Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Daniels Hail Mary, Chiefs 7-0, D-Wade statue

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson in disbelief over Chicago Bears DB Tyrique Stevenson taunting the crowd while Washington Commanders rookie QB completes Hail Mary to beat the Bears 18-1...5 as time expires. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs improving to 7-0 after 27-20 win over the Las Vegas Raiders, the Miami Heat unveil an interesting Dwyane Wade statue and much more!03:18 - Chiefs beat Raiders09:17 - Scotts Lawn care22:19 - Eagles beat Bengals30:41 - What’s Olipopping Off34:05 - Texans beat Colts36:48 - Broncos beat Panthers52:17 - Cards beat Dolphins56:00 - Bills beat Seahawks01:03:20 - Q and Ayyyee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 The Chiefs improved to 7-0. They beat the Raiders 27-20. Mahomes extended his interception streak to eight games, including the Super Bowl. But, he became the fastest quarterback to throw for 30,000 career passing yards. He threw his 52nd regular season touchdown pass to Travis Kelsey, moving the QB tight end duo into third place on the history in that category. I don't think they're going to catch Phillip Rivers in
Starting point is 00:03:05 Gates. However, it was again Kansas City's defense that won the day after securing four sacks plus a late goal line stand in the third quarter and a fourth quarter fumble recovery. Patrick Mahomes was 27-38, 262.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Two touchdowns, one interception. He was sacked once. Kareem Hunt ran the ball 21 times, 59 yards. They even ran it 29 times for 82 yards. A lot of times, the running game, Ocho, is not necessarily, in Baltimore's case,
Starting point is 00:03:38 yeah, you chew up yards. But it's also to give the defense something else to think about. Give your offensive linemen a chance to rest and catch their breath because they want to put hats on people. But their defense is sensational. That defense is legit. You saw the goal line stance?
Starting point is 00:03:55 I absolutely did. Hold on. I tweeted. I said, oh my goodness, the Chiefs defense is good and everybody, obviously, they must have been Raiders fans say, nah, the Chiefs defense isn't good. Whoever's calling the offensive plays for the Raiders was dumb. Of course. Listen, I would have stuck it in somebody.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's easy to play blame and give credit, Ocho. Yeah, listen. Did you know that? Yeah, I would have ran it on first. I would have ran it on second. No, no, actually, at some point, I was waiting on them to put the fake in the belly and have play action to the tight end
Starting point is 00:04:25 That's what I thought was coming Some type of trippy running right running right down the middle of the strength of the goddamn teeth defense makes no goddamn sense at all And you're gonna try it four times in a row It's easy to say blame than accept accountability, Ocho. No, the Chiefs are 7-0.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They're 8-0. What are the Chiefs? They're 7-0. They haven't had their bye week yet. They ain't even had their bye week. They ain't even have all their goddamn playerss... They haven't had their bye week yet. They ain't even had their bye week. They didn't even have all their goddamn players. Have they? They had their bye week already?
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't think so, because the Raiders are 2-6, and the Chiefs are 7-0. So, I'm thinking they don't have their... I'm thinking that it lines up that they haven't had their bye week yet. Think about what's going to happen when Hollywood Brown come back. What are they going to look like? Patrick Mahomes not even playing his best football. They ain't lost a damn week yet. Think about what's going to happen when Hollywood Brown come back. What are they going to look like? Patrick
Starting point is 00:05:26 Mahomes not even playing his best football. They ain't lost a damn game yet. That's what's scary, is that he ain't even close to playing what he can be. Not even close, and they still undefeated. Spags is dialing it up. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:05:46 He's doing an unbelievable job. You need to pay Spags like he's one of the players. Oh, they paid him. I mean, he's probably the highest paid DC for sure. He got to be. Oh, they have had their bye week that's why they're seven and oh and not two and not eight wins because they've had their bye week that's why they've only played seven games the raiders haven't had a bye week that's why they
Starting point is 00:06:16 have eight they they play eight they're two and six right and the chiefs are seven and oh because they've had their bye week and so that's why we're also in week 8. But yeah, you're right, Ojo. Trav seemed to be getting, he had 12 targets, 10 catches, 90 yards and a touchdown. Xavier Worthy, 4 catches, 37 yards and a touchdown. Justin Watson, 3 catches, 33
Starting point is 00:06:39 yards. P. Ryan, 2. D. Hawk got into the action. He had 2 for 29, a 16-yard gain. Even Noah Brown had three catches. Noah Gray, excuse me, had three catches for 23 yards. They're spreading it around. So Kelsey, Worthy, Watson,
Starting point is 00:06:56 P. Ryan, Hopkins, Gray, Hardman, Steele, Hunt. Nine guys called passes. Everybody getting the ball. I wish they'd use D Dehop a little bit more, though. I mean... You just got there, Ocho. Damn.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I know. I mean, I'm just saying, two for 29. Like, use a little bit more. Ocho, the man just got there on Wednesday. I know. What that mean? You brought him there for a reason. Let's get him the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You think he know the offense? Let's get him... You think he know the offense? Oh, there's enough. I'm sure there's a small package for him that he knows. That's what they had him in, a small package. Small packages don't equate to 10, 12 catches, Ocho. Not the
Starting point is 00:07:33 first week you get there. At least six. Give me six targets. He played 23 snaps, Ocho. Yeah, I don't like that. But you know what? He did just get there and he's going to continue to grow, though. Yes! He's going to get't like that. But you know what? You know what? He did just get there, and he's going to continue to grow, though. Yes! He's going to get familiar with that.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Let me ask you a question. When Amari got to Buffalo, how many snaps do you think he played? Did he play the whole game? I don't know, but his first game, he had 66 yards, 66 of 76 with a touchdown. Yeah. Which one of those guys on that roster is Trevor Kelsey? Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I put my hand up. But, look, he's shown he's a valuable, he's a great possession guy. He's going to keep the first down moving. And look, Andy will find a way to get him more involved. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:09:34 other than jane daniels daniels connected with noah brown on a tilt pass a 52 yard hail mary with no time left i understand they said it was 52 yards, but he launched it about 70 because if you go back and look at the replay, look how far he was behind the line of scrimmage. So he threw that ball somewhere between 60 and 70 yards. Tyreek
Starting point is 00:09:57 Stevenson, this is what he tweeted. To Chicago and my teammates, I apologize for my lack of awareness and focus. The game isn't over until zeros hit the clock. Can't take anything for granted. Nose take it and prove it will happen. Bear down.
Starting point is 00:10:13 No, no, no, bro. You are there celebrating. Yeah, you don't expect, you know, you don't expect nothing like that to happen. If you are. Why not? Tell me why not? If you thought. Did we not just see Aaron Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Hold on. Just two weeks ago, we saw Aaron Rodgers do what, Ocho? Hail Mary. Oh, so you don't expect Hail Mary to happen? Has what happened in that game, has that ever happened before? It's happened before. Can I say something? What's the number one rule for DBs or
Starting point is 00:10:41 safeties on Hail Mary? To bat the ball what? Down. Bat the ball down. To bat the ball what? Down. Bat the ball down. Stop trying to catch the interception. Bat the ball down. If you don't try to get the interception and be selfish just to get the goddamn stat, and you bat the ball down, the game is over.
Starting point is 00:10:58 How about you do your responsibility? And there was going to be plenty of time for you to do that to the crowd. Do you see him still looking? His guy, Noah Brown, the guy that called it. Yeah. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. I mean...
Starting point is 00:11:18 I mean, I was just trying to figure out... That's so unlucky. No, it's not unlucky. You know what the percentage of completing the Hail Mary is? Luck is what happens when... Luck is what happens when
Starting point is 00:11:33 preparation meets opportunity. Have you ever practiced the Hail Mary in practice? Yeah, maybe once. Yes! You practice it every week. So when it happens, preparation, you prepare for it. The opportunity presents itself. You go
Starting point is 00:11:49 for it. No. He had one job to do. Yeah. So let me ask you a question. So tell me the time that you have a period in which you get to celebrate and you try to jump it up with the crowd. Tell the fans in Cincinnati, did y'all have a period like that? Okay, guys. The game is almost over.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I want you to turn to the stands and try to get into it with the crowd. Let me know that play. What period is that which y'all have? It ain't none. It ain't none. Just a little premature. And guess what it cost him? It got him a game.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Now, think about that. He's never going to live that down. No. Everybody's going to know him for that play. How does he live that down, Ocho? He can't. He can't. That's going to be on highlights for years to come.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Damn, man. I feel bad for young Bull, man. I know he was Damn, man. I feel bad for young Bull, man. I know he was hyped, boy. Yeah, he was hyped. Let me ask you a question. In that celebration he was doing to the sidelines, do you think he was ever as hyped as the Commanders were when they walked it off?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Hmm. That was dope. That was dope. That was dope. For a play like the Hail Mary to be such a small percentage play as far as success rate is concerned, I was surprised. I was surprised it happened.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I was surprised it happened. I was like, yeah, okay. Nothing surprised me on the football field. Yeah, I know you're right. Let me ask you a question. After you saw what happened in the Super Bowl with Malcolm Butler, why are you surprised by anything? If you played this game long enough, Ocho, you've seen strange things happen.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. The prepared. unfortunately the prepared Amundsen said luck is what they call it all he had one job to do I just want to know
Starting point is 00:13:59 what the job the description that caused him that said this is what we want you to do. We want you to make it about you. Oh yeah, you got that. Yeah, y'all thought y'all had it. Y'all thought y'all had it, didn't y'all?
Starting point is 00:14:16 And then, when the play going on, he still wasn't busting his ass. Watch the replay. And we're going to talk about it again tomorrow because I want you to watch the replay and I want you to tell me do you think he was busting his butt to get over there? Because he got over there late. Guess what he did, Ocho? He was the
Starting point is 00:14:31 one that tipped it. He hit the ball. If he was in position, he'd have been in position to do this. But he wasn't in position. He did that. He swatted the ball. Noah Brown said thank you you see what happens you lose more
Starting point is 00:14:56 Ocho teams lose more games than they win yeah the Bears lost this game yeah they did they did because They did. Because all it takes is one. One guy wasn't
Starting point is 00:15:11 doing his job, and it cost $52,000. Damn. Mm-mm. Don't cuss. Call Gus. Don't cuss now. Do your job Ocho let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:15:27 is the celebration any less jubilant if it happens five seconds later yeah he could have waited that's why I said it was premature premature wait till the clock hits zero when the clock hits zero talk all the trash to the fans you won't because I know they've been hacking you all game anyway
Starting point is 00:15:43 yes yes of the fans you won't. Because I know they've been hacking you all game anyway. Yes. The greatest trash talk is the win. Yeah. That's the greatest trash talk, Ocho. Yeah, it is. It is. Had Muhammad Ali
Starting point is 00:15:59 not been able to do, nobody would have remembered anything what he was saying. Yeah. It was because he was winning. Mayweather. Y'all remember when Conor McGregor was knocking folks out and he had all that great
Starting point is 00:16:16 trash talking? Tell me the last time y'all remember he said something meaningful that y'all can go back and talk to. Because he'd been getting his ass kicked. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Now you're getting beat. All those cliches and those one-liners. He was as great a trash talker as there was,
Starting point is 00:16:31 but he was knocking folks out. Now he's getting carried. Don't nobody remember what he said from the press conference. Winning is the greatest trash talk ever created. We would have not remembered what Joe Namer was saying had he not guaranteed. Had they lost that game, how many times, how many somebody,
Starting point is 00:16:51 because how many times did somebody say, I guarantee you, and it didn't happen? We forget about that. But we remember that guarantee because they won. They won. Hey, remember, I- Let it be a lesson let it be a lesson young man
Starting point is 00:17:10 hate that you put yourself in that situation but let it be a lesson a wise man will learn from other mistakes a fool will learn from his own I hate that you had to learn this lesson. I hate that you had to learn this lesson. I hate it that you had to learn this lesson through
Starting point is 00:17:30 your own mistake. The matchup between 2024 number one and number two overall picks both quarterbacks will go down in history to lead changes. I mean, think about it. In the first 59 minutes and 35 seconds, there was one touchdown scored.
Starting point is 00:17:48 They scored two touchdowns in the last 25 seconds. The commanders, 18, Chicago Bears, 15. That's a long flight. Very. Man, that's a long-ass
Starting point is 00:18:04 flight home, and you know everybody looking at it Ocho you know how it is hey man pick your head up it's a team game you know team game nigga you close out the game man hey I ain't telling you what somebody told me I've been in that situation
Starting point is 00:18:19 hey man hey it's alright we'll get them next time do your job we got him this time yeah they'll never tell you to your face though they'll never tell you to your face
Starting point is 00:18:29 but they oh they're gonna whisper it behind your back oh no no no oh no not us oh
Starting point is 00:18:36 Tito Paul yeah the one that gave him that touchdown to I think it was Amari Tumor that caused us to undefeated season
Starting point is 00:18:43 oh we got his ass as soon as we got on the plane. Oh, we got him on the plane. Hey, bro, you alright? Yeah, man. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, you cost us undefeated season. Oh! Oh, ask him! Yes! Oh, absolutely!
Starting point is 00:19:04 We tore his ass up. Right. We go to that play. Hey, we didn't get him in the locker room. Right. But we go to that play. Let him have it, huh? Did we?
Starting point is 00:19:15 You know we got. You grew in hat day. Because Mike, we didn't have to come in until Wednesday. Right. Got to think about it now, Ocho. This was in our back-to-back. This was the second of the back-to-back Super Bowls. So we went on a win streak.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So if we won the game, we didn't have to come in until Wednesday. And we had hat day on Friday. Right. So we won the last game of the season, which was Seattle. We won three playoff games. And we're on the Super Bowl. And then we started the season. So we had won 17 straight games.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Right. Thanks, Tito. You F'd that up. Hope you feel good about yourself. Hope you can sleep at night. I know he hurt. He hurt. 55 guys got to come in on Monday.
Starting point is 00:20:04 No hats. Woo! Them heavy- come in on Monday. No hats. Heavy ass helmets on Friday. Oh, my toy ball. Oh, ask him. If y'all see Tito Paul, ask him. Pull his ass up. Hey, that's funny. But I wasn't by myself.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I just happened to be the Lurie. Burns. Oh, we got it. Oh yeah. Oh, you had it. Look,
Starting point is 00:20:30 you know, you know this firsthand. You got to have thick skin. Oh yeah. Most definitely. Listen, you cannot let, you cannot let the guys know it's bothering you.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Cause if they do, Oh, it's never going in. It's never, never going in. If somebody called you a name, Hey man, go on with that. Oh, it's never going in. It's never. Never going in. If somebody call you a name, they're, hey, man, go on with that. Oh, that bother you, huh? It's over.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's over. Man, I got, I mean, I gave guys nicknames to this day. I mean, they might refer to them by their real name. I'm like, man, who is that? Right. Man, you don't know. Who that is.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Once you get a nickname, it's just like when you growing up in the South, I don't know how they do it in the New, but if you get a nickname, you could get grown, you could be grown, you could be married, you could be whatever. That's your name. It sticks, always. Forever. And it might be on your
Starting point is 00:21:25 obituary. Such and such. Abomination. Quotation. Yes. That's your name. The Eagles beat the Molly Walk. Don't walk them.
Starting point is 00:21:42 No, they just won the game. didn't molly walk molly walk if you win if you beat a team in the nfl by three scores that's molly walk that's don't walk the eagles again didn't score in the first quarter they haven't scored in the first quarter all season but they made up for it in the next three quarters but it helps to play the bingos yeah and they score 37 points in the final three quarters. After halftime, Jalen Hurts was a perfect nine for nine,
Starting point is 00:22:09 150 yards, and a TD pass. Hurts finished with three rushing touchdowns. Saquon Barkley. Giant, y'all missed that. Oh, he rushed for 108 yards too. The Bengals fell to 0-4 in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:22:22 This season, they're 3-5. Damn. Y'all still winning the division, don't you? No. You gotta bring that up. We doing a little better. I'm just going by what you said. So run me my money. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:37 What did Joe Burrow say? I think 10 wins usually gets you in. We gotta win 7 out of 9. Joe Burrow said it's doable. So guess what I believe? Guess what I believe? How many games y'all got to win? We got to win 7 out of 9. Hell, y'all won 3 out of 8.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So what makes you think y'all can win 7 out of 9? Oh, wait a minute. This is a long football season. This is not a sprint. This is a marathon. Now, we might be playing bad right now, but hell, we could catch goddamn fire. It's a marathon? If Joe say we could win seven of the last nine, we gonna win seven
Starting point is 00:23:12 of the last nine. Yeah, he said y'all need to get hot here, and y'all ain't won a game since. Y'all won one game since he said y'all need to win one. And having tea out today didn't really help either. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not making no excuses.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's what it sounds like to me. Hey, Chad. I promise you I'm not. It sounds like you made excuses. Listen, we lost the game in fan square. Philly played very well. They played Saquon Brown very well. A.J. Brown contributed.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Goddamn Devonta Smith, the Obama homeboy. You know, it's okay. It's okay. We didn't play well today. Whatever it is needs to be fixed. What you mean today? Y'all got three wins. It's been a lot of days y'all haven't played well.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's not necessary. Why are you bringing up the past? We talk about the Eagles game. Okay. Whatever needs to be. Y'all got Maliwap. Yeah, we, no, we lost. Maliwap is, you know who got Maliwap? The Titans got Maliwap. That's Maliwap no we lost you know who got Maliwap
Starting point is 00:24:07 the Titans got Maliwap that's Maliwap we just lost the game Ocho y'all lost by 20 points in an NFL game there's only two teams today that lost by that many y'all and the Titans it happens it's football. Some day is just not yours.
Starting point is 00:24:30 When y'all going to have a day? Y'all done lost five games. When y'all going to have a day? I can tell you what. We're going to win the next seven. We're going to win seven of the next nine. I bet that. Because my quarterback said so.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Defensively, we got to get it together. Offense, no. Only scoring seven points. What makes you think y'all going to get it together? It's a long season. Are you trying to just... I'm trying to... Okay, it's a long season. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:58 In the process of that long season, what makes you think y'all going to get it together? The whole point of going to practice and doing film study studying and going to meetings is to improve week to week have y'all improved week to week we haven't not not yet so what makes you think you're gonna prove there's a chance it can turn around there's a chance it can turn around hey there's a chance it could get worse so is there a chance it could get worse? That also is a possibility. 50-50. It's a possibility, but I don't think that would be the case.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I personally don't think that would be the case, and that's not because I'm a Bengal fan. I'm just understanding, looking at what we have, especially offensively. The offense is what carries that team. Y'all scored 17 points. Yeah, 17 points ain't good enough. How many points did they score
Starting point is 00:25:47 against the Patriots? 13? Yeah, that's not good enough either. And especially now the fact that we're in week 7 or week 8, there's no reason why we should only be scoring 17 points, especially with the weapons Joe Burrow has to use.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Joe Burrow has at his disposal. Oh, y'all scored 10 against the Patriots. Let me take my three points back. You scored 10. All right. How y'all looking? I'm looking at y'all running backs. Brown, Burrow, Zach Moss. Joe makes it look good as Houston.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe balling, boy. Joe is balling. I'm talking about balling. Oh, y'all scored 17 against the Giants. Y'all only had one explosive game and you lost. You scored 38 against the Ravens, but you lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But more times than not, y'all been some butt sauce. It's one of them years, huh? You know, have your fun, make your jokes. I don't know. That ain't what I do. Talk about my team,
Starting point is 00:26:51 you know, it's okay. No, because I remember you talking about your guns earlier, talking about the Broncos. What are the Broncos going to do?
Starting point is 00:26:56 I didn't say nothing about the Broncos. Huh? What's y'all record, huh? Better than yours. Okay. I don't know what I record either. Okay. huh? Better than yours. Okay. I don't know what our record is. It's better than yours.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Y'all, nah, I don't think. Hold on. Let me make sure y'all record better than ours. I know for certain it's better than yours. Matter of fact, I got, look at, look at, look at. This is what we got coming up. We got the Raiders. That's going to be this what we got coming up we got the raiders that's gonna be a win all right we got the ravens we got a loss joe burrow don't be joe burrow don't
Starting point is 00:27:34 be don't beat lamar we got the ravens and the charges so we got the raiders ravens and charges so boom that's three games we're gonna win right there then we got the bitch i bet y'all don't go three and oh put your money put your money where your mouth is then put your money where your mouth That's three games. We're going to win right there. I bet y'all don't go 3-0. Put your money where your mouth is, then. Put your money where your mouth is. You already owe me. You want to make it double or nothing? Double or nothing. Bet.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Wait, time out. What do I owe you for? You're just making up something. What do I owe you for? I ain't making no bets up. We're going gonna go back and get the tape I'm gonna find the tape where we bet
Starting point is 00:28:07 nah nah nah nah nah you remember I ain't bet nothing there was nothing to bet about there it is y'all good and terrible Ocho I'm Michael Kassin
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Starting point is 00:31:15 I got you I got you ready go go go the Lions beat the Titans 52-14 to win their fifth straight game they're showing no signs of slowing down. They put up 35 points in the first half. The most since 1970. Jameer Gibbs reached a max speed of 22.03 on a career-long 70-yard rushing touchdown in the first quarter. I think, if I'm not
Starting point is 00:31:46 mistaken, what's his name? The quarterback for the Lions. Jerry Garth. He only had 85 yards passing. Yeah. I mean, well, hell, he didn't have to throw the damn ball. And
Starting point is 00:32:04 Jameer Gibbs in Montgomery was going crazy. Well, you see how fast Jameer Gibbs ran today? When he hit that goal? Huh? 23.03. Man, listen, man. Man, young bull fast as hell, bro. You know what?
Starting point is 00:32:22 If it was to compare Jameer Gibbs in the open field and Chris Johnson who you got Chris Johnson what the hell you talking about I ain't taking no running back over Chris Johnson that man ran 4-2 far electronic time
Starting point is 00:32:44 hold on what Jameer Jameer ain't no 4-2 guy probably ran 4-2-4 electronic time hold on what did you mean Jamir ain't no 4-2 guy probably ran 4-3 right okay probably low 4-3 4-3 4-3-0
Starting point is 00:32:53 boy there's a big difference between 4-3 and 4-2-4 not this much no it's bigger it's more than that hey you see that that white kid from Iowa
Starting point is 00:33:04 4-1-5 yeah he looked like 4-1-5 hey you see that white kid from Iowa 415 yeah he look like 415 hey but he got out so fast boy they be digging I'm telling you there's a difference between
Starting point is 00:33:20 football speed and track speed that's elite speed yes I think Christian Coleman ran like 412 between football speed and track speed. That's elite speed. Yes. I think Christian Coleman ran like 4.12. Hell, Usain Bolt in sweats and sneakers ran 4.22. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. I saw that one.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, I remember that. That's crazy, man. Man, that speed to burn. I don't want to be that fast. All that do is go get me to the safety quicker to get knocked out. I need to keep this high 4.5 and low 4.6, Ocho. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't need to get to that safety any quicker than what I've been getting to it. That's a headache waiting to happen. The Texans beat the Colts 23 to 20. Anthony Richardson was two of 15 in the first half on Sunday's loss to the Texans. That was the worst half first half completion percentage by a player with at least 15 attempts since Steve Berline went to a 17 and the Cowboys in the
Starting point is 00:34:21 first half of game, excuse me, against the Eagles. 11 years before Richardson was born. The fans are slamming Anthony Richardson for taking himself out of the game in the third quarter. Ocho, Anthony Richardson talked about it after the game.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Tired. Ain't gonna lie. That was a lot of running right there that I did. So I just told Shane, I needed a break right here. He just took, it was just one play on. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:51 Joe, you can't, you can't. Oh, Joe, everything. You don't have to verbalize everything. Right,
Starting point is 00:34:57 right, right, right, right. Guys need to understand that, bro. You think you being stand up, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You the face of the franchise. You can't come out. You too tired to turn around and hand the ball off. that, bro, you think you being stand up? Bro, you the face of the franchise. You can't come out. You too tired to turn around and hand the ball off? Right. And you know what? You know why I thought he came out and he didn't say nothing? I thought it was that left ankle.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Okay, say that. You can't say I'm tired, Ocho. I don't think he wanted to say he was hurt. I think it was that left ankle. So you think saying I was tired was better than saying I was hurt? You know how that go. Once you got an injury, you know what they want to do. They want to take your helmet. They don't want to let you back in the game.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Ocho, Ocho, the man said I was tired. Yeah, yeah. We've seen Lamar we've seen quarterbacks run 30 40 50 yards and come back in and had you mean to tell me this man this man is 21 22
Starting point is 00:35:55 years of age and you too tired to turn around and hand the ball off oh that's not a good look man that's a horrible look yeah it wasn't a good answer it wasn't a good look, man. That's a horrible look. Yeah, it wasn't a good answer. It wasn't a good answer. I'm sure he'll learn from it, though.
Starting point is 00:36:10 He'll learn from it. You have to be careful with what you say. And obviously, he's not as media savvy as other quarterbacks would be, especially in that scenario in a situation like that. But I still think
Starting point is 00:36:20 it was that ankle. I really think it was that ankle. That's why it came out he'll learn from it though Lord have mercy sometimes guys just don't even say nothing just don't say nothing
Starting point is 00:36:42 man the Broncos just don't say nothing man the Broncos the who? beat the brakes off the Panthers what we do that don't even count they playing the Panthers man that don't count
Starting point is 00:36:54 we beat y'all too you don't get no you don't get no points for that you don't get no points for that game at all Bo Nix had 220 passing yards
Starting point is 00:37:03 in the first half of Sunday's win, more than he's had all but one game this season. DB, J.C. Horn called out Sean Payton post-game trying to run up the score. No, no, no, no. You let me coach this team. My job
Starting point is 00:37:18 is to coach my team. Your coach's job is to coach your team because what I do, Coach O, when I beat you bad, I do you a favor. I let everybody know you're not good enough. Your offense, your defense, your special teams. Because, see, if I make it a close game, you're going to go in the locker room and say, Guys, we're close.
Starting point is 00:37:41 We're really close. That's a good football team, and we almost had them. No, I beat the hell out of you. I let you know you're not close. We're really close. That's a good football team, and we almost had them. No, I beat the hell out of you. I let you know you're not close. You're not close in any aspect of it. So don't worry about my team. Why you don't worry about my team? John Payton was brutally honest postgame about playing the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:37:59 That's not a good offense we played. It's just the truth. We expected that. We're going to see a lot better teams. The Broncos are 5-3 at Baltimore and Kansas City the next two weeks. It is. Now, you know what? You hyping up your Broncos so much, doing all this hoorah and hoopla, and you're so happy about beating the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Well, hell, you're going to lose the next two games. Don't worry about it. Y'all lost y'all last two. You're going to lose the next two games. But we played really good teams Y'all lost y'all last two. You're going to lose next two games. But we played really good teams that we lost to. There's a difference. The Patriots good?
Starting point is 00:38:32 You talk about way at the beginning of the season. Did y'all lose a win against the Patriots? It's a simple yes or no. Yeah. But y'all finna lose the next two though. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Why you wish bad on us? I'm not wishing bad on you I'm just I'm just being real I'm just being real oh now all of a sudden you want to be real I've been asking you
Starting point is 00:38:52 to be real early you want to be real now hey uh Sean Payne said I was just brutally honest folks he said uh
Starting point is 00:39:01 that's not a good offense hey see any other coach would have said that they would have jumped on him if would have said that, they would have jumped on him. If a player had said that, they would have jumped on him. But Sean Payton says it and tells the truth about the elephant in the room. It's crickets. They're not good.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I mean, we know that. You're not supposed to say it, though, as a coach. I mean, hey, the thing thing is that kind of started our rivalry in Pittsburgh I said that the first game we played Pittsburgh in 0-3 River Stadium and we shut them out my first year in Baltimore and I said that might be the worst team worst Steelers team
Starting point is 00:39:36 I've seen in my life Coach Kyle would say he'd shout back and say hey you tell him to worry about his own team and we'll worry about our team. So that kind of started the Steelers-Ravens rivalry. Yeah. Because that's when we started getting into it.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I started, you know, Plexico and I went back and forth. Earl Holmes. Goddamn Plex. Broncos are 5-3. Another team, my co-host is three and five. Five and three.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Three and five. Hey, I bet one thing. I got a side bet on top of the other bet that we double or nothing. Mm-mm. I don't want to bet. Hold on. I bet the Bengals finish with a better record than the Broncos. I tell you what I'm betting right now.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I bet that. I ain't betting you no than the Broncos. I tell you what I'm betting right now. I bet that. I ain't betting you no more. You know what I'm going to bet? What? You know what I'm going to bet? What? I'm going to bet the look on your face when y'all don't make the playoffs. Hey, y'all ain't making the playoffs either.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Y'all ain't finna make the playoffs either. So what's the difference? Who said I remember a team saying the AFC runs through us. I don't remember anybody on the Broncos side saying the AFC runs through us. Who said,
Starting point is 00:40:53 who said? I don't know. Hey, Chad, do y'all remember, do y'all remember somebody saying the AFC runs through Cincinnati? Who said that?
Starting point is 00:41:01 And I said, I ain't never seen the team talk so much. Went to the Super Bowl one time, they didn't win, but they did go. Give them kudos for that, they win And I said, I ain't never seen a team talk so much. Went to the Super Bowl one time. They didn't win, but they did go. Give them kudos for that. They win. I say, when y'all start talking so much?
Starting point is 00:41:12 I don't know, Sean. When they start talking so much. They ain't won nothing. They ain't won no Super Bowl. They ain't got no MVP. Hold on. So because we ain't got no MVP and we ain't got no Super Bowl, we can't talk? What y'all talking about? Football.
Starting point is 00:41:27 What? Just about the AFC North coming through Cincinnati. Nothing goes through Cincinnati, Ocho. Well, I mean. Amtrak don't even go through Cincinnati. Not this year. That ain't what y'all said. You said the AFC goes through Cincinnati
Starting point is 00:41:46 that's what you said listen that ain't what you said that's what somebody said somebody said that wasn't me I mean we having a bad we having
Starting point is 00:41:56 you know what I'm not even gonna say we having a bad year we having a bad year but things can turn around there's a lot of you do realize there's a lot of football
Starting point is 00:42:03 left to play right oh you making it seem like there ain't a lot of football so you do realize there's a lot of football left to play, right? Oh, you making it seem like there ain't a lot of football, so only the Bengals got a lot of football left to play, huh? No, I mean, but listen, the pendulum is going to shift anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:15 The Bengals are going to start improving and the Broncos are going to be, it's going to go the opposite way. Watch. Because you're getting a little too hype, a little too, you know, besides yourself, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:25 No disrespect to Sean Payton and Bo Nix, but you'll see. And I'm rarely wrong when it comes to my predictions. Rarely. You wrong. You'll see. I mean, y'all go to the thing and then y'all be being disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Burrow head. Burrow head. Really, Lord, that's Aaron. Burrowhead. Really? The fans made that up. Burrowhead? But the fans made that up. No, y'all was saying it.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Y'all was saying it after y'all beat him in Arrowhead. The players. No, no. And then my homeboy knocked five from y'all. Oh, Joe Burrow got a winning record against Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, yeah. Lamar Jackson got a winning record against Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And? He does, he does, he does. I can't deny that. Those are facts. You can't deny it. Why would you want to? It's all good. Look here, man.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Eat that Skyline chili. What's the name of that chili is Jordan from Cincinnati skyline and gold star that's all y'all got chili dogs it's all good it ain't all good get your jokes out now
Starting point is 00:43:37 jokes out now laugh now yeah you been thinking you been thinking poop was sweet I heard you alright you'll see you'll see. You'll see. Wait till the end of the season to watch who has a better record. And maybe an opportunity to be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It won't be y'all. Don't worry about us. I bet you. Worry about your own self. You good? You love it when a plan comes together. Ain't nothing like a plan coming together. When you sit down, you love it when a plan come together ain't nothing like a plan coming together yeah when you sit down you plot strategize
Starting point is 00:44:09 mobilize realize and then all of a sudden that thing start tracking in the right direction right oh man ain't nothing better than that sorry to don't you yeah you good you good you good you good Sorry, Adolcho. Yeah, you good. You good. You good.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You good. We're going to be all right. Like, I feel bad. Like, I'm hurt. I'm kind of, I'm more so disappointed. The fans of Cincinnati are frustrated. For what? Y'all been losing for 100 years.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Hold on. You want to take these last couple years, and you think that's going to erase what happened in the 70s, what happened in the 90s, what happened in the 2000s, what happened in the 2010s? Really, Ocho? Listen, we were on a path and the culture has changed in Cincinnati. Now, you know that.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's a winning culture. Y'all the Bengals. The expectations are high. You are. Hold on. It was you that always told me you need to manage your expectations. Therefore, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:21 my bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. You're talking relationships again. therefore you know I ain't gonna do it my bad my bad Ocho my bad my bad you talking relationships again Ocho I read the room let me have a little something I read the room see
Starting point is 00:45:37 how you don't even have no compassion you don't know what I'm going through right now I know what you're going through, Ocho. Hey. But I'm just saying that was triggering. Ocho, it's the bird in the hand.
Starting point is 00:45:56 See, if I got a bird in my hand and the wise man comes along, he just say, hey, is the bird dead or alive? Uh-huh. The wise man gonna say, hey, the bird is on your hand. Only you know. Because see, if I say he's dead, I'm gonna open my hand and let him
Starting point is 00:46:11 fly away. Right. And if I say he alive, I'll crush it. The bird is in your hand, Ocho. Only you know. Stay with me now. Hey, you know what? I ain't got no pen and paper right now, man. Stay with me now. That was a good one. I ain't got no pen and paper right now man stay with me now that was a good one i ain't got no pen and paper that was a good one
Starting point is 00:46:29 fix it damn it's good you got a great you got a great oh joe you got a great situation fix it now well shoot i i'm blocked so you might need to make that call for me it's not it's not because here's the thing when people say the grass is greener okay what type of fertilizer you use how often you water it see they don't tell you that they just say the grass greener but i need to know the fertilizer that you're using yeah i'm not i also need to know if you're using a post-emergent or pre-emergent so are you killing the weeds after they grow are you killing the pre before they grow see i'm saying see that's that farmer coming out of me. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I just need to know. Right. Right. But listen, it's going to have to be a team effort. What are you laughing? Boy, it's going to have to be a team effort. Hey, I'll tell you no lie. Rail, let me cut me out.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Uh-uh, uh-uh. We got that here, rail. Hey. no lie. Well, if it comes to you, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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Starting point is 00:47:42 uh, uh, uh, uh, but you want to get you there hold on i'm in houston i mean okay i came to a day party at um what's it called again at chapman and kirby so i didn't want to leave chapman and kirby and try to rush back to the hotel to get to my room so they let me sit up in the back so i'm still i'm still here hey i'd have been i'd have been on what you call i'd have been on a flight back trying to fix that oh I can't because I don't know
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm just saying I'm blocked I don't know what to do look here that's one thing about you Ocho you're a wise man the one thing I know about men they can figure it out and you know what you know what I can't do though and I can talk to you and chat you know like remember how you say if you live publicly if you live it publicly
Starting point is 00:48:26 you break up publicly yeah so it's okay see I can deal with that though I can deal with that take it offline the stove is hot I can imagine all I'm saying is did she say don't
Starting point is 00:48:42 call her no more no okay you good because anytime a woman tell me don't call don't worry about it block erase the number oh no you'll never get me for stalking nah oh i don't play that so be choose wisely don't don't if you ever tell shadow sharp don't call you again, you ain't got to worry about O'Shea. You ain't just hit me, huh? I know. Ocho, look here. The stove is hot.
Starting point is 00:49:13 There's no point in touching the stove if it's still hot. I got to let the stove cool down. Ocho, look, at the end of the day, it's two adults. Y'all both grown. You can get into a room. You can figure it out if that's what the both of y'all both grown um you can get into a room you can figure it out if that's what the both of y'all want so i'm gonna let y'all i'm gonna let y'all i'm gonna let y'all handle that uh you know i thank the world of both of y'all but uh y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all can figure this out why don't you do me a favor what why don't you be the moderator?
Starting point is 00:49:46 You laughing? Cause, Hey, ain't no, ain't no, that shit ain't funny, man. Shit.
Starting point is 00:49:50 What? That shit hurt. What? Yes. But here's the, but here's the thing. Oh, Joe heard the thing.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Give it a, give it, give it a day or two. Let her calm down. Um, it's fresh. It's really fresh now. Um, but you need to stay offline. Both of y'all need to stay
Starting point is 00:50:07 offline. All I do is tweet normal. I tweet football. That's it. Both of you stay offline. And next time, if this thing is to be repaired, keep it offline. Y'all don't have to be so public.
Starting point is 00:50:23 That wasn't me. Yeah, shit. Yeah, you didn't have to be so public and you might be watching. Shit. Mm-mm. Fuck. Man, look here.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many
Starting point is 00:51:12 stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...
Starting point is 00:52:13 I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Cardinals fall to a Dolphin return, huh? The Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:53:03 With the last second field goal, down 14, Kyler Murray and the Cards come back to win. 28-27. The Dolphins fell to 2-5, but the offense, they look drastically different with the team and have four weeks without their quarterback. The offense has averaged 10 points without Tua. They scored 27 today.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Oh, the defense is not good. What? The Dolphins' defense ain't never been good though that's the thing i know i know they gotta go way back to the no name to the no name or the killer bees or something but you know way way back in the 70s hold on now they have we have good players we have jalen ramsey holland is good like we just don't don't have a solid group that plays well all together. Y'all should have kept
Starting point is 00:53:49 Christian Wilkins. And who did we get? We got Chop Robinson, right? Can we bring a D-tackle in? Who's the D-tackle we brought in? But a lot of your guys, remember Phillips, Achilles, you got Chum, he tore his ACL. I mean, you had a lot of your guys, remember Phillips, Achilles, you got Chubb,
Starting point is 00:54:05 he tore his ACL. I mean, you had a lot of injuries on your defensive line. Okay, you re-signed Ram, great addition, but Xavier Howard is gone. Yeah. You lost some guys that were key contributors, and I don't know if Chubb is back, I don't know if Phillips is back because they got those injuries happened so late in the season, don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Take a little time to get back. Yeah, yeah. But Tua, 28-38, 234, one touchdown. He ran the ball 25 times for a buck 50. So you average six yards a carry. But two or three times he lost one. Jackson. So y'all had you,
Starting point is 00:54:56 you recovered them all. But you're gonna have to get better defensively, Ocho. Yeah. Y'all gotta have to get better defensively. And if we don't get better defensively, Ocho. You're going to have to get better defensively. And if we don't get better defensively, that means all the offense I'm talking about, simply because I'm from Miami. Obviously, I grew up a Dolphin fan.
Starting point is 00:55:15 But if we don't get better defensively, offensively, they have to be that much better. No different than the Jets situation. If Aaron Rodgers is playing bad, the support has to be much better than Aaron Rodgers is playing. Same thing for the Dolphins. Kyler Murray, 26-36, 3-0-7,
Starting point is 00:55:33 two touchdowns. He had two receivers go over 100 yards. Tight end. You know, National Tight Ends Day is a thing because the tight ends went haywire today. Tight ends went haywire today. You saw Kittle? Kittle went crazy. What did he finish with? Kyle Pitts went crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:49 McBride went crazy. Laporta went crazy. A lot of tight ends did their thing today. McBride, 9 for $1.24. Marvin Harrison Jr., 6 for $1.11 in the tub. Yeah. Wilson has 5 for $31 in the tub. Wilson has five for 31 in a tub. So the cards look really good today.
Starting point is 00:56:10 They didn't run the ball great. Average two yards, about three yards, about three yards of carry. But it was enough. But Kyler was sensational when he absolutely had to be. And you see what happened. Cardinals win 28-27, 4-4 in the NFC West. That division is going to be very, very interesting because Seattle got thumped, but they're like right there.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Now, if the 49ers can get some of their guys back, Ocho, that's going to be a very, very, very, very, very interesting division. The Buffalo Bills delivered a decisive 31-10 win on the road over Seattle. Josh Allen tossed a pair of touchdown passes. James Cook rushed for two scores. The Bills never trailed in the game and posted a season-high 445 yards on their way to a third consecutive victory. Buffalo's defense limited Seattle to season lows in scoring and yardage.
Starting point is 00:57:06 233 total yards and 32 yards rushing. Seattle dropped their fourth game in their last five. Damn. Damn. Goddamn, Josh. Josh was balling today, boy.
Starting point is 00:57:20 As long as he doesn't turn it over, they don't have a chance. He threw his first interception. Oh, his first pick this year, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. In his last 300 and something, I might be wrong. James Cook, 17,
Starting point is 00:57:36 carries for a buck 11, two tubs. They ran the ball 34 times, 164. They passed it 34 times, 24, 34, 283, two touchdowns, one interception. But it's his legs, man. Yeah. Because, you know, he can take off, Ocho. He can take off.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And they got design runs for him, too. Yes, yes. Geno was 21 of 29, two touchdowns. No, no touchdowns, one interception. Not a bad touchdown-interception ratio, but the 17 carries for 32 yards. That puts a lot. When you can't run the ball,
Starting point is 00:58:10 that puts a lot of pressure on your quarterback to just drop back there and try to throw. There ain't been a whole lot of guys that can just drop back X amount of times and throw you to a victory, especially consistently. But Buffalo looked really good. They're 6-2
Starting point is 00:58:25 clearly since the top the AFC East the Seahawks are 4-4 very tight I think Arizona is 4-4 and I think the 49ers are 4-4 also right and the Rams hell might be 4-4
Starting point is 00:58:42 everybody might be 4-4 that day on the vision okay Rams are three or four. Okay. Three or four. So everybody's right there. Hold it up. Yep. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yo. I just need to know. Who? Who keep making these statues. So that way I can make sure he don't touch gold James I don't know who the hell that is right there who is that it's not that bad is it
Starting point is 00:59:11 hey I don't know listen that might be D-Wade senior I don't know who I don't know who responsible for that that that fool that that statue but the face how could you not. How could you not just look at examples before you made that?
Starting point is 00:59:30 I think somebody lied. Somebody told me, oh, I'm a sculptor. Because you know how Ocho, you know how people be doing that sign language and they be doing all kind of things
Starting point is 00:59:40 and they be saying nothing? That's sculptor. I don't know who told him. He must have been a fan. He must have built sandcastles as a kid because they know what bad couple, Ocho. That didn't even look bad. It looked nothing like it. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Congratulations, D-Wade. Look, I don't want to, you know, congratulations. Well-deserved, Wade County. But that don't look like D-Wade. Did you see, you saw D. Wade reaction? That was my reaction. I was like, who is that? I tell you what, Ocho,
Starting point is 01:00:12 take that three Miami Heat jersey off and just poll everybody. Who is this statue of? I guarantee you not one person would be able to tell you that's D. Wade. That's criminal. Yeah, that wasn't done well. It wasn't done well.
Starting point is 01:00:27 He ain't going to get no more work. Yeah. You know, whoever did it, I was just going to say that. I know he feel bad. I know. No, he shouldn't feel bad because he saw it before he even revealed it. He should have never turned that in. He should never turn that in.
Starting point is 01:00:43 They should have got the guy that did that. I think his name is Blair Boswell. He does a lot of the bus for the Hall of Fame, right? That's who should have done it. Yeah, because I don't know. See, Ocho, this is the wood version obviously
Starting point is 01:01:06 they give you a wood version and they keep look at that the part everything I got a cut I got a cut up under my right eye
Starting point is 01:01:19 right they got the cut on that too yes absolutely you see I got the fade they got the waves of that thing all right i don't know you ain't got no ways but okay go ahead i ain't got no ways now but i had waves they took it off the picture i don't know man i'm looking at that thing. I'm like, who is that? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I think that might be the one. I think that might be the same guy that did Dr. King's monument up in D.C. He don't need to get no more work either. You know what's funny? You probably won't remember this.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Cristiano had a statue that was made. Horrible. It looked nothing like I saw. Yeah, I remember that. Oh, it's poor. Man, that thing looked terrible. It did nothing like I saw. Yeah, I remember that. Oh, it's poor. Man, that thing looked terrible. It did, Ocho, man.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I think these people lying. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. That man looked at that and said, man, that look like deep, man. Yeah. And he going to talk about some hands. He said, we really try to. You could have no hands on there. But I have it look like deep man yeah no and he gonna talk about some hands he said we really try to you could have no hands on there but have it look like me right as a matter of fact give me pause just make sure the face right that's it that's all that matter that's all that matter especially
Starting point is 01:02:36 when you come through a statue the whole point is to get it as close to the actual person as possible and they went they all the way off. That ain't even close. Yeah. Yeah. So, who statue you think was worse, Ocho? Cristiano Ronaldo's or D-Wade's? Cristiano way worse. Oh, they might be tired, boy. They might be tired. Them two.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Ocho, they're terrible. They bad. They got to be. If I'm D-Wade, I'm saying, look, just take my head off for the time being until we get that right. Yeah,ade, I'm going to say, look, just take my head off for the time being. Right. Until we get that right. Until we do it again? Yeah, man. I'm going to have a headless statue.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Ain't no way I'm going to leave that out there in front. I don't know what they play. American Airlines? What they got? What's the reason? They changed it. They changed the name. I think it might be FTX.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I could be wrong. I'm not sure. Yeah, man. I was not sure. Yeah, man. I was like, oh my goodness. That was congratulations D-Wade. Bro, well deserved. Three championships.
Starting point is 01:03:37 The Olympics. Everything that you accomplished. The statue was well deserved. So I don't want you to ever think that we taking a slide at you. But bro, that thing don't look like you, bro. You know that. Youerved. So I don't want you to ever think that we're taking a slight at you. Nah. That thing don't look like you, bro. You know that. You know that. It don't.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Now it's time. Last segment of the day. Q and A. Hold on. Let me use the bathroom real quick. Go ahead. Let me just start the first question. Matt said, oh, the entire game would be different if the Ravens' D wasn't alleged to catch an interception.
Starting point is 01:04:06 The Ravens need to start trading players. Hell, even the Ravens' wide receivers were dropping passes. That should be easy. Yeah, I don't know. I think, was it Bateman that dropped one? I think he said he lost it in the sun. Those 1 o'clock games get tricky, especially when the sun is at a certain angle.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, it does get tricky. But you got to make plays. You got to make those catches. And normally, drop interceptions, they normally come back and bite you in the butt because you had an opportunity to get off the field and you didn't make the play. And it comes down to making plays when the when the opportunity presents
Starting point is 01:04:48 itself so uh i'm sure hamilton is i mean they're all world safety he's as good as they that we have in this league and uh he won't probably have an easier one and uh he just dropped it took his eye off the ball but here's the thing if those guys could really catch, Delano would be wide receiver to running back. That's what DBs are. Most DBs don't have great hands. Unless, you know, Trayvon Diggs has hands, but he was a wide receiver. He was a college wide receiver that they moved to DB. They're talking about the Ravens defense.
Starting point is 01:05:20 He said the Ravens weren't allergic to catching interceptions. They probably would have won this game. He said the Ravens weren't allergic to catching interceptions. They probably would have won this game. He said the Ravens need to start trading players. Hell, even the way Ravens wide receivers were dropping passes, that should have been easy catches. I saw the one with Bateman where the sun comes in his eyes. Yeah. That's the worst.
Starting point is 01:05:38 That is the worst feeling. I hate that. Hotslinging Slasher said said do you think they should blow it up I'm tired of the Jets losing blow up what what they gonna blow up hell it's already a dumpster fire hey who's worse right now
Starting point is 01:05:59 the Jets or the Panthers the Panthers the Panthers are worse the Panthers. The Panthers. The Panthers are worse. The Panthers are worse. Okay. Well, actually, the Panthers had no expectations. The Jets had expectations.
Starting point is 01:06:14 That's the problem. The Jets had humongous expectations, and they're not living up to those expectations. Living up? Not even close. No. And that's what happens on show i mean you fry ahead and you're like oh spark nah nah this ain't on robert sala this ain't no thing you hack it right i mean although although i think i thought robert sala had coached had uh
Starting point is 01:06:43 big was a defensive coordinator well enough to earn the head coaching job. And this is not about me standing. Because, look, your judge don't win the losses. That's what it comes down to. And he didn't win nearly enough games. But the grace that they gave him is like, bro, we have failed you when it comes to a quarterback. Yeah. So what are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:07:04 We're going to go out and get you a quarterback. Well, they got him a quarterback and it's still failing. Yeah. How is that his fault? Has Rodgers looked any better since the firing of Solomon? Has he looked any
Starting point is 01:07:20 better? Has he looked any better since Nathaniel Hackett hasn't called plays? Damn. So what do you think? Absolutely. Should they blow it up? I mean, no. Probably not. They'll probably
Starting point is 01:07:41 get another run. K probably thinking like, hell, I could have stayed I could have stayed in Vegas I'd have been I'd have kept I'd have kept a lot more of my money because he tackled the New Yorkers hit different than ones in Vegas different different uh hey Tim Lee said Bengals are trash
Starting point is 01:08:02 Ocho a talent discrepancy between them and the Eagles today it was insane hey who said that Tim Lee hey Tim Lee hey show us some respect alright you not
Starting point is 01:08:19 Tim Lee you not even the Eagles fan show us some respect Brandon Holman said oh I think once you I think you Tim Lee, you're not even an Eagles fan. Show us some respect. Brandon Holman said, I think you said once the Rams won the trade because they got the Super Bowl. If golf wins the Super Bowl in Detroit, what do you think they won? Yeah, I would say
Starting point is 01:08:36 the Rams they both won, but you got to look at, okay, what else did they get outside of that? So now we got to look at the picks because they got a couple of first round picks. And one of those picks might've been Jamir Gibbs. One of those picks might've been Jamison Williams.
Starting point is 01:08:54 So now Ocho, we got to look, we got to project. Right, right. They got a quarterback for the next five years and they got a running back and a wide receiver. So,
Starting point is 01:09:04 uh, what did they get? Those picks? Cause I think they got a couple for the next five years, and they got a running back and a wide receiver. So, what did they get, those picks? Because I think they got a couple of first-round picks. But it's hard to lose a trade when you win the Super Bowl. Yeah. But if Detroit were to win one, and we get Jamison Williams, and or Jameer Gibbs. Right. But I don't think the Rams would.
Starting point is 01:09:38 So who was the first runner? Do we know who they selected? They got Jameer Gibbs and Sam Laporta. So if they win a Super Bowl, who you think won this trade, Ocho? I think the Lions are feeling pretty good. Yeah. And they got Jamison Williams. Wait, Jamison come back next week?
Starting point is 01:10:00 No, week after next, huh? Yeah. Okay. No, they put up 50-50. They put up a 50-burger today, next, huh? Yeah. Okay. They put up 50, 50. They put up a 50 burger today, man. 50. Yeah. A 50 piece. It's not a video game. This ain't Madden.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Bona. Shannon, time to consider Sean Payton as coach of the year. Winning record with the rookie quarterback of the average roster. I can't say you're wrong if you're right. He keep going like this, Ocho. Ain't nobody had this. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Ain't nobody had this. No, no one. I can't even argue with you, but it's too soon to be thinking about coach of the year. Stephanie Warfield. Today, Slayton Daniels and the Commanders won a game with a hail mary during your playing days do you remember your team winning an epic game uh yes we beat we beat
Starting point is 01:10:53 uh the washington commanders they weren't the commanders then obviously they were that team uh rod smith caught a hail mary on daryl green for real. For real? We did a three-by-one. Put Rod Smith backside by himself. Right. They left Darryl Green over there by himself. John threw a jump ball. Rod jumped up over the top of him and caught it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:15 As a rookie. Huge height discrepancy. Yep. So, yeah. I don't know i have we have won a game on a play like that i don't recall us winning any any plays on hill marys terence g what are y'all thinking about stevenson did stevenson did his job he was the one who batted the ball oh joe you said that was his job right no bat the ball. Ocho, you said that was his job, right? No, bat the ball down.
Starting point is 01:11:48 The ball down. He supposed to have been in position to do this. He came from the side. He wasn't supposed to be on the side. He was supposed to be in the trail. Terrence, I get it. That's your team. He messed up.
Starting point is 01:12:06 He messed up. He messed up. TC the Trucker said, hey, Okinocho, what do you believe is the most important lesson sports has taught you about life and how do you apply those lessons in your daily lives? That's a good one.
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Starting point is 01:13:12 there's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Starting point is 01:14:32 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You have to get along with people. You have to problem solve with people because every day is not going to be great. And, and, and, and, you know, when working in close proximity with people that, you know, you deal, learn how to get along with people. You find a lot about people. I mean, some people that you think you wouldn't have anything in common with, you find that you have the most in common
Starting point is 01:15:20 with. I wish people just, you know, took time to get to know someone. Now we don't do that. You know, oh, you like that? Well, I don't like that. So therefore I don't like you. Oh, you like him? Okay. You like him. I don't like him. So therefore I don't like you. That's where we are right now. I wish we got back to learning and understanding each other, having the difference of opinion. Right. But now we can't, we can't even have that. We can But now we can't even have that. We can't even have an open and honest conversation about anything. There's so much disinformation that's going around. There's so much, you know, everything is so politicized. It's just hard now.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I think for the most part, Ocho, with the way it's going now, you see more and more people in sports in locker rooms talking about politics talking about religion talking about things that was never talked about in the locker room but that's
Starting point is 01:16:18 where we are now Ocho go ahead politics is one of the things that I like to stay away from because it's a never ending debate. Regardless, depending on who you're talking to. And I don't like the fact that people. They splintered friendships when you don't when you two don't align with the same thing. Some Democratic, somebody Republican.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Oh, well, you're a Democrat. You know what? Well, I ain't talking to you. You know, I don't have respect for you anymore. Or you Republican. And it's the same way you can, you can agree to, you can agree to disagree. It's okay. It's okay to have different beliefs. It's okay to have different views on something or whatever the topic may be, just not politics in general. But I mean, there's this, this era we're in right now, where if you don't align your core values and what you believe in align with someone else.
Starting point is 01:17:10 It's a problem. It's an issue. We're all not going to feel the same. We're all not going to feel the same way. We're not going to like the same stuff. And that's just the reality of life. Yeah, it is. And now because it's become, I mean, it's no longer like you have to pick a side. You gotta stand with some. You gotta stand with one or the other.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Right. I just hate like... I don't... Look. I might not agree with everybody's stance or this or that, but it's your right to your opinion. The problem that I have is that when we have a stance or an opinion, they say stick to basketball, stick to football, shut up and dribble.
Starting point is 01:17:57 But when they have it, oh, that's great. Let's have them on. Let's hear their side of it. I got no problem. I got no problem. I might not agree with what Harrison Buckner said but I didn't hear anybody say he should shut up and kick a football
Starting point is 01:18:10 when John Stockton said what he said I didn't hear anybody say that he should shut up and dribble a basketball that's my only thing if you're going to allow them to say what they want to say please allow LeBron allow KD allow those others or whomever it may be to say their they want to say, please allow LeBron, allow KD, allow those others or whomever it may
Starting point is 01:18:25 be to say their piece. That's it. Right. Freedom of freedom. You know, the First Amendment right is colorless. That's how I feel about that. But hey, to each his own. JP, whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Rico Didell was signing fan gear and stuff pregame. The Spike report said he was sick as hell. Does this give more juice that Zeke is Jerry's favorite and favorite by Jerry in their own, in the owner room? Look, I mean, if he's sick, I mean, when he's sick, I mean, he had his ass standing on the sidelines. So I'm trying to say like sick,
Starting point is 01:19:04 because normally like when you're sick, Ocho, they don't want you getting around the team because they don't want you to get anybody else sick. They're sick, yeah. But if I'm not mistaken, like, he was on the sideline, wasn't he? So maybe he had a stomach something. But even if you're a stomach bug, I don't want that to, you know, to infest the team
Starting point is 01:19:22 and then get somebody else sick. So normally, when somebody's sick, they're like, okay, you go home. I don't even know what, maybe he got sick Saturday night. Maybe he got, you know what I'm saying, or something like that.
Starting point is 01:19:34 So without me really knowing, but normally when guys are sick, they don't want you around the team because you're in such close proximity. Yep. They normally try to keep you isolated because they don't want to get everybody else sick. Eric, oh, man, y'all got these names.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I don't know. Mr. Sharp, with that last trip, P.I., what technical changes do the Cowboys need to make to turn things around? P.S. Ocho, can't see me at FIFA. You said there were no... I asked you that earlier on the show. What changes can the Cowboys need to make to turn things around. P.S. Ocho, can't see me at FIFA. You said there were no... I asked you that earlier on the show. What changes can the Cowboys make?
Starting point is 01:20:09 You said there is none because they don't have the personnel. That's the only thing you can do. That's the only turn around they're going to do. They ain't going to do nothing else. They got what they got, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. They got what they got. Ocho. Yeah, yeah. They got what they got. They're not, Ocho, they're not good.
Starting point is 01:20:31 I mean, think about it. Okay, they lost by, Ocho, they were down by three scores. Yeah. In the second half, they were down three scores. And see, what happens is, is that you see, when the game was out of reach, the thought of out of reach, look how Dak played. Now, people are going to say,
Starting point is 01:20:49 ah, Turpin dropped a pass that could have, okay, Fred Warner dropped an interception that would have killed that drive. So, I'm just waiting on y'all to say that. So, I'm just going to go ahead and nip it in the bud. When you say Kevon Turpin dropped that pass, say the same thing about Fred Warner dropped that one too.
Starting point is 01:21:05 They're not good. They're not good. you say Kavon Turpin dropped that pass, say the same thing about Fred Warner dropped that one too. Right. They're not good. They're not good. They're a one-dimensional team. Dak, the CD. They can't run the football. They can't stop the run. And they don't really... I mean, the sack that Purdy got, I don't know what the hell the running back was doing. Your job is to go to the
Starting point is 01:21:21 hip of the tackle. Where the hell were you going? You didn't go to the hip of the tackle. You let hell were you going? You didn't go to the hip of the tackle. You let 13 run right by you and hit the quarterback in the back. Brock Purdy did a great job of holding on to the ball. That's the thing. I know Bobby T was in it. Bobby T was in his ass when he got to the sideline. So what the hell are you
Starting point is 01:21:37 doing? You go to the hip of the tackle. You close the distance. Let me tell you something about pass blocking. Somebody that did it from the backfield. Ocho, what you want to do is close the distance. Because I don something about pass blocking somebody that did it from the backfield Ocho what you want to do is close the distance because I don't want you to get a running start I will
Starting point is 01:21:48 and I know my response I'm going to give you one way to go I'm not going to have you doing all this right here and you got me doing all this no
Starting point is 01:21:55 I'm going to give you one way to go I'm going to get to the hip of the tackle boom okay come through me right
Starting point is 01:22:00 come through me because if you try to run the field I'm going to push your ass up the field to get a quarterback an opportunity to step up in the pocket but I'm not gonna give you a beeline to hit my quarterback in the back
Starting point is 01:22:12 I think a lot of times I will say this God did give me nerves of steel when I played cause I understood what my leverage was and I understood what he was trying to do and where I was at a disadvantage. And so I think that's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I think a lot of times guys get in situations, Ocho, and they panic. Right. I think he panicked. I'm sure he, you know, they have the blocking drills with the dummies, the linebackers try to, you know, move on it.
Starting point is 01:22:44 You go to the butt of the tackle, and you make the guy run around you, or you make him come through you. If he tries to come through you, you drop your hips, and you press him. If he tries to go around you, you ride his ass off the field. You give the quarterback an opportunity to step up in the pocket. Right. Oh, Joe, there's a video going viral of Trayvon Diggs confronting Cowboy reporter Mike Leslie,
Starting point is 01:23:11 who was critical of Diggs' coverage during one of the Niners' touchdown drives in the third quarter. What is Trayvon Diggs doing on this play? Leslie wrote on Twitter, Diggs confronted the reporter in the tunnel saying, that's what you took from that? You don't know football. You can't do nothing that I do.
Starting point is 01:23:29 You can't go out there and do nothing. Stay in your lane, buddy. Talk about these nuts. Ocho. Ocho, what's going on with the Cowboys, Ocho? I don't know, man. I don't know. Especially, listen, reporter tweeting something like that, you know, it's right after a game.
Starting point is 01:23:52 The Cowboys lost. Players' heads are hot. He hasn't had a chance to cool down. And it just, listen, it's an emotional answer from Trey. I can understand his frustrations. I'm sure the reporter understands his frustrations. And that's it. So I understand. Guys.
Starting point is 01:24:20 What you got? What you got? What you got? What you got? Is he not allowed to ask yeah what was tray but what was tray bonds responsibility on this you know he was trying to be funny he was trying to be funny it was probably it was probably he probably picked a bad play who was he might have been out of position you know okay you know you know how do you know how reporters do they oh joe Joe. They post the worst thing to get the most interaction. So let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:24:51 So a reporter's not allowed to ask any questions. Only questions when you play well. He is, he is. He is, most definitely. So he makes a play and he asks, how did Trayvon Diggs make this play? You know what? I wish I could see it.
Starting point is 01:25:07 You don't have a picture of it? Let me see if I can find it. No, hell no. We ain't finna show it. Why? Why you can't show it? Oh, man. Ocho, he was jogging on a play.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Oh. He was jogging. He was really jogging on a play, Ocho, he was jogging on a play. Oh. He was jogging. He was really jogging on a play, Ocho. Okay. On the touchdown, on the pass to Kittle. Yeah, I can't see him. Damn. Where would you pull it up at?
Starting point is 01:25:43 So he could. Because we can't show it, Ocho. Right, okay, okay. We already in a bad position. Right, I'm going to find it on Twitter. Huh? I'll ask you to send it to you. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Thank you, thank you. And you take a look at that. Now, you tell me. Now, this, okay. Thank you, thank you. And you take a look at that. Now, you tell me. Now, this is a team that's struggling defensively. Now, you tell me if that effort good enough to get it done. Okay, yeah. Okay, I see what you mean. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I'm going to tell you, yeah. Is that effort. You're struggling as a defense. Right. You tell me that effort. Tell the people what you just saw, Ocho. Yeah. Can I tell you what he did?
Starting point is 01:26:29 Am I allowed to say it? I'm not making excuses for him. He was jogging so the two people closer to Kittle could make the tackle. That's all that. Look at it real quick. You'll see what I mean. I looked at it. He's jogging. Yeah. He's jogging.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Yeah, he's jogging, but, you know. He's hoping somebody else make the tackle. Yeah, the two that were close. Yeah, I understand what you mean, though. Yeah, you can't do that. You're struggling on the defense. See, that's the difference. See, that's the difference in winning and losing.
Starting point is 01:27:07 A team that winning, I tell you what, hold on. When Pearsall, when he broke that run, look how Conley block it. When Debo make them runs, look how they block it. You see the difference? But y'all let y'all make excuses. Y'all gonna make excuses for him. Y'all gonna say, well, Shannon, if that was such and such, if he was this color, you wouldn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:27:32 So I'm gonna let y'all keep doing it. I'm gonna let y'all keep making excuses for everybody, and they're gonna keep losing. Ocho. Yeah. Vivian Ekeme says, can the Cowboys still make the playoffs? Can. Sure, they have Cowboys still make the playoffs? Can? Sure, they have the ability to.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Will they? Yeah. Oh, they will make the playoffs. No, that's the better question. Can they? Sure, they could. Oh, yeah. Sure, they could.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Will they? Right, right, right, right. Hey, they'd have to turn it around. They'd have to have a complete 180. It's just a bad look. Yeah. It's just a bad look. I mean, and I don't think, if you go back and think about it,
Starting point is 01:28:23 let me see what the reporter asking. What is Trayvon doing on this playlist? He tweeted it. Yeah, he tweeted it. But think about it. He did this after, hold on. How did Trayvon get his phone so quick? So he going straight to IG.
Starting point is 01:28:43 He going straight to social media to see what's being said. Or somebody sent it to him. Yeah, probably somebody showed him in the locker room or something. Oh, Joe. Is that not a reasonable question? Man, what they doing on this player?
Starting point is 01:29:00 Yeah, it is. I mean, I'm just trying. Man, these guys, bro. Man, y'all got sports, guys. Y'all got to toughen up. Come on now. Y'all got to let people do their job.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'm not making any excuses for him. I'm just saying as someone who played the game of football, seeing Kittle's going down the sideline, there are two people that are closer than Diggs. In his mind, I'm expecting him to make a tackle, so I was slowing down. He just should have been going all out. He should have been going all out.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Yeah. See, that's how you get beat. See, that's the loser thing, because you're expecting somebody else to do something then when it happened then so what happens it all it does is make you look bad because he's loafing ain't no other way around it just because you expect somebody to do something that doesn't mean that you don't bust your butt right he's loafing there ain't no other way around it. Anybody that looks at that, y'all can see.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Y'all can see what has happened. He's loafing. There ain't no excuse. I ain't trying to beat the man down, but y'all take a look at that for yourself. We'll really talk about this tomorrow. And y'all let me know what y'all think. Do y'all think that Trayvon Diggs was given the kind of effort that
Starting point is 01:30:24 you need to win? Maybe this offers a lot to why they're not winning, because maybe it's that type of effort more times than not that's not being given. Or should I say that's being given? That's that's piss poor. That's and that's why, Lord, I, I used to tell my mom all the time, Mom, you need to tell me my mom had a last kid at 25. I said, Mom, you need to tell me you couldn't wait until you were 31, 32, so I could have got somebody's money.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Ocho, with my personality and how wired, I couldn't play with these cats. These cats don't care nothing about no win. They don't care nothing about no win. They care about clicks. They care about getting the bag. And they get in the bag without having to win. It drives me crazy. It drives me crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I mean, he got mad because he loafing. How the hell you get mad? That's like if I steal something. Man, you ain't had to arrest me. The man doing his job. If you was doing... Let me ask you a question. Do you think that reporter tweets that
Starting point is 01:31:31 if Trayvon Diggs busting his ass? No. It would have been nothing to pick at. Nothing to Nick pick at. That's the thing. Ocho, my job is not to give you something to talk about if you give me
Starting point is 01:31:48 this is what we know about people Ocho if you give them something to talk about what they gonna do Ocho talk about it keep people out your business keep them out now yes they gonna try to figure ish out
Starting point is 01:32:06 yeah they're gonna maybe even make up some stuff but you know the truth come on digs you better than that i know you better than that bro you don't want that on tape that's a bad look because your teammates gonna see going to see that. That's the thing. That's the guys you don't want to let down. The fans, yeah. I mean, hey, they see what they see. Blah, blah, blah. But you don't want the guys in the locker room to see that kind of effort.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Bro, come on, man. You're better than that. Damn. I hate it, bro. I just couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't, though, Joe. I ain't going to lie. just couldn't I couldn't I couldn't no joke
Starting point is 01:32:47 I ain't gonna I couldn't I care too much yeah I care I cared I cared entirely too effing much
Starting point is 01:32:55 it bothered me when we lost I ain't wanna see nobody it wasn't no kiki keying I took my black ass home why I wanna be out eating I don't want somebody
Starting point is 01:33:04 to see my face right hell I didn't I ain't go I don't want somebody to see my face. Hell, I didn't really go out when we won. I damn sure wasn't going out when we lost. To do what? To talk about what? Lord have mercy. Come on. Come on, guys. Work with us. Work with us.
Starting point is 01:33:24 OBN23 said, Jerry needs to sell the team and hire Troy as the GM. One thing we know for certain, the Cowboys will be in Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones probably got that in his estate. The Cowboys cannot be sold.
Starting point is 01:33:40 That's his pride and joy. Next to his kids, Cowboys. That's how he and joy. Yeah, absolutely. Next to his kids. Cowboys. That's how he's known. That's how he got on the map. Because they've got a lot of guys that got way more money than Jerry, but they're not as known as Jerry.
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