Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Dolphins HIRE Jeff Hafley as HEAD COACH + Giants have HICCUP with John Harbaugh’s CONTRACT + CJ Stroud NEEDS to IMPROVE + Seahawks Zach Charbonnet has SEASON ENDING injury + Eric Beiniemy BACK as Chiefs OC

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Miami Dolphins hiring Green Bay Packers defensive Coordinator Jeff Hafley as their new head coach, contracts have been held up with... the John Harbaugh and the New York Giants over reporting situation, and there is speculation the Las Vegas Raiders may try and make a trade for Lamar Jackson and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Dolphins have hired Jeff Hafley hired as new head coach13:33 - Contract hold up between Harbaugh and the Giants17:05 - Speculation that Raiders and Ravens are discussing a trade21:35 - Joe Burrow hasnt tweeted in 2 yrs and came back on one24:40 - Demeco Ryan asked to give big picture assessment on CJ Stroud42:20 - Seahawks RB Zach Charbonnet suffers knee injury43:36 - Eric Bieniemy back as oc for the Chiefs46:04- Q & Aaayyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Miami Dolphins have a new head coach on show to Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hathley as the next head coach. Dolphins signed Hapley to a five-year contract. He joins new general manager John Eric Sullivan, whom the Dolphins hired to replace longtime GM Chris Greer this month. Sullivan and Hapley overlap for the past two seasons together in Green Bay. The Dolphins have not won a playoff game in 25 season. The longest such drought in the NFL. the Miami Dolphins last won a playoff game, December 30th, 2000 against the Indianapolis coach.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Hathley was a senior at Siena. Before his two years at the D.C. in Green Bay, Haftly was head coach at Boston College, where he went 22 and 26 in four seasons. Happley is the eighth straight head coach hired by the Dolphins who had no previous NFL head coaching experience. The last dip, Dolphins head coach with previous head coach, with previous head coaching experience
Starting point is 00:00:58 with Dave Wanstatt in 2000. Hey, I remember Dave, huh? I remember Dave. He was the D.C. at Dallas, no championship team for the long year. Hey, but listen, Mr. Happley, boy, he got his work cut off for him, huh? He got his work cut off him.
Starting point is 00:01:14 For one, you have no head coaching experience. Now, you do have experience in general being around the atmosphere and being in coaching. You call plays on the defensive side, and I'm sure that's what he told, Mr. Ross that I'm going to call plays on the defensive side. Go ahead, though. But let's call in plays on the defensive side is not the problem.
Starting point is 00:01:32 What you're going to do on the offense? Who's going to be the quarterback? Who's going to be a leader at the helm? That's the issue right now. You look at the goddamn AFCs. You got Drake May playing all world out his mind. You got Josh Allen. He's not going to where no time soon.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Now, the Jets is probably a team you don't have to worry about as of right now because, hell, they ain't got no goddamn. quarterback either. Nope. So at some point somebody pulling up the real who is going to be is either going to be the dolphins or going to be the Jets until we find a quarterback just let's just say somebody going to be coming in the last place that's pulling up the real huh? Are you sure? Well if you're pulling up the rear that means you in the back. Am I saying something wrong or you don't like the way it sound? Yeah yeah that that just sound you know oh my bad my bad Bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. My bad. I got you. My bad. But you're right. If you don't have a quarterback, I don't give a damn what division you're in. You ain't competing. Competing, don't you?
Starting point is 00:02:51 You're not. He got two years, uh, you hear me? Or happily? Yeah, man, he got two years, boy. maybe maybe not even that you know we signed the five-year deal they just didn't they just sign McDaniel to an extension exactly exactly what's I said what that mean he just signed a five idea what would that mean well these owners want instant gratification they want instant success because
Starting point is 00:03:18 the same way they run their businesses when they want their businesses to work and they want to see they want to see return on investment really fast they just pour my money into it that's not the way the game of football works you can't pour money Well, actually you can pour money into it, but there's a thing called a salary cap which doesn't allow you to do like the Dodgers do. You can't be like the goddamn Los Angeles Dodgers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And if you could, who, the top teams, they'll win every goddamn year. I don't know. You like Malik Willis to the Dolphins? You like it to the... Now we're talking. Now we're talking some business. We're making some sense.
Starting point is 00:03:58 See, I don't have had to get up out my seat, man. Malik, Will us to the dolphins. I saw enough. I saw enough of him when Jordan Love went down with the goddamn Packers. Now, the problem is, you have to understand the support and cast
Starting point is 00:04:14 that was around him as well now. Right. Now, he doesn't have that same support. There is no Watson. Now, we got a Jalen Waddle. Got Waddle. You know, we got Washington. You know, I'm assuming
Starting point is 00:04:24 Darren Waller would be back. But, God, then, he was loaded with receivers over there. Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Malik Willis or Kyle of Murray. Oh, hold on. Let me let me go to my thoughts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Hey, you know what? That's a good one right there. That's a good one. Now you got me stumped right there. Matter of fact, I'm a revert to the goddamn chat. Chat, even if you're not a Dolphin fan, who would you like better as a quarterback? We saw a small sample side of Malik Willis,
Starting point is 00:05:07 obviously in Tennessee. That doesn't count. But you saw what he did when Joe and Love got hurt with the past. He looked goddamn phenomenal. We've seen Kyle Murray. We know what Kylie Murray can do. We've seen a bigger sample size of him, even though things didn't work out in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Now, the dolphins, we are in dire need of someone at the quarterback position. Yes. Disrespect to Quinn Euras or Tua, but I'm just saying. I think Tua is gone. I think you need to start thinking about someone else other than Tua. Right. Because the reports are that the quarterback did not have. have to be married to Tua, which means there's a,
Starting point is 00:05:45 also you don't bench a quarterback the last three games with the anticipate. Now look, this is a different coaching staff. Right. So they might come in and have a different philosophy or a different thought process on Tua. That could be the case. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I don't even. I don't think so. I'm just trying to look at it from. Yeah. I know, I understand you're trying to be gracious, but when a new coach of staff comes in, they're going to want to want a fresh start. They're going to want their guys.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah, they're going to want to want. their guy um hey somebody making fun of what i'm wearing y'all so rude why y'all being so mean to me like i got feelings yeah i'm wearing i'm wearing i'm wearing a sporting lisbon for those who you know watch soccer sporting lisman jacket and i got some some cheetah pants i bought off shine and you know are you shop on shine uh uh i don't no i don't you like my you like my pants I like them on you. I mean, that's not me. I couldn't work something like that.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh, okay. They were $20 on Sheen or Shine. I don't even know how to pronounce it. I don't know if they could give them. They couldn't get them to me, but. No. You know it's 40 degrees in Miami, right? I believe it.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I don't know what the hell was going on today. I didn't have this on all day. It's cold as hell outside. Yeah. Shine. No, you know, it is, it is Shine. S-H-E-I-N. It's like, it's like an affordable site.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like, like, um, like, um, not forever 21. What's the one for men? T.moo? No, not T, no, not T, M. The other one, like they have a, they have a man's line and a woman's line. Damn. H&M? No, no, you know, I, no.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Ross, Marshals? No, they own, like, fashion over. Fashion over, yeah, yeah. So I, I think Shine is like in, in that realm of, like, you can good, good pieces. If you know how to dress, if you know how to dress, it's not about buying expenses. and just knowing how to put stuff together to make it look like it costs money. Yeah, but I mean, me, I mean, I, uh, Hey, want me get you a petty's?
Starting point is 00:07:52 No. Mm-mm. No 57 year old should be in no leopard print. Unless you, Mick Jagger. Unk, you stylish, man. You're an icon. Mick Jagger. It's the only one that should be wearing leopard print.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Nah, a print print is a part of print, print in fashion in general. It's not for me. It's an expression of yourself. I choose to express myself in other ways. Okay. I got you. I don't got no problem with a man or a young man or wearing leopard print to each his own. That's just not for me.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, I look good at it, though. You know, I can kind of get a... Maybe a jacket. Could I wear a jacket? Yeah, I wear a jacket. I ain't wearing no pants. I got you. My bad.
Starting point is 00:08:41 My bad. I mean, I just... Oh, now they calling me Ashy, man. Damn. What would I have on lotion in the house? Who wears lotion in the house? I ain't got nobody to impress. No.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But that's the new thing, man. I mean, look, I didn't know. I didn't know that so many men watch what other men wear. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be on that heavy. I'm like, well, damn. Yeah, it'd be on that heavy. If I was trying to impress you,
Starting point is 00:09:13 you would have a legitimate case, but I buy clothes for me. Right. Same. I buy what I like. Yeah. Yeah. And you really have to be a wolf, um,
Starting point is 00:09:26 really not to care what nobody else think when most of everybody else is, you know, they sheep. Did you see my picture I tweeted today? Yeah, with the kids. With the kids asleep. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I like that. I like that pitching in the back, boy. Oh, my, uh, yeah. I had an ex that brought me that for my birthday. Boy, that was nice, boy. That's one of the nicest birthday gift
Starting point is 00:09:46 I've ever received from anybody. Yeah. That ain't, that ain't got nothing to do with money either. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had no, I had no idea. I'm like, what the hell is this, man? When I saw that.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. I bet you was crying. I almost teared up. I did. Yeah, that's a good gift there, boy. Because that's what we had, we had buried my grandma in that pink hat and everything. So.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Man, it was, yeah, my boys were sleep. When I come home, Mocho, they, that's it. Except Thanos, he was running. He was. He'd be all over the place? Yeah. But that was, that was two weeks ago, like last week when I came home. And then, man, who took that picture?
Starting point is 00:10:33 That must have been Michelle. That must have been, like, damn. Everybody else take a picture. Everybody take a picture and don't nobody get asked. When Jay-Z and Beyonce take a picture, ain't nobody else. Who took that picture? home take a picture and who took that picture? I'm like what day?
Starting point is 00:10:50 You know, they'd be wanting to know, man. You know, they'd be wanting to know. They, you know, they want to know, you know. Hey, it might have been cookie for all y'all know. Who was cookie, huh? Don't worry about it. Oh, from the old stories, the old story? Yeah, it was, it was not cookie.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You found him? No, I haven't seen cookie in 30 years. You might want to be, hey. I don't. You know, and you won't preheat that oven, huh? You know what happened when you put a cookie in the oven and you preheated, huh? I don't eat cookies. Cookie or cookies.
Starting point is 00:11:23 God damn. I just want to make sure I want to throw that out there because you're a, I know that you didn't say nothing about no cookie singular. Right. You said cookies, but you might eat cookie. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know where you're going. I know you. No, I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, you will. You're real slick with your mind. Hey, I wouldn't even think it like that, huh? Yeah, you were. I wasn't thinking like that. You were. I promise you I would. No, I got to stay.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I got to stay on mine because I already know. You always on some bull, John. You always. Run that back one more time. Run that back one more time. What you say that? No. Nope.
Starting point is 00:12:04 The updated NFL coaching landscape, Titans, Robert Salah, Giants, John Harbaugh, Falcons, Kevin Stefansky, Dolphins, Jeff Hatley. the bills, Steelers, Ravens, Browns, Cardinals,
Starting point is 00:12:17 Raiders. Now, there was 10 openings. Now there are only six left. And the best of the six left is the bills, on? Absolutely. The best of the best left is the coaches should be scrambling and fighting for that job.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You think the bill's better than the Ravens? Oh. Okay. That's 50-50. That's 50-50. It's only 50-50 simply because of the quarterback's situation. Okay. The quarterback gives you your best chance to win
Starting point is 00:12:47 right now. Yes. Now it's up to you as a coach that filling all the missing pieces to make your team competitive. How can we get the Baltimore Ravens back to playing like a raven? Running back, James Cook, Derek Henry. Yeah. James Cook led the league in rushing. Derrick Henry
Starting point is 00:13:09 second. Yeah. The wire receiver position might go to Baltimore because of Zay Flowers is better than any wire receiver that they have but the tight end position What about Shakir? You don't like Shakir?
Starting point is 00:13:24 You think Shakir better than Zay? No, I mean, not better, but they're very similar in style and what they do. I think Zay is a little bit. This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes,
Starting point is 00:13:37 rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nalm. from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese. What's a rap? It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did his phone Nick's at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk about. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, it's crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation? He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. More. Zay spends a little bit more time outside.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Shakira mainly is mainly a slot receipt. Yeah. The tight ends. You got Knox Kincaid versus likely is gone. He's gone. You think so? He's gone. Because they just gave Andrews three years, 40 million dollars.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He gone. Damn. At least, at least Andrew. I think the offensive line, I might get a slight offensive line to Buffalo. Buffalo, what do you mean? Slice. Because as long as they got that right guard there. What's the name, huh?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Velaile. Filet. Phish fillet. Hey. Hey, boy. Somebody put a compilation to him and like just hit nobody. Man, for like a, there's a video for about
Starting point is 00:15:23 a minute, two minutes long. Yeah. Man, I was in, no, I was, talk about I was in tears. Oh, man, that joke was that. He was, hey, blocking nobody. I was in tears rolling, man. That joke was sticking head out here. And both guys ran by it.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I'm like, bro, what are you doing? What is that? Who's that up there? What he got? According to Ian O'Connor, the contract holdup between John Harbaugh and the Giants sent around reporting structure. Harbaugh needed in writing that he would report directly to owner John Mara, not GM, Joe Shine. A Harbaugh reported directly to ownership in Baltimore, but that has not been the structure with the Giants. Shone recused himself from negotiations over the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Look, he had that set up in Baltimore. Right. Once it's hard, Ocho, once you've been in a position, and this is what you're used to for you to go any other way. And that's why I think it'll be hard for Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick had total autonomy. The only person he reported to was Mr. Kraft. And Mr. Kraft, for the most part, there's only one decision that Mr.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Kraft says, okay, and that was to keep Brady and get rid of Garoppolo. other than that, he sided with Coach Belichick on everything. Even when the rubber needed to meet the road at the end of 20 years, he said, okay, Billy. Damn. So I think it would be very hard. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it'll be hard that you got to report to a general manager.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You're not in charge of 53. You're not in charge of the draft. You're not in charge of your agency. Oh, should that be extremely? When you've had that kind of control for 20 years? Yeah. Listen, I told you. I told you, see, now, now that this is going on and they're,
Starting point is 00:17:22 they're, they're having some tug of war in the language that's in the contract. Now, what's the chance of him pulling out of that and going over to Buffalo? But I think they got it done now. I said, I think that was, that was a problem. But I think, I think that language did get into the contract. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Sean, he recused himself. So I think the contract's done now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Okay. But you see what he did, Ocho? Mm-hmm. Get it in writing. I ain't taking your word for nothing because you see, oh yeah, that'll be no problem. And then all of a sudden, no, you got to go through it. No, see?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Get it in writing. Yeah, they'll play with you now. Yeah. There's been speculation that the Ravens and the Raiders and Raiders could end up discussing a trade that would send Lamar Jackson to Las Vegas. There's a feeling out there that the Raiders are going to make a play for Lamar. That's a big splash.
Starting point is 00:18:20 If the Raiders, you'd give up all these pieces for Lamar over drafting Mendoza with the first overall pick. Man, stop playing with my dog like that, man. This makes no sense to me. Whoever even came up with that report, talking about making a splash and making a play for Lamar, man, stop playing, man. Stop playing. The quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders will be Fernando Mendoza with the number one overall pick.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Okay? Fernando Mendoza's receiver on the right, of the left, his ex will probably be George W.B. Pickens. Okay? And that's pretty much it. They're going to revamp everything over there in Las Vegas and that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They definitely need to do something, don't you? I don't know what all they're going to do, but they need to do something. Yeah. Absolutely. The quarterback could definitely help, but I still think there's just so many pieces away, man. They don't really have no wide receivers. Now, if they get George Pickens,
Starting point is 00:19:21 I mean, you got Brock Bowers. But when I say wide receivers, we don't, Brock Bowers, when you list Brock Bowers, they have T.E. by the end of his name. Right. When you mention all the, McBride, they have T.E. So when we say wire receivers,
Starting point is 00:19:35 we're not talking about the tight end. We're talking about the guys that are wide receivers. They don't have any. Their best one, they traded to Jacksonville, I think, for a third or a fourth round pick. So they got a pick coming back. Right. I don't know if they have any competition.
Starting point is 00:19:51 compensatory picks. But with that being said, they're still a long ways away. Yeah. They're in the back. They're in the back of the class for a minute. Because everybody got substantial quarterbacks. You got Mahomes in that division.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You got Herbert in that division. And you got Bo Nix in that division. Woo. Now, maybe, maybe. I don't think Max Crowth would be upset if you were to trade him. It all depends on where you're going to trade him. Yeah. and what you can get for him.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Oh, you go get a first round pick for it. Yeah, what you can get for him and help you build that team and get some pieces. Because, I mean, with him, you lost, so without him you can lose too. So why not? While he's extremely valuable, if you trade him, get what you can. Yeah. Get what you can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I can't wait to see pickings in that goddamn black and silver, boy. Huh? Hey, call it, unc, call it, call it, call it. What you want? Blue 17, Blue 17. See it. Uh-huh. Hey, Unk.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Well, I'm still quick as hell, boy. Yeah, I see that. God, damn. And my knees still hurt. Ooh, I feel like I can play, boy. I could play. I can, man. Nah, I'm talking about, hey, Unk, right now.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Right now, at 58, Unk, I'm telling you I can give you four quarters. Third downs. Yeah. I change for a dollar. Only four quarter, you do it. Nah, no, no, no. I'm telling you, put me out, put me out, get, put, now you know how competitive I am.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yes. Man, man, I wish they, we all still competitive in our very own minds. Yeah, give me, give me opportunity to get out on that field right now. Man, I've saucy little young dudes up, man. They don't understand. They, um, this different here, boy. I'm built.
Starting point is 00:22:01 First time you go full out, you're going to pull a half string. I'll tell your half strength, smooth out the bone. I play soccer every weekend full out. Ocho, you ain't running no full speed to try to get no balls. You have to, it's 11B 11, huh? This is not the little field. I don't care nothing about that. I'm ready, boy.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Stay out the field. Hey, you talk about, man, too about poor or something. Look, hey, my knee's good, right? Man, you to hear, poocho. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more.
Starting point is 00:22:42 What's up, man? This is your boy Nav Green from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:22:59 They're cheese. Oh, it's a rap. It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy, Matthew Stafford. Where did he have both of next? he ain't too far behind
Starting point is 00:23:13 He did all this talk What Matthew Stafford is doing Statistically, bro, is crazy Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan But Matthew Staffer got Better weapon Caleb Williams
Starting point is 00:23:23 Hey, he should be in that conversation In what conversation He should be in it Listen to Broken Play With Nav Green From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app
Starting point is 00:23:32 Apple Podcast or whatever You get your podcast Hey, I'm flexible too Look at that joke's stiffing In offense post Huh? That joke is stupid of the fist pole.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Oh, man, look at it. Now, you better stay on the sideline with me, man. Stay on the sideline would be. Ocho, Joe Burrow hasn't treated in two years. This is what he treated today. The amount of people that don't understand what the catch is in the rule book flabbergats me, and it's not the official.
Starting point is 00:24:03 The two plays yesterday were not difficult cause. They got them both right. Yeah, listen, you was right. You was right. They talk about the Hutchinson play. The Hutchinson play. Do y'all realize that he caught the ball, took off running, his knee touch, and then Gonzales popped it out? As opposed to a guy that just drops to the ground.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And in the process, J. Mack, I mean, y'all thought, do those plays look the same to you? One guy was a runner, his knee goes down. Hutch was a runner. Which game, which game was these tweets referring to, huh? He's talking about the play in Denver. in Houston. Remember when Gonzales popped it out of Hutch? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Hutch ran, Ocho. Yeah. He was running. Mm-hmm. And in the process of getting ready to go down, his knee hits. That's different than you catching the ball and going straight down.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. Because the question is, let me ask you this. If he catches that ball and he goes straight down and it pops out, what is it? Bumbo. It's incomplete. Incplete. Or you're incomplete.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Unless you make a football move. You got to make it a whole move. You keep saying, well, what about likely? Likely is in the end zone. In order for it to be ruled a catch, they got three steps. If you go look before that first step hit down, the guy ripped it out. Just go look. You can see they slowed it down.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Wasn't that a Sunday night game? Yes, no Sunday night game. You could see. He goes one, two, and the third is about the Pittsburgh guy pulled it out. As a matter of thinking, it was JP2. He pulled it out. Yeah. They're totally different plays.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Brandon Cooks didn't take it. He goes straight down. And I knew what happened. He showed him the ball, Ocho. He said he showed me the ball. Yeah, once he turned around. And I know if he showed me the ball, he got to bring it down.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Ain't no way he's going to catch hold it up here. So in the process of bringing it down, trying to put it to his body. Took it right out of there. You go see his hand, this is the ball, Ocho. His hands are right there. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Bring it to me. He brought it right to him. Devonte ran. And if he hit, we're moving on. Your team lost. If you used for Buffalo, your team lost.
Starting point is 00:26:45 If used for Chicago, your team lost. Now, go argue with you. So go, go argue in an echo chamber. And who? Echo chamber. Today, D'Amico Rhymes
Starting point is 00:26:58 was asked to provide a big picture assessment of C.J. Strauss 's play during the 2025 season. I'm not going to let bad plays there in that game against the Patriots dictate to me who CJ is. I know who CJ is. I know what he's capable of doing. We just got to keep looking to get better. No one feels worse about the situation than CJ.
Starting point is 00:27:21 He feels bad for the team. He feels like he let the team down. So where does Rhines want to see CJ improve for 2026? I talked to CJ today and my message is the same. Right now it's just about him flushing out this one. It's going to get a lot of negative talk, a lot of attention on him. He can't listen to it all. He just has to get back to work in the offseason going back to the basics.
Starting point is 00:27:47 The fundamentals of playing the quarterback position and playing it really well, understanding how we need to play the game to win the game. He understands that already. I just told him, don't listen to anything. Put your phone away. Don't listen to anything because it's going to be a lot of negativity. Talk out there about you. Specifically, I just told him get away, clear his mind,
Starting point is 00:28:12 because right now at this moment, I know there's going to be a lot of attention on him, a lot of negative media, and today a lot of questions about him. Oh, Joe, all he has to do. And with that defense, you don't need to be. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrell, they don't have those defenses.
Starting point is 00:28:37 You need to be Trent Dilfer. You need to be Brad Johnson. You need to be Jim McMahon. That's good enough with that defense. That pick six, I still don't know what he was trying to do on that pick six. Do you know what he was trying to do? No, sir, I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And, you know, for C.D. Stroud, he has no reason to be down on himself. Now for us, for us, for myself and you, for myself and you, we were critical of him because of his play. Yes. It was poor. It was poor. He played like Mr. Hanky off South Park in that game. There was no reason to have that many turnovers. You're not even giving your team a chance to even win the game.
Starting point is 00:29:18 As great as that defense is, you put the defense in harm's way causing them to play in overdrive in a sense. And you don't have Nico Collins. So you need to be. at your best as often as you can. Most of the time when it comes to the playoff, the team that makes at least mistakes. Win. Winns the game.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And you made multiple of those mistakes and still almost had an opportunity to keep your team in the game and have a chance to win it. Obviously, you didn't win it. But for C. Day Stroud, why I said he doesn't need to keep his head down is because I want you to understand
Starting point is 00:29:52 where the Houston, Texas were, before you got there. And how because of you, once you did get there, how things turned around. how things change as far as the record and concern. A C.J. Stroud, they was bad before you got there, boy. You are the answer. You are the future. You just have to be better in the right moments. Now as a rookie in your third year, there are opportunities and there are situations that you've been in.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That now that you've been in them already, you can't make those mistakes again. That's how you get better. I can name five quarterbacks that could have won that game yesterday. And I bet the five you name of some of the best of the game. And I ain't talking about Josh Allen. I'm not talking about Lamar Jackson. I'm talking about my homes. I'm not talking about Malik Willis wins that game yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:34 All they had to do not turn the ball over. Yeah. All he had to do is not turn the ball over. Okay, Ocho, you got one. Just don't turn it over four times. Right. Because guess what? How many times did your defense bailed you out by taking the ball right back?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Back back. Yeah, back again, yeah. And you would have thought, say, you know what, man, damn, I could have, I mean, if Pittsburgh had any resemblance of an offense, but a pick six, a scoop and score. We got 14 points. Right. We only score 30.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So really, officially, we only score six. And I'm looking, I'm like, bro, do you understand? Because I think sometimes, or Joe, sometimes is that when you play with somebody,
Starting point is 00:31:20 and it's hard because you see with Jane Daniels and you see Caleb Williams and you see all these quarterbacks that's very similar to your age and you see them. making these spectacular plays, but they don't have your defense. It's required of them to make spectacular plays
Starting point is 00:31:37 or they don't win. You can be mundane. You can be pedestrian with that defense. You still have a chance. Man, with Hunter and Anderson, and they're good at 2O2O and, and, and, and, and, and, and, uh, as year. And you look at Stingling,
Starting point is 00:31:55 Lazzar and Petrie. Bro. Right. You got Hunter, you got rankings, you got settled, you got a, uh, uh, uh, uh, Mario Edwards Jr. Great. But you're loaded. Yeah. Just don't put the ball in harm's way.
Starting point is 00:32:11 We're good. He's going to learn from it. You're going to learn from it. You're going to learn from it. You'll get this taste at your mouth. You need this to continue to growth, you know, and I'm hoping, you know. You take the time you need, take your time off, reset mentally, get away from the game of football, right. now disconnect from it and come back and ready to work but we're we in January on yes January
Starting point is 00:32:38 February yeah take about six weeks off yeah about March when March hit slowly gradually get yourself back in and stay off do not you don't need to do any podcast anybody ask you about anything so I don't need I don't want to talk you don't got nothing to say you can't you can't express yourself on no what do you really want to express yourself after this performance yeah you i want to talk about how bad i play i want to face the music no you ain't gonna talk about he'll talk about that i want i want to face the music i played bad i let my teammates down i let myself down i am my own biggest critic no matter what anyone else has said about me on on any platform i played it i'm gonna fix the situation and i'm here to tell
Starting point is 00:33:21 y'all don't tell us about it show us okay i'm from missu you know i was born in missouri ocho for real the show me state show me Oh, oh, oh, you got me, you got me. Hey, don't be, don't talk about it, be about it. Okay, I got you. I got you. Let me ask you a question. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Mahomes' second year, MVP, did he go in to anybody to tell you how great he was? No. You ever hear Manning, you ever hear Brady? They downplay it. Now, behind closed doors, if CJ wants to boot to do his own horn behind closed doors, have at it. But as a quarterback? Yeah, let's, because this game will humble your ass quick. Oh, yeah, it will, it will.
Starting point is 00:34:01 What I don't want him to do, I don't want him to lose his confidence, though. I don't want to, I want him to have that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I'm him. I still want him to have that, but I think he went a little, little wrong by saying it. Yeah, you know, as a quarterback, you can't do that. Now, receivers, I get it, you know, DBs, I get it. You know, we, we can do that. But, you know, the quarterback position is, it's a little different. You have to carry yourself a certain way.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You've got to talk a certain way. You got to be politically correct, which I don't want. like is frowned upon to be anything but that especially with the face of a franchise so listen listen it growing pains growing pace he i think he's going to be right because he's he's a tremendous talent he's a tremendous yeah you know no no doubt yeah they they and he will get things fixed so he's better for the texans i hope so because i i hate that you wasted such a historic defense this year. They could fly around.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Man, this was good. This is old-fashioned defense, defense that I'm used to seeing. Guys can pressure your quarterback. They're physical. They do a great job of tackling. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But you can't turn that ball over. No. You can't overcome those mistakes. Look at the teams this weekend, Ocho, that lost a turnover battle. All of them are going on. All of them lost, huh? All of them.
Starting point is 00:35:34 That's not an accident. It's not. No. Football playoff has always been about who can take it away and who can take care of it. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. I think we had what? Man, I think in the post season, I think we had one turnover in Baltimore in 2000.
Starting point is 00:35:57 That's it? Through a pick in Indy. Excuse me, against the Raiders. We didn't turn it over against Denver. We didn't turn it over against Tennessee. had one turnover, but we took it away a bunch. Damn.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So. Hey, you know, are you noticed something tonight? What's that? Notice my camera went off. Yeah, what happened? And the quality is good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It got so many damn settings, buttons on it. Okay. Someone told me to put it on auto. Then I went to the menu and went to something, I went to streaming output, and I put it on U.S. USB? Yes. And they told me to do something else with the settings and not is working perfectly.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Well, I'm glad, Ocho. I'm glad you figured out. I'm happy. I'm happy. I don't know why these cameras come with all these goddamn buttons anyway. I don't know why they come with them either, Ocho, but I'm glad. Hey, on and off. That's all I need. And they come with like 37,000 buttons. And in the menu, you go on the menu and it's like three different layers of, man, what is a, man? Come on, man. I just want to turn my camera on. on a film man that's it well I sure hope it stay like this that's really nice I got got good quality I think you can see me in 4k too boy yeah you you I need a little
Starting point is 00:37:20 haircut but I look good I sent you that thing about that guy got got that got his hair tattooed in his head who got a tattoo in the head got tattooed I said yeah oh this right here for oh oh yeah yeah yeah hold on hey un I think for the live show right yeah when I do the live show I'm a thing I'm gonna come out there with a new look You're going there with that unit? Yeah, I think I'm going to get the unit. Like, you know. Oh, I thought you're going to get the beard unit.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Okay, I'm going to get the beer unit so we can match. Yeah. I'm going to get the beer unit. Or you have gray in it too? No, I ain't going to do the grade because I ain't, I ain't, I ain't going to do the grade. I ain't, I don't, I don't look good with that. I don't think I look good with that salt and pepper, huh? Yeah, but I mean, Ocho, you do realize this is a part of Asian unless you
Starting point is 00:38:06 are Pakistani or Indian. Oh, you know, I got a little Cherokee in me. I got a little Cherokee in me. Go over Cherokee? No, no, I got a little Cherokee in me. You know, I did my DNA, my ancestry treat. Boy, you ain't got nothing in you. Yeah, hey, um.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, oh yeah, I guess, so you were the chief, huh? You was a chief, huh? No, no, no, my uncle, my uncle, my uncle Tutu was a Native American. He was with the Cherokee tribe. Oh. Yeah, I tell you no lie. So he was a Cherokee, not a Chickasaw, not a chalk tall.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Nah, no, he was a Cherokee. with Cherokee. Listen, that's what the ancestry tree told me. Okay. Now, if it's a, if it's a lie, the ancestry, they, they told it, not me. That's, that's, you know, if I let my head grow, that's what you. So if you, so you might, so you might be, like, be a chief or something, huh? I don't, I don't think I'm no chief.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I'm not sure. I'm not sure what his ranking was, you know, when he had his time, you know, but I don't think I would even know chief. So I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I guess you, you, you, you, you, you Puerto Rico. You got some Puerto Rican in you? Nah, I ain't got no Puerto Rican in me. I got a little Haitian, though.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I got a little Haitian. So, you know, I'm like Cherokee, Haitian. And that's a hell of a combo. I don't know how that all got there. Hey, I, listen, that, that, you need to do your ancestry tree, aunt, so you can see where you from. And what all you got?
Starting point is 00:39:39 I'm from Ninjaville. That's what I'm from. Yeah. They say what they say I was mixed with end and moen. Okay, okay, okay. This man, this man told me he is some Cherokee. No, I'm only 5%, huh? It's really not that much.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And you know, you know how I know it's probably right because when I let my hair grow, the texture of my hair is soft and they curl up. That's why, that's one of the reasons why I keep it cut ball because of the humidity in Miami. It shit mess me up. I tell you no laugh That's what I try to tell it They weren't no Cherokee The Cherokee was not in that
Starting point is 00:40:24 In that area Right So they was They was over here by the Everglades Seminoleys. Seminole. Yeah, Cherokee Seminoleys They were in the Everglades.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Cherokee and Siminoles Not the same thing. I know they're not the same thing They used to fight all the time though. I think the Cherokee What area was the Cherokee in? Like if you said, the Shawnee or the Seminole, the Chickasaw, Chalkton, something like that, I could, I probably could have got with you, the Lumby.
Starting point is 00:40:56 No, the Cherokees in the goddamn, um, in the Seminole, they used to fight all the time in Everglades. Oh, Cho, you'll be, yeah, they wasn't. No, they, they was out here, I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you about my great, great, great uncle, uncle cousin. If you're from Georgia, like Kentucky, like a little bit of Alabama or something, like that. But wasn't it the Semino? Was it the Seminole? Down in Florida? Yeah, the Seminole,
Starting point is 00:41:39 the Seminole down here. Because I think the Chonk Tall, the Chickasaw was like, Oakland started moving west. The Lumby was like in North Carolina. You know, they was everywhere, you know, they tried to erase our history now. No, they be trying to play
Starting point is 00:41:57 with our history now. Listen here, Chief Steakfoot. You don't got no history down there. Hey. Hey, you know, no, you know, You know he's called me, right? Chief Steakfoot. Nah, nah, I was a little blackfoot. That was my name, a little black foot.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, because when I was little, my feet was like real, real black. So he called me a little black foot. This man here. I promise you. That man said he was Puerto Rico. Nah, I say I'm, no, I'm Cherokee and Haitian. Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I've never heard anybody with that combination. I've heard some combinations. Yeah. But I have never heard Native American and Haitian. Yeah. Y'all ever heard of that combination? I mean, they don't really know. I mean, like I said, you know, you get a little this, a little dad.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You get a little European and you get a little, you know, South African and this. And, you know, you get me, you get some. But damn. Yeah. I mean, I said the same thing. I saw it. When the results came up, I said, what? Cherokee and Haitian? Yeah. And obviously a little African-American, so, you know, I mean, it is what it is. I'm proud of my heritage, though. Yeah. Proud. I mean, I was like a little history major, so I kind of, I was like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:43:23 What, no, I think the Muscogee. But like I said, I, uh, but like I said, uh, but who? Muskogee. No, Muscogee. They were, they were, they were more on the east. I know by the I had two homie from the Muscoogies. Who? Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. There's no Cherokee died there in Florida. Now, they die down here.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I'm telling you. I know. They used to go at it. They used to hunt, they used to hunt buffalo. And Gator. I don't know if Buffalo roamed that far. They did.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Back then they did. Nah, I think it was kind of, I think they kind of cut it off in like the mid, like Oklahoma and Texas. The Buffalo came towards Miami during the winter with the birds. When the birds flew south, the Buffalo came too. Colorado, Wyoming. I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 00:44:16 See, that's why I say, that's why the people, the man, they tried to erase the history. People don't even know that the buffalo was down here at the crib too. So when the birds flew south in the winter, when it got cold, the buffalo followed them. Okay, I'll take your word for it, Ojo. Yeah, man, you got to know your history. Oh, Cho, Seattle Seahawks running back, Zach Sharbino.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So for the season-ending knee injury, that will require surgery, Seahawks head coach Mac McDonald's said on Seattle Sports. McDonald called it a significant knee injury, unfortunately. It breaks your heart. He's going to need surgery, so he's got a good long road to come back. Damn. That's messed up, man. It is.
Starting point is 00:45:02 You know, yeah, obviously, listen, this football, man, it's a very barbaric. It's a brutal. game. Yeah, it is. And he was playing really well, boy. He was. Oh, man, he was playing really well.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But listen, Kenneth Walker the third. Oh, yeah. Very well capable. Yeah. He'd be toting that thing. He'd be toting that thing. So they're going to be all right. Excuse me, offensively.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I'm not sure who the third back is going to be, who now steps up into the number two slot. Yeah. But they're going to be all right. The chiefs are expecting to bring back a familiar face in Eric B. as the offensive coordinator, according to Tom Pelliserra reported today. With the chief's offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, contract expiring, and him taking a head coach job interviews,
Starting point is 00:45:50 chiefs are ready to turn back to E.B. Ocho, people were confused when Eric Banymi left Kansas City for a lateral O.C. move in Washington because he wanted credit as a play caller. After bouncing around the league, could you see him come back to help fix the struggling chief's offense and finally rewrite a narrative? that was, you know, he didn't really have a whole lot to do with the offense. I mean, I hate that, that he had to leave. Obviously, he wanted success.
Starting point is 00:46:18 He wanted to get credit for the success similar to the Kyrie situation in Cleveland. When LeBron was there, he wanted to have his own team and show that he can also lead in his own way. And the same thing with, with the enemy, you know, going to Washington. Obviously, you didn't have the same pieces. I obviously didn't have the goddamn quarterback, you know, to be able to have the success you would have to, even though you are a great play caller. Going back to the Chiefs after them having a down season, maybe Andy Reid release themselves
Starting point is 00:46:47 of the calling the plays and allows you to do what you've done best. You think Andy going to give up play caller? Oof, maybe, maybe not. I mean, I'm sure he's had some input on it before, you know. I think the thing is where EB is the guy that EB is the guy to hold everybody accountable. If you listen to guys talk, Oh yeah, he'll play.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Guy that's going to motho and curse people out and make sure everybody knows their responsibility and do your effing job. You remember, you see the clip where he's got, he's getting on AAAP, Agent Peterson. Uh-huh. He's like, did you do what you're supposed to do? But he said, no, what did you do? Mm-hmm. What were you supposed to do? So he'll be going to hold people accountable now.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's one thing. He's going to hold your ass accountable. It don't matter who you are. And maybe that's what they need. Maybe they had gotten away from that. All right, Ocho. Ocho, it's time for O'Cay. O'Chay.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Sitting bull. Cheese steakfoot, Little Blackfoot. Yeah, Little Blackfoot. That's me. They call me Little Blackfoot. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Ninth Cloud, Life. This is exactly why Georgia didn't want Beck back. Bro, they lost the national championship game. He played well, he threw a pick. But what about the game that he played last week, two weeks ago to get him in this position? Are we just gonna forget about that? Or what about the game that he played
Starting point is 00:48:41 when he went to the A&M? Are we gonna forget about that? Damn, boy, they're all hard. Hey, tough. McRodders and Ocho, what, oh, his money, that 5900 you owe it? Oh, it's double now. you right it is we're going on three years I mean come on now
Starting point is 00:49:06 ain't been no three years man it's going on three years been by six months if that it's going on three years old Joe going on three years man and you know you know times is tough man in this economy man so if they're time for you I mean what you think about me with a missing 5900 not me I mean you're in a better situation almighty James why does Indiana play so much his own coverage Why not? You play to win the game. I ain't trying to impress you by playing man.
Starting point is 00:49:39 It worked. Yeah, I mean, why question what covers their plan? I mean, that's what they've done all year. Based on who they're playing, based on the other team personnel, what do we do, what do we run where we can have the most success and get home?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Zone it is. I'm sure Buffalo did roam in Florida. I don't know if they roamed in Miami. maybe Jacksonville, the North Florida. Oh, no, we had never know, huh? We had never know. This was so long ago. This was so long ago.
Starting point is 00:50:15 We had never know. I don't know exactly where they are now. I know they're in Colorado. I know they're in Oklahoma. Yeah. I know they're in Wyoming. Yeah. In that area of the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I know that for certain. Yeah. Yeah. You just got to think about long ago this was, man. Stephanie, you finally back. Stephanie Warfield. Happy birthday. Vanessa Smith, hope you enjoyed your special day.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yes, happy birthday, Vanessa. Cal Simpson, Uncle Ocho, number 80 for Indiana, Charlie Becker can catch a greasy bar with you, Bibi in the dark with both hands ties behind his back. That boy, Fitzgerald. He made some plays tonight. They did. You remember he made that play Ocho in the Big Ten championship game?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Mm-hmm. On the third down, when they put it up, he high-pointed it, came down with it. Yeah, that was a great catch by him over there on that side, but. He had a couple of back, And the back shoulders. That back shoulder on the third down.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Killer, killing them. De Woods for, Ocho, what do you think about if Mac Jones was to join the Steelers at their future QB? They would have to trade for him. Yeah, you would have to trade for him. You got to protect him. He's not the most mobile guy.
Starting point is 00:51:30 He's had some athleticism. He can get out of harm's way. I like Mike. I think the West Coast system is best suited for him. But hey, but listening at the Rooney's talk, they're open to having Aaron Rogers come back. So we'll see. Aaron Jones, Fernando Mendoza was born in Boston.
Starting point is 00:51:58 They grew up in Miami. He lived his entire life in the U.S. The reason he spoke Spanish is to congratulate his grandparents. Why people got a problem with that? Everybody ain't got to speak just because you're in America. First of all, you do. realize people speak other languages in America. Yeah, like it's the only language you can speak if you're in America.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, I speak Spanish. And I'm so if, if, oh, Joe, I've never seen somebody speaking Spanish or right Japanese or Chinese or Vietnamese or whatever the case may be, whatever they're speaking you, you know, Russian, Belarusian, whatever right. I ain't never say speak English. I don't care. They're not talking to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And if they are talking to me, I don't know what they're saying. So I don't pay it. no attention anyway. Mm-hmm. I mean, I see people, I see, uh, uh, uh, two Asians, I see Asians speaking to each other all the time. I mean, people to clean my house, they speak and they, they're not talking to me. Right. Cause guess what?
Starting point is 00:52:56 When they want to ask me something, they say, excuse me, Mr. Mr. Sharpe. Mr. Sharpe. But when they're talking, it's just in their language to each other, I don't care. I don't. We got to just, oh, speak this. You and you. So, A. Oh, you want to speak English?
Starting point is 00:53:14 F you, Mofo. You understand that? Loud and clear. Yeah, the man, I mean, his grandparents, I guess, don't speak English or don't understand English, whatever case it may be. Yeah. Whatever, he spoke to him. Hands off to you, Fernando. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And I know your grandparents are extremely, extremely proud of their grandson and what you were able to accomplish. Congratulations to the Mendoza family. True and infamous. From worst team in college football to going 16 and 0 and winning the Big Ten, Rose Bowl, Peach Bowl, and now national champions. Congratulations, Indiana. Absolutely. That's, this is amazing story. They're going to do a, they're going to do a documentary.
Starting point is 00:54:04 They're going to do a story on this. We got to. This better than Rudy. This better than Rudy, Ocho. Yeah. Rudy got a couple of plays and they carried about the field. This here is better than Rudy Absolutely
Starting point is 00:54:17 Mark McDonald What's up on Ocho Lost my great granted this morning Been watching previously video To Coke Any advice moving forward to love the show Mark we're so sorry about the loss of a loved one My condolences
Starting point is 00:54:29 Deepest thoughts and prayers Go out to you and your family And all loved ones that impacted by this Only time You're never going to really get over You just get better at coping with it It's because she's always going to be there and for you to tell us about it
Starting point is 00:54:45 and obviously it means that you love someone very, very close and personal to you. And when you lose that person, I think the best thing to do is remember all the great times. Yeah. And not this most tragic instance in which, you know, she transitioned over. And that's how you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Just take one day at a time. That's what she would, I would like, always thought what my granny want me to do. And, you know, she, you know, a face. famous quotes today, boy, we all got to do it. We all got to do it. We all.
Starting point is 00:55:23 We got that appointment, Ocho. You know a lot of times we reschedule it. We changed our flights. We got a doctor's appointment. It's on a Tuesday. We ask, can we change it to a Wednesday or we change it the next week? Yeah. It's the one appointment.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You got to schedule. Everybody has that appointment. Can't change this one. That you cannot reschedule. The thing is, you just don't know when your appointment is. Damn. And you know what I got a question too, huh? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And this is for the chat to the chat. Y'all could answer in the chat. About that appointment, you can't reschedule when it's time to leave this certain. It's time to transition. Mm-hmm. Would you like to know when it's time to go? Or would you rather just, when it's time, whatever's supposed to happen, it just happens. Or would you like to know when it's actually your time?
Starting point is 00:56:08 I always thought about that. See, then now you're going to try to circumvent. Now all of a sudden. see you're supposed to live your life right. If you know it's going to come, guess what? You're going to be a jerk and be a heathen and do all these things and then try to get right. Well, my time tomorrow, Lord, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:24 hey, I want you to forgive me for all my done and all. I said, nah. That's why you're supposed to live your life, your life and a just and righteous way. Yeah. Because you don't know. You're going to have to ask for all this. The old saying, no, Cho, you're going to have to answer for this.
Starting point is 00:56:44 on this side or the other. But you're going to have to, hey, you're going to have to give an account. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, listen, I try my best to do right, but, man, look here, man. It ain't easy. Nah. Barrett Gang, the Hoosiers and Cheval-Laporteur both won tonight.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Ocho got to order. Nah, he just got to order. He just got to order a case, but he's still owe me $59. Hyundai. I got, I got the, I got the key. Hold on. I didn't get the case, but I got the case. What she said?
Starting point is 00:57:37 She knocked that. Oh. Steve Swift, Ogunocho, y'all doing a nightcap show overseas. We love you guys to come to the UK more life. We don't have that on the schedule, Steve. We do not have that on the schedule, but we do have a summer tour on the schedule or we're trying to put that together.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So hopefully if you visit the States, we'll be in an area era, area, excuse me, that's close to you and you can stop in to see us but we really appreciate you,
Starting point is 00:58:08 Steve, supporting us from the UK. We got fans all over the world, so we want to thank you. Oh yeah. Ron for me, Ocho, what's your top five Colognes?
Starting point is 00:58:19 You thought about doing a Q&A on Club Shea like Nightcap. Queen Latifah would be a great guest on Club Shethe by the way. That's a good one. Ocho, what's your top five Colognes. Hey, you know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Hey, Unk, I don't really know nothing about no colognes, huh? I got, I got, I got, I got two bottles. What you got? I'm really, I'm really bad at that. Piss and Musk. No, no, no, no, no, no. And matter of fact, I'm glad, I'm glad whoever asked you that, asked that question tonight. I'm glad you did ask that question because I literally only have two bottles of cologne.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'll go in sacks and I ask them, what are the top two sellers right now? I really don't know the names. I'm not really, really that, that, that, that, that, that, I'm not a cologne enthusiast. Yes. If someone could give me their top five or what's the best smelling, whether it's probably creed, got to be one of them because I see people buy it a lot of creed. Creed got a million different flavors, aren't.
Starting point is 00:59:14 They got too many flavors, man. Like everything can't smell good. Everything can't smell good. So if somebody needs to wear that your car, you remember that your car in that black bottle, that black bottle, your car? Yeah. Okay. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I remember that. Obsession by Calvin Klein. Okay, I remember Dior Savage that everybody killed I used to wear that brute Brute Brute That's for the old folk
Starting point is 00:59:39 Look here man My granddad was old What you thought he was going to buy Some Cologne Okay I put on what old spice I do it old spice Yeah you tap that thing on that like this
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, hey I had more I had more Cologne since probably 86 87 What you were oils I don't wear nothing No you're just me okay okay I like that
Starting point is 01:00:05 but listen I smell like toothpaste because all I do is brush my teeth hey I would I would like chat if you all know the top five colognes whether you male or female females things that you like to smell send you top five
Starting point is 01:00:20 if I'm going to start wearing colognes now Ocho somebody going to be looking to be I say hold on wait a minute you ain't want no cologne in 40 years yeah now you got it on I can show I can show I can show you.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Just like it, Ocho. Your girl don't work out. I don't do no working out. Let's just say you dating somebody and they don't work out. All of a sudden, they start working out.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Yeah, they're working out for somebody else, but. To see them naked. Yeah, who you tell? But you got to tell me twice. Yeah. I just say it.
Starting point is 01:00:52 But now, I have a warm cologne. I'm trying to think. Where did I go? Somebody gave me one of those big old, uh, I gave me the bucket. a ball of Tom Ford
Starting point is 01:01:11 about that clone like $700. $700? Mm-hmm. That man, the time for, man. Man, you know Tom Ford expensive. The hell? I mean, some Cologne would be $1,000.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, I'm good. Versace used to make a car. But all those, all those fashion designers, all them fashion designers. All them fashion designers, Versace and, you know, a Valenti, all used to make clones. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:01:45 But, you know, when I was growing up, I think, like in a high school, your car. I did buy Calvin-Klein obsession. Everybody would, man, that Calvin Clown obsession for him. Woo! That was it, huh?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Hey, you could catch no fish with that bait. There's something wrong with you? You ain't no fisherman. Yeah. Yeah, man. That Calvin, because they had those, those pharmones in it. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:13 That was back of the day, Ocho, back of the day. Long time ago. Yeah. Now, I just, I'm a body-wash type of guy. Okay. I used to use some level 3,000, ivory, zest, ivory spring.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I'm trying to think of the name of that damn cologne. I think I got a screenshot. You know, you wear it? Yeah, every time I leave, I spray, but I don't even look at the damn bottle. Noah Garcia, love the show, guys, keep it up. Ocho, pay that man. This ain't your year again.
Starting point is 01:02:57 We good, we good. Uh, juicy, 1976, Unc and Ocho, when Marshall Aneeland passed away. You said you had a story. And we're sharing later date and time. And I will. Uh, Bulldo TV, 85. Forget about that quick bet, that quick, that bet quick.
Starting point is 01:03:25 He didn't forgot. Ocho know he owe me money, man. I'm just saying, he now talking about the other bet. You're talking about for the game tonight. Because you said when you use the word case, I would think it's something else. But I'm good now. Yeah, me about to catch one.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yo, Kay, love how you hold player, love how you hold player accountable. I don't understand why some people can't hold guys like Allen accountable. When he plays bad, wanting to give him all these excuses. Then give him all the credit when he wins. And that's how it is.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's how, look, if you get the lion's share of the credit, the quarterback gets the lion's share of the credit. 90% of the credit goes to the quarterback. So when, when, when they win, he gets 90% of the credit. But when they lose, we just want to make it. No, no, no, we got to hold him accountable, especially when he turns the ball over.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It doesn't matter who or what the circumstances. You can't say, well, he ain't had no help. Well, how did he get to this far? Yeah, with help. Exactly. You can do it by itself. Electra, Ocho confirmed to me you used to go to David's Cafe all the time on London Road, Lincoln Road.
Starting point is 01:04:38 um with uh with that wild truck yeah i never forget davis cafe on 17th and meridian to be exact it was where i spent every day damn near every day if it wasn't the one on 17 in meridian uh it was the one on 11th and 11th and collins or yeah right right between collins and ocean and uh man i'm i miss i wonder how adrian is doing agent was the owner back then um and obviously I think due to COVID and when everything shut down, I think, you know, things didn't work out. But I thought I miss, well, I miss Davis Cafe, boy, that was some good Cuban food, boy.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah, we got to get some Cuban food when I come down there. Yeah, I got a perfect place for us. Right here down here at Havana. I mean, I want that Cuban sandwich. Oh, yeah, well, we got that right here. That's what I'm going to get. No pickles, though. I don't want no pickles.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah, we'll take care of you. We'll take care of you. And when you come and down here? Yeah, I do the mustard. No pickle, though. You heard me? Huh? When you're coming down here?
Starting point is 01:05:41 I'll let you know. I've been out to come down there. You know, and I'll probably come down there like March or April. Okay, okay. And, you know, we got to pay a little visage, you know, a little tussies, little booby trap. Nah, I don't want to go to them places, Ocho. I'm trying to show you some. Ocho, I'll be reading my daily bread.
Starting point is 01:06:00 I read the Bible now. Your daily who? Daily bread. What you, you're a Jehovah's Witness now? Hey, what? I'm trying to do right. I mean, it's okay to do right, but you still got to live. I can live without that.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Man, please. No, Uncle, don't do no coffee now. Dr. Frank El Bellamy. You sound and look a little better tonight. Glad you got a chance to get some rest. I needed it, Doc. I need it. Started out.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I've been fasting. I've been doing cardio. I'm going to get up. up early in the morning. I got to catch a flight early the morning, but I'm going to get up about 5 o'clock and do 45 minutes. A cardio.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Okay. I'm going to get right. I'm going to get myself about three months because I don't want to hurt myself because I got to probably have, like, overdo it, end up hurting myself. So I'm going to get myself like April, by my 58 birthday.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah. Are you, you going to have a party? No. I ain't got no money. Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to grab a bite to eat. Okay, okay. A food, a food, Cuban sandwiches, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Sam, food. Hey, matter of fact, I want you to go get no ideas. No, I'm just saying, if you're in Miami, you might be eating something else. See, there you go. I knew it. No, I'm saying. I'm saying something else. Like seafood, I mean, you know, soul food.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm allergic to shellfish. Okay, my bad. Not bad. Yeah, that's your bad. You try to be slick. You think you slick. No, you're in Miami. Look, there's so many different.
Starting point is 01:07:57 We only got room for one eater. I nominated you. That's me. That's me. Brian M. If Munkin gets the brown head coaching job, who would you both hire as Giants OC?
Starting point is 01:08:15 I mean, I mean, Harbaugh's had a lot of great relationships over the years. I don't. I have no idea. Bruce Bush Jr. What's up, Uncan Ocho? Much love from Shai. Today is my 28th birthday.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Besides your former teams, where would y'all want to play in both college and the NFL? Oh, where would we want to play? Shoot, if I could have it written like a Cinderella story, like the perfect ending, would I play for Famu and play for the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:09:07 My favorite college team growing up was Nebraska. Tommy phrasing him. No, that would be, no. Way before there. Turner Gill, Mike Rozier, Dean Stein, Kuhler, those guys. Damn. NFL, Steelers. I love Steelers growing up.
Starting point is 01:09:31 DeShon underscore, Uncle, who's your early national champ for next year? Damn. We can't even let them boy get, it ain't been 24 hours yet. Damn, Joe. Hey, you know what's funny. Hey, when I think about it, like Indiana, we keep saying Indiana beat Miami. Yes. But really, Indiana is just a bunch of kids from Miami, so Miami really just beat Miami,
Starting point is 01:09:59 even though they play for Indiana. But those kids are, look, those kids are like 22, 23 years old. Those are old. They're not the 18, 19 year old. And that's what, that's what, you know, that's where the thing is headed. That's where, that's where they're headed. DJ my night. Ocho, I know a Levin who's angry and can fit
Starting point is 01:10:28 in Buffalo or Baltimore, Trubisky bills or Stout Ravens will give up their jersey, L.O.L. There we go. What he was trying to say. Talk. He knew an 11 in Philly that would fit perfect in Buffalo. He got confused and put it backwards. I know 11 in Philly that'll look great in Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And then he was like, I'm like, okay. I said Chicago by accident, remember? No, I know. But what you should have said is that the 11 is in Philly that's available. Oh, no, what I was trying to say, but I did the purpose to make you think a little bit. The jersey number 11 is available in Buffalo. Yes. So you're supposed to get your senses like, well, who do hell wear number 11 that play receiver?
Starting point is 01:11:17 Oh, he talked about AJ. But that was all. Oh, I mean, since we say they need a receiver, I was thinking about, okay, I know a number 11 in Philly that's available. Or I know a number 11 that's available. Not a number 11 in Buffalo that's available. Because he's not available in Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Now, listen, the Jersey number 11 is available. Yes. Yes. It's supposed to make you think a little bit. That's all. Yeah, the chat was thinking, like, who is in Chicago? Who's in Buffalo? That's 11.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Yeah, see, that. My bad. My bad. Or we could have got Michael Pittman. Isn't Michael Pittman Jr. number 11? No, he were a single digit. What's Michael Pittman Jr.'s number? You're thinking eight or nine, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 01:12:18 11. He is 11? Yes. My bad. Got it with a K, Ocho. Are you suiting up to help us win the World Cup? USA? Man, please, boy.
Starting point is 01:12:36 We need, well, you're going to need more than me, boy. You're going to need more than me. You see Bearer. Who do you think is the best option to coach the Raiders? Shoot. Jesus? KV. in court.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Man, Lamar better stay with us. F all that other issue. And Lamar ain't going nowhere, man. Look. I think Steve made it barely clear. I want Lamar if Lamar wants to be here. He said it. He said, we want to do something.
Starting point is 01:13:19 By March, I mean, he laid it out yesterday. Hey, me and Erica fly down there, X, Y, Z, whatever we need. That's what you want. If not, we'll play this cap number and then go from there. Every Shavel is Ocho looking like Jerome from March. Martin. Jerome. Francisco Garcia, Unk, does Luke Keekley finally get a fair shot to the hall?
Starting point is 01:13:46 He has the resume. Longevity is missing, but the rest, he's the top two linebacker during his tenure. I absolutely agree. You're talking about a guy that was rookie of the year, a guy that's a defensive player of the year within his first two years? What, five time, first team, five or six time, first team all pro, seven times, eight times, all, uh, pro bowler. I definitely think Luke Keekley.
Starting point is 01:14:11 is more than worthy of getting there. Marlon Mox, Ocho is set to play Little Bill in the new feature film. Little Bill goes to Miami, Eric, on Peacock, February the 25th. I know that with my nickname growing up too, man. What, Little Bill? He used to call me Little Bill. They used to call me Little Bill or they called me Kill Bill.
Starting point is 01:14:32 What would they call you, huh? Yeah, Lil' Kill Bill, yeah. Okay. Yeah, but, you know, I got away from that, you know, that. Yeah, you got out of that life. Yeah, yeah, I got right. I got right. I'm King Rail, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Now, I told you, whenever you're ready, I'm looking up football field, and you're going to have to pay that money. Patriots to the Super Bowl, Legals and Five. Uh, Miss, Miss Patrice. Shannon is funny. Max ain't getting traded.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Raiders have the second highest cap space, and we have 10 picks in the draft. We're going to be fine. Ms. Patrice, you're not. You're not going to be fine. and you need to hit all of those picks to even have a chance. Brian M. Stidham can be the next Hostetler. He got the defense, just like the 1990s.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I'm taking the underdog. But you guys do realize Hosteller just didn't start the playoffs. He had started. Phil Sims had got hurt. He was starting. Phil came back. Coach Parcell stuck with him.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Y'all said Tom Brady did it. Tom Brady had started like 12 games and in the playoffs. Y'all said Nick Foles. Nick Foles had been a starter. He had started, I think, the last three games and the two games in the postseason. And then he's the Super Bowl. This is not the same scenario.
Starting point is 01:16:07 No. None of those guys just started the NFC or the AFC championship game. Sean Payton believes in him. Sean said this guy could be a starter for another team. So we're going to find out. We're going to find out. Brandon Crowe, hey, uncano. What team do you see Jeremiah Smith making the biggest impact
Starting point is 01:16:33 when he gets drafted in 27? Anyway. You got to realize who's up there. Who's up there that needs a receiver? They're going to take him. He still got another year, huh? Yeah. Yeah, they're saying in 27.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yeah. We don't know who's going to be, you know, the bottom three. Hell, he might be. He might be a first pick. Yeah, I was just getting rid of say that. He might be one. Remedy, Unk,
Starting point is 01:17:01 please remind Ocho that Pinkins not going anywhere. Jerry loves him and can afford him. He'll get franchise tag at minimum. No. Just enjoy it, Ocho. He can't afford him. He can afford him at a goddamn lower price. God,
Starting point is 01:17:16 y'all fans so selfish, man. Let the man go get his bread and get his... Come on, man. What's wrong with y'all, man? Giley. Be more cow. Do you believe Brian Flores will ever get another head coaching job in the NFL?
Starting point is 01:17:32 I do. Michael Alans. Do you think bills will be making a change, swing for their next head coach, maybe someone under contract with a year left on a deal? Coaches don't really normally, it doesn't normally work like that with coaches.
Starting point is 01:17:48 I mean, we did see Coach Belichick go for a trade. We saw, who else got traded? John Gruden? I think Herman was too. Did her men was, I think Herman was, didn't Herman was get traded? Herm. Mr. Jack,
Starting point is 01:18:21 Giacomo, you guys are awesome. Thanks, Jack. Appreciate you watching. Mike and Mike, what's up, Unc and Ocho? Ocho, are you going to send Kurt a gift from the purchase you made today from from,
Starting point is 01:18:32 um, Kurt. Who you owe? I don't know. Besides me. I don't owe nobody, boy, I don't bet with nobody. Spicy wife for life, Miami homegrown, South Miami, gray ghost,
Starting point is 01:18:52 Fernando, youth team, love Uncan Ocho. Thank you. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. You were so right about Tomlin Harbaugh and McDermott. I know a little something, but hey. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you watched Indiana complete the Cinderella.
Starting point is 01:19:18 It's not Cinderella. Complete a magical, magical season. They finished the season. 16 and 0. They won the Peach Bowl, running the Rose Bowl, won the National Championship, won the Big Ten Championship.
Starting point is 01:19:32 They got the Heisman Trophy winner. Didn't Signetti win Coach of the Year? I don't think so. But they won a lot. Indiana is the football capital of the country right now. Thanks to a 2721 victory, their Hoosiers take down the Miami Hurricanes
Starting point is 01:19:52 and cap a perfect season. I am your favorite up. That is my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own, Bengals, Ring of Fame, Honorary, a former pro bowler, and an all pro. He's Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button
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Starting point is 01:21:16 The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So again, the Indiana Hoosiers sit atop of college football. Thanks to a 27, 21 victory. They cap the most improbable run to a national championship that we've seen. I don't know if we've ever seen a run like this from a team like this. 16 and O, Hizman trophy winning quarterback, Big Ten champs, and now national champ. Congratulations to the Indiana Hoosiers.
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