Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: DeMarcus Lawrence & Micah Parsons beef, Jets release Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best NFL moments of the week including the DeMarcus Lawrence and Micah Parsons' online beef, the New York Jets releasing Aaron Rodgers, and more!04:21 - Demarcus Lawrence signs with Seahawks14:10 - Josh Allen on why he didn’t break Dak’s record30:05 - Puka Nacua avoiding marriage until he wins a Super Bowl37:00 - Ocho’s list for best wide receiver duos43:20 - Mac Jones signing with the 49ers49:00 - Daniel Jones signs with the Colts51:20 - Aaron Rodgers was released by the Jets(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Demarcus Tank Lawrence signed with the Seattle Seahawks this week. Tank took some shots at the Cowboys when he got there. Let's take a listen to the video courtesy of Hawk Blogger on YouTube. Take a listen to this, Ocho. No, Dallas is my home. I made my home there.

You know, my family lives there. You know, I'm forever going to be there. But, you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there. So, yeah. We here. We here. Demarcus Lawrence, welcome to the Seahawks. Thanks for joining us.

Wow. Hold on, Ocho. Michael Parsons in. This is what rejection and envy look like. There's some clown-ish. D-Law responded, calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left. Demon.

I like it. I like it. Wow. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Listen. Wow. They don't really feel like that about each other, but you know when somebody leaves and they go somewhere else and they understand and they see how their culture is. Listen, the Seahawks won

the Super Bowl. How long ago? How long ago that was? That wasn't that long ago now. 2012. Nah, 20. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 2013. The Ravens won in 2012. They won in 2013. They won more recently than the Cowboys

have, I can tell you that. Mr. Lawrence, who's been in Dallas for a very long time and understanding why they haven't won one, as opposed to how the fans see why they haven't won one, as opposed to how the fans see why they haven't won one, and understanding that Jerry's bottom line isn't really about winning, but making money, he actually has the ground to stand on being able to say that now that he's going somewhere else.

Because he can see how things are run. He can see how things are run. Well, hell, they haven't won a Super Bowl or trying to win one or building the type of team to win one in a very long time. They haven't won a Super Bowl or trying to win one or building the type of team to win one in a very long time. They haven't. So he's just telling the truth. And understand, Micah, Micah has to do. You got to come.

You got to defend your team. You got to defend your squad. Yeah. For me, Ocho, you have to be careful when you go to another team because, you know, the emotion of it. And you're like, oh, yeah, I'm so happy to be here. This team is so much better than the team that I left. So you have to be careful of that because it's easy to get caught up into that. Because I remember having my press conference, and I was like,

I wanted to say certain things, but I had to be like, okay, Sean, come on now. Be the bigger person. You're happy that you enjoyed your 10 years in Denver. It was an opportunity. Hey, somebody going to give you another opportunity to be what bigger person. You're happy that you enjoyed your 10 years in Denver. It was an opportunity. Hey, somebody going to give you another opportunity to be what you were. And you appreciate that.

I'm a little surprised that I'm surprised D-Law said what he said. I'm surprised Michael said what he said. And I'm really, really surprised D-Law responded. Man, not really.

How could you not? How could you not? How could you not? You got two people that love each other. You know, hurt people hurt people hurt people. Huh? That ain't real? Yes, true. We're talking about two dudes that play the same position,

that been on the team, you know, three, four years, how many years they been together? They don't really feel like that. He didn't get... I thought you would have said that, because we play together, we don't mean we, we, we, we. Even so, but they get along. I'm telling you.

I knew them boys. You know, ain't no hard feelings. Let me ask you a question. You ever called TJ a clown? You ever called TJ a clown? Nah. You ever called Carson a clown? No, or T.O.

You ever called Corin Dillon a clown? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, damn. I'm trying to figure out. You ever called Corey Dillon a clown? No, no, no, no. No. Oh, damn. I'm trying to figure out. You ever called Big Willie? Willie, my homeboy from the eight. You ever called Willie a clown?

Nah, you know, you... What the hell? You mean to tell me you ain't called nobody no clown that you still cool with? You got to understand,

I'm an offensive player and I get along with everybody. I'm just trying to figure out, so who have you called a clown that you love and you cool with nobody I think I love everybody

that's my problem that's my I think that's my problem but again I mean this football you know that's that's love talking

that's her talking man I used to go to war with you what you talking about we used to, I used to go to war with you. What were you talking about? We used to watch, we used to study film together. What you talking about? We was in the weight room together.

What is you talking about? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Name the three people that'll tell you the truth. Drunk, kids, angry people. They'll tell you,

listen, that's, hey, can I say something real quick? Yeah. Anytime someone is angry at you, whatever they tell you when they're angry, you have to hang on to that. Because that's how they really. Well, you just said he didn't mean that. You said when Michael Barnes had rejected him, he looked like this some clown stuff. You told me not to mention that. Hold on, hold on.

Stay with me now. Okay. I really wasn't talking. I really wasn't talking male to male now. I'm just throwing it out there for the fellas. You got to stay with me, okay? Oh, so when a woman tells you that, I'm hanging on to everybody. You got to hang on to that.

Because, listen, when they're drunk, they'll tell you how they really feel. When they're angry, they'll give you everything you wish for. Oh, that's how you... Okay. Because a drunk mouth is sober thoughts. Okay, bet. I'm going to put that in my back pocket and I'm going to hold on to it. You can't never forget nothing.

But, listen, you know them boys. Them boys, that ain't serious like that nah that ain't serious I do have I have to defend my team well since you taking a shot at me

you calling me a clown but I tell you what well if your ass get off goddamn stop tweeting and doing whatever you're doing maybe we win more and I wouldn't have left

and you were going to leave regardless because they were going to pay you he wasn't saying no way but you see what I'm saying it's just He wasn't staying no way. But you see what I'm saying? It ain't just

bickering back and forth, you know, two friends. I bet you see him in a video or a picture sometime later on in the season.

Watch. That what you thinking? I mean, I didn't, I mean, look, D-Law been there for a minute, second

round draft pick, played a number of years there there for a minute, second-round draft pick, played a number of years there, had a hell of a career in Dallas. I would have never thought he would leave. Because one thing Jerry does, Jerry takes care of his players, guys that he drafts. He believes in playing, hating his homegrown talent. And D-Law has been there for at least a decade, maybe longer. Maybe longer.

But he felt it was time for him to move on. He wanted to be in a situation that he felt gave him a better opportunity, excuse me, to win. I'm sure the money, what, three years, 15 million? Or yeah, I'm saying per year, three years, 45 million, if I'm not mistaken on you. Don't quote me on that. I think I read something.

I didn't know anything about this until, like, we just get ready to come on the show and ask Ash, text me asking me, did I see this? I didn't because I was exhausted. I came in and went to bed. I ain't going to lie. I came in and went to bed, man. Like, ooh.

He played 11 seasons in Dallas. He's about to play his 12th season. Wow. I like it. Matter of fact, where the schedule at? Do the Cowboys play the Seahawks this year? That's what I want

to know. That's what I'm talking about. Give me, give me, make it a little bit more entertaining. Have a few... I would feel more entertaining if one was on offense and one was on defense. Okay, I understand.

You know what I'm saying? Don't you both of them on the defense side so they're never going to come in contact. It's kind of like me and you talking trash to each other. You on offense, I'm on offense. Even if we play the same side of the ball and we going at it, that means now we got to show up. Now who's going to be more productive? Who's going to have the better game?

Who's going to get the most sacks? Whatever it may be. Who's going to impact the game more even if we do play the same position? It don't matter. Because when I was on the Ravens, if I was talking trash to another offensive player, I already know my staffs are going to be better than yours because you were going to do

jack-ish. Not against that defense. Oh, no. So it didn't matter. It didn't matter. It didn't matter what I did. I might have one catch that was going to be more and more than you got. That's what I do. That's what I do. And if you did get a catch, you're going to wish you hadn't have caught it because they were going to be more and more than you got. That's what I do. That's what I do. And if you did get a catch,

you're going to wish you hadn't have caught it because they were going to put hats on your ass. So for me, yes, I love arguing with D. Lyman. That's who I got into the most arguing with. Rest his soul, Taz Kennedy. Rest his soul, Chester McLaughlin.

I stayed into it with him. I stayed. Every time we played, there was not one game that I didn't when Chet was with the Raiders or Kansas City that I didn't get into it with him. Taz was the same way.

Sam Adams too. Sam Adams too. Yeah, he can't wonder about best friend. But boy, hey, nah, man. And the line would get so upset. They're like, man, you ain't got to block him. I was like, well, hey, that ain't got nothing to do with me. He talking crazy to me. What you think I'm going to do? Let him talk crazy to me

and because y'all got to block him, don't take crazy back. Man, I wish I might. Put your big boy pants on. Buckle up. Forget you, Reroy. But hey, that was some great times. Josh Allen was asked

why he didn't look to break Dak Prescott's 60 million per year record contract extension. I know it's weird to say Dak Prescott's 60 million per year record contract extension. I know it's weird to say, but what's 5 million more going to do for my life right now that I can't already do? I've lived a really good life. I got a house, got a car. We're good. Do you like Josh saying this?

I love it. Ocho, we're not talking about it. Ocho, what the hell can I do with 330330 million that I can do with $400 million? So he said, I'm making $55. What can I do with $55 million that I can only do with $60 million? What? Once you get to a certain number, it's like Elon Musk is the world's richest man. Let's just say he's worth a billion Ocho, what can

I do with a hundred billion what can I do with 50 billion, what can I do with 10 billion that I absolutely need to do to have that so he's like bro, 55, 60 do you see how I got a quarter of a

billy guaranteed? A quarter of a billy. Damn, man. Look, if you're going to guarantee me a quarter of a billy, I'll make 40 million. If you're going to guarantee a quarter of a billy, Ocho. So me personally, not to cut you off, Ocho, I love that he said that. Tell me what you think. I mean, I like it.

It makes sense. It makes some sweet sense. Who would argue the fact? I'm just curious. Who would argue the fact? Outside of someone with... Nobody. You know what happens when you get greedy, right?

Mm-hmm. It only makes sense. Pigs eat well. Hogs get slaughtered. Hey, man. Stay right there. Man, you better stop. Boy, you better stop playing.

Bring that. Listen, hold on. Hold on. Bring it to me slow now. Yeah. Pigs eat good. Hogs get slaughtered. I don't know what scenario I'm going to be able to use this in conversation or argument,

but I'm feeling it. Greed. Greed. Money. That's what it's talking about, greed. But like Josh said, Josh, like, at the end of the day, and the thing is, like, what Mahomes did is, like, okay, he got that big number, and we knew Mahomes, if Josh is worth a quarter with Billy,

how much is a guy that's been to five Super Bowls, won three two-league MVPs, three Super Bowl MVPs? What's that worth? But he's like, you know what? At the end of the day, I need to be able to surround my, uh, surround myself, because I can't win this thing by myself. No matter how great I am, I need people

around me. I mean, look, football players have to have that because there's a cap baseball players are always for the most part going to get the most money

because they keep trying to they keep trying to push the salaries through the ceiling and so you see ain't no

ain't no uh uh uh what's his name Soto Juan Soto taking a 500 taking 500 million when there's somebody out there that got 700 million for it What's his name? Soto. Juan Soto. Taking the $500 million. Taking $500 million when there's somebody out there that got $700 million for it.

You know, guys, they're not doing that. Because they're like, look, it's not my responsibility. Because there is no cap, Ocho. So it's like, hey, whatever the market will bear, whatever the team is willing to pay, that's where we're going. So if we got two, three, four guys on the team that's making $200 million, $250 million, so be it. So absolutely be it. But I love what Josh said. And look, I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do.

Josh said, I'm good at 55. I don't need 60 because anything that I want at 50, if I need 60 to do it, I'm going to be F'd up anyway. He kept it in the round also from a point of being paid where I'm still being paid

with the best, but also we can continue to build around me so I can be able to contend to compete. Not only get to the AFC Championship, but also be able to compete and contend for a Super Bowl as well. So I'm going to take 55.

I'm not going to take 60 because I don't want to take 60. It's going to take some of the potential off the table for me based on what I can put around me to help improve my team. I need a good players for five years. You ain't going to lowball me too much now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to.

Oh, Joe, you can lowball me. Give me a quarter billion guarantee. Lowball me all you want to. You can give me five million a year. Hey, long as I know I got a quarter billion. All that guarantee is right, huh? Oh, for y'all. Absolutely.

Look, I don't tell anybody what he or she should do. That's you. You make the best decision for you. I don't have a problem with Josh and his mentality. Now, somebody like Chase, if Chase says, nah, bro, y'all made me wait. I need all of that. If I'm not mistaken, Josh had four years left on his deal.

Listen, you got to understand, they view the quarterback position a lot different than other positions. A lot different. And you have to understand, the Bengals as well. What the Bengals won't do, you're not going to bully them.

They've shown that countless times when Clark was upset. When Carson wanted out or he didn't see fit and said, I'm not coming back until I'm traded, whatever it may be. There have been other issues as well. Hell, I even tried being upset, but

they showed me, yeah, yeah, okay, that ain't fit to work. So then they weren't going to set a precedent, even with Chase having two years left on a deal, okay, we're going to pay you early. That's not us. That's not what we do. We don't care who you are. And they've proven that, and they've stood

firm on that stance, regardless of who it's been. So I understand. He's going to get his money this year, though. North of 40. But let me tell you what you do yeah but see here's the thing Ocho you have to think a year or two in advance before you decide to hold out so now hey if I'm married baby hey no extravagant spending we finna lock this thing down because I feel we might be in a protracted holdout oh So now I've got to make sure everything is lined up because they know my money

where it is. They know. So now they know I got 30 million. I'm sitting on 30 million. I'll sit on these first eight, nine games. I'll come back because I got to make sure I'm vested. I got to make sure I'm not going to give them a whole year. Y'all going to do something.

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Give me me. I need all that. And then, you hear Ocho. They want a first-round draft pick for Trey Henderson. Ain't nobody going to give you that. Y'all want me to give y'all a first-round draft pick and pay a $30 million? You don't think someone is willing to give up the back-to-back 17-pack?

Absolutely not, because I know you can't keep it. I know you can't keep it. I know you can't keep it. Why would I pay? I sure am. Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Why didn't somebody trade for Cooper Cupp? Because they knew the Rams was going to cut it. Oh, they want to take it on their salary?

Come on, man. No, you want me to give you, Ocho, you want me to give you a first-round pick and pay him 30 bucks. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Okay. Listen, we on the same page. We on the same page.

Yes. Yeah, for sure. So, no, I don't have a problem with Josh. But if somebody says, no, I want all the money, I ain't got no problem with them. Because anybody that goes through the fire, you deserve whatever you think you can get and whatever that team will pay. But it just goes to show you, but like you said, they didn't have to do anything.

But it just, hey, he won the MVP. He's been a model citizen. For all indications, he's been great in the community. I ain't got no problem. I have no problem with them paying him. I have no problem with him leaving a little money on the table. I ain't got no problem with it. That's an individual.

Man, he could have left some for who? You ain't out here taking these licks. You ain't out here. You ain't training. You ain't away from your family and talking about what I could do. Nah, you should keep your mob clothes because I'm going to do what I'm going to do.

What's in the best interest of? Shannon family. That's what I don't like too. I think the fans are confusing and saying, oh, T. Higgins making 26. Oh, that's enough. That's a lot. He should be well off with that.

I mean, they need to stop comparing themselves and put them in the shoes of athletes and what they should or should not get. Or should or should not meet. Because you're not going to meetings oh i get it but they're looking at but a lot of times fans looking at it from their perspective and let's just say let's just if i take a fan and i say okay you make 150 000 of course 26 million is a lot of money to you but if you feel you make you should make 300 000 and somebody and somebody and your boss said without 150 000 is plenty, you're going to look at him sideways. You have to look at it from an athlete's perspective and the prism and the arena that he or she is in.

You can't just say, of course, if I'm making $75,000 a year and somebody offers me $1 million a year, yes. I bet we've been there. Yes. You're talking about a guy that made $5 a day. So if I'm making $5 a day and somebody's going to pay me $60,000 a year, you're damn right I'm going to take it. Or if I'm making, on one summer, I made $337.

Now you mean to tell me somebody's going to give me $200,000 so yeah when you look at it in your terms that's an exorbitant amount of money

but when you look at a guy and he's already making $15 million and he's put up these type of numbers no that's not enough for him

based on what he's done. And he's not going to let you. They don't view it like that. The fans don't view it like that. I wish they were able to separate the two. And I got a lot of Bengal fans that got on to me

simply about my issues with T being able to hit the open market because I'm understanding, understanding what T can get and what he's deserving and why fans want him to stay for their own selfish reasons. They want him to stay for their own selfish reasons, just keeping the band together.

And I'm looking at, you know, for long, long term, you know, based on what he's been able to do, despite even with injuries that he's had, because I understand how good he is once he hits the court. I understand how good he is, once he hits the court. I mean, hit the court. Once he hits the field. I know what you get. So I know he's going to get well, well north of 32, 33 if he hits the open market.

That's all I'm saying. And people say, why wouldn't you want him to stay? He needs to stay. 26-5 is enough. I mean, man, that's not what it's about. That's not what it's about. Listen, I love my bangles. Live, live, eat, shift, sleep, die, bangles.

But I also understand that he's deserving of what he is. I understand how this works. You don't take home team discounts on your first deal. You don't do that. No, not the first one. Maybe the second or the third one. But not...

Because people look at it like, hold on, man, Miles done got two deals. Now you done got two max deals. Ain't took no discount. Now, if he want to take a discount on the third one, that's his prerogative.

But if he doesn't, that's also his prerogative. I don't feel I should be obligated to help a billionaire stay a billionaire. I don't feel I should be obligated to help a billionaire stay a billionaire. Fans don't look at it. Fans are like, oh, we pay your salary. Well, you pay the owner. You help the owner become a

billionaire too. But you don't look at it like that. Y'all just look at the player. Because the likelihood that you see the greater likelihood that you're going to bump into the player in the grocery store at the car wash the mall

as opposed to the owner so you feel a connection to that player like oh but while y'all talking about y'all play player salary let me ask you a question who y'all been paying

for them yachts that these owners that you feel Jerry Jones that a Jeffrey Lurie that a Arthur Blank who y'all been paying for them yachts that you feel Jerry Jones that a Jeffrey Lurie that a Arthur Blank who y'all been paying for them the ones that continue to show up concession stands

who y'all been paying for that helicopter laying on that by practice field at Jerry's World huh talk to him so y'all ain't got no problem y'all don't have no problem paying for that. But when a player

asks for... Oh. Okay. Hey, ain't no thing. Y'all want to pay? Look, y'all rather pay a billionaire and help him stay there?

Because guess what? Those owners are going to be owners a lot longer than these players are going to be players. Now you figure it out. Now you tell me. Got to get as much as you can. Hey, why the stove is hot? What NFL player has played

as long as Jerry Jones has been the owner? What player has played as long as Mr. Kraft has been the owner? I'm just curious. So y'all been playing their salaries in those big homes, for those yachts, and those mansions. But now, okay, we cool. We good, Ocho.

Who can the cool says he will not be getting married until he wins the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm ready to get married anytime soon. I'm trying to win a Super Bowl, Ocho. I am. What you think, Ocho? I like it. I mean, depending on where you are in life, I think that that scenario we talked about night before last, or maybe last night, simply about the quarterbacks and how

things come to fruition, how life changes for the better when you get married, when you have that structure and discipline on your hip. A man that finds a wife finds a good thing for the quarterback situation for some reason like life it just everything falls in falls in order you know like it's like a domino effect the receiver i'm not sure it affects you in either way so i understand putting the coolest focus don't want to focus on winning a championship

which he has a good chance of doing especially especially with the addition of my guy, the greatest rock runner of all time, outside of myself and Devontae Adams. Matthew Stafford at the helm, Mr. Gunslinger himself, he has a good chance to do that. So I get it. And you see the quarterback, they get it, though, Joe. You see Josh Allen got engaged. Dak Prescott got engaged.

Jalen Hurts got engaged. Patrick Mahomes got married early. I mean, you look at, I don't think Joe has engaged or anything. I don't know if he's in the business. I got another scenario for you. I don't even think Dak Prescott had gotten paid yet. Dak Prescott gets engaged and gets married, something of that sort. And all of a sudden, boom, $60 million just came out of nowhere.

I'm like, wait a minute. Shit. Oh, that's what it takes? Wait a minute. Hey, I'm finna go, hey, I'm finna grab, go grab somebody, dog. Hey, shh. L. Joe, they give it out a quarter of a bill?

Listen, it's something about it. Now, listen to me. I have, I, you, I told you, I've been trying to, I've been trying to get you on the same page for a very long time. That's a bull, yeah. You got to pull the trigger. I'm telling you, I've been trying to get you on the same page for a very long time. You got to pull the trigger. I'm telling you, man.

Listen, it's 2025, right? Yeah. I'm going to take this year. I'm going to take this year. I'm going to relax. I'm going to work. I'm going to grind. I'm going to have some fun.

No, I ain't going to have no fun. I'm going to grind. The top of 2026. I'm going into 2026 With a ring on my finger I'm getting married I ain't got time to play I ain't got time to play

Life is short I'm on the back half now I ain't got that many more good years left in me You hear me? I ain't got I ain't got I ain't got too many more I'm talking about good years

I'm talking about good years Listen I'm talking about good years. Listen, my 20s, my 30s, I'm going to be 50. I ain't got time to be playing. What are we talking about? Think about it. What are we talking about? Really think about where we are in life.

Seriously. We done played around in our 20s having fun. We done played around in our 30s having fun. We done played around in our 20s Having fun We done played around in our 30s Having fun We done played around in our 40s I'm finna be 50 What we doing baby

I'm finna get married Excuse me I ain't mean to I've been doing real good Talk to me You remember the song Come on don't make me cry there. Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips away? I told you I don't measure my life in years.

I measure my life in summers. And I'm constantly thinking. I'm waiting on my blood work to come back so I can see what my, is everything okay, my physical. Based on my family history, probably somewhere between high end, probably 20 something. Based on my family history, mom, dad, family history, so forth and so on. You're right, H.O. Come on, man.

Come on. There we go. Come on, man. Remember what I was talking about, FFC? That's growth. Right there. That's growth. It's time to get serious.

I'm with you when you're writing that. Come on, take your time. It's just, it's just, all this, you know, you win awards, you lived your dream, you've done a great job trying to raise kids. And there are times I think,

like, damn, everything that I've accomplished, take the football side, that's good. Now, who are you doing it for? Why are you doing it? And don't you want somebody

to share that ride with. Come on, man. I'm sure driving cross-country is fun, but I think it's better if you drive across-country with somebody. Listen, without no Thelma,

there was no Louise. What would be the point of Thelma if there was no Louise? They got Clyde, but who the hell was Clyde without Bonnie? Huh? Without Weezy,

there's no George. If it wasn't for Tom, who the hell was going to chase Jerry? So we need a part, we need a carnival, huh? Somebody, man. Some of the greatest stories in life Is always too

It always has been But you know You feeling good in your 20s Aw I just ain't worried about it I'ma find me somebody You feeling good in your 30s Aw man don't worry about it I'ma run through this little decade of 30s Don't worry about it. I'm going to run through this little decade of 30s.

Don't worry about it. Man, I done ran through my 40s. Oh, man, what I'm doing? I'm looking at my watch. Wait a minute. I'm on the back end now. I'm on the back end. I done climbed a mountain, and I'm scaling over the mountain now to go downhill.

Man, what we talking about? And the time went by so fast. It did, bro. It absolutely did. And it just dawned on me like not too long ago, man, what the am I doing? Like I'm just acting like

I can't get this time back. I'm wasting. So it make it easy for me to move a certain way based on I can't get this back. I'm wasting. So it make it easy for me to move a certain way based on, I can't get this back. I can't. Now if I was

in my 20s, I understand. Okay, I could play a little longer. You know, I'm a 30. I could play. I still got time. Man, shh. What? One thing about that time. You can't get it back and it do not stop. It do not stop

Shh Man, please Ocho gives his list of best wide receiver duos And Chad Johnson He got number one, Chase Higgins Number two, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith Number three, Jeddah and Addison Number four, Evans and Godwin

Five, Armand Ross, A. Brown, J-Mo Number six, Hill, Wad. Number four, Evans and Godwin. Five, Armond Ross St. Brown. J-Mo. Number six, Hill Waddle. Number seven, Lunt Atlanta's Drake London and Mooney. And the rest haven't played as a unit yet. Yeah. Let me go to that. All right. I had to pull that.

I had to stand up for this, too, because, you know, I got excited about this one. Obviously, I'm not being biased. I actually have Chase and Higgins first for a reason hell I played for the goddamn Bengals and they are listen AJ Brown and Devontae Smith they just won the Super Bowl yes now again they do they oh my god how do I say this I and I don't mean to be rude I don't mean to be rude they don't throw the ball as much over in Philly as opposed to the Bengals. You know what I mean? But A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith are one hell of a duo down there in Philly.

Jettas and goddamn Jordan Addison, boy, they had a hell of a season regardless of who the quarterback is. Sam Donald comes in there. J.J. McCarthy gets hurt. They do what they do best Phenomenal duo Evans and Godwin What more can I say?

They did it with Tom Brady And they did it with Baker Mayfield And they're going to do it again this year Amon Ross St. Brown And J-Mo Nasty work Nasty, nasty work Now the only reason I have

Tyreek Hill and Waddle so low, and then the quotations, I got quarterback injury. Obviously, Tua got hurt, and everybody's numbers were affected by that. Listen, I got London and Mooney. Mooney at seven. Yeah, Darnell Mooney. The rest of them, they haven't played together. I just look good because of the names that appear together.

You're looking at DK and George Pickens. You're looking at Devontae Adams and Puka Nakua. Yeah. I mean, listen, the names are good. They just haven't played together, so I need to give them a number. You need to see something. I'm just curious, Chet. You like my list.

Would you change it? I mean, the order to me, I think it's good the way I have it. Yeah, I mean, look, I think the thing is, I'm not so sure I'd change anything, Ocho. I would have Chase and Higgins too because Chase is the best receiver in football. Now,

some people might say, I don't know, it might be Jetta, but I think Chase right now is the number one. Right. So, I don't think anybody's going to say A.J. is better than him or Mike Evans, St. Brown, any of those guys. I think Chase right now is the number one. Right. So I don't think anybody's going to say AJ is better than him or Mike Evans, St. Brown, any of those guys. I think Chase, I mean, the Triple Crown validates what we know. Right, right, right. And then Higgins.

So, okay, Higgins, Devontae, it's close. Yeah. But I think because Chase is number one, I like that group. I like AJ and Smitty. Me, sometimes I get a little perplexed, and I'm like, damn, AJ, like, he won the Super Bowl, but he's, like, complaining about catches. But I get it.

But then again, I don't. At this point in time, Mojo, I would not, not now. After I won the Super Bowl, it's all about celebration. Right. It's all about celebration. Me, I have this conversation behind closed doors with Jalen Hurts, the new OC, Sirianni. I mean, Ojo, he's just like, that's just me. Yeah, you know what I don't like, Unc?

What is it? This is the business side of things. You talk about him not having a production, right? Or him not getting the catches. Or him not having the yards that he should. Because you know how they're going to play with him later? You know what they're going to do to him? Right. They're going to come talk to him, right?

And he's going to say, you know what? Maybe a year or two from now, now based on your salary and what you're making and the numbers you're putting up, it really ain't making no sense paying you this kind of money when your production ain't what it should be. Then look at your numbers.

So they'll use it against him so I understand what he's doing and why he wants to argue the fact, well, I need the catches so the production matches what my salary is. So the minute your production don't match what your salary is,

what's the first thing they want to do? They either want to let you go or they want you to take a pay cut. Ocho, but you know you're going to jail and hurt. You're not going to have the numbers that Chase has.

Yeah, I know. They got Saquon back there. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying, it's different. Ocho, what receiver you know got a 2,000-yard rusher and they got a 100-catch receiver

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we thought that's where he was going before they traded up to take Trey Lance. I thought that would have been perfect. Because you mean to tell me I believe he's just as athletic or I'm just as strong as Ron Purdy? Hold on. Because think about it. If you took Mac Jones and where you were,

you'd have kept all those first-round picks. Right. You wouldn't have had to give up all of that. Mm-hmm. But hey, I do think,

I do think, because I think Mac Jones was really good in his rookie season. When he had an offensive, when he had an offensive coordinator, Right. Josh McDaniel,

in his ear. Mm-hmm. For some reason, for some undone reason to me, you know what? I think we're going to put two guys in his ear that's never called an offensive player in their life. I think that'll work out okay, Ocho. And it was terrible.

It didn't. But hold on, I got a question. Something you just said, when you said about him going to the 49ers, about reviving, something about him playing the position of quarterback. Now, if I'm not mistaken, they do have Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy, who commands a $35-$40 million salary coming up soon, huh?

Yeah. So exactly what part of reviving his quarterback career is Shanahan going to do? He's going to get an opportunity to see how you do things. And guess what? Maybe Brock Purdy say he don't want to play. Well, he don't want that. Because sometimes I got to get how you do things. And guess what? Maybe Brock Purdy said he don't want to play. Well, he don't want that. Because sometimes I got to

get leverage on Yocha. I got to get leverage. Nah, you know ain't no leverage there. Not with that. Not when you command. Not when you getting ready to make that kind of money. Ain't no leverage. Guess what? Brett Favre didn't think they had no leverage either, did he?

Aaron Rodgers didn't think they didn they had no leverage either, did he? Aaron Rodgers didn't think they had no they didn't have no leverage either, did they? Now, hold on. You know how these teams work. You know how these teams work. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know. I know. I know.

I know. They'll eat that money like, Ocho, they'll eat dead money. Think about the money that the Broncos, they paid Russell Wilson down with $40 million. Right. Can I ask you a question?

Yes. We saw a small sample size of the Mac Jones, right? Yes. Patriots. Yes. We saw a small sample size of the Mac Jones, where was he last year? Jackson Yes. We saw a small symbol size of Mac Jones. Where was he last

year? Jacksonville. At Jacksonville. Mm-hmm. So all of a sudden, just for some reason that he might be the answer if things don't work out with Brock Purdy. Yes. Okay. I'm with you. I like how you got

that. But what I like, if you think about it, Ocho, if you look at these guys that had resurgence, look at a Sam Darnold, look at a Geno Smith, it was a talent around them. Around them. That'd be, yeah. Geno, all of a sudden, he got DK. He had Lockett.

He had Smith and Jigba. Look at Sam Darnold. He had Addison. He had Hawkinson. He had Jetta. He had Jones in the backfield. So now if I put complimentary pieces around him, I'm not saying sometimes I got to have an airboat. Right.

I don't need that much water in order to get to where I need to get to, Ochoa. Come on, man. Now, if I'm on a pontoon, I need a lot of water because that thing hit me. I need some buoyancy. So I'm not saying that he's a guy that can elevate. I'm saying maybe he needs a situation where guys need to elevate him. Because if you look at him when he was at Alabama, when he had Waddle, when he had Devontae, when he had Mechie, when he had Najee in the backfield,

how did he look, Ocho? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's think about what they got over there with the 49ers. Now, they don't have nothing like what you just named. Now, they have some very, very, very good players. Good players, yeah. They both gone. Brandon Jennings, the real deal.

No, you mean IU? No, I said, no, Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings for where? For the 49ers. You mean IU? No, I said, no, Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings for where? In San Francisco? 49ers. Brandon Jennings? Yeah. Brandon Jennings.

What position did he play, Ochoa? Received. Juwan Jennings? Oh, Juwan Jennings. I'm tripping. You got me talking about basketball. The basketball player? Yeah, I'm talking about Juwan Jenner, Juwan Jenner.

You got it. Listen, who was talking about Brandon Jenner earlier? P, Master P. Okay, they still got, yeah, Juwan Jenner's nice. Purcell came on, you know, last. Now, are you coming off an injury? Yeah. They still got Kittle.

Oh, you still got Kittle? Coming back. We'll see how C-Back can hold up. I mean, listen, I think they're going to be alright. They still need that boy. You know, I understand what I mean. They still need that

man, listen, that boy. I love Juwan Jennings. I love what they have. They still need that doll. Like Master P said, they still need that doll. And I'm talking about from a receiver standpoint can do it all. Ocho, check this out.

Daniel Jones signed with the Colts. Reports sound like there may be a quarterback competition between him and Anthony Richards. Man, please. Ocho, tell me the time you ever seen somebody sign a backup for $14 million. If they've signed a receiver receiver you making $5 million they paid the wide receiver that they brought in $17 million tell me what you thinking

yeah I know what it is it's funny how they play that game huh it's funny how they play the game what you mean what game they playing what you paying them you saw what it they playing? What you playing them? You saw what it was when he was in New York, right? Yes.

Okay, so you bring him in for a quarterback competition for what? But maybe it's a good thing, huh? Maybe this is a good thing for Anthony Richardson. You mean you tell me? You mean to tell me you're going to bring somebody in to beat me out in my spot? After you already saw what he was able to do, don't get me started. I think it's a good thing for Anthony Ray.

Maybe this will propel him. Not that he needs motivation anyway. He doesn't need no motivation. Not in the quarterback position, you don't. But this will get you in line real quick. Because it sends a message. We don't believe in you. We don't think you're the long-term answer

for our team. They benched his ass last year. That should have been a clear message right there. I mean, but you know, they benched him for a specific reason. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If Tom Brady came out,

if Patrick Mahomes came out of the game, they getting benched next game? Absolutely not. Thank you. Tell me the backup player. Tell me the backup player. Tell me the backup player in the NFL that's making $14 million.

Any position. Tell me the backup player that's making $14 million. It probably ain't none, huh? Exactly. So what'd that tell you? Yeah. That's crazy how they play.

That's crazy. Who do? Daniel Jones got some dirt on somebody or something? He might have a tape where somebody want to go. Ain't no telling. Hey. What, 14? What, one year or two year?

One year. Golly. Yes. Yeah, he know something. He probably know where they got Jimmy Hoffa at, boy. Yeah. Damn. So, you're right.

Ochoa Mie. This is a clear indication. I don't know when the coaches talk or when the organization talk if Anthony Richardson was listening. They got his undivided attention now. They got his undivided attention, Ojo. Undivided. Ojo! Rogers was released

by the Jets today. Negotiations are ongoing between the Steelers and Rogers. Here's what Mike Florio is reporting. The ball is reportedly in Aaron Rogers' court. The Steelers are simply waiting for a decision from Rodgers. Regardless, it's tempting to think that Rodgers, who not long ago was potentially out of options, has found a way to make it all about himself again.

In just two weeks, Rodgers has gone from the guy who has reached out to the Giants to a guy who has options. Whether he's doing it on purpose or just doing what he does, he's become the center of the NFL's attention for maybe one last time. We're focused on him. We're talking about him. We're not. As long as the Steelers don't move on to another veteran quarterback,

he can take his time. At some point, however, they'll need an answer. And when he gives them one, he'll likely complain about all the attention that he's handling on the situation naturally generated. Look, Ocho, you and I weren't talking about it. No. We were talking about the people that had gotten signed. Right.

We talked about, like, it was a possibility that he was going to get released. They made a statement like, look, this is what we want you to do. The giant said, they released a statement, said, no, we're moving on. They thanked him for the two years that he was there.

Blah, blah, blah. But as of today, if he ain't signed, ain't no more Rogers talk. Yeah. Not for me.

Now, maybe you want to bring it up. Hey, let's talk about this right here. Okay, fine. But until he signs, I don't really know.

There really is no joke. Right. I have a question. What other veteran quarterbacks are out there right now outside of Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson. Okay, Russell Wilson, to go back, I think Russell Wilson is visiting the New York Giants and the Cleveland Browns, if I'm not mistaken.

Outside of Russell Wilson, who else is out there? Or is that it? is visiting the New York Giants and the Cleveland Browns, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Outside of Russell Wilson. Who else is out there? So is that it? I think that's pretty much it, Ocho. Yeah, so I mean... I mean, Cousins, it seems like Cousins could be available via trade.

Right. But nobody ain't trading because he got that money guaranteed. Now, y'all release him. Y'all pay that money and then we'll pick him up at minimum. Ah, I see. I got you. But I ain't trying to take on somebody that got guaranteed money.

I ain't trying to pay that. Y'all, hey, I'm not going to bail you guys out for your bad decision. You made that decision. I told you Ocho last year. I said, Ocho, it doesn't make sense. I said, at his absolute best, he's got two years. I said, Ocho, if you sign him and he got one, you stuck. Yeah.

You stuck like with a bad song on the elevator. And damn, you got to go to the top and stop at every floor in between. Chat, y'all know what I said. I said, Ocho, I get what you said, Ocho. The young guy comes along. I said, but Ocho, to pay this kind of money and could potentially only be a one-year deal, you got $100 million fully guaranteed on a $180 million contract. And lo and behold, he really didn't make it through the whole year.

Right. I just, you know, I'm like, man. That's crazy. Well, listen, Aaron Rodgers is in a good place. He's in a good place. Oh, Jameis Whiskers is available also. Okay. I can see that.

I can see the move. I can see that move. I can see that. What about Flacco? Isn't Flacco available too? Flacco? I think Flacco available too? Flacco? I think Flacco's available too. Because Flacco was in Indy last year. Right. And if he was still there, there would be no need to sign Daniel Jones.

Daniel Jones, right. So the mere fact that they signed Daniel Jones probably gives me the indication that Flacco is also a free agent. Could Flacco circle back and be in Cleveland? Sure. I like that. Could he be a play? Could he be a play and be in Cleveland? Sure. I like that. Could he be a play? Could he be a play in the Giants? That's crazy, man.

Now that I think about it, I'm trying to figure out who fits what and who fits where. But listen. Gardner Mitchell just got released also. Yep. Man, listen, with DK and Pickens, you get a gunslinger now? Boy, you can make some magic, bro. They let Najee Harris go.

Yeah, I think he signed with the Chargers. Okay, yeah, he did go with the Chargers. Hey, Mike Williams just signed back with the Chargers too on a one year. Did he? Yeah, he went back. Yeah, he went back with the Chargers. Hey, Mike Williams just signed back with the Chargers, too, on a one-year. Did he? Yeah, he went back. Yeah, he went back. But if you think about it, if you go back and look at Pittsburgh, their last first rounders, they haven't gotten a second contract.

All their first rounders, they declined a fifth-year option. I think it's like the last four. I saw this in the paper today. It ain't paying out, huh? I think Bush. You remember Bush, the linebacker they got? I think he's from Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

His dad played at Florida State. Devin. Not Devin. Devin Bush? Yeah. Yeah. No? I think that might have been his dad.

That might have been him, though. But, you know, they declined his fifth-year option. So, yes, Ash, I read the newspaper today. I got the USA Today at the hotel. I got the USA Today at the hotel today. So that's what George said, the same thing. Oh, you read newspapers? I was like, well, damn.

You make it seem like I can't read or something. I can look at the pictures today. So that's what George said, the same thing. Oh, you read newspapers? I was like, well, damn. You think it seems like I can't read or something? I can look at the pictures and fool them. But yeah, it was, it's going to be interesting to see. I'm ready to see what he say. I'm ready to see this,

this, with this legal hampering period, we kind of got an indication before because, you know what I'm saying, such and such going on. But now we kind of know. Now you shift your focus like,

okay, draft, who's going where? What's going to be done? Are there going to be any more moves? Are there any more moves to be made? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for that draft. What you got? What you got one, two, and three?

What you got? What you got, one, two, and three? What you think? Honestly, Ocho, this might be the... I have no idea. I mean, people say Abdul Carter. People say Cam. The only... I mean,

people are kind of like cool. I mean, now, I mean, I see reports Shador might slide out of the top 10. He might slide way down. He might even slide out of the first mile. I'm like, well, damn. I just don't,

what I don't understand, Ocho, how can a guy move up or down and a guy ain't played football in three months? It's all on team needs. And the needs of the team that are picking in the first five, they need a quarterback.

There's more than one, there are more than three teams in the first five or six picks that need quarterbacks. They're not going to play that game just out of spite. Just out of spite. No, they're not going to play that game.

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