Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Eagles' Tush Push Survives + RIP Jim Irsay

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson react to the vote to ban the Eagles' Tush Push failing at the NFL owners meeting, Colts owner Jim Irsay passing away, and much more!01:47 - Brandon Miller only untouchable player on Charlotte’s roster05:38 - Colts owner passes away09:38 - NFL announces Protector of the Year award10:54 - Browns fans upset with mayor’s statement23:00 - NFL needed 26 votes to ban Tush Push26:13 - Fox releases Top QB-WR Duos32:42 - Aaron Donald with 130lb dumbbells39:19 - Enhance League48:10 - Q & Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. Brandon Miller is reportedly the only untouchable player on the Hornets roster. One opposing exec told Hoops Wire that he's led to believe Brandon Miller is the lone untouchable Charlotte roster, is the only lone untouchable on Charlotte's roster. Though he doesn't think LaMelo Ball or Miles Bridges will be moved,

no one will pay what the Hornets are surely seeking for either player, the executive said. Joe, what do the Hornets need to do to become, just to make the playoffs? Man, they need some of that talent they got over there to develop, like Brandon Miller. They need him to develop into a young... Melo got to stay healthy.

Yeah, you need Melo to stay healthy. There's so many components that need to be in place for them to be a playoff team. I think they got some talent. Anke Ocho, yeah, it just seems like ain't nothing been going Charlotte way over these past few years, man. You know what I mean?

So they might be a team who need to make a few splashes, Anke Ocho this summer. You know, I don't know what it is, but they need some help. Well, if you... They need to get Mello up out of there, boy. Mello belong on one of them big market teams, boy. I'm telling you, he's box office. He's exciting to watch.

He's one of them players like, man, you put the ball in his hand, man. Ain't no telling what the hell's going to happen, boy. But here's the thing, though, Ocho. Huh? Yeah, there's a lot of players, but is he going to stay healthy? That's his problem. Is he box office? Yes.

Can he put the ball in the basket? Yes. Can he stay healthy? No. Yeah. Damn. Availability. Yeah. office yes can he put the ball in the basket yes can he stay healthy no yeah damn availability yeah that's that's the best ability ain't nobody ever questioned when joel and b plays and he's good to go you're right he's unstoppable the closest thing to shat that we've got in the nba when it comes to unstoppability but Right. But I just don't know, Ocho. He might play 65, 70 games.

He might play 25 games. Hmm. And I can't bank on that. Yeah. That's the problem that you have with these guys. Like LaMelo and Joel Embiid,

the only thing is how healthy are they going to be? How many games are they going to play this year? Right. Dang. Yeah, Philly spent some money on Embiid and Paul George. Yeah.

That's crazy. Well, look, they already done did. Charlie got theirs. They drafted Kobe, traded it. Drafted She Kobe, traded it. Drafted Shea, traded it. Hey, hey,

look. What they, what they traded, what they did is that they took Vlade Divac for Kobe. Yeah.

Kobe got, so the Lakers got the draft rights to Kobe for Vlade. And then Shea was traded to the Clippers for, they swapped, swapped it. Yeah. rights to Kobe for Vladi. And then Shea was traded to the Clippers for

the swap pick. Yeah. But if that's the case, you should have just taken Miles Bridges and then if that's what you wanted. I've never understood that. What's that?

Like Vince Carter and Antoine Jamison was traded for each other. If that's what you wanted, I never understood that. What's that? We're going to select this. Like Vince Carter and Antoine Jamison was traded for each other. Bro, they're four and five. Just take the guy. Or like Orlando and Golden State when Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber came out. Yeah. Why don't you draft Chris Webber with Shaq? Why not just take Penny with the number one pick?

Right. I don't get it. Man. I don't know, Charlotte. Y'all gotta make, y'all gotta do something. I got some sad news, Ocho. Colts owner Jim Ursae passes away. He led the team since 1997 and presided over the West Shore franchise's

greatest eras. He was 65 years a day. 65 years of age. He led the team since 1997 and presided over the West story franchises, greatest errors. He was 65 years a day, uh, 65 years of old, 65 years of age. Excuse me. Earlier today, he posted on X, his support for his Indiana Pacers and Herb Simon ahead of their opening game,

uh, in the Eastern conference finals, uh, New York Knicks. He wrote, go Pacers. Good luck to her being top Pacer our city. He passed shortly after that. I've only met him a handful of times.

Most of the owners, I mean, let me stop saying most. Every owner that I meet, they're always gracious to me. They always respect the way you play, really love the way that you do. You can tell you study. Love that you, you know, you love the NFL, and we appreciate, wish we had more guys like you. All of them, Mr. Blank, Jim Irsay, when he was with the Hornets, Jerry Richardson.

I know for the most part all of them, and they've always been very very very you know respectful to me and it's you know death is never fair you know I mean when you were young it was like damn but now you know that's the one thing about it

is it can't be fair can't you gotta take black white you gotta take young old you gotta take young old you gotta take men women got to that's the way hey Joe the way I've always been

that's the way I live I live the way I live mom everyday I treat everyday like it's my last I'm always happy why you always smiling why you always laughing why you always telling people you love them everywhere you go why when you meet people you hug them you hug them you act like you've known them 30 years because i never know i never know so if they if in in remembrance of whenever it's time for me to transition that moment that one moment you always remember it's always always

a good one is it'll always be a good one the funny thing about life is when you're born you never know your expiration date is no you never know your expiration date is so i always love to live life each day as if it's my last which is why i look at people that that think they can no matter what you do huh you know if you believe in god you understand God knows when that day is. You don't. But for some reason, people on earth have this inclination that there are certain things I can do in life that can extend that expiration date. That's not the way it works. No. That's not the way it works. You can't extend anything.

But when it's time to go, and that knock on the door, you hear me? When that knock on, well, you coming, you hear me? When that knock call, well, you coming home. It's the one appointment you can't reschedule. Man, stop playing, man. Stop playing. It's the one.

Hey, oh, I can eat this and I live a little bit longer or I can do this and I live, I mean, what? What? Man, if you don't get out of here and live and enjoy yourself before that time

comes, because you don't know. Shh. So it's, I'm sure because he was a very generous man to the city of Indianapolis. He loved his coats. Obviously his dad, I think his dad, uh,

I think his dad's name was Bob. What was his name? I think his daddy's name was Bob Irsay. He took over for his dad. I think his daughter is going to take over for him. Man, that's sad, man.

Mm-hmm. Rob, yeah. Yeah. I thought, yeah's sad, man. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I thought, yeah. But Jim Irsay gone at the age of 65. NFL exec Troy Vinson announces a new end-of-the-year award. Protector of the Year. Recognizes the best offensive lineman each year. Credit Deion Dawkins and others for championing the cause.

Ocho, who do you got winning the first one? Who do I have winning? Yep. If anything, I would say it's Deion Dawkins, right? And right tackle. I'm going Trent Williams or what you call him? Lane Johnson.

Yeah, okay, Lane Johnson. Or Deion. Tristan Ward might have something to say about that, Ocho. Hey, Ward might. Left tackle, right? Left tackle, right? But Tampa, listen, I understand it, but I'm saying what Deion Dawkins

was able to do in that goddamn Deion Johnson, Trent Williams missed a few games. Yeah. We know how great Trent is.

I didn't say Trent's name simply because he missed a few games. We know what he can do. But I think from a standpoint of being dominant all season long,

man, what Deion Dawkins was able to do and Deion Johnson, two tremendous players. So if there's a protective of the year this year or this past season, I would go with those two. Uh-oh. Browns fans are upset, something the mayor said.

Cleveland Mayor Justin Bibb said, I don't care if the Browns leave Cleveland. There are more important priorities than the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, everybody says that until they leave. Mm-hmm. St. Louis, you know, St. Louis said that too. Yeah, until they left. And Arizona left. Oh, we want another team.

And then guess what? The Rams came. And then they left. As a city of St. Louis, would they like to have another NFL franchise? Absolutely. Yeah, you know what it does for the... Oh, great, Oakland. Man, we don't care

that we're in L.A. Come back, come back, come back. Then we're back. We don't care if y'all leak. Mm-hmm. Ask Oakland if they want another team.

Absolutely. If you understand what it does for the economy, having a team, having a franchise in your city, you understand. Every network... Be careful what, you understand. Every network.

Be careful what you wish for. Every network, Ocho, gave up the NFL. CBS gave it up. NBC gave it up. ABC, Monday Night Football, used to come on ABC.

Remember that, Ocho? Absolutely. They gave it all back. I remember the theme song. Now, look at what they're paying. Netflix, Amazon. Now, I don't know if y'all know this, but keep an eye on when these are in 2030,

don't be surprised if your Sunday football is on Netflix and Amazon. They got it. The NFL don't cut nothing by no loyalty now. I understand the NFL's been on CBS for a long period of time. I know these guys, I'm telling you, they got hordes of money. Lots of it. Hordes of money.

Top dollar. Hey, hey, hey, you ever think about that? Can you imagine if we had the kind of money, Joe? What do you mean? Us have that kind of money? I don't want that kind of money like Netflix. Hell no. Yeah, no, Amazon.

Hey, what if we had money like Jeff Bezos? Oh, no, come on, Ocho. Man, y'all wouldn't know how to act. Oh, no, listen, Joe, I'm well off and I'm rich. Boy, you could hit me in the ass with a red apple. You know what I'm saying, though, Joe? You're going to give me a quarter of a bill? Joe, man, please.

Hey, Joe, I don't really do much. And I'm good now. I've been good for a while. I'll tell you what. I don't really do much, Joe. So that'll stop you. If you gave me much, much more than what I have now, I mean, I'm probably going to do much more.

I'm going to still be gaming. I'm still being McDonald's. You probably have a couple more cars. I tell you what. Savannah State is going to have the best HBCU football team. They're going to have the best band. They're going to have the best academic program. I guarantee you that.

I can't guarantee you a whole lot else. Right. But I guarantee you. Yeah. Savannah State will be the equivalent of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and HBCU. Whoever, whatever programs that they do have. Right. Whatever.

Harvard, Princeton, and Yale. I'm going to get them. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I would probably do the same. Obviously, never have an opportunity to go to FAM, but having such a love and enthusiastic passion

for the school in general, I'd do the same, huh? I would have FAM looking like a college university. It'd be better than... Absolutely. Better than having best uniforms, best coaches,

best food, treatment facilities, amenities. I'm going to get Nick Saban. Nick Saban, I got $20 million, Nick Saban. Five years, $100 million. Man, they got Nick Saban coaching at Savannah State. You're damn right. Hey, boy, hey, I flipped Tallahassee upside down, man.

I'm going to get the coach at Connecticut. I got $12 million a year for you. I'm spinning. Man, I got $200 billion. That's too much. Man, please. Hey, Tablo. Oh, yeah.

We got the best track program. We got the best everything. Oh, absolutely. You know what I would want to do, huh? If I had Jeff Bezos type money, I would want to own a team. You want to own one? I would want to own a football team, yeah.

Like, I don't want to be... Well, you would have to overpay to get one. You know that, right? But you got that kind of money, so you don't really care. Yeah. I see you doing that at some point, though. Did y'all see Jeff Bezos getting

a sports franchise? He had opportunity. He could have bought the Broncos. He could have bought Washington. They won't let him in, huh? I don't think he really wanted it. He's probably waiting for hell. Oh, what you mean?

They let the Walton just bought the Broncos. He worth waiting for a hell of a... Oh, what you mean? They let the Walton just brought the Broncos. He worth a hundred plus billion. Ah. Honestly, I don't want no franchise. I just go like, hey, set the kids up. Hey,

this is all y'all get. Y'all blow this, you're out of gas. But you're out of gas. But, you're out of gas, I'm sorry. But, man, I'm too charitable. There'll be a lot of kids,

there's gonna be a lot of kids, hey, Glenville High School, hey, you graduate, when you want to go to college, four years paid for. Mm.

Yeah. I like that. You've been thinking about some of this, ain't you, huh? Oh yeah, for sure. I already got,

I already got, I already got that money spent. Man, they already know how I do. After you asked track and field athletes to the world championships, man, I gave up myself on the fire.

Did you? Yeah. Was it Olympics or the world championships? Olympics. Olympics. Yeah. Win the gold medal, break a world he? Yeah. Was it Olympics or the World Championships? Olympics. Olympics. Yeah. Win the gold medal and break a world record? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, don't forget me. I wasn't on that too now. Yeah, but I said, yeah, we

can, yeah. Hey, Joe, you know, we bless him a little bit. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, Southern, hey, we went down to Southern, they performed. Hmm. Hook them up. Hook them up. Hook them up. Yeah, like I said, God knows what he's doing. He knows not to give me no $200 billion because he already knows.

Damn. But, hey, listen, you know what? I think our chance to do greater or getting that kind of money are really, really good because he knows our heart. He knows what we're going to do with that money. Yeah. So I'm going. I'm helping everybody.

I'm helping people. Like, in a natural disaster, like the fires or hurricanes, yeah. What y'all need? Yeah. Hey, Joe, I'm going to go

play the lotto tomorrow. I'm just feeling lucky. Listen, if the Indiana Pacers could win a game like that tonight, down what? 12-4-3

for two minutes on the clock? Yeah. Ochoa. I'm playing a lot, Ochoa. Okay. I'm going to hit. I'm going to hit and I'm going to give me a property. Oh, I'll tell you what I am going to do.

What? I'm going to go to Nashville and I'm going to buy me a farm. And I'm going to have me some mini horses, some mini cows, some mini goats. Hold on. Why didn't I go to you? I don't know. I want to be out. I want to be.

No, absolutely not. No. It's going to be trouble, trouble. Trouble, trouble. Yes. I want mini horses. I want mini cows. I want some mini goats i want me some dogs i want me some animals like raccoon possums oh you want some raccoon and possums

yeah for pets i'm with you with the animals but the raccoon and possum i can't do the raccoon but i want a raccoon so bad man hey let me tell you how some uh when i played the university of arkansas under nolan rich Richardson, he had a farm. He still got a farm. He still live on the same farm. And he had horses. He had great things. And this man has deers that walk around the yard in the house like they dogs.

Deers. Really? Man, I'm 17, 18 years old. I own his farm. You know, he used to throw all these events for the team, for the players. Yeah. Fight us over. His wife cooked.

God rest her soul. She just passed away not long ago. But, man, I've never seen a deer walk up to you and let you pet him and rub him. Look, they all run together. The deers, the great Danes. He got horses. He had four wallows. He had a whole nine over there. Oh, man. He had four wallows. He had the whole nines over there.

Oh, man. He should go over there and have a ball. I like that. Yeah, that's what I'm going to get. That's what I'm going to get. But the Browns, look. Browns, look.

I understand. I understand, Mayor. Sometimes these owners try to squeeze you and add taxes, hotel taxes, and sale taxes and things and make you pay for the stadium

and, you know, a three, four, you know, two, three billion dollar stadium. And you're like, that's not, that's not what I want to use the citizens of Cincinnati for. Yeah. Um,

but if I, you know, if I had that kind of brain, you know, I got, Jimmy has them. I mean, he's got good money. He don't have money like, you know, the top 50 people in the world. Right. Uh, but you know, Oh Joe,

you got 250 B. I built my own stadium. Yeah, man. I mean, bro, when you got, when you got $200 billion,

what's 5 billion? It's like, it's like you, Ocho, it's like you right now just giving away by $10. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Making that kind of revenue, it's reoccurring.

And he's still getting it every year. It's not like he lost five. Bro, Amazon knock on my door by five, ring my doorbell by five times a day. You have titles going crazy. Yeah, so we're going to have to get in contact with old Bezos. I got his number. You got his number?

Yeah, you know, me and the commission like this. And so the connection between the commission, it was able to link me with Mr. Bezos. And, you know, I am. Man, man, give me your number, man, just in case, you know. Keep that in touch. Yeah, just keep in touch. I might need you for some business or something. Just keep that tucked away.

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Here are the 10 teams that voted against the Tush Push band. Obviously, the Eagles, Ravens, Browns, Lions, Jags, Dolphins, Patriots, Saints, Jets, Titans. Every team that didn't vote, every team that chose not to vote against the Tush Push, I salute you. I salute you I salute you because at this point so every time there's a play or there's a situation or there's a scheme that we can't stop

in the offseason we're going to go vote against it we're going to find a way to stop it because we can't personally or we just don't have the personnel to stop

the Twitch Force oh we're going to go vote like come on man this is where the game has come to stop it because we can't personally or we just don't have the personnel to stop the Twitch for us. Oh, we're going to go vote. Like, come on, man. This is where the game has come to. Stop it. If you don't like something. Hey, when I play teams, coaches, media, they complain. He always celebrating when he get in the end zone. Well,

hell, shit, stop it. Keep him out. That's what they say about, oh, man, T.O. get in the end zone. I say, y'all don't want T.O. to dance? Keep my D.O. on. It's pretty simple. Same thing with Twitch. If you don't keep my D.O. on, he man, T.O. getting the ends on. I say, y'all don't want T.O. to dance? Keep my ends on. It's pretty simple. If you don't keep my ends on, he gonna dance. He gonna do whatever he gonna do.

He gonna grab pom-poms. He gonna get popcorn. He gonna do whoever dance it is. He gonna do it. If you don't want him to dance, keep my ends on. Simple. Simple as that. So when it comes to the tush-push, keep my ends on. Keep my 31, 32, 34. Yeah, keep my ends on. There you go. keep them out of short keep them out of the red zone keep them out of 31 keep them out of 31

yeah keep them out there you go oh Joey reported that temp was flared during the debates Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie during a lengthy speech on the Tush Push ban

called the play a win-win for the team regardless of whether it was bad comparing its success success to a a wet dream for a teenage boy

because it boy because it was so effective and it had to be outlawed. Lurie also criticized NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Executive Vice President Troy Benson for pushing to ban the play. After Lurie finished, Vincent,

who played for the Eagles from 96 to 03, called him out for using the term wet dream in front of women per Seth Wickersham. You got to choose your words wisely. Yeah. If it's all men

in the room, bonjo? It's okay. Yeah. It's like we're in the barbershop. Yeah. We talk openly.

There's women. there's kids in there yeah we keep it pg change the sentence structure that's all that's what i call it yeah change the sentence structure and we we we get you know hey i i don't really see the comparison because they didn't have an outlawed that phase that a boy goes through. They have an outlawed it. I don't think they're trying to outlaw it Ocho. But I think, I think a part of me wants to understand what he was trying to say,

but I didn't get there. I didn't get there like he got there. I understood we were trying to go with it. I was picking up what you put down. Oh, Joe. Fox released their top wide receiver duos heading into next season. Number one, obviously, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. Number two, Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb.

Number three, Jerry Goff, Armand Ross St. Brown. Number four, Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown. Number five, Matthew Staffff, Armand Ross St. Brown. Number four, Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown. Number five, Matthew Stafford, Huka Nakua. Number six, Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans. Tied for seventh with Jane Daniel

and Terry McLaurin, along with Lamar Jackson and Zay Flowers. Number nine, C.J. Stroud, Nico Collins. Number 10, Tua and Tyreek. Also receiving votes, honorable mention, Josh Allen, Khalil Shakur,

Justin Herbert, Ladd McConklin, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Jr., Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith, Joe Burrow, T. Higgins.

What did they get right? What did they get wrong? I wish I could have this. What was this on? Do you know what site this was on? It was on Fox. Hold on. Fox Sports. Hold on.

It's on the screen, though, Joe. I know, but the screen is so small. You can see that? Yeah. You click on it? You can click on it? On the screen is so small you can see that? yeah you click on it you can click on it? on the screen on there no you can't

I'm talking about to make it bigger on what he's looking at oh you can do that? are you looking at it Ojo? yeah it's right here it's right above your head you can't double tap that screen and make it pop up big on your screen right there you know, it's like a... You can't double tap that screen and make it pop up big on your screen

right there? Oh, shit. It made it smaller. Well, hey, get some, hey, get some big eyes. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Let me see if I can make it bigger. Damn, I can't. Nah, I'm going back to... Damn, I can't see it. Let me see. Based on what I know, I know they got Joe right. I know they got Joe right. Nah, I'm going back to, damn, I can't see it. Let me see.

Based on what I know, I know they got Joe Wright. I know they got Joe Wright. Now, they said duos, which will be talking about quarterback, number one receivers. Jamal Chase is up there at number two. Number two, I would- CeeDee Lamb. That's right, ain't it?

Who? Dan Cancini Lamb. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, who is that? Who is that at number three? Jerry,

Jerry Goffin, Armin Ross, and Brown. That's, that's a good one. So what they got the Eagles at four? Eagles at four with Jalen Hurst and AJ Brown, Matthew Stafford and Puka Nakua at five.

Okay. Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans at six. Ash just texted to you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Ash. So I can see it a little better. Thank you, mama.

Okay. Now we're talking. You know what? The order, this is about right. This is right. And, and it was, was,

was, was not fair, obviously, because AJ Brown doesn't get as many opportunities as Amon, Amon, Amon Ross St. Brown. I would,

I would, I would have kind of flipped that and I would put Baker Mayfield in front of Pooka Nakua and Matthew Stafford. And I put Matthew Stafford and Pooka Nakua at, at six and then put Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans at 5 the Jane Dames is okay it was their first year

Lamar Zay Flowers is perfect, Nico Collins whoa and C.J. Shroud is already up a little higher I think yeah I'm putting C.J. Shroud and Nick McCullers at 7 I'm putting them at 7 so really at 7

you could have and I don't like the fact that Tyreek and Tua just because they had an off season they all the way down at 10 because when they on fire so who you gonna put them in front of so coming into this year where you gonna put them in front of? So coming into this year where you gonna put them? Coming into this year

for the sake of them having a down season because of Tua's injuries last year we can keep them at 10. But we know when Tua and Tyreek is on you already know what type of production that is.

Yeah. But we saw Brian Thomas we I don't know who gonna be what you call him I mean just imagine if Malikik Nabors had a quarterback. Hey, and he still had a great year. Had 109 catches.

He had a great year. But hold on, you know who's not on here, which I don't understand why he's not on here? Probably because of Trevor Lawrence. That goddamn Brian Thomas Jr. Now, Brian Thomas Jr. should be on here. Who is quarterback? That's the point. Bryant Thomas Jr. Now, he, Bryant Thomas Jr. should be on here. Despite having... Who? Who is quarterback?

That's the point. It don't even matter who his quarterback is. Look at his numbers as a rookie. Yeah. God damn it. Boy, down there,

down there in that adult ballet room yeah I guess luxury luxury gay you know look he can't even get together over there you know we can see you right Ocho

oh shit little further off screen Oh shit The other way yeah My bad Oh Joe the chat says the Cowboys are number two For clickbait Chat thinks they're too high

No they're not too high Even if you don't like the Cowboys Even if you don't like the Cowboys and the defense was horrible, they always lose in the first round of the playoffs. Now, we're talking about from a quarterback and receiver standpoint and production that those two put up together, especially last season. They had a great year together last year. No, that was the year before last.

Huh? Remember, Dak got hurt last year. That was the year before last. Yeah. When CD led the league in catches. Right. Well, matter of fact, if that's what we're going to do,

if that's what we're going to do and they're going to put him at number two, well, hell, the year before last, Tyreek was an animal. Well, they said, they're basing it on

coming into this season. Okay, okay. Where do you think this season? Right. They're looking at that is back healthy, and he has someone opposite of CD that you can't double it.

Right. Okay. I understand. I understand. I like this, though. I like this, though. Ocho, did you see this video, Aaron Donald with the 130-pound dumbbells? Ooh, I see.

Look at this. How many reps do you think you can do with these, Ocho? 130, maybe eight at most. I mean, I'm just being honest. Maybe eight at most. Yeah. You can do something with them 130s? Got nine. He playing around man i you know you're born i ain't what i used to be joe you said uh what i do i had them all how many i do remember i did i had 132 and a half

nah yeah i did 132 and a half i did those for 10 hey look when you're playing when you're done playing that's a part of you that kind of sticks with you, especially if you love staying in shape. Yeah, man. Yeah. Hey, Joe, not all of them do that, Joe. I know, I know not all of them. And you see some of them boys now, you'd be like, bro, what happened to you? I know.

Hey, there's some DBs and running backs look like D-line and O-line. I'm like, I always say it. I wanted, like, if a father and son were to see me, like, he used to be an NFL player. Right. Oh, I can see he played tight end. Okay, okay, I can see that.

I didn't want to look like a D-lineman. I didn't want to look like an offensive lineman. I wanted to look like, okay, people look at me, they say, oh, you played the sport what you play right i can tell so on man hey yeah nah nah it's some guys i kind of just let go and i i'm never i'm never with that i'm a guy who i always love being in shape you know what i mean like i enjoy that part of it so i enjoy the grind i embrace the grind, actually. And it's fun to me, man. So when I see Big Aaron down out there throwing them 130s around,

I'm like, yeah, he ain't even playing no more. That man's still out there getting it. Yeah. I mean, for me, I mean, too, they just hold. Lifting that heavy weight just hold too much weight on me, Joe. He just hold it. Amen to that, Joe. If I try to get down on the 250,

I can't go over 100. Yeah. Because my ego won't let me stop. Hey, Joe, I'm going to hit them 130 for you in the morning, Joe. I got my gym session at 6 a.m. I'm going to hit them 130s for you, man. You want to hit them 130?

You coming like that? Yeah, Joe. I got to play around with them hundreds. I'm going to hit them 130s for you, man. You want to hit them 130s? That's how you coming like that? Yeah, Joe. I got to play around with them hundreds. I post them hundreds all the time on Twitter and Instagram. I'm going to go out tomorrow and see what I'm looking like, see what I can do. Not much. You ain't doing

them 130s. Let's bet. You want to bet? Put some money on it. How many times you going to hit it? None. Zero. I want to know because when I see you trying to toss

them 130s around, I want to see how many times you telling me you going to hit that 130. Not one. Hey, Joe.

I told you how many times you going to do it. Hey, Joe. On Twitter, somebody will send it to you, right? People in the chat, they'll see me

playing around with Hunnits doing 10-15. So, if I could do 10-15 with the Hunnits incline or decline, what you think I'm going to do with them 130s?

I don't know. I haven't did 130s in a minute. Nothing? Okay. You won't be, yo, we going to see tomorrow, Joe.

I'm going to send it to you. All right. I'm real, I'm real strong. I just, I'm sprawny though. You hear me? Yeah. You always been like that. Like, you probably can't I'm real strong. I'm sprawny, though. You hear me?

Yeah. You always been like that. Like, you probably can't pick up a lot of weight, but you... But my body won't expand the way I want it to expand. You feel me? Yeah. Like, right now, like, right now, it's probably my biggest I ever been. Like, right now, I'm about, honestly, about 196. Hmm.

Yeah, I'm about 196. And I can't get, I can't go over that. Joe, I got a problem eating three meals a day. So look, even the way you eat, you ain't got no,

you can't pick up no weight. Nah, man, Joe, that's my problem. My baby be trying to get me to eat three times a day. Joe, I eat one meal a day, I'm good. The whole day.

The whole day. Don't care nothing about nothing else. I'm on the game. I take me a nap, get ready for the show. And she'd be like, did you eat?

I'd be like, damn, no. One big meal, one day, and I'm good. I'm satisfied the whole day. Smoke my cigar,

get my coffee, and I'd be set. If I was able to be a little bit more disciplined and structured and actually eating three meals a day, you know, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, workout, you know, creatine and protein, all that. Did you feel more of that?

No, I just go to the gym, eat that breakfast after that, and I'm done the rest of the day. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, back in the day, Joe, I used to bad look here. When I was playing at 228, I could handle those 170s. I did the 170s for six. Damn.

Mm-mm. Yeah, it's true. Because I used to, like, when I first went to Baltimore, I would work out by myself because I didn't really know anybody and I didn't really trust nobody to spot. And, you know, a lot of times I work out by myself. I took 405 down, did it six times by myself because I didn't really know anybody and I didn't really trust nobody to spot. A lot of times, I work out by myself. I took 4.05 down and did it six times by myself.

I probably could have got seven, but I always, when I work out, I always leave one in the chain. Always. Basically, by yourself. You mess around. Yeah, I can't afford to get stuck with 4.05 on me.

So, I, yeah. I can't afford to get stuck with 405 on me. So I got six. I was like, I thought about it. I contemplated. I said, nah, let me go ahead and rack it. And then I'm like, where? And football, you know, y'all like real bulky. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Basketball, we real lean. Yeah, you don't need all that strength. It messes your shot up, all that strength in your shoulders. Yeah, and because we need all that strength. It messes your shot up, all that strength in your shoulders. Yeah, and because we do so much running, it's hard to keep that type of muscle on. So when I see Giannis and Shea and how they all

cut up and ripped up, man, that take a lot of work, man. It take a lot of work. And I will stay strong, Joe. I will stay strong probably till about week 12, week 13 until my shoulders start getting really sore. Because I will still do, Joe. I will stay strong probably until about week 12, week 13, until my shoulders start getting really sore. Because I will still do it.

I can still do up until probably week 14, 15. I still could do like 315 for like 12. I can still handle like 120-pound dumbbells for like eight. But after that. That's squat weight waiting for me. 400, 415, 315. That's squat waiting for me. Yeah.

Ocho, they got a new thing called Enhanced Game to debut in 2026, allowing PED use in Olympic style events. According to ESPN, the Enhanced League, which will feature Olympic-style sports, announced plans to host in exactly one year its first annual competition in which athletes will be allowed, if not outright encouraged, to use PEDs like steroids, testosterone, and growth hormones

that are typically illegal to possess but banned in sports. Not typically illegal, is legally to possess in some situations, but banned in sports. Drugs that are illegal in the United States won't be permitted. However, an athlete must reveal which drugs they are taking and undergo medical screening, though not plans are to enforce the drug testing program. The game will feature eight different events. Swimming will hold 50-meter, 100-meter races and freestyling

butterfly. Track will hold 100-meter sprint, 110 hurdles. Weightlifting features snatch, clean and jerk, and snatch and clean and jerk. Man. You might literally see somebody clean the jerk 600 pounds

nah come on that's way too much well Lasha's telling Scott he did damn near 580 yeah they broke all up when they done some some of them

lose a lot of weight I mean I'm curious to see what some of the records will look like but I don't know if they'll be ratified because you gotta be in a government sanctioned body for it to get ratified. Like if you run it,

let's just say somebody run nine, five, seven, they're not going to give them the record. No, I just want to see if somebody can even, even accomplish that with the enhanced, with enhanced.

I still believe Ocho. I'll go to my grave. Believe it. Had Usain Bolt not pulled up in the, in, in, in the last 10 meters I believe he might run sub

9.5 you gotta realize he started doing sideways 10 meters to go and ran 9.68 so just imagine because he was so excited just imagine had he had run through the line he was looking

I still believe it's gonna be a long time it might be a situation where through the line. Well, he was moving, boy. He was looking. I still believe it's going to be a long time. It might be a situation where just like Flojo's record is going to be safe for an extended period of time. Right. I don't believe anybody,

I don't believe anybody going 10, 50, 49. Ain't nobody going to beat Bo. I don't see anybody, man, ain't nobody been close. Ain. Man, ain't nobody been close. Ain't nobody been under 9'6". I mean, we hadn't had somebody go under 9'7".

Since Johan Blake and Tyson Gay. And that was 2008-2009. So think about where we are now. Nobody's even gone under... Has anybody gone on the nine, seven,

five. That was what was must watch TV. Yes. Man. I'm my dad. What's the pay? Is the pay going to be equivalent or is the pay going to be better than what it is?

You know, with the Olympics, because I don't, I mean, let me pay you than what it is you know with the Olympics because I mean I mean the Olympics ain't like the Olympic pay I mean your money for the Olympics is basically in sponsorship so you got to be somebody

like a Cindy McLaughlin or Noah Lyles because most of the most of the women men and women that compete that little stipend they get from the U.S. Olympic Committee

ain't really doing a whole lot Ochoa they need to make they need to fix that you got to work at you know you got other jobs you Home Depot or Lowe's or whatever,

you're in one of these programs or something like that. They need to fix that. They need to fix that. Because think about it, Ocho. Remember we had this conversation. What other country to plan for gold,

for gold medals and silver medals? Who was first? China, right? Was it China? Nah, there was just one country. Like, dude got a, like a condo, got a house.

Talking about taking care of your people. Yeah. That's crazy. Usain Bolt, royal record of 9.58. Johan Blake ran 9.69. Tyson Gay ran 9.69. Asafa Powell had the royal record of 9.72. Justin Gake ran 969 tyson gay ran 969 asafa powell had to wear a regular 972 justin gatlin's run 974 uh andre degrasse it was wind aided he ran 975 i don't believe nobody's run 975 in the last decade since those guys ran those not those 97 i mean that 9-5-8, 9-6-9, 9-6-9. I got a question too.

I've been seeing these high school kids out there in Houston. They keep talking about they ran 9-9. Mm-hmm. That boy, he from San Antonio, Tate. I'm not going to say. 9-9? 9-9-2. Hell, they got a kid in Georgia just ran 9-9-8.

Texas, they different a kid in Georgia who just ran 9.98. Texas, you know, Texas, they're different out there in Texas. Hell, I think in order to, you had to run sub 10.2 to get fifth place. But are they really that close to our elite athletes? Yes. You see the kid from,

you see the kid that went from Bullets in Maryland. He ran 44-20. Yes. Yes. These kids, they doing it now, Ocho. Well, listen.

Hey, they starting young, too. Yes. Just like guys play basketball and football at a young age, these kids start running and specializing at a very young age. Yeah. I had a guy I was talking to out here in Georgia, and he was like, man, you know,

we'll take eight, nine-year-olds when it comes to baseball. You got to start them about at three, four years old. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. You got to be able to see how to hit that curveball, that slider, that changeup.

Yeah. Because after you get to a certain age, get scared of the ball yeah so i got to get you young enough where you don't you you have no inhibitions right that's like people that you know people that handle snakes and things like that they start very very young when you don't have inhibitions where you like because if you if you just a, you take a two or three year old and put a snake down there, the first thing they're going to do is try to pick it up. Yeah.

Because they haven't been taught to fear it. Right, right, right. So I got to get you in a situation where you don't fear it. That's why you, if a kid want to, swimming,

what you do, you start them out young. They don't fear the water. Right. They have no comprehension of how dangerous the water is. They just, boom, go.

I'm just kidding. So, So when you play in baseball, I got to put you in a situation where you don't fear getting hit by the ball. Shit. Hey, that Curry ball damn sure make you feel like you about to get hit. Hey, you got to sit down.

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Neesmith made shots in prime time like it was once we all made in our childhood backyard hoops with no witness. Dude balled out. He absolutely did. Big shot after big shot after big shot. I don't know. Look, I don't know what he's going to do. That's right.

He's going to show them to the grandkids. I don't know if he got kids, but, hey, you say this one. You should make sure you get that game ball. Fourth quarter, you scored 20 points. Yeah. 20. 20. In a conference finals game.

And you ain't first, second, nor third option. Come on, man. Come on. It's possible. See how it's possible? So when I tell y'all I can come off the bench and score 28, you don't think that's possible? Nah, nah. Aim close. Alright, I'm just

saying that there's a small example of someone doing it. That man a professional athlete. He's a starting small forward for the Indiana Pacers. Who do you think I am? A ninja that's

talking on a ninja that's talking on YouTube. Who? Who? Hey, what I am? who think he can do everything I'm just saying I'm listening the nigga talking on YouTube but that was funny that was funny

JR908 said trash being thrown Stephen A alone, Knicks on the phone hello? faces in fire pity pad man what the hell what the hell

faces in fire New Jersey said What the hell? What the hell? Pacers in five. Fans, New Jersey said, New York Knicks Pacers playoff rivalry is one of the all-time in sports. Yeah. They normally come down to, you know, game five, and we see Reggie, when Reggie hit, scored all those points in that one moment,

and we see Patrick Ewing get a dunk put back, and then the following year, he missed the layup right at the cup. And it been good. Adab Smith said the most mixed way to lose. Because

you can feel the energy and excitement in Madison Square just by watching the game. They wanted to erupt. You could tell when they had that 14-point lead, Uncle Ocho. I could feel them celebrating over here

on this side. I could feel it. I knew that was happening. But boy, look, that lead started trickling down. And once I seen Indiana cut it to like 2-1,

I said, oh yeah. Yeah, it's a wrap. It's going to be, hey, they got a fighting chance. Boy. Kurt said, Isoo do you remember kobe gerald wallace combo kobe and gerald wallace yeah was he the kobe stopper

nah nah i didn't think so either nah well i thought it was bruce bowen was it bruce bowen it was like it was like uh uh what's his name his? Patterson. He played for the Blazers. They called him the Kobe Stopper. Kobe tore him up. Who else they used to call the Kobe Stopper? Man, you know, Gerald Wallace used to be, not Gerald Wallace, Gerald Wilkins, Dominique Brother. Dominique, yeah, yeah.

Was the Jordan Stopper. He wasn't the Jordan Stopper. Nobody was the Jordan Stopper. Age, cigars, and cognac was the Jordan Stopper. He wasn't a Jordan Stopper. Nobody was a Jordan Stopper. Age, cigars, and cognac was the Jordan Stopper. Because when he was in his prime, ain't nobody A. Wasn't nothing nobody could do

with him. Nothing. Nothing. Mikey Mike said, the best thing for SGA with that Supermax, Shea represents himself. All that money is his. Yeah. If you a guy that's goingGA with that Supermax, Shea represents himself all that money as he is if you a guy that's going to get the Supermax you really don't need an agent

nope, be fired because if you do your part on the court hey look, no matter who represents you they're going to give you the Supermax what do Ant-Man need an agent for? Ant-Man going to get the Supermax-Man's going to get the match. Supermax. Right.

Jokic is going to get the Supermax. And that's why I commend Lamar. Lamar and his mother for taking care of his contract. Yeah. And you don't need it. Don't use it. Kemper Norwood Jr. said, Oh, got the Knicks versus the Timberwolves in the NBA Finals. My question is, if you were the GM in the NFL,

who would you be your first overall pick? Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick, if you were the GM in the NFL, who would you be your first overall pick? Lamar Jackson, Michael Vick, or Cam Newton? Man. Who you picking first, Ocho? They asked you. They did ask you. Who put that on me?

Knowing what I know now, I would take Lamar. I would take Lamar, Cam, Mike. Two of the three number one overall picks. Right. Mike Vick was the number one overall pick

and Cam was an overall pick. And Lamar was 32. Yeah. Okay, hold you up. I was here playing for the Hawks when we had

the Mike Vick era. Yeah, the Mike Vick experience. Mike Vick experience. Listen, listen. I had, I had season tickets to the Falcons game, and man, let me tell y'all something.

It was nothing like it, brother. I already know. You had to be, and I tell people this all the time, Joe, you had to be there to witness it. Hey, it was, listen, what I'm talking about, because, you know, we would play sometime early Sunday game, 12-note, man, we'd be rushing out of there just to walk over to the arena to catch the Falcons play.

Hey, man, that was different, bro. Hey, that was different. He was special, man. Hey. Oh, Joe, check this out. We got a little video, a little something. I was doing a little something. I put it together.

Joe, tell me what you think, Joe. Let me see what you got going on. Come on, set it up. He ain't doing nothing but making love to them 60s. Oh, them only 60s? Kilos, yeah. Hold on a minute. How much that is?

What, it's 127? I mean, 132. Same time you hit that. That's 132 pounds, Joe. All right,. I'm gonna make me a video in the morning. I'll show you I Don't know how many how many times did I hit that Joe you? That was seven off. We hit it. That was seven. Okay Hey, okay. There it is. We go see it one

two Three Four One, two, three, four. Okay, but eight. I got eight. You know what I'm saying? Don't sleep on no shade, dog. All right. Don't sleep on no shade.

Yeah. All right. I don't move fast like I used to. But, hey, as long as you got some motion. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. As long as you got some motion. That little something, little something,

I just say it, don't you? Yeah. Now, that's 232. That's 264 pounds. Now, if you don't give me my money you gonna see that strength again are you talking to me Ocho oh you gotta when you're talking you gotta address the person you're talking to you ain't say no name the person ob5200 that's turning to 5900 if you don't pay me my money, you're going to see that strength again. I like that.

I like that. Okay, check this out, Ocho. Casey Taylor says, speaking of competition, Uncle Ocho, too many NFL quarterbacks running back wide receivers. Who would you want to compete on the U.S. flag football, a tournament with NFL players making their own team, professional flag? If the NFL played a professional flag football team, they're going to lose.

And get their ass whooped. I don't know why y'all think y'all figure y'all can just take these guys just because these guys are professional football players. These guys play professional flag football. There's a difference. And for the hundredth time, if you take a professional flag football team and you take the best nfl players against that flag football team and they played a hundred times

the flag football team will annihilate the nfl players a hundred goddamn times best ones every time yes that's just like saying that's just like saying, that's just like saying, the University of Florida, because they won the national championship, oh, they'll beat the worst NBA team. You and I both know that ain't happening. That ain't happening. We, oh Joe, how many times we go through this?

Man, Alabama won. Man, Alabama beat the Cleveland Browns. Alabama beat the Jags. Alabama get their ass toast. Slam up. I don't know what y'all, I don't know what y'all thinking, but ain't no college beating no professional football team. I don't think no college beating no professional football team.

But when you say flag football, and y'all tell me you give some of the top guys in the NFL, give them a little time so they can gain some chemistry. We're not speaking right now. We're not doing. They're just going out there and playing. They're going out there and playing. The nuances, the nuances of the flag

football game, which the NFL players aren't used to, and the way those that play flag football can manipulate the game because they know the advantages that they have. NFL players ain't winning that. I don't care how fast, how strong.

That don't got nothing to do with the game of flag football. No. The advantages that they have on Sundays at one o'clock, they don't matter in flag football. Data.

Ojo, look what I got, Ojo. What's that, what? It's the 56th annual NAACP Image Award, Outstanding Podcast, Society and Culture, Club Shea Shea, Shea Shea Media, Shannon Sharp. Well, damn. Congratulations. Congratulations. Are you anything to say congratulations?

Is there anything to say your boy want? Ojo. What? That's all I got, Ojo. Right. Another one for me. Ocho. What? That's all I got, Ocho. Right. So... Another one for me. Look, they're going to send us our Webby award, Ocho.

We're going to get our Webbys. Hey, hold on. When... Oh, we missed it? Yes. Damn. I wanted to go up there and say I fucking love you again. Hey, I got an email over here.

You do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an email. Where your You do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got an email. Where your email at? It's upstairs. Okay. Ocho. Yeah.

Okay. What's that? That for me. What it look like, Ocho? Hey, how you got that? Don't worry about it. And that's beach high? I don't know.

You tell me. Yeah, but it must be. Hey, well, that's nice. Where you get that? You reached out to my school or something? Ocho, I ain't bothering nobody. I'm in my home. No, but I'm trying to understand How you got my high school jersey

Why you worried about it? I paid for it They sent it to me Who sent it to you? Ocho, you ain't getting no residuals from that? Hall of the High Tides Is that the name of your team? Is that the name of your team?

The High Tides? Hey, Joe, you know who all went to school with me? Who? Samari Rowe You know, that's my little cousin. Oh, really? Dwayne Starks. Dwayne Starks went there, too.

Terry Cousins. Remember Terry Cousins, Coach? Yeah. Yeah. All of us was on the same team. I was the baby. Joe. Hey, but send me them jerseys so I can frame them.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa I can put them in my garage put them it's 5900 you can get them can y'all oh y'all can see it I just want you

y'all can see the image of war yeah you can see it you can see it I just want you to see the image of war yeah you can see it you can see it hey I listen you keep it all the wars

I ain't got no wars look all I got is the nightcap sign hey he gonna get you right on Joe yeah what happened to the camera Joe I'm blurry oh that came back it came back.

It came back. Yeah. Yeah, that better. I like that right there. I like that right there. You heard me out? What at? You got all the awards behind you because you won't send me none.

Look at me. You got your awards. Where they at? Where they at? Where they at? I don't know what you did with the awards. All I got is a black wall. I don't know what you did with your award

but you got the webby just like I got the webby as a matter of fact you took the webby that night matter of fact you know what I think I know where my award is at so can you call and tell them to send me my shit

you're not finna get me involved in your bull jive. Ain't no bull jive. You just said not to ask for nothing back. I was, so I would need your help in extending that grace. You got your plaque? Your million subscriber plaque?

Yeah, they took that too. You got the 100,000 subscriber plaque? She took that too. you got the hundred thousand subscriber plat she she took that she took that too uh you got the signal award the synopsis award you got the synopsis award yeah yeah okay you got everything you got everything that i got that i want that we just explained to you that they and and and we got three more webbies damn well hey uh just just to you that they... And we got three more Webbys. Damn.

But hey, just do me that favor. Do me that grace and I'll make that call and have them ship it to you and then you ship it to me. She right down the street. Oh, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Richard Smalls, 2320 says start bench cut

Unk Gronk Kelsey start Kelsey bench Gronk I'm gone that was a good order that was a good

that was a good order yeah I ain't got no problem with that I'm a star nah hell nah I'm a star Unk I'm a bench Gronk

I'm a cut Kelsey I'm kidding about it that's my dog you know what I'm a star Unk. I'm a Benji Gronk. I'm a Cut Kelsey. I'm kidding about it. That's my dog, you know what? I'm star at onk. Shit. What you talking about? Trey Scott said,

what are y'all undisputed goats like Bolt and Phelps? They ain't no like no goat and Phelps. That man got all them damn gold medals. That man got 23 gold medals. Ain't nobody doing that again. Ain't nobody doing that. I mean, the only person that's close is Larissa Latina the great Soviet gymnast

ain't nobody going to get them that many medals ain't nobody going to stick around that long and swim in that many events right no you want to say Simone Biles okay in gymnastics Simone Biles all those world championships she's got You want to say Simone Biles? Okay, gymnastics, Simone Biles.

All those world championships she's got moves named after. Some of the moves that she's done, they've outlawed. Jaime Lopez, the great Greco-Roman wrestler from Cuba. Who's won I mean I mean for Bo to win gold medal I mean first of all there's only two men that's ever won I mean he had the record he had the gold given to him because

Ben Johnson tested positive but prior to that no man had ever won back to back gold medals in the hundred he tripled he three peated no man had ever won back-to-back gold medals in the 100. He tripled. He three-peated. No man had ever won back-to-back gold in the 200.

He three-peated. And he won three golds in the four-by-one. One guy rescinded because a guy tested positive. But, I mean, gold, I mean, bolt is... Bolt.

Bolt. But, I mean, go, I mean, Boat is, Boat. Boat. And Phelps, it ain't close. I mean, what are we talking about here? Q Ziegler said, Ocho ain't paying yet. Can this $4.99 go towards it? Ocho, you want me, he putting $5 towards your debt. $4.99 go towards it. You won't be. He won. He put $5 towards your debt.

I appreciate that. Matter of fact, if the whole chat, if he had the whole chat contribute $5, $5, $20. I mean, I can think it'd be, it can be paid off by tonight. If it were to happen?

I'm saying the shack contributed $20 to the Ocho fund to pay Unk. No, you gonna pay Unk. I know, but the chat is not... Oh, see, there you go. You sound like that pastor talking about you gonna close the chat off until they start

donating, but close the chat. Close the chat close the chat dr frankie m bellamy doc how you doing hey fam my husband completed his last treatment for prostate cancer today oh i know you remember this journey all too well i do when when i tell you god is good that's a truly an understatement. Man, please get your checkups. Absolutely. Absolutely. Go get your colonoscopies. If you have a history,

I started getting tested when I was 35 because of my family history. And whew, got it tested. I got tested like a month before I was supposed to go out to work at Fox, undisputed. I got tested in July. As a matter of fact,

my results came back like a week before I was supposed to go. I had the surgery in 2017. It's a little, it gets a little going through TSA because I still got those pellets inside, those lead pellets inside of me. But, Doc, I understand what you said. When you say God is good, going through TSA, because I still got those pellets inside, those lead pellets inside of me, but...

Doc, I understand what you're saying. When you say God is good, he ain't good, he great. Mm-hmm. Tell me about it. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. What an exciting game. Down 14 with under three minutes to go.

The Indiana Pacers come back and tied in regulation and went into the overtime by the score of 138 135 tyrese halliburton and aaron neesmith played sensational the entire team played really well they didn't turn the ball over they turned the nicks over and every big play that every every clutch shot and big play they need to make down the stretch, they made it. They snatch home court after one game. Can they get game two on Friday? We'll find out. But the Indiana Pacers are 1-0 in the NBA Eastern Conference Finals.

Thank you, guys, for watching another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite Uncle Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host, Liberty City's own Bengal Ring of Fame Monterey Pro Bowler, All Pro, that's Chad Ochocinco Johnson. And Discuss All Things Basketball

is our contributor extraordinaire. We want to thank him again, Joe, for coming on with us, Arkansas Little Rock alum, a native, excuse me, University of Arkansas alum, that's ISO Joe, that's Joe Johnson.

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