Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Cowboys shakey win, Travis Hunter snubbed, NIL headed to danger zone

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to DeMarvion Overshown’s pick-6 to boost Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys to a 27-20 Thanksgiving win against Drew Lock and the New York Giants. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders saying he plans to give Travis Hunter his Jim Thorpe trophy after Colorado’s 2-way player and Heisman hopeful gets snubbed out of the award and question if the NIL is headed into dangerous territory after details emerge of Bryce Underwood’s trip to Michigan and how Dave Portnoy, a billionaire and Tom Brady all played a part in flipping the 5-star recruit’s decision to go from LSU to Michigan and much more!03:13 - Cowboys v Giants11:45 - Packers v Dolphins22:51 - Deebo Samuel on Shanahan27:10 - Bryce Underwood’s trip to Michigan33:13 - Coach Prime goes off on Travis Hunter’s Thorpe Awards snub37:00 - Most Sinful Cities in America (wallethub)44:43 - Man leaves wife with hospital bill because she didnt name their son Jr51:44 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Cowboys reignited their ground game, securing their fourth 100-yard rush game of the season. Rico Daudo led the way with a career-high 112 yards on 22 carries. It's his first 100-yard game as a professional. It's also the Cowboys' first by a player, a Cowboy player, since Tony Pollard in Week 3 of 2023. Dowdle also responsible for Cowboys' first rushing attempt of at least 20 yards this year.

The star of the Cowboys was DeMar attempt of at least 20 yards this year. The star of the Cowboys was DeMarvion Overshawn. He secured both of Dallas' turnovers, recovering a fumble, reinforced by Eric Kendrick and Tyrone Tracy, and catching his own batted pass. And, you know, he ran that back for a big six. That was on Drew Locke. That was a good play. Because you see the guy right there, you go open over the top.

You don't throw it. Yeah. Hey, listen, the Cowboys defensively, they play very well. They play very, very well on the run, pass game. They play really well, especially at the point of attack. They were very physical up front, not allowing the Giants to have their way and impose their will.

So I like what I saw from the Cowboys today. But can you do it against the better teams? Can you do it consistently against the teams that have winning records? That's where the issue comes into play for them. I'm hoping everything is okay with CeeDee Lamb. I see he left the game maybe late second, maybe early third quarter. Something wrong with his shoulder. Third quarter, yeah.

You know, he had that bruised rotator, what was it, the AC joint. But they ain't got nothing to do with him dropping them damn passes now. I ain't going to let you do that. Okay, okay. I ain't going to let you do that. Blame that on his shoulder. Yeah, I know. You're talking about the drag.

You're talking about the drag route. I'm talking about he dropped three of them he turned into a retriever all he did was pick the ball up and hand it to the official his job as a receiver his job is to catch the ball not to retrieve the ball yes sir yes he dropped three he had six targets he had two catches malik neighbor same thing for you bro yeah y'all yapping about wanting the ball but you're dropping it yeah he throw it to you, you throw it back at him. So, yeah, I saw CD get dragged

down on his shoulder, but that wasn't why he's dropping those passes. That's lack of concentration. Yeah, most definitely. Same thing with Malik neighbors. I wasn't going to bring up the drop balls, but since you... Why not? You got to. I know, since you bought it to a head, then, boy, you got to catch that pill, baby.

That's the money. That's your moneymaker. That's your moneymaker. That brown ball they call the Duke, you got to love that. You got to love that. You got to love that more than you love your family. Because in order to feed your family, you got to catch that Duke.

They're going to be all right, though. We're going to get that together. That ain't nothing but a little jug machine after practice. Even in week 12, a little jug machine after practice is going to hurt. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking Malik Nabors as a rookie. What they got to do is you catching the ball.

You caught the ball. If you caught the ball, that's something you've been doing all your life, Ocho. We're not asking them to make spectacular catches. Like when they throw you the ball in the frame of your body, catch it. That's all we're asking. No, we don't need no Odell Beckham. We don't need nothing spectacular. When they throw you the ball, Ocho, you catch it.

At some point in time, you got to realize everything is not meant to be a spectacular. Everything is not meant to be a catch and run, Ocho, for 40 yards. You have to understand the situation. You know what? The most important thing here is to get this first down. Let me get this and get on the ground. Yeah. A lot of, if you look at CD, what did CD try to do? He

tried to get up the, wrong. Yeah. I ain't never seen a catch that hit the ground first. Right. If you drop it, it ain't a catch. You jumping up and down, ooh, I'd be gone. And you

would've, but you're not. You're going back to the huddle. Mm-hmm. Come on, guys. I get, look, everybody, it wasn't no sun today. Ain't nobody complaining about no sun, though, Joe. Mm-hmm. Ain't no sun. Yeah, it wasn't out.cho ain't no sun it wasn't out

a small lack of concentration split second taking your eyes off the ball but Ocho normally when you have one of those drops early what do you do you concentrate you focus even more it seems like CD he laughs

concentration he laughs even more because after that part, Ocho, he didn't catch another pass. Yeah. Cooper Rush was 21-36, 195, one touchdown. Like you said, they ran the ball, Ocho. Basically about four yards of carry. They had 32 carries.

That ain't bad. That ain't bad. Nah, you can live with that. Not the greatest, but it ain't bad. Look, you can only beat who's on your schedule. We know the Giants aren't very good, but we've seen the Cowboys lose games like this before also. So give them credit

for keeping focused on a short week, not still celebrating the victory in Washington, coming out there handling their business today, when you get two, string two together, now you get about five or six days off before you get ready for the next Sunday. You still, look, everything,

you're going to probably need to run the table, Ocho, in order to get one of these playoff spots. Yeah, wild card. You're getting three teams out of the NFC North. Minnesota, Green Bay, and Detroit. So there's only one spot left. Right. Cowboys, San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona.

Well, there's one problem, huh? What? And that goes for all Cowboys fans in the chat. I have no disrespect to y'all. Yeah, the Cowboys do need to run the table to have a chance at a spot. You do know they play the

Bengals Monday night, right? In Jerry's world, right? Okay. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure you understand what they got coming up. Y'all defense. Y'all defense is terrible. Y'all might do something. Y'all defense. Y'all defense is terrible. Y'all might do something.

Y'all better be able to block. Can y'all block the front? Huh? Can y'all block the front? Oh, yeah. We're going to be fine. You know, Joe, Joe get the ball out of his hands quick anyway.

As a matter of fact, we're going to establish the run first. Get them boys, get the front tied up there. Michael Parsons is going to be frustrated. You know, he's going to get mad because the ball's going to be coming out. It's gone. Hold on. Cowboy fans, what are y'all talking about? Y'all going to win the division.

Y'all two and one. Do y'all understand the Eagles record? They're trying to get a reaction out of y'all. Don't fall for that. Ocho, this is the delusion. This is why Jerry's how he is. Because he knows his fans are gullible. They're delude.

They're delude. They're going to believe anything that he sells them. And it serves them right. I'll be glad when it's like three weeks, when they get put out of their misery, and then what are they going to say? Wait until next year. And I'll be right here.

Guess what? Nightcap will be right here next year in 25, 26, 27. Yeah. And y'all still ain't going nowhere. But look, like I said, Ocho, you can only beat who's on your schedule. Yeah. Hey, like I said, we've seen the Cowboys lose games like this before. Yes, sir.

They won today. Give them credit for that. I thought they ran the ball extremely well. The defense got after Drew Locke. Made it very, very tough. I mean, think about Ocho. They ran the ball 21 times for 116 yards.

That's great. That's on five yards of carry. Yeah, that's enough to beat the Giants. Let's keep it. I'm saying the Giants rush for 21 for 116. Okay, okay. I'm saying the Giants rush for 21 for 116. No, okay, okay. I'm saying, is it Dowdell?

Did I say his last name? No, no, no. I'm saying, no, the Cowboys rush 32 for 122. The Giants rush 21 for 116. But what about putting it in the air? But here's the thing, though, Ocho. You gave up a scooping score. I mean, you gave up a pick six and you gave up in another fumble

so there you go right there that's the game basically played him to a standstill on offense but when you turn the ball over I mean what do you expect to happen you pay double for that you do the last game

of the night Ocho the Packers defeated the Dolphins hey man I'm mad man Ocho what you mad for y'all been terrible y'all been terrible when the weather drops below 30 degrees even before you was born that's what I'm mad about

we ain't played listen even when Dan Marino was there the Dolphins we just do not play well when it comes to cold weather. And most of the time when we make it to the playoffs, when we do have an opportunity to go to the playoffs, we always have to go somewhere where it's cold, whether it be Buffalo. Every time we go to Buffalo in December, what happens? Every time we make it to the playoffs and have to play Buffalo, what happens?

Every time we're in cold weather, I don't know what it is. You don't know what it is. The coldest game y'all have played in Miami is 77 degrees. The other cold game was 50-something in Buffalo. And then all of a sudden, you get into the 20s and you talk about you don't know what happened. This is what's always

been happening. It's been our Achilles. I keep saying our. People in the chat, I'm from Miami. I'm from Liberty City. I was born in Dade County at Jackson Memorial Hospital. So when my team, growing up as a little kid, was the Miami Dolphins, you know, the Margs Brothers, Marino. Anyway, but

I consider myself, I always say we. I don't know what it is about the cold weather and it's been this way. Yes, you do! Okay, I know what it is. I know what you're trying to say. I'm just saying, at what point are we going to get over the hump? Will we perform just as well as we do and it's been this way. Yes, you do. Okay, I know what it is. I know what you're trying to say. I'm just saying, at what point are we going to get over the hunk where we perform just as well as we do when it's hot and the goddamn cold? When you get over the hunk?

I don't know, man. When you going to learn how to drive? When you learn how to drive? I don't know what you want to say. You just got to do it, Ochoa. You just got to do it. Can I drive as efficient as I can in the heat? I got to do it in the snow. That's the question.

Because it's a different type of driving in snowy conditions than it is in the summertime. You don't drive the same in Georgia as you do in Colorado, as you do in New York, as you do in Baltimore, as you do in upstate New York or Michigan or Philadelphia. You don't. Well, you know, when it comes to playing football, it ain't no goddamn different. I done played in the cold. I done played in the cold.

I know what you're doing. Cincinnati is cold, Ocho. It's still the same game, huh? It's still the same game? It's the same thing when Cincinnati played that cold game back in the early 80s and they got San Diego and the temperature went to 59 degrees. One team is used to playing in cold weather. Ocho, y'all practicing cold

weather. Yeah. I'm not breaking news to anybody. There is a difference. That ball is harder. It feels like a brick. Normally, the wind is blowing. So now all of a sudden the ball playing tricks on you. Yeah. Well, hell, the ball wasn't playing tricks on the Packers.

Cause the Packers practice in that. So how you, how do you get cold? I want you to tell me this. How do you get cold weather in Miami? tell me this how do you get cold weather in Miami so you can practice in 20 degrees you can't it's impossible it's impossible to emulate it it's impossible

because let me ask you a question I don't know how y'all used to do it but when they had turf fields we would go inside the dome and practice on turf so we get used because you run different on turf than you do grass yeah I know yeah on turf so we get used because you run different on turf than you do grass. Grass, yeah. I know, yeah. And on turf

you much got damn faster too. I don't know about all that. I know my knees hurt, my hips hurt and my back hurt from running that hard and yeah. Hold on, what about falling? Yeah, but it was concrete. It ain't like the stuff

the field turf they got now that was concrete with a layer of carpet on it man playing in the old vet Cincinnati was terrible too Kansas City was terrible too playing in the old Astrodome was awful also

like I said there was no field turf. When I first, everything, you know, they had artificial turf. Kansas City, Cincinnati, the Astrodome, the vet was the worst. That was the worst stadium. Every year, it was voted the worst

stadium. I'm trying to think. I think Soldier Field had turf early worst stadium. I'm trying to think. I think Soldier Field had turf early on and they went to grass later, if I'm not mistaken.

But Elcho, they're just going to have to find a way to get past that. They're going to have to. Tool was 37-46, 365, two touchdowns. Really got lucky on one. That ball popped up. You know, normally, that ball popped up like that.

Yeah, he hit John Newt. Man, McKinney got a great jump on the ball. But you know, normally, that ball popped up like that, don't you? It's a pick. But give Tyreek credit. He followed through, kept his head in the game.

I mean, what'd they have? Almost 400 yards of offense. Yeah. I don't know how much I take of that, Ocho, because they had to throw. They're throwing the whole game. They're behind, for the most part, by three scores the entire night. Right.

So, but they've got to find a way, Ocho. They've got to start faster in these cold games. Because, you know, like when you to find a way, Ocho. They've got to start faster in these cold games because, you know, like when you, it's psychological, Ocho. Right, right. You go in a cold weather game and all of a sudden you find yourself down, Ocho. You're down two scores.

You're down three scores. And it get colder. You think the muff punt. Yeah. They recover. Already in territory. They score. So they go up and you put yourself behind the eight ball.

You put yourself behind the eight ball and now you're playing from behind right away. Not giving yourself a chance against a really good team. A very good Green Bay Packers team. That don't make it no easier.

Yeah. John New Smith has put together his last month has been really, really impressive. He's had a couple of hundred yard games. They get involved. He's scored two times. They get involved. Yeah.

Yeah. I always thought he was good. You know, they kind of used him as a blocker when he was in Tennessee. And then I think he went to New England. And Tom Brady wasn't there. So they don't know how to use the tight end like Brady knew how to use the tight end. But again,

Jordan Love was sensational throwing the ball. 21 of 28, 274, two touchdowns. Kraft was involved. Watson, Reed, he didn't have very many targets. I mean, he had six three catches, 24 yards, two touchdowns.

But, you know, one thing about the Pack, they got a bunch of young, good, wild receivers, man. Young boys, man. You know who they remind you of? You know who they, Green Bay, draft the receiver? Remind you of the Steelers. You remember the Steelers had that run, and they still do.

Drafting receivers. Right. You know, you had Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders. You have Mike Wallace. Yes. Yes. All those guys. You know, you had Hans Hines.

You had Randall Lail. And you had Fleck. And you had Antonio Holmes. It's just like a pipeline. Line receivers. You know what's so funny? The Packers receivers so young, I call it, they like a fraternity. It's like they still in college.

A bunch of college boys just happen to be playing in the NFL on the same goddamn team. That's how young them boys, that's what they remind me of. A bunch of frat boys playing receiver for the Packers. Yep. But the Dolphins, O the dolphins on your they really like i said and that's the thing that concerned me and that's why i can't take them serious because they're not gonna have home field and you're gonna have to go someplace it's cold in kansas city in january oh yeah cold in buffalo in january oh yeah it's cold in baltimore in january it's cold in pittsburgh in january so any possible

place that they can be if cincinnati is cincinnati i mean whatever the case may be it's cold in Baltimore in January. It's cold in Pittsburgh in January. So any possible place that they can be, if Cincinnati, I mean, whatever the case may be, it's cold in the places that they could possibly have to go. Have to play, yeah. And so that's what's concerning. That's what's really concerning to me. Denver, if Denver, you know, Denver's looking like they could possibly be a wild card,

it gets cold in Denver, trust me. I played 12 years there. In January, it's cold as hell. Yeah. And so that's the thing, Ocho. That's why it's hard for me to take them serious when people say, can they be a contender?

Right. Yeah. If they had Kansas City's record, or Buffalo's record, with a chance to get home field throughout the playoffs, but having to go on the road, if you know there's a reason why they've only, you know. And I think probably when they went to the Super Bowl back in the 70s, they probably had home field and it forced Pittsburgh

or one of the other AFC teams, maybe whomever they faced, you had to come there. But all I know is that since I've been old enough to watch the Dolphins play, anytime they had to go to Buffalo or they had to go to a cold weather Denver or cold weather Kansas City, they ain't coming out there with no victory.

Oh, I remember. You ain't got to tell. I remember watching as a kid it was the same way yeah so damn look I think the Cowboys gonna rate

okay now I'm gonna say that I think about it that was a good slate of games today I mean about it. That was a good slate of games today. I mean, the Giants and the Cowboys ain't no good slate of games. Don't stop. Okay, maybe not the Cowboys and Giants, but I enjoyed the Packers game, obviously, on the end of the Packers and the Cheeseheads because the way they looked.

But that goddamn Bears and Lions game, that was exciting. I thought the Lions was getting ready to run away with it for a minute opportunity to run away and really extend that lead in that second quarter but after halftime the Bears made it interesting they did I think the thing that really hurt them they looked

like they was about to go put seven or worst case scenario three on the board when Gibbs fumbled now now all of a sudden it's a 23 or worst case scenario, three on the board when Gibbs fumbled. Yeah. Now, how different? It would have been over right, yeah. Now, all of a sudden, it's a 23-3 ball game. Bingo.

But give the Bears, what I liked about the Bears, they came out of the half hole choke, and they needed a touchdown in the worst way. They needed that. Yeah. Because if they don't get a touchdown there, Detroit gets the ball, Detroit goes down, they got a touchdown.

And so now, you're already behind, and you had the ball for six, seven minutes, and you didn't have anything to show for it. The Bears showed me some resiliency, but that bonehead played by the coach? Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

That's an unforgivable, Ocho. Because he's had too many of them. He's had too many of them, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Because he's had too many of them. He's had too many of them, Ocho. Yeah. Deebo Samuel responds to the idea that Kyle Shanahan should be on the hot seat. Super Bowl,

NFC Championship, year after that, NFC Championship again, last year's Super Bowl. Why are you saying he's on the hot seat? He doesn't understand how the business works.

But just hearing the fact that Shanahan is even on the hot seat, we talk about one that's going to be sought after from every other team. I wish you would let someone like Shanahan go and allow his staff and that offense to go somewhere else, especially go somewhere else that has a quarterback, have a decent

quarterback at that, then he's going to build the same exact thing with that same exact offense. Didn't he just sign an offense. Didn't he just sign the extension? Yeah. Didn't he just sign the extension last year?

Well, in this business, you know when something like this comes out, you know it's coming from inside the house, right? You hear me? The call is coming from inside the house

when stuff like this comes out. How many years was it? Because he had like a year left on the contract. So he signed a five-year extension because he had like a six-year, a six or seven-year deal to begin with. Yeah. Man, you know how this NFL is.

So this. So, yeah. What did you make it, 8 now a year because he had a contract that was like 6 years 42 million oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah right rightfully so though 14 a year

yeah right right you do realize you do realize Ocho like when you get rid of the head coach his whole staff he ain't got guys on one-year deals. Yeah. He signed through 2027. Right.

25, 26, 27. So that's three years. That's $42 million. I don't think he's on the hot seat. Considering the man just came off the Super Bowl? Oh, I know. But you know how fickle the NFL is. You know how fickle all people are.

That's not the York family. They don't operate like that. But then it wouldn't be out. Something like this wouldn't even leak. You hear me? Where there's smoke, there's fire. Stuff like this comes from inside the house. Always.

Well, it ain't coming from John Lynch because John Lynch got the job because of Kyle Shanahan. So who is it? Jed York? Ain't no telling. Jed York? Ain't no telling.

Hey, well, good luck with that one. He'd be unemployed all of like one hour. Shoot, one hour? 30 minutes? 30 minutes, is that? Yeah. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.

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Is NIL headed to a dangerous territory? Larry Ellison is the second most wealthiest man in the world behind Elon Musk. Yeah. I mean, no, he's not headed to dangerous territory. Listen, you got to evolve. You got to evolve with the times. Listen, these are the times that we're in right now, similar to that of the NFL. It's become a business.

It's just become a business now at the collegiate level. A time where before, you remember college players on? They were having to steal just to eat. They were having to steal just to put clothes on your back. Now they have an opportunity as young men to earn a living, especially those that might not make it to the next level, for those that might not

make it to the next level. That that might not make it to the next level. And that's, that's all it comes down to. That's all. How many, how many, how many, how many,

um, universities got a Larry Ellison as a booster? I mean, not, not very many, not very many, but that's not, that's not,

he's the second, none of them, none of them got Larry Ellison. Yeah. But if that, if that's the case and everybody, they might want to go to Michigan, but that's not,iest man in the world. So ain't none of them got a Larry Ellison. Yeah, but if that's the case, then everybody might want to go to Michigan. But that's not the case. NIL is even the playing field for all schools. But what happened?

They were paying players too. But the teams that had the most money, what did they keep up end up doing? Getting the best players. Thank you. So now, whoever has the most money, who's going to get the best player? So guess what? You're going to flip it again. You're going to be right back to square one, what you said you didn't want to

be, Ocho. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's going to work like that. Even with someone like Larry Ellison that's a part of Michigan, I still don't think Michigan is a place where people are going to go, you know what? I'm going to Michigan because Larry Ellison is going to pay me. No. No.

Ocho, what kid is going to turn down 12? This was 12. It might be 20. Every kid coming out ain't going to be worthy of no 12. So we can stop right there. Here's the thing. Come on now.

Every kid ain't going to be a five star or one of the most sought after players in college. Right. Right. Yeah. Listen. Dime a dozen now. Dime a dozen. right right yeah listen it's dime a dozen dime a dozen

every so often a quarterback that's special like that to be able to command and warrant that kind of money is gonna come they not they not falling out

of the trees like that they gonna end up I understand what you mean because now he got a 12 million and he got a marketing deal oh yeah most definitely.

Get everything you can, boy. Get everything. I ain't got no problem with it. Yeah. They're going to have to, they're going to have to, listen, you're going to have to put

parameters on it because you know when you don't put guardrails on something, it goes over the rails, it goes off the cliff. I don't like the parameters. You got to.

Why? Because you can't have it like the Wild Wild West. It has to be organized. It has to be regulated. But why? We don't regulate the universities and how much they're able to make off the players. We don't regulate them doing that.

Now the players have opportunity to make money off their likeness. Now we want to regulate it. No. Ocho, it's the same thing with alcohol. What happened with marijuana? When they found out a way to tax it what did they do ocho they legalized it thank you see but they had to be they had to be regulations no it didn't have to be like they regulated when they found a way they could

monetize off of it so wait a minute listen to Listen to me. Stay with me real quick now. There was a time where the players got nothing and the only person that monetized off the players likeness was universities. Now the players are making the money and not having to give anything to the universities.

Now we want to regulate it so the universities can monetize again stop saying that Ocho top players always got money oh I know what you mean okay okay you're right

you're right I think what's going to happen is that Congress is going to intervene and they're going to say because you know somebody's going to get mad because eventually somebody's going to happen is that Congress is going to intervene and they're going to say because you know somebody's going to get mad because eventually somebody's going to get mad because they lost somebody and it's going to be somebody powerful

that has some that has some pool and then guess what Ocho because a lot of times how they look the player that's making this money how they look oh I got you. You know what's coming.

I got you. You know what's coming. I got you. Hey, all I know is, hey, I was going here, Ocho. This other school over here got $6 million from me. Do you know what $6 million, do you know what $12 million?

This kid here, $12 million might be great for this kid. Hey, and he got a marketing deal? I will live on campus. I will live on campus as long as I could. Because I know my brother went to the league, Ocho. He's like, man, you want to live off campus? I sure do not.

So Battlestate provide room and board for free. I ain't trying to pay no $500, $600. Boy, that's money board for free. Yeah. I ain't trying to pay no $500, $600. Boy, that's money in my pocket. Right. I'm going to go eat in the cafeteria, take my ass in the cafeteria, eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I'm going to shower. I'm going to stay in the dorm with the rest of the team. Right. And save my money. That's what I would do, too. Stay right there in that dorm, eat that dorm food. It ain't all that bad. Hey, then I go off every campus every once in a while,

get me a nice little meal. But, oh, man, please. I'm going to leave there with six and a half. I'm going to leave in the half with six and a half, seven million. In my pocket, yep. For sure. Absolutely. I like it.

But the regulations are going to come. We talking about travel gear. Oh, that's old. Coach Prime goes off on Travis Hunter's snub for the Jim Thorpe Award. Time blasted the fact that Travis Hunter

not selected as a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award saying the omission was idiotic and devalued the integrity of the award. How is Travis snubbed by the Thorpe Award? You can have my award.

You can have mine back. Matter of fact, I'm going to give it mine. I ain't using it. Just sitting up there collecting dust. So Travis can have my Thorpe Award because if it ain't the most idiotic thing in college football, if he's not a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award and he is,

I would say arguably, but I don't think I'm really arguing about the young man being the best defensive back in college football. It just looks bad, Ocho. The kid win the Heisman, the Heisman trophy. He's a defensive back. He's also a receiver. And you mean to tell me he's not one of the best three DBs in the country?

We already know he is. Actually, we know he's the best DB. And that's why Prime planted that seed maybe two or three weeks ago when he was in front of the media and understanding how they were going to play games. How they're going to play games based on how they feel about him, allowing their disdain and disgust for him personally

to affect the success of the players on the team that are deserving of the accolades and what they've done this year in being the best player offensively and defensively on the field. He's already said it. So again, everything is coming to a head that he knew they were going to do.

He knew they were going to do this. It doesn't make sense to me. Now he's nominated as one of the best defensive, I think it's the Nagurski Award, which is the best college defensive player. But not the best, so

he's one of the best college defensive, isn't DB a defensive player? I thought, I could be wrong, but I thought DB was on the defensive side of the football. And because we've seen DB's win defensive player of the year. We saw Stephon Gilmore, Prime won it. Rod Woodson won it.

Who else won it? I think Charles Woodson won it. Rod Woodson won it. So we've seen DBs win defensive player of the year, which means they were the best defensive player that year. Okay, so you mean to tell me this man could possibly win the Heisman? He's a finalist for the Nagurski

Award, but he's not a finalist for the Thorpe Award? They don't. They make their own rules. When you're in positions of power like that and you're able to control the narrative, this is the type of stuff they pull. This is the type of stuff they're able to control the narrative, this is the type of stuff they pull.

This is the type of stuff they're able to pull. I mean, come on, Ojo. I mean, you probably... Did Charles Wilson win the Thorpe Award? He probably did. Did Woody win the Thorpe Award? Because he won the Heisman. I'm sure he did. Yeah, because he was the best defensive player that year.

Yeah. Funny. I mean, the guy got... Funny player that year. Yeah. Funny. I mean, the guy got... Funny how that works. Yeah. So... I don't know. It just seems it doesn't make sense to me

that a guy could possibly win the Heisman and he plays defensive back, but he's not one of the best defensive back. He could win possibly the best defensive player of the year, but he's not the best DB. So how did, I'm trying to figure out how did

Miles Garrett win defensive player of the year, but he's not one of the best defensive linemen. They make up the rules as they go. I was like, damn. They do what they want to do. Clearly, they're making up the rules as they go. Ocho, Wallet Hub

released the latest most sinful cities in America. Okay. Oh, man. How y'all do this to me? Ocho. Number one, Las Vegas. Number two. Well, Las Vegas is Sin City. So you should already know that. What goes in

Vegas stays in Vegas. Houston. What's number two? Los Angeles. Okay. Number three, Atlanta. But Atlanta's a jungle, boy. That's black Hollywood. Atlanta's a jungle.

You got Philly, Denver, Colorado. Why all these places that I live? Mm. But you got a lot. And y'all want, oh, joke. And they want to know why I am how I am. Right, right. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I am whatever you say I am. If I wasn't, why would I say I am. Right, right. Like, you know what I'm saying? I am whatever you say I am. If I wasn't, why would I say I am? They tainted me. Phoenix, Arizona, Miami, Florida, yep. Miami, Ocho, that's your home. But I don't go outside, so you got nothing to worry about. Dallas, Texas,

and St. Louis, Missouri. I don't know what's kicking off in St. Louis. Shoot. First of all, In St. Louis, Missouri. I don't know what's kicking off in St. Louis. True. Ain't nobody doing no... First of all, the arch ain't the Eiffel Tower. Ain't nobody kissing under the arch. I don't know what y'all thinking.

Chad, what y'all think about that, man? I like the list, but I wouldn't have Vegas as number one. I would have Houston is number one i would have houston as number one you just said vegas is known as sin city yeah they've had somebody's been known as sin city listen it's different though vegas has been sin city for years it's been years but houston and atlanta is a different world now we done been to Houston. Now, I don't go to Houston often. I done been there maybe four times in my life. I've been to Atlanta maybe five.

I don't frequent those places often because I understand that's the devil's playground. And one thing about the devil, as much as I love God, it don't take much to backslide when you're in the wrong situation. Okay? I know my limits. I understand my limits. So I keep myself out of areas where I can get myself in trouble yes that's Ocho why you think I stay inside

plug it up yes like Lenny's will say every man got to know his limitations everybody got a vice Like Clint Eastwood said, every man got to know his limitations. Everybody got a vice. Mine is the opposite of nice. Can you see me?

Yeah. It's called sight. I can't see you though. Hold on. My computer. Hold on. Oh, see you though. Hold on. My computer. Hold on. Oh, there you go. You know, I can see you now.

Yeah, I saw you all along. And when I plugged it up, it went to the loading screen. Yeah, it's a good topic right here. You know, them cities ain't nothing to play with, man. You know when you get old as you get older you know you understand your limits you understand what you can and what you can't do and you don't put yourself in certain situations that that can hurt you you know you have to make a decision now i've been working on my discipline i've been working on my discipline real well now i'm not saying i'm the best i walk with christ but i know if i walk through the mud i might come dirty. So I do my best to stay out the mud.

You hear me? Yeah. You know, I know it might be raining. I know it might be raining. So I don't take my umbrella. I just stay inside the house because I don't want to get wet. You with me? I'm with you.

Are you picking up what I'm putting down? Yes, I do. Okay, come on now. Yeah, I mean, hey. Hey, listen, I'm not the best in the world. You ain't wrong when you're right. Listen, I'm not the best in the world. You ain't wrong when you're right. Listen, I'm not the best in the world. I'm not perfect.

I know it's Ten Commandments. Ain't it Ten Commandments? Mm-hmm. I might not got all ten right, but eight of them, I ate of them, they're going to be beautiful. Mm-hmm. So to make sure I'm fucking with them. It all depends what those other two are.

Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. are. Hey, listen. Hey, I had to preach. I had to preach to one over here, you know, who's on the... Come on now, I'm human. I'm human. One of the greater things that you will always love about me is the good will always outweigh the bad.

Before you make any rational decisions like you've made before, you know, I want you to always remember that. The good always outweighs the bad, and nothing is better than a trying man. Well, you know, I tell you what we do. Me and you are going to move to Houston. I'm going to keep. Well, you know, I tell what we do. Me and you gonna move to Houston. I'm gonna keep an eye on you. You keep an eye on me.

Nah. Nah. That's a no-go for me. I was talking to my daughter today. I was like, I'm like, baby, what you think about moving? She's like, daddy. Mm-mm.

I don't want no part of that. I'm like, baby, what you think about Moody? She's like, daddy. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I don't want no part of that. Listen, you know what I do like about Houston, though? I'm not going to sit here and lie to you. I like the move. I like the idea. I like the thought. I'm thinking about how much house you get in Houston. You get a bang for your buck. Oh.

Oh, you talk about destruction. I thought you were talk about another type of brick house oh my bad I misunderstood you I misunderstood you my bad my bad Ocho you talk about a physical you talk about a building a structure okay my bad okay okay

I just misunderstood you we ought to say okay now I see what you putting down okay because for a second I was like okay let me rewind down. Okay. Because for a second, I was like, okay, let me rewind. I'm going to pause here for a second, rewind this, and now I'm going to hit play. Now I get what you're saying. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that. You right, Ocho. Yeah, man. Sometimes you just have to leave well enough alone. Yeah. You got to. Sometimes you just have to admire things from a distance right i like that man i see cars like man that's a really nice car i just admire from a distance i'm like my man this you like yeah you like i say i love it

sometimes you just hey you just admire from the like damn yeah but hey houston houston atlanta listen houston in atlanta is like going by the car lot right going by the car you can see it and you know it look nice and you can enjoy it using your visuals and your peripheral vision yeah i don't need to go in there test drive now the younger me, I'm going to pull over. And I'm going to talk to the owner. Yeah. Hey, what type of financing

can I get? Because I got good credit. Is it zero down? Zero down and zero interest? Man, I don't be A. A, hey. Hey, man. Damn.

Every time we mention Houston, I'm like, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Absolutely not. Jordan, like, I ain't moving. I done moved enough. Jordan said I done moved three times in the last year. Jordan said I ain't moving. I done moved enough. George said I done moved three times in this side of the year. George said I ain't moving no more. Let's see.

If y'all move again, y'all on y'all. Ocho. Yeah. We don't know if this is true, but this is what we reported. A woman left with a $20,000 hospital bill after her husband refused to acknowledge her on his insurance after she refused to name the son Junior. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Bring that to me one more time. I guess she was supposed to name the son Junior. He was expecting her to name the son Junior, but because she didn't, he removed her from his insurance and so now she has a $20,000 insurance bill. I don't even blame him. What you mean

you don't blame him? I don't even blame him. Now you having my first son, you having my child, you having my boy and my lineage, my family lineage on my first child, he's not a junior. Like, what are you doing? You ain't got no Chad Jr.

Oh, Chad Jr. Arizona State. Remember? Oh, OK. Yes. Yeah. Come on now. Oh, yeah. You know, and just come on. That just that's that goes without saying. Matter of fact, the wife of the missus in this scenario, she should want that for her son. But no. What she wants to do with her way and what she envisions. That's what's right. That's about doing what's right.

The man you're having a child from. Allowing him to have his junior. Do I look like a junior? You? Yeah. the man you're having a child from. Allowing him to have his junior. That ain't asking much. Do I look like a junior? You? Yeah. My daddy wanted to be a junior so bad. My mama say, not this one.

No? Hell no. My mama ain't play that. My mama, man, look here. My mom, man, my mom, she got too much of my granddad and her, my mom ran and my mom did.

She named all of us. Y'all here have no say. Not one name. He picked out. Right. So, so here it is. Right.

Cheryl Sterling and Shannon. That's it. That's it. That. Shara, Sterling, and Shannon. That's it. There it is. That's it. That's it. And I look exactly like my dad. I'm talking about the only difference is my dad had a pro. Yay.

Hey, you should bring your pro out. Man, you crazy. Man, my grandfather rolled over in his grave. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I mean, this is I mean, people, they're like, huh? I wouldn't even know how I wouldn't even know how my look if my hair were to grow. Yeah.

Hey, Chet, somebody make a do it AI. Somebody do AI for the program. I mean at Baltimore the longest I ever went without a haircut I went

October let's see October November December January I went like four months without getting a haircut

why? because y'all was losing? we were losing I knew it I knew it I knew you was gonna say that we started losing and then

the barber came. I brought my barber up from Atlanta. So he started cutting my hair. But we lost. I was like, nah, you can't come back. I said, you come back. I mean, I let him come back because he was from Harrisburg, which is like 40 miles from Baltimore.

And so I would let him come up. I get him to rent a car. He was like, hey, you need? Hey, nope, I get him a rental car. He, Hey, you need, you know, I want no cut. He bring his clippers just in case. Right.

He tried it. He drive to Hasburg. He come back for the game, drive to the airport. That was it. So I went from like middle of October all the way to the, uh, uh, end of January before I got a haircut.

Nah, I'm, I'm very superstitious. I like, Oh no, nah, nah that. Oh, no. Nah. Nah. My grandfather, no. My grandfather ain't play that. He ain't. The long hair. My grandfather had a part. Me and my brother had parts.

No. Alright. Alright, Ocho. Get a Boosie fade. No. This is what I got. I got a look, but you know, I got to get a cut tomorrow. I got to call the guy. He said, can he cut me out gotta call the guy tomorrow cause you know what's tomorrow Friday I know but where you going

I ain't going nowhere go to hell if I don't start praying more where you getting a haircut for if you ain't going nowhere damn I can't get no haircut I mean you getting a haircut just to get a haircut for no reason and you ain't got nowhere to go no I mean I normally get a haircut just to get a haircut for no reason and you don't got nowhere to go? No. Oh.

I mean, I normally get a haircut twice a week. Damn. Yeah. Your shit grow fast. It does. But you know, I like to look presentable. For who? You never know.

I might move. I might all of a sudden. I might move to Houston. Don't let y'all know. I might be doing might all of a sudden I might move to Houston don't let y'all know I might be doing the show remote but listen if you move to Houston if you move to Houston I move to Houston too you move to Houston I move to Houston too you ain't moving to Houston

I'm not moving I'm not moving to Houston I ain't moving either then I know Shannon I know me I'm not moving. Okay. I'm not moving to Houston. I ain't moving either then. I understand. Don't joke. I know Shannon. I know me. I know me better than anybody. Right, right, right, right.

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Q and A. Hey, who played tomorrow? Who played tomorrow? Oh, the Ravens played Philly's the big game. Tomorrow? I mean, not tomorrow uh Kansas City play the Raiders Raiders okay but I thought I'm thinking today Saturday okay um uh Black Black Friday game if the uh Raiders go to the Chiefs hey hold on hold on speaking of Black Friday you going shopping tomorrow it starts it starts telling my shell in my shop it starts it starts my shop it starts it starts this morning right or am I tripping

I got it wrong Black Friday today Thursday I'm saying it start five in the morning today it might start at midnight yeah I think I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna go ahead yeah if you can shop on 84.com I mean we got Black Friday sales oh yeah yeah hey make sure y'all go on

84.com man get what man. Get what you need. Get what you need. Yeah. I'm going to Target after this then. Colorado plays tomorrow? Colorado plays Oklahoma State tomorrow. On a Friday? Yeah.

Okay, I like that. They normally would play Nebraska. That used to be the game. Colorado-Nebraska. Right. The day after Thanksgiving. Okay, okay, okay okay okay okay we got we got we got some good games there

yeah they do we do we do I mean the Kansas City game but I think that's an early game what time that game come on three Kansas City okay yeah oh okay damn that's hurt yeah oh you would know what time yet

after the Colorado game 9 a.m damn who playing 9 a.m Colorado playing 9 a.m West Coast time which would be 11 a.m their time Coast time, which will be 11 a.m. their time. Okay, okay, okay. So for me, what time

is it? No, 10. 10. Because they're mountain. They're mountain. Yeah. So that's 12 o'clock here. Okay, 5. We're on at 5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern.

Okay. All right, Ochoa, it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. We already did it? Yeah. We're running again. Felix Speaks said, thanks, Nightcap. This is amazing for these athletes to commit on nightcap let's go on canocho yes and thank you coach prime for making this happen we appreciate that

anytime we can assist we greatly greatly appreciate that thank you to all the young men that uh made their announcement here on nightcap we We appreciate that. We support you, and we'll be following you down the road. Cats, whatever your name is. We 4 for 4 like Wendy's meal. I'm taking he's a Colorado fan. Yes, yes. Josh Gates, how do you like the new Bears play caller? Caleb has been playing better.

He has. But sometimes you can't outplay bad coaching. That's a good one. If you do outplay bad coaching, that means you have to go off script from what you're being told to do. He's making some throws. Guys are making plays

for him. Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen ran a whip Zorro. Hey, that shit was beautiful, huh? First of all, they need to hang that in the LeVore. Huh? They need to hang that in the LeVore. LeVore. Whatever the museum is called.

The Louvre. It's the Louvre. That shit was beautiful. Yes. But here's the thing, Ocho. Unless pressure gets there, there's no way you can defend that. Yeah. Because, okay, if you're on the whip, and now once he gives you the Zorro like he's going back out, the thing to Ocho unless pressure gets there there's no way you can defend that because okay if you're on the whip and now once he gives you the zone rule like he's going back out you gotta go

because you don't want him to option away from you now you bite and now he takes off again and they got him dead they got him in man coverage they run somebody through the zone to take the linebacker with him and now it's one on one and the guy's already outside so he's outside you run the whip you you pause it you fake like you got to go back out he hesitates and now you take off

every time that's it that's a route that's gonna win 10 out of 10 10 out of 10 i'll give a damn who the db is unless pressure gets there you're not stopping that ride. Brian is saying, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Let's go my lines. We had about four of our five defensive players leave game due to early injuries. Tough next two games also. What a terrible first half challenge for the Bears, plus the refs were terrible today. 11-1.

Yeah, you guys had a couple of linebackers. I think Campbell ended up leaving the game. One of your linebackers, your starting linebacker, is already out of the game. And that secondary, man, that secondary was getting killed. Yeah. Who did?

Oh, okay. Yeah, you put it back up in there. Sometimes you have to overcome that sometimes you have to overcome uh when calls don't go your way um you know you're not having the best outing you just have to find a way to win ball games really good teams can find a way to win ball games right uhed about the Lions' run of bad luck within the defensive front seven. Dan Campbell said, had the expected response. Let me ask you, does it really matter? Like, who cares?

That's what I go back to. It doesn't matter. Either it is or it isn't. We got to get guys back. We don't get a guy back and worrying about that and moaning about it and B-I-T-C-H-ing about it. It's like, he called, right? It's like, call.

I know whoever's available is available. We're not going to get ready to play. We expect them to hold the line, period. You've got to do your job, and everybody around you is looking for you to do your job. I like the matter of factness. I like it. But, Dan, you and I both know at some point in time,

you keep running out of next guys. Oh yeah. You might get that. You might get away with one or two next guys. Next guy up. You start getting four or five, six, seven next. But I, but I like that mentality because Dan Campbell is not an excuse guy. He doesn't give his guys an excuse because a lot of times, Coach, like,

hey, guys, we got, you know, hey, we look under man. No, we ain't under man. Next man up, baby. Isaiah Lancaster, Uncle Nocho, do you trust Jalen Hurts or Jared Goff if both teams meet in the NFC Championship game? Oh, that's a good one. It all comes down to decision-making.

I've seen Jared Goff throw five interceptions in a game. That's a good one. It all comes down to decision making. I've seen Jared Goff throw five interceptions in a game. I've seen Jalen Hurst throw five interceptions in a game. Saquon Barkley can take some of the pressure off of Goddamn Jalen Hurst so he doesn't have to put the ball in harm's way.

But again, Jameer Gibbs and Montgomery can also take the pressure off of Jerry Goff so he doesn't put the ball in harm's way. A game like that, ain't no telling what's going to happen. The team that makes the fewest mistakes wins that game.

Based on the way the Eagles front has been playing, now, both teams are built front to back. Great offensive line back towards the running back quarterback. Great defensive line moving backwards. Philly.

Great defensive line moving backwards. Offensive line Philly moving backwards. That would be a real, that's a real heavyweight fight. Both teams have outstanding offensive line play. Sewell, Zeitler, Ragnow, Decker, who's out, outstanding. And then you go Dixon and you go Lane Johnson.

You go Maulata. Obviously, you know, you Hurts and Saquon. That's going to be... I don't think... I think everybody thinks that's going to be the matchup that we're going to end up seeing probably in the NFC Championship game. Samuel Griffin said, Happy Thanksgiving, Uncle Ocho. Do you guys have any type of relationship with

John Madden? What was he like behind the scenes? What you see on the screen? I was very fortunate enough before Ocho got... I don't know if Ocho ever... I don't know. you made the all-man team? Of course. I made the all-man team 96,

97, 98, 93. I made it five times. I made it six. But he was great. You know, he was a regular guy, but he was animated behind the scenes, just like he was in front of the camera. Obviously, he loved the game.

He loved talking about the game. He loved getting to know the players. Their personalities is kind of what made them tick. But he was great. I think I like... And when you made the... I mean, he used to have great awards. I mean, people... Honestly, Ocho, people look forward, more forward to

making an all-man team than they did the Pro Bowl. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. He gave... You got a jacket. You got a sweatshirt. I mean, I still have all the... The last sweatshirt I got when I was in Denver, I ended up giving it,

I gave the jacket to, I think I gave the jacket to Byron Chamberlain and I gave the hoodie to House Carswell. So, you know, I had a great relationship with my guys that were in the tight end room. So I gave one the jacket, one the hoodie. And they used to give you trophies. You see like Michael Parsons won that trophy and Derrick Goff, but they used to give you trophies. You see, like Michael Parsons won that

trophy and Derrick Goff, but they used to and them trophies was heavy. Their trophies weighed like 20 pounds. Yeah, they put some effort into it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But he was great behind the scenes.

I've never played, I've never... Nah. We played, I never. Nah. We played. I ain't get to eat the turkey leg because Barry Sanders got to eat the turkey leg that day because he ran all over us. Boy, he was a real deal, boy. We played Detroit on Thanksgiving. That's all I'm going to say. We played in the early 90s when they was on Thanksgiving.

They might lose all their games, but they was going to beat the hell out of somebody on Thanksgiving. And that was us. So, no, I didn't get no turkey legs. Kyle Payne, Uncle Nocho, what were your best college matchups? College? That's a good one. Probably the Valley or Albany State. Fam, you cook,

man. Listen, I didn't even go to fam, but you have to understand my upbringing and being at the Classic since 1984 until I graduated high school. That's all I knew. Then I understood about the other collegiate games that were good, the Ohio States, the Michigans,

the Oregon State, Oregon. But for me, that's what I knew first. At the level, Fami and Bethune-Quickman, that was all I knew. Yeah, I missed those days playing FAM,

the Valley, not FAM, I'm talking about FAM, the Valley,bany state those were probably our you know probably our biggest rivals you know that's what put that work on them though uh may uh mayhem matthew do you think if georgia wins tomorrow they're a lot for the playoffs, even if they lose the SEC title game and have three losses? Yes.

I think Georgia's going. They're taking two SEC teams. Now, it seems like Texas is going to be one of them because if they take care of their business tomorrow, what do you got, Texas A&M? Or do you beat Texas A&M? Texas. Okay, they got Texas A&M.

They win that game, they're going to the SEC. They're going. Right. They're taking two teams from the SEC. Oh yeah, most definitely. Period. Most definitely. They're probably going to take two teams, maybe three from the Big Ten. Can I tell you why? Why? Oh yeah.

Georgia draw. That's why they're like, they're hoping somebody falters so they can get Alabama in there too. But they take it. They take it. Hey, because y'all getting all the other teams. Them teams don't travel like that. Y'all don't travel.

Football king in the South. They're going to travel. Bama going to travel. Texas going to travel. Georgia going to travel. Are we sure Oregon going to travel? Are we sure Bo They're going to travel. Bama going to travel. Texas going to travel. Georgia going to travel. Are we sure Oregon going to travel? Are we sure Boise State going to travel? Are we sure Indiana going to travel?

Are we sure, Ocho? Allen, Ocho, love you guys. Speaking into existence, y'all will be doing play-by-play commentators for NFL games go to Netflix, and we'll be featuring on Madden video game now that that ultra might ultra might want to call games I want no party calling game I don't want that kind of prep yeah I'm calling the game uh when the Chiefs the Chiefs and the

Texans play on the 21st of December if I'm not mistaken so I'm gonna have my first hand uh in the booth you know uh calling the game play-by-. I'd like to thank Peacock and Madden for the opportunity to continue to diversify my portfolio and allow my list of jobs to now reach a staggering number of 879 and 11 jobs, you know, in the season. So I'm grateful, I'm blessed, my cup is running over. And again, I'm thankful for the opportunity. And all of you, make sure you tune in December 21st, Houston, Texas, Kansas City,

Madden, Peacock, your boys in the booth. Make sure you check it out. And I promise you, I'm not going to curse. That concludes this edition of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us Green Bay Packers 30 Miami 17

the Dallas Cowboys 27 the Giants 20 and the Detroit Lions run their record to 11 and 1 with a 23-20 win over the Bears after a snap by Matt who doesn't call a timeout and and with 33 seconds on the clock,

they only run one play, and they don't get in position to kick a field goal, and they end, and that seems to be the thing that overshadowed the entirety of the game. Even Caleb Williams playing sensational in the second half was overshadowed by that situational mishap by the Bears. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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Why do I don't know? Why don't nobody drop? Wait, what drop we got? What drop we got so I can order my shit? I don't know. Don't start me lying, Ocho, because I don't know. I'm just finding out about it right now. I need to drop early so I can order my shit. I don't know. Don't start me lying, Ocho, because I don't know. I'm just finding out about it right now. I need to drop early so I can wear it. Good luck with that, Ocho.

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