Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Colton Hood JOINS Nightcap + Wemby WEIGHS IN on 65-Game RULE + How OFTEN do NBA STARS play on TV? + Anonymous NBA Player MVP Poll + Doc Rivers OUT as Head Coach

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson are joined by Tennessee cornerback Colton Hood to talk about how he’s preparing for the NFL draft, Wemby gives his thoughts on the 65 game rule, and how often do the NBA stars actually play in national televised games and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Colton Hood joins15:18 - Wemby weighs in on 65 game rule37:13 - How often do all the NBA stars on national tv actually play41:25 - Anonymous NBA player poll for MVP45:35 - Doc Rivers leaving the Bucks Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm in Kansas City right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yep, what's up? What's going on? All right, we got a time to welcome my very special guest. He's a cornerback at the University of Tennessee, a 2025 second team, all SEC pick, a projected first round pick,

Colton Hood. Colton, how you doing, both? You know what I'm living, so. Man, thanks for joining us. What's going on. From Alabama, from Auburn to Colorado to Tennessee. What did you learn at each stop along the way that prepared you for this moment?

I would say just, you know, just how to be where your feet are, you know what I'm saying? East spot was, you know, different in their own ways, but just learning to be where my feet are and just, you know, be able to jail with new people at each spot, you know, definitely taught me that. And, you know, I feel like I can take that, you know, into an NFL locker room, you know, being able to go in there, be myself, you know what I'm saying, and be able to jail

with my teammates. Hey, speaking of NFL locker room, what has the process been like? Obviously, the schools you've been at in learning from different coaches, learning from different players, getting insight, watching NFL players that you might mold your game after. what has the process been like so far um i would say it's been like a dream come true you know like as a little kid you dream of you know being in this position um so it's been a dream come true being able to you know go to the different different teams and see all see all the different places so um it's been a dream come true and you know i'm definitely excited for draft night for sure see hood what's going on

man tell me a little something about your game tell me about yourself or who you model your game after guys you enjoy watching, you know, as you was growing up. Tell me a little. Yeah, so, you know, my uncle played in the league. His name Rod Hood. He played nine seasons. And we got done. He was Patrick Peterson's personal trainer.

So, you know, I got to grow up watching him a lot around him, even seen like a lot of his, you know, all 22 stuff. So Patrick Peterson is a really big one. Someone I looked up to try to model my game after, you know, his patience at press, you know, his ball tracking ability, return ability as well. You know what I'm saying? So definitely that. Okay, that's what so.

Hey, when it comes to play, go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. I want to just ask, I'm a huge fan of DB play, even though obviously I play receiver. But if you had to talk about your best asset, your best attribute, your best strength when it comes to play and defense it back, what would it be? Man and man off, ball skills, technique.

I mean, what would be? Yeah, I would definitely say, like, my technique. And when I'm playing man and man, you know, you see a lot of guys backing up when they're pressing, you know, allowing the receiver to dictate to them. I'm kind of like the opposite. And I want to dictate to the receiver. You know what I'm saying?

Make them do what I want them to do. You know what I'm saying? That type of thing. So I'll say definitely my press man ability would definitely be, I'll say, my biggest strength. So I remember seeing you up at Colorado a couple of times, you know what I'm saying?

We got to line it up, bro. I mean, we got to line it up. We got to line it up. That what I'm talking about. Hold on. Hey, hey, hey, see, hood. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

Hey, I think Monica's, who soon got that song, age ain't nothing but a number? Alia. Alia, okay, Alia. But listen to it. See, hood, let me tell you something real quick, right? Before you get drafted, if you want to get some work in, my feet didn't age. I did. So if you want some of this work, we can go.

No, let's get, come on, bell, line it up, man. Hey, come out there, feet hood. Hey, play that song. Welcome to Robbillard. Yeah. So you leave the SEC, you go to Colorado, and then you return to Tennessee back to the SEC. And your time with Colorado and Coach Prime.

Because that's what Coach Crime was the best DB to ever play the game. And so I'm sure that you took something. What did Coach Prime teach you about how to play this position? Obviously, it's like, look, the thing that you can't do with the corner, and we see a lot of corners. And Ocho and I was talking about this, is that you panic. That's the thing.

And you get a pass and a offense with all you have to do is just turn around. But they panic because they feel their beat and they don't trust their instincts. They don't trust their technique. So what was some of the things, some of the nuggets that Coach Prime are up there? I think honestly the biggest thing I learned for Coach Prime

was just like how important watching film could be for you, you know what I'm saying? Like I think he would harp on, you know, film watch, you know what I'm saying? and I would watch film before, but like the intent that he taught it to us and how to watch it, you know what I'm saying? I think it could definitely take somebody's game

from being good to being great, you know what I'm saying? And I think that was the biggest thing I would say that I learned from him for sure. You know what I'm not. I mean, you tell you tested off the chart. How did you think that changed the perception of you coming out because of what you were able to do it? Yeah, I think, you know,

I think a lot of people were, I guess, doubting, you know, my speed, my, you know, athleticism, things like that. But, you know, I was always taught, like, if you're a DB and you run a full speed, and that's how 10, you beat, you know what I'm saying? So I guess kind of, that's kind of why they... That's a good one. Hey, say that again. Say it again.

So if you're a db and, you know, you run a full speed at some point, then you, you're not out of 10, you beat. So, you know, like, that's a bar. So, you know, like, I guess on tape, people don't really see me running full speed a lot. I'm not beat a lot of this time. So, you know, I got to go out there and show that. at my protein and my and the common. So I think that was the biggest thing. Because when you look at your speed, I mean, your 4-4, which is plenty

fast enough, the 40-and-a-half inch vertical and the 10-and-a-half long jump, so it lets me know that you're explosive. You dropped 40? Yeah, well, I did a little bit in high school, but baseball is my main second sport. Yeah. Okay, okay. Hey, what do you play? Oh, so you are, you're Griffey.

Yeah, that was my favorite, bro. That was my favorite player growing up, bro. I swear. Yeah, I was left-handed, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, Seahill, you played four sports in high school. Yeah, I played football, baseball, basketball, track. What did you run a track?

I just did the four by one. I only did it in my senior year, though, because, you know, this date, yeah, they're the same time in baseball season track, day the same time. But then like, so like we got knocked out of the playoffs early in baseball, my senior year. And so the track coach was like, somebody got hurt and they needed me to come run. And so shoot, I just ran the last leg on the four by one. What was y'all?

What was y'all for about one time? I can't remember the exact time, but we got runner up in state. So we did pretty good. What are you from? I'm from, man. Oh, okay. I went to Eagles Land and Christian, the private school. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, man, Georgia is a melting. I'm talking about, man, they got so much talent running down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be trying to tell us, man. Georgia boys shoot. We different. Yeah, you hear that, Ocho?

We different. I know, we're going to see when we later. Come on, bro. I mean, you, but this is a thing, though. You don't got my number. You don't got me on Instagram. You feel me? So I feel like you just talking.

You know what I'm saying? You got, go ahead. Follow me on Instagram. Hold on. Hold on. We can lace it up. Hey, we have your information. That's how you got it on.

Okay, so that's what I'm saying, though. Let's get it. Let's get it lined up. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. You in Kansas City. When you back in Atlanta? Well, I'm going to be back home.

I'll be back home. What? Wednesday? I'll be back home Wednesday. Okay. Wednesday, matter of fact, I don't even have nothing to do this week. I'm already in shape because I play soccer day. So if you need me to come down to Atlanta.

Come home. Come home. You got a camera man? You got a camera man? Yeah, I got a cameraman. Okay, okay, because you're not going out and told me. I'm telling you that right now. What I do?

Hey, just put them head. I'm putting them hands on this change. That's what I'm going to do too long. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. Come on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, listen.

Hey, brotherhood on all 85 of my kids, ain't nobody ever touched me off the line of scrimmage. I live for that. What we talk about? Listen, I ain't tell you no lie. I got my uniform out of the dry cleaners every Sunday with a crease in it. For reason. Hey, man.

All right. I ain't going to do too much more talk. I told you what it is, what it ain't. You feel it? We just got to lace it up. Hold on. And you started, you started to talk.

You talking to a real trash talker. But physicality. You mentioned like you like to press. Physicality is kind of what you're known for. And I think the thing is that, look, a lot of people don't want to be physical anymore because they're afraid of the initial surge of the virus. These guys are really good.

I mean, you look at it, you don't have to be dealing with Chase and Pooka Nacour and J.S.N. And Justin Jefferson, these guys are really, really good. But if you are what you believe you are, you can't let the name dictate how you play. A lot of times, guys dictate, let the name dictate the type of coverage. Man, man, I don't. No, no, no, no, no. You got to have to have fear. Regardless who you go up against, you got to believe. Yeah, like, I ain't going to lie.

You're going to show me you better than me. I'm saying, like, like, like, you feel what I'm doing? I'm going out there, I'm not, you feel me, I'm not thinking nobody, I think I'm the best thing out there, you know what I'm saying? So you had to show me, like my first ever start was against Terrell and McMillan. He had to show me and he ain't showed me, so.

Hmm. I like that. I like it. Through this whole process, what's been your biggest motivation? I would definitely say like my family, my parents, they all sacrificed a lot for me, you know, just going up, just waking me up early and more

me taking me to the hills. My dad would do that all the time. My mom, she, she worked hard. She work her butt off. She's a doctor, so she'd be up. I'll be seeing her up like 3 a.m. doing charts and stuff like that. So definitely them.

Like, I want to, you know, make life easier for them. You know, I think about them all the time. And then I was saying my siblings, too. I got seven siblings. I got older brothers, three older brothers. And then five younger siblings, two younger sisters, three, two younger sisters. Oh, man, four younger sisters.

Some of younger siblings. I have two younger sisters, two younger brothers. So just them for real, like send another example for my younger siblings. And then, you know, my oldest brother, he told his he tore his ACL four times. So he didn't really get to live his dream. So I definitely want to, you know, go out there and, you know, be able to allow him to live his dream vicariously through me for sure. Wow. Man, that's.

That's unbelievable, man. Check aside. You say your brother tore his ACL four times. Did they find out what the imbalance was? Because there has to be an imbalance for you to tear your ACL. Yeah, I think it was. Whether it was the mechanics, whether it's hips, was it. He's on the line.

His knee, his quads two dominant, hamstrings too weak. Two, half-street two-dominidant, quads two-week. Did they find out what was wrong? What was causing it? I don't really know exactly. I know that after the first time he did his surgery, and he tried to come back too fast, and that caused the second time. And then, like, once you get it, like, twice,

and it's just like, you know what I'm saying? Everything is kind of out of whack, you know what I'm saying? So. Did they use a cadaver, or did they partially take the patella? I don't know none of that. I don't know. Okay. Hey, hey, see, her.

Check this out. I heard you talk about your family. Your pops, I read that, you know, he made you write down your goals at a young age. Right, true. How were you when you started doing that? I was like, shoot. I was like eight years old, I think. Yeah, I was like eight years old.

Me and my, he made me and my brother like make a vision board with like five year, five year plan, 10 year plan, 15 year plan, or 20 year. man and so how often how often did you look at it was it was in my bedroom in my wall so it was like every day i see it like it was in like on the wall it's like a big poster board so it's like you know like those postal boys people take in from like school yeah like a big posture each part of the section had like my five-year plan was here 10 year 15 year 20 year and every day i woke up i'll see it so and that's dope bro that's like update that thing i got you I got you.

I got you. I'm for the steal an idea. I'm for the steal an idea for my younger kids. I like that. Yeah. That they're five, 10, year,

15 year, I like that. You decided like when you get that first, when you get that first big check, what do you want to buy? What do you want to do? Um, shoot,

I ain't going to lie. I'm pretty modest, I would say, like, I'm not really a big, I get a spender. I do kind of want a new car, though,

so if anything, I'll probably get a new car. what you get what you get what you get i don't even i don't even know yet to be honest like i'm i'm kind of all over i don't know if i want to bans i don't know i don't know what i want to be honest i'm saying you had you had need for speed no i'm not really i like to be smooth you know what i'm saying like cool just chilling type of yeah when you was growing up when you was growing up when you was growing up like man if i ever get some money what was the first car did you say man if i able to get some money. Well, I'm not going to be

able to get the car that I said, like, off my first contract, but the car I said out the first contract, though? Oh, hold on, you said something like Boo. Godi, that's what I'm saying? You're going to be Halloween. I know you didn't say, no, Bugatti. It's going to be able to get that off the first contract. Hey, listen, hey, who?

Yeah, I got a Bugatti. I think I got a Bugatti at least one for a year. I think I was in year seven, I think maybe year 708, if I'm not mistaken. I least at least one, six months. Did it for six months. And I think I got fine. I tweeted on the sideline in the middle of the game. I got hit. I came to the sideline and I tweeted that it's okay, guys, I'm okay. And the NFL fined me like 30 grand for that. And that was one of my payments.

And at that point, when the season ended, I said that, I said that bitch back. Because, hey, we want to talk about an experience and doing something. one time just to be able to say I did it. Yeah. And not getting caught up in the lifestyle and the image of having to keep it. I got you. Great experience. For sure.

Yeah. Wow, man. Well, congratulations. Tell your family. I said hello. Congratulations on all your success. Remember now, you get into the NFL. That's not the end of your journey.

Yeah, I got you. Just the beginning. Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah, man. So congratulations. One Georgia boy. Yes, sir. Appreciate you.

Hey, keep doing what you do. Keep making a pride, bro. Hey, Othell. My phone. Hit my phone, bro. He said you heard. I got you. Hey, hey, you know the saying I get opening the phone.

I say what you're going. All right. Hey, make sure you play the song. Welcome to my food. I got you. Appreciate you, Joe. Yeah, you too. Appreciate you, bro.

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for sure it's not going to reflect their impact on a season. But at the same time, in my opinion, it's good to have a threshold, you know, a limit. where do we need to put it I don't know it's a good question let me ask you our question like what percentage of this season right now without calculating how much six every what percent of the season do you think should be the limit 75 80 okay two thirds two thirds okay so many 70 percent passing so you don't think you should be a limit yeah that's a

that's a good that's a good way to put it If a guy plays 50 games, 35 minutes a game, that's 50 times 35, that's 1750, right? Is that not right? Yeah. If a guy plays 75 games at 20 minutes, it's, hold on, it's 1,500. So, you know, it's not, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a good view in my opinion to not have a limit it's a it's one opinion 75% of the games in my opinion would be a logical thing and that would be uh 21.5 games right so 62 games

when you look at it lucas played 2200 and 89 minutes he's not eligible kate Cunningham is played 2150 minutes he's not eligible ant man is played 210050 minutes he's not eligible 137 minutes. He's not eligible. Wemby has played 1866 minutes. He's eligible. Charles Barkley goes off on players complaining about the 65 game rule. I don't think 65 games is a lot to ask. Shut the hell up.

Y'all vote for the collective bargaining and now you want to complain. If y'all wasn't sitting on your ass after time sipping margaritas and stuff, they wouldn't put the 65 games in. Shut the hell up. Hey, look, Charles got a valid. valuable point, fellas, because the collective bargaining agreement, the players had to, you know,

they had to vote in on that. This is what they, this is what we as the players asked for. So they got to hold it up, bro. They got to because look, they're not going back to, you know, to where it's not a game limit. It's always going to be a game limit now.

Yep. You know, because it's going to save some of these teams some money. Right. You know what I mean? And it's just unfortunate that, you know, a lot of our stars is hurting them. You know what I mean? And some of these guys, man, you know they will be playing if they could. I think that's the most disheartening thing.

And that's why it's so much drawback. But, I mean, rules are the rules, fellas. Yeah, it's messed up. And, Joe, when you say the players voted on it, I'm sure they have one person that's appointed that represents all the players in general. Yes. Were all the players aware exactly what would have?

happen if they voted on this. Yep. I'm sure they all were. And unfortunately, most of the, most of the superstars who are now ineligible, who are not able to get awards, who are not able to be eligible for supermax contracts, who now it's affecting. Do you think at any point the NBA and good service will go back, being that they have the power to do so and change the rule? I don't.

Oh, Joe. Oh, you know, they can't do that if they wanted to. You got to think about it, Ocho. Think about it. I remember, I'm old enough to remember when the actually drinking age was to 18. You could actually drink at 18, Ocho. Yes, sir. You could buy alcohol at 18.

Given what they know now, you think they're ever going back to that, Ocho? Yeah. Even what they see some of the star players suffering right now. No. The game has changed when Barkley played. The game has changed when Shaq played. The game has changed. Players are bigger,

fast or stronger. They're getting up and down the court at a much higher rate, a much higher volume, and they're having injuries, they're sustaining injuries for a reason. Voting or not voting has consequences. Ah.

Don't get to complain about something that you voted for and it turns around and bites you in the butt. So you cannot purchase a lion and they get mad if it attacks you. Right. you know there's 82 games in the regular season. The threshold that you must meet in order to be eligible for postseason awards is 65.

Yes, sir. Now, a rule that you voted on comebacks to bite you. It's unfair. Oh, it wasn't unfair if you didn't think it was going to impact you or when it wasn't impacting you. You see? Yeah. Sometimes things don't start to bother. until they're on our porch.

You don't realize how bad something smell until the aroma of the stench is in your own. And then you're like, damn, walking in a mug up here. Yeah. I've been dealing with it. You know, another thing, Joe. What's that?

First, you would know better than I would. I'm sure Uncle would probably know, too. What percentage of NBA players, when the season's over, they're still active? Still actively just playing pickup ball like they do with that gym. What's the famous gym

everybody go to in New York? In Summit in New York. Yeah, the summit. How many of them continuously stay active no matter what? I think a lot of the top guys, like the main guys who play a bulk of the minutes, they take a little time off. What I mean, a little time, it may be a couple weeks. But I'm going to be honest.

Man, when I was playing Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about even in the years early in my career, when I was playing 30, 35 minutes, where I probably didn't take no more in the week off. because I enjoy playing a game like you know when in the summer months is when I go back home we had a summer league back home in Little Rock that I used to love playing in so I was always active bro and I think I think nowadays we have so many we're distracted by so much that the guys don't really play as much no more yeah they'll go to the gym and work out with a trainer get up a few shots but I'm talking about that bump and ground you're talking about like five or on five. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you talk about runs. When I was coming up, that's all we did was run. Nobody had no trainers, bro. Everybody, you hooped. You know what I mean? You may

had a guy who had worked you out in the wait room or something, but we hoop. That's how we got better. Nowadays, guys don't really hoop. They just train, train, train, and then they hoop when the season, yeah. Hey, that's a good thing, too. I like that Joe just said that, right? Now, basketball and football is completely different.

Now, we trained through the off-season, but then, I mean, you play how do I say this and say it the right way. So basketball, everyone, you have one, two, three, four, and five. At what point do you work on your Pacific craft and improve your game specifically if all you do and play five on five? You get what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah. I think that's up to the player and how much they want to, you know, how good they want to be. Right. You know, when you really love something, man, you know, you'll put your all into it. And you'll find ways to get better when you're not around. everybody else. Like, I always, you know, I tell my son out of time, bro, like, you're not going

going to get better than everybody by just going, getting better at practice. It's going to be the things that you do by yourself alone when nobody's watching. Are you out there? You're doing your push-ups. Are you getting extra shots up? You know, it's things like that. And I'm not sure a lot of guys do that, bro. They just, they wait to practice to try and get better, and that shit just not enough. Yeah. No, I think, and Ocho, what we tried to do is that we took what we had trained into our season and tried to implement it in practice. Okay, I worked on this.

Yeah. Okay, the steps that I took. And so now I got to be able to implement that because instead of running this, doing this stuff on air, I got a guy in front of me. Yeah. I got a guy putting hands on me. I got an internal clock like, damn,

it's taking too long up. So I got to speed it up. So Joe is saying like, look, okay, it's fine to have a trainer. But you need to go work, what you train, what you work on, implement that on a five on five. Yeah. The spots that you shot at, okay, can you, can you get those, can you get to that

spot in a five on five and hit those shots? One here, two, three, four, five, six. That's what you need to work on. But it seems like Joe, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm great, like, all do guys do is just like work on that and then wait to the whole season. They ain't really doing run. I don't know. I still think they have runs because I think UCLA, that were the guys used to have in California, that place would be jam packed. And every once in a while you see somebody will post something where they got a lot of NBA guys

and they're getting runs in and it's, you know, some big names up in there. But for the most part, like I said, all that stuff, you've got to be able to implement it. Yeah. You practice it, then you can't. What good is practicing something, no, Joe,

if you can't implement it in the game? What the hell you're practicing it for? Right. I'm thinking about players, obviously, Joe, that are really skillful or want to continue to add tools of their bag. Yeah. Add tools of their bag, not just out there doing stuff that's not going to work in the game.

Yeah. When I train, Joe, I train to do things at game speed and game tempo that I'm going to have to do when the bullets are flying for real. Right, absolutely. You're doing no bull drive just to be doing no bull drive. Right, right. And you got to look at it. You know, the more you play, you get that live action to read and react.

Yeah. versus you being out there by yourself, hell, running these goals and slants and all that. Hell, ain't nobody out there to touch you. It's same thing with basketball. It's like, man, I could do all these dripping drills and shooting drills, but if I ain't got nobody with a hand up or pushing me coming off the pick. Reaching for the ball? Yeah, you got to have all that, man.

You got to implement all that. That's why I say you can train, but you definitely got to play because you need the competition. You know what I mean? You need the bump and grind. You got to have that, bro. That's how you get better. Because when you get in between them lines similar to like a quarterback, when he say hype, he has to read and react.

Same thing with basketball. If I'm coming up to court, I got to be able to read and react. You know what I mean? When a guy make a mistake. And if you hadn't been playing a lot of basketball, a lot of competitive hoops, then it's hard to kind of have those instincts right away. You know what I mean? Because in practice, when we run Rouse Joe, Ocho, you know this.

There's got to be a fear. You run a slat that, like, slate to, woo, okay, okay. Okay. Just so you know, I'm here. Yeah. So you got, hey, you run, you're running the route. You run a, let's see if you run a Seattle across, it's zone. And you catch the ball and turn up.

And here comes that, come that, back. Oh, boy, that would have hurt right there. That would really would have hurt. Hey. So you got to have this. So you have to know. And so you get a sense of like, okay, boom, boom, okay. This coverage, this is what the coverage that I thought it was.

Where am I all that going through your head. Man, hey, that's safety coming down. If it's lurk. already what we call it lurk. They call it a robber now, Ocho. We called it lurk because he was lurking around to blow somebody ass up. They call it robbing now. I was like, okay, I ran this shallow cross.

Probably the first guy that's going to hit me because he's seen me going to cross around. It's probably going to be that damn safety because he buzzing down. He's coming. Yeah. The only thing that's going to save me, if he happens to get caught up with the crosser, that's going to end that, he's going to see crossing first. And maybe he intercepts that, takes that guy. And now, but, yeah, I'm a firm believer.

I like doing stuff on air, but air, man, you feel all fast, like, ooh, put, who, set it down on Joe, you know, hurt it. Man, you ain't doing none of that stuff in the game. Funny thing about it, hey, Joe. Who's up? I did do my training by myself, especially, you know, my little cone drills and stuff like that.

Yeah. A hundred miles an hour, Joe. Yeah. When I was an hour, I did it so much to a point where I don't care how many times I mess up, I'm going to move all by myself doing these cone drills as if I'm really running around. Yeah. Got myself and got my body implemented to a point, Joe, I could run full speed and stop on a dime, Joe. And I was able to do it so much and it done it so much in cone drills in tight situations

that weren't even realistic to being in the game. Yeah. I got in the game and had to run 50s. or 20 yards, I'm still able to be going full of speed and get up at that thing in two steps. Here's the problem that they're running against Ocho and Joe against the 65 games. Tom Habistro did a study and found that nationally televised games only 33% of the time the viewers are seeing the star players.

There it is on your screen. How often do they see, how often do all NBA stars on a nationally televised game actually play? Damn. 30% of the time. So less than 33%. of the time, this is why the rule was implemented. Yeah.

Think about the money that Amazon and Peacock and ESPN and all these networks just spent. And look what you got, Ocho. 33% of the time, the stars. So I go to a game, a nationally televised game, there's a great chance.

I'm not going to see the stars. Yep. Right. Yeah. This is why. So you mean to tell me I just gave seven B you? I'm paying collectively. and Amazon and M-E-S-P-N. You mean to tell me, for 7B, this is what I'm getting?

Yeah. When you see it broken down like that, it's understandable now. Yeah. Yeah. They ain't never going back. No, sir. It ain't never going back. Too much.

Ocho, if you think about it, this is why they protect the quarterback. This is why they put all those rules. This is why the defense was receiver Because they want the stars on the damn field Yeah They love football But they love football better when Peyton Manning Tom Brady Bradie Ben Rostersberg and all the big name guys are playing

Man ain't nobody come on man man man Ain't nobody come to see you, Otis Yeah they're not going back bro They're going to keep this they're going to keep this in Y'all gonna say what y'all want to put a skirt on them Put flags on them it ain't never going back You're never going to be able to punish the quarterback like you once could. You're not going to be able to land on him.

You're not going to be able to put your helmet in his chest. You're not going to be able to hit him below his knee. You got this area in which you can hit the quarterback. From his thigh pads to the top of his letters. But you better hit it with your shoulder pad and land on the side of him. Because if you put your helmet right there, I'll say, yeah, we're going to need 15. So that's where they are now.

Go ahead. Now, I'm going to say and the fan. Add the fan of that too now. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. Man, you hit a quarterback. And the bigger the name of the quarterback, boy, you bet. Had that money coming out.

You must rather hurt my whole boy, a one of the top quarterback when you want to. Yeah. Jalen. So they're paying so. I mean, think about what the tickets cost. You're like, oh, man. Ooh, I'm going to see it.

Man, can't wait to see such and such a thing. the haircut somebody if the haircut they come out in the locker room like damn he ain't in uniform so I know he's not playing the night hey come to the NBA have the injury report like the NFL does and let you know who's playing and who's not damn you get that here

you get that like a couple hours before the game on Joe you don't buy the ticket hey that's nasty work hey they ain't give me no refund hey listen that happened to me early in this season uh like the first two weeks of the season I went to like two Hawks game and

Jaylon Johnson then played, some key guys in play. I'm like, I could have stayed at home for this here. Like straight up, you know what I mean? Yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Chuck also reacted to Wemby doing the math in his head on the 65 game rule. What we need

to do is sit all these kids, bad-ass American kids over to friends to go to school. That's the first thing we need to do. All these dummies kids over here, we need to send their ass to France. Who said this? Chuck, Charles Barkley. Hey, Chuck, funny, man.

Hey, France putting them in the league, boy. An anonymous NBA player poll voted, 159 players voted. MVP, Shea. Yolkich was second, Jalen Brown was third, Cade Cunningham, fourth, Luca was fifth, Wemby.

Cat, Kauai, Janus. Joe, did this surprise you? No, it don't surprise me. It don't surprise me not one bit. She at the top. Yoke is right under. Then J.B. K. I think K percentage would have been a lot higher

had he not missed the significant time that he missed, considering the fact that at the time that he was playing, I think they were the number one team in the league at that time. I think they had the best record, if I am mistaken. And I think OKC just kind of, overtook them once, you know, they, uh, they start sliding a little bit. But I don't have no problem with this. I got, I picked Shay.

I picked Shay to win the MVP. Mm-hmm. Hey, and just because the players voted this, this anonymous player poll, hell, this still may not, this still may not be the MVP. Right. You know what I mean? Yokish could potentially still win. Man, Jay, I mean, Jalen Brown, I mean, for him to have the Celtics in the position

that they had them in? given what they had lost and given what was out? Yeah. I know. He was special the entire season. I give him that. Damn, the fans don't really think a whole lot of Wemby. And you've seen lately,

Wembe has been moving up the charts, allegedly. I mean, the way they're regular and the charts about the MVP, hell, Wimby's in the top five. Top three, top four. Over the next eight to ten years, he's going to probably be in the top three area. Yeah. Yeah, outside of this year, after this, he's going to be in the top three,

I would say, for the next eight to ten years. What do you think about, what is it about Wimby that players don't seem to get their arms around, Joe? I think he's still learning. He's super young still. He has great talent around him, Mokka-Ocho. So he's not asked to do a whole lot. He just has games to where he does do a whole lot. whole lot.

Right. I mean, as far as scoring the ball, rebounding, shot blocking, shot altering. You know, I mean, he can rig have it on the defensive end by himself. Yes. You know what I mean? So I think as years continue to go on, people have started to show him a lot more,

a lot more respect because I think he's going to have gotty numbers. I'm looking at it guys. I'm trying to figure out who's going to be that fourth all-NBA player. because the SGA made the cutoff Yokic made the cut off, Jalen Brown made the cut off, Wembe made the cutoff. So we got four. Who's going to be that, who's going to be a

second team all-NBA guy and now all of a sudden he's a first team all-N-B-A guy? That's a good question. Is it during? I think he going to make an all-NBA team. I'm not sure it's going to be the first team, though. But we got to have one more.

They probably gonna go like, uh, he might even throw KD and now. That's a possibility. Possibility. Possibility. Because I think he probably was going to make a team already. Oh, yeah, he'd make it.

Yeah, he's probably going to be, he probably going to be second team. Yeah, so you probably put him in first team. Mm-hmm. Damn. And then somebody going to get more bumped up. Who going to get bumped up? From third to second and somebody that wasn't going to make a team.

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Bucks will now search for the third head coach in three years. Rivers went 97-103 during the three seasons in Milwaukee with two first-round exits after missing the postseason and playing tournament this season. Rivers took over for Bucks and Co late January 24, replacing Adrian Griffin, who had a 30 and 13 record before being fired. Team sources says there was a season-long disconnect between Rivers and the players included instances that annoyed the locker room. Joe, what's going on?

I don't know. It just seems like they weren't filling Doc Rivers. From my understanding, they had a meeting, and they said Doc kind of gloated about his accolades and the things that he's done. Yeah, he's at Google. Your Doc, they don't know who I am. My name is Glenn, but they call me Doc. Hey, and it's what you have in professional sports, fellas, because guys make way too much money for you to be coming in here talking about me. They ain't trying to hit none of that.

They ain't trying to hit that. Well, nobody, Doc, I'm sorry, Doc. I remember Doc. I remember Doc at Barquette. Yeah. I remember Doc with the Hawk with the title with the title of Twitin'I show. Yeah.

Hey, these players ain't standing there, Ocho? Yeah. Hey, A. York was so short, Ocho, the jock, the bottom of the jock be hanging out of the short. Come on, man.

Yeah, hey, hey, Joe, they really can't blame Doc, though, huh? Why? Because, hell, they were 30 and 13, and you fired a coachman you had, you was having a winning season. I want, I wonder what and who precipitated that.

But that ain't none of my business. I mind my black business. Number 34. And well, listen, I think with Doc getting up out of it, I think if others lets me know that Janus will be on the move. Because, oh, he's on the move regardless. Because they already said, Joe, either he signs this extension or we train his ass. Because he ain't getting out of here walking to the end of this contract.

Oh, no. Yeah. Hey, hey, go. Hey, a doctor, I didn't walk into a sweet situation. Oh,

they 30 and 13. I got Dame. I got Yonnas. I can lead D. Boy, give me another title to my belt. Man, I think fell apart.

Because I don't think Dame Hart was never in Milwaukee. Dame really didn't want to leave Portland. But he just knew he wasn't going to win no championship in Portland. Yeah. He really wanted to go to Miami.

But Miami, Miami always try to pinny pinch. Ain't nobody helping you. ain't nobody giving you their best player of Pat Riley for spare parts. They're not. I'll tell you one thing. But if you look at it now, he said the reports are he would be willing to part with Tyler Hero. When you had a chance to get James Harden, you wouldn't do it.

Yeah. You had a chance to get possibly get KD. Reports are you wouldn't do it. Now all of a sudden, bro, ain't nobody giving you. And K.O. where you would have to get up off him, Joe? I know, man. Because he got so much talent. He got some promise.

Yeah. He tried to hold on to him. Yeah. No. Look, if you're pet Riley, man, you got to do something here. You're going to be a playing team for the next however many years. So you got to make a big flash of someone. You got to make some change.

I ain't going to say nothing. I already told you what's happening. But Yon is looking for a house of Coral Gables now. I was okay. You're going to have to give a, hey, you're going to have to give a title of hero and you're going to have to give up where? that's at the minimum that's at the million

yeah you heard of say uh-uh huh yon is looking for a house in coral gables as we speak he can look for a house in western all I know is

you're gonna give up tile of hero you're gonna give up where and you're gonna give a unprotected pick I think that's yonis 30 and 11 hey and if you're Milwaukee you better go on taking stop playing yeah

Yes So But Bad dogs You all better Google me I've won championships I've made some team made Jack

Hey I've got team to the championship That don't work in the professional sports man Yeah You got Hey one thing you know One thing y'all know Bro you got to be relatable

To these players And they got to respect you I ain't saying they don't respect Doc I think they respect them But I think they kind of felt a way obviously behind the meeting that they had and him throwing his accolades around them guys like man damn there hey what jaddy jackson say what have you done for me lately boom boom boom boom boom yeah we hey hold on that was 2009 when was that well hold on i'm

That was 2008 when they won it. So 2008, 2008. Yeah. Because Kobe won it 19. Yeah. And then, and then, uh, uh, Dallas won it in 11. LeBron's first year there. So LeBron's,

LeBron's year that, uh, so it had to be, what year was that? They won 2007, 2007, 2000. 2000, was that two, no, 2007, what you call them? A 2008. It won 2008. 2008. 2008, 2008.

That's when Boston won. Yeah. Bro, that was 18 years ago. Them kids, most of these kids, was two, three tops. It was baby. They were little toddlers. Yeah.

Damn, that seemed like a good. No, we remember Doc. I remember Doc as a player. I do. In Atlanta. Damn. But, man, look, I, man, it's a different time now.

You can't talk to these kids like you once could. You just got a. Hey, it's almost you got to be relatable. Hey, you got to know something. You got to know something about Cod. You got to know something about you. You got to know something about Duke. Man, you got to know stuff like that, man.

You got to be on that level. They're talking about young boys. You talk about Isaac brothers. And Frank and Beverly talk about Sumberbreeze. Hey, the kids don't know nothing about that. It's all about being relatable. Hey, hey, same thing. Because if you're in college and you can't relate,

Hell, he hit in the portal. He's gone. He ain't trying to hear that you talking about. No. Yeah. Bro, every time we put something on, every time we put something on there with a nightcap feed, man, Uncle, what you know about this?

God, die. I say, well, damn. But that's it, guys. Look, just accept it. Yeah. The times that Joe, like, when you grew up in and old Joe, you and I grew up in,

that's over. It ain't coming back. You can't coach. the kids like that. You can't talk to them like you once could. Just accept that. And say, man, I remember. I do too. Well, damn, how do you discipline the kids or somebody nowadays? Discipline who? I'm saying, but no, I'm coaching. How I'm supposed to discipline my guys or my kids in college? What are I supposed to do? You're going to make him do suicides right in

somebody else's practice. You're going to have it running laps and somebody else's geo. That's where it is, that Joe. Hey, for one, Joe. Hey, for one, Joe. the players that you do have, whoever the coach is, you got to have players that respect you. Yes. They have players that respect you. And then you got to know your players personally. You got to know what players you can coach hard.

Then you got to know what players you got to coach and pat on the back. You got to pull them along with you. Damn, boy, what's hard to be a coach nowadays, right? Absolutely. It's difficult. It's a different ball game. You got to jug all these different personalities.

No, you can't make everybody happy. It's going to be two, three guys pissed out for you. that's just how it go. Every time. It's just like your kids, Joe. You got two, three kids. Everybody, hey, hey, somebody going to buck. The law of average says if you got more than one kid,

the thing that you owe all the kids going to fall in line. Nah, somebody going to buck. It's just the way it is. Just the way it is. And now when you be, hey. Hey, you had one of your kids buck at you before? I just, hey, I just go back. to what my grandma say, don't make me hurt you.

Don't make me lose my job. Oh. Yeah. Look, I had, I had a daughter. Right. I had a daughter that was in high school. Yes, sir. And she wanted, you know, hey, she's, you know, she got hormones going on.

Yeah. Her and I talk about it all the time. She said, Daddy, thank you. She says, I look back on it now. You're the type of dad that I need it. Mm-hmm. because if I didn't have you, I would have probably run over my other dad

and it would have been long-term problems down the road now. She said, I appreciate it. She said, I didn't see it at the time. I said, baby, you never do. I said, I'm only going to do what's in the best interest of you. I'm not trying to harm you. I'm not trying to hurt you. I understand.

I've been your age. You've never been mine. That's what they don't understand. I understand what you're going through. but I also I say let me talk to you let me talk to you as a guy that was 17 18 19 20 and what I was looking to do and what I was trying to do to a young lady that was 17 18 1920 alone hello I ain't telling what somebody told me I'm telling what I know I lived it experience is the best teacher yeah so I was I was always her parent I'm always

and I told I was going to always be a parent um but I'm going to try to understand what you're what you're dealing with, what you're going through. But understand, when I say no, it's no. I say no. We got rules.

We got chores. We got to do why I got to do it. Because I said you had to do it. No other reason why, but I said it. Right. No explanation. Hey, she'll tell you.

I ran a tight shit about you. I did. I said, well, hey, I didn't. Hey, Kayla, can you wash the dishes? Kayla, watch the dishes. Kayla, take the trash out. Kayla, take the trash down to the road. I ain't reasoning with no damn child and I'm paying all the bills.

I got a reason with you. Right. How to, how? No. Because when you say, Daddy, can I go here? Daddy, can I have some money? Can I do that? But then when I say do X, Y, and Z,

it was tough because like I said, and she would call her mom, you're like, what you want me to do? He run his house. I don't. Joe, you ain't had no problems on your end yet, huh? No, but it's lessons that have to be learned a hard way on can Ocho. And I'm sure y'all understand it.

Like, I got a 19 yo, so, you know, hell, he, you know, he, hey, for instance, check this out. So for spring break, he just had spring break, right? So he called me, he wanted, he want to get an Airbnb. He wanted $1,000 to get an Airbnb. So me, I'm like, look, man, you got other stuff. you could be doing that you need to be attended to. Like, I don't think, you know, spring break is that damn important. If y'all just want me to be 100 for you to be trying to spend $1,000 on an Airbnb

to have some temporary fun, you know what I mean? Yeah. You blow a whole thousand versus you could have that thousand in your pocket and go do some good with it, but he didn't see it that way. He felt he had to have a thousand dollars. So I sent him $1,000. He blew it, had a whole great weekend now. Look, get what he hit me.

with the next week. He needs money. Shit, hey, look, I don't know what to do for you, bro. You're going to have to figure it out. You know what I mean? Like, you got to figure it out. Because I was trying to tell you this

from the start, like that temporary fun you were trying to have. Yeah. It ain't worth it, my nigga. It ain't worth it. With the homies. Yeah, it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it.

Oh, okay, Ocho, it just ain't worth it, bro. Like, you know. Joe, that's 19, though. Joe, you got to think about when you was 19, Joe. Yeah, they have, is. Ocho, when I was 19, I tell you, you what, I was in my first, in college, I wasn't out here trying to party in spring break.

Hey, look, I had gold. You hear my man say, you had a vision boy? I ain't had no vision boy, but I had a damn vision. You hear me? Yeah, exactly. I knew where I was trying to go, and I wasn't doing that. I'm sorry, I wasn't doing that. I got you.

Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah. And I don't get these kids. They're like, hey, they think, man, you get, that, no, it's the, it's the principle. It's the point of the matter. Yeah. Because I just want you to understand. When you become an adult,

ain't nobody giving out no free money. Man, what? I just gave you X amount of dollars. You chose to go, you chose to go blow that money with all your friends, which they probably ain't chipping nothing. And Barney Porto's to tell my brother now,

he said, son, when you got too many drivers and not enough fixers, he said, y'all riding around all these dudes in the car. So when it go down, when it break down, who's going to help you, who's going to pay for the flat, who's going to pay for the carverator or Spark Plus?

or whatever the case may be. He said, when you got too many drivers and not enough fixes, okay. Yeah. So you got to understand, but like I said, she was very difficult. My son was pretty much like, look,

there have been some times we had some little heads, we butt heads, but I think boys are way more fearful of their father than a girl. Yeah. Way more. We got a little, way, way.

I got a little sauce spot for them, female. Yeah, because it's like, well, he can't really do what he was. Because, you know, my son, mom was like, look, I ain't been to go back and forth with you. I'm just getting on the phone. Hey, hey, what's up? He need to talk to you. Okay. So I already know.

Now, I'm already on one. What you need to talk to me for? Simple. Yeah. If I ask you to do that, would you have told me what you told your mom? Right. Right. Man, don't make me, don't make me leave Denver.

Ojo, you ain't any problem with none of yours? Nah, no, Joe. Nah, Joe. And the only reason I haven't had any problem with Uncle Joe is because their mamas don't play that. Joe, they mama don't, but they were raised hell. I bought you in this, I'm talking about raised hair. I bought you in this world.

I take you out type of hell. No, but see, you need, they need to live with you. No, no, no, no, they need to be what you. See, I had Kayla. Oh, you should buy, like, permanently. Yeah, they need to be, they need every day when you say, no, you can't go. No, you can't go. No, I ain't giving you this.

No, why you buy, why you order that? Every day packages come in. I'm like, hold on. What the hell? I'm like, are my storage or something? I mean, how do you get a package every day? Them Amazon, this shit. I'm like, what the hell?

Yeah. I knew exactly what he told about. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And, you know, I'm a little, I'm a little lenient, too. I know you are. I can tell you. You're a lenient. Hey, but you have to, you have to really push me.

You have to do really, really do something. You ain't really got no business, you know, for me to actually get out of character. Yeah. Man. Because you have to understand because of who we are now. Yeah. And they know that. Mm-hmm.

I, you're on TV, you ain't going to do nothing. You ain't going to do nothing. You don't want this kind of pressure. Yeah, okay. My thing is, it's when your kids tell you their goals and dreams. Yes. And that shit just ain't adding up to the actions that they got going on.

No. You feel me? That's my biggest thing. Okay, Coach. I'm like, hold on. So you want to be X, Y, Z, but make it make sense to me, bro. You know what I mean? That's my biggest thing.

It's like, if you're not working toward whatever it is that you envision yourself being in the next five, 10, 15 years, then what the hell are you doing? Right. Just look. Hey, I don't care what you want to be. I'm only going to push you in the direction

that you choose to go. I'm the way and behind your back. You're sale. You open up, I'm pushing you forward. Because I can't want something for you more than you want it for yourself. Yeah. That's what I'm going to do.

I don't want you, I've lived, I don't want you to do nothing because the thing where I was so worried about Joe and Ocho is that my kid's like, I did this for you. This ain't what I wanted to do. Right. I want you to do whatever you want to do. Hello.

So therefore, that is your decision. I'm going to support you. I'm going to do everything I possibly can to help you reach the destination in which you're trying to get. So whatever you want to do, hey, whatever major you wanted to major in, whatever school you wanted to go to,

got you. Yeah, that's how I was with my older son, Joe. Yeah. Playing football, playing football season was young. Playing football. Arizona State, playing football. And you know what, pops, this ain't really what I want to do. And he didn't want to tell me.

He didn't want to tell me because he didn't want to upset me. He didn't want to feel like he would let me down. Say, man, you ain't let me down, what? Man, playing football was my dream. Thank you. Thank you. If you chose to play it, then so be it. I'm supporting you all the goddamn way.

And when he say, you know, I ain't know how to come and tell you. I say, man, you good. What? Now, what is it you do want to do so I can get behind you and propel you, whatever it is you want to do? Right. I got you a thousand percent. If that's not your dream, that's fine. You ain't got to.

You told them perfect, Ocho. Playing in the NFL was my dream. Right. I don't need, I don't need you to try to. And that's what I tell my kids. I've already done what I wanted to do. Right. I'm not going to live vicariously through you because I achieved it.

I want you to achieve what you want to achieve. And that's why I'm the biggest support. You want to be a doctor. You want to be a lawyer. You want a regular, whatever the case may be. I just want what's best for you. Not what's best for Shannon. Because we have, you got to understand what motivated me.

You didn't have that same stimuli. You had the designer. you went to private schools. You came over. It was a three-car garage. You had Ferrari. Hey, there was whatever you wanted. There was never a time that you said,

I want this for Christmas. And your mom told me, even when time was like, no, that boy don't need. Get in the thing. Damn. Get her. Shannon, she don't need that. Well, that's what she won't.

Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you. But, hey, I tell you, what you can't do, though. You can't just lay in this house up under me and be no bomb now. You can't just lay up under dad and be no bomb.

I ain't going for that one. None of them. I ain't going for that one. I'm sorry. I ain't doing no one. None of them, Joe. A, I got 85 of them. You see me every day.

You didn't see me at the height. You didn't see me lose it all. And you didn't see me get it all back. And I'd be damn. If anybody's going to be sitting there doing nothing, fin to do something. Man. I don't care what it is. Yeah. This house got room for one lazy mopo. And there's me. I mean. And I ain't lazy. And I ain't lazy. Thank you. Thank you.

Ain't nobody finish it up here and swing their feet on me. No. Get it. And you can get it. And you know, the thing isn't like, Daddy, no, you still, daddy, you almost 60 and you still motivated. When you're going to stop? I say stop and do what? Right. What am I going to stop and do? Tell me, I said, just give me a plan. I want each of you to write down, if your daddy stop working tomorrow, what am I going to do? Daddy, you don't do nothing.

So will you want me to stop and do less, more than nothing? That's what I said, I told them all. I say, I want you to write down. If your daddy stop working tomorrow, what am I going to do? Daddy, you don't do nothing. You don't go on no vacation. You don't like to go out to eat.

All you want to do is just stay up in the house and work. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so I said, I ain't even say, you're right, I'm almost 60. But I like to think I got a couple of most summers to go. So what I do in the meantime? What am I doing in the meantime, Ocho and Joe? Yeah.

If I'm not going to, if I do absolutely nothing. So I'm not going to do nightcap. I'm not going to do club, Shee, Shee, I'm not going to try to create and develop other shows and help other people achieve their dreams as far as in the podcast space. What am I going to do? That's it. Hard work is all I know. I've never,

I've never ran from, away from a tough assignment or a hard work. Yeah. So I just thought, I said, guys, I don't know what to tell you. Like, hey. Hey, I just, there's no way you can be

one of mine and see me work. Joe, I'm talking about Joe. I'm getting to the bag, Joe. Yeah. You know, hustle. I'm not talking about in those streets. Honk, I got about 1511 jobs. Like, Jody, you're seeing it.

So I got to be motivated. You got to be inspired. You got to want to do something. Yes. And that's what I'm saying. I'll take my fourth episode of Club Shayshay in the last three days. Damn. So I've done Nightcap on Wednesday,

nightcap on Thursday, nightcap on Saturday. Now, and guess what? I got another episode of Club Shashay to take. I got Nightcap. Guess what? On Tuesday. I'm gonna wake up. I got another episode of club,

Sheesh, guess what? We got nightcap. I'm going to fly home, and then I got another episode of Club Shaysh. And we got nightcap. And we got nightcap. And we got nightcap.

And guess what? Yeah. I got Club Shet and Nightcap on Saturday. But they work in, right? That's it. So there's no, oh, man, you did. I don't know anything. It was the hard work.

And that's what we grew up on. That's how I think we got out of the situation. It's not an accident, but it wasn't by design either. That two boys from Glenville, Georgia, population 3,500, went and achieved what we achieved. It wasn't an accident, but it wasn't by design. Because guess what? The same stimuli. Hard work.

Because Barnaport, A, I'm going to have my brother come on here one night and tell him. My ground free to get up and say, get up. Hey, that's sleeping in? Barney Porter said, get up and watch the sunrise. Get up and watch the sunrise. On a Saturday, ain't nobody sleeping in. Ain't no sleep. Oh, we're going to sleep till nine.

No, Barney Porter with, ain't no leaves on the ground. What'd you mean, wrecked the yard? Something to do. Yeah. So me, I'm the same way. I'll come home sometime. and I just start straightening up. I just start cleaning.

I start vacuum. I start wiping everything down. I'm like, man. I mean, it was to the point every night before I went to bed, Joe. I had to wipe down the countertop. I had to clean the glass table. I had to sweep.

I had to vacuum. I had to make sure everything was neat. I go through the cupboards. Every label placing out. All the napkins spoke. I was like, man, damn, I need to break this habit. I just have that obsessive personality. I just got it.

No, I'm not coming. I'm not coming up stairs. Because you're going to put me to work. Yeah, how do you know? I show them. Every time Shelley comes, I go through a rear range all the drawers again. I can't help it.

I can't. I hate stuff out of place. Yeah. I get off the show and I go through the house and I pick up all the dogs toys because they got toys, you know, they got toys all over the place. I pick up every toy.

Put it back. Matt, take the mats, put them back in the drawer, slide the chairs in, but I got to turn them a certain way. Looking at a refrigerator, do I need to put water in there? Do I need to add another can of ginger rail? I just...

You got over that. OCD heavy, boy. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I know it, too. I know it. I know it.

But that's the way we, that's the way we grew up. And we had to do certain things. Like I said, my grandma said, boy, it ain't much. You're right, it wasn't much. It was a thousand square foot, send a block home with 10 roof. But you say, son, let's try to keep it clean. Yeah. Let's, the phone books, hey, does it hold up the end tables?

They were stacked up under their nice and neat. Yes, sir. Y'all don't know about the phone book. I do. And the series of Robbucks and JCPy catalog, they used to be this thick. The big yellow ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe, check this out. Yonanis says the Bucks haven't offered him an extension. Before we even talk about an extension, somebody got to offer me that. I don't wear the pants in my relationship. I got to ask my wife if my wife says yes, yes. If she says no, no, it's up to her. So you got to ask her. Find her on social media.

follow her podcast. I don't know if she has one. Ask her. Whatever she says, I do. Joe, why he do that? He's throwing up trouble, huh? That's all. See, the thing is,

and Joe, you know this. He don't want that blowback that's going to come because he's asking for a trade. Everybody's going to get it. They haven't offered him a contract. Now, I don't know if it's true, but they said if he doesn't sign the offer,

it's hard for me to believe. Somebody is averaging 3011 over the last two to three years and they haven't offered them a contract extension. Yeah, that's hard for me to believe too. I'm telling my guy who them brought you a title. Like, this ain't, this ain't just no regular degler here. This dude, you know, he's putting it down, man.

But for Yonis to say that, like, put everything on his wife, bro. Come on, man. Remember, this is not the first time. Who did he put it on before, Joe and Ocho? He's agent. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. You see how he tries to put responsibility on everybody else.

So, will y'all blame my wife because she wanted to leave? Blame my agent because he did this deal. I ain't got nothing to do with me. Come on, man. What are we doing? Hey, look, everybody ain't going to like you, bro. Thank you. I think, I think, you know, you have to understand that.

Yonnis has to understand that. Man, you ain't going to be able to please everybody, bro. No. As long as you happy, your family happy, that's the only thing that matters. That's it. You're going to have to, everything else is going to have to kick rocks, partner, for real. Real talk. You know, I'm not sure what he's thinking, you know, throughout these times.

I'm pretty sure they're difficult. But, man, hey, the next chapter of your life, bro, you've got to continue to move on. You've got to continue to evolve. Like, I mean, if you're going to move on, just move on, man. Yeah, that's it. You're going to get criticism. But he saw the blowback like LeBron got. And LeBron didn't even ask for a trade.

LeBron played his contracts out. Yeah. Kevin Durant. He's been traded, but Kevin Durant, they got, he got, KD, he left, KVD was a free agent. But when KD left the Ness and when KD left Brooklyn, I mean, excuse me, Ninnets and Phoenix, he got some pushback.

Okay, Yonis, it's okay. You know what? your time is probably run its course probably run its course and it's okay that you want to leave you're still a phenomenal player but that comes with the territory but don't put this on your wife

don't put this on your agent he got to embrace that villain role he got to embrace being that villain hold on that man the most glaring thing that man said his wife wore the pants in their relationship He said, he don't what a plan.

And that's how you put all the responsibility on her on whatever happened. Exactly. Damn. It sound good, but don't nobody believe that. Because guess what? She's going to go where you go. Hello. It's really that simple.

She's going where you go. And this notion that the agent don't work at the behest of you. So somehow the agent is doing things behind your back that you don't know anything about. your agent is talking to the Milwaukee bus. Yeah, he is. And to beheast of you. He's telling, he's telling, he's telling, he's telling upper management that Janus isn't happy.

He doesn't believe you guys can field a contender and he would like to move on. Here's a list of the teams that he would preferably like to go to. Yeah. Miami's number one. If I, if I'm, if I'm Milwaukee, I said, you know what? We thank him for his services. We'll do everything that we possibly can't do to accommodate him.

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