Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Chief Royal Ramey, Butler accounting error, Neymar MLS

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by Chief Royal Ramey, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program (FFRP). Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the Miami Heat having an “accounting error” that left Jimmy Butler without pay for 10 days, Neymar is in talks with three different MLS teams over possible move and much more!03:19 - Chief Royal Ramey30:35 - Jimmy Butler33:17 - Neymar to MLS38:19 - Mother went viral for inheritance43:24 - French woman scammed by fake Brad Pitt55:00 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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California state average of 42% and 82% nationally. Chief, thanks for joining us today, man. How you doing? Oh, man, I'm doing well. Shannon, how you doing, sir?

I'm doing great, bro. I'm doing great. Thanks for joining us. Nah, thank you for having me. Chief, what's up baby what's up oh sure baby what's the deal hey dude baby shoot i'm and i'm chilling man listen have i had your hands i cut mine off man yes sir chief i want to ask you this what led you on this journey to to to find to discover to fund this program in which you're a part of now?

Yeah. So, um, so when I was, uh, 20 years old, I made a, I made a mistake, right? I end up, um, you know, making a poor choice in life and I end up, um, you know, committing a crime. He got sentenced to six years in prison. Um, I ended up, um, you know, serving four years, eight months. And in that time, I had the opportunity to, you know, go to fire camp. And I know like a lot of folks don't really know about that program. And it's pretty much been around since the 1940s. Okay. So, you know, California utilizing incarcerated people to fight wildfires and, you know, giving them an opportunity to, you know, obviously serve

the community and going out and doing their thing, but they get paid, you know, pretty much a dollar an hour to do this work. So I remember around the time that I actually went to fire camp, it was, I actually got sent by sentence. And then I went to, I was in reception for a while. And then they sent me out of state from went to, I was in reception for a while and then they sent me to out of state from Arizona to Mississippi because the time that I got sentenced, um, it was overcrowded in California. So I had to, um, you know, I went out and, um, you know, went to Mississippi and you have a annual review every year. Um, and when I, when I had the ability to go, cause I had my, my points dropped and,

and it was like, Hey, you want to go to fire camp? And I was like, in my mind, I was like, what's fire camp? I heard about it when I actually got sentenced, but I didn't really know. So from there, you know, just had the opportunity, you know, talked to a couple of folks. I'm like, hey, man, you know, what's this fire camp stuff? And they're like, hey, man, this is dope. You know, better food. You know, you have the ability to go out and, you know, have a part, like I said, with your family. You know, you're in a community.

You're not locked up. You're not in a cell. So I was like, man, this is a good opportunity. And I can go back to California and see my family. Haven't seen them in like 20 plus months. So I was like, you know what? Let me just go make it happen. But Shannon, when I tell you I had no idea what I was getting myself into.

It was crazy, man, for real. So, uh, and then it led, you know, and,

and I grew to love it. I had a passion for it when I got there. And, um, I was like, man, I could really do this. This is something that I,

um, you know, that I could, you know, make happen. I had adversity when I was younger, when I was a kid. And,

um, I wasn't ever scared of fighting fire. I'm, you know, I had a couple of, you know, make happen. I had adversity when I was younger, when I was a kid, and I wasn't ever scared of fighting fire. You know, I had a couple of, you know, some experiences in my life where I had some challenges. I almost died a couple of times. So I was like, you know what, this is something that, you know, I'm not scared of, and I just loved it, and it was dope. If you don't mind me asking, I'm going to ask one more question,

don't you, or I'll let you take it. If you don't mind me asking, I'm going to ask one more question. I'll let you take it. Right. If you don't mind me asking, what is some of the qualifications in which an inmate qualifies for this program? So the qualifications, you know, you can't have arson, you can't have a sex crime. You can't at the time that when I was there, you know, you couldn't have any murder or something like any violent crime, right? In a sense. And you pretty much go through what is called a PFT. You do some physical training. Once you pass that, they give you a basic like S190 class. And this is all I'm talking about is when I was there and you pretty much can be able to go out and they send you to a fire camp and you really under the qualifications of the captain. Okay. So it's really quick.

You know, it's like a couple of weeks, you know, process to get you, you know, going and then you're out there, you're fighting fires. Listen, one of the key words you just said, chief, is passion. You had a passion for something and obviously most of the times people have a hard time finding something that they something that they love to do and actually having a passion for where it doesn't become a job it becomes something that you actually love now how do you help the participants gain the skills and the confidence needed for such as a demanding job in wildland firefighting because that's that's that's for one scary two it's life or death depending on the situation right so it's how do you do that you know helping them gain the skills and now not only gain the skills but you need confidence to be able to do something like that

and that's what the forestry and fire recruitment program is pretty much all about like you know just like us being from from the urban community right and having that adversity growing up you know we built for it too right we we've been here we've been through some things right so it's really easy to chop it up with folks and be like listen like you know you you already been through that road in your life right you already had you know you probably the black sheep of your family you know you probably disappointed your family in some moment. And like, this is an opportunity for you to be able to utilize the knowledge, skills, and abilities that you have, right? In order for you to be able to get a family winning career. And it's really just being real with them. Just like

we having a conversation right now. It's just like, you know, hey, do you want the bag? Everybody want the bag. Everybody want the bag. Everybody want the jewels. Everybody want to be able to have something to look forward to, to have pride in, have purpose, right? And it's really to really sell it and say, look, this is a real true opportunity. So, you know, listen to your captains, listen to or take this time, you know, to yourself and really understand the process of like the mental and emotional and the physical attributes of like really focusing and locking in. Just like when you was on Game Day, Ocho, you know, talking people up. Just like how you, Shannon, was over there. You had me pumped up earlier with some highlights in it.

And it's like that's where you have to understand the opportunity. Right. Right. Right. And I think by me talking and just telling my story and inspiring folks and loving on folks and showing them like, look, I've been where you at. And like we already been through the worst. So why not take this opportunity to get to get the opportunity to be able to be a firefighter, make the bag, you know, take care of your family and win. Let me ask you this. There's a lot that's been said about the incarcerated firefighters today that's currently fighting the fires in Los Angeles. Can you explain to us fact of fiction of what's circulating online?

How much do, I don't know if you know this off the top of your head. How much are they getting paid? And. Do if only forest fires, do you got good? Do you guys go fight burning building fires or is just the large scale massive fires? Yes. So when it comes to folks that's in California fire camps, they actually focus on wildland firefighting okay that's what you pretty much trained in also though too you know you can um you know respond to a a flood or any like national disaster that needs support when it comes to like just having bodies there

okay um and yeah so that's pretty much that question for you, Shannon. How much you got? What's the pay? Because it's been paid like, okay, you get $10 an hour, and then blah, blah, you get another dollar an hour, so it's $11 an hour. So if you don't mind me asking, what's the pay scale? Yeah, it's dollars. They're making about $20-some dollars a day, you know um what i was you know all the research that i have done and known because they've been trying to like compensate folks for being in fire camp i know uh one of my uh cdcr partners uh fred money captain money he he he escorted me if i didn't say that they wasn't

trying to make efforts and trying to you know give folks some more money but it is pretty much a dollar an hour when they're out there in the fire but they're trying to figure it out but um yeah it's it's hard work is you know you're making what you know 30 12 dollars a day for the day you know what i'm saying because they do 24 hour shifts and then they 24 hours down and then 24 hours on so um yeah it's it's definitely it's pretty much the same thing as uh you know you going to college and you getting pimped. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, like, you know, the NIL. Right. Like now it's starting to come about. Right. Because of like, you know, folks seeing that how much money that, you know, the NCAA is making. Right. Like it's a similar kind of situation. So you can understand what I'm saying.

But my biggest thing, though, is like I want to bring you to the NFL. Right. I'm trying to give you the opportunity to go out and get this bag, and with all the, you know, opportunities you had in college, right, and when you was in fire cap, let's take that to the league, man. We need, hey, the league is short right now. We

when this league was in 1960s, we need folks to be able to come out here and make it happen. But you check this out. Go ahead, Ocho, go ahead. I was going to say, listen, early in life, obviously, you've made some mistakes. Listen, we've all made them. You know, you've had obstacles you had to overcome and you were able to do that. And many of us don't get a second chance. You were able to get a second chance. And I'm just curious, what's been the biggest hurdle you face in making the forestry and fire recruitment program a success and actually getting people to want to actually do it despite what the pain might be?

So it's a lot of things. So I think the biggest one of the biggest hurdles is like, can you actually do it? Right. Because a lot of folks knew like it was some rumors around like, yeah, you can, you can't. But if you really think about it um public service in prison kind of don't mix right like if you think about you know a prisoner it doesn't mix you think about a firefighter you think about a prisoner it don't mix right so i was like you know me and my co-founder brandon smith you know we was oh you know we was laying in the bunk one day or just like, you know, just chopping it up. And it was like, man, like, I really enjoy this, man.

I really want to do this. And he was like, man, you know what? We should we should figure it out. Like, but I'm like, you know what? Once we actually know the process of becoming coming from fire camp to, you know, being a professional firefighter, you know, I want to be the modern day Harriet Tubman. You feel me? I want to bring our folks, you know, to get right so it's like okay and then we obviously you know it was a lot of it's a lot of stuff it's stigma you know obviously is um you know understanding

the process of how to get there right after the application you know build a resume and then and at the time that i was around it was like band, band of box wasn't there. So, like, you know, you have to explain your crime and what you did. So I was like, you know, when I first started, I worked with the U.S. Forest Service. And I put them on my application. I'm like, look, this is the crime that I committed. Right. But then this is what I'm doing to be able to, you know, try to atone for my mistake. Right. So, hey, look, I went to this wildland Academy, uh, got my certifications, um, in college. Right. Um, and I'm, you know,

trying to be able to like really push it to, to the next level and be able to get a position with y'all. Like I'm, I'm, I'm showing you not only just the things that have happened in the past, but also the things that I'm working on to be able to be a great citizen and being able to be an asset to the company, you know, to the organization, which is the Forest Service. So from there, you know, I got, you know, then I got an interview and man, it's just like, they was asking me like, you know, so what makes you the, you know, the best person for this job? And I was like, look, I got experience, right, when I was in fire camp. And, you know, I did 20 months, you know, fighting fires, doing fire prevention work. I was the first saw. I was out there, you know, doing my thing.

And then not only that, when I came home, I got my credentials as far as getting my certifications I need. And then now I'm actually in college pursuing my A.S. degree in fire technology. So I'm like, in experience, you can't beat, right? So I am the best, you know, I have the good position to be able to be the best person for the job. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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A lot of time, employment do not want to offer them that because of their prior history. How are, what are you doing? And how can we as a society realize that some of these men, women have something to offer society in a positive? Because there is that stigma that they don't want to give you a job. And so that's why I believe the recidivism rate is so high. Well, if I can't get a job, you're not going to give me gainful employment. I got to go touch somebody to get it because I got to survive. I'm just going to be honest with you. I got to go touch somebody to get it because I got to survive. I'm just going to be honest with you. I got to survive, G.

That's my guy, man. And that's the real thing, man. And that's where I want to tell you all today is I can speak from experience. I was a little firecracker when I was younger. So I think even the respect that I gained from these men and women, um, that's out there about on these fires and stuff. And that's in these fire camps. I can really attest to what they going through. And, and it's really, um, an important factor of me being able to like, talk to like, so for example, let me tell you some, some real stuff. So Cal fire, right?

That's like the state's fire department. They're actually one of our biggest funders. And they actually support what we're doing. And they put their money where their mouth is, right? Governor Gavin Newsom, he passed a bill that was effective January 1st, 2021. It's called AB 2147, which allows folks that's been incarcerated in fire camps get their record sponge once they come home. So big shout out to the governor, right? Big shout out to a Cal fire. Um, and, but one thing that we do need to like, I really want to talk to y'all about too, is like

CDCR, you know, I've been wanting to chop it up with them for a while. And these are the folks that, you know, how's these, how's the folks that's being incarcerated, right? And I'm really looking for a partnership for us to really, you know, help out those thousand, you know, folks that's out there battling these fires right now and should be able to, you know, put their money where their mouth is.

Like, we really need people. Like, this has been going on for a long time. We started our organization in 2018 um it's really been a struggle i was actually just talking to my wife man and uh like it's been a journey for me ocho and shannon and and my team too um and like to be honest with you my co-founder brandon smith his his grandparents house burned down just in alphabeta sorry to hear that my my director of finance, her house burned down in the Palisades, right? It's been an effective, like, not only just what we've been doing

and been trying to, like, we've been, you know, we've been struggling. We're a nonprofit organization. You know, we're trying to do something that's right, but, like, it's been a lot of, like, you know, it's been a lot of stigma. It's a lot of, like, you know, it's been a lot of stigmas, a lot of like, you know, pressure with this. And now that this hadn't happened,

like, you know, we've been around, we want, we want to be able to provide folks opportunity and stuff. So, yeah, let me,

let me stop there. Let me stop there. Cause I go into it. What's the best way people can support your organization, your efforts to do what you can take, what you, to help you continue to do what you're doing. Honestly, if they can donate, I don't care if it's five, 10, $50, right, to the forestryfirerp.org, or even just awareness. Like I'm a TED fellow, 2024 TED fellow, shout out to

all the TED folks. I have a TED talk, and just spurring awareness of the organization and what we're doing. And I think that's really what needs to happen spurring awareness of the organization what we're doing and i think that's really what needs to happen like folks need to know what we actually do and i think you know to all the um you know athletes to all the folks that um been in that lived in the urban community i feel like we would definitely would love your support and knowing that we actually you know getting folks that say that there are, you know, zeros when they go to prison and the homies, right? Like all the folks that we know that grew up, right?

I'm actually providing them an opportunity to get, you know, a six-figure job, right? And if you think about that in LA, like that's huge. That's life-changing money for folks, right? And even being able to get their record response response like have a whole zero to hero kind of like um mentality and uh and shout out to i'm gonna be honest with you shout out to like arc um shout out to j cod uh shout out to like all these folks that's really trying to to make things happen um on on a higher level even kim kardashian she's been saying some things about us and trying to uplift that voice right but we i need support from you know folks that's in the la community that have been in urban

community that understand what we're going through and um think about uncle jojo you know uncle nook nook and all those folks that they they're the ones they're the ones who be going to fire camp right and they can be able to get that and when they see that you know all it takes is a little bit of effort it takes a mindset and and that's another thing too shannon and ultra i want to say like it's it's you know it's mind control over debo right when you can be able to inspire and show like look you already been doing it bro like you might as well just go ahead and you know dive all the way it's an honest Make it just an honest hustle. It's an honest hustle, right? Exactly.

And you think about it. It ain't too many opportunities that you can come home from prison and make six figures. Right. Think about it. And what we're doing, we're like, think of,

we only training 100 people for, you know, year round. And then one thing that I wanted to tell y'all, talk to y'all about too, is that I've been trying to like, uplift the Buffalo Anchor. So I don't know if you educated on this like about the buffalo soldiers and okay so so they you know obviously the african-american men you know wanted to serve in the armed forces and they actually went out to um it was a fire in 1910 and they they saved a

town in Avery um Idaho and they did a backburn and that's something that we kind of like do like you know even today and that kind of has been kind of like a little tradition right um and being able to do prescribed kind of burns and like trying to save stuff um and i actually uh launched a crew in 2022 it's called the buffalo buffalo hand crew and what i want to do is um you know build a crew where i can be able to do fire prevention and fire suppression work throughout the state. Because that's one of the things, too. You got those houses that burn and policies. And I know, like, it is like a wind event that, like, is just, you know, a natural disaster.

And you can't really like stop that. But it is some things that we can do as far as going out here, doing some fire prevention work, cutting brush. Right. Because the more brush that's cut, the less embers and all that stuff is out there. So if a fire is a burn, is the same thing as a break? Because I remember when I was growing up, they would used to take the break. They would burn certain areas so that if there was a fire, it could only go to the, so once it's burned, there is nothing it could jump over

and keep going on. So I'm very familiar. I just wanted to know if the burn is the same thing as the break. Yeah, pretty much. And that's where I think if we do a lot of more, you know, fire prevention work,

it's been efforts, right? It is a process. It's a complicated situation. I'm going to be honest. But I want, as an organization, a nonprofit organization, to be able to do this work year round and do it more frequently. And I can hire folks internally, like they can go through my program. And Osho, I got to ask, I got to ask you a question, Osho, because I did, I did, I did

tell you how we do it, right? So we recruit, we train, and then we help them get a job with the, you know, give them a resume, go through the application process because we know. And then that's when we mentor them throughout their career and since. And, you know, we help them with the social services. We help them with the expungement. And I got to give it a lot of shout out, man, to a lot of my people that, you know, been with me since the beginning, that believed in me. And, you know, we have a location in San Bernardino, L.A. County. We have a location in Oakland.

And we're trying to just continue to do our work. And I think what we're doing is transcending and it's really transforming folks' lives. And I just appreciate the platform and the opportunity for you to have me on here. And, you know, I just wanted to do the good work. I didn't do this for the riches and fame and glory. I did it because I feel like I knew that this was something that I needed to do and is going to be able to help people's kids' kids, right? It's a generational thing.

Think about it. When you have a person that can make that amount of money to be able to put their kids in private school or put them in a better school system and then they become something right and then like generational or just to be able to provide right that part and it's in the money look it's it's a ocho hey i i hear you about saving that bread baby like hey if you don't got no bread you can't save nothing right we we got to it hey i i mean i might need to like you need to start like a little um financial class or something like i might need to you might have to give me a little sidebar like how to do it man so i got you i got you i got you uh you know what what we did tonight

uh chief raw Ramey all the money that we're going to collect from the Super Chat we're going to donate that to the organization but I believe so positive and so strong in what you're doing I'm going to personally donate $25,000 out of my own pocket because I really appreciate what you're doing

I love the fact that you're trying to help the community try to give back and try to keep guys from going back into the into into the system and to have gainful employment so they can provide not only for themselves, but for their families. So I really appreciate it. I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule and coming on here and sharing a little insight of what this program is all about, because we see we've heard so much about these young men that are out here fighting these forest fires for really risking their lives for pennies on the dollar. And so I appreciate that, and I'm sure everybody here that's watching this appreciate your service

and what you're doing. I know Ocho and I, we greatly appreciate it. So all the money that we've gathered from the Super Chat tonight, we're going to donate that to your fund, but you're going to get a personal donation from Shannon Sharp in the tune of $25,000. Cause I believe in you. I believe in what you're doing.

And I want to say thank you for what you're doing. Thank you, man. Salute. For real. Salute. Not, not, not very many times, you know, do we get a second chance at anything? Not very many times. And what you're doing, man, is commendable.

And you know, from the bottom of my heart, man, I really do salute you. Yeah. I appreciate you, Shannon, man, for that. The first thing that came to my mind, it was like,

uh, that, that Jerry Maguire, man, don't make me cry. You're going to make me cry, baby. Nah,

bro. Just keep, just keep, just keep doing what you're doing. Keep God first. Keep doing what you're doing, bro. And,

uh, I'm proud of you. I'm happy for you. And this is a great program. And hopefully there are a lot of young men that want to take advantage of this situation to do something positive. Yes, they may mistake,

but let's not make that be the end. Let that be the start of a new beginning. So congratulations on your program. Like I said, thank you for joining us tonight. And we'll check back in with you down the road. All right, thank you. I appreciate both of y'all, Shannon and Ocho. Have a good one. You too, bro. Oh, man. That's

Chief Roar Ramsey. I call him Ramey. No, is it Ramsey or Ramey? Ramey? Okay, Ramey. He's the co-founding chief executive officer of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program. And he's doing a lot of good things because what it does is give inmates an opportunity to learn a craft. Because it's hard.

I mean, it's hard for them to get a job because somebody, they put on that thing and you have been convicted of a crime. You say, yeah, blah, blah, blah. They're like, oh, no, we can't hire you. So now I ain't got no game for employment. I'm out. But what can I do to survive? How do I get a place to stay? And so a lot of, and sometimes family don't want you around because, you know, you've done something.

And so it's hard. And so, you know, like I said, I mean, when you don't have employment and you need to survive, a dog won't starve himself. Humans are no different. They're not going to starve themselves. So if they can't get gainful employment, they're going to find a way to survive. And so what Chief Roy Ramey is doing is giving guys an opportunity.

I greatly appreciate that. And I don't mind, like I said, I've been very fortunate. I've been blessed. God has blessed me beyond blessed. And so if someone's doing something positive about you, I always want to be able to lend a hand. Yes, sir.

So thank you, Chief, for coming on and joining us. Ocho, an accounting error didn't get Jimmy Butler paid. Report, Miami had an accounting error that left Jimmy Butler without pay for 10 days. Jimmy reportedly took private flights separate from the team in order to visit his sick father. So in other words, he wasn't just taking it because he didn't order to visit his sick father. So in other words, he wasn't just taking it because he didn't want to file on the plane. It comes Pat Riley might've been on the plane. He might've had beef.

He was like, look, I'm going to meet you where you're going, but I really need to see my dad. My dad is not going to be here much longer. And I want to spend as much time as I possibly can to be with him. I'm going to join you wherever we're going. Right.

But just give me that opportunity to be with my father. So, I mean, that should have been addressed and that should have been told to them ahead of time, huh? Or the reports wouldn't have come out that he was flying solo. They think he's flying because he don't want to be with the team. But obviously he had a reason why he wasn't with the team. And now that it comes out, he lets it be known that should have been already talked about internally.

So there was no issue. But because there was some strife and, you know, there was some separation between Pat Riley and the powers that be that he can pass that message on, you know, I guess I'm assuming just Jimmy did it his way. And now once the issues came out about him flying solo, now he lets people know that, you know, Pops is sick. And that might have been something that he didn't want to, once the, once the issues came out about him flying solo, now he lets people know that, you know, pops is sick. And that might've been something that he didn't want to, you know, he didn't even want to get out.

Correct. I think the thing is, uh, I mean, I don't know how you, like I said, I'm figuring if you taking private flights and something like that, his dad is probably really, really ill. And, uh, you try to spend as much time as, as, as, as, uh time with your father or the loved one as you possibly can. And, you know, I don't really care as long as he's going to be there for the game. And even if he doesn't, because there's some things that are more important than basketball. I know people don't, sports, let me take that back, not just basketball. There are certain things that are more important.

Tending to a loved one, I would rank that first. I'm always going to make sure family is okay now once they're okay i can tend i can my mind can be free and i can go get done what i need to get done right um but i don't really have a problem with jimmy dead taking a private flight because he could have just like hey the hell with it i'm gonna be here with my dad as long as my dad need me to F them sports because y'all going to play 50, 60 more of these. I ain't going to get another

dad. Once he gone, he gone. And so I totally get what Jimmy did taking the private jet. This is why he took the private jet because they said the private jet because he wanted to stay back with his father and spend as much time as he could. But he always ended up making the game.

So kudos to you, Jimmy. Yeah. Hold on. Oh, Joe, Neymar. Go ahead. What you going to say? Hold on. Let me use the bathroom real quick. Hey, Neymar, that's my dog, man. Yeah.

Hey, listen, make sure, hey, Unc, whatever you get ready to say, I said it first. So when it actually happens, just know I tweeted it two weeks ago because a little birdie told me. Hold on, hold on. Neymar is in talks with three MLS teams over a possible move. He's with one of those teams in Saudi Arabia. Any one of those teams like Cristiano Ronaldo?

I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's making big money over there uh but neymar has been talking with three mls teams over a possible move ocho tell the people at home what the move would mean for a professional soccer in the u.s now we know uh messy is already the league i I think Suarez joined him also, right? Yeah, Suarez. Yep, Suarez is there. Jordi Alba is there as well.

And I think, obviously, there was a time where there was a time, I mean, phenomenal trio at Barcelona when it was obviously Jordi Alba was there. But the trio, Messi, Suarez, and Neymar, it was a beautiful thing. It was a beautiful thing. Now, in comparison to something you would understand is when Chris Boss, Dwayne Wade, and LeBron were playing together. Now, I'm not saying they're the same thing. I'm just giving you better context on how that trio was.

When they played together, we talk about art. There's a reason they call soccer the beautiful game. And that's exactly what they displayed when they played together. So them reuniting, even though they're past their primes, it still would be a joy.

It would be a joy to watch them. If Neymar is to come to the States, if it was to happen, it would be Miami. Even if he's in talks to other teams, you know, in MLS. If it's to happen, it would be Miami. Even if he's in talks to other teams in MLS, if it's not LA, if it's not the Galaxy or it's not LAFC, I don't see him going anywhere else. I don't see him going anywhere else.

It's either LAFC, the Galaxy, or down here in Miami. He's not playing for any of the other teams. There's no disrespect to them. They just wouldn't have the type of money he's looking for, even though they're paying him. I don't know what Ash could tell you. Well, you know what Neymar made to go to Saudi Arabia? He paid him a lot.

I think Ronaldo got like 500 million for three years. No, two. He got two years? Okay. Yeah. Crazy. man no two we got two years okay yeah crazy he got uh he makes 107 million a year how much ronaldo makes namar makes uh ronaldo makes 180 a year yeah and uh because they offered they offered messy something like that but messy Ronaldo makes $180 a year. Yeah.

And because they offered Messi something like that, but Messi took the MLS deal because he gets to share Apple, he gets to share the jersey sales. And the funny thing about it, and I don't know if the reports are true, it might not be. They say they offered Messi a billion.

They offered Messi a billion dollars to go. But Messi don't need no money. He don't need no money. I don't know if it was true or not. You know, a billion dollars in Saudi Arabia for two years. They got it. Knowing them, they got it. Oh, I know they got the money.

And they would have paid it. But I'm sure at this point in his career, I don't want to end it out there in Saudi Arabia. I'm going to end it out here in Miami. I'm going to end it in Saudi Arabia. I ended't want to end it out there in Saudi Arabia. I'm going to end it out here in Miami. I'm going to end it in Saudi Arabia. I ended it

wherever they got a million at. That's where I'm going to end it. You know, that's a conversation you have with... And look at all the perks though, Ocho. I mean,

they got like private jets and they got like a $50 million penthouse and they got all armed security all the time. Man, please. Neymar got it made.

But again, you got to think where you're going now. You got kids, you got a family, you're going now. You got kids. You got a family. You have a wife. And his wife is like, listen, I didn't like it when I was in Paris. And you definitely not going to drag me from Paris and take me to Saudi Arabia.

That ain't happening. Okay, so where do you want to stay? Because I'm going to be over here in Saudi Arabia while you're where you are. I'm going to get this bill. I'm going to get this bill. I will get this money. Ronaldo took the money and ran, which I don't blame him. That's a lot of money.

$180 million a year or so? Yeah, man. That's a lot of bread, man. You know what's funny? You got to think about how much he's already made before he even got to Saudi Arabia. Yes. I think he's like $1.6 billion. I think that's what he's made. In totality.

Yeah, with revenue, with soccer and endorsements and things like that. Crazy. Ocho, a mother went viral for saying her sons will lose inheritance if they have a child out of wedlock. I like that.

Listen, that's a good way to force marriage. That's a good way to force marriage on your kids. You know, using money as an incentive, saying if you do anything

out of wedlock, okay, you ain't getting the money. You ain't getting the money. You know? Now, if they're driven by that, you know, if money is the motive, then you already know what you're going to get. If they don't care about that, you know, and sometimes due to unfortunate circumstances, shit happens. Yeah.

Shit happens, huh? The only way to prevent that is they can't put raw meat on somebody now. It is. It is. Man. It is. How much money? Hey, Ojo. What is how much money hey Ojo what is it

hey Ojo this is what I'm gonna ask mama mama how much is my inheritance right and you know what it was better it was better if you got a report

right it would have been better if they told us what the number was yeah that's what I'm saying hey mama how much is my inheritance 50,000

nah mama I ain't gonna be able to hold off on that. I think the biggest thing in a situation like that, I don't think they want to disappoint their mom because they know how important that is for her. Right. You know, she was probably, when she gave birth to them, they were probably, the dad was probably in there.

And so she wants to continue that. She wants to continue that succession of, hey, we do things we do things the right way we're married you know blah blah blah we don't have baby over here baby over there baby out there and so i don't have a problem with that hey look i don't i don't tell anybody um how to really govern uh uh their their families oh joe right yes sir how they had to divvy up their money if that's what she wants the stipulation because a lot of people have stipulations and not on inheritance, but they have stipulations and in prenups. Yes.

You know, you got to have sex X amount of time. You can't gain a certain amount of weight. You have to look a certain way. You have to look a certain way. So it is what it is. They put that in prenups. Hell yeah. Absolutely. That's a little that's a little extensive.

Because when you get... Do one of us get fat? I mean, listen. I mean, once you cross that, once you jump that broom, you're supposed to accept your partner for however they are. Sometimes... No. Sometimes he falls.

I accepted you how I met you. I don't want you to look like this here. You ain't fitna be no 155 and two months be 275. Oh, no, that ain't gonna happen. I thought you supposed to love your person, love your partner. I did. I love the person that I married. I don't know who this is.

Somebody kicked out my wife. Right. Oh, that's funny. No, I mean, people do put that. Actually, people do put things like that in the prenup or, you know, who gets the dog or who gets what and all kinds of things. You know, obviously pets are, you know, a lot of people have pets. You know, hey, I get the dog or I get visitation or I get the dog. You get the cat or whatever the case may be.

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Ocho, a French woman was swindled out of $800,000 by scammers, posing as Brad Pitt, who made her believe she was dating him and that they needed help paying for medical care after reportedly telling the scammer that she had recently divorced her husband and said almost all of her divorce settlement about 800 000 it was 798 000 american dollars after fake brad pitt had he had developed kidney cancer and needed a loan

because his bank accounts were locked out because of ongoing divorce proceeding with Angelina Jolie. The woman sent an AI generated image of Brad Pitt's face over a man in a hospital in hospital bed. I mean, is she that dumb or is that stupid? August 2025. Brad Pitt would have FaceTime you. It's 2025. He was It's 2025 He was too sick He was too sick If you getting scammed in 2025

Out of 800,000 You deserve to be scammed It's 2025 And how the hell you truly believe Brad Pitt need 800,000 Because all the reports said That they had actually frozen Some of his bank accounts

because the ongoing pending divorce because when you're in a pending divorce they like sometimes they will freeze your assets if they think you're trying to hide or you're trying to move the money they'll absolutely freeze them even if they froze some of his assets brad pitt has access to 800,000 yeah even if so. We talk about one of the greatest actors of all time. This ain't no Joe Blow. Come on, man. I mean, you can't be that guy.

Come on, man. Ocho, when you look at Ocho, you look at Ocho. She had just gotten divorced. She thought Brad Pitt was interested in her. Hey, you know, love is blinding, Ocho. It's like a cataract. That ain't love. That definitely ain't love.

It was on her part. How's she loving somebody if she just left somebody? You just got divorced. Exactly. She lonely. And you think Brad Pitt was next in line? Ocho, you know how, that's how you play on someone's emotion. Someone that just lost a loved one. What do you do? You play, that's how you that's how you play on someone's emotion. Someone someone that just lost a loved one.

What do you do? You play on that. That's how you get close to somebody. Oh, you grieving. I want to be there for you. I'm a cry on your shoulder. And next thing you know, you don't slip meat in them. You see how that work.

You see how that work. Hey. It happens every time. Yeah. Yeah. see how that worked hey it happens every time yeah and uh i don't think you're gonna get this money back yeah definitely not definitely not because there's probably no way to track that no probably not listen if you have a scammer that can get $800,000 out of you, that ain't just no ordinary scammer. Are they good, Ocho?

That's a professional. Ocho, look at Bernie Madoff. Bernie Madoff got $3 billion. Listen, you know how to do that Ponzi scheme? No, I don't want to know either. I mean, we can have $3 billion, though. No, you can have time. He in jail.

He not out yet? Give me that look. He ain't never getting it. As long as they make tea, he going to be in jail. And Chinese been making tea for 5,000 years, so he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Yeah. He got 150 years, so he ain't got 150 years.

He gave him 150? Yeah. Boy, so he ain't got 150 years. He gave him 150? Yeah. Boy, that privilege ain't work on his end, huh? Man, you steal that kind of money and the people that he stole it from. See, that's why they need to start handing out sentences. When you hand out sentences, they give somebody 100 years.

We'll stop this from doing all the crime because we're going to make if you don't serve all that time, we're going to have to get some family members to help support the rest of that. So you got 100 years sentence and you only do 50? All right. How y'all going to break this up? Hey, I got to you. And that's great.

No, but it's bad. But that's Ocho. It's always. Think about it, Ocho. They look at the scam. I mean, the UPS, oh, you got a package, but you just need to send $4. I don't know. They got links.

They got links they sent to you. Yes. I ain't got nothing. I just hit delete. I ain't clicking on nothing. I don't even know my credit card information on, I don't click on nothing. I don't even know about, I don't even know about what, I don't even know my credit card information,

so I can't give it to you. And so I just hit this swipe, and it's gone. Delete. Yeah. That's crazy. All right. Well, I think about them days when I,

I mean, you probably don't know about it, but, you know, I'm of, I'm 10% of Nigerian descent. So, like I used to be a Yahoo boy. I don't know if you know anything about us but but oh man i just i'm that's another story for another day man walgreens ceo says anti-shoplifting strategy backfired the top executive at walgreens lamented the loss of sales from putting items that like toothpaste behind locking key crackdown on rampant shoplifting has plagued the pharmacy

chains around the country when you lock things up you don't sell as many of them you don't but but a lot some of these are like in college areas because uh the target over there by ucla campus yeah i mean used to be able to go in there and get a a toothpaste and and and deodorant and shower gel and just grab it right now you got like god dang bro and they stand right there bro can you just leave it open i'm sorry we can't okay well just while you're here just let me get that that that and that but i i get what he's saying because people are stealing it. Yeah. So,

I mean, he, I mean, they got to take precautions as far as, as far as, um, like trying to, trying to keep you from stealing it. Right.

But then, but then it's, it's messing up, is messing up sales because. Yes. Well, guess what? But guess what?

We're not selling as many of it, but they were stealing more of it so i'm lose i'm gonna lose lose either way you look at it yes how do you how do you counter that as a ceo what do you do at that point i don't know i just have to leave it locked up because i guarantee you they're stealing leaving a guy like that right probably and that's why and people talk about man the prices the price keep going up because they keep stealing leaving a guy like that they're probably and that's why and people talk about man the prices the price keep going up because they keep stealing right you keep

they keep stealing it's driving the prices up something something has to offset that and that messing up everything it messes up for everybody yeah

I just I just I people don't seem to understand how, how, how the economy works. Somebody got to pay for that. Oh, yeah. For lost, I got,

somebody has to pay for that, Ocho. Every time, I don't think people understand. Guess who going to have to pay for it? The consumer that actually buys it. All of us. The thief, the thief ain't paying for it. We have to pay for it.

And then, you know, they've gotten really lax to list this up. What is it like eight 50 or a thousand dollars? And it's not a credit. Just write you a little citation or something like that. Like $900. And so, uh, yeah, it's bad. I mean, at target is to say it's targets the same thing.

A lot of these, like it used to be like, um, where did I go? Hell, I went to Sally's. I think the other day and they got stuff, the grease and stuff like that. Well, damn Sally beauty supply. Yeah.

I like, man, I'm trying to give you some, I'm trying to give us on that 57, 10 Beijing. You know what I'm saying? That's why you, it was locked up.

Okay. So my hair is still great. But see, that's why I like to go get stuff in, in, in bulk. So I'll buy, keep going back.

Yeah. I'll buy, I'll buy 20 a list of rings. I'll buy 42 of the toothpaste, 15 deodorants. Yeah. Cause I don't like going back. Cause I know y'all will have it locked up. So, and then now Shelly just ordered it. So I only really have toants. Yeah. Because I don't like going back because I know y'all will have it locked up.

So and then now Shelly just ordered. So I only really have to go. Right. Yeah. But I walk a CEO Walgreens. I totally understand. It is a hassle to go in there when you're used to going. You're in a hurry.

Oh, Joe. Yeah. There's never anybody there. They're normally, you know, cashiers or something. You know, pharmacists or whatever the case may be. got to go ask them excuse me can you go open such and such and you know they got a thousand keys on there hey see i i i kind of i agree with you in a little bit but i don't think you really understand the joy and in in the pleasure and the excitement it gives me now to give you context, remember when you was a little kid and you was going in the store?

Yeah. Remember Zares? You remember? You've heard of Zares? Yeah, the jewelry store. Yeah. No, no, no, no. That's, no.

Zares was like, back in the day, like in the early 80s, in the early 80s, late 90s, Zares was like a J a jc penny almost like a little bit or publics or something like that or wow i think if i if i'm not mistaken like it like a target that feeling you had when you know you're going you're going and going into target let's say you're a little kid and your mama say before we get in here i'm telling you right now don't you ask me for nothing but then oh and excitement and knowing you was going in there and there's a possibility you might be able to get some oh z y z y r e yeah discount chain z a z a y r e s yeah yeah even as even as a grown adult at my age um there's a certain level of excitement i swear i swear for god and i'll be able to go in the store and get stuff.

To go to Target, you don't understand what that Target run does. I didn't know Target existed until I got to Colorado. For real? No. But we had Belks. We had JCPenney. We had stuff like that.

We have no Target in Glenville. There was no Target in Savannah. Not when I went to school. So you don't understand the joy of actually take going on a target run and walking up and down the aisles going for one item and coming out with 10 like oh yeah that's why i like to go shopping now because i ain't never going to buy one thing right i go get orange juice i'm coming out with muffins i'm coming out with pretzels yes yes popcorn i'm coming out with pretzels yes popcorn i'm coming out with a whole bunch of listen i'm going to yeah i know what it's like to go yeah even when you go into like these little convenience stores ocho yeah stuff was all out there you had all those cookies on the thing and there was penny cookies and penny

candy and all that stuff you missed that right ain't no more i don't think is there anything that's in a store that you can buy for a penny i can't remember last time i've been inside a a convenience store no nothing at all they lock it and then you like you want to sort of they think can i get a sprite the guy go get the sprite and put it in the thing you just can't walk in the store after a certain time right things have changed and they've had to change i mean you know it's gotten dangerous out of here you know people a lot of people don't care don't care anything about their life and they damn sure don't care anything about yours so yeah they'll take whatever they can and it's not good enough to just take it and just move on they end up harming

somebody but yeah i i definitely understand what the CEO is talking about, but we all get impacted by that, Ocho, because it drives the prices up for everybody. Oh, yeah. They're going to get that money back some way. Q and A, Ocho. Nightcaps, you've donated $550 to a board.

Oh, okay. I was going to say that first, but go ahead. We got the animation. Come on, Ocho. We got Nightcap. I was going to say that first. Go ahead. We got animation. Come on, Ocho. We got nightcap. I mean, Q&A. Nightcappers, you donated $550 for a very worthy cause. Thank you so much.

Also, I'm doing a personal donation because I think this is a very, very worthy cause. And I really appreciate the young brother trying to get out there and try to help people and give back because I hate to see people not get an opportunity to be successful because nobody will hire them because of a past mistake. So hopefully this will this will help. And. And I really appreciate what this young man is doing, but thank you guys for donating to a very worthy cause. Shout out to Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy, Olivia Hawkins, and Taylor Bell.

Big donators. Doc, you've always been great. You've been here for... Doc, I'll begin to wonder. Doc, you got a job. Belvedon Don04, salute 44 KG to the guys coming home

trying to make it uh make it in as a hard-ass profession what is salute 44

G to the guys coming home trying to make it in a hard-ass profession oh yeah

but look I get it you know look anytime that your life is at risk uh obviously that that's very, very, very, very tough. But it gives you an opportunity to do an honest profession. And, you know, a lot of times there are some there are some programs that they are out there that they hire guys that's previously been incarcerated. As long as the crime isn't, you know, one of the most heinous natures.

And he was explaining to us there are certain crimes in order to get into the program you can't be convicted of. But I just like the fact that he's trying to help because it's tough when somebody won't give you a job and you need to eat, you need a place over your head. Maybe you have kids or things of that nature, Ocho. It's really hard. And so I just appreciate what the brother's doing. Yes, sir.

Keenan Frazier's story was inspiring. Keep doing what you're doing what you're doing. Wish I had more to help your cause. Any little bit of help, kid, but we appreciate that, man. SLS says, shout out to all the firefighters for the hard work they're doing. Sending love from Canada. Yep.

We greatly, greatly appreciate it. So much damage has been done, um, to the men and women that's out there fighting, putting their lives on the line to try to get these fires under control, uh, here at everybody at nightcap and all our listeners, we're sending our thoughts and prayers with you. Hopefully everybody makes it home safely. Uh, a nice farm D much love to all the first responders and all behind the scene

people. I see you. Yes you yes we do and we respect you danquarius hill said my brother's in west hill grad and i want to show his appreciation for everything that community did for my bro his time there but nightcap fam stand up yes we support all good here laney ray just wanted to donate to a worthy cause cheers to the chief and firefighters and all my fellow non-profit workers out there as well for the fighting a good fight. Fighting the good fight. Yes, lady. Thank you. Appreciate that.

Bradenson. My dad was a correctional officer at the fire camp in California. He loved those inmates and working alongside them. Some of the most hardworking and kind people. Thank you. Appreciate your dad. Yes. Kevin Norwood Jr., who's the worst quarterback in NFL history

or wide receiver in NFL history? The worst quarterback? Yes. Nathan Peterman? He got a strong case. Jamarcus Ryan Leaf I think the thing is Ocho

is because those guys were such high draft picks I mean you know a guy that's a fourth round pick or something like that but you're the first pick in the draft you're the number two pick in the draft it's a lot of pressure to live up to those expectations it really is uh wide receiver whoo to live up to those expectations, huh? It really is.

Wide receiver? Woo. Blackman? Jacksonville? But, I mean, he got in trouble, though, huh? Well, he didn't feel the expectation. Charles Rodgers got to have some injuries, broke his collarbone, like the second he held out, broke his collarbone,

ended up broken it again. I mean, you probably have to go back. I mean, considering the NFL is over 100 years old, I'm sure there were some, but they didn't get the coverage like we have now. Kim Abdul-Juan. What's good, Nightcap? I'm a big Atlanta

Falcons fan, and I'm liking the connection between Michael Penix Jr. and Drake London. Uncle Nocho, do you think they'm a big Atlanta Falcons fan, and I'm liking the connection between Michael Penix Jr. and Drake London. Uncle Nocho, do you think they can be a top-tier quarterback, wide receiver, combo next season? Yes. Yeah. I mean, the sample size that we got from Penix in London is so small,

but it only has room to grow. You know, obviously getting the offseason together, getting the minicamp together, getting the training camp together, you know, in a full season, it has the potential to be very, very, very good. Because when you think about it, Ocho, Kirk Cousins took the majority of the reps with Drake London. So they're only going to get better once they get the minicamp

and they get the OTAs, they get the training camp, and he's getting the majority of rest with London. But if there was any indication the last couple of games, that seemed to be back a budding combo. Big Rude, your Uncle Ocho from Cleveland, a Sam Browns fan. What do y'all think the Browns should do to get back to continuing, starting with the draft? Would you ever coach in the NFL?

Ocho, why receiver coach? No, I ain't coaching NFL, AFL, college, high school, junior league, midget. Excuse me. Flag football? Huh? What about flag? No. I don't want to be no coaching.

Nah. It was all I could take to coach the celebrities and they had the basketball everybody everybody everybody everybody play in time

everybody coach I'm just getting hot bro you just got three turnovers how you getting hot I don't know but what you guys need to do you got to get a quarterback you're not winning

no team is winning in the NFL without a quarterback. Without consistent quarterback play, it is very, very difficult for you to win in today's time. Look at the team that's currently in the playoffs. What do they all have? Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks. And if I'm not mistaken, Lamar might be the lowest drafted quarterback at 32. Jared Goff was number one overall.

Jayden Daniels was number two overall. Josh Allen was number seven. Patrick Mahomes was, I think, 10. Who else we leave out? Jalen Hurst was second round pick. And then Matthew Stafford was number one overall. But you got to have a quarterback. You got to get consistent quarterback,

consistent quarterback play in order to have a chance to win currently in the NFL. Without it, you don't have a chance. Right. Isaiah Lancaster, Uncle Nocho, who wins Buffalo Ravens

and how do the Ravens slow down Josh Allen? Also, what are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings calling Tatum the softest Celtic superstar? I disagree with it. Who you got? Yes.

How are they going to stop Derrick Henry? Did you see the first time the Ravens played the Bills? One of the Bills' front line is undersized. Undersized tremendously. If the Steelers, whose identity is defense, and I would think better suited to stop Derrick Henry, couldn't do nothing with him,

the Bills definitely ain't going to be able to do nothing with him. He going to run crazy. He going to run wild. Now you go out there and you stack nine in the box, you stack eight in the box,

you know what that can be do. Then, now that's a different story. Well, here's the thing though the thing though cho but the best way to stop uh josh allen is keep his ass on the bench off the field and the ravens have the type of offense that can do that when you gotta dig henry and you gotta lamar jackson you gotta be able to stop both of those guys that look i understand james cook had a phenomenal year uh so if i had 16 17 russian, he was phenomenal. So was Josh Allen.

But the best running back quarterback duo in the NFL, it's them two, and it's not close. That's Lamar and Derrick Henry, and it's not close. Ocho, let me go back. I made a reference. I was talking about Little League football when I said midgets. I was not talking about little people. I was talking about that's what we used to call Pop Warner.

We used to call it midget football. Midget football. That's what we said. But you know, Ocho, you and I taught people parts of words. He was being disrespectful to little people. Oh, my God. Yeah. I just like to clear things up because, you know,

people are always looking to try to cancel somebody. So I was making a reference. I wasn't talking about the actual individuals and I understand they want to be called little people, but I've spoken to little people that they like the term, the M term. And it's like, it's not disrespectful, but I was talking about the group,

the age when we had, like, I think we're, I think I started playing. I was nine. That's what they call the league we played in. So, and just like race cars,

they call it midgets. But you know, some people, some people want to take everything and blow it out of proportion, don't you? It's so funny. Long time ago,

I had a year where I was able to stay with my mama in LA, right? Yeah. I tried it with her one time when I was younger and my grandma

brought me on back. I played for Wilshire Yellow Jackets. I played the midgets. There was no weight class. It was the midgets. That's funny. I just thought about that.

But you know how it is, don't you? People are always looking for something to try to, oh, he being disrespectful to little people. That's a derogatory term. He knows better. He shouldn't have said this. And then all the groups come out and they try to boycott and do all

this stuff. So I just want to clarify. I was not talking about individuals. I was talking about the group. That's what they call the league that we played in. Even the little race cars, that's what they call the race cars. It's still called that on the circuit. So I just wanted to make sure we cleared that up. Okay.

Second part, what are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings calling, uh, uh, Jason Tatum, the softest Celtic superstar. I disagree with it. That's Brandon Jennings opinion. I don't,

you know, it's, it's just hard to, to get upset with somebody where they have an opinion or, you know, Brandon Jennings played in the league. Uh, and that's his opinion of Jason Tatum.

Uh, I think the thing is now you don't have, they're not required to be what the guys were in the seventies, eighties and nineties. Right. And it's okay. There's a different way. Everybody doesn't have to be,

and everybody don't have to be scowling and everybody don't have to try to run people over to be successful. All I know is he put the ball out, put the ball in a very high clip. I have a question. So he, he says he's soft. Is he basing that

based off his mannerisms or his style of play? Probably his mannerisms and style of play. Okay. You know, Ocho, you know we grew up, we always thought

light-skinned guys were soft. Hey, we going at him. Right. You could not be light-skinned and had good hair. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you mean.

We punishing you, bro. We already know you soft. You had to prove to us that you weren't. But in today's time, obviously, Ocho, you're a kid. You think that because, you know, our coaches instill that. You know he's soft. Okay.

I believe it, too. But I don't think Jason Tatum is soft. I just think he has a different way of doing things. Right. I mean. He gets it done doing it his way. Yeah, the man is a three-time first team all nba player he's on the championship team i guess because he didn't win the finals mvp or he went to eastern conference mvp that makes him soft so what so what is nicola yokich he's all finesse

but all i know is he's a three-time league mvp and a finals mvp that's all i know is he's a three-time league MVP and a finals MVP that's all I know is he Shaq? no everybody can't do what Shaq did everybody don't got to be cutthroat and trying to cut people's head off like Jordan at the end of the day do you get the job done?

right I mean look there's many different there's DHL there's UPS there's FedEx there's Amazon different, there's DHL, there's UPS, there's FedEx, there's Amazon. All of them will deliver your package. Jason Tatum put the ball in at an elite level.

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and he lost Gabe Davis, and he lost Stephon Diggs, and he lost White, and he lost Micah Hyde, and he lost Poah Hyde and he lost Poirier and he lost Matt Milano for a large part of the season. Absolutely. Yeah. Damn so. Yes. And listen. But he don't. Lamar got those stats. So Lamar is going to win the MVP.

Sir K says, what's up guys? In y'all's opinion, is Justin Herbert afraid of the playoff legs because regular season game is amazing, but in the playoffs, not so much? Why is that? I don't think so. Guys, y'all see, Patrick Mahomes and Brady got y'all spoiled. Yo.

Because y'all think that it's easy. Uh-huh. How soon did Peyton Manning win a playoff game? They went 13-3. His second year, they went 13-3. They lost at home. They lost at home. You know who they lost to?

The Tennessee Titans. And then they were getting beat 41-0 by the Jets and Chad Pennington. Yeah, oh, that defense was crazy back then. Boy, the Jets and Chad Pennington. Yeah, oh, that defense was crazy back then, boy, that Jets D.

No, that was before they had Revis. No, I know, the defense was, it was good though. Oh,

yeah, yeah, they, bro, everybody's not going to have the success that Brady and, and that's the thing,

Brady and Patrick Mahomes is ruining it for a lot of people. Look at Elway. Look how long it took John to win. To win Super Bowls. I mean, yeah.

It took the drive for him to make a name for himself. He goes 98 yards. He ties the game. They end up winning in overtime. But guys, it's not easy.

At all. I mean, Lamar Lamar first couple of times he didn't win in the playoffs. It takes time. And we think Lamar we don't, Lamar first couple of times, he didn't win in the playoffs. It takes time. And we think Lamar, we don't think Lamar is a fraud, do we? But Patrick Mahomes, you know, his first year, he takes starting. He goes to the AFC Championship game.

He loses to Brady. He comes back, and he wins it. He goes back the next year, he loses in the Super Bowl. He goes back, he misses it, Cincinnati goes, and then he wins the next two years. And y'all think that's common. Y'all think that's normal. Brady wins three championships in his first five years,

and y'all think that's normal. It's not. Difficult. It's hard to win in this league. It's hard to win games. It's doubly hard to win playoff games, and it's triple, quadruple hard to win Super Bowls. Yeah.

And y'all better stop. It's just like, you know, some people have success, Ocho. It's just like now, people like, people think making money

is easy. Making money ain't easy. Right. Making money is easy. I mean, you get a job and make money, but the type of money

that they're talking about, oh, I want private jet money. I want Rolls Royce and G-Wagon money. It ain't easy making that type of money that they're talking about. Oh, I want private jet money. I want Rolls Royce and G-Wagon money. Ain't it easy making that kind of money, Ocho? At all. At all. Hold on.

The right way? Thank you. Man. Man, please. Brandon Hall donated $100. New subscriber. Wanted to let y'all know. I love to show what you guys are doing but also wanted to make a donation

to the Chiefs cause yes thank you Brandon we really appreciate that yes because I think it's a very worthy cause I really do I love what he's doing I love to see organization helping in the community and a lot of times I donate anonymously

because I like doing that but I just wanted the Chiefs to know that I really believe in him and I really appreciate what he's doing. Cal Simpson says, Sup, Uncle Ocho, been a fan since Ocho's Hall of Fame induction on the sidelines. Sorry I'm late, wanted to donate, but had to pull over my semi first. Wrecking 80,000 gallons of gas to donate to the firefighters would be counterproductive. You're absolutely

right, Cal. You should have came by here and let me drive that thing. I'll back that thing up and let me back that rig up by two miles. I'll back AT wheel up two miles and won't even have to pull up once. No, you won't. You mad? I ain't never seen...

I'm sorry I said it. My bad, Ocho. My bad. Remember, don't forget, I had a rig, man. Damn. I ain't said anything. I got my CDL. You can't drive no truck, man, especially not with no cab on the back. I brought it up. I don't saying anything. I got my CDL. You can't drive no truck, man, especially not with no cab on the back. I bought it up.

I don't even know why I mentioned it. Yeah, I'm just, you know. If I know it's going to cause that kind of problem, damn. I'm just saying. You talk about driving a rig like it's easy. It's not easy. You play the NFL easy? Oh, no, that's very difficult okay then I did that

but you give me two give me I'll tell you what you do give me two weeks I'll fly the space shuttle give me two weeks and I'll take the place hey don't make me do it I jump the fence and take off on you I'm gonna come bail you out too. I'm going to be up and down. All you hear is T-minus-4 and counting. Three, two, one. We have ignition. We have lift off. Man, I'll get it.

Man, I'll set it. We're going to steal the space shuttle. Man, I'll set it. We're going to steal the space shuttle. Unc said, I have an A. All y'all see in the window. Hey, well, you get up there and get stuck, boy. You know you ain't coming down. They will come get me. All right.

I'm going to take it. I'm going to go to Mars. Nah nah you don't want jersey girl 1973 say okanocho love the show happy uh belated birthday can i wish my husband a happy birthday and he's a cigar guy do you have any recommendations also ocho well uh jersey girl happy belated birthday to your husband hopefully you you guys did something great. You guys got an opportunity to celebrate. You took him out to a nice dinner, you know, rubbed his feet. And then, you know, all the other stuff that married couples do. Oh, yeah.

Oh, Joe, she says her husband is a cigar guy. Is there any recommendation? I mean, if he's a cigar guy, I don't know what his palate like. I don't know what he, you know, what he likes, you know, like spicy mile. But for me, for what I like, I like, I like dark.

I like, uh, something a little heavy. I like that the lunatic 70 gauge. I love big ring gauges. Um, let me see what else, what else could he try?

Obviously you can try one of my cigars. 85 cigars is, is more of a, more of a rookie experience as a smoker so everyone can enjoy it but if he's a little bit more experienced being that he is a cigar smoker that that lunatic 70 gauge is one that i love one that i love and i continue to go to the andalusian bull obviously with cigar of the year i think in maybe 2015 that's a good smoke um madrone 1926 series is another good one.

And that's just three off the back that I smoke outside of my own. Yeah, I don't know anything about no cigar, so I ain't finna hold you. We gonna get you a cigar in New Orleans, man. What I'm gonna do with it? Smoke it. Uh... what I'm gonna do with it smoke it uh I don't know about that don't you I don't know about that don't you cause you

I mean you my brother's a big cigar guy you know what I did I bid on some cigars I went to Danny Dan Marino you know he has a celebrity he used to have a celebrity

golf tournament I don't know if he has it anymore right and I bid on these they were like 10 of them and I won the bid for a thousand dollars oh

they dried out though damn you let the cigar dry out I didn't know I didn't know I needed a humidor hell I thought I could just Oh. They dried out, though. Damn. You let the cigar dry out, man? I didn't know. I ain't know I needed a humidor. Hell, I thought I could just keep them. It was all in a nice box. I said, bro, bro.

I told my bro, I said, bro, you can have these. Right. Oh, he tripping. Fell apart in his hand. Bro, why are you not in the bed? Damn. It's past your bedtime.

Wait, you got him on the bedtime too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He normally goes to bed about 8 o'clock. Okay. But I started a little early tonight. And so we started at 7, so he was up. Come on. Get so we started seven. So he was up. Come on.

Get up. Get up. Come on. Okay. Okay. I'm going to try to pet you. You kind of like TV, huh? Yes, I see you.

I love you too, buddy. You're a big old boy. You want a treat? You want a treat? All right. We're about done. I think this was the last one. We got two more questions.

Ocho, we got two more questions, and then I'll get you a treat, okay? Off. Okay, Nemo Bray said, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Love y'all podcast and look up to you guys. Can I get a birthday shout out?

I'll be turning 21 on Saturday. What advice would you give on becoming a great man? Nemo, thank you, bro, for watching. Hopefully you're a subscriber. Happy 21st birthday. You'll never be 21 again. That's supposed to be the entry. Now you're a subscriber. Happy 21st birthday. You'll never be 21 again.

That's supposed to be the entry. Now you're supposed to be a man. You can drink, you can do a lot of different things. Uh, what are some great advice becoming a great man? Oh, that's a good one.

It is. Um, be respectful. Um, It is. Be respectful. Be kind. Be receptive to courtesy. Be considerate. Take care of your responsibilities. I take that very serious.

I think all men should take care of their responsibility, whatever the case may be. Uh, my responsibility is my family. And, uh, I take that very, very serious, but there's a lot of different things that you can do. Um, be a great partner. Um, I don't think it's a combination of things of becoming a man. There are a lot of things that make you a man. Not necessarily your age. And not necessarily just one thing like, okay, I take care of my kids. Okay. You're supposed to. You help create them. Told me that, yeah. Yeah. Reynolds Burns,

Ocho, long time subscriber. I have a question for y'all. I want to hang out with my... I want to hang out with my i want i want to hang out with my friend but she always has an excuse should i give up yeah yeah after the after the first excuse that's a wrap that's a wrap yeah don't play that game don't let listen don't let her play that game how you like a how you like a puppet playing with you yeah i don't i don't know if you've ever spent any time with it it's a little bit more difficult once you are like you spend time with someone and then all of a sudden they start playing these

games because they kind of got your emotions you kind of invested a little bit um but if you never like really hung out with her and you're hoping to hang out with her and she always comes up with an excuse bro let that slide bro well you know what the play is you know what it is and they think but at the end of the day bro you got the uh you got to be with who like you i mean sometimes the the best one, the best looking ones, the finest ones, they don't find you nearly as attractive as someone less.

So be with that person. I ain't begging nobody to be with me. Okay, I might beg a little bit. Choose who choose you. I might beg a little bit, Ocho. You beg a little bit? Little bit. Yeah, sometimes,

sometimes, you know, you do the begging early and sometimes you sit back and reflect and you gotta sometimes you gotta remember who you are now oh yeah

sometimes you gotta remember who you are they drag you they drag you too long and you start to remember man what the hell am I doing you snap out of you snap out of that shit

real quick now yeah yeah you right you right you right Ojo you right yeah Man, what the hell am I doing? You snap out of that shit real quick now. Yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right, Ocho. You're right.

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