Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: DeRozan/Drake beef, Ezekiel Elliott out, Washington hot spot

Episode Date: November 3, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochochinco” Johnson react to Sacramento Kings’ DeMar Derozan returning to Toronto and rapper/Raptors superfan Drake threatening to pull down DeRozan's jersey if it's ever retired. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Dallas Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott being ruled out vs. the Atlanta Falcons due to disciplinary reasons, Adam Schefter reports since before Dan Snyder owned an NFL franchise, players want to wind up in Washington playing for the Commanders and much more!03:13 - Demar Derozan returns to Toronto12:44 - Zeke inactive for disciplinary reasons24:45 - Schefter says players want to go to washington29:23 - Embiid update42:41 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the night of Vince Carter's Jersey retirement, the Kings lost to the Raptors. Drake responded to a question about potential DeMar DeRozan banner in the stadium. Drake said he'd put it down himself if one was ever hung. That came to fruition. DeRozan responded post-game, said Drake would have a long way to climb to take it down and wishing him good luck.

Damn. Why them boys beefing, huh? DeMar DeRozan from Compton. Yeah. Kendrick Lamar is from Compton. He, Kendrick Lamar, I think he was in Kendrick Lamar's video. Wasn't he in Kendrick Lamar's video?

Oh. Oh, he was something. Right, right, right. Oh, so he, oh, okay, I understand. And DeRozan used to play for the Raptors. So, it was probably, they were kind of cool or something, huh? They were. Oh, okay, okay. Now were kind of cool or something, huh? They were.

Okay, okay. Now I see, I understand the discrepancy. So, he kind of like, he was in the video not like us. Oh,

he was in that thing like jamming and shit? Okay, now, okay, now the content you just gave me, I understand

what Drake talking about. So, now you got to pick a side. Yeah, I think, hey, if I'm not mistaken, didn't Drake unfollow LeBron? Then he unfollowed LeBron too?

I mean, he would have, everybody, everybody, if you chose sides and you didn't choose him. Right. Oh, so, oh, so, oh, well, basically, listen,

this could be like a revenge tour now. This could be a revenge tour. So everybody that took shots at me. He went on stage. Yeah. You heard me? Yeah.

He attended. LeBron attended the Kendrick Lamar concert in June. Hey, you know what that means now? What? Hey, it ain't over. It might be. It might be war part two. So everybody that offended me and took sides.

With my enemy, I'm coming to see you. You got to see me. You got this. You got to see me. I'm just saying, I don't know what I don't know what's transpired. But, oh, that's how you feel. Oh, you finna play me. You play with the Raptors. You know, even though you from confident you, Compton, you spent time. We cool. I had you at my house. We've been on double dates with chicks. And now, Hendrick, we beefing and you pick his side just because y'all from Compton.

You could just play defense. You could play defense because you know we cool. We're not cooler than the guy I grew up in Compton with. On Bloods. You ride. You ride like that? Right. Them guys that you grew up with, Liberty City.

Who you ride with? Oh, you know, I'm with my dogs all day. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? We ten toes down. We ten toes down. You know, one foot in front of the other. Head high. Chin high. Because I got to see where I'm going. Come on, now. Yeah, I mean, look,

I think Drake is looking at it like, damn, damn, everybody done went against me. Boys I thought was cool, but I don't know how your homeboy from the city, he famous.

Let's just say Rick Ross, your homeboy, Rick Ross grew up in Liberty City. Yeah, he grew up in Carroll City right from the city. Right. He famous. Let's just say Rick Ross, your homeboy. Rick Ross grew up in Liberty City. Yeah, yeah. He grew up in Carroll City right down the street. So he like, hey, Ocho,

he beef with somebody and say, Ocho, I want you in this video. Yeah. You there? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, Ron? Yeah, man, listen, man, I, man, I.

And plus, even if they didn't grow up together, we from, I'm from Glenville. I'm cool with everybody from Glenville. Everybody? No, I ain't cool with everybody. But look, bro, there were 3,500 people when I grew up.

We got two traffic lights, bro. Come on. Right, right. My graduating class was 60 people. Damn. I think 60 was 60 people. Damn. I think 60. Maybe not that many. I like this, though.

This is good for basketball. This is good for the culture. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. You know, I'm kind of out of the loop. So you having to explain to me is kind of cool. So now I'm excited. So now I know Drake done follows LeBron. I know

Drake don't like DeMar DeRozan based on his decisions to be in a video, you know, after having a relationship with him and playing with the Raptors. I like this shit. Who else on the hit list? I don't know. But I don't follow that close. I think

it would, I think somebody I would follow. Yeah, I don't follow that close with you. I don't follow that close. I think it was, I think somebody, I. I like, I like. I would follow, yeah, I don't, I don't follow that close with you. No, I don't, no. Like I said, I think I was scrolling past something and they said LeBron, uh, Drake had unfollowed LeBron and, and, and, uh, and I kind of, kind of felt that like Drake probably would feel some type of

way after Kendrick Lamar was on stage. Well, excuse me, after DeRozan was on stage with K-Dot. Hey, listen. I like this. I like this. Y'all boys go to war, keep it with the pen. Just keep it with the pen and keep it

with the trash talk. Nothing outside of that. Make it entertaining. Make it fun. I'm all for it. See, I love all the boys, man. We got to... Look, like I said, I've never met Kendrick Lamar. I've met Drake once. He was cool with me.

Dabbed me up. It was at the Adele concert. I don't really know. The only... Cube and Snoop, I know them. it was at the Adele concert I don't really know the only like you know Cube and Snoop you know I know them I've been around them a lot especially because they used to come

on the show all the time especially on Snoop Lil Wayne from my days in Undisputed just saw him at the game but I don't really know anybody outside of that you know what I'm saying so I take people word they say they cool okay I take outside of that. You know what I'm saying? So, I take people's word.

They say they're cool. Okay, I take your word for it because I don't know and they like a little bit being around them because I don't really probably go to the places that they're going to be at. Me neither.

Me neither. Me neither. So, I'll take you guys' word for it, but... I like it. Who you like? I like it. I love everybody, huh?

I love everybody. I ain't got no problem with nobody you know i'm just yeah for sure you know i i love you i i love people's artistry i love people in their respective crafts and then they're and what they do and their creativity and vision and whatever it is and you know if y'all beefing go ahead and beef and make it entertaining because i need something to talk about. No, Unc well off. Unc don't deal with no fighting and no firearms. That's it.

Yeah, I ain't got time to be talking about Unc. I don't want none of that. Yeah, they talk about Unc. Somebody talk about Unc rich. No, Unc well off. Unc ain't rich. Yeah. Rich means you get a mega yacht. You go get you a mega yacht and not think twice about it.

I don't want I ain't put nothing on the water. All the water I'm getting into is the shower. I ain't getting no tub. Anything that a shark might be in, I ain't getting in it. I got you.

You ought to take a cruise for what? Go where? To be on that water all the time? I can't do no cruise. getting in it. I got you. I got you. It's like, man, you ought to take a cruise for what? Go where? Go what? To be on that water all the time? I can't do no cruise, huh? I done been in Miami all my life. I went on a cruise one time. One time on a little date, you know, with the

I ain't gonna say no names, but they gave me a little pill to take. What you call a little pill? I don't even know the name of it. Little tiny little pill. Dramamine? Yeah, there it is. Dramamine? Uh-huh.

Do you know I took that pill and they told me, well, this will help you, you know, with the... With nausea, yeah. Man, I threw up the whole goddamn... I spent the whole trip in the cabin. Sick.

I ain't been on a boat since. And this was back in 98. I ain't been on the boat since and this was back this was back in 98 i ain't been on the boat since but i would never cruise cruise nothing absolutely not no i ain't no i ain't no cruise guy i can get i get everything i need to get done right there on land. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? All that motion back and forth. I got that right there on land. I got that right there on land. Right there on land. Right there on land.

That's all. Right there. Yeah. You know, back in the, you know, your boy ain't what he was, was, Ochoa, but you know. You still get it done though, huh? You see that, Ochoa? You see that? Yeah. You're like, damn, huhcho, but you know. You still get it done, though, huh? You see that, Ocho?

You see that? Yeah. You're like, damn, huh? Yeah, I see. You be in the gym. Ocho ain't say, hey, but he say, like, damn, huh? You be in the gym all the time. That's all you do.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Hey, listen. Hey, honestly, we were about the same size that night in Vegas. I ain't going to zip up. I ain't going to zip up and show the people, but I'm sitting right now.

Yeah, you sitting about 85, 190? No, I'm about 210 right now. No. Hey, listen, it's 210. You see I'm in the house, so you know I'm all in. No, you're 80210. Ocho, Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott will be inactive for Sunday's game due to disciplinary reasons what exactly did Zeke do to warrant a benching

has not been revealed, it sounds as if he was told he'd be inactive for Sunday's game against the Falcons and that it went downhill from there he's never been a healthy scratch at any point in his career it feels like the end is coming for the Cowboys and Zeke. He has only 48 carries, 149 yards, averaging a 3.1

yards per carry, which is a career low. The Cowboys currently rank last in NFL in total rushing 519-19 and tied for last in rushing touchdowns with three. Ocho, what's going on? I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on. As bad as the Cowboys are playing, the fact that they are last statistically when it comes to rushing and then you have Ezekiel Elliott inactive, even though- They was last winning. They could be last without him. you have Ezekiel Elliott inactive? Even though... They was last with him. They could be last without him.

You ever heard something? The Cowboys need all hands on deck. All hands on deck. Whether he's playing... Emmitt Smith, Marshall Fault, ain't nobody helping him, Ocho. You just told me all the time.

You could do bad by yourself. I don't need somebody bringing me problems. Right, right, right. But I'm just saying, is this a distraction? You think Jerry did this to distract us from something else? Or do you think Ezekiel Elliott really did something wrong to warrant him actually being inactive and leaving his ass at home? Ocho.

Hey, you know what happened. What happened? They released Z two years ago. His injury. Huh? The injury. And then his face. You heard me? Ocho. Not only was his knee hurt, but he was making so much and it didn't coincide with what he was being paid. So you thought

he'd be better at $3 million a year? No. I ain't say that. So you thought he'd be better at $3 million a year? No. I ain't say that. So what are you saying? Listen, I just want to know that he's a healthy scratch. That's all I want to know. What happened? I know you know. Tell me.

I don't know, but what I'm trying to get you, I'm trying to see here. How many times we've seen it, people be married, get divorced, and get remarried only to get divorced again. There was a reason why you got divorced

to begin with. You know what that's called, Ung? Can I tell you what that's called? What's called? That's called insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting different results. When you ain't changed shit to begin with insanity. So what made them think Zeke?

First of all, I don't think he is inactive because of a production thing. I think something might've happened. Might've been an argument with a coach. Might've been a disagreement. He might have been an argument with a coach. It might have been a disagreement. He might have had an argument with Jerry. Oh, Joe. He got 48 carries

for 149 yards averaging 3.1. Zeke yards per carry has come down every year since the all-world rookie season. So he's done this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this.

Now, after you release him, he goes to the Patriots. They don't resign him because they only had a one-year deal. You expect his production to do that? I don't think they expect his production to do that. I think... I think they expect him to come in and be well

and contribute to the offense, not to be the Ezekiel Elliott of old. Hold on. He's an old Ezekiel. What are the other running backs doing on the team? Are they doing? Nothing. Okay.

No. So I know the reason for him being inactive. It had nothing to do with on the field. It's something that happened inside the organization. It'll probably never get out. Yeah, well, they said, I mean, they said, look, it sounds like he

had been told he was going to be inactive. Oh, well, who they brought up? They brought somebody up? I guess they're going to bring up a cook. Oh, okay. I see what they're doing. I see what they're doing. Okay. Okay, okay. I see what they're doing. I see what they're doing. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I see what they're doing. Okay. So they like cooking. They brought a cook up last week. Yeah. He only had about six carries last week, though, for 11 yards, if I'm not mistaken. Something like that.

Yeah. Damn, it's cold in here man shit I just don't for me I just don't get what people thought they were gonna get with Zeke. When you saw his numbers drop every single year, he had turned, he was no longer a quarter horse. He had turned into a plow horse.

A what? A plow horse can never be, a plow horse can never be a quarter horse again. Hey, that's messed up, man. No, I mean, people know what I'm talking about. I just got to be honest.. Hey, that's messed up, man. No, I mean, people know what I'm talking about. I just gotta be honest. I mean, that's what we gotta do. Zeke had a fabulous career growing.

And then, you know, he wanted his money. He had, I believe, he had earned the right to renegotiate that rookie deal. And from that point on, Ocho, he was never the same. He was never the same. He was never the same. Now, he got his money.

He should be financially secure for the rest of his life. Now, if he wants to get a job, okay, fine, get a job. But with the amount of money that he's made living in Texas with no state income tax, Zeke should be straight. He should be straight. How much money did Zeke make? About $60 million? $60 million? Let's just say half of that $30 million. Let's just say you

spent $15 million. He should have $15 million. Well, he might not last $15 million. He made $76 million. Okay. $15 million. Well, he might not last $15 million. He made $76 million. Okay. $76 million. So he's only going to spend about somewhere between 35% and 39% because there's no state tax in the state of Texas. So let's just say 40% of his money.

So $76. So that's $7. So $28 million from $76 is how much? $58? No, $48. That's $48 million. Yeah. $48 million. so 28 million from 76 is how much 58 no 48 that's 48 million yeah 48 million i'm gonna say for the sake of argument let's just say he spent 15 of them right he should be sitting on 30 he should be sitting on somewhere between 25 and 30 right i like it yeah man a man can't live off 30 million a year just just investments you should

30 million a year if you just do 7% that should pay you about probably about 200,000 a month a man can't live off 200,000 a month he got a much bigger problem yeah definitely man let me stop talking in bad pockets. But I'm just saying, yeah, now, if he got a habit,

oh, it'll be gone quick. But I don't think Zeke got no habit. But I just, like I said, I just don't know what people expect. Oh, we got Zeke back. There's a reason why the Cowboys cut him. Now, I understand that Jerry drafted it. Jerry looks at these guys, a lot of them like his kids. Right.

But I was under no illusion that Zeke was going to come back and provide what maybe the Cowboys had hoped or the fans were hoping. Because I saw none of that. I didn't see. Yeah, he's a plow horse now. He'll get you a tough one to. I didn't see. Yeah, he's a he's a plow horse. Now he'll get you a tough. He'll get you a tough one to two yards.

Oh, Joe. But those days when he got into the league, you remember, oh, Joe used to take it 30 yards for a touchdown. Take the screen. Right. I mean, but listen, but great

understanding after the career and what he's done so far in the NFL. I understood we was coming back to do come be the bell, but be the bell cow, you know, do the bell cow. Do the dirty work. Do the dirty work. Contribute to the offense. Keep the drive alive.

Third and two, third and three. Get that from me. Walk forward. Ocho. If if at some point in time you got to be let out the pastor. At that point in time, you got to be let out to pastor. Hey, come on, huh?

And at that point in time... Don't take him out to the pastor, huh? That's right. You just look around like, yeah. Is that time? This is my life now. Yeah, damn. It happens to us all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know when you first get in, Ocho, hey, man, I'm going to be like a doctor or lawyer. I'm going to play 20 years. And then you really realize, like, nah, hell no, I ain't. Yeah. I ain't taking these licks. But, uh...

Is that it? Well, look, I don't know. I don't know if Zeke got any kids. I don't know anything. I'm just saying, let's just say he's gotten he makes, he saved $20 million, $25, $30 million just passive income

off that. He's getting $150,000, $200,000 a month. You can't live off that, Ocho? Yeah. Now, if you got to have it, that's something else. And I don't know that he has one. But I'm just saying he should be comfortable. That's easy. And he's in Dallas. I mean just saying he should be comfortable. Right. That's easy. And he in Dallas.

I mean, he's Zeke Elliott. So, I mean, you can get a job in Dallas. I don't know, you know, what he studied in school. Yeah. He ain't going to need no job unless he wants to though. Yes. For sure. But that, but see, that's what I tell people.

Why you there making that money? Don't do anything crazy. Get all that money. There'll be a chance for you to show your ass once you get out the league and you done got all that money. You done got 50, 100, 200 million dollars. Then if you want to do all that crazy stuff, take off with it. Have at it. But nah, don't waste this opportunity. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company,

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And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.

Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adam Schefter tweeted, here's a sentence that hasn't been written or ordered in this century. Since before Dan Snyder owned an NFL franchise,

players want to wind up in Washington playing for the commanders. According to Schefter, in recent weeks, there have been players who privately stated or told their agents they wanted to be traded to the commanders. Ocho ranked the current teams around the league that players don't want to play for. You get Dallas, Las Vegas, Cleveland. Places that...

Oh, Carolina. We got to put Carolina in there. Listen, I think players will always want to play for Dallas. I'm going to take that out. I'm going to take them off that list. Cleveland, probably, because the quarterback situation even with James playing the way he played last week I don't think players are willing to go to Cleveland uh Carolina for obvious reasons because right now things aren't going well for them which one you're gonna put first so where you going first first uh not going where I'm not going first? Yes.

Let's go Cleveland. Over Carolina? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot we put Carolina first. Carolina first and then Cleveland after Cleveland and the Raiders. I mean, having the Cowboys in that is, to

me, it's ridiculous because it's still America's team no matter what you want, whether they're winning, whether they're losing, they steal the headlines regardless because of who they are. So I would never put them in a – and listen, anybody, anybody that knows football in general, if you're a player, you'd want to play for the Cowboys. You'd want to play for the Cowboys.

And plus, Texas and Las Vegas doesn't have, Nevada doesn't have state income tax. So that order was cool, right? Carolina, Cleveland, and Ray? Yeah, I can see that. Carolina, Cleveland, it get cold. At least in Vegas, you know, I got eight games at home. Right, yeah.

I'm indoors, no state income tax. I got the strip. Jacksonville, we added Jacksonville. Where you want Jacksonville? So would you go Carolina, Jacksonville,

Cleveland, Vegas, Dallas last? Or would you go Carolina, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Vegas?

You know what? I don't even like, man, listen. You know, Florida ain't got no state income tax either. And when I think about Jacksonville, they got the quarterback. They got the quarterback.

I really wouldn't consider it a place I wouldn't want to play because, hell, Brian Thomas Jr. could do it. Are we sure they got the quarterback? I mean, they got a quarterback that's making a lot of money. Are we sure? Hey, Brian. Are we sure? It's tough.

Hey, listen, players can coach his fight. I think Doug Peterson might be on the hot seat. If he doesn't get fired, there's one person who's going to save his job. That's Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. That's Trevor Lawrence. Hell, Trevor. Matter of fact, Doug Peterson, you need to thank Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. ahead of time.

Thank him ahead of time. Thank them ahead of time because if you don't get fired this season, I guarantee you it's going to be because of the play of those two. Man, I don't know how you keep that job if they don't make the playoffs. I'm just going to be honest with you. Make what playoffs? Who playoffs? I don't see how you keep that job

D. I don't see how you keep that job D. Well, but I don't see how you keep that job well but uh yeah I agree I think I'd go Carolina man but Cleveland fan base is so passionate they show up

been sucking for like forever and the fans they show up. They be out there tailgating. Look, you know, we played, I went to Cleveland obviously in Baltimore, they're in the same division. And they be out there.

We played them in Denver a couple of times at the old municipal stadium. They be out there, Ocho. Now, you don't get that kind of support in Jacksonville unless you win it. And you still ain't getting the kind of support that they get in Cleveland. And you damn sure ain't getting that in Cleveland. And you damn sure not getting that in Vegas.

Because a lot of the people in Vegas, they're like transient. You know, they came here from somewhere. They're not Raiders fans. But, nah. Yeah, Carolina will be last on my list I would say Carolina Jacksonville I put Cleveland third

because the fan base is passionate and we've seen when Jacksonville losing the seats empty like a bug okay Ocho more info has been released on Joel Embiid's incident. ESPN released a play by play of what transpired.

As reporters entered the locker room to talk to players, Embiid stood and confronted Hayes. The next time you bring up my dead brother and my son again, you're going to see me. What I'm going to do to you, and I'm going to have to live with the consequences. And I'm going to have to live with the consequences.

And I'm going to have to live with the consequences, Embiid said to Hayes. Embiid continued with several instances of profanity in the next few sentences. Hayes offered an apology, which Embiid did not want. That's not the first time, Embiid said. Embiid later said that he doesn't care what reporters say, but do you? But you do, Hayes answered. Clearly, he did. Embiid later said that he doesn't care what reporters say, but do you? But you do, Hayes answered. Clearly he did.

Embiid appeared to get louder at that point, and not long after pushed Hayes on the shoulder while the team public relationship chief got between them. Another PR person moved Tyrese Maxey's interview to the hallway outside the locker room, trying to clear reporters. At the same time, a team security person was asked to the media, not to report on what happened and be yelled over the security guard. They can do whatever they want and be said,

I don't give a. Boy, you're hot, right? I told you. Yeah, I told you that you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful.

You want to, you want to put a story out and you add certain things that insensitive to the individual for context for the readers you know you you can't tell people how to react now you will feel one way about it because you are not in his shoes and you didn't lose a brother you didn't name your son after a brother you didn't mention just using what he mentioned about legacy but hell you're not even playing so how you gonna leave a legacy for your child oh that's that's iffy that there's certain lines you don't cross you know having self-awareness and knowing what to say and what not to write now you can get your point across without bringing up

that you can just talk about him not being in shape how how much time he's missed, being overweight, his diet, his nutrition, all that, and why he's missed. Has he played this season yet? No. Yeah, yeah. There's so many different angles and layers you could appeal back and talk about outside of that. Now, what drew

the eyes and the viewers is the fact that you brought up the brother that deceased. All I'm saying is this, is that people said you played in the Olympics and you played after being injured in the regular season

and you limp it in the playoffs, but somehow you got healthy enough to play in the Olympics and now you can't play. Can you understand how that looks right i mean do you understand i mean yeah you're injured during the season majority of the season you limp into the playoffs you play in the olympics but now the team that's paying you 6060 million a year, you're like, I can't go. Listen, I'm with you when you're right.

I'm not trying to argue the fact. I'm just stating why he got angry. I can kind of empathize with him for someone who has lost a parent, who's lost a grandmother, who's lost a mom. I kind of get it in a sense.

So, listen, but you right you right you right too you right too i think i wish i wish he had my gene i would i enjoyed i don't give a what the hell you say i don't care it did not bother me it's ward off a duck's back as i call it i think i i think for Joel Embiid, because he's heard so much criticism about his weight, about his conditioning, about not being able to play, because that's always the theme every year.

When it comes to him? How much, how long is Joel Embiid going to be able to play? Is he in shape? Is he in condition? Will he get hurt? What's going to get hurt this year? Will it be his knee? Will it be this year? Will it be his knee?

Will it be his back? Will it be his ankle? What will it be? So think about it. There has not been one year because when you talk about the Sixers, there's always a caveat. Joel Embiid's help. Yeah.

Every year, that's the thing. Well, the Sixers can be good if Joel Embiid is healthy. Hey, I like the Sixers can be good if Joel Embiid is healthy. Hey, I like the Sixers in the East if Joel Embiid is healthy. I like X, Y, and Z, but it's all contingent. Right. And so I don't think, look, a lot of times, Ocho, a lot of times, not always, a lot of times, it's a culmination of a lot of different events that causes a player. Now you said

I don't believe it was just about the brother. I don't believe it was just about the baby. That might have been the final straw. But there was so much more water. There was already water in that bucket. Yeah. A few drops and it

started spilling over. I believe that's the case. That could be totally wrong. But I think, and it's plus, it's this guy. It's him. Right. That wrote the article. And I think he's probably, has he been critical?

He's been critical of Joel Embiid. So this has kind of been a theme. Oh, so he's one of those reporters. Mm-hmm. I got it. I got it. I got it. Woo!

No. But what, I mean, Ocho. Yes, sir. You drafted a guy that had surgery on his back. Yeah. Oh, wait, listen. So he'd have been the number one pick in the draft had he not had the body broken down.

So what? I just want to know, what did you expect? They know what they get. A man that size. Oh, Joe, that's not a normal man. That's not a 200-pound man. You're talking about a... Think about it now. He's 19, 20.

He's 280, 290, 300 pounds. Name the man that you know that was 300 pounds as a 20 year old got smarter as he got older you know what you're getting you know exactly what you're getting but listen based on what they've invested and when Embiid is healthy and when he's on

hold on go back what you said before you said healthy what was the four letter word that you used when when he's healthy Go back what you said. Before you said healthy, what was the four-letter word that you used? When. When he's healthy. When.

When. Oh. And the Philly fans are saying, bro, you give us 50 games a year. Right. You give us 60 games a year. They play 82. Right. You always nicked. We saw it.

We know what he is. He's an MVP conversation every year. When? It's frustrating. And you know how Philly fans are? Hell, they threw snowballs at Santa Claus. Yeah, they don't play. They don't play. And one thing about it,

them Philly fans do not play. And they'll turn on you quick, man. But you know what? play. And one thing about it, them Philly fans do not play. And they'll turn on you quick, man. But you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if they move Joel or he'll request a trade. You think so? It's too early for that.

It's coming to an end. We're in week three. Nah, it's coming to an end. Well, we'll take him in Miami then. Shit. We'll take him in Miami then. Shit. We'll take him in Miami. We'll move Bam to the four. Put Joel at the five.

You know. What Jimmy gonna run? Jimmy run the two, right? Nah, nah. Jimmy the two or three. He mainly a three. Yeah, there it is. Jimmy at the three. Tyler Hero at the two, right? Nah, nah. Jimmy's a two or three. He mainly a three. Yeah. Jimmy at the three.

Tyler Hero at the two. I don't know who gonna run the point. We're gonna get Dame. So you want Dame, Joyla B, Bam, Jimmy, and Tyler Hero. It is right there. And we coming at the East. This is what Embiid said yesterday when he clashed

with the media over speculation, questioning his toughness and his desire to play. I've broken my face twice. I came back early with the risk of losing my vision. When I see people saying he doesn't want to play, I've done way too much for this city, putting myself at risk for people to be saying

that. I don't think it's bull jive, but I've done too much for this effing city to be treated like this. What you think? I think he missed a point. I think he missed a point I think he missed a point they applaud what you do not who you are

what have you done lately it's always like that it is always gonna be like that short memory what is fan short for fanatic right memory on. What is fan short for? Fanatic. Right.

I like that. I like that. Fans that cheer, they'll also turn around and boo in the same game. Oh yeah, most definitely. I remember them days. It's okay, but you gotta accept you have to accept that. I never got upset when the and I've been booed at home, in mile high. Whoa, they booed you up?

They booed our offense. And guess what? I was right there. It was booed. Yeah, y'all suck. Yeah, we suck. I was in Baltimore. They booed our offense in 2000.

We were terrible. Yeah, y'all was terrible, huh? Yeah, we were some stir fry. I mean, it is what it is. So even when you're playing bad, you're playing like dog poop. You want them to cheer you. No, it don't work like that, bro. Nobody's wired like that.

Even the team that you love the most when they mess up you curse them out it's just the way it is Ochoa but uh NBA is obviously starting an investigation an NBA spokesman said in a statement

we are aware of the reports of an incident in the Sixers locker room this evening and we are commencing with an investigation yeah um locker room this evening and we are commencing with an investigation. Yeah. It's tough. Philly's not an easy place, but if you win a championship, they'll love you for life.

Well, definitely. And one thing about them Philly fans, have you seen how they travel for football games? Yeah. And the people take over stadium like Steelers fans. Mm-hmm. It's a whoo. And that's tough. It's tough.

It's tough when you're injured and like you seem like you can't even catch a break. If it ain't one thing, it's another. If it ain't one thing, it's another, Ochoa. That's what I said. I said it wrong and and you know to compound it like i said this reporter uh ash is telling me it's probably been writing a lot man when is this guy gonna play he's really never healthy he's really never there

when the sixes need him or can count on him when he needs to be there and you know it builds up like damn all you do is write it All you do is write negative stuff. All you do is write hit pieces about me. And now, like I said, I believe it's the culmination of that. And then the mention of his son and his brother that passed away. I think that was the straw that kind of broke the camel's back. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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Time. For the last segment of the day, Q&A. Hey. Don't tell me no. Don't tell me no. I'm back in the house. Yeah. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said,

Unc, congratulations on raising over $100,000 for your alma mater, Savannah State. Proud of you. Yeah. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, congratulations on raising over $100,000 for your alma mater, Savannah State. Proud of you. That's fantastic. Doc, I'm proud too. Like I said, we got rid of over 300 pairs of shoes. Got another couple hundred pairs

still up between Atlanta and here. I thought I had a lot of shoes, but I didn't realize I had that many. Because I didn't know that Shelly and Ash had taken 300 pairs. I thought we had like 150, 200. I kept telling Ash, oh, we got 200. And so I didn't realize until we actually got to Cool Kicks, and they said we had over 300 pairs.

And so I, first of all, want to thank Whatnot that made this happen. Thank you guys, everybody that supported, that bought the shoes. You got a great pair of shoes. Some have some unbelievable stories. Cool kicks for letting us have a place that we could do the event. But like they said, it went for a very worthy cause. Some of those shoes I didn't really want to get rid of. But I think for me, doing this for Savannah state,

I've always wanted to do something like this. And here I am and I get an opportunity to do it now. So I'm extremely happy about that. I was able to be able to pull it off. And I want to thank everybody that purchased the shoes. Like I said, I think you got some really cool, some really cool kicks.

A couple of PEs, the UNC PEs, had a couple of organ duck PEs in there. It had some really cool stuff and so guys, I really, really appreciate that and I know some students at Savannah State is going to greatly, greatly appreciate that. So thank you guys, everybody that participated

and supported. Mr. Blunt FF number seven said congratulations Uncle on $100,000 for Savannah So thank you guys, everybody that participated and supported. Mr. BluntFF7 said, Congratulations, Uncle, on the $100,000 for Savannah State. I saw how happy you were on the live, and you took your shoes off. So I'm happy for you. Yeah, bro. And I kind of like those. Those are custom shoe surgeons.

But they had to go. And so thank you, Cool Kicks, for giving me a pair of shoes, because I was damn sure going to walk out of there with my socks and look at me like I was going Ash you are worse I didn't have on footies Ash or you was going to have to carry me out of there you know

I was going to be that drunk friend that you got to carry out the casino I'd like to see you and Jordan pull that one off. I need something I can sell. What I can sell on now? Cigars. Nah. Come on, man.

I'm talking about like for real. I don't know. Whatever you got. I ain't got shit in this motherfucker. Well, I guess you can't sell nothing. You didn't collect nothing. Sell your old Cincinnati Bengals jersey. Shit, I ain't got shit in this motherfucker. Well, I guess you can't sell nothing. You didn't collect nothing. Sell your old Cincinnati Bengals jersey. Shit, I ain't got none of them.

I ain't got no memorabilia. I'm bad when it comes to that stuff. Jalen, aka Pops, what are your thoughts on Cam Ward and Miami Hurricanes for the 90? Man, they do a great job of coming from behind. I mean, this is what the last couple of weeks

I mean we saw McCall come from behind I think two weeks ago they came from behind this week they came from behind they got explosive offense

I'm not so sure you're going to get some better teams that you're going to be able to do yeah I was they can really say that you keep having

those slow starts now you fall too far behind you're playing against a different team that won't allow you to come back if they do build a team. Correct. Yeah.

Tom the Don said Cam Ward is him. Hurricanes are coming for the chip trophy. You like the Canes, don't you? Yeah, I love the Canes, man. I love the Canes. It's been a long time since they've had this type of winning attitude and aura. The stadium filled up, even though the people are late to the games.

Yeah, what is that with y'all with Miami? Why y'all be doing that? Basketball is like that for the Heat. It's like that. Listen, you're losing. The Heat ain't showing up, you're winning. They'll be there, but they ain't going to get there until the second quarter.

Hurricane game, people will get there maybe in the middle of the first, beginning of the second. It's just the way Miami is. No matter how well you're doing. If you're losing, they ain't showing up. You ain't got to worry about nobody. It's too much to do in Miami.

It's the same thing in LA. First of all, unless you Lakers or the Dodgers. Now, if you Lakers or the Dodgers, they go. Because that's the Lakers or the Dodgers. But if you're not, the Lakers or the Dodgers. And you're losing. They ain't coming. Because it's entirely too much.

You got Sammo, you got Venice Beach, you got rooftops, you got rooftops, you got decks. They ain't effing with you. You know, and you got Malibu. So I'm just, and so Miami,

I'm sure they got, they got beaches in Miami. They got South Beach. Oh yeah. South Beach for a lot of their beach. Man, I ain't finna go, you want me to go inside

to watch somebody lose and I can be outside at the beach yeah it's too much you right boy it's a lot to do it's a lot to do

yeah for sure uh Kemper Norwood Jr. said uh my question is for Ocho would you trade McDonald's for a

Super Bowl ring or a pair of LeBron shoes hell nah absolutely not not trade my McDonald's I can. I can't eat no ring.

I can get me one made, though. Nah. That's a good question. But no, I wouldn't do that. Sajay 17 said, what's up Uncle Ocho? Who was a better running back Earl Campbell or Derrick Henry wow that's a good question

that's a good one how about you switch eras though what happens you put Derrick Henry and Earl Campbell's era and put Earl Campbell in this era man the thing with Earl Earl was in the division with the Steelers

so he had to see the steel curtain twice a year and he had man Earl man y'all think D. Henry was a load Earl was running slap running over breaking dudes thorns

he gonna put his help that's a great question Earl only played like slap running over, breaking dude's thorns? Right through you. He gonna put his help... That's a great question. Earl only played like... Earl might have played seven years, but he only had like five or six. But he was like an MVP, an offensive

player of the year. How many times did Earl win the offensive player of the year? Like three? I think he was an MVP? Earl made a lot of people turn it down. And you know back then in that era, guys were a lot tougher than they are now. Offensive player of the year three times, wasn't he? And MVP?

Yeah, he three times first. yeah you three times shit I don't know yeah yeah but he was he was like a one man record he was he was sensational um He was like a one-man record crew, man. He was sensational. I think I might give a slight nod to Earl.

For real? Because I got an opportunity to see Earl play. So I'm old enough to remember. I remember the Tyler Rose when he came out of Texas, number 20. He won the Heisman Trophy, goes to the Oilers. Right. And he put them on the map right away. Oh, yeah. And there have been some times they probably could have got to the Super Bowl,

but guess what? When you got to see that division with that defense, and he was the only thing that you had to key on. Yeah, I'm excited, Clark, and more how I see what y'all going to key on. Yeah, I'm excited, Clark and Morehouse. See what y'all gonna put down. Come on over, Spell. See what y'all gonna put down, because we're gonna be at the A, the AU Center.

Doing what we do. Yeah. June June. Can Denver beat the Ravens sure they can anything's possible put man on the moon will they you worry about you worry about Bengals don't you worry about we playing the Raiders we finna win

if you have lost more games than you've won why you talking football we playing the Raiders we finna win so we gonna go to If you have lost more games than you've won, why are you talking football? We playing the Raiders. We for the win. So we're going to go to. As a matter of fact, I want you to say oblong-shaped pigskin.

I only want you to say football. Oblong-shaped pigskin. If your team has lost more games than they won. I guarantee. If your team has a winning record, raise your hand. If your team is going to finish with a winning record, raise your hand. If your team is going to finish winning with a winning record, raise your hand. I don't know why you got your hands up. I see what you do.

You got a peace sign up. Peace to that winning record that you thought you was going to have. I bet you our winning record is better than Denver at the end of the season. Hold on. I mean, y'all got the expectation. Y'all got the expectation. Y'all got a Burrowhead. Y'all got Chase and Higgins.

I guarantee you our record is better than y'all at the beginning at the end of the season. I bet we make the playoffs. I bet that. I bet we're a wild card. But not half of them. Baltimore gonna put y'all out

y'all misery next week. You won't bet none. That's Thursday night, right? I gotta be in Vegas for that game. It don't matter where it's at. Thursday night, Friday night, they're gonna beat y'all in any day that ends in the wild. You won't bet none. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Any day that ends in the wild, Ravens got the baby. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Any day to any day. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Hey, that's a jam too. UW1906, I received a nightcap t-shirt today with other one to be delivered later. Today's order had a club

shea shea hoodie included, which I didn't order, but we'll keep it. I can't take anything from you I didn't play, or I need to know how to pay for it. Well, you're an honest person, boy. Appreciate that. Thank you, Dub. We had like 6,000 orders. Unfortunately, we fulfilled

our fulfillment center messed up. 50 orders to keep up with demand. We're switching to a bigger and a better fulfillment center in Houston, Texas. Hey, that 50, that's coming out of Ocho Cut. What?

Those 50 orders that people got, that they didn't order, that's coming out of your cut. Alright, bet. Nah, man. We appreciate it, man. Enjoy it man enjoy it thank you very proudly man we appreciate the support but like you said that last order that we had could go out

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because of some things that he'd been writing about Joel, and he made reference in an article about Joel's son and his younger brother who passed away tragically in a car accident when Joel's first year in the Sixers. Jason Kelsey got into an incident. He was at Penn State Beaver Stadium. He was approached by a college student that asked him a question about his

brother, called his brother a derogatory term. And it looked like Kelsey snatched the phone out of his hand threw the phone down the guy he went down to pick it up got shoved in he asked him who was the derogatory term in which he had referred to Jason DeMar DeRozan

Drake said hey they put DeMar DeRozan jersey up he's climbing up there to take it down himself personally Cowboys Ezekiel Elliott Ocho has been inactivated, has been deactivated, and is going to miss the game due to disciplinary actions. We don't know what those actions were. Some are reporting it was because he was told

he was going to be inactive for the Falcons game. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you again for joining us. We're back tomorrow after Sunday Night Football. Who played? The Chiefs played, right? Chiefs played Tampa. We'll see you tomorrow after the Chiefs-Tampa game,

and we're going to be following that up again Monday after that game so oh Colts-Vikings, Ocho Colts-Vikings tomorrow night, Sunday night and then the Chiefs-Bucks on Monday night so stay tuned, we'll see you after

the Colts-Vikings game we'll see what Joe Flacco can do they moved they benched Anthony Richardson Colts-Vikings game. We'll see what Joe Flacco can do. They moved, they benched Anthony Richardson in favor of Joe Flacco because Shane Steichen says, hey, we're trying to win right now.

And we'll let him get better in the offseason, but we got an opportunity. We see this as an opportunity in this division, and we're going to try to take advantage of it. So thank you for joining us

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