Nightcap - Nightcap- Hour 2: Elliott says no to Rodgers, Sweat wants SB MVP, Saquon’s SB chain

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week. Topics include Steelers safety DeShon Elliott doesn’t want Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia Eagles LB Josh Sweat says he should have won Super Bowl MVP, Unc and Ocho admire Saquon Barkley’s new diamond encrusted chain and much more!03:56 - DeShon Elliott doesn’t want Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh13:54 - A warning to the Bengals from Joe Burrow?22:00 - Bills running back James Cook wants a $15 million extension24:06 - Josh Sweat says he should have earned Super Bowl MVP31:40 - Travis Kelce might leave the Chiefs38:19 - Unc and Ocho check out Saquon Barkley’s new chain(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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writing, leave his ass at the retirement home. I mean, listen, when you pull the stuff you pulled during the offseason, when you pull the stuff you pulled while you were there, you know, Players see that. They don't want no part of that. Did you see what was being reported?

The stipulations that they gave him in order to come back to Green Bay? You see those stipulations? No. No more Pat McAfee. Many camps. Be here. Walk in. camps be here wow the Jets told Aaron Rogers he couldn't appear on the Pat McAfee

show anymore if he wanted to be the net it'd be if he wanted to be with the Jets next season per Diana Rossini she plugged in she like Jane Slater at the Cowboys she like Mary Kay Cabot with the Jets next season per Diana Rossini. She plugged in. She's like Jane Slater at the Cowboys. She's like Mary Kay Cabot with the Browns. When they speak, I really listen.

I perk up to what they say. I was told that when the Jets had the conversation with Aaron Rodgers about what the future would look like, if you're going to be a part of this team, you're going to attend all of training camp. You're not going to do the Pat McAfee interviews anymore. They had a conversation with him. If you're going to attend all of training camp. You're not going to do the Pat McAfee interviews anymore.

They had a conversation with him. If you're going to stay here, here's how we want it to be. So this is me. It's Aaron Glenn getting control back. I love it. I like it too. I like it too. I like it too.

Now listen, if the Pat McAfee show was conducive to the Jets in helping in any way with winning, if it wasn't in the scene in a negative light, matter of fact, if you were performing the way you should be performing, if you were the Aaron Rodgers of old, you can go talk to goddamn Glenn Beck for all I care. You can talk to Fox, you can talk to CNN. If you were playing on Sundays and being productive

and being the Aaron Rodgers of old, I wouldn't care who you talk to. You could be at the Playboy Mansion on your off day. But it just wasn't right. You're losing on the field. You're playing bad on the field. And you're doing a show that's causing controversy and conflict. Creating chaos.

And then your performance isn't where it should be. Yeah. It's just tough, Ocho. It's tough when you play that position and guys see you doing – because normally the quarterback's locked in. Oh, yeah. Normally. Especially those level quarterbacks.

And Aaron Rodgers was that level of quarterback. He was a Peyton Manning. He was a Tom Brady. He was that Breeze. He was that level of quarterback. And normally those quarterbacks is a singular focus and they're there at minicamp no distractions none none and then you can't create a distraction and then get mad when people talk about said distraction. Yeah. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute.

You wrecked the car and then you made the people stop and looking at you as the cars turned over side the road. You did it. That's a good one. That's what I didn't, that's what I didn't understand about him.

He talk about, we got to block out the noise, but it's him beating on the bucket in the hallway. He creating the we got to block out the noise. But it's him beating on the bucket in the hallway. He creating the noise that we hear. What didn't he see about that?

Right. But see, four-time MVP, you know, you get seduced by your own success. And so you's like, hey, damn, what's in the best interest of the team? What's in the best interest of me? Most top tier quarterbacks

don't think like that. They don't. All I can say is the quarterbacks of his era. You think Brady thought like that? You thought Manning

thought like that? Freeze. You look at Mahomes now every week Ocho I can see you know hey as a favor to you payback I like you I like what you stand for bro I'm gonna come on your show once but every week

right that's a tough one that's a that's a real tough one and i'm telling you guys look at stuff like that yeah oh they're watching they're watching go look listen to when when when brady went to tampa what i did in new england ain't got is to do with what I'm about to do in Tampa. Peyton Manning said what I did in Indy, but that's not how he thought. He's like, hey, what did he say at the end of the season?

If my resume isn't good enough, he said it. Now, if it's a lie, he said it. Y'all heard him. The thing that I love so much about sports is that you must update that resume on a weekly basis he's standing on what i've already done should be enough to allow me to be going any situation i want to and do it how i want to right jesse nah we cool moving forward it's gonna be

it's gonna be our way oh yeah my way or trail way and I think trail way and Greyhound merged didn't it so they even one bus up out of town just go all in so you know what?

My last year, I'm about to be 41. If he's not already 41, I'm going to see what I got won last year. I'm going to lock everything out. I ain't going to be on none of this bull jive about the government doing this and U.S.

foes and ivermectin and whatever the case may be. All I'm thinking about is all football. Because I promise you, you're closer to the end than the beginning. Promise you that. And for a guy to have that

many MVPs and has only been to one Super Bowl, you can make a case that hey, with two, three Super Bowls on show, now we'd have been having a conversation with him.

He'd have gone, he'd have been right there with Roger. I mean, with Brady. Four MVPs. Four. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, look, I think that's the thing that I respect most yeah I mean look I think that's the thing that I respect most about like the great how bought in they are and I use it like

in football I term you look at a Brady basketball you look at a LeBron you look at a Kobe that's it right that is it.

Yeah. All the reasons were different. They were locked in not only for themselves, but they laid by example for everybody else. And they set the standard. They set the standard, this is how you want to be great. If you want to be great, you don't have to be me, but you can do the things I do. If you fall short, you're still going to fall somewhere under the line of greatness. Discipline.

It all comes down to discipline. That's in everything we do. You don't even have to be in sports. You don't even have to be in sports. Just in life in general, you will get the results if you lock in and you have any small amount of discipline.

That's all it takes. Yeah. And you know, there's got to be something wrong with you, too. They get up and do the same thing over and over and over and over and over until it becomes a habit. Greatness is boring. Greatness is boring. It's a monotonous trait because you're doing the same thing over and over, hoping for the same result.

What do you think Brady did in the offseason? Did you hear him tell the story about when he played Kansas City in that Super Bowl? He was so locked in. He knew what they were going to do before they knew what they were going to do? What they do, yeah. How much film do you think, Peyton, offseason? You hear Ray Lewis say, well, if I want to beat Peyton, Oh, off-season. You hear Ray Lewis say, well, if I want to beat Peyton,

if I want to beat Tom, I got to watch as much film as they watch. I got to be as locked in as they are. I think the thing is that when you hear people talk about those guys, one of the first things outside of how great they were is leadership. What are you talking about, Tom Brady? What are you talking about? Leadership. Talk about those guys. One of the first things outside of how great they were is leadership.

What are you talking about, Tom Brady? What are you talking about? Leadership. Talk about Ray Lewis. Talk about might be the greatest team sport leader in the history. You hear Peyton. You hear certain guys that that word just automatically rolls off people's tongues. Right.

Rodgers is 41. But if I was him and I was gonna come back I'm going all in I'm gonna empty the tank I'm gonna empty the tank got one more year I got I got nine months

and then after that I got the rest of my life to do whatever I want hey P-Mac you got me a job hey P-Mac you got me a job cause I

I'm about to come I'm about to job. Because I'm about to come. I'm about to come every Tuesday. I'm about to be on your show. Yeah. You can do as many shows as you want to. You can go as many dark retreats as you want to. But if you haven't done it in this long. It's hard.

The chance of doing it now out the blue. Yeah. It ain't. Joe Burrow is projected to have a $46.3 million cap in 2025. Well, Joe, the Bengals are projected to have almost $46 million in cap space. But that is before signing the necessary players

to start the season in addition to the incoming draft class. Burrow also referenced the Eagles, who've been able to sign multiple players to veteran deals despite also giving quarterback Jalen Hurts a huge contract. That puts him among the league's highest-paid players. The Cincinnati quarterback praised the way Philly treated the salary cap to build a championship-caliber team. The Eagles are paying everybody. That seems, the way Philly treated the salary cap to build a championship caliber team. The Eagles

are paying everybody. That seems like the way. Whatever they're doing. Was this the best? Was this a shot at the Bengals organization? I wouldn't say it's a shot at the Bengals organization. I'd say it's a message to the

organization on look how they did things, look how they're doing things. They're able to have a team like that, have everybody together, have everybody happy, and still able to function and compete for a title. I think we need to take, like I say it all the time, we are a copycat. We copy what they're doing. We need to copy what they're doing

and keep our band together, one band, one sound, so we can compete the same goddamn way. But you're going to have to let some people go. You see a LeJarius Sneed, he had to go. You see Gabe, he had to go. You see Wiley, he ended up leaving. You know what I'm saying?

Don't you know what I mean? Think about it. They traded Tyreek. They're probably going to lose Trey Smith. Yeah. You can't keep everybody. Okay. The core.

Can we keep. Mahone was obviously is a non-negotiable. We kept Trav. We kept Chris Jones. Right. We drafted well. We got McDuffie. Call off this.

Hit a couple in free agency. But the problem is, is that you let... Jamar Chase is not giving you a discount. He... We know that. You made him play it out. And the guy hit the triple crown. He got the triple crown.

You're going to have to pay him $40 million. Yeah. Well, you could have had him. We could have had him. Okay, you could have paid him $35,000, $36,000. But now he's going to want $40,000 plus. Yeah, then we chose to play hardball. And T. Higgins.

Yeah. But if you notice, look what they did to Devontae. Before his contract came up, they redid it. We got him done on purpose. Now, the Eagles, they're probably not going to be able to sign Josh Sweat. He has some interesting comments. I don't know if you saw what he said. I don't know what we're talking about.

Hopefully, we do. But look, they're doing a great job. They got some guys. You look at DeJuan and you got Mitchell. They're on rookie deals. Jalen Carter, rookie deal. N'Kobe Dean, rookie deal. Jalen Carter, rookie deal. N'Kobe Dean, rookie deal.

Nolan Smith Jr., rookie deal. Jordan Davis, rookie deal. See? They got a good chance, but they got a good chance of running back.

And then, offensive line, got him locked up. Saquon, got him locked up. Jalen Hurts, he's also locked up. See?

He's looking good. He looks real good. He looks real good. Dang. But that's what you have to do. You have to have guys that, hey, they want to be there, want to get locked in. Yeah. I'm a firm believer. I'm a firm

believer that the Eagles are built they got another two years two three years they got another two three years Jalen Carter hey Jalen Carter's gonna get a big contract he's a preeminent D tackle in the football right

yeah Nolan Smith he might be undersized but he was destroying those pulling guards. I mean, he can't weigh more than 230. But boy, boy, he was a headache. Mm-hmm. Because I, ooh, he was dropping the ham on folks.

But I, look, Joe's like, bro, almost 5,000 yards is fine 43 touchdowns is fine, bro. I'm home with stats like this Yeah, we got a triple crown winner. That's home That cannot happen again Absolutely. It is damn sure it'll happen on my watch So if they could if they can get it if they can get it absolutely and then I'm sure it's going to happen on my watch so if they can get it if they can get it

you know rework his contract get Chase but if I'm Chase I can't do the first one now hey Joe the second one hey but I'm finna take a big ass bite of this apple yeah I'm gonna take a big bite of this apple. Yeah. I'm going to take a big bite of this apple, Ocho.

Mm-hmm. And I just got a feeling, Ocho, somebody's going to throw so much money. Football players don't turn down $40 million. Baseball players don't turn down $40 million. Basketball players turn that down. It's like, hey, I want to be in a better situation. I'm going to be such-and-such.

Yada, yada, yada. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm. Not football, because the money's not guaranteed. situation. I'm going to be such and such. Not football because the money is not guaranteed. I can't turn down for 49. What? And then I don't get no lifetime health benefits. And you know, a medical expenses eat up. Yours or a family member, wife, kids, eat up a savings.

Retirement. Oh, no, I got to get all that, Ocho. I got to get every last, I got to get every last dime that they promised me. I'm sorry. Because T was a second round pig, Ocho. So he didn't get that,

he didn't get that first down, you know, that 15, $20 million guarantee. Listen, I said it before and I'll say it again. He needs and deserves every dime.

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As a running back. Well, hold on that. That puts him up in the upper echelon now with McCaffrey, with the Derrick Henrys, with the Saquon Park ones. Saquon is about 13 and a half.

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that's what he said come on come on come on what's up buddy you just could not stay out you just could

what'd they do twin you just could not we gonna get our show you hear me you wanna do a show with Ocho say what's it gonna be called what's my pay?

Are you paying me a farmer's dog or what? I just really don't know what you're paying me in. Not no tennis balls because I don't play no fetch. I don't want those little,

I don't want those little players. Hmm? Old Yella 2.0. Yeah. You should be in the bed. Why are you still up at 12 o'clock I mean at 10 o'clock

yeah Ocho 15 that's a lot hold on he's an intricate yes yes very important part of the offense. Yes. Yeah, he's a very important piece of that offense now.

But 15 is a little... You know what? Who am I to say it's too much? If you want 15, you get you 15. Are they going to pay you 15? Ask for 15 and they're probably going to lay him on 12. Yeah. I'm just being honest, aren't you?

I'm just being honest. I like Brother Cook. I do too. I like the way he, Ocho. I just be an artist. I like Brother Cook. I do, too. I like the way he think. Go a little high, they're going to bring it low. And when they bring it low, they're going to shoot you right where you want to be. Aim for the stars, land on the moon. Yeah, talk to me, man.

I'm with you. I'm putting up with you putting me down. Ocho, the Eagles defensive end, Josh Wett, had one of the all-time best defensive performances in Super Bowl history. He did not become the 11th Defensive Player of the Year, including co-Defensive Player of the Year, Harvey Martin and Randy White,

when they beat the Brakes out of the Broncos and the Superdome. Jalen Hurts instead won that award for the 34th time a quarterback has been the MVP in 59 Super Bowls. The NFL no longer announces the places of the other finishes, so it is unknown if Sweat even finished second. I should have had it, Sweat said. I could have had it.

It's all good, though. Ocho, you like him saying this? I mean it's cool I understand it he had a hell of a performance he was a big reason big part

of their success defensively so I I totally get it but you know in the grand scheme of things the quarterback

had one hell of a game and he's a reason why they were able to win that game. He's the reason why they were able to win that game. Obviously defensively they gave Mahomes hell. They beat that offensive lineup so bad I felt bad. I felt bad for Mahomes

around that second second quarter, third quarter. The way he just kept getting hit. The relentless that second, second, second quarter, third quarter, the way he just kept getting hit. The relentless pressure all game, not allowing him to breathe, supplicating him the entire time. No, I've been

very few times I've seen Mahomes with happy feet in the pocket, uncomfortable, not being able to drop back, not being able to go through his reads, not being able to go through his reads, not being able to go through his progressions. Like they did that one hell of a job. But Jalen Hurts, he deserved that MVP.

I just, you won the Super Bowl. You won the Super Bowl. And you're complaining about, see, you're complaining about an individual award. Yeah, I mean, listen, he played well. Now, he wouldn't have won no goddamn Lawrence Taylor-type performance now. Let's not go there.

I mean, what, did he have two and a half sacks? He played really well. But I'm like, bro, now? It's too soon. Too soon. Maybe 10 years from now, y'all sitting on the porch man y'all know I should have won

I should have been Super Bowl MVP look at that I say that then not now Ocho yeah but even still you're not winning

that award over a quarterback especially not when they played that well yeah I guess I guess he like I ain't coming back, so I'm going to say anything to make sure I don't come back, Ocho.

Coach GM Chris Ballard says Anthony Richardson hasn't proven that he can play a full 17-game season and that the team needs to add another quarterback to compete with him. Ocho, you like what the PM said? Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, you like what he said? Absolutely. Listen, I like Chris Baller. Light a fire up on the young bull. Light a fire up on him.

I like him now saying that. Obviously, you taking a knee, taking yourself out of the game, you already know what you need to do. I hope Anthony Richardson doesn't take this to heart. I hope he doesn't take it as disrespect. This is merely just a challenge. Let me go and show you that I can play a full 17-game season without getting injured.

Let me show you I'm the quarterback of the future. Let me show you I'm your franchise quarterback. Let me show you. Please do me a favor and bring somebody in to compete for my job. Watch me raise my level of play. I have no problem with competition. At all. Now this is me speaking.

I like it. I love it. I'm not sure how he's going to react to it. Normally, when you have a veteran quarterback, you don't want to bring in another presence that can challenge them. A la Ben Roethlisberger. A la Aaron Rodgers getting upset with Jordan Love coming in.

A la Brett Favre getting upset when Aaron Rodgers came in. But as a young bull, as a young pup, this is a challenge. You have to take that challenge and take that bull. He brought this on himself. Take that bull by the horn. Yeah, I understand. I understand.

And he understands. I hope he understands. You think they're bringing it? I like the challenge. I wish you. Who you want? Bring it, man. They're bringing it? I like the challenge. I wish you... Who you want? Bring it, man. They're bringing a challenger for Jay Daniels?

They're bringing a challenger for Bo Nix? What about Kevin Williams? Game for the fine. Game for the fine. CJ Brown. Game for the fine, man. Check it. So he brought it on himself.

Let me tell you something. Hey, hold on. He brought it on himself, but let me tell you something. Them boys like you just named, boy, they ain't falling off the tree like that Them apples not falling off the tree like that Isn't that what Anthony Richardson was supposed to be? Oh, he is

He'll get it together Don't do him like that Don't do him like that I understand what you're saying There's certain things he shouldn't be doing There's certain things he shouldn't have done That's my only point That's why GM is saying this.

But GM, you know better. You know what you got on your hands. Maybe this is your way of getting him in line. Maybe this is your way of getting the best out of him. I don't have no problem with it at all. Challenge me. But of all the guys, he had the most question marks

coming out of Joe. Now, he's a physical specimen. Yeah. Rocket arm. Can run through tackles. Can run over people. Run, yeah. I think he needs to redefine some of

that touch. Because he throws everything like you're trying to throw it through the eye of a hurricane. Throws a good deep ball. I mean, he needs some touch. But he had the most red flags when it came. Not his behavior, but just his own field play. Right.

And so, hopefully, he's like, you know what? I'm going to show these. Yeah. I'm going to show these. Yeah. I'm going to show them what I would. You drafted me with the number four pick overall for a reason. I'm going to show you why. Come in in great shape, study. Hey, I'll devote two hours a day.

I'll go back and look at every game. Every game we play, I devote two hours a day to that in the offseason. And I'm going to look at some of the other quarterbacks. Hey, Coach, who do you think I should look at? Let me look at some of Brady's tape.

Let me look at some of Peyton Manning's tape. Let me look at some of Bree's tape. Let me look at some of Roethlisberger's tape. You know, I think it would be

more conducive for him based on his style of play to watch players that were more like him. Who? Watching players tape that don't play like you, I don't think it does you no justice. Who plays like him? Oh, you were going to say Lamar? O'Kam? O'Kam? O'Kam.

Yeah, man. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. But you know what? I'm studying. What I'm studying, Ocho, is what they see and how so quickly they recognize and get the ball out. Okay, okay, okay. I ain't looking at no footwork.

Hell nah. He ain't got no footwork like that. But I'm just looking to see how fast they can process information and get rid of the football, recognize it, and react. Yes, sir. Ocho, the Chiefs may be forced to release Travis Kelsey this offseason due to an almost $20 million cap hit. This would be the highest cap hit for a tight end in the entire league,

given that Kelsey at times struggled this year to get open and to create separation. Ocho, is this the end of Travis Kelsey, who I believe is the gold tight end, and his relationship with the Chiefs? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Obviously, you know, Patrick Mah uh obviously you know pastor mahomes you know kelsey and all other players that are part of that team that are going to be there next year not those that are on a one-year deal travis kelsey's a team player he's

a team player and he's making so much money off the field he's not going to have a problem taking the pay cut he's not gonna have a problem doing that because he's going to make up for whatever he, whatever he doesn't get off the field because he has so much going on. Listen, this is the same situation with Tom Brady. Who was Tom Brady dating when he was taking pay cuts in the wing and to make sure they kept the team around him. Yeah, but he ain't married to Taylor yet.

He might as well go and propose then if he was that type. Trust me, he good. Trust me, he good. He's dating a billionaire. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I think, I don't know. I think he

has no worries. He has so many endeavors going on off the field. He does. I have no problem. I'm a team player. I'm a team player. To come back, to keep the band together, to be able to get some other key off-season acquisitions, I have no problem doing that. And coming back and giving this thing another go.

He can do that. So he's not one that's hurting. So he'll be fine. I can see him going to Hollywood. He has that look. He has that swag. I can see him parlaying what he's been able to do in football on the field and parlaying that off the field.

He has that. The question is, Ocho, as you get older, Travis is flying all over the place. He wants to be with the lady of love of his life. He's going to have to make a decision how important is football to him. You can't go out like this. This can't be the last taste. This can't be the last taste in your mouth.

Hell, it might be getting worse. Not a game like this, not like that. Oh, Joe, the thing is about sports, it's funny how sports work. Because everybody's like, you can't go out like that. And then you come back and it's worse this last time. You're like, well, I can't go out like that. And then you come back and it's worse this last time. You're like, well, I can't go out and it just keeps getting worse and worse. There's no guarantee. It's not a situation where you get

like a John Elway. I win a championship, Super Bowl MVP, I'm done. Or Michael Strahan. They win, they take down the Giants. I'm excuse me, the Giants take down the Patriots. Patriots. Right. The bus. The Super Bowl is the Giants, take down the Patriots. Patriots. Right.

The bus. The Super Bowl is in Detroit. He's from Detroit. Detroit. The bus stops here. So it's not always like that. We don't always get that Hollywood ending, although we might want that Hollywood ending.

The question is, is that I think he's going to have to sit down and ask himself, how much more do I want to give? What do I have? Because let me ask you a question, Ocho. He comes back. What can he do that's going to change the perception of what you think of Travis Kelsey? Me personally, I think he's the go-tie to him.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure what's going to change. I just know and understand the chemistry and continuity that him and Patrick Mahomes have. Patrick Mahomes having that security blanket, obviously when they bolster and get that offensive line together,

I think things will be a little bit more easy for him. The chemistry and the continuity obviously between the crew. Noah Gray, Xavier Worthy is going to be back. I'm not sure about Hollywood. I'm not sure about Hollywood Brown

and DeAndre Hopkins but whatever other pieces they bring into that table and I know that game left a bad taste in everyone's mouth including Travis Kelsey and I definitely believe

he's not going to want to go out like that I believe it's one thing to lose but but bail to to A-double-S that's not what they want. I'm not going to I believe in order for him to come back to Ocho,

he's going to have to take a pay cut. He's going to have to take a sensible pay cut. I don't think he'll have a problem with that. He ain't going to have no problem doing that. You say that. We say that because it's not our money. I mean, listen, just understanding how much he has going on, understanding the individuality.

Listen, if this comes out, knowing... I mean, does Taylor Swift look like the type of woman? Anyway. Oh, baby, they want you to take a pay cut? So from $20 million to $10? You know what? Here you go with the $10 they're going to take from you.

She look like that type. Just cut your $10 million check right there on the spot. That's just me. Okay. You know, God loves the cheerful gifle yeah ooh bang made for this mountain

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after winning the Super Bowl. The 26th pendant, that's over 200 calories. Okay, I like that. That's Benny the Jeweler. Benny the Jeweler, Benny the Jeweler, nice now. Yeah, I like that. That's Benny the Jeweler. Benny the Jeweler, nice now. Yeah, I think he had a... I see a lot of celebs. I went on his page today.

I checked him out. I think Cardi B is purchasing pieces from him. I think Usher got his U-piece from him. Hey, Benny the Jeweler, if you see this, I need a pinky ring. I need a pinky ring for April, baby. Holla at your boy. I need a pinky ring. I need a pinky ring for April, baby. Holla at your boy. I need a good deal.

I need something nice. Something real nice and God. Something nice and God. You hear me? Oh, oh. I know that thing. That's about 200, three, two, three, four. No, no, no, no, no.

Not that much. Not that much. Not that much. I mean, that's about maybe, maybe about 90, 120, maybe about 90,120. You know? I ain't got it. I ain't got it. I ain't got it.

Oh, you got it. Oh, you got it. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. Hey, Chad, y'all send Benny the jeweler. Tell him I need a pinky ring, man. I need a pinky ring for the tour.

No, just a Holla, holla I tell you what You get that better than a jeweler piece I'm going to get me one of those Tom Brady watches Well, I'm just getting a pinky ring That's all No, that's $800,000 You don't need that

You don't even wear diamonds What did you talk about? I don't need that Y'all better stop. Y'all feel that, too? Okay. Okay, I see you. I see you.

Y'all see that right there? Look at that. Hey, you can't have money, boy. You see that right there? That's that Tiffany, that new thing that just came out for Tiffany. Wait, what? I can't.

It looks just plain, though. What is it? They play. It got joints. Oh, I see them. I see them. Wait, what? I can't... It looks just plain, though. What is it? It ain't plain. It got... Oh, I see them. I see them. Baguettes. Oh, it's different on each side.

Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You know something? I picked up for myself a criminal. You know, I like a little criminal gear. A little criminal gear. It ain't even Christmas, boy. It looks like what I got it for criminal. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Cribble gill. Little Cribble gill here and there. It ain't even Christmas, boy. It looks like what I got it for Cribble.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. I got it for Cribble. That's it. That's it. I'm out of gas now. Hey, speaking of holidays, listen, Valentine's Day coming up. Boy, you got your Valentine's Day? I know you guys are Ocho.

Oh, I saw a real little humble band. Ocho said, man, Ocho one time picked me up in a helicopter. Oh, yeah. Hey, I don't play. I don't play Oh, yeah. Hey, I don't play. Oh, yeah, I don't play. I don't play. When it comes to holidays, like, if we...

I don't play. I don't play. A lot of times, I don't... Helicopters, you know, Sharpest Breeze, you know, we do Chanel store. Now, see, this is the problem, huh?

We ain't together right now. So, I'm not... You still got to do it, though. Huh? You got... Huh? What happened? Hey, Ocho, you still got to do that, now, though? You got, huh? What happened? Hey, Ocho, you still got to do that now, though.

I got to do that? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Timeout. Chat, y'all with me? Yeah, because you said she still help you with your stuff.

Oh, yeah. Now, listen. Listen. I have a question. Now, chat, y'all listen to me. I have businesses, you know, stuff that's going on away from nightcap, away from football. She keeps everything in order for me because I got going on. I got 50, 11 jobs. So she keeps all my ducks in a row.

So I'm able to travel and things are in order. Well, you got to break up. You got to break off. Okay. Now, how much of the breaking off do I do as far as going out, going out and doing things? At least, at bare minimum. Talk to me. At bare minimum, 10 to 15.

$1,500? 10 to 15. You know five. On Valentine's? Yeah. Even though she left me now i understand her taking care of my business and making sure everything's straight despite us not being together but you think yeah chat what y'all think that would i would listen i remember one time not

too long ago i went out to about when it was rough I'm talking about when it just happened I tweeted out I needed an assistant because I thought well damn I got all this stuff going on if she's out the picture I ain't gonna be able to do all that

and obviously she like you know what still doing all that I'm still gonna make sure everything is okay and she's done that to date

yeah I mean I'm look if I tell you I'm gonna do something I was seeing this I was seeing this chick one time, Mojo, and her girlfriend was going to get married, but it was going to be a destination wedding. And so she's like, man, I'm not going to. I said, look, I'll pay for you to go to your girlfriend's wedding.

Right. We ended up breaking up. Oh. And I told her, I hit up. I said, hey, I promised you I was going to take care of your girl for you to fly to your girlfriend to a wedding. Okay. Here, come by, get the money. Hey, she ain't even come in the house.

I met outside. She pulled up in the driveway. I gave her the money, gave her cash. She said, thank you. You're mad at your word. Boom. You ain't go? No, hell no. I wasn't going anyway. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I was paying for her to go. Okay, okay. Because it was a destination wedding and it was, you know, it was expensive. I mean, she had a job, but I mean, it was, you know, by the time she She, I mean, she got, she had a job, but I mean, it was, you know, by the time she got, by the time she got an airline, by the time she got a flight, I'm, I'm, I mean, a flight and, and the hotel,

I'm assuming at three day minimum. So I gave, I said, go, enjoy, have a great time. So she comfortable. So you comfortable. Yeah. That's a, that's how I am. Right. But, hey, I know everybody.

If I promise you something, hey, I'm going to do it. I'm paying you. If I say I'm going to pay, look, I got you. I'm paying your rent. If we break up, I'm going to go ahead, hey, I'm going to go ahead and give you money for the rest of the year. Right. We go our separate way. And you know what?

Now that you got me, now you jogging my memory, I'm thinking that I have an individual that we are no longer together that is making sure all my business affairs are in order.

Mm-hmm. You know, despite the chaos and the turmoil going on between us. Now, how much do I extend my services on a day like Valentine's Day as a thank you for what you're doing for me?

What she's providing, what does that work to you? That's a good one. Now, I think people in the chat might not understand that because they don't see it because they're not in that position or understanding of all I have going on outside of the jokes and the laughs.

It's the serious part of life. So how much is that worth? How do you value that? It's only what is it worth to you? Because I can tell you what, but she's not doing that for me. If you had to pay somebody to do that. It wouldn't be as much as what you told me to fork off, I don't think. I'm not sure.

First of all, do you trust somebody to handle your business like that? To know your ins and outs? Exactly. So it's worth that. It's worth that. For me to try to replace Shelly. For I trust somebody implicitly could put a price on it right okay okay good pretty price on it okay so i gotta be careful

so now this is the next thing chat any ideas i got three days i got i got three days what do you think talk to me i didn't i, I didn't, I didn't did it all. I didn't did yachts and the helicopters. Well, I mean, Maldi, I mean,

I'm, I've run out of ideas to do. So, I mean, you good, you good at this chat? Y'all have any ideas? The problem is,

is that you, you, you've gone, I mean, you, bro, you out here. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Once you, once you go to the stars and the planets, I mean, where the hell y'all be going to the moon? Ain't no fun no more. Hell, you you go to the stars and the planets, I mean, where the hell you be going to the moon? Ain't no fun no more. You done been to the stars.

You done been to Pluto. You done been to Neptune. Yeah. Chad, you need ideas? Maybe I can do something simple. You know, something simple. Hire some violinists. You know, maybe a live band. Have a personal chef come in and cook a five-course meal. Hold on. How about the chef in a live band. And have a personal chef come in and cook a five-course meal.

Hold on. How about this chef in a live band? Roses, flowers, she wake up, music, chef already down there cooking, but we in two separate houses now. Hey, send him over there. We'll have him come to your place. I'll have him go to the place.

That little place, he can't cook. He can't cook with a pot of chili at your house. That little ass apartment you get. Man, real don't want no damn beanie weenie. Send him over

to our place and do, hey, cook a breakfast, a brunch, whatever the case may be. I like that. I like that.

I like the live band. I like the live band playing while breakfast is being made. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like the live band. I like the live band playing while breakfast is being made. Yeah, I like that. That's different. That's different. That's different. That's different. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify,

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