Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Doc Rivers slow start, Jimmy Butler future, Puka Nacua NBA

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and J.R. Smith blast Milwaukie Bucks HC Doc Rivers for not holding his team to higher standards. Later, Unc, Ocho and J.R. discuss Paul Pierce pushing Jimmy Butler to get out of Miami, Los Angeles Rams’ WR Puke Nacua saying he could easily transition from the NFL to NBA and much more!03:13 - Doc Rivers on Bucks slow Start07:30 - Giannis trade rumors09:15 - Jimmy Butler dragged into trade rumors12:58 - Puka thinks he can play in the NBA25:38 - Viral date story between 28 year old woman, 45 year old man01:03:18 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, Doc, it's on the inside of the building. There's none inside the building. We will make the playoffs. I'm not worried about that. That ain't the standard, Doc. You got Giannis. One of the great, Giannis is a two-time

league MVP back-to-back, a defensive player of the year, and a finals MVP. And he's probably been what, JR? Four, five or six times first team all-beam

NBA consecutive. Dave Lillard is a top 75 player. You got two top 75 players, and you think the standard is for you just to make the playoffs? Hmm. Anybody want to tell him that's not the standard? That's not what the expectation is for him, J.R.?

I think he's coaching the Lakers. No, for real, because that's not even... Bro, you got, first of all, you got Chris Middleton. Like, he hurt, but I'm saying he's still on the team. Like, you got a situation to where you got a great core. So what are you talking about just make the playoffs? After winning the chip? It's champion.

No. He got to be careful. Because y'all, oh, y'all think that's all I want to do is just make the playoffs. Okay, bye. Yeah, and he liked that too. Like his mentality, like with respect to a lot of these players, and I don't want to throw the name

around loosely, but like as far as that mentality, he's got that. That Mamba, he got that. 100%. You can't tell him day in and day out he's not going to get better. And he's not all about winning.

And him putting people in position that's going to help him win. If you're not about that, he's going to get you up out of it. Straight like that. So any coach, player, whoever, it's going to be A going to catch hell in Milwaukee, wherever he at, for sure, because it's all about winning

and it's all about getting better every single day. And that's something that you got to respect. I said about Giannis that he got kid fired. And then somebody called me and said, no, Shannon, he did not get Jason Kidd fired. He wanted Jason Kidd to stay. The organization fired Kidd. But Budenholzer

and Adrian Griffin, yeah, he got to sign his name on that one. I feel like he rocked with J. Kidd from a standpoint because J. Kidd taught him the position. You think about it, when he first started pushing the ball and really bringing the ball up, that was J. Kidd.

And he had my guy John Welsh, who was with me in Denver, teaching him the little bulldog, little throw over, shimmy crawl, he get to the lane, Euro step, easy. And it's just like, when you have a person, when you got a coach like Jason Kidd, ain't too many other people who's ever been in the position and played the position to do it better. So I feel like he put him in a position to succeed,

but he also has the mentality to want to win immediately. A lot of coaches are just like, okay, cool. They look at it like, look, I got a little three, four-year gig. I can throw this little extension in here after two, three years. I can max this out to like six, seven, get fired, catch another gig, little assistant gig for a year.

Bro, that's a 30-year plan. For people who look at it like that's a hustle. For a player to come back and to be a coach, he looking at that, there ain't no hustle. We're trying to win. I look at most player coaches like that in the sense of

they don't come from the background of film and everything else and statistics and numbers. They're looking at, oh, we got to win every five out of seven games in order for me to keep my job. No, the player coach, he's trying to win every night. He don't look about tomorrow. Giannis has been mentioned among many trade rumors this week. Swish, do you believe Giannis will retire Buck?

For sure. I think he retires a Milwaukee Buck and I think he gets a statue before he's done. Yeah, I think he retires a Buck, but it'd be probably when he comes back to play there. You're a retired Buck when he comes back because if things continue to go

the way they are with losing, as bad as he wants to win and compete for and contend for another championship, at this rate, uh-uh. He started off losing, though. They're not even close right now. He's going to force his hand, man. They started off losing when he was there. You got to think where he came from, bro.

This man, when I tell you I seen this dude at 18, 19 years old, at 145 soaking wet. Like, Buddy was nasty. To work up to what he's got that whole franchise to be, there's no way you leave that. You got the keys. And I think a lot of players have done it. A lot of

players, D-Wade when he left Miami, even Melo to an extent. When you give up those keys, CP, you give up those keys to the city, it didn't, like, you start moving around and shoving around, shit, you start looking shaky. You start looking like a bad joint when the lights come on, like trying to search and see who bring you home.

That's a tough look. That's a tough look. And then who wants that look? I don't want that on my jacket. Lights come on at the end of the night. I want to be situated already. I don't want to be over there looking at who at the bar. Nah.

We on the way out the door already. Speaking of trade rumors, Jimmy Butler has once again seen his name dragged into multiple rumors as the NBA trade deadline slowly approaches. Paul Pierce chimed in on the matter and said

it's quick to shut down the idea of Butler joining a young team such as the Rockets. According to Pierce, he would much rather see Butler leave Miami in favor of a move to Milwaukee. I like Jimmy Butler on a team that can get over the top. I like Jimmy to Milwaukee. Makes more sense to me.

He can be that missing piece at the age of 35. You need to take the pressure off of Giannis and Dane. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Go ahead, Ocho. That's your team. You like the Bucs. Yeah, that's my team. I mean, Ocho. That's your team. You like the Bucs. Yeah, that's my team. I mean, hold on.

How are we giving up Jimmy and Jimmy going to the Bucs to help out Giannis and Dame? What the hell are we going to get? Chris Middleton. Chris Middleton? Y'all get some draft picks. So, nah, don't put us behind the eight ball. Don't put us behind the eight ball.

Give us something where we can continue to compete in the East. I think Jimmy wants a contract. I don't think Pat Riley because, you know, Jimmy done missed a lot of time. You know, hey, Swiss, you know how Pat is. Pat Harlock. Pat old school. Pat ain't had a lot of free money. Old school.

Especially, you see the thing about Pat too, man. Pat, he move with the times, but not really. He understands, like, bro, the money and inflation is going to go up. It's going to keep going up. But the money I give you, this comes with responsibility now. Yeah. This comes with a lot of responsibility.

And when you sign that deal with Pat, you got to shake that man's hand and look him in the eyes and like, all right, I don't hear nothing else. I got you. Goodfellas, like, I got you. You show him you ain't got him? That's a tough

man. I don't want that. For real. But I don't like Jimmy to the bucks, though. Because Giannis, him and Giannis, I don't like that mesh. Then you got, he going to have to guard the ones. And Dame going to switch off on twos. It puts him in trouble on switching situations. I don't like it.

But Giannis needs shooters. Yeah, and Jimmy's not a knocker. He needs shooters. He don't need to look. Nope. Nope. What's your buddy the ratchet down there in Dade County? The other one. Hero and the other one. Robinson.

No. Duncan Robinson. Give him Duncan Robinson. I ain't nobody that tall. He tall as hell. Yeah, he. I ain't nobody that tall. He tall as hell. Yeah. I like to sound six, six.

I don't like six, five and a quarter. But like, but he like he I'm like, damn, all right. And see,

they had the thing is remember they had a good little thing when they had Grayson Allen. Grayson Allen was a nice

catch and shoot. He played well for all things. Grayson Allen was a nice catch and shoot. He played well for Phoenix. Grayson Allen's a good pickup, man. He's a little dirty. Yeah, he scrappy. He played defense. He did a little dirty stuff when he was in college. Okay, we forgive him for that.

He should have had somebody fire on him. He ain't had nobody. I swear they lucky, man, because they be catching some dirty plays, boy. Back in the day, they used to catch me so bad. If I used to try to dip my elbow on the little screen, it wasn't even dirty. It was just to get over the screen.

Man, when I tell you the Davis boys used to tear me up on these picks. Oh, my God. They lucky. Ocho? Yes, sir. Ramstar Puka Nakua says he could play in the NBA with ease. I think it would be so easy to transition from the NFL to the NBA

in less than three months. Listen, as much as I love Puka, I love my NFL players, especially the league players at the NFL level, I don't think they understand. I know you go to L.A. Fitness. You go to the rec center. Maybe you play with hoopers sometimes. Maybe you play with tall players sometimes.

I don't think they understand the difference and how good the, not even the elite, some of the worst NBA players, how good they are once they're in a structured environment. It's disrespectful for Puka to be able to say, you know what, I can come and transition and things are going to be easy. Some dudes is good, man. Even as good as you may think you are when you're playing against regular people, it's different.

I understand that because I ran with them in New York. What's the name of the gym? Everybody works out in New York where they run 55. Yeah, man. Listen, man,

I thought, I thought, I thought I can get out there cause I'm, I'm quick, you know, I'm fast and you know, I'm twitchy man. I ain't had,

listen, I felt bad. I felt embarrassed cause I had no business out there. None of my shit was working. But let me ask you this, but here's the thing, Ocho, when you said he can play, I don't think he's talking about he gonna go

get a 15. I think he's saying he gets a rebound, sends some picks. I mean, that's it, man. You come off a pick unless you gotta be a real shooter like that, you know, come off a pick or something like that, come off a screen. But you, man, listen, man, then you got them trees down there too. 6'9", 6'10", 6'11".

They got 40-inch birds. You got twos at 6'6", 6'7". Man, you ain't doing nothing with that, man. You ain't doing nothing with that, man. At all. Unless you special. And he don't have that kind of talent like a Ja Morant or a Russell Westbrook where you just finna blow by people, you know, based off skill set

DNA? Nah. He got a nice little game. He was on my team in Celebrity All-Star game. He got a nice little game. No, I ain't say he got no NBA game. Damn. Okay, okay, okay. I'm just making a show now. That's why I said against regular people, he look

good. Yeah. He get your three or four rebounds or something like that. I ain't say anybody go out there and hit like four, five threes. Hey man, it's different. Let me ask y'all this. What you think is the easier transition? Oh, the easier transition is basketball to football. You think so?

Why you say that? Yeah. Because, no, no, no, no. But here's the thing. Normally, guys that transition, they play football. You don't see no football player say, you know what? Nah, Charlie Ward did. Charlie Ward played football and basketball in college.

And you see a lot of guys that transition. Tony Gonzalez played football and basketball. college. And you see a lot of guys that transitioned. Tony Gonzalez played football and basketball. Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers. Ron McCracken. Yeah. But I think the thing is, is that it all depends on the position. A lot of times, you're a tight end, Jimmy Graham, or you being a D lineman.

Mm-hmm. You ain't playing no wide receiver. You ain't playing no DB. Yeah, see, that's my thing. When I told me, dog, when I was getting recruited in high school, they told me, my cousin went to Miami, right? So he ended up playing D end and shit. So I'm like, all right, cool.

He said, man, look, cuz, I ain't gonna lie. The last couple of cats they brought down here, they was our size. They made tight ends. I said, listen, bro, I, I ain't gonna lie. The last couple of cats they brought down here, they was our size. They made tight ends. I said, listen, bro, I holla at y'all. I ain't playing no tight end, dog. I ain't blocking. I ain't doing none of that. I holla at you.

I gotta put on another 45 pounds, 220. Like, nah, dog, I'm not doing that. All right, y'all, you'd be good. They'd put 20 pounds on you. You'd be heavy. I'm straight, man. I ain't blocking nobody. I ain't, you know. Y'all got saw 20 pounds on you. You'd be heavy. I'm straight, man. I ain't blocking nobody. I ain't, uh...

And, uh, y'all got... See, that's the difference for me. See, for football to basketball, intellectually, y'all are way smarter than what y'all seen. Y'all be in these meetings. Y'all know all the plays. Y'all got a book this long.

Bro, I've been on teams with dudes. We got 10 plays. They don't know nothing. Like, bro, we just hooping, bro. We got to know 200, Dale. That's what I'm saying, bro. Y'all got to know 200 plays. I've been on teams like, yo, bro, you good?

Like, because we just ran this play all day long, and you don't know it. Like, come on, dog. Oh, now, we do have some guys. We had a running back. I called it Moj Simple. I got a bunch of can't get rights. I'm telling you right now.

Bro, I said, bro, ain't no way. Ain't no way. We just, we come out of the meeting. We come out of the meeting, Switch. put on shoes, go on the field. You done forgot already. That fast. I say what? Did somebody ever erase your memory on the way out to this mofo?

Ain't no way. We, Ocho, we literally, I'm talking about there was probably a five minute gap from the time we got out of the meetings, put our jerseys on, put cleats on, and went on the field. He done forgot. He done blow everything. He running around

when he's supposed to block. He blocked when he's supposed to scant protect. Yeah. We got some dudes coming out of timeouts, especially in the crunch. Oh, my God. In New York, they used to fine you $1,000. You messed up the play coming out of the timeout?

That's $1,000, dog. Straight up. I said, Lord, have mercy. That's what blew my mind. Like, for real, y'all be in there four or five hours it's like bro what's taking so long fam like you lift weights you got practice you run through your plays but then you watch film for hours nah oh yeah we can't watch film for 30 minutes without cats going to sleep you watch a film for hours hey jr that's what got me to leave i could i just

couldn't do it no more because I had heard the plays. I knew the offense, front was in backwards. I knew what I was supposed to do. I knew what the Z was supposed to do. The X was supposed to do. The Y, I'm playing Tiger in the two-site set. So, obviously, I know why. I know what the Tiger's supposed to do.

I know what John's supposed to do for protection, when he's supposed to lose it, when he's supposed to rip it. The scat, it just got so old, man. I just, when they're supposed to rip it, the scale. It just got so old, man, I just like, I just couldn't do it no more. I still hate meetings to this day. That's funny, because I was talking to OG, man, he's a Hall of

Famer, you know what I'm saying, just got in, and he was talking about why he retired, and one of his reasons was like, man, the locker room just got too young for me. I come from a culture where ain man it's just the locker room just got too young for me like where I come from a culture to where ain't no ain't no phones in the locker room like they come in they on Instagram

they on this and they on that and have times and this and that he's like yo bro where I come from that's a no no like you we put hands on you if you like not if you if you look disinterested in what we got going on i'm like damn it's like that he's like no for real because see i came into the league jr the the cell phone

was just starting to just start to be a thing back then minutes was like five six dollars a minute so there wasn't a whole lot of guys making that kind of money that could have a cell phone and then you know we started to get to like the mid 90s and to like the later end of the 90s then everybody started getting a cell phone but prior to that we had the phones, we had like four community phones

you could just press 9 and you could dial out 10 minute meeting you know we get a break for a meeting you would think somebody was an emergency call they're running i'm like who you talking to man i'm talking to my girl and i hang up bro what do you think she doing where do you think she that you at you at work and you wonder why

but you quick to holler coach don't like me coach messing over me I ain't playing this why your ass ain't playing cause you don't know what the F you supposed to do every time I say every time you ask me what you supposed to do I'm gonna yell out hey coach he asked me what he supposed to do

what he got I'm gonna tell on you I'm gonna tell on you. I would tell on you. I would dive your ass out. Because you sitting in the same meeting I'm sitting in. But your mind's somewhere else. Because it don't hurt you. It hurt us when we got to put your ass in the game.

Now you don't know what to do. And everybody, hey, why don't you tell him? He was in the same meeting I was in. For sure. That shit used to piss me off, dog. Like, bro, you right. You in my spot. And then when you come in in my spot, and you not where you're supposed to be,

and I need a little breather, and they got to, hey, switch. Come back. Bro. In practice. Hey, I get back. So you know, I'm going to get me a blow on you. I'm going to get on me a knee. I'm going to be back there horse jabbing. So I get back. So, you know, I will get me a blow on you. I will get on me a knee. I will be back there horse jabbing.

Sean, get back here. What happened? He don't know. Oh, Lord, have mercy. How do you not know what to do? You got one job. I said, do you moonlight? I mean, you got another job I don't know about, bro?

It's just, and that's the thing, man. The guys, when you realize that a lot of guys just don't care, they like everything about the sport except playing the damn sport. They like the money. They like the girls. They like the attention. They like the clothes. They like the cars.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. a 25 year old woman is going viral explaining her date with a 45 year old okay okay there you go my god 25 45 you know 20 years you know a day okay i can rock with that check this out on show uh and switch a 25 year old woman is going viral explaining her date with a 45-year-old who left $100 on the table and walked out. She told him she wanted to go to a steakhouse. He took her to Eddie V's. Eddie V's in Nashville? There are several Eddie V's,

but I don't want to Nashville. That's neither here nor there. She ordered lamb chops, oysters, and crab fried rice after he only ordered a drink. Total cost of her meal, $159. You could hear her tell him,

this is usually how I order. She paid the rest of the bill after he left $100 and walked out. I already know what Ochoa thinking. Which? I already know. I ain't mad at him. I ain't mad at him. I ain't mad at him.

This is the first time they going out? Yeah, I ain't mad at him, buddy. Yeah, let's leave that. It was the first day. It was the first day. I ain't mad at him. And the last day. For sure, the last.

Man, listen. After real? I was just going to say. I was just going to say that. man listen out the real I was just gonna say I was just gonna say that and most of the time it's fellas out it's dudes out here probably that she's been with before

and it's taken out you know it's all about showing out it's all about showing out on the first date because you know first impressions of everything you gotta reel in

how do you reel a woman in? by doing all the craziness in the beginning the more the crazier you are in the beginning with spoiling and spending a lot of money, the easier it is to get to your end goal. And that's all it comes down to. It's all a goddamn game, man.

But Ocho, if you start... And that game is for women to pull it off shit like this. That's crazy. If I... But Switch, here's the thing. Ocho, let me ask y'all this. If I take somebody on the first or second date and I get a private plane, what I got to do next? Get the space shuttle? Where the hell I go from there?

If I'm getting you lobster, if I'm getting you, hold on. If I'm getting you lamb chops and oysters, now granted, we in different tax brackets. Okay. But I'm saying the average guy. Right. Ain't got different tax brackets. Okay, but I'm saying the average guy ain't got bread like that. Okay, we get you a seafood tower that costs $400, $500. Okay, we get X, Y,

and Z. That's one thing. But I'm saying the seafood tower, they got like four or five lobster tails. They got crab paws. They got scallops. They got oysters. They got shrimp. That sounds like a movie. What was the price? What was the case may be. Huh?

What was the price? What was the price you said it cost? Probably about $350, $400. Man, y'all going to bump y'all goddamn head, man. But that's what I'm saying. But Ocho, but that's what I'm saying on the first date. If you do that on the first date, where do you go from there? Nah. I can't. Nah. You can't go. You ain't nowhere to go. You you do that on the first date, where do you go from there? Nah.

I can't. Nah. You can't go. You ain't nowhere to go. You gotta go to the moon. Shit. That's what I'm saying. Baby, how about we start with something? How about we start with something? You know, I ain't no sushi, so ain't no sense in me going there because I ain't gonna eat it. But can we go to like

some, like American cuisine? Okay. You know, they got burgers or they got some fish. They got some salmon. You know, they got, you know, they got a grouper. They got some type of fish. You know what I'm saying? Dover sole.

How can we start ribs? Can we start there? Let's start going to the state. And you know know the state is market price. Will you start seeing something with market price? Yeah. Nah. You know what it is?

You gotta take it real old school nowadays. You gotta see what they really in for and you gotta take them on a couple picnics. Pack them some Smuckers peanut butter jelly sandwiches and something. Pack them yummy. There you go. Now I'm on crustables. I ain't making no say to crustables.

Yeah, give me a couple of those. A couple of iced teas, little Arnold Palmer's in the joint. Like I said, we really like a couple bags of Skittles or something. See where we at first. Yeah. I'm a simple guy.

Even Swap ain't no swindle. You use me for the ride, I use you for the hide. You want the pay, I use you for a day. I mean, even Swap ain't no swindle. Can't be. I pop the back of the trunk, we sit out back, we chill, we have a good conversation.

If you're trying to be a sponsor, if you're trying to be a partner or you're trying to be a sponsor, if you're trying to be a partner, or you're trying to get sponsored. Hold on. Hold on. I got to you. Hold on. Hold on. I just need... Hey, I can be either one.

I just need to know. I feel you. I got to know. Don't leave it up to me because I'm going to think the other way immediately that's just the way it is that's it I ain't got no problem with you that's what you're trying to do but I'm going to try to do what I'm trying to do too

don't get mad I'm going to put that with a minosa on my phone trying to be a hold on what it was? are you Trying to be a sponsor. Hold on. What it was? Trying to be a sponsor. You trying to be a partner or you trying to be sponsored? That's for real, though.

That's for real. It's a lot of ones looking for sponsors. Yeah. Look, I understand. Look, like I said, I'm a little older now, Ocho. So you know what I'm saying. But see, here's the thing. A kid told me, she said, the reason why older men like younger women,

she said a guy told her, as we get older, ain't nothing wrong with our eyes. What we like when we was in that age group, we still like now. Right. I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no problem. Whatever we decide to do, let's do that. If you say, Sherilyn, this is what it

is, let me decide. I'm going to tell is what it is. Let me decide. I'm going to tell you what it is. Yeah. It's an equal exchange. That's where I think we're getting misconstrued. One outweighs the other. This is a very equal exchange.

Yeah. Even swap can't ever be a swindle. Oh, Joe. Look, if you got grain and I got cow that can produce, okay, Ocho, I need some grain. Okay, I need milk. Okay, even swap.

But now, all of a sudden, you come down there with some bull jive. Oh, no. Hell no. You ain't got no grain, but you want all this milk? Hold up, baby. Hold on, baby. Hold on, baby. Hold on, baby. Hold on, baby. And then you read all of that?

I ain't about no headaches. I ain't about no headaches. I'm going to do right by you. Hey, you don't understand. 98% of the time, you got all the milk, and ain't nobody got no grain. You just the only one providing the motherfucking milk. So I'm the only one bringing something to the party?

98% of the time, yes. How about this, Ocho? Bring something to the picnic besides your appetite. Can you bring plastic for us? Can you bring that? Can you bring something other than your appetite?

Wow, wow. I'm not saying you got to have, you know, you got to have the most elaborate spread, but just bring something. Hey, you go to somebody's house, you can't just show up. Hey, how y'all doing? And you ain't got nothing?

You ain't brought no plates? Bring some ice. Bring some ice. Bring some cups, plates. Hey, how y'all doing? And you ain't got nothing? You ain't brought no plates? You didn't bring plates, cups? Bring some ice. Bring some cups, plates. Hey, bring some cheap ass checks. So that Ocho be like it. Bring something. Yeah, bring my quarter waters.

Hit me. Yeah, bring something. We done got to the point now. We show up to people. It's just because it's our presence. Hey, how y'all doing what y'all got nah we ain't doing nothing we ain't doing nothing

as a matter of fact you know what we doing hey we need some ice I'll holler at you in a minute and so a lot of time they will be showing up with hoo-ha and think that's enough well hold on. You know, sometimes that is all that's enough.

What are they advertising everywhere? What are they advertising everywhere? That's all they got to offer. Hold on. Everybody turn backwards. Everybody turn to the side using the sink to make it, you know, let it sit. That's it. That's all there is to all of this.

Hey, hold on. Wait, hold on. I see your eyes. How do you catch our attention? How do you catch our attention? The most valuable thing you have to offer is what you advertise. With visual. Just like a man.

If a man got money, what's the first thing you advertise? He got what that moolah yeah what you said even exchange how you say it even swap ain't no swindle catching the man

catching the marlin ain't the problem he's getting that sucker to the boat to the man ain't no issue can you land him oh yeah you can land him but he gonna throw you back out to the boat. To the man, ain't no issue. Can you land him? Oh yeah, you can land him, but he gonna throw you back out to the sea. Hey, I'm just gonna keep jumping till I get back to the water.

I ain't gonna stop jumping. Stop, look. Like I said, I'm in a situation now. I mean, when I didn't have a whole lot of money knock on wood I only had one situation with somebody I thought somebody was trying to take advantage of me when it came to eating but now I got some bread okay you know hey

we go to a nice restaurant I mean but you ain't about to get no Kobe you ain't about to find nothing that costs $100 an ounce oh hell no I ain't gonna lie I walked out on the joint one time like that. I was in New York at a steakhouse. She was just ordering it up, ordering it up.

I went straight to the bar. I told the dude, I said, look, man, there's $200 for these two drinks, and I'm just going to slide. He said, okay. Hit me about an hour later. Where you at? What's going on?

I ain't never went back. I'm not doing all of you, ordering all this wine. You don about an hour later. Where you at? What's going on? I ain't never went back. I'm not doing all of you ordering all this wine. You don't even drink wine. All of a sudden, you a zombie. Get your ass out of here. They do that to you, man. They know you got bread, man.

You ain't even acting the same. When I met you, you was a chick from around the way from the Bronx. Now, all of a sudden, you Jenny from the block. Nah, bro. I ain't got time for that. I ain't got time for that. See? See what you done started, Ocho? Oh, I started who?

Who? I don't even put myself in them situations like that. I don't play that shit. No, sir. $200 should be a nice little meal $200 who? American dollar? yeah $200 a nice little meal nah

definitely gratuity and everything on show nah I'm good steak cost $50 I got a steak cost $50 she get two drinks I'm drinking ginger ale more times than not she probably be you know she ain't gonna want drinks. I'm drinking ginger ale. More times than not, she probably be, you know, she ain't gonna want no dessert.

I'm cool. 200 for the thing. Get a leave a tip. Okay, 250. Get a guy $30 to bring my car around. Okay, I'm at 280, $300.

Hey, listen. You have to stand. And did you a Nancy K? Okay, I might go. If I think she a Nancy K, I go to $400. So what you saying, Ocho? What's your cap bracket?

What's your budget? But, you know, I don't eat at those places that you guys are talking about. My places, I mean, I can be honest. We family and those of you that, you know, in the chat, I don't eat at those places that you guys are talking about my places. I mean, I can be honest. We family. And those of you that,

you know, in the chat, especially if you follow me, you know, my stuff is always the same. You know, my Bahama breeze. I got,

I love my long horn. I like brimstone. I have a Cuban spot that I frequent all the time. So the places I like to frequent and go to dinner aren't like that. So if you spend 150, this is the worst. They bring in all sparklers and everything. Yeah. Yeah. matter of fact,

now, you have the thing about date night. Date night, when I... Well, I'm single now. When I wasn't single, and date night, now then, that's when I was introduced to different types of foods that I didn't eat before. And then now we talk about a dinner might be $150, maybe

$200. Outside of that, it was nothing. It's something that I don't do in the norm, so I'm not used to it. Yeah. I think, I think if you get out there,

honestly, I think if you get out there with, you know, she gonna, she gonna get two drinks, at least I'm hoping. Two drinks. Shit, that's $400 for sure.

That's $400. Your. That's $400. Your number's a little too good. Why you boo? Hey, they ain't even drink me that $30. Straight up. Cocktails like $30. Right there, go to the liquor store and get the whole bottle. She done paused that off

before we even got the meal. Now if you get an appetizer, you get one, she get one, boom. That's another appetizer going to be at least somewhere between $20 and $30. So you get two, that's $60, plus her drink, $90, plus my ginger ale, which is $10. That's $100 right there. And we ain't even got to the entree. And I ain't going to lie, man. I don't know if it's the times or the numbers is going up,

but it just seemed like they drink faster than they used to. Those two drinks go a little faster than they used to. But they come back before you know it. It's like, oh, can I have one more? I'll just have one more. You said that three drinks ago. Like, damn, bro. Hey, and lo you that drive, hey, you Ubering

Hey, we good I can't do a sloppy situation, that's the quickest way to get me off your line You come over Go ahead I ain't got no time for that You got a lady You can't, no, no, no, no, no. You got to laugh like a lady now. You got to keep it classy. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, oh, no. Oh, no. Keep it classy now. Put you on a minimum. Put you on two, three drink minimum. For real. Yeah, I think most women can handle two. I think that's...

Now, they got something that, hey, two? Man, I could drink seven of these things. I'm like, yeah, okay, now I'm planning my escape. You're wrestling tonight. I'm playing OG. You in an MMA match. Yeah. Whoa, whoa.

Girl, you more woman than I ever be, man. Drinking seven of these things? Oh, hell no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. No, hell no.

Like I said, I'm like you, JR. Two. Two. You're getting two drinks. We got to get you at a minimum. And I got to make sure I got to see what you're drinking, too. Because they're going to order that $200 tequila and thinking they're doing that Casa Azul

and all that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold up, baby. Hold up. You was Reposado from Casamigos. Don't act like that now. Now all of a sudden you Casa Azul and all that. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.

This ain't that. You know, hey, hey, get a lemon drop. I'm a metropolitan. I mean, no, no, no. This ain't that. You know, hey, hey, get a lemon drop. I'm a metropolitan. I mean, hey, one or two lemon drops or a Cosmo, whatever they be drinking. Oh, man. Sometimes women don't got the way they drinking vodka water.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, okay. Okay, I feel you. I feel you. I don't know what the hell y'all talking about. Man, it, okay. Okay, I feel you. I feel you. I don't know. What the hell y'all talking about? Man, it's like a good stick. That's all.

It's just like a good stick. They just drink it faster. No, but I, hey. That's it. Two drinks, Ocho. They get past, hey, can I get one more? No, babe, no. See, that's why, for real, I go to wine.

Because I'd rather just spend, I'd rather spend $ Nah, babe, nah. See, that's why for real, I go to wine. Like, cause I'd rather just spend, I'd rather spend a hundred, 120 on the wine, get you a nice good bottle of red. You're going to get four glasses. I get two glasses. You get two glasses. We're everybody satisfied.

And it's going to last us throughout the whole dinner. But you sitting here doing drinks and this and that, then you, before you know it, they get that vodka or something up in you. Maybe they, like, not only I'm trying to get you to chill, mellow out.

We're going to go ahead and go to the crib, have a nice little night, all that. I ain't doing that. I ain't good like I used to. See, you got to chill. Yeah. You get, you know, when you get your situation rectified, boom. I don't like the way you're looking at me.

Fix your body language, man. That's what my coach used to tell me. Fix your body language. He let it be like, I don't know. Listen, we family, right? The longer the longer how do you say it the longer you apart

the harder it is to get back no no no i mean no i mean not not even that it's just like it's becoming like uh like man fuck it like the the longer you know when when it's something that's always always constant constant constant you have it all the longer you know when there's something that's always constant constant constant you have it all the time and the longer it's prolonged and it just becomes like man man

I'm just I'm just saying I'm listening to you I hear you man that's tough that's a tough situation man man work a nice year don't you I was about to say let me ask you, man. That's tough. That's a tough situation, man. Man, work a nice year, don't you? I was about to say, let me ask you this. Is it rectifiable? Everything is rectifiable. I can't say that.

Me, personally, I don't have that in me. You don't think everything is rectifiable? Hey, Jay, that's a good question. Let me ask you something. So, you, what isn't rectifiable in your eyes? For me... What can happen if she does this, this, A, B, and C? A, B, or C?

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Or once you cross that line, it's it. That's it. I have and I got burnt. Yeah, I got burnt crazy with my homie too. Like my man

who was in Vegas at the same time, All Star, popped up in the room. I'm here in the room. I'm walking in there and go see my little joint'm here in the room. I'm walking in there, go see my little joint here and there with her. I'm like, oh.

Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. After I already went through some moves, I was like, okay, so you know what? Savage. That's what we all, that's what we do it.

I'm a savage now. That's what I got. That's what you turned, that's what we do it. I'm a savage now. That's what I got. That's what, that's what you turned me into. And I hate to, I hate to use that as like somebody fuel, put that energy in my back. But yeah,

that's what I have. When I seen that and I was young, I was like 20. I got drafted. I was 18. I was 20, like young, going to the league.

So it was like my second, third year. I was like, Oh, okay. This is how they really move. And I was like, all right young boy into the league still. It was like my second, third year. I was like, oh, okay, this is how they really move. And I was like, all right, bet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the game plan. You don't learn the game until you've been in it for a few years with great understanding on how to.

You start saying. And you got to ask her, like, when you go to a situation, you got to ask some of the best. Hey, what's up? What's up with her? Oh, man, blah, blah, blah. What's up with her? Bl her, like, when you go to a situation, you got to ask some of the vets, hey, what's up? What's up with her? Oh, man, blah, blah, blah. What's up with her? Blah, blah, blah.

Because the vets know. And for the most part, they ain't going to, you know, sometimes, you know, you stumble up on one, and they want it, and they're going to try to salt you up. It's a lot of hating-ass vets. Oh, man. I would say she was bad, too. it's a lot of hating ass bits oh man I was saying she was bad too

I stumbled up on her you know what I'm saying I stumbled up on her every once in a while I only can't find a whole chicken in the trash he ain't gonna always find scraps I stumbled up on one Ocho I made

a mistake. I was cool with dude because he played with my brother. So I thought, you know, yeah, man, I've been seeing how I've been, you know. So he gonna try to back-dome me.

Oh. Oh, yeah. Not the front-dome. He went through the back-dome. Back. Oh, yeah. Not the front-door. He went through the back-door. Back-door. Check this out. Nope. He told the girl. He did what he told her.

Oh, you gonna F him, and you ain't gonna give me no hoo-ha. Oh, hell no. Yeah. See, that's the oldest trick in the book, dog. That's for years. That shit still happens dog what years each outfit oh

oh here's the thing to top it off Ocho he probably gonna be on the team next year I swear that was right there I swear next year? I swear, that one right there. I swear. He's going to be out of the league.

He's going to be broke. He's going to be this, that, and third. Damn, champ. Because here's the thing, the thing about not all. There's no situation of all or everything. but a lot of times even if you cool with a chick and y'all leave on somewhat

good terms if somebody come try to on your team come try to holler and say something foul about you they'll let you know she'll tell you every time too even if you in a whole another situation and cool with it and everything

good, they gonna let you know for sure. Oh. She told me. I had to do with the college. She gonna try to, hey, ain't you cool with shop? It ain't like that.

Really, dude? Hey, matter of fact, hey, Jay, and, you know, we, we, this is a great topic. This is barbershop. This is basically how the locker room is

anyway. You ever been with somebody? Have you ever been with somebody in general, based on your experience and y'all were together? And what happened? Do you give them grace if they step out on somebody in in general based on your experience and y'all were together and what happened do you do you do you give them grace if they step out on y'all based on what you talk about because jay you said if trust is if trust is broken and you can't trust them all do you give grace or you like you out the door what you think you out of dough how do you how do y'all operate based on it all man it all for me

you got to think about it when when y'all was playing jay when you was playing the individuals that are trying to talk to the woman you with are those that have money just like you just as much money as you got yeah for sure money so the chances of them actually being loyal it it is i don't want to say it's it's even, because depending on who's asking, depending on who's asking, your girl is single. Yeah, for sure. No, for sure. Hold on. Let me say this

again. Depending on who's asking, even if she's with you, your girl is single. Yeah, for sure. Okay. One thousand percent. But bro, you got to think. Yeah, and I think I think the casual people in the chat probably wouldn't understand. But if you're in that world, if you're in that world,

she gone. Like y'all, you get what I mean. I went to an all-star game. For the most part, 95% of the time, you're absolutely right, Ocho.

Big bank take little bank. That's why you see, that's why you see big corporations gobble up little corporations. I went to an all-star game in Houston, right? That was my second year. My third year was in Vegas. My second year was in Houston. So I go to

Houston. I have my first little quote-unquote video vixen, little chick, little smooth magazine cover, little joint. I got one. I'm calling the homies back. Yeah, I got it. Take it to the game and everything.

I'll take it to the game. My seats wasn't like that. I'm still first year kind of guy. So I'm like 15, 20 rows up. So we chopping it up, kicking it. Halftime comes and I'm about to be right back. Never come back. Halftime come back.'m about to be right back. Never come back.

Halftime come back. She's sitting on the court side with Big Homie. I'm like, oh. At the game, like. Left you mid-game. She's sitting on the court right there with the big big mink. You dead?

Yeah, dead-eyed ass like booty in the cemetery straight up straight up Levy right there standing but let me give you another story so for me or my teammates I had a teammate who's like his man is

his right hand man we all on the same team. Basketball team. Real live pro team. He go, when we go out of town, my man's homeboy taps his man's wife when we on the road.

Yeah, it gets funky, bro. Oh, no. See, I got to have him. No, you know what? You know what? You know what it is, what? No, no, no. He gets funky, dog. But here, you know what it is, Gil? The thing is, is that I'm not married to him. I'm married to her.

Damn. Now, that's my homeboy. Now, see, to me, because I ain't got a whole lot of homeboys. For my homeboy to do that, and I thought I allowed you in my home? I'm going to lump you up, bro. I ain't going to lie. Hold on. It's the disrespect. Hold on, but the disrespect is with the women in that scenario,

not your homeboy. My homeboy? What's your homeboy name? The one that you grew up with in Liberty City? Shoddy. Thank you. Your situation, you out of town,

you trust around your people, they go out there and they smash. Come on, man. I'm done with her, but I got something for him. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a teammate, though. We on the same team. We're. Like, we on the same team.

We're all three of us on the same team. We go on the road. Yeah. Ocho man holla at my lady. He in my house with my lady when we on the road. Oh, oh, now see, that's how, see, now, see, now, now. Oh, yeah, see, now, see, that's ultra different. Now, now you talking about somebody, somebody saying.

Yeah, we need smoke. See, that's ultra different. Now you're talking about somebody saying, hey, now you're talking about somebody letting doves go on Sunday. You gonna kill him off? What you mean? People will kill, boy, that's a crime of passion.

Do you understand? People get off of stuff like that. Boy, you better be careful. Man, what? What I told you about managing expectations, boy. Ocho, you don't manage expectations with a wife.

You committed. There ain't no managing expectations. If you got to manage your expectations with a wife, why did y'all even get married? Why did y'all say those vows? It ain't no managing. If you want to manage expectations with a girlfriend, I get that. Okay, okay. You're right.

A wife? I forgot the wife part. I forgot the wife part. Look, man. Look here. Women that are married, look here, man. Y'all got to know who y'all dealing with because everybody don't handle rejection the same way. But it goes around the side.

So I understand it for the women to snap when they man out here tripping. So it goes both ways. I don't want women to think like, oh, we on one side. No, it goes regardless. If you get caught in that situation, it's the. I ain't coming up. I ain't coming up. I'm not coming up in no man's house.

No, sir. You, Ocho, you go up in no man's house. No, sir. You go up in a man's house. Yeah. You know, a man lived there. You know, that's his wife. Anything that happens to you after that, I'm OK with. Straight up. No, hell yeah.

Straight up. Anything. Anything. The same thing I feel about when you spit on somebody. Oh, yeah. See, you get to control your actions. You don't get to control the consequences of your actions. Right.

So you walk your ass up in that man's house. You know. Black women talking about, I didn't know he was married. That man got a photo of his with a car seat in the back. What the hell you think going on? What posters around this motherfucker? He didn't even come up. They're posters, not pictures, posters. What the hell you think going on? What posters around this motherfucker? Posters, not pictures, posters. What dude?

What non-married dude riding around with a car seat? Hey, it's a dirty game, man. Man, stop it. Ocho, I don't play. That's one thing. It's a dirty game. I joke, you know, me and you joke back and forth and I joke.

I don't joke about nobody's woman. Because I don't have too many situations in my hometown where people have hurt somebody about a woman. Hey, it's all about knowing, no

disrespect to those situations. And this is fellas for you in the chat. All you have to do is pay attention to who you're dealing with and understand who you're dealing with early. Then you'll never get mad. You'll never get mad. You'll be disappointed sometime.

You'll be disappointed. You'll be disappointed because sometimes you grow to love an individual. Yes. Sometimes those red flags, they look green sometimes, depending on who it is, you know?

So you're going to get mad at yourself. But when you understand exactly who you're dealing with, you just, at some point, the tables are going to turn. The tables are going to turn. I don't be playing like that the whole time. My granddad used to say way back in the day,

boy, boy, I want you to always remember the same way you got them. It's the same way you're going to lose them. It always plays out that way. Every time. Always. I don't want that. I don't want that.

I don't want that. I don't want that kind of lose. I don't want to lose them like that. I ain't trying to lose myself like that. Cause I'm going to be behind some bars. I ain't going to lie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you got to be careful. You do. But boy, hey,

boy, that love, boy, hey, boy, that pain. Oh, yeah. It don't play, huh? What? Hey. See, I ain't experienced that kind of hurt like, yo, I can see your face i can see i can see the passion when you when you rose up off that goddamn chair

i don't know joe boy i'm telling you i don't never want to feel that man look i never want to feel that i know I didn't realize how bad it was till my brother and sister called and said, you need me to come out there. My sister never called. Right.

My brother never called. My brother calls, hey, bro, you need me? No, I'm going to be all right. He asked me again I hung the phone up with him he called me back FaceTime that's the only time my brother's ever called me FaceTime

only time I've never talked to my sister FaceTime only one time my brother called me FaceTime he said look at me and tell me you're going to be okay I said what we always say time my brother called me FaceTime. He said, look at me and tell me you're going to be okay. I said, what we always say. Mayor Porter raised three the hard way. I'm good.

He hung the phone up. I gave him my word I was good. I gave my sister my word I was good. In my life, I've lied to a lot of people. I ain't going to tell you I haven people. I ain't never lied to them two mofos. I told them I was good. I had to be good.

How you got over that? It wasn't easy, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. It wasn't easy. Time, yeah. See, and it took you a while to get over it. I ain't gonna lie. It wasn't easy. Time, yeah. See, and it took you a while to get over. I got better at dealing with it. See, the quickest way to get over one woman

is to get on another one. All right, I'll get on that, Ocho. I got to put in another one. But no, in all seriousness, it took a while, Ocho. It was tough. Because when you be with someone for a length of time...

Right. You know what's funny? Even when you be with somebody for a long time, and even if you do get up on another woman, that post-nut clarity, when it sets in, and that temporary satisfaction, it goes away,

that pain seeps right back in. Then reality hits again. Because you know what happens, Ocho? You find yourself questioning yourself. Do I like this person or am I trying to get over that person?

I don't even think it's a real question. I think you know you're trying to get over it. You like, you know what I'm saying? It's almost like he's tricking yourself into like... Yeah. And it's not fair to the other individual. At all. I fell into that situation a few times. It's not fair.

For real. That shit is not fair and it's selfish as hell because we all get trapped up in our own shit and by the end of the day you gotta be man enough to own it and tell them and be like yo listen yeah this is

I got caught up this is not what you thought it was or how fast I'm like listen I'm coming from a situation X Y and Z and it's tough bro I ain't gonna lie man I left my mom, my wife's kids, my ex-wife,

and we got three kids together, man. When I left home, that shit was eating me. Not only for the kids, but I felt like that was my homie. That was my Roley. And when you go through... We've been together for a substantial amount of years. I don't know what I'm talking about, but

when you're growing apart and and you going through different layers and different parts of water phases, your life and you get up onto somebody else. And like, you got to wash that whole stink up off you from a whole nother person. Like that shit is like, and it ain't stink like that, but it's like,

you got like people, people, I've always heard of my grandparents used to say it all the time. Like we better be careful who you lay down with, like them, them souls and spirits upon you. like you got like people people I've always heard my grandparents used to say it all the time like you better be careful who you lay down with like them souls and spirits upon you and that shit is real for me anyway cause like when you laying down with

somebody you intimate with somebody you giving everybody that type of energy it's time to move on you gotta wash all that shit up off you cause you can't carry no new shit upon you to a new situation you be in the worst situation to which you just left yep

now it's time for our last segment of the day guys it's time for Q and A Fela speaks JR is a great addition Fela thank you JR is a great addition. Fela, thank you. Victoria, love the JR Smith. He is a good move.

Shout out to Ocho. Thank you. Tres Kendo, congratulations, JR, on your first son. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Devin Bell said, what's good, Ocho and Swish? Two questions. Do you think the Warriors should trade for Brandon Ingram?

And does he fit with the team? Swish, I go to you first. You are a basketball expert. Should the Warriors trade for B.I.? I think if they can for sure, depending on who they give up. I don't, I like they Wiggins? Trade him.

Trade him. Go get B.I. The only thing that scares me is Wiggins showed up huge when they beat Boston in that finals. He, on defense, defensive side.

They didn't really need him on offense, but defensively, he showed up huge. And I think, I think over the last couple of years, he was dealing with something with his dad.

He had some probably, some home life issues, some family issues, and his dad just recently passed away. So, that's probably been on his mind. He probably some home life issues, some family issues, and his dad just recently passed away. So that's probably been on his mind. He probably is. That's, you know, now that he knows his father is resting comfortably,

I think he'd probably be a better player. But prior to that, everybody always saw the potential, but he was never quite able to figure it out. That was the year. I think he averaged like 19, 20 switch and you're right, he played outstanding defense. I mean, defensively the way Andre

Iguodala coached him up in that finals, it was probably one of the best player-to-player experiences I've seen, like with a vet and a younger player and like showing them and teaching them like where to be in the right spots. And he really excelled for them. I thought he would have a much higher trajectory right now with a couple of

all-stars or something underneath his belt, but obviously going through some personal issues that can easily, you know, deter the route. But I like him, but I think B.I. would be a great fit for that team. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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Aidan Smith said, Lakers are sorry. They need to blow up the roster. They need to blow up the roster, Ojo. Nah, don't blow it up, man. Don't blow it up. Don't blow it up. Hell nah.

Keep two, three. You can move whoever else you need. McGuire said, do y'all think JJ lost the buy-in after he threw LBJ under the bus two times in the interview? Looks like two different teams since the first game onward. How he throw Brown under the bus? I don't know. I didn't hear the interview. Maybe he said something in the post-game interview. interview Ash did he say anything in the post game interview cause you know we came on right after

so I don't know the man had 39, 76 at 40 years old I don't know what else yeah I don't know what they're thinking. I don't know. She's trying to find it. I guess apparently he said something last week.

Ashley's going to try to find that, so hopefully we can get to it before we get off there tonight. Kimber Northwood Jr. say, would you like to see Ja in the dunk contest? Because I would. Well, what made the dunk contest so great, Gil, is that before your best dunkers were some of the best players.

You had Dominique, you had Jordan, you had Dr. J, you had Sean Kim, you know, you had some of the best players were your best dunkers. Now, none of the best players are in the dunk contest.

They're going to get guys outside. They're going to get guys in the G League that's not even in the NBA or guys you've never heard of that aren't in the NBA. So it's a whole different thing now. I think the thing is, guys wanted to participate. You know, Kobe got it, although he was young. But I think now it doesn't have the same pizzazz.

That's why the three-point competition is last now. Because more people show up before the three than to see the dunk contest. And I think people give Bron a lot of flack for when he's not a slam dunk contest dunker. No, he's not a uh he's not a slam dunk contest dunker no he's not

creative that's not his thing yeah he doesn't have the great he doesn't have the creature like he's an in-game dunker like he's in-game tower over you switch hands do all of that and dunk like but as far as like okay i'm gonna throw it the back porch, put it between my legs behind my back 360. Like that's not his steez. So it makes like for me, like it would make sense for a job or an ant man to go get in there. What's the young kid from the kid Jones? He was with Miami.

Barry Jones. That stuff like that makes sense. But like just to have certain guys in it just because they're a superstar, that don't make sense to me. It's like when they started putting big men in the three-point competition, it's just like, bro, come on, man. What are we doing, dog? Yeah.

Yeah. J-Dub from Akron. Hey, guys. Dark day for many of us. Glad y'all came on and brightened up. Ocho 428. Who your running mate be? Can't pick up.

He won't do it. My running mate? What are you talking about? My running mate is... The election. The election. The election. Trump won the election. If I was running for presidency?

Yeah. Shit. If I'm running mate, it'd probably be T.O. T.O. would be my vice president. Oh, that'd be fine. Man, I wish they would. I wish they would let me run for president.

But I... You can't. The American president. You can't. You might as well. American people, this is something that we've always needed. We've needed someone like me in position to give you not just empty promises like everyone

else, but to actually make this place better again. Look, I didn't I didn't I didn't I wasn't leaving in 2016.

I wasn't leaving in 2020. I'm not leaving in 2024. The man won fair and square. Not only did he win electoral college, he won the popular vote. Yeah. So it's just not MAGA Republicans

that voted for him. He pulled the middle. Yeah. He pulled the middle. He grew in every demographic. There's not one demographic in which he did not grow in. So whatever he's saying

is resonating with the people that's listening. Whether you like it or not. He won. Fair and square. And guess what? My eyes open today. I went to work

and I'm going to go to work. I'm not, I don't worry about things I can't control. We have a process, a democratic process in which people can go cast their vote for the candidate they think is best suited for them and their country. He won. Whatever he said, all I look, I just need him to be a man of his word. Whatever he said he's going to do, I need him to do it.

Whatever that is. And I don't want to hear no backlash because he got the Senate, he about to get the House, and he got a majority in the Supreme Court. Ain't nothing to add. So the next three and a half years be on your best behavior he said he's

going to institute stop and frisk he's going to give police immunity he's going to have mass deportation that's what would run across the ticker he said his first day mass deportation over a million the first day oh man y'all heard what he said all I want

the man to do is do what he said. Whatever he promised. He said he's going to lower the taxes for the wealthy. Master port, master port. Whatever the rules are, what you're going to do with abortion bans or whatever you're going to do. Hey, Department of Education, you said it was going to go? Let it go.

I want him to do exactly what he said because that's what you voted for. Don't get mad. Don't get mad. Don't get mad now. I'm talking to him right now. Damn. Who would your brother make me, huh? Man, look here.

I hate people in my damn business now. Can you imagine running for president how many people people people get paid to go in your business and dig ish up imagine that ain't nobody getting paid to be in my business they try to be in my business all the time i don't want no part of no presidency i don't want no part of nothing i just want to be man you got to go out there every day you got to have a press conference you can't go nowhere you got secret go out there every day. You got to have a press conference. You can't go nowhere. You got Secret Service. Before you go in any building, they got to sweep it.

Sweep the whole building. Passports are clear for everybody who in the building days and months before you get there. Bro, I signed down with Madam VP. Bro, do you understand? Everybody. Okay, do you understand? Everybody.

Okay, who are you coming? Social Security number. Blah, blah, blah. They run a complete background check. You got two checkpoints before you get in there. You go through a metal detector. Then they pat you down. They got dogs. I mean, everywhere, all you see is people with earpieces in their ear.

They took Jordan's whole bag apart. They made Jordan take pictures with the cameras. They said, oh, take a picture. All right, take another one. Or do a video to make sure those were. I said, oh, man. It took Jordan 20 minutes to get in there. I started walking back there again. I was like, what the hell?

He's like, hey, every camera he had, they made him take it apart, put it back together, take pictures, take videos. Oh, yeah. It was a process. That was

she's running for the... Can you imagine what it's like if you were to sit down with the president yeah I don't want that I don't want no pardon I got enough hard Earl Caldwell said

who's the best scorer ever MJ, Kobe, KD or someone else KD Kyrie the man that got? KD. Kyrie. The man that got 41,000 points? Kyrie. You got Kyrie as the best scorer?

You said just scoring. Not nothing else. Just scoring. Kyrie. Yeah. Not even close. You like Kyrie over Hart? Not even close. Oh. Not even close. You like Kyrie over Harden? Not even close.

Oh, not even close. James ain't even in the top five. Scoring? Damn. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Kyrie is different. Man, switch back.

Harden had that stretch, man. Yeah, but it's also a stretch. He's shooting 18 to 15 free throws a game. Like, that's different. Like, that's not necessarily efficient buckets. Like, granted, you getting, like, to the free throw line, you just putting points on the board without scoring. But I'm talking about, like, bro, I need you to go, like, 12, 15.

Put the ball in the basket. Like, that type of bucket. I ain't talking about no step back, pull, play, and dance, dance, dance. My boy Kai is nasty, man. Left hand, right hand. Oh, yeah. He can dance with the ball now. Handles is crazy.

To me, he's the best six foot, six one and under finisher that I've ever seen. No, not even close. And just think, he's not an above the rim player. Just imagine if he could play above the rim. Oh my God. Like, bro, I'll tell you. The English? The up and under? Post up.

Spot up. 90% from free throw. Just however you want literally and it don't matter you can be tall, short, fat skinny, slow, fast it don't matter

he get to it and he got to change the pace with it that's so crazy just want to remind you that you had 67 touchdowns That's so crazy. Silas said, hey, Ocho, just want to remind you that you had 67 touchdowns, Ocho had 62. Much love. Future Hall of Famer. Nah. I got my own jacket.

101. You don't know where it is. You ain't got no jacket. Alan Fletcher said, appreciate y'all talking about breakups. Had one in high school, and dog, I couldn't eat for two weeks, but definitely made me a savage. Nah, for real. It'll turn you into a savage. Hey, it'll turn... Nah, you straight,

dog. Don't even worry about it. No, I'm not talking about... I'm damn near 50 them days long gone the savagery is over oh yeah hell yeah you gotta think I live what he talking about I did that

damn near 30 25 years ago man that shit old yeah that's I'm in a different place in life right now where it's so much other shit going on. When that piece of the puzzle ain't working, I feel the void and I feel that space on and I have space, then it just, at some point, it just, it feels itself. It just, it just feels the self is like, you know, and it becomes routine and you become, you become okay. There's only but so much Call of Duty you can play though.

Yeah. I'll be playing Call the booty break my heart that's what I'm calling he got the roster he goes back to the roster nah I ain't gonna spin the block that was my problem I was spinning them drones I was spinning them drones.

I was spinning them drones like, I ain't getting it. Hold up. Let me go back around. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. Oh, man. Thank you, guys, for joining us for another episode of Nightcap Basketball Style. I'm your favorite, Shadow Sharp. He's your favorite, 85, Liberty City's own.

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And that concludes this edition of Nightcap. I'm up. He's Ocho. He's Swish. We're back tomorrow. Ocho and I are back tomorrow after Thursday Night Football, after the Ravens beat up on the Bengals. Swish, we'll see you next week.

Thanks for joining us again. You're ready. I'll see y'all next week, baby. How about it? All right, bro. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986,

Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra Affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.