Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Davante Adams’ wishlist, Stefon Diggs drama, Anthony Richardson injury prone

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap week 5 of the NFL season. Top stories include Davante Adams’ trade wishlist, Buffalo Bills saying they didn’t need Stefon Diggs, Indianapolis Colts QB Anthony Richardson being injury prone and much more!03:18 - Davante Adams trade wishlist07:55 - Jeremy Fowler releases article about Stefon Diggs’ time with the Bills20:00 - Anthony Richardson talks about being injury prone(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See DKNG.com slash promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Ocho, if Devontae Adams gets his wish, he'll eventually be a member of the New York Jets, playing with his friend and four-time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers. But he's also open to playing with several other teams. The New Orleans Saints, Derek Carr, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Dallas Cowboys.

The San Francisco 49ers are among the teams that have inquired about the six-time Pro Bowler. Our places, Adams would be. Obviously, he loved his being to Bay. He's from the area, so he'd love to be back out there. Where do you think Devontae ends up? Listen, the two things that make sense. For one, the Cowboys don't have the money.

They don't have the cash space. What makes the sense is playing with derrick carr out with the saints and what probably is going to happen is him playing with aaron rogers in new york he's familiar with the offense he's familiar with the quarterback he's familiar with the officer coordinator so it's a just you go there and you plug in and you play right now because he knows the offense aaron knows him and it take them who knows how long just to develop that chemistry that they've already had throughout the years and to me it makes the most sense especially the offensive perspective if you watch the jest against the broncos with them really having no arsenal weapons outside of gary wilson to throw to think about what you do if you add

davante ad Adams and give him his old weapon back. Then you have Gary Wilson. It takes some of the pressure off of him. I want Gary Wilson. No, you don't get to keep Gary Wilson. I want Gary Wilson. You'll have to ship him to the Raiders. Oh, no. You can't do that. Oh, no. You can't get him.

Oh, no. You can't do that. Listen, what the Jets can do, oh, the Raiders, oh, you have a problem? Okay, we'll give you Hassan Reddick. Now you got Matt Crosby, you got Hass can't do that. Listen, what the Jets can do. Oh, the Raiders. Oh, you have a problem? Okay, we can get Hassan Reddick. Now you got Matt Crosby. You got Hassan Reddick. You don't turn that down. He ain't got no money.

He ain't got no money. He want a new contract. He said he want to go back to Philly. I don't know what they're going to do, but they're going to make it happen. I think it's going to happen before. It's tomorrow's Friday, right? Yeah. When is the trade deadline?

The trade deadline, I think, is in November. I think they pushed it back. Yeah, but see, they don't need to waste no time. And I don't think knowing Mark Davis and knowing Antonio Pierce, Antonio Pierce is going to stand on business. Antonio got time for that. You know, if you understand who he is, the type of man he is outside of coaching.

Oh, I ain't got time for this. This is becoming, I don't want to use the word distraction. I'm not going to use that word but he just want to get things expedited as fast as possible so everybody so both sides are happy so I want to see Demonte Adams on the field and I would love to see him in the

uniform or is it even room for him over in New Orleans anyway where Chris Olave Rasheed Shaheed is already there I'm not sure who the number three might be, but for him, I think the better fit from an offensive perspective is being with Aaron Rogers. And, and then from a productive standpoint, being able to put up the numbers you used to put up will also be there if he

goes with Aaron as well. Yeah. But whatever reason here, Gary Wilson, Aaron and Gary Wilson hadn't been able to get on the same page. We saw them on the sidelines doing training camp, having discussions about where Aaron wanted to be, Garrett Wilson where he was, where he thought the ball should be. So they haven't quite got on the same page as of yet. That's years.

Normally it takes years for a quarterback and a wide receiver to develop that chemistry where they tell to uh they understand each other without saying a word it's just a look i know where the ball is going to be i where i need to be i know where he's going to be he knows where the ball is going to be things like that it takes time that is it you know it's yeah you can work on it in minicamp and you try to strengthen that in training camp, and then hopefully in preseason. But Ocho, they ain't do none of those things.

You didn't have the minicamp because the last minicamp, I don't think Aaron came. In training camp, they tried to work through it. But then in camp, normally, Ocho, when we have a problem in practice, we get an opportunity to work on it in the preseason game. But now nobody's playing the preseason, so we don't get a chance to work on it. It's different.

It's different. Hopefully, Devontae, I like Devontae a lot. Hopefully, he gets this situation resolved. He gets to go somewhere. He probably like, damn, probably should have stayed in Green Bay. Jordan Love. It's but no, it's a young man's game now. It's a young man's game.

Obviously, he made the right decision to go play with Derek Carr. The right decision to go play with Derek Carr, obviously, is his college teammate from Fresno State, and just so happened they decided to ship Derek Carr off to New Orleans. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN posted a long article about Steph Stefan Diggs and Buffalo Bill's divorce.

This divorce did not come out of nowhere. Tremendous player, a team source said, but the offense didn't need him anymore. He's super smart. And if you sugarcoat it with him and you're not 100 percent, he'll see through it. And the source said Diggs approach and he remembers everything you say. You always have to worry about how he feels as a bill team source said that words on the locker room coaches and scouts on Minnesota staff during Diggs tenure.

They're often referred to Diggs experience as a rollercoaster on the field on field brilliance and off the field irritability that can elicit discomfort within the football building. It can be a lot. He might throw a helmet. He'll wear on your quarterback. But find me a premier receiver that is not a diva.

Listen. Ojo, you played the position. I have a question. You were great at the position. Go ahead. We in week five. Stephon Diggs now plays for the Houston Texans.

Why does his name continue to come up with Mr. Fowler or anybody else that's a part of the Bills organization? Now you talk about you didn't need to Stephon Diggs, right? Please tell me how they look when they played against the Ravens. Please tell me when Josh Allen couldn't put a Superman cape on and need a viable threat to go to when you're playing against a really good defense that might be top three in the NFL right now, I might add. Who did he have he can go to and say, you know what? I need you to get open right now. Come hell or high water. I can't scheme you open.

I can't help you get open. I can't put you in motion. I want to line you up. It's third and five. I need you to win for me right now. I don't want to play Superman. I just need you to go and get it out in the mud off the muscle what happens when you don't have that you can only scheme people open so long this is no disrespect to the bills receiving what they have i like what they have right now i like it especially keon coleman he's a rookie but he's

not he's not there yet he's not there yet. He's not there yet. I like what they have, but still, Stephon Diggs is a top premier receiver, no matter what people may say, no matter what people may think. Look at the numbers that him and Josh Allen put up together in his tenure there. The first four years, look at the numbers they put up. It's not a mistake. Of course, you're going to be upset when he doesn't get the ball. You know what the first thing they do to you? Well, you don't have the stats. You don't have the numbers to go with the salary that you're making.

That's the first thing they use against you. Well, if you look at your numbers, you're not putting up the same type of numbers. Now, we think it's time for you to take a pay cut. That's what we think. So they use all this. Man, listen, man. Stephon Diggs is going to the Houston Texans. That's it.

Stop bringing him up. Why are they continuing to do so? He's already there. I just took a different approach, JoJo. I was like, hey. I think the thing is what bothered me

is that they hadn't come to me early in the game. It's the third quarter. Fourth quarter. And they ask you, hey, what bothered me is that they hadn't come to me early in the game. It's the third quarter, fourth quarter, and they ask you, hey, what you like? No, don't ask me that. No. Remember how y'all said y'all was going to spread it around this week? Keep spreading it around.

I'm good. Right, right, right. Because I'm going to walk upstairs and I'm going to knock on Alex's door on Monday and I'm going to get that check. Right. Don't ask me. You said let y'all do y'all job. I'm going to let y and I'm going to knock on Alex's door on Monday and I'm going to get that check. Don't ask me. You said let y'all do y'all job. I'm going to let y'all do y'all job. Because if I'm doing y'all job,

y'all don't pay me for this. I'm going to make the same amount of money, Ocho, whether you throw me 12 balls or you throw me one. Now, the likelihood of us winning when you throw me 12 greatly increases our chance thank you come on now take your time but i'm not i'm not i'm not i i'm not fit to be mad i ain't throwing no helmet

i ain't tearing them that's the same thing i said the only time john really got mad at me is that when i needed five yards to get a thousand000. Back then, tight ends didn't get 1,000 yards easy. I had 995 at the half. I had six catches for a buck, 15 bucks, 16. Two touchdowns. We got 14 points. We lose the game in overtime. I ain't catching other points.

He said, what? I said, bro, I ain't never come to you and tell you. He said, no. That's your job. So, no. I'm not going to be... Because I understand how it works. And I tell people this all the

time. No matter... And it's applicable because, for the most part, I had, you know, manual labor jobs when I was growing up. And they're going to need people. They're going to need people to pick up the pecans or clip the onions, load tomatoes, the bell. Hey, whatever.

They need that. But when you work these people's jobs and there are other people out there that want those jobs, they're going to tolerate you until they get replaced. Always, always, always. And like you said, now you can speed up that process.

You can speed up that process because you and I both know T.O. should have been a one helmet or two helmet guy. That's it. That's how great he was. The same thing with Randy. He should have been a one or two helmet guy. Yeah. That's it. That's how great he was. Same thing. The same thing with Randy.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And as great as they were, what happened, Ochoa? They tolerated. They tolerated enough. And the funny thing about it, even though you can't replace them, even still today, you can't replicate what they've been able to do from a production standpoint. But I understand what you're talking about

as far as the business goes. I understand what you're talking about. And just, Ocho, it's just like a relationship. You might, you might be, and I'm not just talking about women, I'm talking about men.

It might be a woman, she can do everything, but treats you a certain way. So even though she can cook, she take care of the house, she do everything that you might need, but she becomes a headache. It becomes a problem. It's

the nagging. She doesn't give you the peace. And as soon as you find somebody to give you, they might not ever be able to do totally what she can do. It might be a man. He pay all the bills. He do everything. He's like, you know what?

I'm up out of here. And she gone? She gone. I don't know about that scenario right there. A woman leaving a man that's paying all the bills and going to somebody else that I don't know about that one. I tell you what, she'll do something behind his back until he

find out and then he'll get rid of her. Well, that is true. They will play that. That's, yeah. They'll give you a reason to get up out of here. Come on, man. So, as a teen team you heard him

what did you say so as a team a team will say you know what yes we're not going to find anybody to give us those numbers but I'm not going to deal with this no more

I'm not dealing with this anymore I'm not going to keep begging you to act a certain way I'm not going to deal with this no more. I'm not dealing with this anymore. I'm not finna keep begging you to act a certain way. I'm not gonna ask you to keep doing this. We done. And then, because here's the thing, Mojo, if you have a great, let's

just say, T.O. should have been able to get two or three more years, just based on what he had done in his previous 12, 13 years. Just based on what he had done in his previous play of 13 years. Just that alone should allow him to say, you know what? Hey, you know what, T.O.? We can't pay you the money which you normally get, but here you go. Bro, we need you to be the third receiver.

We're going to shoot you $3, $4, $5 million a year. Same thing with A.B. Man, look how talented A.B. was. There ain't no reason AB shouldn't be in the league. None whatsoever. But, you see what happened in Pittsburgh,

and you see what happened in Oakland, but I think the fans did AB a disservice. Because when he was posting everything, and they was like, AB, yeah, you right, AB. You right, AB. Ooh, AB. Let AB free. Let AB.

Bro, stop this, man. Y'all see the man being destructive to himself. Why would y'all, why would y'all egg that behavior on? Tom, throw him a lifeline. I guarantee you, they ain't 10 guys

that got feet better than AB right now in the NFL. Hold on. It ain't no now in the NFL. Hold on. It ain't no A.B. in the NFL right now at all. And that's no disrespect to the talent that's there right now. That's no disrespect to the top five right now. Ain't no A.B. Ain't no Antonio Brown out there.

Now, it's different now. It ain't no A.B. out there. The guy himself. When he still should have been there. So he just goes to show you. It's just like another job. You know what? He ain't as productive as he once was, but he good in the locker room.

Think about it. A lot of times you see coaches, they'll go somewhere, and they'll take a couple of guys from the team they were on just because. Right. I know when I left, if I needed a job, I'd go get a job right now. I'd go get a job with Kyle Shanahan's staff. I'd get a job with Mike McDaniel's staff. I'd get a job with Sean McVay's staff.

You know why? Because Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan would go vouch for me. Yeah. But shoot, I can give me a job too. I can give me a job too. I ain't calling nobody. I don't want to be no damn coach. I don't want to coach either. Listen, I think it takes too much time

to me, I think, to see the real money. I'm talking about the real money, huh? You hear me? Stay with me now. To see the real money as a coach, because coaching is so fickle. You got three years. If your ass ain't winning, you got to go.

And I ain't moving everybody. I ain't moving nobody. I ain't moving everybody up to another state. And we get fired and I got to tell real, okay, you and all the kids, we got to go.

We got to pack up. I can't do that. The money, I'm good right here. Oh, Joe, Anthony Richardson talked about being injury prone. I'm good right here. Ocho, Anthony Richardson talked about being injury prone. I had a coach told me once

the best ability is availability. We know it's a game of football where everybody running 20, 25 plus miles per hour is a contact sport. If you know that, get out. It's a contact sport. You got to be able to protect yourself,

especially at the quarterback position. Now, because you were last year, because you're injured now, you might have a hip injury or angle, whatever it may be. They're going to call you injury prone. It's going to stick. And that label is going to stick,

especially if it starts early on in your career. So you just got to find a way to protect yourself, man. Listen, Anthony Richardson is a special talent. He's a special talent. He has a chance, an opportunity to change the structure of that coach franchise. You know, not saying he's going to be Peyton Manning, but he has a chance to get it going in the right direction along with the other young quarterbacks like the Jayden Daniels, the CJ Strouds.

We just need him on the field. We need him on the field healthy and upright. So I'm hoping he has a speedy recovery. But right now, based on what we've seen the past two seasons, you would be just that, injury prone. And I'm not. Ocho, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. Football is not a contact sport.

What is it? Football is a collision sport. A collision is contact. When two things collide, that's contact. See, contact is minimal. People collide. I like it. Football, I heard somebody best describe football this way.

Football is a lot like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors. You don't win at football. You survive the game. You survive football. Because think about it. You say if somebody ran into you at 20 miles an hour, but you think about this. People are

running at you at 20 miles an hour over and over and over and over and over and over again. 15, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50 times a game. That's what I tell people. You want to know what it's like to play NFL football. Go to Lowe's and get your hard hat and put on your biggest coat and get 10 yards away from your garage. Get five yards away from your garage and run into it as hard as you possibly can.

20 times. Okay, now do it again your garage and run into it as hard as you possibly can. 20 times. Okay, now do it again 30 times. And then do it again 40 times. And I tell you what, just for good measure, come back and do it again on Thursday because you got a short week. Now you know what it's like to play football. And everybody talking about he's soft, he's soft. You wouldn't last one day. Yeah.

Let alone a season. So stop it. I love how people tell about he's soft bro you don't know what soft is you soft for the drugstore cotton all y'all out there bumping the gloves so i oh he's soft he's soft he's scared bro there's a reason why you on your couch talking how you were scared now you now you was scared now you know what I had to go through two times a year against the Ravens two times a year against the Steelers yes but you know I was able to do it

without getting injured for years can I tell you why I never got hurt what nutrition for years. Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why I never got hurt? What? Nutrition. Oh, Joe. The same way people that never drank get cancer. The same way

people that do eat certain things, there are certain people that eat or eat whatever and never get a disease. Yeah. But there are some people that eat everything. Boom. So ain't no people that eat everything and boom. So ain't no rhyme or reason, Ocho.

What about the people that don't smoke and get cancer? Get lung cancer? Get throat cancer? And there are people that been smoking 70 years take their last breath. Oh well, he had a cigarette in hand

some people smoke 70 years Ocho and never get it and there are people that never smoke a cigarette or cigar never drank anything I just stopped trying to figure out why look this is the way it's intended to be

hey let me make the most of my time while I'm here. But Anthony Richardson, you're going to have to learn how to get down. You're never going to be big enough to run over those guys. They'll break you, bro. They'll break you. I understand. You 6'5", 244, and you ran

4'4", 4'5". Yeah. He's going to be all right, though. 4-4-4-5 yeah he gonna be alright though he gonna be alright get him healthy stay on that field he gonna be alright Ocho he gotta protect himself I'm blocking for you

Ocho is just like me I'm blocking for you Ocho on the jailbreak screen once you break that and you see all them three guys Ocho gonna you go down, man. But listen, the coach has got to save him from himself. Stop fucking running him. Stop calling plays where he's

run first. They got to change some of the play calling. You know, I understand he can take off because nobody's open. That's one thing. But design play runs, I think when he got hurt, if I'm not mistaken, that might have been a design play runs i think when he got hurt if i'm not mistaken that might have been a design play run i if i'm not mistaken no he broke he scrambled on that one but no the what but actually he got hurt to play before because remember he got up limp and he

scrambled and got up to play before and then the next one was a quarterback run was a design run See what I mean? See what I mean? That's on the goddamn coast. Yes. If I'm a defender, if he ain't protecting you, why the hell should I? They the one that's running you, I'm gonna try to drop helmet on you. Every time.

Yes. So, A, protect yourself, bro. Protect yourself.'re not they're not they're not going to protect you they're gonna they're gonna because think about it they go a whole game they already done said they can't put they can't in the pocket they got to put a blanket and get a nice little pillow and lay you down they can't dump you like they used to. So once you get outside that pocket and you get past that line of scrimmage, boy, they trying to...

Ooh. Boy, they're hunting out there, man. For sure. I know I would. Yeah. I mean, the rules are already in the offensive favor. So, yeah. You know, the rules up there, the offensive favor so you know the rules

they want to keep the star quarterbacks on the field well it's your job it's the offensive coordinator's job and it's his job to stay on the field because if you break that line of scrimmage I'm trying to split your mofo down I'm trying to split your mofo down.

I'm trying to because that greatly increases my chance to win. Hey, I'm hitting you as hard as legal. Look, I don't want people to misconstrue this. I'm never going to hit anybody cheap unless you hit me cheap. Then I'm going to get you back. I'm going to get my lick back. I just want you to know I'm going to get my lick back.

But in that situation, I ain't going to get them cheap. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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