Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Deion Sanders speaks on his sons NFL future, Kim Mulkey lashes out

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Deion sanders saying he will help geuide where Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunters will go in next years NFL Draft, Kim Mulkey lashing out about a... potential Washington Post exposé and much more! 0:30 Deion on where he sons could get drafted and where he wants them to go9:30 Kim Mulkey on reporter looking to publish article about her22:40 Bill Self admits he’s been looking ahead to next season27:00 Jalen Green will reportedly have 3 kids this year36:00 Which place has the best wings?49:50 Q and Ayyyyy1:00:00 Much More Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:18 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:01:51 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a very interesting topic, Ocho. Coach Prime said there are certain teams his stars, Jadur Sanders and Travis Hunter, won't play for. Let's take a listen to Coach O. Coach Prime said there are certain teams his stars, Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, won't play for.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Let's take a listen to Coach Prime. Where do you predict Shador and Travis going in the draft? Top four. Ooh, that's beautiful. Anywhere from one through four. One of them is going to be one. That's what I'm talking about. One of them is going to be one.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Let's speak it into existence. And the latter one would not go behind four. Now, all this is subjective because I know where I want
Starting point is 00:03:13 kind of want them to go. And let's not forget Shallow, okay? But I know where I want them to go. So in certain cities that ain't ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Okay, you want to point? It's gonna be, I'm sorry, it's gonna be an Eli. Come on now. That was Coach Prime on Million Dollars Worth the Game podcast with Gillian Wallow. I like it.
Starting point is 00:03:40 What's your thought? First, in today's game, I don't know if a corner or wide receiver will ever go over number one game, I don't know if a corner or wide receiver will ever go over number one again because I believe they'll take a quarterback or a defensive player. D. Lyman, Miles Garrett, the Aaron Donalds. You know what I'm saying? I believe that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But I get what he's saying. He's saying he believes that Shador and Trav, somewhere between one and four. What are your thoughts on what he said? Go ahead. Well, I think Shador would be the one going first. I would think so. I would think Shador would be the one going first. And Travis Hunter is such a special player.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He's such a special player. Obviously, someone that can play on both sides of the ball. And I think there's value in that for an NFL team that knows how to use him correctly, being able to do what Deion Sanders did, being able to do what Champ Bailey was able to do as well. We haven't seen it much in this day, but it would be good to bring it back and have a two-way player like him that is really good on both sides of the ball. I'm sure he will have a specific position that he is required to play, which I think will be DB, as opposed to receiver, he's really good.
Starting point is 00:04:47 He's really good. Now, as far as what Prime is saying, he is one of the few people in the history of the game, along with Archie Manning, that can pull off exactly what he said. Yes. I believe it. Because he understands
Starting point is 00:05:00 it could be more harmful than good based on where his son went to play quarterback because he understands the development and the importance of being in the right organization for one understanding what they have offensively for two and how that organization and management is run it's very important it's very imperative that your quarterback, or his son in this case, goes to the right place. Very important. And he already knows what those places are.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I'm not sure. We could probably break it down. We can eliminate the team that you know don't need a quarterback. And we could talk about the ones that do. What do you think? What do you think about it? This has only happened a handful of time. My agent,
Starting point is 00:05:51 the agent that I have now, he handled the John, the John Elway situation when John was drafted number one overall by the Baltimore Colts. So he wasn't going to play there, but there are a lot of, there were a lot of things. There are a lot of,
Starting point is 00:06:04 there was a lot of things because if you remember the baltimore coast the next year moved to indy they knew some things were going on behind the scenes that a lot of people didn't know okay so he says i i don't really want to be a part of that and then we have fast forward 2004. So we look at about 20 plus years later, we see Eli Archie. Eli is like, look, I don't want to be in San Diego. I don't want to be at the charges.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I don't know if he didn't want to be in San Diego or wanted to be in the AFC. I want to be an NFC away from my brother. So that way, if we have to meet, we're going to meet in the Superbowl. We're not going to knock one of us out of an opportunity to play in the Super Bowl. So whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:06:47 For me, I'd probably just be happy. Look, we all want our kids to go to the best situation, Ocho. But you understand as your kid is great, you're probably going to go to a crappy team.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Especially if you're going to be the number one pick. You're not going to be James Worthy. You're not going to be James Worthy and go to a team that won the championship the year before. He went to the Lakers and he was the number one pick. That doesn't happen in football. The number one pick, Kansas City is not getting the number one pick. You know what I'm saying? That's not happen in football. The number one pick, Kansas City is not getting the number one pick. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's not going to happen. And so, and I get what he's saying that, look, he's already, he's been on record saying, I want my son to play in somewhere that's, if it's cold weather,
Starting point is 00:07:36 it needs to be a dome. But if it's going to be cold and it's outside, I mean, if he's going to be outside, I kind of want it to be warm weather. Right. Now, can he pull it off twice? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:53 One day might give it. I don't know if he's going to be able to do it twice. Damn. I'm curious. I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for Shador. I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for Shador. I'm excited for Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Hell, I want to see the season. I know the season is going to be crazy. The season is going to be crazy. So I'm excited for both of them. And I can't wait. Now I want to know. I want to see Mel Kiper's board and his draft stuff and all that stuff is probably not going to come out until a little later, especially if Shador plays well, which I'm sure they will do based on some of the changes in recruits that they've gotten over there in Colorado. So I could see him going one, especially if he plays well.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. one especially if he plays well yeah and so i just like like i said for me prime has always been hand-on with his kids i ain't got no problem that's how he he's like that um lavar ball has always been hands-on with his kid um archie was hands-on with his kid except payton payton made the decision on his own because I met Archie at the Super Bowl in Miami. The year the Super Bowl was in Miami. I had to be like 94, I think. The Chargers played 49ers. So I think that was like
Starting point is 00:09:17 94. And he's like, let Peyton make his own decision. Peyton wanted to go to Tennessee. Didn't want to be in his dad's shadow. But I would just, I stay out of it. I stay out of it. Look, the one thing I know about Prime, I don't know a whole lot of other coaches that play,
Starting point is 00:09:38 but I know this one. I know this dude. He don't care what y'all think. Oh, no, at all. Man, stay out of it. Let that man, you ain't no archer. Prime don't care what y'all think oh no at all man stay out of it let that man you ain't no archie prime don't care
Starting point is 00:09:47 prime gonna do what he absolutely believes is in the best interest of his kids so you can say he's LeVar Ball you can say he's a combination
Starting point is 00:09:55 of Archie Manning or whomever else prime don't care nah he don't he doesn't he doesn't and I don't know how
Starting point is 00:10:02 that he but nothing bothers him nah He doesn't. He doesn't. And I don't know how that he... But nothing bothers him. No. And I know he sees it. I know he sees it. And if he doesn't see it, I know somebody else sees it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I know he hears it. If he doesn't hear it, somebody else hears it. Yeah. But he's always been that way. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. None of this is about... Because it was like this when he was playing. They were talking when he was playing.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah. He didn't care. Refused to change. Never has. But you know what it is? Things that... I let things slide. But now when you bring my kids into the equation,
Starting point is 00:10:35 see, now we're talking about something different. Right. Now we got a whole different element at play, Ocho. Mm-hmm. Because the thing that didn't bother me, now you're dealing with them because everything i do is for this right and we try to shield them for all the nonsense that we have to deal with and a lot of times we deal with it so they don't have to have to yeah but that's
Starting point is 00:10:56 going to be hard it's going to be hard to shield them because you know what media is different your last name is oh yeah oh people you can't people won't take these shots. I'm going to give you some of this, what I gave him. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's coming. By the way, you can't get away from that. I think the kids, Shador, Shiloh, they're built for that. So they probably not going to allow that to bother them either because they've been brought up that way to understand
Starting point is 00:11:21 this is what comes with the territory. Shiloh said, I've been his son my whole life. I've had to deal, I've been a Sanders. I've had to deal with this throughout the entirety. So what changes? The only thing changes,
Starting point is 00:11:38 the games become a little bit more important. The dollar amount I'm making is a little higher, but nothing changes. Right. I'm Shador Sanders amount I'm making is a little higher, but nothing changes. I'm Shador Sanders. I'm Coach Prime's son. Some people are going to like me. Some people are not.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Just because they didn't like him. So if you don't like him, hey, you're not going to like me. That's just the way it is. But they've done a great job of handling it. And Coach Prime has done a great job of blocking the sound out. Kim Mulkey threatens the Washington Post with a lawsuit during a four-minute tirade over an unpublished article. Kim did the opposite of making people uninterested in the article.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Let's hear what she had to say, Ocho. Come on, talk. Talk it, Mama. This reporter has been working on a story about me for two years. After two years of trying to get me to sit with him for an interview, he contacts LSU on Tuesday as we were getting ready for the first round game of this tournament with more than a dozen questions, demanding a response Thursday, right before we're scheduled to tip off. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:12:53 Hold on. If I'm not mistaken, she said the reporter has been trying to get her to sit for two years. Two. So at any point in time, did she ask the reporter, can you shoot me some questions? Right. But it's probably a reporter
Starting point is 00:13:13 that she really don't get along with because it seems like the reporter... She don't get along with anyone. Yeah, the reporter trying to be a little devious. It seemed like the reporter had some information on her that he doesn't want to reveal, that I'm assuming only he knows, which I doubt. It's just him that knows no one else's borders hurt the world's attention.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But I think he's trying to use it as as bait to get some of the questions he wants answered. This is how you and did it. Did he release it yet? No, come out. But here's the thing. Now, tell me what you think people want to do Now tell me what you think people want to do. Tell me what you think people want to read, Ocho. This article.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, most definitely. So let me get this straight, Ocho. So for two years, he was uninterested in anything this man might potentially have to say. Now all of a sudden... You're interested. Now, all of a sudden... You're interested. Well, damn!
Starting point is 00:14:08 Well, I think the fact that he called the school, now that takes it to a whole different level. Now you're calling my employer, chastising them about some questions. So now they voted to my attention to ask me,
Starting point is 00:14:24 well, what the hell is going on with this reporter? Okay, so now you crossing the line. Now you're affecting my job and my workplace because now you got LSU involved. So now I got to take care of this and address something
Starting point is 00:14:38 that really has no legs. Or maybe it does. Maybe this table does have legs. Here's the thing. I think she got wind that there are some disgruntled players that's a part of this article. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You think they're talking about her? What did I tell you? Who will tell you the truth, Ocho? Drunks, kids, and angry people. Now, she's dealing with two of them. Kids and angry. She got two out of three. Now, if they've been sipping them. Kids and angry. She got two of the three. Now, if they've been sipping on
Starting point is 00:15:07 some of that O'Shea by LaPorte, she got the trifecta. She in a heap of trouble. Why would... Okay, you're right. I'm not even going to go there. But obviously, the players that might be upset
Starting point is 00:15:20 would be the ones that aren't really contributing to the success of the team. That's normally how that works. That's normally how that works. That's normally how that happens, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, that could possibly be true. And a lot of times when people are disgruntled, everything that the disgruntled person might be saying is true. But a lot of times people will disregard it because you are disgruntled. Not saying that Kim Mulkey, whatever they say, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I have no, I'm not privy to any insider information. But what they say, it might be true, everything verbatim. But because you're angry, I'm going to disregard it. Right. Damn. I'm trying to sit here and I'm thinking to myself, like, what can it be? Because it has to be somewhat important for her to even address it because the table didn't have any legs.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And the fact that what you did just now in addressing it through the media, because the reporter called your school, it might give the table legs when there were no legs to begin with. But it has to be something important that she knows if it gets out, this might not look right. If he's giving you a deadline, we need to come out and say this
Starting point is 00:16:37 or answer these questions because these certain players might have said something. But like of all time, the timing ain't right though. Of all time to do that. Oh, Joe. People like
Starting point is 00:16:50 Kimoke, myself, yourself, high value individuals. If somebody's trying to get in touch with us over and over and it might have something, that's what we got lawyers for.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Contact my lawyer. Give him the questions. Let me look them over. He and I, she and I have a conversation. What's the damage? If I answer these questions, what's the damage if I don't? I like that. I like that. You know it's very difficult as a coach to know nothing about it just hypothetically speaking if it is players that are unhappy with the way the way things were
Starting point is 00:17:35 run it's very very difficult when you're in a winning environment to keep everybody happy yeah for sure it sure. It's very difficult. So there's always going to be something that can be said unless it's just something outrageous or egregious that was going on or being done. But I really can't see that happening, especially with a woman's basketball coach. I'm not sure how bad it actually could have been. But it's very difficult when things are going well and
Starting point is 00:18:06 it's a bunch of women and everyone just be happy me some people might not be happy with their role some people might not be happy with the decreased minutes or or maybe be maybe her showing favoritism to other players civic players for that matter who are doing really well ain't no telling what it is now i'm curious. Well, this might go back because she's only been at LSU for two years. This probably going to have something to do with some former Baylor players where she spent a majority of her
Starting point is 00:18:34 career. Wait. Baylor? Mm-hmm. Oh shit, my bad. I ain't trying to hear about no Baylor, man. Yeah. I ain't trying to hear about what happened back my bad. I ain't trying to hear about no bailer, man. Yeah, but you... I ain't trying to hear about what happened back then. A lot of people going to want to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You're a public figure, Ocho. People want to hear about... People want to hear about any transgressions you may or may not have had. That's the society we live in, Ocho. Damn. I don't like that, bro. I don't like that. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:19:05 That's why you don't run for public office if you got things that you tried to cover up. Because, see, no man can outrun his past. Because all he does is make you tired when he catches up with you. Ooh! And you see, you wonder why...
Starting point is 00:19:22 I'm done, Ocho. I'm done. I ain't got no more bars for you tonight, Ocho. The only bar I got for you is a Nessun Crunch. I got a Nessun Crunch run the way. I'm done, Ocho. I'm done. I ain't got no more bars for you tonight, Ocho. Okay. The only bar I got for you is a Nessun Crunch. I got a Nessun Crunch in the refrigerator. Okay. I like you. I like where you're going.
Starting point is 00:19:31 See, that's why I'm running for office. I'm going to run for office. I'm going to, yeah. No, I ain't running for nothing. No? I'm running my miles. That's all I got to run. You know, we growing up,
Starting point is 00:19:45 how you leave the car, run it out of the car. I already leave my car on the 9-11. I'm scared somebody going to jump in and take off. I remember, look, when we growing up,
Starting point is 00:19:55 we didn't, not even just growing up, I'm talking about probably up to like 15, 10 years ago. I go in the gas station, leave my car, leave key in the car,
Starting point is 00:20:04 leave everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish I might have. Oh, not today. Hell no. Leave what running? At the gas... Listen, there was a time
Starting point is 00:20:11 where it was okay. Yes. There was a time where it was okay where you could leave your car running, walk in the gas station, buy your Snickers, buy your Coke. Now?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yes. Or your car be gone, right? Out of there. Nothing. I don't leave... No, I can't. No, no no you can't leave nothing in the car i only leave the car out into my driveway i'm not gonna give anybody any incentive sometimes sometimes ojo you have to protect people
Starting point is 00:20:40 from themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what's really bad about that? I think about human nature. I think about people that make mistakes in life, that go through their trials and their tribulations, their peaks, their valleys,
Starting point is 00:21:00 their highs, their lows, and then they reach a certain point in life where there's something that they want to achieve and they they do everything they can to attain whatever that dream may be sometimes it's in political office sometimes it's a high school coach or a college coach and then the past and that journey to get to that that that pinnacle or that point of something that you've already dreamed of or worked for but then the past come back to and haunt you we all we're not
Starting point is 00:21:31 perfect huh no for sure we're not perfect we all make mistakes human error is inevitable we do everything we can and try not to fuck up but at times in life we make mistakes. You've made them. Hell, I've made them. You know, and it's just a part of life. If life came with a fucking instruction booklet, we'd all be perfect. It doesn't come with an instruction booklet. Even if it does, how many people read the instructions
Starting point is 00:21:58 to when they get something? So even if life came with instructions or directions, how many people actually follow them? Boy, you talking there. You talking there. Come on there. It's Sunday.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Go ahead. We know everything. Can't nobody tell you nothing. Yeah. Oh, he think he know more than me. What the hell? Do it yourself. That's just the way that, that's how we are. That's how we are that's how we are we hate yeah i mean it's almost like i hate to try to give people advice because like you're not gonna listen to anything i want to say
Starting point is 00:22:39 it's like when people ask me shannon well how do you eat well i say well you know i eat this in the morning and then I eat this. Man, what about pizza? Man, you know I got to have a CC? Now, you just asked me, how do I eat? How do I stay and look like I can still play even though I can't? I'm trying to tell you, but you don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So, even if life had an instruction manual, how many people you actually think would read it, Ocho, and then follow it? That then follow it. That was a good one. That was a good one. That's crazy. Most of the time, we take stuff out of the box. We're going to try to do it
Starting point is 00:23:15 ourselves. Especially if it's something you're familiar with. If it's something you're familiar with, you're going to try to put it together by yourself. And then once you F it up, oh, that's what I was supposed to do. Kind of like life. You make the mistakes
Starting point is 00:23:30 and you go back and correct them. See what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm with you when you're right now. That one thing about it. I'm with you when you're right. So, I don't...
Starting point is 00:23:41 Like I said, since she found out, potentially found out that there were players participating. While the players are disgruntled, news organizations grant people anonymity to speak freely about people in power without fear of retribution or retaliation. And this is an example why. But here's the thing. Listen, whistleblowers have been really really good they helped a lot whistleblowers what we got uh with watergate deep throat did the country a huge service yes sir but we already know what happens that person is never the same. That person's family is never the same.
Starting point is 00:24:26 No, no, absolutely not. Especially at that level. Especially at that level. No, no, no. So, you know, you want to have anonymity. You want to be able to speak freely without retaliation or retribution. And this is why you do that. Because Kim Mulkey, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:42 she's a powerful figure. Mm-hmm. Like I said, that because Kim Mulkey, you know, she's a powerful figure. Like I said, I probably wouldn't have read it but because she's so animated, I got to see what they're talking about now because you got to be interested, don't you? I mean, I ain't really got time. I got a lot of other stuff that I need
Starting point is 00:24:59 to read and prepare for, but I'm going to see what they say. Here's what it is. Bill. It's unfortunate. Go ahead. You want to add something? No, I was saying, I was saying, I was just saying it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It's unfortunate. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there,
Starting point is 00:25:48 and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask...
Starting point is 00:26:47 I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bill Self admits to looking forward to next season. Bill Self put his foot in his mouth Saturday after Kansas was eliminated from the second round of the NCAA tournament with a blowout loss to Gonzaga.
Starting point is 00:27:38 During the press conference, Self was asked if he's ready looking forward to next season. Let's take a listen to his answer. For the last month, I've been thinking about next season, to be honest, not in the moments during the game, but, you know, obviously we played, we had eight guys on scholarship and we play, I mean, that were healthy there late and, you know, injuries are part of the game.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So that's not an excuse. But we could have done a much better job as a staff putting more guys out there that we could play. Man, what buddy talking about, huh? Tell me so we both know. So you was thinking about next season. So what should the players have been thinking about? He did say he was thinking about next season, not during the game.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Okay. What should the players been thinking about not during the game? If the coach thinking about it, aren't we a reflection of our coaches? Don't we take on the personality? I've heard it all the time. I'm sure you heard it. You are a reflection. You take on the personality of your coach. So if that's what he's thinking about,
Starting point is 00:28:45 that's probably why they have their ass home. Because that's what they were thinking about. It's okay. Everything that comes up doesn't have to come out on show. He could have kept that. I don't know what he thought was going to happen. Like, oh my goodness, Bill Siff is already thinking about next year.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He got to have something to say. But obviously, if you out the tournament already, well, obviously you might want to be moving on to next year. You might want to. And then he says, well, I think what we could have done is we planned some of the players that didn't play. So obviously what you're telling us is that the players that didn't play weren't good enough to give you a chance to win. I mean, I put that in, you might as well just call a spade a spade instead of saying some of the things that you're saying.
Starting point is 00:29:39 But listen, Kansas is good, right? They were once good, if I'm not mistaken. Kansas, North Carolina, Duke, Michigan. I'm not sure if those same teams are still the cream of the crop or the creme de la creme when it comes to college basketball. Or has things changed? Is UConn still up there? Yeah, UConn is the number one seed. They're number one overall. They're number one overall.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They're looking to repeat. The Blue Bloods, the Kansas, that's Kansas. They got sent home. Kentucky got sent home. Duke's still in it. Carolina's still in it. Okay, okay, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Damn. I don't, like I said, I don't know what he coach would be thinking bro that's not a good look so I'm thinking about going there bro you already said oh you was thinking about next season and during the season yeah he tripping he probably might come
Starting point is 00:30:42 back and clean it up what I tell you word spoken indeed he it up he can't clean that up what I tell you, word spoken and deeds done you can't get that back if I'm in court, you the attorney you the attorney and I say something you jump up and say, object the judge says, sustain the jury already heard it
Starting point is 00:30:59 how you make them unhear what I already said he'll probably try to come back and clarify I guarantee you. That's okay. I already heard what he said. If this catches any flack or not flack or just gets any kind of movement and traction,
Starting point is 00:31:13 he don't come back and clarify what he meant. Watch. Guarantee you. Always happens. What'd he say? What did he say? What did he say what did he say he said
Starting point is 00:31:26 he was thinking about next season thinking about next season okay how he clean that up better than me you know better than me but he gonna find some way to say it you know better than me
Starting point is 00:31:38 it happens all the time yeah sure I can't even be mad check this out It happens all the time. Yeah, sure. I can't even be mad at you. Check this out. A model claims she had Jalen Green's baby last month. What'd she look like? I mean, maybe you got to type. But a model claims she has Jalen Green's baby last month.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Uh-oh. While a stripper claims she and Drea have the same due date. Okay. If true, Jalen Green will have three kids and a 12-month span. Oh, he think he mean. He think he mean. Hey, man, that baby over working overtime. He working overtime, mocho.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, he working overtime. Listen, you're young, you're 22, you're getting it out the way. He was serving up a lot of baby gravy. And I told you, them young boys with that baby gravy, you see what happened? Three of them. Do you think this is true?
Starting point is 00:32:35 What you think? I don't know. I don't think women would have a reason to lie. What you think? No? No? Yes? Hey, man. Hey, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You, man, listen. Young bull, young bull out there, man. Listen, I... Yeah. You beat that literally. You beat that literally. Listen, the game is the game, man. The game has always been the game, man.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's just... It's what it is. I mean, how many times have we seen that? I can't even be mad at him. I ain't mad at him. You notice I can't even say nothing. The game is the game. This has been going on for years. Sometimes, listen, we all have decisions that we make. Hey, you think
Starting point is 00:33:20 you're invisible, Ocho? You're like, I ain't gonna go half way. I'm just practicing. Yeah, all right. Yeah, yeah. Practice. Practice hell. And score it every time.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Every time. You never know. And then, and what you're going to see and what you're going to notice is, is you're going to see these individual true colors come out. That's what you're going to see.
Starting point is 00:33:40 You're going to see these individual true colors come out because when you're this young, you ain't even lived life yet. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, sir, you ain't lived life yet. I don't think he promised me anything.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And if it is, you take... Somebody 21 or 22 and they promise, man, you take that with a grain of salt. Ain't nobody... I'm going to be with you for the rest of my life, man. Stop that. Shit, be with who? Be who what?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Child, please. I might not see you tomorrow. You talking about the rest of my life, man. Stop that. Be with who? Be who what? Child, please. I might not see you tomorrow. You talking about the rest of my life? What the hell are you talking about? What the hell are y'all talking about? What the hell are y'all talking about? Man. Hey, boy, you hell. I might not see you tomorrow. Talk about it for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Be with you forever. Man, please. Man, y rest of my life. Be with you forever. Man, please. Man, I'm going to stop. This. Hey, because the thing is, Ocho, I ain't looking. I've been there. Exactly where Jalen Green.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Man, Ocho. Ocho. Shanna. Yeah. Exactly where Jalen Green. Man, Ocho. Shannon. Yeah. I'm pregnant. Damn. All right. Shannon.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I'm pregnant. Damn. All right. Hey, that was a good one. I might not see you tomorrow. Shannon. Oh, God. Somebody lied.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Ain't no way I... Ocho, I'm thinking, ain't no way I got this kind of look. Right, right, right, right. Oh, shit. Hey, boy, you got me crying with that one, boy. God damn. Man, please. Hey, bro, hey, all I know is whatever the case is, he been balling. He dropped 42, came back with a 41.
Starting point is 00:35:28 He done body bag somebody, raining threes. Hey, well, he cutting up on that field, right? I mean, I'm talking about the field. He cutting up on that court. Yeah. He cutting up on that court. He cutting up on the court. He playing the field. Yep. But like you say, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:35:50 when you, hey, you know what? I ain't moving to Houston. I was thinking about moving to Houston. I ain't going. You changed your mind? I changed my mind. But actually, you know what? Listen, you in a different place in life. You know, you're a lot more mature. Your decision making is a lot sharper. You see that was a bar right
Starting point is 00:36:06 there sharper sharper yeah but i'm sharp i'm still a man yeah you'll be fine you'll be fine i ain't no no ocho it's like a drunk why would i move why would i move next to a bar i've been sober i've been sober i've been sober for all these years because here here's the thing, when you're an addict, Ocho, guess what? Every day, I got to drive by five bars, six liquor stores, every single day for the rest of my life. But you
Starting point is 00:36:35 got discipline. That's something that's different. You done lived it already. So you can move to Houston because you know what... I'm still living. Yo. Oh, yeah. Oh, Yo. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You ain't living. Hey, listen. You alive? You alive, but you ain't living. I'll leave you that. You alive, but you ain't living. Now, there's a difference, man. You might be living in terms of what you may think living is, but you ain't really out there yet. You ain't living. Now, there's a difference, man. Now, you might be living in terms of what you may think living is,
Starting point is 00:37:06 but you ain't really out there yet. You ain't out there. Ocho, think about it now. I mean, this might give you a little indication. Not one of now that she had just had a baby. So that tells me
Starting point is 00:37:17 that she has the potential to be messy because she could have kept this quiet, let Jalen Green do what he going to do, take it out. We got this other one, say her due date is the same time. That's messy.
Starting point is 00:37:28 So that's the potential. Right. So you already know what time it is. I told you, I told you their true colors are going to come out. What you mean come out? Their true colors, I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:37 shit, you already knew what time it was anyway. You understand. Well, maybe you didn't understand. Or maybe you thought, maybe they really like me for me. Come on now. You got to understand. Or maybe he thought, maybe they really like me for me. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You got to understand. You got to see the vision. In order to understand, you got to think like them. It ain't you. It's what you can do. Yes. They think in long term.
Starting point is 00:37:58 They think in long term. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why they think... You got to understand, okay? Why do you like them? Hmm. You wanted to be a one-sided transaction. Oh, no, sir. Never that.
Starting point is 00:38:14 What is 18 years, nigga? Oh, my bad. Sorry. My bad. I'm sorry. But, yeah. He's going to be fine. He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. mean, he's going to be fine. He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. Listen, he's not the first and he won't be the last.
Starting point is 00:38:30 No. Not the first and won't be the last. No. I mean, them young boys, they balling down there. I mean, I just need what you call a man. Look, bro. Who that? Look, you're 21.
Starting point is 00:38:44 He's probably like 20 how old Jalen Green 22 22 that's it 22 he gonna be alright he just turned 22 yeah he gonna be alright just turned 22 just turned it
Starting point is 00:39:00 yeah yeah he gonna be fine he gonna be alright damn half a goat yo that's what i'm saying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i am glad i mean you have a lot of people you have a lot of people that would have so much to say uh you know women be like oh what are you doing uh you flipping all these women blah blah blah you're gonna have certain certain men that would never be in this position to even understand well if i was jaylen green that would be your hair your hair hair yes you motherfucking would you don't know
Starting point is 00:39:33 i mean you don't know i don't like you don't you don't know what that situation oh i wouldn't do unless you're in that situation you can't say what what you would or wouldn't do because you've never been there. No, I don't think these fellas or the women understand. These are athletes, multi-million dollar athletes with access to the cream of the crop.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You are 1% and you get to pick and choose. You get to look down and pick and choose who you want to deal with. And ain't nobody telling you no. Nobody. They not. Hell. I mean, you could change anybody, motherfucking life.
Starting point is 00:40:12 What a little check. How much you need? $30,000, $50,000, $100,000? Yeah. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody. Everybody ain't making that. No.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Ain't nobody turning them niggas. God, what is wrong with me? Ain't nobody turning those dudes down. No. Just life. It's always been that way me? Ain't nobody turn those dudes down. No. Just life. It's always been that way. And it will continue to be that way. Keep working hard, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Hey. You're about to be a father. You already won. You're about to be a father. If these reports are true, you're about to be a father three times over. Hmm. Be a father.
Starting point is 00:40:44 But, hey, on that court, he balling. He's got to be here. be a father but hey on that court he balling gotta be here that's what it's been so far so he good okay Ocho which of these restaurants have the best wings
Starting point is 00:40:58 this is not a ranking and order there's just a list of options okay you got Wingstops American Deli JR Crickets Hooters in an order. There's just a list of options. Okay, you got Wingstops, American Deli, JR Crickets, Hooters, Millers,
Starting point is 00:41:13 House of Wings, Harold's Chicken Shack, Zaxby's, Buffalo Wild Wings, Twin Peaks. Ooh, that's a good one. Listen, Wingstop has a variety of different types of wings. They got a lot of flavors. A hundred flavors.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So just because they have such a different array of things you can choose from, I'm just going to put Wingstop first because of that. Okay. So that's like a one-stop shop where you can go somewhere and get any goddamn thing you want. Any flavor of wings. Any flavor of wing, I'm sorry. Any flavor of wing you want. Now, number two for me.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Now, there's some places on here I never even heard of and never been to. I never heard of GR Crickets. I don't know what the hell American Deli is. I know what Hooters is. Miller's, the only Miller's
Starting point is 00:42:01 I know is Ale House. I'm not sure that's the same Miller's i'm talking about house of wings i never heard that as well uh zaxby's i've heard of zaxby but i never had wings there so for me my number two i thought they just did tenders i know i've never had zaxby wings either no yeah well same thing so for me twin peaks in which where i frequent all the time purposely to watch soccer and smoke my cigars i I'm sure they're probably going to see this. All my people at Twin Peaks, right over here in Pines, and they have one over here in Durrell as well. They make my wings the way I like. The way I like. I like my wings grilled. I like six. That's all I need. You like flats or drum ass? I like flats. I like flats. They make my six flats
Starting point is 00:42:48 and I'm good to go get my caffeine on, let's say, get my cigar and my goddamn coke with no ice and I'm good. Now, as far as the other places, Hooters, I haven't had wings from Hooters. Oh my God. It's been years. It's been years. It's probably been- A very long time. I can't remember the last time I've been to Hooters. It's been years. It's been years. It's probably been a very long time. I can't remember the last time I've been to Hooters. It's been that long? Probably 20 years. Maybe longer. Maybe longer.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah, it's been a minute. I ain't been to Hooters in a long time. In chat, if you guys are familiar with some of these other restaurants, I would... Man, I ain't heard about more than three of these places. Wait, what is Harold's Chicken Shack? Where's that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Where is Harold's? I never heard of American Deli. I heard of Jerry's Deli. I ain't seen Jerry's Deli. It used to be a Jerry's Deli on the beach. That closed down. I ain't seen a Jerry's Deli since. Miller's.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I know about Miller's Alehouse. Yeah. I don't know what Miller's is. I ain about Miller's Ale House. Yeah. I don't know what Miller's is. I ain't gonna lie with you. I mean, I'm not the biggest wing eater, so it's not like that's someplace. I can't remember the last time I actually went to a bar or a restaurant and watched a game.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Probably, let me take that back. Probably, it might have been oh my gosh How's it in Chicago? Oh. Hold on. I think the last time I actually went somewhere and I watched a sporting event at a
Starting point is 00:44:24 bar. I'm going to date myself it was probably 2001 me and Ray went to the ESPN zone in Atlanta Ray Lewis? That's my guy. I love Ray man
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's the only. I love Ray, man. That's Ray Lewis. That's the only thing that's... It's just hard because, like, I don't watch with the sound. Right. And I'm trying to focus. Even before I got into this and analyzing and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:44:59 I've always been like that. Say what's up. Say hi to Aunt. Hey, what's up? Say hi to Aida. Hi. How you doing? Where's Rell? Rell asleep? She in the room.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, she in the room. She in the bed. Tell Rell I said come here. Yeah. Oh, well, see, you would sound. I'm at Twin Peaks. It's soccer season. What happened?
Starting point is 00:45:25 I know the best wings. I don't know about them wings, but I'm talking about them chicken tenders. Oh, I don't eat chicken tenders. Magic City. Magic City got them five wings, too. And catfish tenders.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Wait, catfish tenders? Yeah. You mean catfish itself. How do you make catfish a damn tender? Easy. The same way you make catfish a damn tender? Easy. The same way you make a turkey sausage. And chicken sausage the same way.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Man. I don't know. Bebe, where you at? Come here. Who got the best wings? Yeah, Who got the best wings? Yeah, who got the best wings? I mean, to you For the places you've been throughout your life Who sells the best wings to you?
Starting point is 00:46:18 She gonna say Anywhere in Atlanta She know my day We put it down Oh, Fox Brothers got some good wings too In Atlanta Fox who? Fox Brothers got some good wings too. In Atlanta. Fox who?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Fox Brothers. It's a barbecue joint in Atlanta, but that's a place they book. But hey, Magic City wings, for sure. Man, we've been talking about Magic City since we started the show. But when you try to do something, oh, let me tell you a spot that got some good food. Cam Spot, Fellowship.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Oh, man, what do you think I smoke at, man? I smoke at, I've been at Fellowship two, maybe two, three times. I ain't care nothing about no smoke. I'm going to eat. Yeah, Fellowship nights, man. Fellowship nights. You know when they got the live music in there, too? Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:47:02 I think Cam and I, we're going to do something together. We're going to do something with LaPorte. We're going to have an event with someone with LaPorte at his spot. Where? In Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. Oh shit, I'm coming, but let me know. Let me know. Let me know now. I'm going to come. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:15 but Magic City got. Okay, now we've been talking about Magic City for a long time. I'm trying to do something for Tucson. Hey, let me know what you're trying to do, now.
Starting point is 00:47:30 We can make it work now. Hey, I'll put the call in to Magic. Yeah, put the call in. Put the call in. Let me know. Let me know. You know, Spirit gets you that lineup for $18. Ain't going to get me nowhere.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Baby. I have his son, Juju, to hook it up. Yeah. Tell Juju how that man hit my line now. Wings. What else they got for me in Magic City? Whatever you like. You sound like the lady from Coming to America. No, they're not a fool. Good. The food. Oh, you're talking about the food? Yeah, the food. Oh, they got them. They there. They there. Ooh, they there. I Hey,
Starting point is 00:48:24 by the way you the way you stopped and looked up man you know I'm trying to be I'm trying to be on my best behavior oh man
Starting point is 00:48:35 oh that was funny okay that was funny Balenciaga bracelet looks exactly like a roll of tape Ocho you copying this come on man I have a question that ain't that ain't nothing but shipping tape exactly like a roll of tape. Ocho, you copping this? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I have a question. That ain't nothing but shipping tape. That's what it is. Listen, that ain't nothing but shipping tape that costs $8. That ain't nothing but $8 shipping tape. Now, listen, high fashion has been doing this for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They got potato chips. They got potato chip bags that they sell. They have shoes that now are, they look worn, they look dirty. All they're doing is recycling some of the things
Starting point is 00:49:12 that we've been doing all our life and had to wear and struggle with, and now it's considered high fashion. Yeah. But see, it's just, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:49:22 oh man. What you was talking about, you threw me off because then you went away from wings But see, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's You was talking about pies. Right. Yeah, man. There you go. There you go. I like the way you came that up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was nice. Yeah. Ocho, how much you think that a packet tape costs? Let me see.
Starting point is 00:49:53 If it's Balenciaga tape, I'd probably run $800. $4,400. $4,400 what? For a roll of tape that I can get for $8 from Staples? Guess what?
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm going to go right down to the FedEx, buy me some of that packing tape and put it on my wrist. Yeah, I mean, listen, stuff like that when it comes to Balenciaga
Starting point is 00:50:18 and some of those Dior and some of those I'm talking about super high-end fashion, I always was curious about the people that actually purchased these type of pieces. Hey, Magic, can we do a nightcap from Magic City? Hey, can we do that?
Starting point is 00:50:36 But how are people going to hear us because of the noise? That's all right. We get a little private room. Hey, you know what I'm saying? We do a little tippity. All we're doing right now is tippity, sipping five for the bottom and five for the top is all to get those draws to fall.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Come on down here and see your boy, your favorite, uh, Shay Sharp. That was your Seiko. Y'all know the time. One time. Hey, can we do the show and have people? Huh? Can we do the show and have people
Starting point is 00:51:00 dancing in the background? Or you can't do that? Or is that illegal? I mean, it's Magic's place. Magic can have whatever he want to. But I'm just thinking what it can do for the show
Starting point is 00:51:11 because it would be a different type of show. Something that no one has ever done before. Yeah, but we started not after dark. So the whole show is after dark.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Oh, man, listen. We had a conversation with Caramel, Mercedes. Oh, yeah, you know. Hey, we'll make a kiss that could be a different type of show you know Nightcap After Dark Magic City version ooh I like that
Starting point is 00:51:37 come on down here and see y'all hey watch him scrub the ground hit that beat one time oh y'all know what it is but all the way live from ATL Georgia it's your favorite y'all know what it is, but all the way live from ATL, Georgia. It's your favorite. Y'all know who it is coming at you. We all the way live down here in Magic City. The wings, the thighs are on point.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Oh, one more time, y'all. $10 for the top, $10 for the bottom. It's all it takes to get those draws to fall. Come on down here and get down with your boy. Boy, you got a little experience on that mic, huh? What time for you, boy? I was watching Freak Nick last night, and it took me back. It took me back.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They left a lot of parts. Where you on now? Nope, they didn't see your boy. They didn't see your boy. But y'all need to come on down there. I'm ready for that. Come on down here. Come on down here.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Come on down here and join us. It's your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. Ocho Cinco. Y'all know who he is. Liberty City's on. We got the best women in town at Magic City. I like it. Y'all ready for us?
Starting point is 00:52:37 I like it. Yeah, we got to make that happen. I know somebody in Atlanta. Somebody tell Magic and Juju to hit us so we can make it happen. Tell them. Hell, I can pick up the phone and call them. Oh, my bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Well, they're getting some good promo now. We need that. Oh, yeah. It's time for our last segment. I can't believe this, man. What happened? Them kids wide awake. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You don't hear that? Oh, hell. I'm going to be up all night. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as
Starting point is 00:53:43 core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal
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Starting point is 00:55:18 listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, it's time for our last segment of the night. It is called Q&A.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Q&A, Q&A. Don't be scared. Ask what you want to. First question of the night comes from LaShunda Gladney. Shannon, I'm a diehard Cowboys fan, and yes, we're tired of Jerry with this chatter, and yes, he's an attention, you know. We're tired of the Joneses just like we're tired of
Starting point is 00:55:57 how you treat Ocho with his Funko. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And you still ain't sending my stuff man what you need what you need Ocho I mean
Starting point is 00:56:09 I need my Funko and my plaque oh Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy she sent you a book and it's like information it's got a lot of quotes
Starting point is 00:56:18 but uh I need I need that this was for Ocho and Rail but it came to my place. You know, anything that comes to your house in the mail is yours to keep. No, that's not how that works. They're sending stuff to you because your address is public knowledge and mine isn't.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Well, guess what? Your gifts are at my house and yours is not. Mine's not. Where you at? You in L.A.? I'm going to just come get it. You's not. Where you at? You in LA? I'm going to just come get it. You in LA? Nah.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm going to be in LA April 8th. Yeah, I need that. Because I know it got my name on there. Nope. Baby! Baby! Oh yeah Ralph No
Starting point is 00:57:14 You can't steal something when they send it to you In the mail Oh are they trying to say you stole it Honestly technically It is stealing if they send it to you And you stole it? Yeah, they're talking about that stealing. Honestly, technically, it is stealing if they send it to you and you know it doesn't belong to you and you don't want to give it to
Starting point is 00:57:28 the person it's supposed to be for. That is considered stealing, Long. I know my rights. That's Amendment 4. Stealing. The action or offense of taking another person's property without permission or legal right
Starting point is 00:57:42 without intending to return it. Fail. Ah. So you're not intending to return it. Fail. Ah, so you're not intending to return it. See? They sent it to my address. By accident. Okay, well,
Starting point is 00:57:52 I'm accidentally keeping it. I ain't keeping it on purpose. So, I don't know what you want me to tell you. It's cool. I'd be in L.A. on the 8th to pick up my stuff. We out of town, Nathan and Jordan.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah, we out of town. Ocho, I'm sorry. We out of town. God dang it. There she go. Ram! How you doing, Ram? Ram, where you been all day?
Starting point is 00:58:21 In the streets with her girls. They was at brunch and like having mimomos. Mimosas. Who? Mimosas. Whatever. I don't drink that shit,
Starting point is 00:58:33 but whatever, you know. And she coming here all tipsy and drunk and like kissing on me. I'm like, uh-uh, you smell like mimomos. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:58:41 chill, little mama. And that's it. She ain't bring you no Fristo? She ain't bring you nothing back? Nah, I had my, chill little mama. And that's it. She ain't bring you no fridge toast. She ain't bring you nothing back. Nah, I eat my first watch in the morning.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I don't deal with brunch spots that they like to go to. It's too high end. It's too bougie. Yeah, I don't like that kind of stuff. And then you pay
Starting point is 00:58:59 like $80 for a plate and the plate be this about damn big. That ain't me. I stick to what I know and what I've always eaten. Real, we taking our show on the road. We going to Magic City in a couple of weeks. When we going?
Starting point is 00:59:12 You know what I'm saying? Me and him. No, me and him. She trying to insert herself in the Magic City. Real got to go. Because you know. Yes, I got to go visit family. magic. Rel got to go. Because you know. Yes, I got to go visit family. Yeah, she got to go visit family.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And you know, I can use Rel as bait. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Oh, you're that. I got it. It's my aunt. He from out of town. No, show him a little love. Hey, Ocho, already got a position.
Starting point is 00:59:48 You see how your boy got a position? You don't need no help, man. You don't need no help. Hey, they finna be up all night. Well, you gonna be up with them. Who? Shit me? Uh, Road King 11 said, we're not fans to Jerry Jones.
Starting point is 01:00:07 We're just customers. I'm tired of it. I'm not giving Jerry and Steven any more of my time or money until real changes are made. Boycott the Cowboys. Good job, Roy King. I don't know if that's going to work, though, bro. They love them Cowboys. Lainey Ray chimed in.
Starting point is 01:00:23 She finally got a question in. I guess you've been in the bed or you've been sick or something because that's the first time Lainey Ray has asked a question in months. Shannon Ocho, would you rather go to jail for a year or go to jail with a Rubik's Cube
Starting point is 01:00:37 and you can leave when you solve it? Yes. Realize the question dates me. I'm going with the Rub question dates me. I'm going with the Rubik's Cube. I'm going with the Rubik's Cube. It's not easy. It's not easy, but there is
Starting point is 01:00:53 a YouTube showing you how you can finish it faster than normal. You do realize you're not supposed to have phones in YouTube in prison, right? In jail. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm hypothetically speaking, if I know... So you're going to study before you go? Yes. And you know how I am when I study for something. I'm always passive,
Starting point is 01:01:15 like with flying colors. Guess what? Yeah. You're going to be there longer than a year. Shit me. No, sir. That Rubik's Cube,
Starting point is 01:01:25 I'm getting up out of there, boy. I'm going to get them colors right. I'm going to get it right. Man. I'm taking the Rubik's Cube and I'm leaving. I'm leaving on a date. Actually, I'm leaving
Starting point is 01:01:36 in like 30 minutes. Come on now. When the last time you done a Rubik's Cube? Oh, my gosh. Exactly. So you're going to be in there by two, three months.
Starting point is 01:01:46 You watch your damn... Unc, unc, your spidey senses ain't what they used to be. Like you tell me. I thought you said I was going to do the YouTube tutorial.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Oh, you're going to watch it too? Yeah. Okay. Well, as long as you know. You ever seen them people that can do a Rubik's Cube like in a few seconds? Yes. Oh my God. No, no, no, no, long as you know You ever seen them people that can do a Rubik's Cube Like in a few seconds? Yes
Starting point is 01:02:07 Oh my God No, no, no, no, no It ain't no drive-by You go in there and walk out It be in and out? Nah That ain't happening That ain't gonna happen
Starting point is 01:02:17 They compete They have competitions for Rubik's Cube To see who can do it the fastest Well, don't worry about it You and I are not doing it. You and I together couldn't beat them kids. Nah, hell nah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Kemper Norwood Jr. said, you're great to listen to. I would listen to you all day because you're a fantastic person to listen to. I can't wait to see who starts my club, Shea Shea. I'm ready for the next episode.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Kemper, I really appreciate that, man. That's awesome. I appreciate your support. Thank you. And there are lots of other people like you, but I appreciate you chiming in to tell me that. Faith said, Hey, Shannon and Ocho, the Powerball is 800 million. The Mega Million is 1.1 billion. Have either of you bought tickets yet?
Starting point is 01:03:00 Do you keep the tickets in the Bible for extra blessing? Or what would you do if you won good luck and godspeed no well if i haven't played i haven't played yet um now that you mentioned it the chances of me winning are slim i probably won't win but i might play because it's at such a such a high dollar amount and the one thing that I always do for me, for those of you in the chat that know me, when I go to restaurants,
Starting point is 01:03:28 I always tip $1,000 no matter what. So if I was to win the Powerball or the Mega Millions or whatever it may be, then I would be adding a zero to all tips when I go out from that point on. That's pretty much it. That's all I'm doing. Man, if I won a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Savannah State moving to the top of the food chain in black colleges. That's for damn sure. What else I want to do? Something in the community. Something in my community that's going to benefit. So I'll probably end up giving, I'll probably end up, if I want 1.1
Starting point is 01:04:04 billion, by the time Uncle Sam get his cut, I'm probably going to benefit. So I'll probably end up giving, I'll probably end up, if I want 1.1 billion, by the time Uncle Sam get his cut, I'm probably going to walk away with like 400 million, 450 million. Mm-hmm. 100 million. Fam, you're going to look like University of, Fam, you'll probably
Starting point is 01:04:20 look like, I'm trying to think. Savannah State getting 100 million. 100? Yeah. Man, what the hell am I going to do probably look like... I'm trying to think. Savannah State getting $100 million? $100? Yeah. Man, what the hell am I going to do without it? Man, please. I want it to be
Starting point is 01:04:33 for some good. I mean, all that money just to have it and give it to my family? No. My family will be taken care of. And then I'm going to do something. Financial literacy,
Starting point is 01:04:45 STEM cell, something. Some program that's going to aid the black community. So I'll probably end up keeping out of 450, I'll keep 200. Right. So I know I'm thinking, that's a good one. Obviously, you know, I'm tipping. I'm adding an extra zero on all my
Starting point is 01:05:01 tips. Those I have kids from, y'all good. Get everybody a new house, new car. Probably slide everybody by five million apiece. Oh, that's crazy. I'm trying to think what else. Fam you, change the whole school, the football team uniforms add-on I'm gonna drop about 500,000 to magic you up
Starting point is 01:05:33 hey you better than me but I ain't throwing I ain't throwing no money and I can't do that you I'll watch you throw it but I ain't throwing I can't I can't throw it throwing. I can't do that. I'll watch you throw it, but I can't throw it. Throw it. I hand it to him. I can't throw it because I don't like to see women having to reach down and pick up money. That's what I'm looking for. I was going to pick it up
Starting point is 01:05:57 and put that in right there. Yeah, I don't like that. That's obeying right there. Yeah, I don't see it. I'd rather just hand him the block, the block of the money. Here you go. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You don't really have to do nothing for this. Huh? You trying to steal my thunder. Nah, I'm just, I mean, that's just me. I don't want to see him. I don't know. Just seeing him bent over to pick up money and put it in the bag.
Starting point is 01:06:20 What you think I'm in there for? Yeah, I know. I know. My bad. I'm not one. I don't frequent the strip club, so it's not
Starting point is 01:06:31 a really part of my repertoire and what I like to see, even though I'm from Miami. I want to live. I want to know what it's like to make it rain.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I mean, I'm talking about that Noah's Ark. You never know what it's like. I'm talking about that Noah's Ark rain. I ain't talking
Starting point is 01:06:44 about that regular rain. I ain't talking about no little pop-up store like they have in Florida. I ain't talking about that regular rain. I ain't talking about no little pop-up store like they have in Florida. I ain't talking about no little pop-up shop. I'm talking about that Noah's Ark rain. Oh, so you trying to act like BMF when they was in Magic City back in the day when I seen the pictures and the videos of them. Yeah, that me. Where the money was up to your knees in the club.
Starting point is 01:07:02 That's what you're trying to. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. That's a different ball game. I heard the stories your knees in the club. That's what you're trying to... Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. That's a different ballgame. I heard the stories. I heard the stories. Janet Ortiz, I unk and ocho love you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Can you wish my baby Jalen happy anniversary? It's our seventh one. Jalen, happy anniversary. Happy seventh anniversary. Janet wanted to shout you out, say how proud she is of you and how lucky she is to have you in her life.
Starting point is 01:07:31 So happy seventh anniversary to you guys. Jalen, Jalen and Janet. Many more to come. Happy seventh. Happy seventh, Jay. D-Jack said, Uncle Nocho, what's your, where are your go-to pick lines with, uh, you want to pursue a woman, man? I ain't got no, man. Look here.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I ain't got no line. I don't. You like me. I like you. Come on. That's a good question. A line. I ain't used no line in a long time.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I ain't used a line in a long time, but it's been, it's been a long time, man. I mean, if you think about it, Ocho, I mean, anything that you say can be considered a line. Yeah, you right. Because I promise you, you told somebody else, you said that exact, whatever you said to a woman, you've told somebody else.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Oh, you said it before? Yeah. Yeah, anytime you fill out a resume, don't you all, you fill them out all the same, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Shit. A line, shit. same, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Shit. A lot of shit. Sometimes you ain't got to use a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Your face is enough. Yeah, exactly. Louisiana Barney Ray's asked, is Sterling invited to Magic City? Hell no. Stay his old ass. Stay his old ass home. He ain't coming with me.
Starting point is 01:08:41 He invited. Just not on the night I'm there. Spoiling all my fun. Dwan High said, Ocho, what are your top three Unk-isms? Unk, what are your top three Ocho-isms? Also, do you think the NFL will ever bring back NFL Europe? To answer your last question first,
Starting point is 01:09:01 if they think they can turn a profit. Absolutely. Absolutely. to answer your last question first if they think they can turn a profit absolutely hey some of them the monkisms the monkisms is in my notepad they they are in my notepad written down and my favorite one you remember the one you told me i'm this this is my favorite if you if you can remember it what's that the love, you remember the one you told me? This is my favorite, if you can remember it. What's that? The love, were you doing the most?
Starting point is 01:09:28 Oh, yeah. The love one. Yeah. You remember? Boy, listen, I can't wait till we argue. Because I'm going to pull that out.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I'm loving the most, but I'm getting the least. I don't know how to say it the right way, but I got it written down. Yeah. I love the most, but I receive the least. Ooh! Well, hey, as a matter of fact, when I say it, when we're arguing,
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm going to make sure a tear drops. I need a tear. I need a tear falling. So when I deliver it, like, I really need to hit home, and before she can answer back, I'm going to walk out and say I need some time to myself. And just, like, boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Sometimes you got to set up the argument like that. You got to set it up. Yeah. Kamari Denard said, how did the NFL announce Offensive Player of the Year and other awards in the 90s? Like, was there big award shows? No. And did you personally and did they personally call you? No, there were no award shows.
Starting point is 01:10:35 I think they just sent you the award. I don't remember. I think, like, maybe, like, they started having, like, award shows, like, in 2000. And I was, as a matter of fact i wasn't even able to go because i had a a prior engagement at the super bowl uh and my brother when i was a tight end of the year and my brother went and picked up my award for me so but no there was no i mean that there were none of that in the 90s now
Starting point is 01:11:00 not to my knowledge now i didn't win no awards, but I don't remember. I think they just sent you the award. Greg Martinez. Can you give a birthday shout out to my daughter Lily? She's a diehard Broncos fan and her 11th birthday is on Wednesday. Happy early birthday, Lily. Your father, Greg,
Starting point is 01:11:23 wanted us to give you a happy birthday shout-out, even though your birthday is on Wednesday, so we're giving you an early birthday shout-out. Happy 11th birthday, and many, many more to come. Happy birthday. Blow the straw. What's up, Unc?
Starting point is 01:11:39 Thanks for winning my dad some fantasy bread. Ocho, what do you remember about Stokely's 86-yard game when he played my first NFL game I watched? Ain't that where the ball tipped up when we was playing Denver? Yeah, I remember that. That's been so goddamn long.
Starting point is 01:11:54 That was the first game of the season, wasn't it? Was it? That was week one, if I'm not mistaken. It might have been. Yeah, I think that was week one, man. Honestly, bro,
Starting point is 01:12:03 I can't remember. I can't remember, man. Once football season, I can't remember. I can't remember, man. Once football season ended, or once it was over, when I was retired, man, just thought and the memories of it, it's all faded, man, so far. Just honestly.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I remember that play, though. Angelita Marie. We won the game off that bullshit, man. Angelita Marie, it's my off that bullshit man Angelina Marie it's my birthday weekend I'm fine and free
Starting point is 01:12:27 at 43 happy to wrap up the weekend with Uncle Ocho my roots are South Florida and South Georgia so you two
Starting point is 01:12:35 are honey spice barbecue much love from the A thank you Angelina we really appreciate that she had it all
Starting point is 01:12:43 that thing she said she's fine and she's free. Yeah, that was for you. I'm surprised you ain't catch on. Fine and free. Add one more F to that. What do you think it is?
Starting point is 01:12:55 You know what it is? All right. All right. All right. All right. You're a trip. Don Patterson Energy say, hey, Uncle Nocho, I'm curious. How often do NFL players practice during the season? Thanks in advance.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I don't know. I don't honestly I couldn't tell you now. We practice. That CBA got it tight, boy. We practiced Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Friday was a half a day, and then you had walkthrough Saturday morning. But I couldn't tell you how they practice now.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I really couldn't. It's a little different now. Jay asks, what do NFL players do during time of the year? Rest, spend time with family, do training sessions? Yes, certain players lose weight, gain weight. Please get primed back on night camp for 2.0. Thanks. I mean, they're probably starting back training now.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I mean, here it is. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they've been training. What month are we in? What month are we in? March? About to hit April, yeah. Yeah, working their way back into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Gradually. Gradually, yes. Because when is the draft? In April or May? April 8th, right? April 13th? April 8th. Wait.
Starting point is 01:14:20 April 25th? I don't even know. Oh, it's the end of the month. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. April 25th? I don't even know. Oh, it's the end of the month. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah. April 25th. So new coaches, you could have three camps.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So pretty soon, I mean, you might have – nah, they're not going to have any camps until they get the rookies. Mm-hmm. But, yeah, they're getting back in shape. They'll start running. They're going to start. They're going to hit the gym. Most of them probably done gone on at least one vacation.
Starting point is 01:14:52 If that's what they do, that's who they are. But most of the guys have started back doing some light running, starting to gradually build back up to it. Spangler says, tomorrow would have been my late husband, Mason, and our seventh wedding anniversary. He was a Titans, Grizzlies, Vanderbilt fan. I like to think we'd enjoy
Starting point is 01:15:12 watching nightcap together. It's an honor of him. Can you shout him out? Ah, Spangler, we would love to shout Mason out. And I'm so sorry for your loss. I think he would have liked, he would enjoy watching
Starting point is 01:15:26 Nightcap along with his Titan Grizzlies and Vanderbilt Commodores with you and you guys would have loved watching Uncannot Show so thank you brother Mason tell my mama I said what's up man so so thank you
Starting point is 01:15:41 thank you very much for watching us and we really appreciate the support Ryan man. So, so thank you. Thank you very much for watching us. And, uh, we really appreciate the support. Ryan Sibbles. Oh, got my Laporte and water really does make a difference. Question. Which past athlete do you wish you've seen in person?
Starting point is 01:15:56 P.S. Don't hold, uh, the pop hostage. Yeah. He can't get this. I told him for a nominal fee. I'll let it go.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Oh, can I get what you want? Uh, say the word. Yes. You actually can get me one. I told you for a nominal fee, I'll let it go. Can I get what you want? Say the word. Yes, you actually can get me one. Now, have me right.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Now, have me right. You'll need to get the part to make it official. You've got to have the part. Which past athlete I wish I could have saw? Which past athlete to watch? sport if it's i would probably say baseball it would be Hank Aaron Babe Ruth Football
Starting point is 01:16:46 Jim Brown Tennis Arthur Ashe Basketball Will Chamberlain Track and field hmm Jesse Owens
Starting point is 01:17:11 oh yeah Jesse Owens or Jim Thorpe who you got past athlete I would love to see I would like to see Babe Ruth I want to see what all the hype is about I would want to see what all the hype is about. I would love to see what all the hype was about with Babe Ruth. I wish I would have loved to see, if it was boxing, I would love to see Muhammad Ali.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Obviously golf, I would love to see Arnold Palmer. Even though I don't watch golf like that, I would love to see what obviously the hype was about and how good he was back then. Football, I would love to see what obviously the hype was about and how good he was back then. Football. I would love to see Walter Payton. I would love to see Walter Payton live. Hockey. I think obviously Wayne Gretzky is not that far removed.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Not that far removed from playing, but obviously I wasn't paying attention when he was playing to understand his greatness that is still to this day holds a lot of weight yeah uh tennis yeah I've been watching tennis for a while 88 so yeah I was in college damn did you see Flojo I'm like yeah I was in college. Damn. Did you see Flojo? I'm like, yeah, I was in college. We ran in the Seoul Olympics. Actually, I remember
Starting point is 01:18:30 in 84 when she ran in what you call them? Boxing. You know who boxing, Ocho? Sugar Ray Robinson. Oh, Sugar Ray? Sugar Ray was nice, boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:45 You couldn't go wrong with uh the Brown Bomber Joe Lewis Jack Johnson well that's throwback boy yeah you went way back
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