Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Dak's contract situation, Kelly Rowland drama

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Dak Prescott's recent comments about his impending contract situation, Kelly Rowland's run-in at Cannes and much much more!02:49 - Dak Prescott doesn't play for money10:28 - Mahomes one Complaint26:05 - Zach Wilson calls trade Bittersweet29:25 - Jalen Phillips Iguana32:29 - Kelly Rowland Video41:28 - Rough Draft Holidays50:52 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Never have, never cared for. What? Damn, please. Hey, I told you I was trying to coach. The reason why I love Sharp so much is that she would play this game for free. I said, Coach, I'm going to need everybody else to play for free, too. Shannon ain't going to be the only one playing for free. If all the other folks playing for free, sign me up.

But I ain't going to be the only one. But this is what Dak said. He said, never have, never cared for it, to be honest with you. Would give it up just to play the game. Ocho, you know, we got to say that. Ocho, hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, listen.

He's the face of the franchise. He had to start on his helmet. He's going to say all the right things. Hey, listen, you know when you first meet a girl? Yeah. You know when you first meet a girl? Yeah. You know when you first meet a girl? I don't even care about no sex. We ain't got to have sex.

Shit. Girl, please. Hey, I'm trying. I'm trying to get you laid down as quick as I possibly can. What? Hey, make me a pillow right quick. She seem sleepy. I'm trying to lay her down real quick.

Hold on. I bet you ain't never did this one. What is it? First date. You know what? You ain't never did this one what the first date you know what you ain't got to drive home you know it's kind of late yeah

you can spend the night and you know what I do I let you have the bed I sleep on the couch I sleep on the couch yeah yeah it's you or no

I love Dak Dak I love Dak girl you look girl you look tired you look tired girl go on go on go on no no hey just put your head right there Girl, you look tired. You look tired. Don't let that happen. Don't let that happen. Quit it.

No, no. Hey, just put your head right there and watch TV. Yeah. Hey, listen, I love back to death. And he's saying all the things he has to say, obviously. He can't say the things he wants to say. Yes. He's doing everything right.

He always has done everything right. He's being a pro's pro. He's being a pro's pro. He's being a pro's pro but at the end of the day, as former players, we know that money matters. It always matters. You ain't playing for free. We love our fans. We love doing this, having

an opportunity just to talk to our fans. You and I, we do nightcap for free. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Who? Okay. Okay. Hey,

the only thing free is salvation. And we done got ministers found a way to charge for that. Ain't nothing free but salvation. And they charge for that now. Oh, Shay don't do,

oh, no. Oh. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yeah, nah. Hey.

Hey, Dak, shut up. Hey, Dak, I know you watching this, boy. I love you, boy. But come on, Dak. Dak-mm. Yeah, nah. Hey. Hey, Dak, shut up. Hey, Dak, I know you're watching this, boy. I love you, boy. But come on, Dak. Dak says, he said, I allow the business people to say what it's worth. What we're supposed to do,

you have a quarterback of my play, a person of my play, leader of my play. I guess you could say for me, it's about controlling what I can control and handling that part, and the rest will take care of itself. Itself, excuse me. I don't really care. And the rest will take care of itself. Excuse me.

I don't really care. I don't really take things personal, Prescott said. Maybe my first deal things were a little different than they are now. One, my age. Two, who I am, where I am in my life. And I guess the fact that the first deal got done. The understanding that this is at this point and I have a lot of decisions in this too. I have a lot to say.

It's about understanding the business is the business. Yeah. Listen, to me, honestly, to me, if I was Dak, I would bet on myself. I would pull a Kirk Cousins like what Kirk Cousins did when he was in with the Commanders. I would play this last year out and hit the market. I would hit the market. And when he hits the market, there are multiple teams that could use Dak Prescott.

He's a great leader of men. He's a great quarterback. Many won't consider him an elite. I like him. And most importantly, if he goes somewhere that has a great supporting cast, we can see a Dak that can reach heights even he didn't think he could. That I think he might be because of the circus where he is.

It could be rough. All the added pressure. Wrong person in front of the camera. Not allowing the coaches to coach, not allowing the players to play, speaking for the players, speaking for the coaches, being somewhere else where you don't have to deal with that, I think it would do him due justice.

Let me ask you a question. If the Cowboys offer Dak five years, $150 million, you think he takes it? $5,000, $150 million? That ain't enough. But money don't matter. That's not enough. Money don't like it. But money don't matter. That's not enough. Money don't matter.

Oh, it didn't matter. I just wanted you to say it. I didn't want to say it. I just wanted you to say it. Okay. If I'm Dak's agent and they offer me $5,000 for $150,000, I'm going to tell Jerry,

don't worry about it. We're going to play this season out. We good. Appreciate it. Well, here's the thing. The thing that he does have. Hey, listen. He got all the leverage, too.

Yeah. They can't franchise him. There's not too many scenarios and not too many chances or opportunities where players have the leverage. Yeah. He got all the leverage. Yeah, because they can't franchise him. If I'm not mistaken, they can't trade him.

No trade clause. And he has no franchise tag. So, it's going to be, they're at his mercy. The question is, do they believe they can go get somebody? I mean, they signed Trey. Check this out.

Trey Lance says his confidence is higher now than it was when he entered the league. He played only eight games, including four starts in San Francisco, traded up to draft him in 2021. Lance will go through the season competing with Cooper Rush for the backup job behind Dak.

My confidence is much higher than what it was when I got into the NFL, for sure. I kind of didn't know what to expect. I think that's probably what most rookies, if not all of them, at one point or another throughout the first year, I feel great where I am, where I'm at. Continue to get better, continue to learn, continue to be a better quarterback. Dak threw 590 passes last season

Lance has thrown 420 passes since high school including none last season in Dallas listen maybe Trey Lance is the future but again like I said I would if I

was Dak I would bet on myself nah they come to you with a number now if they come to you with if they come with you with a Jared Goff type number yeah oh yeah you taking that yeah I ain't playing with you but again I think they work on their own time their own timing as far as

especially in contract negotiations like this because you still have Michael Parsons you have to pay you still have C have Michael Parsons you have to pay. You still have CeeDee Lamb you have to pay. But again, when it comes to quarterback position, you always want to take your quarterback and you want him to know that he is valued and he is a quarterback of the future. So I'm not sure why it's taking so long

because I think if I'm not mistaken, all the other quarterbacks have been taken care of. But I'm sure it's going to happen. It's very soon. Two as well. Yeah, Jared Go golf got his money he penciled down i think he's like 52 53 million burrow is the most he's at 55 i think justin herbert is a little bit under that like 52 53 so all those guys are kind of like the 52 53 mark right um obviously you see pat Mahomes did his number he came in at $45 million

they just gave him some money up front let's just keep this thing together let's see if we can keep Stone Cold let's see if we can keep running back with some of the key players obviously they were not able to keep LeJarius LeJarius Sneed there they did it right

they didn't franchise him they allowed him didn't franchise him. They allowed it. Don't disrespect him. There's certain players you can disrespect with their franchise tag, and there's certain players don't even play like that. Don't even play like that. Mahomes has one complaint about the

Chiefs' 2024 schedule, and it's not playing on Christmas. The Chiefs kick off the first regular season game with a banner ceremony September 5th against the Ravens. From there, they have a Black Friday game, a Christmas Day game, a Saturday game, two Sunday night games, two Monday night games, but it's actually when

their bye week falls that he sees the slight issue. The only thing that I don't like is the early bye. The early bye is always tough, but other than that, I'm just ready to play football. I love his mindset. I really do. The earliest I've ever had a bye, we got to do Christmas,

a Wednesday night game, which would be like a four-day weekend. But at the same time, that week six bye is Texas Tech bye too. So I can't even go see my college team play. So check this out, Ocho. They start the season. Obviously, you win the Super Bowl, you start the season deserving of soul. So you got the Black Friday game,

which is a game after Thanksgiving. You got the Christmas Day game. You got a Saturday game. Two Sunday night games, two Monday night games. Well, my homeboy, everybody want to see you, bro. Yeah, they do. Rightfully so. To whom much is given

much is required and plus the fact the matter is Ocho that Black Friday game we selling that to Amazon well if I'm gonna spend a hundred

hundred and fifty million dollars I need I need box office who's more box office than my homeboy okay Netflix they're streaming

the Christmas Day game I need box office who's more box office than my homeboy. Okay? Netflix, they're streaming the Christmas Day game. I need box office. Who more box office in my homeboy? Yeah. Yeah. And listen, also,

and I hate to bring this up, Travis Kelsey is connected to a young lady that has an entirely different demographic and age group watching those games as well. Well, but don't bring that up on Ochoa, because they're going to get

mad at us. No, I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. And she's made it her business to let people know she will be at these games. Follow her, man. She will be at these games. And what does that do? NFL, follow the money.

Come on, now. It's chess, not checkers. Chess, not checkers. At the end of the the day remember what their bottom line is no matter what they tell you what they say it's all about the money at the end of the day so i'm not i'm not i'm not upset i'm not upset about you know that's tough i mean that's an early bye week because you think about all those games that they're gonna have on black friday on on christmas day Christmas Day, and those Sunday night games. Yeah, the NFL could have did them a solid and put their bye week around week 10, week 11.

Yeah. I mean, our bye weeks when I was there always felt kind of like right in the middle, like week eight, week nine, Ocho. So, you know, I'm good. Yeah. I don't even know. It's so funny. You know what I did on my bye week?

Especially if we had a winning record. My bye week, I didn't take no bye. I go play pickup soccer the whole time. Every year. Now, Ocho, I think they got to give you the whole week off. Mike Shanahan won't give you the whole week off.

Whoa, a whole week? Yeah, they get the whole week off. Where that rule came from? I guess it's in the new CBA. CBA? Hey, that's crazy.

That's crazy. A whole week? Man, we got Mike, you know, we go out there and we might get that's crazy a whole week? man we got my you know we go out there like we might get Thursday

we might get half of day Thursday so Friday Saturday Sunday and then we had to be back Monday to work

and be worked out by noon three days? man look here that ain't no damn bye week. I'm just telling you what we had.

I don't know what the other teams did. I can't speak to that. But I'm telling you what the Broncos had when we were there. Yeah. I remember clearly all my bye weeks. I remember clearly all my bye weeks.

I remember clearly all my bye weeks. And every time we, we, we had practiced Monday. I think we practiced Monday. I think we practiced Tuesday and we'd be off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And we, and we had to be back Monday, man, that whole week I'm in Miami. I never forget. I play soccer at KSP I'm in Miami. I never forget. I play soccer at KSP, Kendall Soccer Park. I play at Urban Soccer 5. At that time,

it was in, in Wynwood. Man, I'm playing soccer the whole week. And then I come back Monday ready and back to football. Mm-mm. My dad wasn't doing that. My dad wasn't doing that. Shannon wasn't doing that and it wasn't no situation

it wasn't no situation where like hey Mike you know such and such got the whole week man please he don't care what nobody else doing hell no hell to the no cause he gonna tell us hey what we trying to do that ain't what they trying to do yeah you can't run your players into the ground

man, please we're so happy getting up noon because that means we can take the flight and it's still two hours but at least you got Friday, Saturday man, you gotta leave Sunday night

you can't chance it I can't chance leaving Friday or Monday morning and be late and the plane, something happen with the plane or you miss a flight. Oh, hell no. Man, Mike, lose your damn mind. Y'all got fined back then?

What? The fine wasn't that much though because I think like a fine might be like say a fine like two thousand dollars if you paid if you paid if you paid a thousand dollars in front of the team he would if you paid a thousand dollars in cash right he would reduce a thousand fly yeah okay okay okay and so it's the fact because here's the fact down there. So somebody, we might not know you was late.

We might not have known you done something. But you coming out there to hand Mike some money, we know you done effed up. So that's kind of what it was, because it's kind of like the team know that you let them down in somewhere. Maybe you was late for a meeting. You missed a meeting. But that walk-off, baby. Like, we had that walk through that walk through at 11 o'clock

man please man they see Mike man man boy you better not be late for that walk through Mike didn't play that and then here's the thing Ocho you know the walk through we're not going full speed but it's a nice speed now it ain't no good

yeah yeah yeah. Man, Ocho Watsi. Let me take a glass of Ocho. Why them dudes start coming out there with Timbs? Come on, man. Come on, Ocho.

Man. Man. They had on Tim. Man, them Jokers coming out there. Hold on. It was cold, right? When it was cold, though. Yeah, but I'm just, Ocho, that's not the point. Them Jokers coming out there, they got the jeans on and then got sweats over the jeans.

Jeans. Oh, Lord have mercy. Man, Mike, hey. Mike called that thing up. He said, y'all ever come out here like that again? Right. I said, see? I knew y'all were going to F it up. I knew it.

I knew it. But they knew how Mike was. Ocho, we got, we were having a practice. This was in 97. Anybody that was on that team, they could tell, Ocho, we got, we were having a practice. This was in 97. Anybody that was on that team, they could tell, Ocho, we were about 30 minutes through from practice. Now, mind you, we're already out there. We've already been out there

about an hour and 15 minutes. Yes, sir. Mike started the whole practice over. The whole practice? The whole practice. And I'm talking about it snowing like a bee. I'm talking about it so cold, Ocho. Look, I don't know what happened. It was a team drill.

And I might have started it. You dropped the ball. I think I dropped the ball. Rod dropped the ball through a swing past the TD. He dropped the ball. Yeah. Man. Mike blew that whistle. Man. Mike blew that whistle.

Man, Mike blew that whistle. Start this dish over. I'm like, okay. So, you know, me, Ocho, you know, I'm like, oh, you know, my bad, fellow, my bad. So, I'm thinking we about to start the period over. Right. This man start stretching and everything over. Bet I want to fight Mike.

Hell nah. Yes. Start your whole mofo practice over. Bro. Oh, no. Look here. When I say Mike ran a tight ship and that foolishness, we didn't have no foolishness. Because, hey, bro, look here.

Don't y'all mess this up. He was like, okay, guys, if we do X, Y, and Z, hey, such and such. Man, look here. Hey, we had to decide we're going to do it. We're going to go out there.

We're going to play. We're going to practice our ass off. Don't y'all mess this up. Yeah. Because we know we had, hey, we were a veteran-led team. Like, Mike let us release the team. We'll fight all you a, we were a veteran led team. Like Mike let us release the team. We'll fight all

you young mofos up in this thing. Don't y'all mess this up. Man, Mike started the whole practice from stretching. I thought we was going to go back to the period, the start of the period. Right, right, right, right. This man done started the whole mofo practice over and we got to go stretch all over again.

I couldn't even be hot because I was so damn cold. Yeah. And that's what Elko. And when I tell people the mindset that you have to have, that I believe you need to have, Mike ain't let nothing skate. Right. Like, you drop a pass and like,

the defense might do something, might blow an assignment and defense also know, Mike, we got it. Mike say, no, if we don't, run that again. Uh-oh. Oh, a drop pass. Oh, that ain't sliding. Oh, no. Hell no. What?

So, Mike was like tom causton and basically he didn't like look mike was very very like his time like time was like the meeting starts at this time with mike when mike walked down them steps don't you walk your ass in behind him right so everybody was we understood when Mike come in that room everybody needs to be in their seat if you're not in there you might as well just go ahead and chalk it up like I said one time I was late

I don't think he would have known I was late it just so happens I was offensive player of the week and when he called my name I didn't come down to get the awards hey I was I was standing out, I was outside the B-room looking at him like, but no, but you might

look, be on time. That was his number one thing. Be on time. Practice started, I mean, meeting started this time, practice started this time, so forth and so on. That was really his only thing, and then he let the veteran players, he let us police the locker room. What was supposed to transpire

because a lot of times, Ocho, we put out fires before he got to Mike. He didn't even know anything about it. And I think that's where veteran leadership comes in at and that's why you can never have a real enough of quality vets. I ain't letting, nah,

nah, nah. Get your ass in the meeting room. Get off the phone. Your problem, you're on the phone too much. That's why you're not playing. Talk about, man, they're messing over me. Nah. I pull the film. I say, see, you messing over us. Right. Get in there.

But we needed that, Ocho. You need, and until like, you be in a situation, Ocho, you don't really know what it takes to win until you in a winning situation. And you can say that's why the 49ers had all that damn success. If you go back and look at the 49ers, you look at when Mike Holman got to the Packers and they started to win consistently. You I guarantee you I can go. I don't really know how the Patriots did things, but I can tell you why they won.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, my time there with the Patriots, I understood why they won within the first week. Mm-hmm. Within the first week. Bill Belichick, he ran a tight ship. Got to.

No one had to explain what the Patriot way was in just the way everyone conducted themselves and that's from the top all the way to the bottom yep from the top all the way to the bottom from the cafeteria to the training room i'm like oh okay now i understand now i get it yeah now obviously 90 of that was also having number 12 and that key centerpiece at the helm of everything but man unbelievable i tell people all the time people ask me well what was it like playing for belichick what was it like being on the patriots i say listen i've never been to the army never been to the military i'm not a navy seal but if i had to take a guess the discipline instructed it takes to be in the armed forces it's what it takes to play for the goddamn patrons.

Yeah. Same, same thing, same concept. And, um, I, I come to understand that the ability check has a,

uh, a background. I think his dad was at the Navy coach at the Naval Academy. And that is why he ran it the way he did. And that's exactly what that environment felt like. And see, that's why it never bothered me. My grandfather was in the military.

So I understood what a structured environment was. Oh, so you was used to it. It didn't bother me. My grandmother, hey, when she said, be up at a certain amount of time, we're going to go pick peas or we're going to hit these fields. Right.

We got to go pick up pecans or whatever the case may be. All right, boys, such and such going to come by tomorrow. Okay. I already know what that means. That man coming by, he going to pick us up atans or whatever the case may be. All right, boys, such and such going to come by tomorrow. Okay. I already know what that means. That man coming by, he going to pick us up at 7 o'clock. That means you get your butt up, you know, wash your face, brush your teeth, be ready

to hit that truck. Right. I understood that. So it was never a problem to me. Coach Reeves, he read Coach Reeves was a iron nose, old school Tom Landry. No bull jive, no BS. You jump off sides in training camp, you run a lap.

Sometimes you make the whole team run. Hey, I can't imagine grown men running no laps, man. You can imagine it. You can imagine it because it happened. I don't know if anybody's in the chat that was on those teams. Coach Reed was, I was with Coach Reed from 90 to 92. Go ask him. Go ask him.

And you heard Ocho? Man, they put you on that Ubi. You ever did the Ubi where you paddle like this here? No, what's that? It's a bike. But if so, if you got like a hamstring issue or something like that that's how you get your cardio okay man he ran me up out of there man doing that uv for 30 minutes 30 minutes man you go all out for a minute you break for a minute all out for a minute you break for a minute

for 30 man please oh chill oh i came up with that thing after a day. I said, I ain't hurt no more. I ain't hurt no more, Ocho. Hell no. Ocho, check this out. Zach Wilson called the trade bittersweet, but grateful for fresh starts. The Jets traded Wilson and a seventh-round pick to the Broncos. Obviously, there's bittersweet

moments in everything, Wilson said of the trade. to the Broncos. Obviously there's bittersweet moments and everything. Wilson said of the trade. I'm grateful for my experience there for experiences there and the guys, I miss the guys out there, everything. But at the same time, a fresh start is good. I'm excited to attack a new challenge. Wilson gets a fresh start. It remains to be seen whether he wins the starting job.

He's vying. He's vying for the Broncos starting job with Jax Stidham, first round draft pick, Bo Nix is also in the competition. Ocho? Hey, Zach Wilson. That's my guy.

You know, I love Zach. I've been rooting for him since he left BYU. Obviously, unfortunate circumstances being in New York, but we all need a fresh start. Sometime you're in a relationship, and when you break up,

you find something better. And I think the situation he's in now is something better. I like Jairus Stidham. He's nice. I love Bo Nix. But the starting quarterback for the Broncos will be Zach Wilson, week one. I'm telling you now, so it's not a surprise to anyone in the chat or the rest of the world that actually sees this clip.

Zach needed a fresh start. He needed a change of scenery, and he got that. And on top of having a change of scenery, he has a quarterback coach, quarterback guru, you would think, and Mr. Sean Payton that did wonders with Drew Brees, and I think he's going to do wonders with Zach Wilson. Okay. And I'm standing on that. All right. Y'all heard it here first. Let's go, Zach.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, this is some Florida shit if I ever seen it. But how the hell did he get in there? That man is bathing in my toilet. And he's not a pet. I don't know where he came from. A little baby going on? It's a grown man. Came from the sewer?

I like that. Boy, Jalen, you might want to get used to that. But you're in Florida now. You're in Florida. Alligators? Alligators? Everywhere. Yeah.

Iguanas? Everywhere. Yeah. Get used to that. Now, I don't know how the alligator, I mean, the iguana went through the sewer system and came up through the toilet. I've seen it happen with snakes because snakes, they crawl and get into everything. Yeah.

But you got to be you got to get you got to get used to that. That's normal. I'm talking about alligators everywhere here, man. Golf courses. Yeah. When you ride, you ride by the

canal. What the hell you expect? Where they going to go? Y'all keep going further and further out into the Everglades, into the marshlands. They gotta go somewhere. Yeah.

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Listen, you have to learn to coexist with them. You gotta learn to coexist with them. Nah,

I don't wanna coexist with them because they end up being I got one of my dogs and then every alligator I see, I'm gonna kill it. Oh, but if you, listen,

if you buy any of the homemade lakes, oh, they got them gators out there now because you got dudes that's in the street that want to own alligators. They get them when they're small and then when they get too big they let them out and let them go.

That's what happened with those iguanas. That's what happened with those snakes. That doesn't have any natural predators. And they get bigger and bigger. And they eat up all the natural, you know, eat up all the raccoons, all the possums. They eat up all the things. So I'm going to try to stay out of Florida.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Matter of fact, you know, I just got my real estate license. So if you want to come down here, you know, I can get a place for you real quick real quick, I put a list up, Southwest Ranch got some nice places, we got some I don't like the gators, I'm going to get all the gators out my man made

late, before I come down there because me and gators don't get along because anything to harm my dog, we don't get along no, no, your dog your dog ain't going to be outside nowhere. They too little. Yeah, my dog be outside.

How you going to let them little dogs outside? You'll lose them. No, they don't. They be in the yard playing. Nah, man. Nah, you can't have them. They too, come on, man. Nah, I got a big one too.

Wait, you got a big dog? Mm-hmm. What kind of dog you got? A Borbo. Wait, you got a big dog? What kind of dog you got? A boar bull. Oh, that's right. You did tell me that. Okay. They big, big as hell.

Like a bull master family. Yeah. Same family. Just a South African master. Yeah. Same family. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you understand? Okay. Do you understand how out of pocket you have to be for Kelly Rowland to have to check you? It's interesting to see how some rushed

off the steps with arm in her face stepping on her dress and some will wait patiently for it. Check a look at this video, Ojo. What the hell is security doing? She stepping all on her dress. She pushing her. Why is she telling... Lady, go on back down.

You done messed it up. Now, nobody want to hear what you got to say. Kelly addressed the situation today. Right. This is what she had to say. The woman knows what happened. I know what happened. And I have a boundary.

And I stand by those boundaries. And that is it. And there were other women that attended that carpet who did not quite look like me. And they didn't get that scolding or pushed off or told to get off. And I stood my ground. She felt like she had to stand hers, but I stood my ground. She felt like she had to stand her as well. But listen, in just her talking and explaining her piece on what happened, I could sense the pain

in her voice. It's embarrassing. Why are you rushing her up the stairs? For what? This is what happens. you and i both walk the red carpet okay they said okay mr sharp okay the whole look hard up down the sharp or they say uh ocho cinco so yeah okay right here right here so i'm standing i'm standing right here i'm getting pictures okay right here yeah can you get right here here. Chin down a little bit.

Right here. Okay, take a few. Go a little further. Right here, right here, right here. All right, Mr. Sharp, Mr. Shannon, Shannon, Shannon, can you turn back? So, you know, you stopping. Right. To make sure everybody wants to get their pictures.

Right, right. And so what happened, if you notice, she's walking up the steps and she turns back around and she waves because clearly somebody said, Kelly, Kelly. They called him the name. Yeah. Want to get another shot of her. And she like, OK, now you got it. You got it. You got to go. Unhand me, woman. You step it on. First of all, you step on the lady train. Yeah. Now, OK, you see the gentleman come down. OK, he's taking over. There's a reason why he's higher up than you so let him take it over from here you're going back down you see you see her she turned around she's waving because somebody probably said kelly kelly one more picture right here right here right here over here they hold up the hand over here right here right here

and the lady is saying you need to move it along. Well, she was moving along until somebody said, Kelly, and said they wanted another picture. So I'm just trying to give people an idea. And I'm not going to the Oscars, I'm saying, but I've been to a couple of events that required, you know, you have to take pictures. And then they said, well, Shannon, Mr. Sharp, would you mind doing an interview with, say, People magazine

or this or that? And you're like, okay, sure. But that seems to me what transpired is that someone called Kelly to take another picture. They want to get another shot of her. And the lady, like, I got a job to do. And so, yeah. Yeah, I hope the young lady, I'm not sure if she has had the opportunity to apologize to her. Obviously, she has a job to do, and I think her job was to keep the carpet going.

Keep it moving. Yeah, so it didn't get congested. But again, she shouldn't have done it. No. I mean, she shouldn't have done it at all. Kelly, we love you. Kelly, man, she shouldn't have done it at all. Kelly, we love you. You know, stand your ground. She stepped on the dress.

And listen, you're lucky she didn't snap. Yeah. You're lucky she didn't snap. Yeah. So she's like, okay, let me build up a professional setting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, be professional. Right, right, right. But, hey, you stepped on the lady.

First of all, you done stepped on the lady's dress. Mm-hmm. Now, boy, just, I mean, because, you know, a lot of those dresses are like, you done stepped on a lady's dress. Mm-hmm. Now, boy, just because a lot of those dresses are like, hey, you done had anything to eat that whole day. You done made sure you gonna be able to fit in that dress.

You looking good. Man, you stepped on that dress. And here she go ruining the moment. Yes. Get your damn hands off me. Get your hands off me. Shut the shit up, you damn. Yeah.

And you know, hey, because you know black people, we turn into betriloquists. When we get upset, we start talking. You know, no mouth moving. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that's how them people, when black people get upset, they get that betriloquist voice. Ain't no lips moving, but they talking through their teeth. But you can hear them, though.

Oh, yeah. You can hear them clear as day. Get your good hands off me. But Kelly, you showed a lot of restraint. And you see, I don't know if this Kelly's PR person or this is her assistant. She told that lady, get your hands off my balls. Listen, she held her composure very well. She held her composure very well.

Watch the lady to the right. Watch this lady. Watch this lady. You see the gentleman come. Watch the lady come back down. Oh, she did step on it. I just saw her. She stepped on it.

She looked down. Don't touch me. Okay. Hey, you know, you know, you know with Black folk now, when we, when we, when we, when we use that finger, you know, Black folk, when we use that finger and point to you, now, right now, you

got one, you got one more time. Now, you already overstepped your boundary. You put your hands on me. Don't put your hands on me. And you hear the thing. It's like, yeah. You see, and they be talking to you. Oh, yes. And they got their hand in the back.

Oh, shoot. Get your hands off me. Kill you again now. See, that's the thing, Ojo. They tell you, oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. But they still got their hand in the small of your back. Yeah.

What Kelly should have did, see, when you see a man do his hand like, they ball that they don't get the point. They put that right there. When they put that right there in your face, leave it alone. Leave it alone. You don't step on that lady's dress by the point. Got her hand all in the way of the picture.

Like she's her man. That's the way your man put his hand in the small of his woman's back. To guide you. To guide you up the stairs. Yeah. Get your ass out the way, man. Peanut head.

Get your hands off her. We don't want to talk to you no more. We don't have enough. You done done enough. Nah, get out of my face. And that's in the south of France. Cannes is in the south of France, right? Matter of fact, I got to go up there.

I got to go there on July 21st. July 21st for the Lions. Your boy won an award. Let me tell you what it is. I won an award so I got to shoot out there. Yo, June 17th. June 16th. It's June 16th, Ocho.

You going? You going? Are you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going? You going? Are you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Are you going to be there? You going to be there? How do you think you getting there?

Hey, well, I'm going with you. We flying private because I'm going on Spirit. I'm taking like three flights. Okay. That's one thing I know about Spirit. They ain't going over there. Who? Oh, yeah. Oh, Who? Oh, yeah.

Oh, no. Oh, yes. Well, I'll be there and back by the time you get over there on Spirit. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. What you wearing? What you mean? Like, what you wearing? We're going to do nightcap. What you mean, what am I wearing?

Are we doing nightcap from France? Yeah. Oh, hell no. That's what I'm talking about. What? Hey, that's what I'm talking about. Let's go. Let's go. I'm saying, the war show, what you wearing?

You wearing a suit? I don't have a decide. I do got a suit I haven't worn in a while. I might break it out. But you know, it's going to be soft. It's going to be hot. So some problems with linen. Okay, you know what? I'm going to wear some linen too then. I'm going to wear black linen.

I wear white linen. White? Are you wearing white for real? Okay. Okay. Okay. You on your Lisa Rae vibe. Lisa Rae staying white. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

You know, I got a couple. You know, I got a couple. We got a couple. I got a couple of bands. I got a 10. You know how it is. Okay, okay, okay. All right, Ocho.

It's time for the segment. Everybody loved Rough Draft last week. It was that we were picking soul food. So here we go again. Now it's time for rough draft. Oh. All right. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

All right, Ocho. Today's draft is holidays. Last week I went first. Now it's your turn to go first. You're up first. Your first holiday, what you going with? My first holiday, and we all know I'm a giver.

I'm a giver. I love to give. Sometimes I'm going to receive an in, but my first holiday, Chad, you know I'm going with Christmas. That's a good one. You know I'm going with Christmas. That's a good one. You know I'm going with Christmas. That's my holiday. That was good one, Ocho. I can't be bad at that. I can't be bad at that. But you know what I'm

going with, Ocho? I'm a surprise. Yes, sir. Talk to me. I know everybody think I'm going with this one. I'm going with Mother's Day. You know what? That's... All them damn kids I got, I should have picked Mother's Day, too. No, no, no. My bad, I got, I should have picked Mother's Day too. My bad. My bad. My bad. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I got another one though. Go ahead. Valentine's Day. Oh, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm going... I'm going with Valentine's Day. Oh, buddy, crock of ass.

Yeah. He got two more cake days. I'm going to Valentine's Day. Oh, cake. Oh, Buddy Crocker ass. Yeah. Cake it. Oh, yeah. He up there cake it. He done got two more cake days on the calendar. That's why they call you Buddy Crocker. No, no. When I think about Christmas, I think about the kids. I think about the kids and putting a smile on their face, you know,

and giving them some of the things that they want because, you know, throughout the year, they don't really ask for them. But Christmas, you know, it get crazy. You look at old Buddy Lee. It get lee crocker betty husband yeah all right you know what i'll show yeah i appreciate the repeat i'm gonna take thanksgiving thanksgiving yeah nah man i got i got a better one for you What? Halloween You can't be Halloween You can't be Halloween

Okay You know what I'm going with My third holiday I'm going with Juneteenth Okay Juneteenth is cool That's a good one But I got one better

And I need you to be a part of this this year. What? National Toe Sucking Day. Oh, hell no. Yeah, yeah. I'm working that day. No, no, you're not working that day. I'm taking that day off.

Listen, according to the Urban Dictionary, no, National Toe... What day is National Toe Sucking Day? Ain't no day. It ain't on my calendar. No, no, I'm serious. I'm serious. No, it's on the calendar.

This is the real thing. This is the real thing. It's the real thing. But you have to... You have to evolve. You have to evolve. I mean, you're not evolving if you ain't sucking toes.

Well... You have to. And then when you graduate from the toes, you know you work your way other places. But that's another story. But you know what, dear? I'm like Neanderthal. I'm walking on all fours.

I ain't walking up right yet. You can't. Listen, the caveman days are long gone. Okay. Whew! I'll take Easter okay okay Easter work you know

most people you know you go to church yeah see it's Easter egg hunt yeah okay

I like it you know what I'm going with National Cigar Day National Cigar Day February yeah'm going with National Cigar Day. National Cigar Day, February 27th. National Cigar Day is February 27th. Matter of fact, National Toe Sucking Day in June 10th.

So it's coming up. So I need you, whoever you be texting and going on dates with, she needs to let you know about National Toe Sucking Day on the 10th of June. You know what, Ochoa? I will go, you know what I'm going to take?

What if I take New Year's? That's a good one. That's a good one. But hold on. If you take a New Year's, right? Yeah. Do you have a New Year's resolution? Do you have a New Year's resolution every year?

Not really. Okay. okay yeah me neither but i'm sick of people always having a new year's resolution and they do it for the first month or maybe the first two months and then the next 10 months they write back into their old their old routine okay nobody ever sticks to their nobody ever sticks to their thing okay Okay. What you want your honorable mention holiday to be? My honorable mention holiday would be Veterans Day.

I like that one. Veterans Day. Salute to all the troops, for everyone, the Mrs. Rail! Thank you for your service. And all they've done. I'm going with MLK Day. Okay, that's a good one.

That's a good one. Listen, I miss MLK Day when I was younger, being in Miami. New York does it. Philly does it. And here in Miami, we do it as well.

On Martin Luther King Day we pull out the dirt bikes we pull out the Yamaha Bantams and we ride we ride on the freeways we ride on the street we're not very disruptive but it's just

it's a good time you know with different people from different areas in Liberty City Carroll City you know we all link up together

and we ride dirt bikes and four wheelers through the streets and have a good time well we gotta have because we did an honorable mention we ain dirt bikes and four wheelers through the streets and have a good time. Well, we got to have because we did an honorable mention. We ain't got no dessert like we did.

So we're going to have two honorable mentions. What's your other honorable mention? Another honorable mention? Yep. Damn, I say Halloween trying to think.

What are the holidays? Matter of fact, you know what? What? My birthday. My birthday. My birthday is my honorable mention. And you know what's funny? I have yet to celebrate my birthday. I'm not one that does

parties. I don't like doing nothing. I tell my kids all the time, I don't need no gifts. I say a prayer at 1159 right before it hits January 9th. I thank God for seeing another year. There are many people that weren't able to reach this age of 56. And that's enough for me. I don't like parties.

I don't like clubbing. I don't like being around a group of people, you know, immediate family. That's cool. You can stop by, say hello. Don't buy me nothing. I don't need nothing. Just being here to see another year is enough. You know what? I mean, since I got Mother's Day, I might as well get

Father's Day too. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. Ojo went with Christmas, Valentine's Day, Halloween, National Toe Sucking Day, National Cigar Day. His honorable mention was Veterans Day and his birthday. I went with Mother's Day, Thanksgiving, Juneteenth, Easter, New Year's, MLK, Father's Day. Yeah, I think everybody would agree that my list is better. I don't know, Ocho. I think I got you. I think I got you. I think no would agree that my list is better. I don't know, Ochoa.

I think I got you. I think I got you. I think, no, no. Trust me, the chat would agree with me that my list is much better and a lot more appealing. You do realize, yuck, your birthday ain't no holiday, though, right? It is. It's a holiday because I'm celebrating. I'm celebrating life.

I'm celebrating life. That in itself is a holiday. Hey, so are you upset that nobody we didn't take 420 I don't smoke I don't smoke weed yeah I don't smoke

like that either so yeah I know I smoke cigars so wait what about what about wine and liquor they don't have they don't have a holiday

at all no I don't look you know what we should have taken one of us should have taken Taco Tuesday. I don't really know Taco.

I mean, I hear about it, but I just heard LeBron, and I see on social media, people post Taco Tuesday, but yeah. Yeah, I'm not a Taco person. No one took Cinco de Mayo? No one took the 4th

oh July 4th okay July 4th and so so 420 was left out Cinco de Mayo was left out 4th of July was left out

St. Patrick's Day was left out that's that's I mean those those are good but that just I gave you

those are my top my I gave you, those are my top, my top that I like the most. Yeah. So, oh, National Margarita Day. Margarita does have a day. Who? Margarita. What she do? A singer?

No, it's a drink. You don't know about margaritas, man? You don't go get brunch? Margarita? I know real, no? Real! Nah, man. She, I don't... Baby! I don't know what she doing. Yeah. Margarita.

That sound like a singer. Welcome to Margaritaville. Alright, Ojo. It's time for Q and A. Q and A. Q and A. Q and A, Q and A, Q and A, Q and A, Q and A. AJ Zamora said, just saved 54 bucks on Club Che Che and Nightcap merch.

Thanks, 8485. AJ, we thank you for your support. We thank you for purchasing the merch. We're proud. We greatly appreciate your support. We thank you for purchasing the merch. We're proud. We greatly appreciate your support. Dennis Vare says, Shannon defended Kelly Rowland, who's a black woman.

Oh, y'all hate me. Hate women, bro. Man, look here. Man, I don't know. Look here. See, people, they'll start something on the internet and once someone says it they take it like wildfire and this stem from we had i had gary owen on gary owen is a comedian there was a running joke in which he said, I'm Gary Owen. I have autism. He was making a joke about what Amanda Seals had said.

He's saying, I have autism. I can say I have autism, even though I haven't received a diagnosis. He was making light of a situation. It was a running joke throughout the entirety of the interview. He said at the end of it, he said, you know, I just came on here to get you canceled because you don't support black women. And I just wanted to come on here and say that. So it was a running joke. And black women, you know how we are in our community, black women. So when have there ever been a situation in which I haven't supported black women?

So Gary Owen didn't call nobody out of their name. He didn't call them out of their name. He didn't say anything derogatory about them. But that was, you see how stuff gets started? So I just, but nobody can tell you a situation where I haven't supported Black women. Now, all I do is tell you that I support my sister. I support my mom.

I speak in glowing terms about my grandmother, my kids, but y'all just took it and ran with it because that seemed like the right thing to do, especially now. I'm an algorithm. It took me a while to realize, but I've been informed

that Shannon's an algorithm. So when you say something about Shannon, it's going to shoot to the top of the charts. That's why you see so many podcasts. Most of their topics, most of their most views, they're talking about me, what I say. You and I, we don't really talk

about what nobody says on our podcast, don't you? Because we can create content without regurgitating what someone else said. Right, right. But they took off and ran with it. And I really never addressed it. But since Dennis brought it up, bro. Yeah, Dennis. Bro, I'm learning.

If you see the interview with Lavelle Crawford, I'm learning having talked to a lot of people behind the scenes. Everything doesn't need to be addressed. People are going to say what they're going to say. But Shanna, keep your head up. Keep making your money and keep moving along. So for all of those people out there that don't believe I protect, don't protect black women. That's your right. That's your right.

I'm not finna stand on no soapbox and said I did X, Y, and Z. And I did this, this, and that. That's not my place. Y'all run with that story. Wish y'all the best. Okay. Brandon Ugawu. Hey, like your interview with Kel Mitchell last week.

I only asked, why did you ask him about quiet on set documentary? Did he watch it? What was his thoughts on it? Especially when mentioned his producer, Dan Snyder, yelling at him. He made reference to it. A lot of times, even though it was a long interview, and sometimes, you know, you want to ask questions and you get kind of distracted and you get sidetracked because me, I ask a question, Ocho. I move out the way, let him talk.

A lot of times, that's why the majority of my interviews go so long, because I don't cut people off and try to move them to another topic. I want them to explain it to cover that. If I ask them a question, answer the question. And if you need to expand on it, go ahead. I'm not going to cut you off. I want, we're going to take as much time as you need to discuss whatever you want to discuss.

But I think he made reference to Dan Snyder. He didn't say his name, but I'm assuming when he said he had some issues and some things went on, I'm assuming, and that's very presumptuous of me, but I think that's what he was talking about.

I apologize for not going as in-depth, but some of the things that he was talking about, I thought that was kind of more, and he seemed to about, I thought that was kind of. Kind of more, and he seemed to want to expand on that, the situation, what he went through with his mental situation, the things that he went through with his first wife, a lot of the things that he went through growing up and being on Nickelodeon and things that transpired. And so I let them, you know, I ask the question and sometimes they're short, which means they want to move on. And then sometimes they want to be long,

which I'll let them take as much time as they need. Boss lady said, Shannon, boss lady said, Shannon, if she feeds you cake on the wedding night,

sex drive should stay right. Men can't get attention from women, but it takes a rare individual to check off list. Do you see us coming together? I don't let society dictate what I should do. Society says, okay, Sheldon, you're a man. You're 56.

You haven't been married. You probably shouldn't be married by now, or at least be married. Why? So when I run into a fight, when I run into a buyer, we're in society to help me. Ooh.

That's a good one. Society tells you all the things that they should do. You should do. Why am I listening to society? They don't help us. They don't help you, huh? Help me do what?

I mean, nothing. I mean, if I do something, I'm going to do it on my own volition. They say, you know, hey, man, you need to start wearing them tight clothes. Why? What you buy? If you buy me some new clothes, you buy me some loose-fitting clothes, I wear them. You can send them to the volume.

High-end, y'all know I wear high-end. So, bring me some high-ends, some LV, some Dior. You know, y'all want to buy some John Elliott, whatever hey send me some of my own merch I wear hold on matter of fact hey chat if y'all sending clothes send me some dickies send me dickies I wear 34 listen I you bonk you laughing boy I wear 34 34 jeans I like black, and the khakis. In the top, I need a large. I'm just saying, if y'all want to send anything, send me some dicks. Yeah. I just, like, at

the end of the day, at once upon a time, Ocho, maybe I, like, okay, this person thinks this, let me be. Man, you try to please people, and the one person that you should be pleasing is the most disappointed. That's you. Yeah. So now, I'm like now i'm like well if it i'm gonna be happy i'm gonna go where i want to go i'm gonna do what i want to do but it's interesting to see but like i said i i do listen to people

that have you know ideas and i'm just learning to let things just go because people are going to say what they want to say yeah um everybody has an opinion about who they think I am and what they think I do. Although the majority of the people that's in the chat or have an opinion about me has never, ever met me personally, have never seen me out. Oh, Shannon only like dates white girls. Oh, Shannon don't support black women. Oh, Shannon like this. Oh, he, but y'all never seen me with anybody.

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Because I don't care about anybody, who's seeing who, who's going. I don't care what they got to do with me. Man, you know, such and such. Man. It just really never. I don't know. I guess that because the way I grew up.

My grandma didn't like all that talking, you know, gossiping and stuff. And we definitely wasn't allowed to say anything. My grandmother would slap the taste out your mouth. She said, boy, what I told you about talking behind people right you know what she meant by that though cho oh yeah repeating what you heard somebody say yeah and by the time it even got to you is that story wrong than a motherfucker so i learned my lesson at a very young age in my own home i you know like you know we do stories and like, OK, I'm repeating. But as far as having a conversation about something, some gossip or whatever, it might be true. But I ain't got nothing to do with me.

I ain't got nothing to do with me. So, uh, no, I mean, can get attention from a woman. Yeah, they can. And I think. I think I think we all like, you know, yeah, I'm 56. I'm not dead. Do I like when women say, I like

what you have on or I like when you have a nice, oh, you're nice, blah, blah, blah. Sure. Yeah. But it doesn't like, huh? Yeah. Yeah. You messing with a heavyweight.

Hey, 500 and 0. you messing with a heavyweight I'm 100 hey 500 and 0 I got some I got somebody for you but I'm gonna talk about that later okay I appreciate that I appreciate that

I appreciate you talking about that later hey we will listen you remember don't forget now you need a plus one for that wedding oh and Ocho

we left off Memorial Day too oh that's this weekend that's this weekend that's Monday oh it's this weekend, isn't it? That's this weekend. That's Monday. Oh, it's on. Man, we... I don't really celebrate that either. Too much going on out there, man.

Not, bro. I mean, the thing... Too much going on. The holidays that I mentioned, with the exception of Juneteenth, were the only days that, like... We didn't... I mean, like Memorial Day

and stuff like that. I mean, we went to the park on the fourth of july but it was like yeah i just i'm like like mother's day you know my grand my grandmother father's day you know the church you know those are big in the black father's day and mother's day big because you're going to church you're taking your black ass to church you might not go you might not go for two times a year but mother's day father's day you're taking your black ass to church. You might not go over two times a year, but Mother's Day and Father's Day, you're taking your ass to church.

Easter too? Yeah, three times. So you're going three times. Yeah. Yeah. So you're going three times and church anniversary. Remember that church anniversary?

You may go to church anniversary. Church anniversary, but Easter, Father's Day, and Mother's Day, oh, you're going to church. Oh, yeah. What else we got? What else we got here? We got, well, Dr. Frank L. Bellarmine said,

it's Memorial Day weekend, so we want to barbecue. What other foods and drinks y'all look forward to at a barbecue? Any special family barbecue memories? Barbecue memories, what I'm looking for. I need my baked chicken. I need my ribs. I need my macaroni. I need my macaroni.

And I think it's greens. I don't think... They got candy yams at barbecues, right? Hell no. That's it. Just them three. I ain't think... They got candy yams at barbecues, right? Hell no. Yeah, that's it. Just them three. I ain't been to a barbecue

in so long, Unc. I ain't been to a barbecue. The family dynamic when grandma passed in 2018. Well, I ain't been to nothing like that in a minute. I ain't been to...

Coach O, people gonna look at me like I'm crazy. In 56 years, I've been to one family reunion. Damn. We didn't go. We didn't have no 4th of July cookouts. We didn't have nothing like that. We didn't do that.

That's why holidays, the holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving, my mom would come down for Thanksgiving. All my aunts and aunts always came over for Christmas and Thanksgiving and Mother's Day and Father's Day. But those were the days that we celebrated. So I didn't really go. We didn't really go anywhere. We didn't we didn't go to no family reunions and things.

Like I said, I went to one. I probably was. Nine. things like i said i went to one i probably was nine i came my last family reunion again obviously this in the family structure in the family dynamic it all it all went to shit once my grandma passed i mean she kept everything together yeah so the i think the last cookout that I had, I retired. So that was 2004. That was the last time that I attended the barbecue. Matter of fact, you know what we could do? What?

This is the great idea. Since you haven't done it in so long, I haven't done it in so long, we can choose a state and invite everybody from NICAP and have one big barbecue. Exactly. See, I think that people, see, when people,

when I tell people something, I'm the most outgoing introvert you're going to meet. People don't believe that. Right. But when I say I don't do anything outside of my house, I don't.

That's why I'm so surprised when people talk so much about me when they've never met me. They've never seen me at a function at a cookout. Unless you're from Glenville. Now, somebody from Glenville says, oh, yeah, Sheldon had a cook, had his thing at his grandma's house and blah, blah, blah. But ask the guys, just go ask people at Savannah State. What was I like? Oh, he was in his room he was working out doing parties ask guys in Denver ask people in Baltimore

so that's why I'm so baffled that people know so much about me and people can speak in such terms with such certainty now if Bucket said it if Keith Burns said it if Libby Sharp said it Ster Keith Burns said it if Libby Sharp

said it Sterling Sharp said it take it to the bank take it to the bank my oldest daughter if she say something now my other kids gonna tell you with a grid of certainty like yeah that's not my dad but if it's not

one of them don't y'all believe that bull jive yeah don't y'all believe it but i don't i don't do anything like i said i don't when i grew up with my grandma we didn't really go to people's house and and have cookouts and stuff like that went to my great-grandmother's house and you know played softball or played basketball stuff like that but i just grew up and then like my sister's eight years older than me, my brother's three years older than me. And I remember like I used to try to get my brother to play and sometimes he didn't want to play

basketball thing. And my grandma said, hey, just go play by yourself. So I learned to do things by myself and to be alone. Because once my brother left for college, I was a sophomore in high school. My sister's eight years older than me. She ain't finna be hanging out with no

15-year-old. She's 23. She's dating. So now, I'm by myself. I play a game. Coach bring me home. I'm with my grandmother and my nephew. So I learned to be alone by myself, and I'm okay with that.

And so, somebody that's going to be with me, they understand. Yeah. This is who he is. Kimber Northwood Jr. said, oh, my question, do you see Klay Thompson leaving Golden State for another team?

Is the money right? Golden State probably has a number based on his age, based on where they are as a team, what they want to go to. Now, he's looking at Holiday. He said, hold on.

Holiday just got like four years, 145, 135. Hmm. I think he's going to be looking for that type of number. I don't know if Golden State, if Golden State goes to that number, sure, he'll stay. But if, say, Orlando

or one of these young teams that needs a veteran presence, a guy that can shoot the three, catch and shoot, still a good defender, he's not what he once was on both ends of the court. But he's still a solid player. I can see him potentially leaving. Maybe Miami.

Yeah. Yeah. I like it. Whoa, say, hey, you said you're Nigerian. So when are you visiting? Like Ant and Chuck said, bring your ass.

Love Legos. Man, you know what? I got to go back. You know what? I do. That's my, huh? What you mean go back? I mean, come. Hell, you know what? I got to go back. You know what? I do. That's my... What do you mean go back? I mean, come. Hell, go back here.

That was probably six, seven generations that ended up coming from Nigeria. I do want to go to Africa because everybody says it's beautiful. So you got to see it. Say television doesn't do it justice. Books and magazines don't do it justice.

Movies doesn't do it justice. So I do want to see it for myself. But the time that I want to go, I kind of want to go like I want to see the great migration. I think that's like March, April, the rainy season. You see all the animals out. And I'm working that time. But you know what? I'm just going to have to break down and grow when I have time in the summer.

Probably not ideal, but hey, it is what it is. I'll get an opportunity to go see. Obviously, I want to do a safari. I want to go to Joburg. And then, you know, Robbins Island, where they was housed. What's his name? Mandela.

Yeah. Nelson Mandela. Mr. Mandela was held. I want to go to the passage of no return. I want to see that with my own eyes. There are certain things that I want to see. That I think I owe it to myself

to go see it. Yeah. A nightcap safari. We got to do the cookout first. We got to do the cookout first. We got to do the cookout first. And have everybody come. Everybody fly in. I got the venue already.

Oh, you got it? Yeah, I know exactly where to go. Laney Ray said, I'm in the same volleyball league, and I got to know, in your athletic prime, who would have been better hitter or blocker on my team? Me or Ocho? Well, I got a higher vert than Ocho, for sure. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

There is, in no lifetime can you out-jump me. Oh, Lord. In no lifetime. Ocho, you do realize I was an all-state triple jumper? Do you do realize I was a triple jumper, too? It just might not have been at state, but I was jumping. No, I won state three straight years. I held the state record.

You don't realize I held a state record for 35 years. But you got to understand where you held a state record at. You held a state record in a place where there was really no competition. Now, where I'm from. What part of Georgia? Well, you know, when you go to the state meet you compete against everybody i mean you hold on i'll put it to you like this in the state of georgia my senior i was the best jumper in the state of georgia i beat every class i was class a and i jumped everybody in double a triple a and quad a. Well, come on down to Miami and we'll show you about jumping.

No, I cannot jump you. I might not be able to jump anybody. No, I cannot jump you now, but I could. No, even back then. I'm still in my prime. I'm still in my prime. Now listen, at the combine, I had a 46-inch vertical.

And they asked me why I wasn't playing basketball. I just saw your vertical. was 35 remember i put a report i pull your report oh no that could i jump out you got one better you got one more point you got one more point than i did i got 35 you got 36 i'm not talking about the nfl combine i'm talking about when i was at the nba combine i jumped to 46. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, your combine was like 35. Yes, that's the NFL combine, but I also tried out for the Heat. And at that combine...

Not with no 35-inch vertical you did at 6'1". Not. At that point, at that point, I was 6'3". I'm 6'3". I don't do it with the 6'1". But you know, on average,

volleyball players have the highest vertical of all But you know, on average, volleyball players have the highest berths of all athletes. Yeah, they can jump. They can jump, man, especially when it's time to spike. Yeah. I mean, they routinely is 40 and above. Yeah. I mean, you think about how tall that net is,

and they have this up over the net? Right. Matter of fact, you know who played with me? That was a very, very good volleyball player that could have probably been pro, but chose to obviously play in the NFL. Danny Farmer that went to UCLA. Remember Danny Farmer?

Yeah, well, UCLA used to have a really good volleyball team. Hey, Danny, if you see this, man, I love you, man. I haven't seen you since our Bengal days. I hope all is well. I hope life is going good, man. I love you, baby. Danny Farmer. Yeah.

Good volleyball player. I mean, I love watching volleyball in the Olympics. I mean, you see, I mean, I remember the American team. They had Destiny Hooker and they had Logan Tom. And I think Karch Karai was the coach. I don't know if he's still. I don't know if he's still coaches, but I used to love watching... I love watching them play.

If it comes on in college, I watch Nebraska. I watch Penn State and Texas. Those are your perennial powerhouses that I watch. Yeah, I was a decent volleyball player in high school.

I don't know about all that, though, Joe. Yeah, I'm just decent I was a decent volleyball player in high school I don't know about all that though, Joe Yeah, I'm just telling you, man Listen, at the net You try to spike on me And listen, I can dig like no other Let me show you my technique now when it's time to dig Okay See my technique? I dig that bitch right up out the ground

Don't nothing get by me Dig it right up out of the ground don't nothing get by me dig it right up out of the ground I don't know about that Ocho but I'm going to take your word for it I'm going to take your word for it Ocho but uh no Ash you already going someplace you left us here

you left Jordan out here so no you ain't going someplace. You left us here. You left Jordan out here. And so, no, you ain't going nowhere. We're going to leave you. You always talk about, I'll be wanting to go. I'll be wanting to go. No, you don't. No, you don't.

So, no. No. Yeah. And plus, you know, I'll be watching the Brazilians and the Italians and the volleyball yeah yeah yeah I watch beach volleyball also yeah which is much more difficult oh yeah Mr. May and Kerry Walsh

and then I think the Brazilian team was I think one of them was named Larissa but beach volleyball you know they got beach volleyball in college now, Ocho. Yeah, in college? Yes! I think UCLA

just won the other day. Nah, USC won because Dane, he goes to the gym. They won the beach volleyball. He won the beach volleyball gold medal in Atlanta in 96. I think it was him and Karch.

But the two most famous was probably Karch and Ken Steffens. And then, you know, you remember the Thin Beast? Phil Dahlhauser? Nah. He's like 6'8". Damn.

Man, I look, I'm a sports junkie. I mean, if it's a sport, I'll watch. Bull riding, did you know, have you seen this new bull they got, Cool Whip? Yeah, hey, he just, I think he got one more buck off. He might have surpassed him. He passed Bushwacker.

He passed Bushwacker? Bushwacker. Bushwacker had the record at 42. He had one more buck off. He might have surpassed Bushwacker. He had one more. He surpassed Bushwacker? Bushwacker. Bushwacker had the record at 42. He had the record, yeah. He did at 43. So he a ranked bull. Bushwacker. Bushwacker was the man.

Hey, he was the real deal, boy. Yeah, Bushwacker. And they had a little yellow jacket. It was three-time bull of the year. E.T., the baddest bull with that chambray. A Charlotte and a Brahman bull named Bodacious. That was

at Sammy Andrews Farm. That was the baddest mofo around. You know you bad when you got a name named Bodacious. Hey, you remember I rode a bull, right? You remember that? You ain't ride Bodacious. No, but I'm just saying I rode a bull at the PBR in Duluth, Georgia. You saw that clip before, right?

Man, you stayed on that bull. I stayed on the bull. Listen, I stayed on the bull as long as some of the pros do. Now, stop it. That technically makes me a professional bull rider. No, it does not make you a professional. Yeah, yeah. I rode on... It was a real PBR bull. Deja vu.

No. I'm a bull rider. Cool Whip, Bushwhacker, Little Yellow Jacket, E.T., Tahana, Bodacious. Yep. That's top six. People like... People like Bushwhacker. Tahana, Bodacious. Yeah, that's top six. Look, people like

Bushwhacker and Little Yellowjacket. But for me, it's Bodacious. Bodacious is the best. They retired him. That's how I know you. Think about it. You so ranked that they say, nah, we good.

Yeah. Listen, my favorite my favorite bull riders pat murray yeah pat murray and jb hey and jb mooney yeah jb mooney i think jb might been he might have been the only one that's uh and the last to ride to ride to ride for Cool Whip yeah oh he rode Cool Whip too I think so yeah yeah but Tough Hederman I think I should add I should add

Bull Riding back to my resume back to my hobbies again go look at what Tough Hederman what uh what uh Bo Desha did

to Tough Hederman and the next time he came up he turned him out he took his hat off and said nah I'm good yeah

I ain't I ain't I ain't i ain't getting on him yeah but uh but i'm a sports junkie i watch it all from the tour de france to bull to bull riding i watch it all i i just i just love sports that's my thing uh hold it okay check this out patterson yazzie said uncle nocho loved content. Told my little sister graduated from high school. The last in the family, the baby. Could y'all shout out Shalai Destiny Lynn Yazzie and give her some words of encouragement. Congratulations.

Oh, Shayla. Shayla Destiny Lynn Yazzie. Congratulations. Big day. Baby, graduated. Congratulations on the honor. And your family is extremely proud of you.

Hey, go for it. The world is your oyster. Whatever you want to become, go do it. Oh, yeah. That concludes this episode of Night Count. We'll see y'all tomorrow, baby.

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