Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Colorado dominant, Travis Hunter Heisman odds, Hunter claps back

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best moments of the college football season thus far. Top stories include Colorado taking down UCF, Travis Hunter Heisman odds, Hunter throwing shade at Richard Sherman’s “bland” comments and much more!03:18 - Colorado Buffaloes take down UCF04:10 - Travis Hunter moving up in Heisman odds13:15 - Travis Hunter wears a “bland” t-shirt following Richard Sherman comments(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See DKNG.com slash promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. The Colorado Buffaloes beat UCF 48-21 excuse me the Buffaloes were 14 point underdogs improved to four four and one two and on the big 12 Travis Hunter caught a touchdown pass intercepted a pass in the same game for the second time in the last three weeks excuse me it's the fourth time in his three-year college career that he's done that. He struck the Heisman pose after he picked off KJ Jefferson with a diving interception in the third quarter.

He's transferred from Arkansas, right? KJ Jefferson. Wasn't he at Arkansas the last couple of years? Ocho, speaking of, now it's time for Money Moves presented by DraftKings. Travis Hunter has... We moving on up. Hey, we moving on up like the Jefferson. Travis Hunter now has the third best Heisman odds.

Jalen Milrow from Alabama, plus 225, is number one. Cam Ward, Miami, plus 225, is number one. Cam Ward, Miami, plus 500. Number two, Travis Hunter, plus 750. Number three, Dylan Gabriel, Oregon, plus 1,200. He's fourth. Statistically, Hunter has put up elite numbers

at receiver. He entered the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions, sixth in receiving yards, tied for fourth in TD catches with five. He caught the weekend ranked fourth nationally in receptions, sixth in receiving yards, tied for fourth in TD catches with five. He caught nine passes today, 89 yards and a touchdown, and grabbed one of the best cover corners in the game. Colorado came from

behind with a win over Baylor last week. Hunter had the game-winning forced fumble on the goal line. Hunter played 128 snaps on Saturday. According to Fox broadcast, he's averaging about 130 snaps per game. When we talk about heisting, right,

there's so many different factors that go into it. But what Travis Hunter is doing, it needs to be taken into account. This is something special. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball. There are very few players that are able to play on both sides of the ball and affect the game on both sides of the ball.

The fact that Travis Hunter is able to do both, it speaks volumes. This is no disrespect to Cam Ward. This is no disrespect to Jalen Monroe and what they're doing. Quarterbacks, most of the time, they always win the award based on what they're doing. Always. But what Travis Hunter is doing this year, it needs to be taken a little bit more serious.

A little bit more serious. I don't think people really understand, especially those that are voting. I don't know who did the goddamn odds. Who did the goddamn odds? No matter what, based on what he's done so far, this season already, he should be first. He's affecting both sides of the ball.

It's not unheard of. It's been done before, but hasn't been done before like this at this level. The way he's doing it. The intercept. Affecting the game. Winning the game. The fumble. On the goal line. At receiver.

Putting up good numbers. Come on, man. Oh, Joe. Charles, come on. Oh, Joe, they keep Charles. Wilson did play offense, but he did not play like this. Every,

he didn't play. If they had 70 snaps, he wasn't playing 65 of those snaps. He had a package in which he played and he played extremely well. We're not going to minimize Charles Wilson. He did. He became the first defensive player to win the Heisman but he did not play as

many snaps on the offensive side of the football as Travis Hunter is playing he's coming out of the game they're running 75 plays and he's only missing two or three of those plays and he's missing five or six snaps on the defensive side so basically he's playing all but nine

maybe ten snaps in a game. Unheard of. Yes. But young, young bull condition is out this world. Young book. Listen, much respect to Travis.

I know, you know, I know you're going to see this. I already gave you a message. I have my shite. So I know you're going to get this message. If I don't get that DM with that Jersey, I'm telling you Monday FedEx.

I, I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want no excuses. that jersey. I'm telling you, Monday, FedEx, I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want no excuses. Any money is coming straight to me. Coming straight to me. Period. Colorado look good today, huh? This was the most complete game that I've seen them play, maybe

since Prime has been there. The ability to run the football, the way they protect it, should do it. Should do it through the football, the way they protect it should do it. Should do it through the football. The way they, look, they got some, I mean, late in the ballgame, UCF ran the football, got some plays, but I thought they did a great job of containing him early on in the ballgame, doing enough to disrupt his rhythm.

I mean, I don't, when I look at him, I don't think they should have ever been concerned about his ability to throw the football. He's more dangerous with his legs than he is his arm. But I thought this was the most complete game. The way they dominated this game, they got after the quarterback. They did a great job of protecting Shador. Shador, you did a great job of throwing the football. But I thought this was one of the more complete ballgames,

if not the most complete. I'm talking about when you look at running, throwing, stopping to run, getting after the quarterback, defending. I thought this was, and it was on the road. I thought CU played one hell of a ballgame. They played really well.

I'm happy for Prime. I'm happy for Prime. This is one more week. You get to keep them off your back. One more week. You get to keep them off your back. And listen, they 4-1 this year. They 4-1 so far. You know, a lot of people say they wouldn't even be in this position.

What I like for Prime is improvement year to year. The improvement year to year. All they need is a little time. All they need is a little time to get the right people, the right dogs in here, you know, and next year it's going to be even better. And it's going to be continued. It's going to be a gradual build.

Nothing overnight. A gradual build. And improvement is there. We can see it. Yeah, it had to be, Ocho, for the simple fact that man they went 1-12 and y'all expect the man to go in there and go to the and they go to the damn Rose Bowl or the damn Peach Bowl his first year in the alpha team went 1-12 where have they ever done that at nowhere and oh he all hype I mean coach Saban didn't coach Saban didn't win no 12 games his first game his first year there hype my ass it's gonna take time and Coach Saban didn't win no 12 games his first year there. Hype my ass.

It's going to take time. And Coach Saban had a bunch of four- and five-star recruits. I'm not so sure how many four- and five-star recruits Prime had before he got to Colorado. Mm-hmm. But it's going to take some time. But I was very impressed with the way they played today. I mean, if you look at Ocho, they had 14 points in the first quarter.

They got 13 in the second quarter. They got another 14 in the third quarter. It was another seven. So they were complete. They didn't take their foot off the gas. They did an unbelievable job today of running the football. I thought they did a better job of protecting the football. I thought they did a great job of getting after the quarterback,

attacking the line of scrimmage, did a good job in pass coverage. There's nothing – you know, look, I'm sure Coach Prime will say, hey, I'm pleased with the win. But I heard Coach Saban said, you know what? He said, to win and play poorly is a kiss of death. I said, the way it was explained to me, you never accept anything in a win, you win in a loss. But people don't understand that because you know why?

They just, hey, we won the ball game you can't let your players accept that type of attitude because that yeah beat it hurt that hurt you beat i don't want oh joe i don't want to wait till i get beat to get your undivided attention i want to be in a situation where i can get your attention that way we don't be in this find ourselves in that situation well i tried to tell y'all this was going to happen. Now, maybe you'll listen next time. I love what Coach Saban said. I love the way Prime

said, we can't be happy with just winning. That's not good enough. Who they got next, son? Who they got next? Who they play next? They got at Kansas State or at home? They're at home against Kansas State.

Kansas State really good. Are they good? They really good. I want to go to the game. You think I can get a ticket? Yeah, you call Prime. He'll get you one. Oh, I'm about to go to the game. I hope it's cold, too,

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No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation

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We got that. What happened? What did Sherman say about Buddy? We got Sherman's. Okay. Okay. He said he was saying that his skills defensivelyly second to none he's he's a true corner he has tremendous instincts great ball skills but he said that he was bland as a receiver

i get what sherman's saying that he's not a like like chase and jefferson polished okay okay okay okay that's what he's saying. He's an athlete, player, receiver, and because he's so much more athletic than a lot of people that's defending him, he's going to make a play. I understand. He took offense to him?

He took offense. I think Coach Time put Sherm and Trav in contact with each other, and they were able to have a conversation. Look, he said, as a receiver, I just think he's kind of bland. Sherm, a former NFL cornerback. Remember,

Sherm was a wide receiver. He went to Stanford as a wide receiver. He ended up moving to a defensive back. Said on the Lions I'm on St. Brown podcast, St. Brown as Sherman, if he thinks Hunter can play both wide receiver

and cornerback in the NFL. Sherman said, hell no. You know that, right? You're talking crazy. But there's been a lot. There's been a lot. You and I think, yes, he can play packages.

But nobody, I don't believe anybody thinks he's going to play every snap on offense, every snap on defense. Nobody believes that. Do we believe that he can be a defensive back and have a package of plays on offense? Yes.

Yes. Because we've seen it before. We've seen Prime do it, Charles Woodson. There have been a couple of guys. J.J. Watt had a couple of packages as a defensive lineman. But to play every snap, so the NFL, to try to play 120 snaps in an NFL game? Listen, you have to have the endurance of the Ethiopian runners. That's the kind of endurance you're going to have to have.

But when I think about it, I mean, when I think about Travis Hunter and how special he is, even at the receiver's position, I understand what Sherman's talking about in a sense, but I understand I'm also understanding how much work and how much time he has to work on his

craft from a receiver standpoint. He's so athletically gifted once they sharpen up all the tools, man, it's a wrap. If he gets drafted, he has to get drafted as a wide receiver anyway. Because that's where the money is. That's where the money is. I see Travis Hunter.

I think you'd be better suited. Forget the money, Ocho. Forget the money. Where can I thrive? Where's my best chance to be the most productive player I could possibly be? I think it's on the other side of the ball. Don't do me like that. He got to play receiver.

He got to play receiver. You got to understand, the money's on the receiving end. And then the packages, the packages at the DB, boom. They got to give you a little bonus for that. Ocho, you think... Hold on. What packages? I'm saying, when he gets to the NFL, he going to have small packages. a little bonus for that. Oh, Joe. You think... Hold on. What package is... I'm saying,

when he get to the NFL, he gonna have small packages like a nickel. He could be the nickel on third. I bet you he'll play more snaps on defense than offense. No, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen.

As his agent, as his agent, he probably ain't gonna hire me, but as his agent, I'm telling him, man, buddy, man, listen here, man. Let me tell you something. You want to play receiver.

You got receivers making 30 million a year. So by the time it's time for you to get paid, you talk about 45, maybe 50. As a matter of fact, they got to pay you 50 because you play both sides of the ball. We can integrate that into your contract, you know, and, you know, the fine print. What you talking about? Nah.

You don't want him on the defense end. They underpaid. I'm just looking at it from a skill set and where his skills are right now. He's a much better defensive back than he is a wide receiver.

I don't agree with you simply for the fact that what he's doing on defense is instinctive based on watching film and knowing what's coming as opposed to looking at what he can do at receiver. Okay.

Let me ask you a question. How many comebacks have you seen him run? How many comebacks have you seen him run? How many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, I'm Ocho, what you mean you haven't? That's a wide receiver and you haven't seen him in two years? Wait a minute, wait a minute, don't jump down my throat

now, I'm on I'm just asking, don't normally receivers gotta run comebacks He can probably run comebacks I ain't say probably I'm just asking. Don't normally receivers got to run comebacks. He can probably run comebacks. I ain't saying probably. I said, Ocho, how many comebacks have you seen him run? Well, maybe they don't have comebacks in that offense.

Ocho, come on, dog. You asked me how many comebacks have I seen him run. Well, they don't have comebacks in that offense, which you want me to say. I ain't seen. How many digs? Oh, I didn't see anybody dig. I've seen somebody dig and come out the back door. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I ain't seen him. How many digs? Oh, I didn't see anybody dig. I've seen him run a dig and come out the back door. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I've seen him take, hey, I've seen him catch a slant and reverse and reverse field and come back out where he ran the slant at. Ocho, I'm just saying, looking at him, studied, but since he's been at Colorado, watched him a little bit at Jackson State because a lot State because when they came on

ESPN, I was paying attention. Watching him, I think his skill set for DB is far superior. Because like I said, he's a natural DB. He can just roll out of bed like, hey,

I got a boy right here. His back pedal, the way he can back pedal and the way he can transition. Now, you know, in order to play receiver, these guys will choke you out here if you can't release.

Oh, see, I don't know about that part of his game. I don't know about that. His lateral movement is, his lateral movement is better. He seems like a long stride. He is. He tall. He tall. He taller than your face.

He like 6'3". We can work on that. We can work on that. He tall. He taller than your face. We can work on that. He come train with me. Train with me for three months.

Man, listen. I get him open in the phone booth. I get him open in the phone booth. 6'3". All we got to do is shorten up your gait, shorten up your steps. And once you get out that dead area off the line, then you can open up all you want.

I just, like I said, I think he's phenomenal. He's as good an athlete that I've seen with my own eyes. And I've seen some pretty good ones. Like I said, I was in the year, came in the year after time. And so I watched him and I was in the league when Bo was in the league. They're two of the greatest athletes. You know, when you can play a professional sport.

Two? Yeah. Baseball and football? I played three, but go ahead. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, everybody in the NFL played two sports, three sports in high school, but to do it professionally. That was me.

Yeah. So it's unbelievable. I mean, everybody in the NFL played two sports, three sports in high school, but to do it professionally. That was me, yeah. So it's unbelievable. Like I said, I just want to see him. I think he's better suited at the end of the day. I don't think he has to make a decision. I think the team's going to help him make that decision. They're going to say, son, we're going to give you some packages on the offensive side of football.

But I think, see, Ocho, you're looking to give you some packages on the offensive side of football. But I think... See, Ocho, you're looking at it from a pure monetary standpoint. I'm looking at it from the best. Look, for me, a monetary standpoint, tell a wide receiver. But where could I make my bones?

What could I be the best at? Tied in. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you. Here's the thing. I'll give you an example. Now, if he had Tyreek's speed, I was like, okay, you're right. You don't have to have that

kind of speed. That's necessary. No, but guys that don't have that kind of speed, what can they do? Tell the people at home, for guys that don't have Tyreek's speed, and they play wide receiver, what can they do? Tell the people at home, for guys that don't have Tyreek speed, and they play wide receiver, what can they do, Ocho? You couldn't touch them in a forward move.

They're technically sound. There's a reason why Steve Largent, when he retired, had all the records. He ran 4-7, but he was a route-running technician. Guys that aren't speed merchants, but he was a route-running technician. Guys that aren't speed merchants, they can run the route tree and make

every route look the same. The release, the slant, looks just like the quick out, looks just like the smoke, looks just like the over, looks just like the end, the comeback. He's fast, though. He's fast. He's 4.3. He's 4.3. And if he's not 4.3. He 4-3. And if he's not 4-3, he will be by the time

in draft time. 4-2 is great. That's a great tool to have in your toolbox, but you don't literally have to be 4-2 to be effective. Look at Justin Jefferson. Look at Jamal Chase. Ocho, you're talking about elite receivers that run routes.

You just said you haven't seen them run the whole tree. I'm at heaven because it's not a part of their offense. I mean, their specific offense. But what I do see him do, I know what he can do when he get that ball in his hands. I know that. Yes. Ocho, do you know, Ocho, you know how good these DBs are if you can't consistently release. They will eat you.

They in your chest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna work on that. I got you. That's what I'm saying. But I don't know even if his releases will ever be where his DB skills are.

Some things he just got. God gave him right out the bed. He just woke up. God made that long angular body. He can be fluid. He can back. Because normally, you know, guys that are corners that are long, you know, it's hard for them to flip their hips.

He can flip his hips. Natural. Natural. He can flip his hips. And that's what you got to be able to do, Ocho, because you got to be able to turn and that's what you gotta be able to do Ocho cause you gotta be able to turn and run you gotta be able to turn and drive and come forward

hey you know I used to give him hell boy back in 87 what shit I know what you're talking about listen but you know I told you and time said this shit, I know what you're talking about it's an A and I you know, I told you, and time said this

time said, had I just like focused on being a wide receiver, just focused on that, I could have went to Hall of Fame and he could have, because he had that kind of speed you got to realize, now time is up to you it looks like he ain't running damn near sometimes

no, it didn't. It didn't. But he could fly. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Su, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.

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