Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Demarcus Lawrence takes shot at Cowboys, Josh Allen on lower salary, and no marriage for Puka!
Episode Date: March 14, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Demarcus Lawrence taking shots at the Cowboys, Josh Allen not breaking Dak’s record, and DK Metcalf gets engaged! We also discuss... Jimmy Garopollo not wanting to play for a bad team and much more!06:15 - Demarcus Lawerence to Seahawks16:49 - Josh Allen on lower salary 32:48 - Puka Nacua saving marriage for after Super Bowl39:43 - Jimmy Garoppolo on previous teams40:41 - DK Metcalf and Normani engaged 44:30 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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this week tank took some shots at the cowboys when he got there. Let's take a listen to the video, courtesy of Hawk Blogger on YouTube.
Take a listen to this, Ocho.
Uh-oh.
No, Dallas is my home.
I made my home there.
You know, my family lives there.
You know, I'm forever going to be there.
But, you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there.
So, yeah.
We here.
We here.
Demarcus Lawrence, welcome to the Seahawks
thanks for joining us
wow
hold on Ocho
Michael Parsons in
this is
this what rejection
and envy look like
there's some clown-ish
D-Law responded
calling me a clown
won't change the fact
that I told the truth
maybe if you spent
less time tweeting
and more time winning,
I wouldn't have left.
Demon.
I like it.
Wow.
I like it.
I like it.
Wow.
I like it.
They don't really feel like that about each other.
You know how it is.
You know, when somebody leaves
and they go somewhere else
and they understand
and they see how their culture is.
And listen, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl.
How long ago?
How long ago that was?
That wasn't that long ago.
2012.
Yeah, 2012.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
2020.
2013.
2013.
The Ravens won in 2012.
They won in 2013.
Listen, they won more recently than the Cowboys have.
Correct.
I can tell you that.
And Mr. Lawrence, who's been in Dallas
for a very long time and understanding why
they haven't won one, as opposed to how
the fans see why they haven't won one,
and understanding that Jerry's bottom line
isn't really about winning, but making money,
he actually has
the ground to stand on being able to say that
now that he's going somewhere else. Because
you can see how things are run.
You can see how things are run. He can see how things are run.
Well, hell,
they haven't won a Super Bowl or trying to win one
or building the type of team
to win one
in a very long time.
They haven't.
So he's just telling the truth
and understand, Micah,
Micah has to do,
you got to come,
you got to defend your team,
you got to defend your squad.
For me, Ocho,
you have to be careful
when you go to another team because
you know the emotion of it and you're like oh yeah i'm so happy to be here we're so much this
team is so much better than the team that i left so you have to be careful of that because it's
easy to get caught up into that because i remember having my press conference and i was like i wanted
to say certain things but i had to be like okay okay, Shannon, come on now. You can't. Be the bigger person.
You're happy that you enjoyed
your 10 years in Denver.
It was an opportunity.
Hey, somebody going to give you
another opportunity
to be what you were.
And you appreciate that.
I'm a little surprised
that I'm surprised D-Law
said what he said.
I'm surprised Michael
said what he said.
And I'm really, really surprised D-Law said what he said. I'm surprised Michael said what he said. And I'm really, really surprised
D-Law responded.
Not really. How could you not?
How could you not? You got two
people that love each other. You know, hurt
people hurt people hurt people.
Yes, true. That ain't real.
Which of our two dudes that play
the same position that been on the team, you know,
three, four years, how many years they been together?
They don't really feel like that.
I thought you would have said that
just because we play together, we don't mean we
get along like that.
Yeah, yeah, even so, but they get along.
I'm telling you. I know them boys.
You know.
Let me ask you a question.
You ever called TJ a clown?
You ever called TJ a clown?
You ever called Carson a clown?
Nah, nah. You ever called Corey D TJ a clown? You ever call Carson a clown? Nah, nah.
You ever call Corey Dillon a clown?
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, damn.
I'm trying to figure out.
You ever call Big Willie?
Willie, my homeboy from the eight.
You ever call Willie a clown?
What the hell?
You mean to tell me you ain't called nobody no clown that you still cool with?
You got to understand.
I'm an offensive player, and I get along with everybody.
I'm just trying to figure out
so who have you called a clown
that you love and you cool with?
Nobody.
I think I love everybody. That's my problem.
I think that's my problem.
But again, it's football.
That's love talking know That's love talking
That's her talking
Man I used to go to war with you
What were you talking about?
We used to watch
We used to study film together
What you talking about?
We was in the weight room together
What is you talking about?
Let me ask you a question Ocho
Name the three people
That'll tell you the truth
Drunk
Kids
Angry people Mmm Name the three people that will tell you the truth. Drunk, kids, angry people.
They'll tell you.
Listen, that's a young.
Can I say something real quick?
Yeah, you can.
Anytime someone is angry at you, whatever they tell you when they're angry, you have to hang on to that.
Well, you just said he didn't mean that.
You said when Michael Barnes is rejected, he even look like
there's some clown stuff. You told me not to
bring today. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on. Stay with me now.
I really wasn't talking.
I really wasn't talking male to male.
I'm just throwing it out there for
the fellas.
You got to stay with me. Oh, so
when a woman tells you that,
I'm hanging on to everybody telling me that. You got to hang with me. Oh, so when a woman tells you that. I'm hanging on to everybody telling me that.
You got to hang on to that.
Because, listen, when they're drunk, they'll tell you how they really feel.
When they're angry, they'll give you everything you wish for.
Oh, that's how you.
Because a drunk mouth is sober thoughts.
Hey, okay, bet.
I'm going to put that in my back pocket and I'm going to hold on to it.
You can't never forget nothing.
But listen, you know them boys.
That ain't serious like that, man.
I do have to defend my team.
Well, since you're taking a shot at me,
you're calling me a clown.
Well, I'll tell you what.
Well, if your ass get off goddamn,
stop tweeting and doing whatever you're doing,
maybe we win more and I wouldn't have left.
And you were going to leave
regardless because they
were going to pay you.
True.
You weren't staying no way.
But you see what I'm saying?
It's just,
it ain't just bickering
back and forth,
you know,
to friends.
Don't get it.
Now,
I bet you see him
in a video or a picture
sometime later on
in the season.
Watch.
That was your thing?
Before the season started.
I mean, I didn started. I mean,
I didn't,
I mean,
look,
D-Law's been there
for a minute,
second round draft pick,
played a number of years there,
had a hell of a career
in Dallas.
I would have never thought
he would leave
because one thing Jerry does,
Jerry take care of his players,
guys that he drafts,
he believes in playing,
paying his homegrown talent
and D-Law's been there
for at least a decade, maybe longer.
Maybe longer.
But he felt it was time for him to move on.
He wanted to be in a situation that he felt gave him a better opportunity
to win.
I'm sure the money, what, three years, $15 million?
Per year.
I'm saying per year, three years, $45 million, if I'm not mistaken.
Don't quote me on that. I think I read something.
I didn't know anything about this until we just get ready to come on the show
and ask Ash, text me, asking me, did I see this?
I didn't because I was exhausted. I came in and went to bed.
I ain't going to lie. I came in and went to bed. I ain't going to lie. I came in and went to bed, man.
He played
11th season of Dallas. He's about to play
his 12th season.
Wow.
I like it.
Matter of fact, where the schedule
at? Do the Cowboys play the Seahawks this year? That's what I want to know. I hope it. Matter of fact, where the schedule at? Do the Cowboys play the Seahawks this year?
That's what I want to know.
I hope so.
That's what I'm talking about.
Give me, make it a little bit more entertaining.
I would feel more entertaining if one was on offense and one was on defense.
Okay, I understand.
You don't show both of them on the defense side,
so they're never going to come in contact. It's kind of like me and you talking trash to each other. You on offense, I understand. You know, if they don't show both of them on the defense side, so they're never going to come in contact.
It's kind of like me and you talking trash to each other.
You on offense, I'm on offense.
Go ahead.
Even if we play the same side of the ball and we going at it,
that means now we got to show up.
Now who's going to be more productive?
Who's going to have the better game?
Who's going to get the most – who's going to get the most sacks?
Whatever it may be.
Who's going to impact the game more even if we do play the same position?
It don't matter.
Because when I was on the Ravens, if I was talking trash to another offensive player,
I already know my stats are going to be better than yours
because you were going to do jack-ish.
Not against that defense.
Oh, no.
So it didn't matter.
It didn't matter.
It didn't matter what I did.
I might have one catch that was going to be more and more than you got.
That's what I do.
That's what I know.
And if you did get a catch, you're going to wish you hadn't caught it.
Because they were going to put hats on your ass.
So, for me, yes, I love arguing with D. Lyman.
That's who I got into the most argument. Rest his soul Taz Kennedy.
Rest his soul Chester
McLaughlin. I stayed into it
with them. I stayed.
Every time
we played, there was not one game
that I didn't, when Chet was with
the Raiders or Kansas City,
that I didn't get into it with him.
Chet was,
Ted was the same way.
Sam Adams too.
And Sam became one of my,
Sam,
big Sam.
Yeah,
he became one of my best friends.
But boy,
hey,
nah,
man.
And the linemen get sore and sick.
They're like,
man,
you ain't got to block him.
I was like,
well,
hey,
that ain't got nothing to do with me.
He talking crazy to me.
What you think I'm going to do?
Let him talk crazy to me.
And because y'all got to block him, don't take crazy back.
Man, I wish I might.
Put your big boy pants on.
Buckle up.
Forget you, Reroy.
But hey, that was some great times on the show.
Yeah.
We're going to try to get Tank on the show.
He's about to land, and he's going to try to join the show.
But if we don't get him tonight, best believe we'll try to line him up for you guys on Sunday because that's what we try to do.
We try to, you know, obviously Ocho and I,
but we do try to bring guests from time to time because I think sometimes
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So we'll keep you posted
as we find out more about that. Josh
Allen was asked why
he didn't look to
break Dak Prescott's $60 million
per year record contract extension.
I know it's weird to say, but
what's $5 million more going to do
for my life right now that I can't already do?
I've lived a really good life. I got a
house, got a car. We're good.
Do you like Josh saying this? I love
Ocho. We're not talking about it.
Ocho, what the hell can I
do
with $330 million
that I can do
with $400 million? So he said,
I'm making $55 million.
What can I do with $55 million
that I can only do with $60 million?
Right.
What?
Once you get to a certain number,
it's like,
like Elon Musk is the world's richest man.
Let's just say he's worth $300 billion.
Ocho,
what can I do with $100 billion?
What can I do with $50 billion?
What can I do with $10 billion
that I absolutely need to do to have that?
Yeah.
So he's like, bro, $55, $60.
Do you see how I got a quarter of a billy guaranteed?
A quarter of a billy.
Damn that.
If you're going to guarantee me a quarter of a billy, I'll make $40 million.
If you're going to guarantee a quarter of a billy, Ocho.
So me personally, not to cut you off, Ocho, I love that he said that.
Tell me what you think.
Right.
I mean, I like it.
It makes sense.
Yes.
It makes complete sense.
Who would argue the fact?
I'm just curious.
Who would argue the fact? I'm just curious. Who would argue the fact?
Outside of someone with...
And you know what happens when you get greedy, right?
Mm-hmm.
It only makes sense.
Pigs eat well.
Hogs get slaughtered.
Hey, man.
Stay right there.
Stay right there Stay right there
Man you better start
Boy you better start man
You better
Bring that
Listen hold on
Bring it to me slow now
Yeah
Pigs eat good
Hogs get slaughtered
I don't
I don't know what scenario I'm going to be able to
use this in conversation or argument,
but it's
greed.
Greed.
That's what it's talking about, greed.
But like Josh said,
Josh, at the end of the day,
and the thing is, what Mahomes did,
it's like, okay, he got that big number,
and we knew Mahomes, if Josh is worth a quarter of a billion,
how much is a guy that's been to five Super Bowls, won three two-league MVPs,
three Super Bowl MVPs?
What's that worth?
But he's like, you know what?
At the end of the day, I need to be able to surround myself
because I can't win this thing by myself. No matter how great I am, I need people be able to surround myself because I can't win this thing by myself.
No matter how great I am, I need people around me.
I mean, look, football players have to have that because there's a cap.
Baseball players are always, for the most part, going to get the most money
because they keep trying to push the salaries through the ceiling.
Right.
And so you see, ain't no, what's his name, Soto, Juan Soto,
taking a 500 million.
That's my homeboy, yeah.
Taking 500 million when there's somebody out there
that got 700 million for it.
You know, guys, they're not doing that.
Because they're like, look, it's not my responsibility
because there is no cap, Ocho. So it're like, look, it's not my responsibility. Because there
is no cap, Ocho. So it's like,
hey, whatever the market of bear,
whatever the team was willing to pay,
that's where we're going. So if
we got two, three, four guys on the team
that's making $200 million, $250 million,
so be it.
So absolutely be it.
But I love, I love
what Josh said.
And look, I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do.
Josh said, I'm good at 55.
I don't need 60.
Because anything that I want at 50, if I need 60 to do it, I'm going to be F-ed up anyway.
That's right. Listen, he kept it in the realm also from a point of being paid,
where I'm still being paid with the best,
but also we can strengthen points so we can continue to build around me
so I can be able to contend to compete.
Not only get to the AFC championship,
but also be able to compete and contend for a Super Bowl as well.
So I'm going to take 55.
I'm not going to take 60 because I don't want to take
60. It's going to take some of the potential
off the table for me based on what I can
put around me to help improve my team.
I can get a good player for five
million, Ocho. Listen, you ain't going to
lowball me too much now. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no. You ain't going to lowball me too much.
Ocho, you can lowball me. Give me a quarter
billion guaranteed. Lowball me all you want to. You can give me
five billion a year.
Hey, long
as I know I got a quarter billion
coming. As long as that guarantee
is right, huh?
For sure.
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Absolutely.
Look, I don't tell anybody what he
or she should do. That's you.
You make the best decision for you.
I don't have a problem with Josh
and his mentality.
Now, somebody like Chase, if Chase says, nah, bro, y'all made me wait.
I need all of that.
If I'm not mistaken, Josh had four years left on his deal.
Yeah, but listen, you got to understand,
they view the quarterback position a lot different than other positions.
A lot different.
And you have to understand the
bangles as well but the bangles won't do but you're not gonna bully you're not gonna bully
them they've shown that countless times when car upset when carson wanted wanted wanted wanted out
or he he didn't see fit and said i'm not coming back until i'm traded whatever it may be there
been other issues as well hell i even i even tried to try being upset but they showed me
yeah yeah okay that ain't finna work so then they weren't gonna set a precedent even with chase
having two years left on a deal okay we gonna pay you early that's not us that's not what we do we
don't care who you are and they've proven that and they've stood firm on that stance regards to who has been so i understand he's gonna get his
money this year though but let me tell you what you do yeah but see here's the thing ocho you have
to think a year or two in advance before you decide to hold out so now hey if i'm married
baby hey no extravagant spending we've been to lock this thing down because I feel we might be in a protracted holdout.
So now,
I got to make sure
everything is lined up
because they know
my money where it is.
They know.
So now they know
I got 30 million.
I'm sitting on 30 million.
I'll sit out
these first eight,
nine games.
I'll come back
because I got to make sure
I'm vested.
I got to make sure
I'm not going to give
them a whole year.
Y'all going to do something.
Y'all won't pay me.
Hey, I'm going to go somewhere else and get paid then.
Because y'all not going to do this.
Y'all told me last year y'all was going to pay me.
I come out and have one of the great seasons in NFL history,
and now y'all talking about y'all not going to pay me again?
Oh, that's not going to happen.
Oh, no.
That's not going to happen.
I'm sorry.
Y'all paid everybody else.
Y'all ain't got no problem paying everybody else. But now all of a sudden, y'all don't want to pay me. Oh, give. That's not going to happen. I'm sorry. Y'all paid everybody else. Y'all ain't got no problem paying everybody else.
But now, all of a sudden, y'all don't want to pay me.
Oh, give me me.
Yeah.
Give me me.
I need all that.
And then you hear Ocho.
They want a first-round draft pick for Trey Henderson.
Ain't nobody going to give you that.
Y'all want me to give y'all a first-round draft pick and pay him $30 million?
Whoa.
You don't think someone is willing to give
up the back-to-back? Absolutely not, because
I know you can't keep it. I know
you can't keep it.
So you're going to play hardball?
I sure am. Let me
ask you a question, Ocho. Why didn't somebody trade
for Cooper Cupp? Because they knew the Rams
was going to cut it.
Oh, yeah. They want to take it on their salary?
Come on, man.
You want me to give get a first round pick
and pay him 30 plus?
Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Okay, listen, we on the same
page? We on the same page?
Yeah, for sure. So, no,
I don't have a problem with Josh, but
if somebody says, no, I want all the money,
I ain't got no problem with them. Because anybody
that goes through the fire, you deserve whatever you think you can get and whatever that team will pay.
But it just goes to show you.
But like you said, they didn't have to do anything.
But it just, hey, he won the MVP.
He's been a model citizen for all indications.
He's been great in the community.
I ain't got no problem.
I have no problem with them paying him.
I have no problem with him leaving a little money on the table. I ain't got no problem. I have no problem with them paying him. I have no problem with him leaving
a little money on the table.
I ain't got no problem with it.
That's an individual.
Man,
he could have left
something for who?
You ain't out here
taking some licks.
You ain't out here,
you ain't training.
You ain't away from your family
and talking about
what I should do.
Nah, you should keep
your mob closed
because I'm going to do
what I'm going to do
what's in the best interest of
Shannon's family.
This is what I don't like too.
I think fans
are confusing
and saying, oh, T. Higgins making
26. Oh, that's enough.
That's a lot. He should be well off with that.
I mean, they need
to stop comparing themselves
and put them in the
shoes of athletes and
what they should or should not get.
Or should or should not get because you're not going to meetings.
Oh, sure.
But they're looking at it.
But a lot of times fans looking at it from their perspective.
And let's just say, if I take a fan and I say, okay, you make $150,000.
Right.
Of course, $26 million is a lot of money to you.
But if you feel you
make, you should make 300,000
and somebody, and your boss said, without
150,000, there's plenty to you. You're going to look at
them sideways.
You can't, you have to look at it from an
athlete's perspective and the
prism and the arena that he or
she is in. You can't just
say, of course, if
I'm making $75,000 a year
and somebody offered me a million
dollars a year, yes!
Yeah.
We've been there.
You're talking about a guy that made
$5 a day.
So if I'm making $5 a day and somebody
is going to pay me $60,000 a year,
you're damn right I'm going to take it.
Or if I'm making,
on one summer, I 337 now you mean to tell me somebody's gonna give me 200 000 so yeah when you
look at it in your terms that's an exorbitant amount of money but when you look at a guy
and he's already making 15 million and he's put up these type of numbers.
No, that's not enough for him based on what he's done.
Yeah.
And he's not going to let him.
Go ahead.
They don't like that.
The fans don't view it like that.
I wish they were able to separate the two.
But I got a lot of Bengal fans that got on to me simply about my issues with T being able to hit the open market because I'm understanding what T can get and what he's deserving and why fans want him to stay for their own selfish reasons.
Correct. reason just keeping the band together and i'm looking at you know for long long term you know based on what he's been able to do despite even even with injuries that he's had because i
understand how good he is once he hits the court i mean hit the court i'm gonna see what's he has
to feel i know what you get so i know he's gonna get well well north of 30 32 33 if he hits the
open market that's that's all i'm saying people say, why wouldn't you want him to stay?
He needs to stay.
26.5 is enough.
I mean, man, that's not what it's about.
That's not what it's about.
Listen, I love my Bengals.
Live, live, eat, shit, sleep, die, Bengals.
But I also understand that he's deserving of what he is.
I understand how this works.
You don't take home team discounts on your first deal.
No, not the first one.
Maybe the second or the third one.
Because people look at it like, hold on.
Man, Miles done got two deals.
Now he done got two max deals.
Ain't took no discount.
Now, if he want to take a discount on the third one, that's his prerogative.
But if he doesn't, that's also his prerogative.
I don't feel I should
be obligated to help
a billionaire stay a billionaire.
Fans don't look
at it. Fans are like, oh, we pay your salary.
Well, you pay the owner. You help
the owner become a billionaire too.
But you don't look at it like that. Y'all just
look at the pleasure.
Because the likelihood, you see, the greater likelihood that you're going to bump into the player in the grocery store, at the car wash, the mall, as opposed to the owner.
So you feel a connection to that player.
Like, oh, okay.
But while y'all talking about y'all playing player salary, let me ask you a question.
Who y'all paying about y'all playing player salary let me ask you a question who y'all playing for them yachts
that these owners
that you see
are Jerry Jones
that are Jeffrey Lurie
that are Arthur Blank
who y'all playing
for them
the ones that
continue to show up
who y'all playing
for that helicopter
by practice
feeling at Jerry's World
huh
talk to him
so y'all don't have no problem by practice field at Jerry's World. Huh. Talk to him, Lon.
So y'all don't have no problem paying
for that.
But when a player asks for...
Oh.
Okay. Yeah.
Okay.
Y'all want to pay?
Y'all pay?
Y'all rather pay a billionaire
and help him stay there?
Because guess what?
Those owners are going to be owners a lot longer than these players are going to be players.
Now, you figure it out.
Now, you tell me.
Got to get as much as you can.
Hey, why the stove is hot?
What NFL player has played long as Jerry Jones has been the owner?
What player has played long as Mr. been the owner? What player has played
long as Mr. Kraft
has been the owner?
I'm just curious.
So y'all been playing
their salaries
and those big homes
for those yachts
and those mansions,
but now...
Okay.
We cool.
We good, Ocho.
We moving on.
Yeah.
Puka Nakua
says he will not
be getting married
until he wins
the Super Bowl
I don't think I'm ready
to get married
anytime soon
I'm trying to win
the Super Bowl Ocho
right
what you think Ocho
I mean
I like it
I mean depending on
where you are in life
I think that
that scenario we talked about
night before last
or maybe last night
simply about the quarterbacks
and how things come to fruition how life changes for the better when you get married
when you have that structure and discipline on your hip a man that finds a wife finding the good
thing for the quarterback situation for some reason like life it just everything falls in
falls in order you know it's like it's like a domino effect. It does. I'm not sure
it affects you in either way,
so I understand
Poole and the Cool's focus
to want to focus
on winning a championship,
which he has a good chance
of doing,
especially with the addition
of my guy,
the greatest rock runner
of all time
outside of myself
and Devontae Adams.
Right.
Matthew Stafford at the helm,
you know,
Mr. Gunslinger himself,
he has a good chance
to do that.
And you see
any quarterback they get to know, Cho. a good chance to do that. And you see the quarterback, they're getting it, Ocho.
You see Josh Allen got engaged.
Dak Prescott got engaged.
Jalen Hurts got engaged.
Patrick Mahomes got married early.
I mean, you look at, I don't think Joe is engaged or anything.
I don't know if he's seen it.
I got another scenario for you.
What's that?
I don't even think Dak Prescott had gotten paid yet.
Dak Prescott gets engaged and gets married, something of that sort.
And all of a sudden, boom, $60 million just came out of nowhere.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Oh, that's what it takes?
Wait a minute.
I'm going to grab, go grab somebody, daughter.
Hey.
They give out a quarter of a bill.
Man, listen.
It's something about it.
Now, listen to me.
You, I told you.
I've been trying to get you
on the same page
from the very first time.
You got to pull the trigger.
I'm telling you, man.
Listen, it's 2025, right?
Yes.
I'm going to take this year.
I'm going to take this year. I'm going to relax. I'm going to work. I'm gonna take this year i'm gonna relax i'm gonna
work i'm gonna grind i'm gonna have some i'm not gonna hang on handle my no fun i'm gonna grind
the top of 2026 i'm going into 2026 with a ring on my finger i'm getting married i ain't got i
ain't got time to play i ain't got time to play but life is short i'm on the back half now i ain't
got i ain't got that many more good years left in time to play Life is short I'm on the back half now I ain't got
I ain't got that many more
Good years left in me
You hear me?
Alright
I'll tell you what
You know what old Joe?
I ain't got
I ain't got too many more
I'm talking about good years
I'm talking about good years
The good
Oh
Listen
My 20s
My 30s
I'm going to be 50
I ain't got time to be playing
Man what we
What we talking about?
You ready
Let's think about it
What we talking about? Like really's think about it what we talk
about like really think about where we are in life seriously we done played around in our 20s
having fun we done played around in our 30s having fun we done played around in our 40s
i'm not finna be 50 what we doing baby i'mna get married. I ain't got time for this shit.
I've been doing real good.
Ocho.
Talk to me. You remember the song?
Come on, don't make me cry now.
Gee, isn't it funny how time just slips on away?
Wait, Ocho?
I told you I don't measure my life in years.
I measure my life in summers.
Yes, sir.
And I'm constantly thinking I'm waiting on my blood work to come back
so I can see what my, is everything okay, my physical.
Based on my family history,
probably somewhere between
high end,
probably 20-something. Based on my
family history, mom, dad, family
history, so forth and so on.
You're right, though, Joe.
It's time. See? Come on,
lad. Come on.
There we go.
Remember what I'm talking about
FNC
that's growth
right there
it's time
it's time to get serious
uh
yeah
I'm with you when you're right now
come on
take your time
it's just uh
all this, you know, you win awards, you've lived your dream, you've done a great job trying to raise kids.
And there are times I think, like, damn, everything that I've accomplished,
take the football aside, that's done.
Yeah.
Now,
who are you doing it for?
Why are you doing it?
And don't you want somebody to share that ride with?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
I'm sure driving cross country is fun.
But I think it's better if you drive across country with somebody.
Listen, without no Thelma, there was no Louise.
What would be the point of Thelma if there was no Louise?
They got Clyde, but who the hell was Clyde without Bonnie?
Huh?
Yeah.
Without Wheezy, there's no George.
If it wasn't for Tom,
who the hell was going to chase Jerry?
So we need a partner.
We need a combo, huh?
You see, somebody, man,
some of the greatest stories in life
is always two.
It always has been.
I know.
But you know,
you feeling good in your 20s?
Aw, I just ain't worried about it.
I'm going to find me somebody. You feeling good
in your 30s?
Aw, man, don't worry about it. I'm going to run
through this little decade of 30s. Don't worry
about it. Man, I done ran through my
40s. Oh, man, what I'm doing?
I'm looking at my watch. Wait a minute.
I'm on the
back end now. I'm on the back end. I done climbed a mountain and I'm looking at my watch. Wait a minute. I'm on the back end now.
I'm on the back end.
I done climbed a mountain
and I'm scaling over the mountain now
to go downhill.
Man, what we talking about?
And the time went by so fast.
It did, bro.
It absolutely did.
I'm like, what the hell?
And it just dawned on me
like not too long ago.
Man, what the am I doing?
Like I'm just acting like I can't get this time back I'm wasting.
So it make it easy for me to move a certain way based on I can't get this back.
I can't.
Now, if I was in my 20s, I understand.
Okay, I could play a little longer.
You know, I'm a 30. I could play. little longer you know I'm a 30 you know I could play
you know I still got time man shh
what ain't no more playing
one thing about that time you can't
get it back and it do not stop
it do not stop
shh man please
during his Rams
presser intro Jimmy Garoppolo
took a shot at the Raiders for being
a bad organization I've for being a bad organization.
I've been in a bad organization,
and I've seen how I can wear on you throughout the year.
Just talking to my brothers, my family, didn't want to go through that again.
It is, man.
Losing is tough.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Especially when you're in the wrong place, there's really nothing you can do.
Get up, go to work, you know, put your chin strap on.
Bite down.
And work through it.
Especially, Ocho, especially if you've been in a winning organization.
If all you've done is lose, you don't know what it's like.
Think about it.
He came from the Patriots.
What did they do?
Win.
He went to the 49ers.
What did they do?
Win.
Now you go to this team.
And it's like pig pen. You got
that dust cloud behind you all
the time.
It does wear on you.
And it can wear on you.
Congrats to
DK Metcalf and
Normie. What?
Normani. He wanted to
show her off. Want wanted to show off her ring
at the Steelers presser.
Ocho,
take a look at this.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
She right there.
Hold it right there, baby.
Yes, sir.
When did you propose?
Did you propose
back in Seattle, here?
No,
her and her family.
My family and her family
was in Houston.
It was my sister's spring break and just thought about getting the whole family together just for a big kumbaya and, you know, joining our families, you know, with the ring.
Thank you.
Show that thing off.
Hey, I like that.
I like that.
I like that. I like that, too, Ocho. I like that. like that too Ocho
I like that
Congrats DK
Congrats congrats boy
You see what I'm saying
You see DK
You done put that ring on in there right
So the man who find it the good thing
Now watch the type of season you have now
Now watch the kind of season you have
And we gonna come back And we're going to talk about
this three, four months from now and I'm going to say
there it is again.
There's another prime example of a young
brother.
All right. Let me ask you this, Ocho.
Yeah.
Who going to throw the ball?
It don't matter.
It don't matter. Him and his wife
going to say a prayer before the game
and the ball
is just gonna end up
in his hands
that's how God works
nah bro
it don't work like that
can I tell you
who's gonna throw in the ball
who
number 8
Aaron Rodgers
yeah
I
listen
Birdie already told me
so I
I didn't mean to
be the one
I'm not
I'm not saying
I'm Adam
Adam Schefter
I'm not saying I'm I Schefter. I'm not saying I'm...
I'm just telling you
who is going to be throwing the
ball. And you can say you heard
it here first. When it
does come out, they can give me credit or
they don't have to. It really doesn't matter to me.
It don't matter to you?
It don't matter to me. I'm just telling you what it's going to be.
Alright, we'll see.
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It's time for Q&A.
Hey, man.
Yes.
We've been leaving the show too soon or night when I'm full of energy.
And we need to take advantage of me having this kind of energy.
Let's stay on for another hour.
What you say?
I got to work tomorrow.
I got to work tomorrow, too.
I'm here in New York.
Sheldon Pope says,
Ocho, is Steph going to send you the 4,000 three-point shot ball made to add to your Braun game ball collection? I mean, you got
40,000, 50,000,
and still 4,000
three-point shot ball.
Woo!
That was funny.
They still playing tonight, ain't they?
Yeah, they playing Sacramento.
I should have shot him a text.
If I shot him a text, he probably would have
gave it to me, so I'd probably shoot him a text. If I had shot him a text, he probably would have gave it to me.
So I'll probably shoot him a text afterwards and see if he's willing to come up off of it.
You know, listen, a milestone like that, of that caliber, I'm not sure if he'll let that ball go.
But we'll see what happens on the next show.
Tony, Big Buck Buchanan.
What's good, Uncle Nocho?
Much love.
Say, man, what do y'all think?
Can my Falcons trade cousins?
We don't want nothing but a third or fourth round pick for him.
It ain't the pick.
It's not the compensation.
It's that contract.
Yeah, big deal.
Ain't nobody taking that.
Listen, Kirk can just be a backup right now.
He's not starting no way.
Michael Penning Jr. is a starter now going forward.
No. But they want to trade him to get that contract off.
Maybe I think it would be interesting.
Let's see where Russ, okay, Russ, we got three spots.
You got Pittsburgh.
You got Cleveland.
You got the Jets.
Now, we believe those teams are going to probably select a quarterback.
Now, obviously, Pittsburgh, I don't think Pittsburgh will take a quarterback that high.
But Cleveland probably would take a quarterback.
Now, they might not.
Excuse me.
They might take Travis Hunter and the rest of the seat.
Maybe take Cam Moore.
Maybe they take Shador Sanders.
Giants, same thing.
Do I take Cousins for a year, give these guys an opportunity to learn from a veteran presence,
how to go about it, how to study tape,
how to be the face of a franchise.
Is that what they do?
Because maybe
they don't get, you know.
But I'm not
really trying to pick up that.
Now, if it's going to be a situation
where the Falcons are going to play the bulk of the contract,
I'll take him on, Ocho.
But he still got like 50 million dudes.
He do 50.
Yeah, that's tough.
Yeah.
And he's less mobile than he's ever been.
And he's never been a mobile quarterback.
So imagine an Achilles injury, Ocho,
to an already stationary quarterback.
That's crazy.
Tony, you might be stuck.
Isaiah Lancaster, what's good, Uncle Ocho?
Two questions.
Will Josh Allen go down
as the second greatest dual threat quarterback
behind Lamar Jackson?
And, Unc, who are your top five
clutchest NBA players of all time?
I mean, mobile, I mean,
we got to just throw
Steve Young in there, man.
We be shortchanging
Steve Young.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See,
I think a lot of people
forget because
they're stuck in the present.
They're prisoners
of hope right now.
But Steve Young,
hell,
Randall Cunningham also.
Yes.
Randall Cunningham
is also in that same.
And you want to go back
a little further.
Roger Stalbeck.
Man, Fran Tarkington.
You know?
But Lamar Jackson and Michael Vick, they set a different standard.
They set a different standard.
Oh, yeah, they did.
I still can't.
As great as Lamar Jackson is, as great as Lamar Jackson is as great as Lamar Jackson is
regards to what the numbers may say that Michael Vickie experience when he
was in Atlanta.
Yeah.
I'll buy it.
Cause I don't,
you know,
I was there.
You know how people love a carnival in Brazil or people love when rodeo
comes around or people love in new Orleans,
love Mardi Gras.
That's what Michael Vick in Atlanta was.
It was an experience that you had to go and see to appreciate and understand.
Forget the numbers.
I don't care what the numbers say.
You had to be there.
You had to be.
Yeah.
You had to see it.
Clutch is NBA player of all time.
No order.
Jordan, Kobe, Braun.
I'll take Bird.
Bird?
Lab Bird.
And I'll take... Damn.
Who else I'm going to go with?
Who hit some big shots?
I guess I... I I mean hell
I guess because I just remember
I just remember the Olympics
I'm going to take Chef Steph
I like it
Dizzy Baby 01
Sup Ocho
Hey Unc
It's a pleasure meeting you today
It's Jerry Rice the GOAT
At Route Running
He made it look easy
Love you guys
Also Unc
Why you lying to Old Spade
Saying he set the field on fire
Cause I ain't wanna get
No ass whipping
Somebody gonna ask
If it's a choice between me
And somebody else
Getting ass whipping
I'll put that on you
Somebody else gonna hit it
I'll do the tea
I'll do the tea Jerry I'll do the team.
Jerry was technically sound.
Was he the greatest route runner?
No.
He was the greatest receiver.
Now, we can put that to bed.
But look, Ocho, Devontae Adams,
Torrey Holt was a route runner.
Jimmy Smith, Kena McArdle,
my brother ran great routes.
Man.
Just in short.
What Uncle's trying to say.
The greatest route runner right now.
Is sitting on the other side of this goddamn camera.
His name is Chad Johnson.
From Liberty City.
One of the few people.
Who will come out the huddle.
Line up at the line.
In bumper run.
Will tell the corners.
The route.
Which most of them you can ask.
And they will tell you about it.
And still be able to get open.
He's one receiver.
That will talk trash.
The week before a game game and still go out there
and execute.
You know how difficult it is?
The game of football in general at the highest level is very difficult.
But to be able to go through media day on Wednesday and say what you're going to do,
then you have a team of 11 people trying to knock your head off and still go out and execute
what you said you were going to do on Wednesday and still pull it off on Sunday?
Come on, man.
Stop playing, man.
Huh?
Pure entertainment.
Behind the gash.
Okay, hold on.
I ain't finished.
I ain't finished.
Let me give a piece of it, man.
I am the only receiver in history
that wasn't paid
for his receiving skills,
but I was paid because of my feet.
Now, let that sink in. Okay. They paid me of my feet. Now let that sink in.
They paid me for my feet.
They ain't paid me for nothing else.
Beyond the gas,
Ocho, you never got to explain
why you think Ronaldo
is the GOAT over Messi.
And do you think Ronaldo
can help Portugal
win the World Cup next year?
Hey, listen.
Messi is God-given.
Messi is...
God said...
Boom.
That was Messi.
Messi is an unbelievable talent.
I love him to death.
I have an appreciation for him
and his craft. But Cristiano had to work and work his way to where he is now. I'm just saying, when you watch Messi, obviously he had to work on his craft it but understanding where cristiano came from and understanding how you had to hone and get better at his craft to become who he is today
and then just the comparison of the two greats is unnecessary because it's all based on preference
on who you like more i prefer the more the flashier version of cristiano and you know just
it it suits me better based on my personality. I just like him better.
I love Messi as well.
And that takes nothing away from either one of their greatness.
They're both great.
And that's it.
And funny thing, we talk about Messi, Cristiano,
my favorite player in Balotelli anyway.
I just love both of them and what they've done for the game
and are going to do for the game later on in life when they're done playing.
J213, hey, Ocho, Honor Women's History Month,
what do you think your grandmother and mother Ocho
would say to you today?
What would you want to say to them?
That's a good one.
My granny would be...
My grandma would be happy, boy.
She'd be extremely, extremely happy.
My grandma would be happy. My mama, be extremely extremely happy my grandma would be happy uh my
mama she would probably get on me i i just not do anything to have my mama back boy it ain't got to
be long just cuss me out one more time that's that's it let me let me get one more of them
you sap sucker you motherfucker you you you i just give me one let me just give me that one more time um i still
got her messages before she passed away i showed you right yeah yeah yeah i'm invested i refuse to
erase it because there's a message of a whole a paragraph i'm talking about long on here just
keep going on and on her let me have it and there would be no better way to lose her than the way i know her best
right let me have it i didn't get a chance to say i love you i don't even think it would have
been right for her to pass on with with us exchanging those words those pleasantries
that's not how our relationship was right we she went away and transitioned how we've always been going at it.
And that's,
that's,
that's one of the greatest memories I will ever have of her,
especially those who have watched her and seen her in action on marriage bootcamp
family edition.
Oh,
right.
That's I love it.
Yeah.
Love it.
Yeah.
My,
uh,
man,
it was,
yeah,
she would like,
I mean, she would always come up behind me and she'd be tapping me on my traps.
It's like, hmm, look at this little big old boy here.
If I didn't know he was going to be this big, I'd have threw him off the train.
You know what I'm saying?
So she was, she was extremely, she was extremely proud of what I've become.
And she was proud that how obedient I stayed,
how humble I stayed.
And still to this day now,
everything I do is for my family.
It ain't about me.
I'm good.
But when she was on her deathbed,
I promised her, I said,
I got everything, Grady.
And so my responsibility now
is to make sure my mom,
my sister, my brother,
my three kids
are good.
That's all I care about now.
That's it.
All I think about is to make sure I update my trust.
I update that every couple of years.
I want to make sure everything is put into place.
Everything is understood.
This goes here.
This goes there.
This goes here.
This goes there. this goes there, this goes here, this goes there.
That's my responsibility.
That's my sole purpose moving forward in life is to make sure those people
that I love the most
never have to worry about anything.
So,
she would be proud that I've been able to
and that's been
my grandma passed in, what, July
of 2011. So that's been 14 years grandma passed in, what, July of 2011?
So that's been 14 years, and I've been able to keep my promise.
Saint the Snipe, hey, Ocho, you know I've been kissing on them dogs?
But this man looking at you weird,
but toss a little salad with whipped cream technique and all them toast.
Man, hey, Saint the Snipe,
I know this man man just talking about eating
listen i mean listen listen i understand what he's saying but obviously i also have had dogs
before so i understand the love you do have for your dogs i i i get it but also if there's some
things that you can do with having love
for dogs, when you have love for women, you
should be able to do the same things.
I kiss in the mouth. I do.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Can I tell
you something? What?
Can I say just one thing? What?
You do understand
they put a crack in the back
back there for a reason.
And I'm just saying,
I'm going to leave it at that.
I don't want to veer off track.
Yeah.
That's all.
I'm sorry, Ocho.
Well,
you need to fill it up.
But not with my tongue.
Oh, no.
See, there you go, Ocho.
Fame low back, J. Ocho, could you wish my best friend, Ty, happy birthday? oh no see there you go famous old man Jay Hogan on show
could you wish my best friend
Ty happy birthday
and keep
and keep being successful
at this
at life
thanks guys
yes Ty
happy birthday man
happy birthday twin
yeah man
um
hopefully you watching that
cab hopefully
thank you for your support
uh thank you all you guys but Ty Hopefully, thank you for your support.
Thank you, all you guys.
But, Ty, happy birthday.
Hope you did something fun today.
And guess what?
Hopefully, you have many more of those to come.
Cupcake Mama.
Good evening, guys.
Shannon, will you be in Charleston, La Portia when the spring-summer tour schedule be announced?
I don't know if we're going.
We're going to Charlotte.
I don't think we're going to Charleston. I'm going to Charleston for La Portia. Yeah, I'll be announced. I don't know if we're going to Charlotte. I don't think we're going to Charleston.
I'm going to Charleston for LaPortia.
Yeah, I'll be there.
Can't wait.
We have one last day pending.
Oh, look. We do have
one last day pending, and then
we'll announce. Planning to have tickets go
on sale next week.
Oh, where are we going?
Where are we going?
The tour. Oh, we going? The tour.
Oh, we're going on tour.
Yeah.
Hey, so like the Beatles.
Yes.
Like the Five Heartbeats.
Yes.
Like the Temptations.
Yes.
Oh, I got to get my outfits ready.
You want us to go ahead?
Ash, you want us to go announce it?
Okay.
All right.
We're going to kick off June 13th in Baltimore at the Lyric Baltimore.
Oh,
we're going to have Lamar Jackson.
June 14th.
We're in Philly at the Met Philadelphia.
July 12th,
Charlotte,
Ovens Auditorium.
July 19th,
Los Angeles,
the Ophium Theater. July 25th, Los Angeles. The Orpheum Theater?
July 25th,
Miami, huh?
How do they pronounce that?
Orpheum Theater in Los
Angeles. July 25th,
Miami. The Fillmore, Miami.
Are we in Miami?
Yes.
July 26th,
New York Town Hall.
I'm in New York right now.
Chicago, the Anthem Theater.
Okay, okay. Chicago. Okay.
Hey, somebody in the chat, if you're in the chat, can you write this down?
Can you tweet it to me? Can you tweet the city and the dates?
Just tweet it to me real quick because I ain't had no chance to write it down.
But I'm excited.
Boy, I forgot we going on tour.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I'm ready.
I love big women saying, hey, can cuz do the river dance for fans once again?
Nah, them days over.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I can dance. You can't move like that days over, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can dance.
You can't move like that no more. I can't do that.
Alright,
hey, Desmond Hunter said,
hey, Uncle Nocho, I really enjoyed the show. Just wanted
a happy anniversary shout-out
of 10 years on
314 to my love, Candace.
Happy anniversary, Desmond
and Candace. 10 more.
Hopefully you have 10 more in you.
Ten more after that.
Wish you all the best, man.
Congratulations and happy anniversary.
Sir Case, my guys, what's up?
Two questions.
Is it fair to expect athletes to sacrifice everything for success?
And what's the importance of film study asking for a new AAU coach?
In all opinions, how successful do you want to be?
Yeah.
The greater the goal, the greater the sacrifice must be to accomplish it.
That's all I'm going to tell you.
The greater the goal, the greater the sacrifice must be in order to achieve said goal.
If you're not willing to sacrifice, it is in my estimation you don't
deserve the success that comes along with that sacrifice you do what you want to do that's an
individual-based decision some people perfectly fine with hey i want to do this i don't want to
miss that but you look at people sometimes people say this is what i want to be i want to be the
best at this without sacrifice you can't be the best at anything it don't take a it takes more
than a commitment it takes a singular focus yeah anybody that's been successful, ask them about the sacrifice made to be successful.
Film study.
AAU, coach, I'm assuming AAU is basketball.
Because you need to know what the team want to do,
where they want to go.
I mean, if film study wasn't important,
hell, we could just show up and play.
That's it.
There's a reason why.
Guys get still.
How many times have you heard, I knew this play was coming.
They like to run this at this time on the clock, and guy gets a steal.
Same thing in football.
I know in this formation, they like this area of the field,
this down the distance.
This is what they like to do.
I was just, hey, believe that they were going to do this from this formation.
And I read it and I did it.
Film study.
So film study is extremely important.
What do we got?
You got anything?
Anything?
The Cowboys
are signing
Miles Sanders.
Yeah, from
the Panthers?
Yes.
Okay.
They signed
Miles Sanders,
but wouldn't
sign,
nevermind.
Y'all know
who they
wouldn't sign.
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