You know what I mean? Yes. It's like everybody just pouring the finger at Nico. Man, that's a organization. That man ain't just pulled the trigger. Dumont. Yeah, he ain't just pulled no trigger and was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:59 let's just trade let's trade lucca like he he they had to meet with all this yes listen you could have had a hundred meetings huh you could have had a hundred meetings you could have had a hundred owners you could have had a hundred GMs I don't think anybody makes that call I don't think anybody makes that trade I don't care what the hell he do off the court I don't care what the hell he's drinking after you win a game I don't care I don't care be 300 pounds what do you do for me when you are on the court what are you doing for me What type of production are you putting up? Whatever that may be.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He's a generational talent. Talents of that magnitude come around every so often. Every so often. I don't think if you put any regular civilian in a position that even if you don't know basketball, I don't even know basketball like you and Joe, and I can looka-luka, and you have me in a position of power, I ain't even trading him because I know what he brings to the table. I'm not. You can see it.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Even if you don't enjoy the game of basketball. Oh, he's different. Oh, he gives me a chance. He just does. So now Nico's the fall guy. He's the fall guy because the green light has come from somewhere else. The green light has to come from somewhere else. It's a power play that we don't understand that they do.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Because I think it's bigger than what it really is. It just hasn't come out yet. I still think it's bigger than what it is. At the end of the day, Joe, I don't know if you own any companies but having here at Shaysh Media. They make suggestions.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Right. I said, okay, let's do it. If it doesn't work, that's on me. Because they suggested it. I could have said no. Same thing with CJ, same thing with Ash. They make suggestions. Okay, I go with it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Some work, some don't. That's on me. Because I got the final sake. okay Nico made the suggestion right but the owner had the final say you don't get to say see you can't say yes and means no Ted Cruz taught me that he said a lot of times people people in Hollywood will say yes but mean no you can't do that do mine if you don't want to trade him you can't say yes and then he trades him and you like no it doesn't work like that. And if you're in the leadership
Starting point is 00:33:29 position, you're the CEO, yes, you have C-O's and VPs and so forth and so. But if they make a recommendation, and it doesn't go through, they had to get sign-off from you. If you sign off on it,
Starting point is 00:33:45 you got to own it. Matter of fact, everything is not going to work. Hold on. The fact that it was even recommended, that's a fireball offense. The fact that it was even recommended, it was a fireable offense. How?
Starting point is 00:34:02 How are you going? How is you, how do you have your franchise going in the right direction by going backwards? Well, you got to look at it like this. They had Lucas sitting out some games for some time last year, Uncle Ocho. Before they wanted him. And they gave him extra time because they wanted him to lose some weight. throughout that process none of that was working
Starting point is 00:34:28 like he wasn't losing weight none of that was working I think the fact that they see him every day talk to him every day understand his conditions and what he's going through I think they just got fed up if you just want me to be 100
Starting point is 00:34:40 I think they got fed up and they didn't think they didn't think it was going to get better they didn't no they didn't think it was going to get better this is what the owner said in February after the trade if you look at the grades in this league
Starting point is 00:34:53 people you know I grew up with Jordan, Bird, Colby, Shack, they work really hard every day with a singular focus. And if you don't have that, it doesn't work. You shouldn't be a part of the Mavericks. That's what he's saying. Hey, listen, hold on, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't going to get that out and just going about your business on. You're not going to sit here and tell me that he watched Jordan
Starting point is 00:35:22 and all those names that he just named and saying they didn't work hard, you understand their ability to work hard, the want to is one of the reasons for the success. So what's the reason that Luke is able to go out there and do what he does? Because it doesn't work hard? You don't just wake up and do what he's doing
Starting point is 00:35:39 out of the blue. That comes from actual work. That's hard work. There's really, he's still doing it now that he's gone. He's not doing what he's doing now because he lost no goddamn weight. He was doing it when he was doing. heavy what are we talking about i think i think with him i think what i'm going respectfully say joe he
Starting point is 00:35:59 probably should have left shack off that list but okay go here i think i think by lucca hearing all this you know because i'm sure he's heard all the rumblers and the weight the weight loss i think that obviously gave him a little fire going into the all season which is why he lost a little weight and he looks a lot of slimmer coming into this season and i think it's obviously helped him get off to this tremendous start that he's gotten off to. Yeah, but, you know, being in L.A., 37 a game. Yeah, being, hey, the, the market in L.A. is totally different
Starting point is 00:36:32 from the market in Dallas now. Yes. They ain't putting up with all that. You know, they ain't got nothing but mega stars over that. And I think the thing is, this was a wake-up call for Luka. There we go. There we sit shockwaves around the NBA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Because if you can trade a guy that's been a five-time all-NBA selection, five times in his first six years, ain't nobody untouchable. Yeah. you heard yon and say it nobody's untouchable and but this is this is ownership because nico harrison is not making a move like this is just it's just like when you trade when you trade when you move up and you move up uh the draft oh cho let's just say for the sake of argument kansas city they were sitting at 17 yeah zoom up to 10 so that means they got they're going to swap places with some with buffalo and they're going to give buffalo their next year they're
Starting point is 00:37:22 their 2019, uh, 2018 first round pig. Okay. You got to get the ownership. You got to get Clark Hunt to sign off on that. Now you can't Clark Hunt can't then say if Mahomes didn't turn out the way he did, well, you know, no,
Starting point is 00:37:38 no, you gave them the green light to do this. If you didn't want to do it, don't do it. Everybody get mad at general managers and head coach. If I get it, I understand. But when you make moves like that,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Chicago moving up one spot and giving up, next year's first round to get Mitchell Trubisky. They had to go to the rest of the soul, Virginia McCasky and get that signed off on, Ocho. Yeah. You know, you just can't make a move like that. Ain't no general manager. Hell, ain't even Pat Riley.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He got to go to Mickey Arison. I'm sure he's going to McArensen say, look here, Mickey. Now, it's going to cause a little chunk of change now, but we can get LeBron and we can get Chris Bosch. Yeah. But it's going to cause a little chunk of change now. yeah yeah okay go go get it but you said yes and you meant no well it's too late no returns oh no you got hey as is mark jubin said at the time i wouldn't have traded him
Starting point is 00:38:43 mark cuban said if it came down to me getting the boss to keep a luka well it's been not nice on you babe but luca ain't going nowhere I mean, there's really nothing else I can say about it. I mean, the fact that it was even recommended, recommend who? If I was, if I was the owners over there in Dallas, I would, I would, I would have fired Nico, but even recommending trading him. I'm just being honest. You know what, you fired.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I can't say, I can't say I disappointed. Yeah, man, come on. I can't say, I can't say you wrong for that, Ocho. I just think it's glaring right now because of how Luke is playing and how the Mavericks have kind of... And plus what you call not playing. AD's not playing. But like I said, Joe,
Starting point is 00:39:34 A.D., if you really think about it, AD's had one healthy season. That's 2020 when they was in the bubble. And then what did they get in between that, Joe? A five-month break. Yeah. See, people forget about that, Ocho. They shut it down in February.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yeah. So March, April, May, June, they didn't start playing. He got a five-month break. Other than that, it's been, it's his back, it's his shoulder, it's his calf, it's his ankle. So he has a history.
Starting point is 00:40:06 AD is phenomenal. I'm not going to take any way from him. He's a 75th anniversary. He was voting one of the 75 greatest players of all time. We used to have the discussion. Who would you rather have? Boogie Cousers or anything. Anthony Davis, just like, that's how good boogie was.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But he's had an injury history. That is not conjecture. That's not innuendo. That's not speculation. That is fat. And you traded a guy, even though he had never been injured, but that one time for a guy that's repeatedly injured. He's a repeat offender.
Starting point is 00:40:45 He's a repeat offender when it comes to injury. Mm-hmm. So I'm confused. Now, if you trade him saying, okay, give me Yonis. Okay, give me Ant Man. Okay, you get a shade. I get it. Now, I don't think any of those, uh, uh, reported they reached out to, I think Yant,
Starting point is 00:41:04 they reached out to Milwaukee. And I think they reached out to, uh, uh, uh, uh, Minnesota. No, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Okay. Okay. See, he's not doing that, but a guy that has an injury history. And I think AD, When he's healthy, he's one of the 10 best players in the NBA. He could defend. He could, hey, he could block, he could, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:29 give you 25 and 13 on a nightly basis. Give you two and a half, three blocks a game. Alter shots. But he's had a history of injuries. And that's what Dallas was banking on. You know, they went to the finals their year, Arcan Ocho, led by Luca and Kyrie. But they had,
Starting point is 00:41:50 they had inside presence defensively were lively and Gafford, but they didn't get no points. They didn't have a big who can give them points. So when I look at it, they wouldn't have a 80 because they're like, then he'll be a great post presence, mid-boss presence, a great pick and roll guy.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Officially, in the playoffs, he can average 30 easily. You know what I mean? I think that's what they were thinking and obviously it just didn't pan out the way that they thought it would. But how are the thing, though, Joe? okay we get AD as an inside present
Starting point is 00:42:21 we got a guy that we can dump the ball down to and he's going to get his own shot I won't that with Luca not without Luca you won't go hey you won't get that you're going to tell you I go somewhere else something got to give that's why they kept
Starting point is 00:42:38 Kyrie I think they banked on Kyrie being that guy who's going to be you know it's going to be a great two man game between Kyrie and AD and unfortunately we, we never got to see it. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:42:53 No. And you probably that, you know, you hear all the rumblings now that the Mavericks are looking to trade A-D. Yeah, once those rumblins start, you already know. Yeah, for sure. You already know. Well, it's going to make it look even worse. The trade going to look even,
Starting point is 00:43:08 and it already looks bad. And everybody thought it was bad. Nobody thought this was a good trade, but Nico and Dumont. Those are the people that thought it looked, this was a good trade. Who thought this was? I haven't heard anybody that thought this was a good trade
Starting point is 00:43:21 except Nico and Dumont at the time. Clearly, he's having, you know, Byr's remorse. I don't even think they thought it was a good trade. They had to because they did it. They had to come out and say it. And I know they, in the back of their mind, like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:43:37 This ain't right. Something ain't right. I didn't put my foot of my mouth. You knew good and goddamn way of what you was letting go. You knew it wasn't going to look no dead. whether it was 200 pound or 300 pounds. You knew he would give you a 30. Like I said, look, I think AD when AD is healthy,
Starting point is 00:43:55 and he's playing, because I've watched him. Go look at AD when he was in, when he was, when he was the guy and, and, and, and, uh, uh, uh, the Pelicans. Give you a 28, 12 and 3. Nasty work. That was a long time ago though, uh, but that's what I'm saying when he was healthy, had boogie, because see, he wants to play.
Starting point is 00:44:15 See, AD don't want a bang. He didn't want to play the four. Now, he'll play the five the last five minutes of the ball game because that's what they did. Think about it, Joe. He had his best season win with the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Javelle McGid, Dwight Howard. They would come in and play the five. They did all the grunt work. They did all the leg work. Last five minutes of the game. Guess what? He slide to the five. LeBron slides to the four.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. Yeah. That's when he did, that's when he did his work. But I just, the trade didn't. make sense to me. Hold on. You give it up a guy,
Starting point is 00:44:51 you say because Luke is not in shape and he's injured, but he's five, six years younger than AD. Yeah. He's five, six years younger. And he can,
Starting point is 00:45:04 he can give you the point, he can give you more points. He can rebound, and he can assist. He can triple, he can double. He's as efficient as AD, no, because he's taking,
Starting point is 00:45:16 you know, 10, 11, 12, stepback three is a game. Yes, sir. But he, I mean, when he's cooking, you ain't going to find very many guys. Only Wilk could give you a 60 point, a 60, 20 triple double. And that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I just don't, I don't get why, you know, look, I get it. Like Ojo said, out of firing from making that suggestion. Let me get your ass out of here. I dare you come in my office talking about Tray Lucas. What the hell? As a matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:45:46 to trade you for another gym. The Lakers were willing to offer Clay Thompson four years, $80 million deal, but he took a pay cut to go play with Luca in Dallas. Per the athletic. The Lakers and Thompson discussed a four-year, $80 million deal in free agency that if the Warriors cooperated
Starting point is 00:46:04 and a sign and trade would have dwarfed the three-year, $50 million deal that he got from the Dallas Mavericks. But eventually, the Mavericks gave him 50, and he took that. But the allure of Luca's greatness was a major pool as a chance to partner with Irving in the back court when given the choice between teaming up with Lakers duo Davis and LeBron
Starting point is 00:46:25 or the Maverick stars Thompson made a calculated decision to go with the latter. Little did he know the star player would swap and leave him for the wrong end of history. Oh, Joe. Yeah. If you go back and study history. Uh-huh. Joe, Kyrie, what is his history? Injury.
Starting point is 00:46:46 injuries the one thing we know about lebron now he got uh once he started getting the 19 and 20 he started getting these little nicknack right growing you know what i'm saying but you notice very rarely when you see lebron james dive on the floor again yeah did that one time and you know hey um and you get older you ain't got the elasticity you know what i'm saying don't you know i even though i drink water ain't got the elasticity right yeah right yeah boy hey you know So you're boy, you know, hey, have you just saying, that's how you want, you know, cars, you know, cause without, you know, with our bedroom back in the day, Joe, you know what I'm saying. You don't, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But, I mean, and Clay has been impacted because he's been playing terrible this year. I mean, he's awful. He's shooting 18% from three. I think he's shoot around 30% from the two. He's just. Yeah, man, you got, you got a rookie. He's playing the point guard who... Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:47:49 He ain't no point. Just because he's not going to understand... I'm saying Cooper Flagg with him playing the one. He's not going to understand how to, you know, really get Clay the ball to get him shots because he's trying to prove that he's the number one pick. You know what I mean? But you can see they kind of moved him to the side a little bit
Starting point is 00:48:13 and they brought in... DeLoh. They should have. yeah I think it's good too I like to see Cooper fill the lanes and be able to play like that be able to play play with his back to the basket
Starting point is 00:48:25 he can drive the ball you know you put it a you could but the point guard he should never primarily have the ball in his handle Joe no that's not what he is not unless he get a rebound and he pushing up the floor outside of that
Starting point is 00:48:37 don't have to get big taking it out giving it to Cooper flag so he can bring it up to initiate the offense I don't yeah no I agree with you on that he's not a big you can play through Yokits, you can play through. You can run your offense through. Draymond, you can run your offense through.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That's not who Cooper Flag is. You've got to know what you got. I understand he's the first pick in the draft. And a lot of times you have these ideas, oh, I see him doing this, I see him doing that. But you didn't see him do that at Duke. Right. That's not what he did.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And now you get so now, you take this dinner napkin and you try to make it a tablecloth. You see what you did? It's a dinner napkin. Yeah. You try to make it a tablecloth. Let it do what it do.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah. Yeah. But Clay, like, man, y'all got me down here in Dallas, but I ain't too mad. You know, I got something. Hello. Hello. I ain't too, man.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I ain't too, man. Dollar's been okay to me. That's your meat. Yeah. Yeah. Made my basketball game, but there are more important things in life than basketball. You see you.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Hey, that's funny. Oh, Joe, before we go to the next topic, is holiday season and the team at Isojo Foundation and Nightcap want you to help our community and make sure everyone can enjoy a wonderful Thanksgiving. Please donate $40 to feed a family of 10 with a full Thanksgiving meal at all the sides. No one should go hungry.
Starting point is 00:50:14 The link is pending the chat. Joe, tell us about how you came up with this idea. Man, me and my team got together and we just wanted to, you know, do some special for the families who may not have a great Thanksgiving, you know, this upcoming Thanksgiving. So we thought this would be a great, you know, small token of our appreciation. And we got, we already got people making donations, Uncle Ocho. You know, these feasts, these dinners, because that's typically what it is.
Starting point is 00:50:43 It's $40 to feed 10 people. to feed 10 people really that's it $40 to feed 10 people and we already got people making donations so all you got to do is go to www. www.isofoundation.org and all you got to donate $40 bro you can feed 10 people and now we're gonna I'm gonna do better than that ohcho ohcho you're a match I'm gonna I got 10 I'm gonna send you 10k oh all right hell if $40 can feed 10 I don't know how many And my mouth ain't good at the top of my head right now. But I want people to have a very festive Thanksgiving. I want people, I don't want people to be hungry.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I want people to look. I understand times are hard right now. Everything that's going on with, and I can't do anything about what's going on up in D.C. Absolutely. All I can do is how many kids we feed? We can feel 250. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I appreciate that. Oh, Joe, you want to feed 500? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, hey, my math ain't, right. I have my study, huh? I feed 250, you feed 250, so 10 for me, 10 for you. I need to understand. I need numbers.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I need to hear numbers, so I get a better understanding how much we're talking about. 10K feeds 250 families. Yeah, hey, Joe, I'm going to send over to some to you, Joe. I'm sending you, I'm sending you 10, Joe. You have mine tomorrow. I appreciate that. Hey, Joe, I'm going to get you right, Joe. No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:52:16 They're talking about Ocho, donate that $5,900. Hell no, he ain't going to donate no $50,900 of mine. Hey, Joe, hey, what the link yet? You got to go to,
Starting point is 00:52:26 hey, Ocho, you got to go to www. ISOFoundation.org. Uh-huh. Hey, baby. W-W-W-Dabay. Iso. That.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Found. www. www. ISOFoundation. IsoFoundation.org. Hey, Ocho, yeah. You didn't even worry about that little hundred dollars you owe me neither, man.
Starting point is 00:52:51 You just, don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. You're going to hook these families up. Go to www. Get lumped up if you don't pay Uncle's money. Hey, let me know you find it. Send them, yeah, you found it. A, a donate, donate for Thanksgiving real quick.
Starting point is 00:53:08 A, uh, doing righteous, some with three zeros. Boy, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, boy, y'all, I don't care what they say about y'all. Boy, y'all, I hate with me. You're me? Hey, hey, Joe, I got you. Listen, I'm all about helping. I'm all about feeding families, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Because I, hey, look, Ocho, whenever y'all got something jumping off, y'all let your boy know. Hey, look, I got you, hear me? Okay, okay. Yeah, we got a black suit. You got a black suit, Joe? Yes, sir. My money don't come in by the new year.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You're going to be attending one. Not one. So I'm going to feed the families. You know what I'm saying? You know, you go to the pass over. You know, you get a nice meal. Yeah. Hey, uncle, you're going to kill me?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Man, you're going to be $50,000 for two years, man. Come on. That's crazy. Hey, I got child support. I'll be hiding a little bit. I'll be hiding a little bit. You know, I was just trying to catch up. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:54:09 You know, work with your boy, man. Work with your boy. Man, that's crazy. Man. I mean, I look, I should appreciate y'all, though. I still appreciate y'all. Them family is going to appreciate y'all, too, man. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 We want everybody to get some, you know, I show over there just one scoop of mashed potatoes, one scoop of dressing, Joe. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Unk, but it's going to feed tent. Nah, nah, nah, nah, we're going to do them right. We're going to have them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah, we're going to have them right. I appreciate that. That's up. Yeah. It worked. What? No, she, we... Yeah, it's working.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Oh, no, I'm talking, too. Hold on, I'm saying, I'm saying, huh? My link worked too. Okay, okay. What's your link, though, huh? WWW, you're going to get effed up if you don't play Uncle's money. I got you, I got you.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Hey, hey, you got to understand the importance of what it says is Thanksgiving. It's all about giving back. You know, there's a lot of people that are just starving. We don't want them to starve. See, you're not hurting for that $59.00. I'm hurting. You're in a good space.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe, I'm hurting. Lay it up. I'm hurting. Nobody knows. Nobody knows my own. Hey. Hey, one thing about it, boy,
Starting point is 00:55:31 they ain't never as bad as a scene. No, hell now. He's never that. But what we lose, we will always get back. Because in a very, I give you, I give it. six more months, but we're going to be right back left from. All I'm saying, hey, all I do is ask the Lord to give me an, hey, wake me up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:55:49 That's it. That's all I need. That's it. Man. He don't gave me the tools. He didn't gave me the weapons to go fight any war. Yes, sir. When he wake me up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's all I need. Yeah. Oh, Joe, Paul Pierce says he's taking the Morris twins over the Yokic brothers in a street fight. Street fight. Street fight. Ooh, woo. One of like six, ten, four hundred. Yeah, you know, that don't mean nothing to screen.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I don't know if he can, he got a bit of mood with all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's what they said. They say, man, he ain't got no cardio. I heard, I, I, I briefly heard him talking about it. Uh, uh, uh, I heard of briefly talking about it. No, uh, hold on, one of, one of the, um, a MMA fighter. Yeah, one of the, one of the, uh, Yoakish brothers.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Joky brothers. And the one thing you know about MMMA fighter, they normally, even they're big, they normally got some decent cardio now yeah they got a little decent cardio you know a little ground game you know they don't they don't play fair they don't play fair and especially they with anybody with any kind of combat training unc i mean it gives them an advantage over any regular civilian i think yeah for sure oh yeah and 610 400 yeah that's a big boy that's a big boy nah you know you know i had a chance of film with a day uh ilya ilia Tuporia.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Oh, Ely Tuporio, okay. Yeah, yeah, we filmed today down here in Spain. And of course, my crazy, I asked me if you want to spar. And when I asked him when you want to spar, he didn't show me the highlights of all his knockouts, man. He didn't, hey, he did not, he knocked out, you know, brother Max Holloway and. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Oh, he got crazy hands, oh, Joe. Yeah, you ain't had to tell me. You ain't had to tell me. You ain't want none of smoke. Yeah, after I've seen, after I've seen the highlights, they showed me. I'm like, nah, you know, you know, listen. We don't do the work we need to do right now. But, yeah, I changed my mind.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I don't want to spot. No, I'm thinking because he's a little small. I'm like, man, what? Man, I'm not. But he's talking about he can, nah, he's talking about he want to fight a bud. I like, bro, you, you, I understand you, MMA, but MMA boxing and pro boxing is two different things. Ask Connor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Now, he caught Floyd on the tail end. Imagine he caught Floyd. and five years earlier. Man, floored toy with that boy. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Hey, he let him get in them deep waters, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Let him get tired. Go ahead, punch yourself out. Get tired. And let me catch you on the back end. Yeah. Now, hey, the one thing I say about the Morris brothers, now, they ain't going to back down from no action. No, no, they ain't on.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Hey, once I found out, they fought the football team, I was like, okay, they're real. One football team in Kansas? At Kansas, yeah. Which mean they fought the football team? They fought the football team. The whole team has a few players. A bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Okay. The mere fact that they did that, because I ain't never heard of a basketball team because that would have never happened at state. Right. Yeah, that's right. They want them problems. As a matter of fact, normally,
Starting point is 00:59:00 don't nobody want them problems unless you come from the city. Now, you know, sometimes, you know, they guys got the squabble with people out of the city. that's a whole different out that's a whole different animal right and you know we try to contain that because me I got the car that everybody knows I can't be out there you know you know you know you boy this oh you know you know you boy back there oh cho yeah yeah yeah oh oh oh you used to be in there with your shirt off and anything in the spot no no no no no I wasn't I didn't go to no part of Joe but you know I'm saying
Starting point is 00:59:31 I'm at the car wash up at the barbershop you know I had to pull up you know late at night Yeah, you know, but they, I got a, I got a, uh, uh, 300 ZX, sky blue, and I got a, uh, 300 beans. Everybody don't know. Hey, why you spent the car, you had that in anybody. Did you have that in college? Yeah. I had a brother playing the league. You think he's going to leave?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Oh, I got eyes on. I got Levi's. I got, like, man, I please. Hey, I got polo, dark side of, but show. Well, you were clean, huh? Hell, you had all in college and a cat like me and have about two pair of jeans. Two, me, I went to college.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I went to college with two brown red pigly wiggly bags. Two brown piggly wiggily bags, everything I don't eat it. I had one thing. You know, with my brother making a little money. Yeah. You know, touchdown was $200, a hundred yard game with $200. And I have 200 yards and four touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Oh, Cho, you don't know how my money that is? A lot. That's a lot. And listen, in college at that time, boy, hey, make you feel rich. You hear me? I was. But you know how much about you go back to think about it,
Starting point is 01:00:45 1988, how much $1,000 was, $1,000 to a college kid. What? That was lying, though. You're talking about 19808. Boy, you know what I could do with $1,000 a day? Not pay me. But, uh, but, uh, but, uh, but look, hey, I'm telling you now,
Starting point is 01:01:10 the barren twin ain't back it down for no action now. But I, uh, hey, I don't know if anybody, ain't nobody doing no really no street fights no more if they don't have to. Nah, no. Hey, people, people fire you up or poking you. Yes, uh, ain't no more, ain't no more fair. It's a fight. What's the man?
Starting point is 01:01:30 You fight fair? No. It's a fight. Yeah. This ain't no, street fights ain't sanctioned. Bust over the head with a bottle. So, DeMarcus cousins said the Pelicans need to relocate.
Starting point is 01:01:44 It was five, it was times five, six years ago, especially in New Orleans. You go to, there are 36 people there. Courtside was $25. Damn. Blow it up, move on. There are no fans.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Joe? man you know what he probably got a point okay oh cho no we don't have no point jo come on that don't do that where they're going to go to because they look at they're looking at bringing a team to Seattle and they're bringing a team to Vegas they got hey look they need one in Vegas boy we that thing will be jumping in Vegas y'all already know it yeah for show because they got they got they already got football they got a hockey they got a the NBA, they got the A's relocated from Oakland
Starting point is 01:02:29 that's coming here in about two years. So, and now they have an NBA, so they'll have the big five. Yeah, I know basketball is going to be that soon. Yeah, for sure, absolutely. I don't think it'd be the Pelicans. You know, you know what they need to do. No, hell not.
Starting point is 01:02:42 No, no, no, no, no, no. Pelican, they want a new to you. They want somebody to spend about $3,4,5 billion. Yeah, yeah, it'd be the expansion team. But for the pelicans, right? And what the markets talk about with them, it's about the courts, the course size seats for $25,
Starting point is 01:02:55 when it cures all. winning cures all you know and the people of new orleans they deserve to have a sports team whether it be the saints and whether it be the pelicans but to get the people to come out you've got to be able to win you got to put the product on the court you know well you had a d he wanted out zion doesn't want to be there so it's hard it's hard to keep a star if you get a superstar and you don't want to stay yeah you're right you right because they got some decent talent over there but It just ain't enough to be. Nah, no, no, no, not.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Not with OKC. Them young boys, the oldest guy, 26, 27, they ain't going nowhere anytime soon. You got Wimby, and that squad of San Antonio. They're not going anywhere anytime soon. And now you got the Rockets with KD, you got Shungoon, you got Thompson. Man, please.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And the guys just don't, the guys don't want to be there. I mean, they come and they don't want to stay. Hey, they want to be in bigger markets. Zaya, I guarantee you, if you ask, put Zion on a lot of tech the test, he would have rather gone three and gone to New York as opposed to going number one and going to New Orleans. Right. I believe.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah. And it is what it is. I mean, just, I don't, I don't know if Ms. Benson is going to move it. I don't think she will. Mm-mm. I don't. Probably not. Saints are there and, and, and, I mean, you could.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Because they, they own the, they own the saints. She on the, also, right? Yeah. Yeah. My late husband. Yeah, they ain't, they ain't moving that. So.
Starting point is 01:04:47 All right, Joe, let me know what you think about this. The NBA announced this long-awated plans to overhaul the All-Star game, laying out how the new United States, once again, versus the world. format will go and how teams will be formed going to a three-team format featuring eight-man rosters two of which will be made up of American players and the third of international players there will no longer be any position requirements wow in the past starters have been made up of two back court players and three four four front court
Starting point is 01:05:16 players with the reserves being the same split plus two wild cards this year though the starters will be formed of the top five boat getters regardless regardless of positions. And the reserve will be the top seven, regardless of positions. That's a seven-time All-Star joke. What do you think about this? They're trying to do whatever they can to spice the All-Star weekend back up to get people excited, to get people to tune in, obviously.
Starting point is 01:05:48 But, man, if you're going to have all the four in the guys, what are we talking about, Lucas, Shea, Janice, Wimby, Yokich, that's five. Those are your top five players right there. They are all international. We're going to be in some trouble. Your top five players are all international. Tell me an American player that's better than the five that just named.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I'll wait. We're going to be in some trouble. But the problem is I don't care what you do. If the guys don't want to play hard, they're not going to play. The guys don't want to play it anymore. So you got to put in some incentives. man, you got to put some incentives in for them for them dudes
Starting point is 01:06:29 to come out and compete at a high level. Joe, these guys making $50 and $60 million and I got to incentivize it? Yeah, they sport. They spoil, uh? Absolutely. Yeah, they spoil. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah, you do. They've done a huge disservice. I mean, Michael George, Michael George probably just shaking his head. That's probably why he don't even go no more. Michael Jordan didn't go to the All-Star game. Kobe would Kobe, Kobe, rest his soul.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Ain't no way in hell. Bobby Bryant, we show up to that. Yeah. Ain't no way. The old guard, like, I said the same thing. I said the same thing about the Pro Bowl. I remember saying, I said, they're going to cut this out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Yeah. Oh, Joe, you went with the Pro Bowl. Now, we didn't tackle like it was a playoff game or a regular season game, but we did tackle. Yeah, yeah. And when that fourth quarter came, now they go, now, now we get down to the nitty because we're trying to get that little 10, Joe, little 10,000. We need that.
Starting point is 01:07:27 That's how much we played. The winner's got 10,000. The winners got 10. The losers got five. You brought five people. That's all your money. Hotel room, hotel room and to feed them. Trust me.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I already know. I already know. Man, time, time took his family. Time handled about lunch, meat, bread, time went to the grocery store. That's, uh-uh, I ain't doing this. Time, no, literally.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Time brought, had like two gallons of milk. Yo, time black, they have sandwiches, times, uh-uh, mm-mm. Yeah, that up quick, boy. Yeah. I really wasn't taking nobody. I was taking my coaches. I would take my position coach and his wife, their wife.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah. So, you know, my position coach coached me. He'd be gone somewhere else. I fly a man. So my sister didn't want to go. She had already gone, like, twice with my brother. She's like, nah, I'm done with it. I ain't want to go no more.
Starting point is 01:08:24 So most of the time, I'm going by my, I sent for it, you know, and then I take my coaches and the wives out to eat. And then basically we just, you know, be hanging out with the guys. Yeah. But that, no, you know, I show wish I could go back and play again, Ocho. Yeah. But it ain't even the wide no more, so it ain't no fun. There's no, there's no excitement to making the pro bowl now.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Because you make it and you're going right to Orlando. Y'all, hell now. Well, you made the pro bow back then, Unk. It was a privilege. It was a big deal, man. You go in Hawaii, you're going to get some pineapple. You get the mitas, the blue Hawaiines. You're going to eat them wings with that red dressing.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Hey, all I remember, all I remember, I don't know if anybody in Hawaii might see this, the French toast at the Iolani Hotel was second to none. I ain't, I ain't had nothing. The closest thing I've had that was just as good as that is the French toast I ate in Montreal at a restaurant called La Avenue. So those two places, the best. best french toast I didn't ever had man they got some french toast
Starting point is 01:09:31 at the Beverly Wilshire right there on right there on Wilshire Riddle Drive yeah and boy they got some French Cho Cho and they got a croissant right croissant
Starting point is 01:09:44 yeah and that French toast I see the Jack Rabbit be the German Sheppled up just to get a bite of it whipped it Hey Hey, Debbie Wilson, that's over there with the rich folks, ain't it? Yeah, they got a place, they got a place in, um, in New York with pancakes.
Starting point is 01:10:03 I want to go. I forget the name of it. But I see the, the fridge toast that Rock be eating, his, uh, chef be making this a fridge toast. That's like that bread this thick. Yeah. I say, damn, is that a loaf of bread or what? Yeah, I like French. Hey, y'all ate like, y'all ate like that on game days?
Starting point is 01:10:22 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Game day, you know, I'm not. But you got to realize, Joe, we played at 2 o'clock. I would eat breakfast. I would eat breakfast at 9. I wouldn't eat again until after the game, which would be about 536. Yeah, I'm saying, but it wouldn't be like not heavy.
Starting point is 01:10:36 No, no, no, no, no. No, I would eat like french toast with bananas, egg whites, and an oatmeal. Yeah, Joe, I get my same McDonald's meal before every game. Even if we were playing on the road, I would have somebody, I would have somebody bring it for me, Just hot cakes with sausage and the large orange juice. That's it.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Real simple. Yeah. But, yeah, it's not the same. Guys don't take it serious anymore. And really, the only thing that's the same is the All-Star game in baseball. Because how do you half-ass baseball? You got to throw 95. You know, you got to, you know, change up, sliders, you know.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And there's something on the line. I mean, it's still an All-Star game. Whoever wins the All-Star game, it gets on field. Baseball. That's still the same. and see, yeah, like I said, these guys, they didn't want to play anymore, even though they increased the money.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It went to 25, and I think now it's probably like 50, 80,000 for the winners at the Pro Bowl. Damn. That's because, hey, look, All-Star Weekend guys be, it's like a vacation for real, but they know they got to come out and play.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. I used to watch, you used to look forward to it. Man, I watched Jordan, imagining them how they go at it. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Kobe. They used to play. Ocho, we used to, we played, we tackle. It wasn't no 45, 45, 41 ball game. Please. It was, listen. Hey, Joe, it was competitive. It was competitive.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Let's me go out. I used to watch it, man. They used to have a lot of festivities for the Pro Bowl and all that with the quarterback duels and all that. They still do all that, okay, Ocho? Nah. No, I mean, they basically now they have like, dodge ball, they have the quarterback.
Starting point is 01:12:24 back trying to hit that moving target they have they have some stuff but no fun stuff i mean look we joked around at practice and stuff like that because you know uh i remember uh one year as a matter of fact i'm trying to think what it was a 96 so it's 96 season but it was the 97 pro ball ocho so we go out there like i think it's that Friday uh-huh so junior junior say our quartet junior like man hey let me uh i want to play you i want to play you like tight in okay hell here here you go so he go to tight end i go to linebacker cortic man tom calls a looking around take it in got well nothing gonna get done that day but come game ain't come sunday oh yeah they're fin to play now are we what yeah y'all y'all y'all brucey ted oh that game
Starting point is 01:13:18 close yeah bruce and t uh brucey and d t rest his soul yeah they get not that ball They get not that ball. Then with the day, they ain't like that no more, Ocho. I'm sorry. Fair. Time to change. Time for our final segment of the evening. It is time for Q and A.
Starting point is 01:13:48 What's up, Unk? I'm going to my first, oh, Aaron Owens. What's up, Unk? I'm going to my first NASCAR race. next year at the Coca-Cola 600. Who's your favorite driver all time and your favorite NASCAR memory? Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:01 My favorite. I like a lot. I like a lot of NASCAR guys. I grew up kind of watching Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt. But I would probably have to say my favorite is Jeff Gordon. I did an appearance with Jimmy Johnson, the 48 Lowe's car, but the 24 DuPont. But you know, I grew up way back when they had Harry Gant
Starting point is 01:14:22 and all those guys. Allison boys Kale Yarber Yarborough Sterling Marlin Arlesonville from Dawsonville probably my favorite memory
Starting point is 01:14:36 when who was it was it I think it was Bobby Allison and Caldial Yarborough wrecked and I think it was Darrell Waltrip or
Starting point is 01:14:49 Richard Petty to end up winning the 79 the 79 Dayton 500 they crashed each other i think i think i think it was uh bobby alison um because it was two brothers bobby and donnie um but i think i think bobby alison and keel yarbor end up wrecking each other and either richard petty or darrell walterp ended up winning Uh-uh, no, 1979. D. Daytona.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Okay. Man, Ash, you don't remember that? I remember that. I was there. Oh, dang, Ash, I thought you remember that. But I think it was 79. Tino, David said pain needs to apologize from everybody that was bashing him and AJ's situation seemed personal and mental.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I hope he's okay. Hey, Tino, you heard me apologize. I owe the man an apology. I owed the one to Jabon Kettlelaw too. And I gave it to him because I believe as loud as I was and saying that he was wrong, I should be just as loud and apologize. Because that man, what, he said it,
Starting point is 01:16:16 they said it, that he just didn't swing, like he said. He DM me and sent me the video also. So, that was 79, wasn't it? Yeah, was Daytona 500, 1979. Type it in 1979, Daytona 5. I think AJ's fine. I think AJ wants to contribute,
Starting point is 01:16:46 wants to be a feel, he wants the offense to know, and he knows that they give him an opportunity. he can help the offense get out of the funk that they're in. And they definitely wouldn't be having as many three-in-outs as they have. So. It was Donnie. And who ended up winning?
Starting point is 01:17:09 Was it Kale Yarbrough or Richard Petty? Not me, whether it Darrell Waltrip or Wichipty, they ended up winning. see you know i hey you know i said oh you know back back then in the south yeah that's car was huge now yeah it's still big in the south but not like it was because you go to every convenience store joe you remember they used to have hats they had handkerchiefs they had jackets all that stuff all your favorite drive you can get uh uh terry lebani you can get uh bill elli you can get any Harry Gant,
Starting point is 01:17:46 the old skull bandit, River Fox, Sterling Marley, uh, Pearson. Oh, man. Oh,
Starting point is 01:17:54 I had me some, I ain't going to lie to it. I had me some scar. I had me some handkerchief. What? I, that was the whole thing. Hey,
Starting point is 01:18:02 I wasn't the only brother that had that either. Just so you don't know. Triple X Cup Saturday. Keep your hands and your feet to yourself unless someone else owes you 5,900.
Starting point is 01:18:13 See that? You know, Joe, you're right. You right. G.K. Knox, 171. Greg, hey, unc, can y'all wish my wife, Ria, a very special happy birthday? We absolutely would love to. Ria, Greg wants to wish you a very happy birthday. And us at the Nightcap family want to wish you a happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Hopefully you had a great day, did something really, really fun, went to a great, got you a great meal. And hope he got, hope Greg bought you a nice gift. But happy birthday. birthday real donovan d uh oh joe y'all feel about panic do y'all think he is fundamentals like footwork and decision making or could be play called to be better big fan look he a young player oh joe i mean man y'all really think everybody just supposed to come out and be like patrick holmes huh no i mean they listen oh joe that's the problem i think players like my homes uh burrow Brady,
Starting point is 01:19:12 Peyton Manning, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, they've spoiled the fans. They spoil the fans, especially fans of certain teams where you see quarterbacks that go early
Starting point is 01:19:21 and you're expecting that type of play from them, you know, this early in their career. It's just not going to happen. At some point, there has to be a maturation process where they may get to that, but there's a chance that they don't.
Starting point is 01:19:33 They don't become elite. They don't become a tier one quarterback, and they just become just good. And I think Pennix, Junior is going to be okay. I think he has to be careful about what he says, you know, in the media and, choose his words wisely.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I think he's going to be all right. Yeah. Look, it's the same. In the 90s, there were not 15 great tier one quarterbacks. In the 2000, there weren't 15 tier one great quarterbacks. It's never going to be that many. There's levels to this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I know, look, I understand it. Everybody wants their quarterback to look, like a Mahomes or one of these tier one quarterbacks, one of the greats about Aaron Rogers. That ain't happening, guys. Everybody ain't going to have that. Just like everybody ain't going to have a Kobe or LeBron or
Starting point is 01:20:22 a Yokic or a bird to play for their organization. It ain't going to happen. Yeah. Brian in, Detroit Basketball, Leportier, cigars. Aaron Jones, wait a minute, I thought you wouldn't be listening to non-football
Starting point is 01:20:40 player the people who get paid to study the game why do you care about their opinions I thought I answered that Aaron I tweet my thing is I don't have a I don't care if you didn't play I said if you mean the times and study field have that but I think I know things that mean a don't for the simple fact I played and I look at the became a little different. But why do you care what I say to you? It seems like, because I ain't jumping on your timeline,
Starting point is 01:21:19 you ain't jumping on mine. I ain't never jumping on nobody timeline and say you don't know what you're talking about. That's what y'all do. So clearly y'all know what I'm talking about. Ben, oh, oh, Joe, ISO, can I get a birthday shout out? Turn 38 on November 12th. Ben, happy, oh, belated birthday.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Happy belated birthday, bro. 38? Happy birthday, every birthday, twin. I remember when I was 38. Woo. Well, you, hey, young, vibrant. Woo. Oh, Cho.
Starting point is 01:21:52 You got 38? Yeah, me, yeah. Man, from 25 feet away, I'll take a tie and just swing it. You know, the old time in the country, you know, peeing it from 25 feet away. Do all that, oh, that 38? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:10 At 38, right? Yeah. I ain't, I ain't lost magic yet. I didn't, I still a little something. You know, I still, you know, could card you up a little something every once in a while, you know what I'm saying? Not like a, you know.
Starting point is 01:22:27 I ain't Steph Curry. I ain't going to make a hundred and two in a row. But you know what I'm saying? I might hit a good, you know, Joe, good day. I might get, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I get three in a row. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Yeah. Hey, I'm just saying. Don't try to block my shot, but I can make three of the row. Raymond Felton. Is that a Raymond Felton? NFC runs through Dallas. Run through who? Ain't nobody going through Dallas.
Starting point is 01:22:53 They go to San Francisco? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. NFC runs through who? Key, hey, y'all going to be watching us in February. Do what? He's talking about the Pro Bowl. Oh. Isn't in Dallas?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Y'all got pipe down a little bit, pipe down a little bit. Pipe down. Pipe down. Joe, after all these years at this point, you should understand that. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. I'm a real fan, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Yeah, listen. And part of being a real fan is not being delusional. Joe. That's what I'm not being delusional. I'm not being delusional. I understand what's going on. Okay. I understand what's going on.
Starting point is 01:23:32 But listen, I ain't going to just leave because we're in a little turmoil. You know what I'm talking? No, you can stay there. Hello. We want you to stay there, Joe. Joe y'all been in turmoil for 35 years Joe chill out yeah Joe do you know hello Joe do you know the life of y'all to win the Super Bowl how are you when they won the Super Bowl Joe five
Starting point is 01:23:51 I'll probably about 10 when they win one last ever one 95 yeah I'm about 14 damn Joe yeah I'm 14 man you got a pack a cigarette for a dollar back then man what you can go to you can go to the to the to the store with a dollar ain't get plenty of stuff. Yeah. I remember with cigarettes and 50s in the pack. I do, too, my mom. I know, hey, but I tell you what,
Starting point is 01:24:22 the more people they didn't want to get out of, hey, you're going to the store, son, yes. Hey, Bray me a pack of cigarette, you keep, give me that buddy, man, please. Hey, all y'all do, hey, what you want? Wisdom, business and edges, Virginia's limbs. Them Marvel, new folk, box. All, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Yeah, oh, Cho, I gotta get that. Go back. And I remember everybody saying, even my mama, boy, if cigarettes ever go to a dollar pack, I'm done today. The day they go to a dollar pack, cigarette by $6, $7 a pack right now.
Starting point is 01:24:54 And people still smoking. I got my mom to quit. I bet my mom 25,000 she couldn't quit. My mom said, you're going to give me $25,000 if I can't quit smoking. My mom had been smoking since she was probably 12 or 13. because my grandma because my grand and sister
Starting point is 01:25:11 anime used to smoke and my mom was like hey give me a cigarette anime you better not tell you better not tell Mary I give you a cigarette well if you don't give me one I'm gonna tell her you did
Starting point is 01:25:20 yeah so my mom had been smoking since she's like 12 or 13 I said mom I bet you 25,000 you can't quit she's my mama look she had two
Starting point is 01:25:32 she had just bought two two cartons my mama like She said, I'm going to smoke these two And I'm done That was 25 My mama quit cold turkey Ain't no patch
Starting point is 01:25:48 Ain't no weaning My mama smoked them two carton You said baby I ain't had my I ain't had no I ain't smoked no more You got to be strong will to do that Well I'm looking for money Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:26:02 To get money for my baby Man please My mom would walk from Chicago. And I was like, I thought about it. I was like, hold on. My mind just bought you a car. That should be good enough. She said, no, that wasn't the deal, baby.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Andy Lopez, if PS2 don't play, how you feel about my homeboy. He's not going to play. They're going to reevaluate him in four weeks. So, uh, hold on. How about it's an $18 a pack? You mean a carton? How much cigarettes a pack? Shit, how much cigarettes a pack?
Starting point is 01:26:47 What? How much, Johnny? $8. That ain't bad. You said it was $7, that's about right? Yeah. I remember they was 50 cent a pack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:00 And everybody said that they ever go to a dollar, they're going to quit. Then they said they go to $1.50, they're going to quit. go to $2 to go quit. Because it seems like the price keep going up and their people are still smoking. They look, that way you got people out here hustling them cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:27:16 They ain't $10 a pack in New York City. The whole carton? No, a pack. Not the carton. A pack. A pack? Yes. But you know, they'd be selling a lot of loose cigarettes in New York. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And it says up and P. and two doesn't play. How do you feel against my homeboy? Same. We got this. We don't get this dove. Oh, Joe, you know I have a Bronco shirt on Sunday, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Just so you know. He's feeling good. Hey, he's feeling good
Starting point is 01:27:51 about them Broncos, ain't there? Yeah, yeah. You feel, hey, real. Oh, Joe, we did a number on y'all, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't got to talk about it. Hey, we did a number on them, too. They only scored three points. uh she's old she's old flex devante smith is on pace for a career year and we're talking about a j brown you know our gym is a j is under contract to a 29 you want him pay the price yeah well aj uh davante don't really do a whole lot of talking
Starting point is 01:28:33 And he expressed his displeasure as well, about two weeks ago. Oh, he has? Oh, he has? Yeah. But sure. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, tell him, Joe. How about them cowboys, Doc? You can't say foot or ball.
Starting point is 01:28:50 You've been talking about you, hey, you was psychic, and you know you getting your stuff in early, and they ain't won a game since, Doc. Hey, and you better not, Doc, you better not, but y'all better not lose on Thanksgiving. Uh-oh. Y'all know y'all got Kansas City. On Thanksgiving?
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yep. Yeah, Doc, I'm with you, baby. How about them cowboy? Okay. El Prey, Ocho, the camera you got in Spain is clean. Good look. Are you planning on running with the Bulls? Unc and Ocho Adventures.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Hey, listen. Hey, I'm glad you said that, right? Because that's certain stuff we can tap into running with the Bulls. Don't have to do it. I can do it. I think there need to do, there need to be some thing, Joe,
Starting point is 01:29:37 and Unk, that we need to do in that space of creating content outside of what we already do, because everybody do this. And, you know, we, we weren't the best at it, but it's a lane that hasn't been touched.
Starting point is 01:29:47 You hear me? And, you could be like my coach, and we could almost be stuff that's semi-dangerous. And I'm willing to take that chance. You hear me? Okay. You know, so we need to be...
Starting point is 01:29:58 I definitely coach your own. Yeah, we need to make sure we too, we find, tune and stay into that lane that nobody's touch okay because the world the world will appreciate appreciate that going hunting you know me and you swimming with orcas in the wild um who said i want to do that yeah that's that's see that's what i'm talking about it has to be things you don't want to do that you're willing to try oh flimbing with orcas though yeah in the wow yeah yeah yeah they're gonna attack humans i don't i don't got on doing that yeah you know you don't
Starting point is 01:30:31 You're right. Unk ain't got Unk doing that. We got to do things we normally wouldn't do, things that are out of our character. That's what people want to see. Okay. Man, that's like life and death. Like, you know, that's...
Starting point is 01:30:45 Hey, Joe, that's a good thing about it. So if you die, you went out the right way. Great content. No, I didn't. I got a different idea of how I want to go out. You're just me talking, though. Philly talk with PA, AJ said, not just what Philly Media said,
Starting point is 01:30:59 but Devonte, Sequin, Lane, Johnson, and said it's predictable as well. AJ isn't scheme open like Chase. PS2 said he gets open and that's what makes him great. Well, y'all need to take that up with the coordinator with the Eagles. Why y'all get mad at me and Ocho and Joe?
Starting point is 01:31:17 I ain't calling no plays. Laney Ray, hey guys, been listening to you guys for an hour so I can see the aura Borales. Oh, you could. I couldn't see it. It was amazing. What's the most of?
Starting point is 01:31:31 amazing view you've seen when traveling the most amazing view I saw Haley's comment back in 1986 you ain't see that I did I did I did I did and I don't know it all happened every every between 75 and 77 and a half years so I don't know if I'm gonna be around to see it but I saw it you know you should be a very fortunate if you see two of them because your damn show won't see three you should be very very fortunate if you see two I don't know that might go to maybe catch us catch that old second one hey I don't know if this amazing but I was on the plane during 9-11 who were you did they order you
Starting point is 01:32:19 down because they took this the first time in history they all all plays uh George W President Bush ordered all plans out of all planes out of the sky I was headed to Boston. I flew from Little Rock, Arkansas to Atlanta, Georgia to connect. When I got to Atlanta, we got on the flight. We was taxing out to get ready to take off and he pulled back in. He was like, we got a, we got an emergency. We got to pull back in. It's an emergency. And they told all of the evacuated off the plane. When we got off the plane, the first plane had I already done hit. Yeah. So we're looking at it on TV and it didn't look real to me at first. You know what I mean, but I was headed to Boston.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Yeah, that was my rookie year. Damn. Wow. I remember it like yesterday. Ooh. I got stuck in the eighth for a week. Not a bad place to be stuck. No, considering where I went. It wasn't.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Jamar the singer, your aunt, catchphrase, show up every day in my life. My wife talking about not tonight. I look there and said, The hell you say. Hey, stall out, Jamal, man. She probably had a hard day at work. She probably came home and uncooked a meal.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Hey, give him a break, man. Say, baby, I'll catch you tomorrow. Hell you say. Ricky, what up, gang, flying out to the DR in the morning. What's y'all travel plans in 2026 with Unc Free? Out like a scouted a new route. Hey. What's our plans on, Joe?
Starting point is 01:34:01 Where are we going? I don't know. It's on you. It's on you. You tell me you want to go. You know, me and the midst we're going to travel. You know, you want to bring your little partner with you. You know, we can do, you know, let a little double date.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Joe, you want to come along to, you know. Yeah, I can't go nowhere just me and you. I got to have Joe because somebody got to be the voice of reason. There's got to be the voice of reason. There's no reason with you. I'm a voice of reason, huh? No, you're not no voice or nothing. You divorced some bull-jad.
Starting point is 01:34:29 I'm the best person to travel with. It don't matter where we go. We come to Spain, I can speak Spanish. We go to France, I can speak French, you know? I mean, I'm the person you- No, French fries and French toast is not speaking French. Crosote? No, great-pupon, nothing.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I speak French. I speak Spanish. Like, I'm the person, I speak Russian. What you go? Tell me something. In what? Miama. who miyama miyama what okay i'm asking you uh it's ocho but you're not saying it right
Starting point is 01:35:09 miyama miyama bcente my name is vincenti no your name is not vincent your name is your name is shannon no but my spanish name when i took spanish right because everybody else had already taken everybody I had to take, I had to get a name. Everybody had taken Gary with Greg and Stephen. So I say, you know what? Mi yamma, Bicente. Okay. Is that what you, when you travel abroad, do you tell women, I mean, people,
Starting point is 01:35:39 your name is Vincent? No. Okay. Okay. I don't really travel. I hadn't been abroad. Actually, I've been to, where did I go? I went to Italy.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Hey, yeah, hey that, hey, oh. You know, I was in Rome, I was in Rome, went to Florence. On that train countryside, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know, I was getting ready to fly to Italy tomorrow. I was going to go to the wrong. I want to, I want to show my baby. I want to show her the Coliseum. I was like, you know what, let me, let me lock in,
Starting point is 01:36:09 let me stay focused. You should take it in LA downtown. You can see Coliseum? Oh, you. It's cheap. Hey, but listen, I know we got, we got nightcap tomorrow, right? Yes. See, see how focused I am?
Starting point is 01:36:24 see how dedicated I am. I appreciate that. I'm not, we're not going to go to Rome. We're going to wait until the season is over. Football season is over. And we got a little more time to enjoy the city instead of going there for a few hours and fly back to the state. So I'm flying back to Miami.
Starting point is 01:36:40 And my flight even, what, four hours? Five hours. See that? Well, damn, were you in a little bit of time? Yeah, I just, I flew in, um, this morning. I flew in last night. I did what I need to do, and I'm back in Miami tomorrow. well you know we are we doing something yeah yeah hey joe hey saucy
Starting point is 01:37:01 so let's go ahead what you going to say joe i would tell i would tell it joe in and out how much how much be talking oh yeah i'm gonna say yeah you know y'all got to have somebody with y'all who got some sense yeah yeah yeah yeah because oh joe gonna try to talk me into something and so joe be the voice of reason so joe could break the tie i got no i would listen you got understand. Whatever I try to talk you into, it'd be nothing like Nico Harrison in that bullshit. All right. All right. Man, you have us try to scale up Mount Subius. Now, see, now that's great content. Uh, sausage say, so we don't need LeBron, uh, Laker fans, awful tonight. Oh, yeah, what, so y'all want to trade the Brown, huh? Mm-hmm. Well, Laker, what's
Starting point is 01:37:50 What a LeBron hate of that? Y'all lost? They don't want any more. Okay, C, beat the brakes off of him. By what? By like 30. By like 30? 30 what?
Starting point is 01:38:01 Pounce. God. It was a whole lot to a few. Yeah. David Montiano. Eagles O.C., Kevin Petula, is going to destroy us. I agree with AJ.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Hey. Can you imagine everybody can't have Ben Johnson calling plays. Everybody can't. have a Sean McVey. Kyle Shaddenhan or McVey. Yeah, you can. Andy Reed.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Yeah, sure. The creativity is different. C.B. started. Shakur said CBB started the early prediction. If any, Yukon, we're taking our title back. We building football program up too. Yeah, y'all good in basketball now.
Starting point is 01:38:46 But I don't know if Yukon is going to be able to beat those blue bloods, bro. Talking about football? Yeah. To beat the Georgia and the Ohio states and the Bamas and I don't see that. Hey, you got to bring a whole lot of boys in there for that. Uh, Fletch, uh, I catched up on the shoulder the other night when you said you wish coach would stop feeding y'all.
Starting point is 01:39:13 You almost had me throw up all my cater food away because we're doing so bad. Hey, that was funny. Hey, dad. Hey, that was funny, boy. That was funny. Hey, I'm miserable. When I'm losing, I'm miserable. I want everybody else to be miserable, too.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Oh, did you see the new formated? The women's 100 meters at the 2020 Olympics, all three rounds the same day. I did see that. It's opening day. Man, that's asking an awful lot of these women. I mean, three rounds in one day. Normally they have maybe two rounds,
Starting point is 01:39:48 and then they have the finals the next day. Or they won one round and two rounds the next day. But that's an awful lot. I hope they space it out and give them enough time to recover. So they should have a space out, you know, morning, then noon, and then at night. Yeah. I mean, the women taking over. They might end up having Seed race be, whatever, whatever Seed running,
Starting point is 01:40:12 that's going to be the signature race. Bemore Cowell, in 2018 draft, Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnel, Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen, the best quarterback in the draft class in NFL history. You can make that case. 83 might have something to say about that now. You know Elway and Marino
Starting point is 01:40:29 was in the same draft with Jim Kelly. Huh. Jim Kelly went to four soup bowl. They didn't win it. John went to five, one, two. Marino went to one. So when it's all said and done,
Starting point is 01:40:47 you might have a compelling argument, young man because Lamar hasn't been to the Super Bowl. Well, y'all got to get to some Super Bowls now. Jay underscore Fields 227 since Scataboo is hurt, would there ever be another Mike Ars-type player?
Starting point is 01:41:04 You know, it would be hard too because they don't even team the way the NFL is now the way offenses are. Most teams don't even use the fullback to that point. Nah, they block it. He was the perfect fit for for the Giants.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I think the 49 is also used the fullback a little bit. Use check, Kyle, use check. Yeah, yeah. There's one more team. Oh, the Ravens, Ricard. The Ravens, another team. So not very many use a fullback in that panel.
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