Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: David Benavidez joins, De’Aaron Fox Spurs rumors, viral Twitter videos

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by 3-time WBC Super Middle Weight champ David Benavidez to discuss his upcoming fight against David Morrell on February 1st at 8PM ET.../5PM PT on Prime Video. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Sacramento Kings De’Aaron Fox to the San Antonio Spurs rumors, the guys dive into viral Twitter moments and more!04:00 - David Benavidez joins18:00 - D Fox to Spurs24:11 - Franklin gets picture of drill for package31:00 - Wife lies about emergency funds38:30 - Q&Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:54 and super middleweight, 29-0, 24 knockouts, David Benavidez. David, how you doing, bro? I'm doing great, brother. Thank you guys for having me on. I really appreciate the invitation being here. Thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:08 David Morrell, what can we expect in this fight? So David Morrell, the reason why I picked this guy is because he's the top fighter at light heavyweight division. You know, for me, I understand that I want to make my own path and I got to be the best. And then no matter who it may be. So David Morel, he's considered the best of light heavyweight, but I'm just the Mexican monster. And I'm going to show exactly what I made up this Saturday. And like I said, you know, this is, this is, this is a real beef. I'm going in there to break David Morel's mouth. He had a lot to say about me.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So he has to, he has to live up to everything he said about me. I like it. Hey, listen, Dave. Listen, we know each other very well, man. You started boxing at the age of three. Can you share some memories from your early training days and what drew you to the sport at such a young age? Yeah, definitely. I remember training in the garage with my dad,
Starting point is 00:05:59 with my dad and my brother. I know just being a little kid, running miles, and sparring all the kids in the neighborhood, sparring everybody, basically earning my respect was sparring the bad people and beating them up, then going to different cities and beating them up and just making my name like that. And, um, you know, basically what, what drew me to the sport more, what made me grow passionate of it, it was, it was, it's not how you look or it's not how you acted it's how you fought that's how we gained the respect and you could look a certain type of way
Starting point is 00:06:31 but you could be a whole different type of way in the ring and you know because of me when i was younger i was chubbier so people made fun of me but when i got their ass in the ring they had nothing to say to me after that so that's really what drew me to the sport and that's what made me have the passion i have for the sport today. With all the fights you've had to date, right? Is there one fight that you consider the most defining moment in your career? Or you haven't had that fight yet?
Starting point is 00:06:55 I feel like I haven't had that fight yet. I feel like the one that really put me on the map was when I fought Caleb Plant. Because, you know, I kind of really got my story out there. And it wasn't a hard fight, to be honest with you you but that was really the one that put me on the map look you're fighting David Morrell but we everybody knows you everybody everybody in the sport even you're not in the sport they know you want one fight you want Canelo Alvarez why is it so important for you to fight Canelo?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Because that's just going to define, you know, my history, and that's basically, that fight is the passing of the torch from one great Mexican fighter to another. But that's why that fight isn't happening. Because that other Mexican fighter doesn't want to pass the torch, because he knows, once I get his ass in that ring, all his titles are going to
Starting point is 00:07:41 come with me. And he's not ready to be sacrificed like that yet. And at the end of the day, like I said, if he was so confident in his skills that he could come beat me, why doesn't he just come shut me up and get a big bag out of it too? Because this is the biggest fight in boxing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Whether you like it or not, you know, whether somebody says it is or it's not, this is the fight that everybody wants to see. I'm 100% confident in myself. I know I will go in there and I'll beat Canelo. He knows that he can't beat me. That's why he doesn't want to give me the opportunity. That's why he'd rather fight Jaime Munguia.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's why he'd rather fight Edgar Berlingo because he knows he can't mess with the Mexican monster. I love the confidence. Where does the confidence like this come from to know Canelo, one of the greatest fighters of all time? I think most would probably argue the fact. What is it about what you've done or what you've achieved makes you feel that you can beat Canelo no matter what, hands down?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Where does the confidence come from? Because I've been putting in the work for a long, long time. I've been sparring nothing but world champions, you know, in my adolescence. When I was 14 years old, I sparred Peter Quillen. He was a champion. 14 years old, I was sparring Lateef Kyobe. He was a champion.
Starting point is 00:08:57 15, Kelly Pavlik. 16, Gennady Dilovkin. 17, Gilberto Ramirez. 18, Bivol. And not only was I holding my ground with these fighters I was getting the best out of them and that's why I know I'm a different type of I'm a different caliber fighter and honestly at the end of the day I believe in myself I believe in my skills I believe that you know um I can manifest whatever I desire. I'm really connected with my mind, body, and soul. So I know whatever I set my mind to, I will manifest.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And that's how I know I will beat Canelo because I have 110% confidence in myself and whatever I set my mind to, I will accomplish. Listen, as much as I love boxing, I love the sweet science, I love everything about it. So when I think about Canelo, and at some point I think this fight will happen. When it happens, I'm not sure. But if it is to happen, would you prefer to fight at 168 for the undisputed super middleweight?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Or you open to face him at a catchweight or even a fight at heavyweight? To be honest with you, I'm not going to give you my opinion. Can you still, David, can you still? Yes? I don't know. Once somebody froze... Hold on, Dave. Hold on one minute.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Is that us? I can see you now. I don't keep moving. Okay, go ahead, Dave. So what I ask you, would you prefer to fight at 168 168 pounds for the Undisputed Super Metalweight Title, or are you open to face him At a catchweight, or hell, even heavyweight What do you think?
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm going to play, I'm going to predict the future right here I'm going to talk to him The only way I see this fight happening Is me going up, or winning all the belts At light heavyweight. Winning all the undisputed titles. And then me and Canelo fight at a catchweight. 172 or 173
Starting point is 00:11:11 for the 168 pound titles and the 175 pound titles. I think that will entice Canelo to fight because it will make this fight 100 times bigger. And it will be the biggest fight in the Mexican boxing history. and that's the way I see that fight playing out. I feel like in my
Starting point is 00:11:28 heart, I definitely feel in my heart that's how that fight's going to happen and I will be the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. I like it. I love it. What is it? When we think of boxing, when we think of Mexican boxer, we think of Machismo, we see De La Hoya, we
Starting point is 00:11:43 see Chavez. We see all these great Mexican fighters, and we know they're going to go out on their shield. I don't care. Let me die in this ring. Do not throw that towel in. Do not stop this fight. We going out. We going to
Starting point is 00:11:59 go out. What is it that you guys put so much pride in boxing? I just feel like you're not going to let somebody outmaneuver you. In this sport, it's the only sport that can be man-to-man. And I'm going to fight. I'm not going to let somebody make me look bad in front of my people. This is how it is.
Starting point is 00:12:20 This is why it's a machismo. This is a Mexican style of boxing. We're going to keep going toe-to-toe until one goes to the floor and i guarantee you that one is not gonna be me i'm gonna be the one going toe-to-toe and i'm gonna be knocking everybody out and that's how much confidence i have myself and i feel like that's just the mexican blood of me i feel like all mexican fighters think like that oh you forgot what do you think the hold up is is it money does he say you're asking for too much money
Starting point is 00:12:48 does he want too much money no so when they offered Canelo he only gives when you fight Canelo you only get a flat fee of 5 million dollars which I'm totally fine for that but like I said he's
Starting point is 00:13:06 looking for the easier fights he doesn't want the hard fights like I said that's why he's going with Berlanga he went with Jaime Munguia I feel like this fight is going to be inevitable because I'm not going nowhere you know I just turned 28 years old I'm coming into my prime
Starting point is 00:13:21 and I feel the best I've ever felt and I'm not going nowhere I guarantee you I'm going to be the last man standing. So when Canelo, he's through with all the little fighters he's fighting, he's done fighting all the weak fighters he's fighting, you know, there's going to be a real man right here standing in front of him. I like it. Let's go back to what's happening February 1st. David Benavidez, the Mexican monster versus David Murrell, and we know you watch Morel. I've watched Morel. I've followed Morel before.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Morel is known for his aggressive style. What do you see as his biggest strengths? And do you see any holes in his game that you may be able to expose, whether it be mid-range, whether it be in the pocket? What's the game plan, if you're allowed to talk about that? Yeah, David Morel, he's a great fighter. But this is what sets me apart from everybody else i make the great fighters look average and with david moreau he moves around really good but you know like i said i cut the distance i throw punches and bunches i throw hard body shots he's never faced nobody like me he's never faced nobody yeah throws
Starting point is 00:14:20 combinations like me attacks to the body and that could take a punch. You know, like I said, we're going to go toe-to-toe for, we're going to go toe-to-toe all day. So all that stuff he was talking about me saying that he was going to knock me, that he was going to hurt me, you know, I'm going to be there to test his chin. And I'm going to be,
Starting point is 00:14:34 I want to do a fight. Like I said, I like to be, I like to beat an ass that's not scary. You know what I mean? So I'm going in there, I'm putting everything on the line, and I will get David Morel out of there. I like it. I'm excited, man. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I can't wait till February 1st, man. I could talk boxing all goddamn night. Go ahead. What about some of the other fighters? What about Bovo? What about Better B.L.? Yeah, so after this fight, after I beat David Morel, I'm going to be put in line to fight for all the titles. That's why I was telling Chad that that's why I see the fight with
Starting point is 00:15:08 Konello. It's inevitable. It's definitely going to happen because once I get all those titles, that's going to be the only thing that entices Konello. But I understand that Better B and Bivol are great fighters. I used to spar Bivol. I sparred him a lot. So I know him
Starting point is 00:15:23 up close and personal. But they're great fighters. But like I said, I understand that greatness isn't given. It's earned. So I'm going to go take my greatness. I like it. That's the fight. David Benavidez.
Starting point is 00:15:41 David Morrell. February the 1st, 8 p.mpm Pacific on Prime Video hold on, hold on Dave, I got a question yeah in between, right let's say after the Morrell fight anything in between you want to fight me as a tune-up
Starting point is 00:16:00 a tune-up match before you get to Canelo or you get to anybody else come on bro, I used to watch you when I was in 7th grade, you get to Canelo or you get to anybody else? Come on, bro. I used to watch you when I was in seventh grade. You used to be my favorite player. I don't want to do you like that, bro. Come on, please. No way to do it. No way to do it like that.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Hey, hey, hey. Do him. Do him. Hey. I'm going to knock you out, and it's going to hurt my heart. No, no, no, no, no. Listen. It's called winning.
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Starting point is 00:16:24 Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Winning. Win no. Listen, it's called. When you're ready, when you want to get some work in, man, I'm ready. But, dude, listen, I love you. I'm excited for the game, for the fight, you know, February 1st. And I wish you nothing but luck, man. Have a good one. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I love you too, man. And like I said, I've been a lifelong fan of you guys, man, both of you guys, man. So it's an honor to be here. Bro, thank you so much. David Benavidez takes on David Morrell, February the 1st, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, on Prime Video. Good luck, David.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Thank you for joining us, man. We'll talk to you down the road. Hopefully, within the next year, that fight with Canelo takes place, and we'll have you right back here again. Yes, sir. Thank you, guys, man. Take care.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Ocho, check this out. You heard him? He scared of me. He scared of me. If he fights that super middleweight, which is 168, he's probably walking around at 198, so he's probably
Starting point is 00:17:21 walking around at your size. Yeah. And he's tall with around at your size. Yeah, yeah. And he's tall with it, too. Good defense. He's always tight. Like he said earlier, he throws them punches in bunches.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So it's going to be a very good fight. I'm not sure if you know anything about David Murrell, but David Murrell is good. He's got power. He can move around when he needs to. He can sit in the pocket when he needs to. He can fight at mid-range. He can fight from distance.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He got good ring IQ. He's young. He doesn't have that many fights up under his belt, but he's so good, which is why he's very confident. He can get in there and go toe-to-toe. Go toe-to-toe, but he's going to be there. I'm excited for it, and I can't wait. It's going to be a good one. I think the thing is, Ochoa, but look,
Starting point is 00:18:08 if everybody's coming to fight like they say, somebody's going to get left. Because, hey, here's the thing now. When you throw punches, you can't protect your chin. When you throw, you're out here, what you protected with? Something's going to come. You got to wait for something going to be coming back. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Every time. Every time, especially at that level. Yes. That's why ring IQ is important. It's the chess match. It's the chess match. As you go up in weight classes, them punches get harder and harder.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Harder and harder, yeah. And one punch turns the lights out of the building. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I can't wait to see that fight. Ocho, basketball. De'Aaron Fox to the Spurs. The Kings received dozens of calls about De'Aaron Fox.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He reportedly has a favorite destination in mind, the San Antonio Spurs. There would be a partnership in Ascending Center, Victor Wimbinyama, to create one of the best young duos in the Western Conference. Do you like De'Fox, Sw Swiper Fox, headed to San Antonio? I mean, I do like it in a sense. You think about in Sacramento, where are they going? Where are they headed? Could it be a situation similar to that of in Portland?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Damon Lither being in Portland, overstaying. I important. You know, overstaying, you know, I don't want to say overstaying is welcome, but allowing him to go somewhere else where he can get some done and compete, you know, for a championship. I think Gary Fox have an opportunity to go over there with Victor Wimbayama.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Did I say that right? Yeah, Wimbayama. Yeah, go over there with Victor Wimbayama, who is one of the best in the nba right now i think they can continue to build in a in one point challenge you know for for a trophy yeah i think the thing is oh joe i'm looking i'm like san antonio and i get wimby you would think like god most guys want to go to new york they want to go to la they want to go to these one of these big markets san antonio is not a big market that tells me like hey i want to go to New York. They want to go to LA. They want to go to one of these big markets.
Starting point is 00:20:05 San Antonio is not a big market. That tells me, like, hey, I want to win. And go to another team, Ocho, you lose a year. So instead of getting a five-year, you got to get a four-year. But he's willing to forego that. That tells me that, you know, he doesn't feel like he can accomplish what he wants to accomplish, and that's to win. Because you're going to get money wherever you go. I mean, what can't you do
Starting point is 00:20:27 with $250 million, $270 million that you can do with $300 million? You still will be, whatever you want to buy, you still will be able to buy it. Yeah, he's one of the best young guards, super quick. Cat quick. Lives in the
Starting point is 00:20:44 lane. got a nice little flow game can shoot you know can shoot uh step back or kind of remind you a little bit like tony parker you know tony parker late lived in the lane played amongst the trees but the difference is uh yeah you're beautiful floater yeah uh jaron fox was a lot more athletic than tony parker tony parker didn't have the athleticism that De'Aaron Fox did, but he was crafty. He knew how to get his shot off, especially in the paint. Like I said, he lived in the paint.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But De'Aaron Fox, like I said, I'm surprised, Ocho, that the Spurs, there are not a whole lot of people that says, oh, my destination is San Antonio. The only free agency that I think that they've gotten via free agency is LaMarcus Aldridge. When Tim Duncan left, LaMarcus Aldridge left
Starting point is 00:21:37 San Antonio, excuse me, left Portland. When the Lakers thought they had it. And he ends up going to Portland. Excuse me, ends up going to San Antonio. He left Portland. the Lakers thought they had him. And he ends up going to Portland. Excuse me. Ends up going to San Antonio. He left Portland. The Lakers thought they had him, but he bypassed the Lakers and went to San Antonio. That is
Starting point is 00:21:53 the only free agent that I can think of. DeMar DeRozan. I think they traded for DeMar DeRozan. It's going to be very, very interesting to see this thing. He might have went there for agency, but I'm not sure. But, you know, they drafted Kawhi. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 No, they didn't trade. Yes. Yes. They traded. Yeah, they traded DeMar DeRozan for Kawhi. So that's how he ended up in San Antonio. They drafted Tim Duncan. They drafted Manu. They drafted tim duncan they drafted manu they drafted
Starting point is 00:22:26 tony parker they drafted david robinson so if you look at the night and look they've won um but i've never done a whole lot of freeing since i don't understand tech you know taxes no state income tax but you got dallas you got houston you have people but i want to go to houston i want to go to d. I really never heard free agents say, I want to go to San Antonio. Darren Fox would be the first that I would have heard say if I want to go to San Antonio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Hey, he wants to win. He wants to win. He's standing on business. And there's a great young team that is headed in the right direction and doing just that, winning. Yeah. And he signed, I think now he's with Clutch,
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Starting point is 00:29:20 or Lowe's or Home Depot or somewhere. Home Depot right down the street. Yeah. You know, because things like that, stuff I can like, okay, let me see, let me see what I,
Starting point is 00:29:29 what I, is what I'm purchasing, is it equipped to do the job that I'm going to need it to do? So that's probably something you probably need to see up close and personal, Joe.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But yeah, bro, they got you. They got you. Hold on. Matter of fact, speaking, speaking of, are you,
Starting point is 00:29:43 are you, are you a handyman? Are you like, like Tim, like Tim from, what's the show? Two Time. Yeah, Two Time. Tim, can you build stuff? No. No?
Starting point is 00:29:53 No. Okay. Okay. I was just curious. You can't either. Who? Me too. Hey, I took wood shopping in high school.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I did too. I did too. I can put together an entire bed and bed frame with wood. All I need is nails in it. I can break an entire bed and bed frame. I can put it together. I can do that because I lay heavy. I can take it apart.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Now, if you need somebody to take it apart, just call your boy. I'll do that for you. You put it back together, but I'll take it apart for you. No, no, no. But I took, no i don't i don't have i'm not god gave me the ability god gave me was to play sports that's what i can do you give me a football or basketball or baseball or something like that but i can i can i can do that but handy can't do. I can't put if together. I'm paying somebody to do that. That's why I got a full-time handy guy that comes over.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Oh, you got a handy guy? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, anything that breaks or needs to be put together, I call him. So what happens if you're driving and you got a flat tire that's what i got roadside assistance for so you can't change the tire i can change the tire but i ain't paying the kind of money i'm paying for roadside assistance i'm gonna put that okay okay okay okay okay i'm just curious the fact that you the fact that you can do it
Starting point is 00:31:23 yeah i can change the tire. Some of this stuff that they got together, like I had this guy, I bought a concept bike that you see a lot of times in these CrossFit gyms. Man, he laid out the instructions.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Man, I looked at that and went back in the house. I said, hey, you need some water next thing I know like 20 minutes he run the doorbell I'm done yeah I said you put that whole thing together he's like yeah he said you want to test it out
Starting point is 00:32:01 some people have a knack for that they do you look at all them directions you look at all them nails and schools they be like man hell nah but you know what
Starting point is 00:32:13 the same way you look at stuff like that if you was to give them a playbook they'd be the same way like what the hell is this exactly I don't hey I'm good at
Starting point is 00:32:23 I'm great at what I'm good at right but what i'm not i don't put any time man you need to learn no i don't i don't i'm too i'm too old i don't i'm not trying to learn that that doesn't interest me in order to for me to learn something it really needs to interest me on show it just means right you gotta have a passion for it. Yeah, putting stuff together, that don't interest me. Learning how to cook, that doesn't interest me. I, I, now, I, look, you either,
Starting point is 00:32:52 you either can pay somebody, you either do things, Ocho, you either pay somebody to do it because you can or because you can't. I can't do it, so I pay somebody to do it. I don't want to do it, so I pay somebody to do it. I don't want to do it, so I pay somebody to do it. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yes. Now, I'm not taking a survey, but studies at Harvard show and say that women prefer a man that is handy and that can cook over one that can pay for the services and have someone else do it. Well. What are your thoughts on that? I ain't going to find no woman that wants somebody that can cook because I can't. I ain't going to try to learn either. I mean, look, if a woman can cook, yeah, sure, that's great.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But that's not a deal breaker for me that she can't cook. But no, I'm saying women wanting a man that knows how to cook as opposed to having a man that can afford to have a chef. They out there. I wish her well. knows how to cook as opposed to having a man that could afford to have a chef. They out there. She love me. I wish her well.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I don't know what to tell you. I mean, I'm just going to be honest. I ain't going to stand in the way. I can't. I'm not trying to learn how to cook no oxtails and no stuff like that. I'm not trying to learn how to cook no fried chicken and all that other stuff. I'm not. There ain't no sense in me lying to you.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I ain't going to hold you. Right. That ain't me. So if you're looking for somebody that can give you, that can cook for you, and, hey, baby, I'm going to make brunch for us,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and I'm going to make some eggs benedicts, and I'm going to make pancakes, or I'm going to make waffles and stuff like that, bless his heart. Y'all deserve to be together. That's what you want, and that's what he can do.
Starting point is 00:34:21 But that ain't me. Ocho, check this out. What check this out a woman is crying after revealing to her husband she never had an emergency savings account after she told him she did her husband thought thank goodness we have that money you saved in your account and now the woman is crying ojo if the money was never, is this grounds to end the relationship? Well, yes, it's grounds to end the relationship because obviously I'm assuming he must have been giving her money, right? Put away into the savings account. So where's the money going?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Obviously, she's using the money for something. And if they live together and that's the wife and he doesn't see her buying anything, the money got to be going somewhere. So not only is it ground for whatever he needs and sees fit in doing, after there is no savings account, something ain't right. And you know what the option you got to be careful to on. Most of the time,
Starting point is 00:35:14 women have a savings account or a private account, and they continue to save up and save up and save up and save up as an exit strategy as well. Yeah. I think I read a study the other day, Ocho, that the divorces, that 70% of the divorces are filed by women.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You know, they don't file them until there's a plan B in place. No, no, no. Women are not going to do anything like that. Women are a lot more methodical. They're planned. They're like, okay, okay. Yeah. have to make sure i got a place to go they're gonna they know where they're gonna go they don't start ordering they don't start ordering off wayfair they got a little
Starting point is 00:35:55 furniture coming that you don't know about um they got a little stash they've been stashing they've been paying the bill but they've been pocketing a little bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, they done told their mom. They done told their sister. They done told their homegirl. Hey. That's why listen, you always got to stay two steps ahead. Any sign of anything that's out of character
Starting point is 00:36:17 or that's not normal and it raises your antennas, then you just have to understand you have to move accordingly and be prepared for anything at that point. Anything at that point. Well, I mean, you got your account.
Starting point is 00:36:36 She got her account. Do y'all have a joint account? Wait, wait, wait. If you have a joint account, it has to be a joint account that you guys start and you put money in together yes yes yes yes okay and uh i don't know what's in your account you don't know what's in my account we know it's in this one we know it's in this one right we pay bills we pay bills out of this account. Hey, I like that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Now, that's structured discipline. If you can find someone like that where you guys both are doing well in your respective fields and whatever it is you do and having that joint account and having that structure of starting off, let's say, as a couple just randomly. I'm just throwing a number out there. We put $5,000 in together. Start off with $10,000. off let's let's say as as a couple just randomly i'm just throwing a number out there we put five thousand in you know together start off with ten and then every time we get paid we put a certain amount in and we continue to do that over time right man you know what that you know what that be looking like at at you know after a year and some time man yeah everyone everybody like man time? Man. Yeah. Everybody be like, man, you gonna let your account,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you gonna put your wife on your account? Are you high? Bruh. Wait, if you get home, if you married, you wouldn't put your wife on your account? You talking about where the money is? I'm talking that like real money
Starting point is 00:38:05 yes sir man please people be think i was a d food like i said i got an account right you got an account we got a joint account now are they parameters i update my uh uh my every two years because the money grows and so every two years I update it this this oh you acting a fool you get a little less I'm sorry oh okay
Starting point is 00:38:37 oh yeah I'll update it yes yes the estate absolutely every two years and she will be taken care of. And guess what? It's a neutral party. Hey, my sister, my brother, ain't none of them. Can money do funny things?
Starting point is 00:38:53 Hey, I'm going to keep people accountable. Hey, this is what you get. Also, stipulations. If you contest anything, guess what? You lose half of what you got. Right. Tread carefully. Be thankful.
Starting point is 00:39:09 My brother loved me. My dad loved me. My homeboy, hey, my homeboy looked out. Then, hey, I got set up for certain charities. Savannah State gets a portion. This gets a portion. But, oh, absolutely. No, don't y'all work too hard to be.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Right, right, right. Boy, look at, boy, you talking about crashing out? No. Ooh, man, would I? I don't play by that. Right. But she will be taken care of. Now, if she choose to go back to work, that's on her.
Starting point is 00:39:40 That's on her, right. But she'll be, she'll have enough money. She won't have to work another day of her life. Now, if she's responsible now if you go out there and let somebody invest it hopefully she'll let the company the management team that I have put together hopefully she'll let them manage it
Starting point is 00:39:57 and she'll have enough money she can three four five hundred thousand dollars a year for the rest of her life or she'll let somebody swindle out of it and oh well i don't know what i can do about that right right right right so yeah that's that's how i'm gonna look at that ocho but you got to ocho i'm gonna i'll make sure everybody's taken care of. Now, I can only take care of you once because once I'm gone, there ain't no more Shannon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:27 So. Listen, you know, women have to be very careful, especially when they have someone like you or ladies that are in the chat that are watching. You have someone that you know is solid, that you know that you can depend on every month. If there are any issues that may come up, you know, if you have someone that will provide is solid, that you know that you can depend on every month. If there are any issues that may come up, you know, if you have someone that will provide and protect, you have to be very, very, very careful in thinking that because you might see all these other options that might be after you and chasing after you, you have to be careful
Starting point is 00:41:00 because losing someone like that you know you can depend on, who's going to protect, who's going to protect, who's going to provide, and that you know come hell a high war. No, you good. Ocho, even if I'm with a woman, and we've been together
Starting point is 00:41:18 for a length of time, we're not married. Oh, she's taken care of. She's taken care of. She's taken care of. The only thing is we don't have a piece of paper and you might not have my last name, but
Starting point is 00:41:33 I would make sure you're taken care of and I ain't going to let nobody say, well, he would want me because I don't want nobody to say, well, I ain't give you nothing because I ain't never like you. No, it's going to be in the paperwork. Oh, yeah. I'm a firm believer in that. If I give somebody my word, say,
Starting point is 00:41:49 I got this. I got you. I got you. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. All right, no joke. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Kimber Norwood Jr. said, my question
Starting point is 00:42:11 is whose defense will be able to stop the run in the Super Bowl and I would love an 85 jersey from Ocho on my wall. Ocho, who do you think? First of all, I think the thing is that the 49ers, the Chiefs, don't run the ball.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They want to be efficient. They're trying to be explosive in the passing game. They're not trying to be explosive in the run game because that's not what they have. The Eagles want to be explosive in the run game and efficient in the passing game. Cause they're not going to throw the ball all over the field. They're not trying to let Jalen Hurst throw the ball 30,
Starting point is 00:42:49 45 times. That's not what they are. That's not who they are. It's not what they do. That's not what they asked him to do. Right. Not with two six in your backfield. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You don't have to, you don't have to, but this is the thing, huh? This is the thing. You have to think. I see Spag Simmons to Belichick. I see Spag.
Starting point is 00:43:08 If Belichick is playing the Bengals. He's going to make Jalen Hurst beat him. We doubling 85 all day. I see Spag coming to this game for Super Bowl. And Andy Reid, we're doing everything we can to stop 26. Yeah. We coming to this game if anybody if aj brown beat us if jaylen hurst beat us or devontae smith beat us you know what i can live with that you're gonna
Starting point is 00:43:33 shake hands at the 50 yard line but 26 is not beating us in this game no i gotta it ain't happening i gotta make you beat me with your plan b i can't let you beat me with your plan a or two there you go so they're're going to make, and this is what I also like about Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts has also showed if the running game is not going as we see fit, it's not going well, he showed he can drop back
Starting point is 00:43:55 and throw the ball. He had a great good, I mean, maybe one of the best games that we've seen from Jalen Hurts throwing the football was in the Super Bowl against this very team. Yeah. Yes. He threw for over 300 yards. It was that one fumble because they had the game
Starting point is 00:44:10 in control, Ochoa, it was that one fumble. They got Kansas City back in the game. And then in the second half, the defense couldn't get a stop. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Goddamn, my home was special, man. He is, Ochoa. Especially, I think you take games like this he's been in these what most would consider precious situation big time games big time moments where it's a little different than regular season i think he's been into so much i think he's numb to it huh yeah i think he's numb to it because he just used to being on the stage so often like i'm taking what you give me. Matter of fact, what you don't give me, I'm going to take that too.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And I'm going to do everything I can to minimize the errors and the mistakes, and I'm going to let you beat yourself. I think the Eagles have a chance to win this game if Saquon can be efficient in the run game, Jalen Hurst can protect the ball and facilitate when need be, not doing anything extra, but just what is asked of him. They have a chance to win it. But again, you got to think that goddamn Spag's defense is nice.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah, just as long as I don't want to be in a situation where it's one possession game and Mahomes got the ball. That's all I'll say. I don't want that situation, Ocho. Let Mahomes have the ball with two minutes to go and we up by 14. Then I can deal with that, Ocho. I don't want to be in a situation where Mahomes got a ball
Starting point is 00:45:43 with the football in his hands with a chance to beat me. I've seen more times than not. When Mahomes has the ball in his hands with a chance to beat the opposing team, the opposing teams normally go home with a nail. That's what I've seen. Shannon Pope. Can we get Jimmy Butler on Club Shea Shea interview to see what the F is going on with him and Pat Riley. We know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Pat told him last summer, I'm not giving you an extension. He wants an extension. Two years, $121 million. Pat says, Pat didn't say I wouldn't give you one. He said, I just want to see you on the court more.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Jimmy said, F that. I've been on the court. So, Pat's saying, I'm not really comfortable giving a guy 35 got us i think jimmy butler is 35 maybe 36 i want to say 35 i'm sorry chad if i'm off a year or a couple of months or two coach riley says i don't want to give a guy that seems to be in decline because i don't in sports ocho i'm going to pay you based on what you've done. I've already paid you for that.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I give you a contract extension because I believe you're going to be able to perform at a $60 million level. See, you cannot, and a lot of people say, well, all the other bombs getting that money comparison is a thief of joy. You can't worry about what somebody else is getting the team that you're
Starting point is 00:47:06 on is saying I'm not giving you that if you're on that team and they give it to you okay it's like anything hey you might want to my homeboy say hey girl they be on the balcony oh well you better get his homegirl there
Starting point is 00:47:24 cause I ain't like that. So that's how you got to look at it, Ocho. Everything, just because somebody else did it, that doesn't mean where you are, that's what's going to happen. So we know what's going on. Jimmy Butler and Coach Riley.
Starting point is 00:47:40 If I'm Coach Riley, me personally, I wouldn't trade Jimmy. What? I wouldn't. What would you go do? I'm done. I'm going to break his plate because I'm done rewarding negative behavior. Remember he did this in Chicago? Remember he did this in Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Right. Now he's mad again. He want to do this? No, I'm not. Hey, guess what? Play this contract out. You got a $50 million option. Opt out of it. If somebody's out there who's going to give you what you Play this contract out. You got a $50 million option. Opt out of it. If somebody out there is going to give you what you want, take off. But I'm not. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And guess what? You act a fool, conjure detrimental. I ain't paying you. Ain't like we winning the championship this year. Even if Jimmy Butler's at his best, you think they're going to beat the Celtics? They're going to beat the Knicks? No. They're going to beat the Cavaliers?
Starting point is 00:48:24 No. I'm not. I'm notiers? No. I'm not. I'm not rewarding negative behavior. I'm done. As a child, your child acts up in the store. And every time your child acts up, you give them candy.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You buy them a toy. You give them ice cream. What's his incentive? What's his or her incentive to stop? He was a big proponent of that. He said, boy, you don't reward negative behavior. Me? Guess what? Hey, I don't reward negative behavior me guess what hey
Starting point is 00:48:48 I don't know what to tell you you can play for us but you're not going to play see Nathaniel Ocho and I learned Terry Crews told me something he had to interview he said Shannon you can't nod your head yes and mean no sign the contract wait a minute hold on hold on You can't nod your head yes and mean no. Mm. It's not in the contract.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That's it. Hold on. Hold on now. God's way.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Listen, it was simple, but it was deep. Mm-hmm. It was simple, but it was deep. Mm-hmm. It was simple, but it was deep. You can't nod your head yes. Yes, and mean no. I got to use that with my kids. No, it wouldn't. And I know, look, everybody that I see, man, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and this one and that one. How old is Jason Tatum?
Starting point is 00:49:49 How old is Jalen Brown? Right, right. And the one thing that we see, those guys are not missing the time. Jimmy Butler's been nicked. Right. And two years. Bro, he's making 40-something this year. He got a player option next year for like 52.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Dang. And he wants a two-year option on top of that, Ocho, for like 121. So what, 60 and a half a year? So if he's 35, so 36 is a $52 million option. 37 is a 60. 38.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I mean, people are looking at that Paul George deal. Like, oh, ooh. This thing ain't going to be looking good because it ain't really looking too spiffy right now. Right. I can just imagine what it's going to look like year two, year three, year four. Ooh, oh my goodness. So I get Jimmy's frustration. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:59 If he was, hey, lay your tail off, opt out, go get your money. Because you got the player option for 50 plus million. Play your tail off this year. Opt out of that contract. Take off. Or play so good that he ain't got no choice but to give you an extension. Yeah. Okay, Darian Mallett, Uncle Nocho loved the show, but I have to ask, why won't either of you give Jalen Hurst the credit he deserves?
Starting point is 00:51:25 It seems like the goalposts keep moving. For what? I just did. What are you talking about? I just talked about Jalen Hurst. So what credit haven't we given him? He wins. So does Lamar.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So does Josh Allen. So does Josh Allen. So does Mahomes. So I want to know, so what's the comparison? I mean, he wins in a different way. Yes. But he wins. Yes. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Well, we don't get, listen, he had six games in which he threw for less than 170 yards. I think he had nine games where he threw less than 200. Guys like that, they don't get the Peyton Manning treatment. They don't get the Tom Brady. They don't get the Mahomes. They don't get the Elways, the Marinos. Bro, it's just, it ain't no, you know how this feels. Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Two times he was MVP. When was the last time you heard Terry Bradshaw mentioned as one of the great quarterbacks, the top 10 quarterback? When was the last time you heard him mention Terry Bradshaw? Troy Aikman, 3-0. When was the last time you heard that? Right. Ain't nobody moving no goalposts. You just haven't
Starting point is 00:52:43 learned enough football. Hey, I ain't got no problem with Jalen Hurts. I like him. I thought he did a good job. But, hey, he lost his job for two. He did a great thing. He's like, you know what? I think I'm better than Sid on the bill backup. Went to Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Parlayed that. Played well. Got him to the college football playoff. They lost. But, hey, increased his stock. Get a second-round pick. Comes in for Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz never gets his job back. He's been the starter. Second
Starting point is 00:53:08 Super Bowl in three years. I'm just trying to figure out what credit. Let me ask you a question. Did Joe Flacco get the credit he deserved? Because he won a Super Bowl. He was a Super Bowl MVP. Beat Tom Brady in his house. I just want to know. Did he get the credit he deserved? Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Get back to us, Kedari. Andrea Jordan, if Eagles win the Super Bowl, does it surpass Moses Malone coming to the Sixers to win the championship? Woo! No. Because Moses, no because because moses they had the eagles won the soup bowl with with nick foals moses came because the sixes couldn't get over the hump they lost in 77 to the portland trail
Starting point is 00:53:58 blazers they lost at 80 uh to the lakers they lost at 82 to the Lakers. So he got them over the hump. It's like the Eagles just won the Super Bowl like five years ago. What year did the Eagles win the Super Bowl? 2017? I think 2017. I think. What does it say? Ash, why'd you say it with such disdain in your voice?
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yes. I thought you'd be happy that I just blurted that out and I got it. But you seem so unhappy for me. It's really annoying, man. You don't have to... You heard it, Jordan. You heard it, Jordan. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:53 She's a hater. She's such a hater. She's such a hater. Aaron Jones... When you take a little vacation. I mean, I'm happy. You take it one before the tour or, or, or probably after.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh shit. I mean, I can't, I can't go. Cause one of us got to be here. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm taking, I'm taking mine tomorrow. Okay. I'm taking my stuff. i'm taking my stuff i'm taking my stuff with me though i'm just saying um no no no when i take a vacation i ain't taking no stuff i'm going on vacation i'm done you're gonna have to run the show oh no i ain't talking about oh i ain't oh no wait i'm talking about this is a mini i got a seven day you're gonna be in New Orleans, yeah? Yes. Man, why am I? Why didn't I ask you? You got to do the damn live show.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I'm asking if you're going to be in New Orleans. Yeah. No, but I'm saying I got to do a seven-day stretch of work. Okay. So I'm going Sunday to Sunday. So I'm done at Inside the NFL, but I'm a correspondent on Monday at the, what do you call it, where the players sit at the podium? What do you call it? Oh, yeah, press day.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah, so press day, I'm a correspondent for Inside the NFL. So our last show in Philly was today. So I'm like, you know what, before I do this seven-day stretch in New Orleans, let me go somewhere real quick, reset, recharge,
Starting point is 00:56:24 so I'm ready to hit the ground running. Yeah, just give us. Yeah, okay. Just give us. So you're going to take a break after Sunday? It's almost Sunday? No, I don't know. What break?
Starting point is 00:56:35 No, I'm going to keep. No, I'm just saying. No, I don't need no break. I'm just telling you, I'm taking a little vacation. I'm doing nightcap from where I'm going. Okay. I'm saying. We got a show tomorrow, right? Yes. I'm telling you, I'm taking a little vacation. I'm doing nightcap from where I'm going. Okay. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:46 We got a show tomorrow, right? Yes. I'm saying when I take a vacation. Oh, you really, you really take a vacation. I'm going, yes. You're going to have to, you and a co-host going to have to run the show. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. I'm okay with that.
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Starting point is 00:59:16 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
Starting point is 01:00:32 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Aaron Johnson and hey I love the show without saying a team in your own division which team's fans
Starting point is 01:01:31 were the hardest to deal with Raiders because most if you didn't know better, you thought they just had a field day at San Quentin
Starting point is 01:01:49 and they let them out for like two hours. Hold on. It says, Ocho Witch, Love to Show Witch, without saying a team in your own division.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Hold on. Patriots. Patriots? Patriots? Yeah, they were annoying. Did you ever play the Patriots in New England? Yeah. Did you?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah. Yeah. Twice at that. Yeah. I I mean I probably yeah the Patriots cause uh I'm trying to think I mean I played the Giants
Starting point is 01:02:38 played the Jets nah Patriots Patriots and that was before Ocho they had really like started they had won the Super Bowl like we played them in 93 no we played them in 94
Starting point is 01:02:55 man we played the Patriots for a team that's not in our division Ocho we played them in 94 no no we played them in 95 96 97 95, 96, 97. 95, 96, 97 and 98. So we played them
Starting point is 01:03:10 like four consecutive years. I remember one year, Ocho, this was a very strange rule the NFL had. We weren't in the division and we played the Patriots twice. Hmm. The Ham? Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yep. Played them twice. hmm the ham yeah yeah played him twice i think it was 91 91 i think it was 91 we played him twice what fans were you had you say was the hardest to deal with none of them none of them it's it's it's funny on or it didn't happen till later on in my career let's maybe maybe about year four year four or five the fan the opposing fans were more excited for me to come to the stadium just to see what the hell i was gonna do next right there was no there was no um fu or you know ocho stinko or any of that stuff but but all right with none of that now the craziest fans now not part of my division that it was exciting because you didn't know what to expect once you got there was that goddamn black hole in Oakland. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Man, they was crazy. They were terrible. It was crazy. They were terrible. That's about it. They were terrible, man. The Raiders fans, man, they're terrible. I mean, you love them.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I mean, I think they're special. And, like, the people that be dressing up. And they're not like, I mean, these people are like doctors and lawyers. These are, like, really prominent people. And they got on face paint. They're like, what the heck is that? But, yeah, the black hole, you had to be a part of it to see it. Isaiah Lancaster, what's good, Okonocu?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Who are your top ten quarterbacks in the NFC, and where would you rate Jalen Hurts in Eagle history among quarterbacks with Super Bowl win? Well, they ain't got but one with a Super Bowl win, and that's Mick Foles. Yeah. Top 10 quarterbacks in the NFC is too much. Just say top five.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah. Who are your top five quarterbacks? I mean, let me see. Let me think of the NFC. too much. Just say top five. Yeah. Who are your top five quarterbacks? I mean, let me see. Let me think of the NFC. Goff, Stafford, Jalen. No particular goddamn order, man. Goff, Stafford, Jalen,
Starting point is 01:05:16 Jordan Love. You got Jaden Daniels, Brock Purdy, Baker Mayfield. I'm going Jaden. Oh, man. Ooh, it get tricky.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Let me throw Jaden in there. Jordan Love, Jaden Daniels, Jaden Hurts. No particular order. Goff. Who should I go? Purdy or Stafford? Whoever you want to. Stafford's won a Super Bowl. I mean, I would
Starting point is 01:05:51 take Stafford over Purdy. That's just me. Okay, I'm going to go Stafford. I mean, just you know, people would be like, ah, why you? I'll take Stafford, yeah. Yeah. Mr. E197676 here's the tip jar
Starting point is 01:06:09 thanks for everything you do Shannon Ocho stay pressing forward appreciate you bro J213 hey Uncle Ocho what are some old school haircuts you don't see anymore I just saw someone with a shag and someone with a double hairline whoa
Starting point is 01:06:24 listen shag is still with a double hairline Whoa, whoa, whoa Listen, shag is still alive and well in Texas now The shag is still alive and well in Texas. It's a cut that everyone still gets What I haven't seen in a very long time is the Gumby. Remember the Gumby? Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:39 The Gumby and the high top fade. I don't see that I don't see about a high top fade Oh, you're talking about like kid and play high top fade top fade I don't see that I don't talk about The high top fade Oh you're talking about Like he didn't play High top fade huh Yeah I don't see that no more
Starting point is 01:06:49 Obviously you don't see The afro Nah The natural afro You don't see that Often anymore Which you don't see More of
Starting point is 01:07:01 I'm trying to think. Shoot, that's about all I can think about. Yeah. I mean, look, this is all I've ever had, so... Barney Porter wasn't playing that. And when he passed away, Mary Porter wasn't having that. Then I just got to the point like you know I kind of like this it's different I ain't go through
Starting point is 01:07:28 I ain't have no jerry curl I ain't have no box I never had braids or any twists or anything like that all I've ever had was a fade part boom you know it used to be Michael Irvin Michael done went and got braids this man he in the midlife crisis now all of a sudden he got
Starting point is 01:07:43 58 years old. He got twists. Man, Mike, you gonna sit your ass down? I was like, first of all, you can't have twists if you gotta use Beijing. That should be the first rule of thumb. If you gotta use Beijing, sit your ass down. Don't you get no twists in your head.
Starting point is 01:08:00 But right now, ain't but two people got a haircut like this. Me and Mr. Farrakhan. That's it. Hey, Luis, Luis, y'all do have the same cut now that I think about it. Rest that thing to the side. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Gary Coleman, rest his soul. He used to have one. Sean Smith said, do you think Mahomes would ever have been as dominant in a defensive-driven league like Tom had to play against the Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Giants, or even the Colts with Bob Sanders? Yeah, he great.
Starting point is 01:08:32 A quarterback like that is a quarterback in any era. Just like Joe Montana. Was Joe Montana dominant? And he played in the 80s when there was no rule, there was no protection. None.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Zero. Yes. Mahomes is great. In any era. So underscore case. What's up guys? My question is, I know my harness played LaMelo Ball already, but how can the harness attract a superstar
Starting point is 01:09:03 talent to a savvy to help him out before he even thinks about leaving? I just don't see it, bro. Don't see it. It's a small market. You got a small market. You got to do like the Spurs.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Draft Tim Duncan. Draft Manu Ginobili. Draft Tony Duncan. Draft Manu Ginobili. Draft Tony Parker. Draft Kawhi Leonard. And have David Robinson. I mean, I'll be honest. I just got to be honest. It wasn't really no free agents going to these places.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And back then, it wasn't like free agency like it is now. But no, it ain't, you know. Will E. said, speaking of touchdowns, those sparks just touched down by the latest SmackDown on WWE Raw. That's what I'm talking about, Will. That's what I'm talking about. Whoa, whoa. Hey, hold on.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Now, I put my order in, right? Yeah. Let me look at my email. Hold on, let me see my email. Confirm my purchase. They didn't send me no email? Oh, there it is. Chad, thanks for choosing Rowe.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Invoice? It came to $186,000. I don't know why it came to $186, but I ain't tripping, you know? That's $180 real spent. So it don't tell, how long before they get here? Probably a couple of days. Okay, okay, okay. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:10:38 You think it'll be here? So before I leave? Yeah. You had it be there. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Aaron, all I'm saying, I just want to say, keep doing what you guys are doing. Love watching and interacting with Nightcap.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Hopefully, see you guys soon at a show. Aaron, come on down to New Orleans, bro. We're going to be there. We going to be there. Got to be there. That concludes this episode of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit the nearest Boost Mobile store or BoostMobile.com to join the nationwide 5G network. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode.
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