Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Elway's biggest regret, Aaron Rodgers future

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss John Elway's biggest regret, Aaron Rodgers' hopes for his future with the New York Jets, and debate which one can lift more weight in the gym!02:49 - The Athletic: John Elway, not taking Josh Allen was a mistake11:40 - Wild Boy: Mack Hollins13:56 - Aaron Rodgers, I’d still like to have 2 great years19:12 - Top 10 Sports Anthems23:45 - Spell-O Cinco28:12 - Dunk on Unc38:43 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. It goes that way sometimes. Ocho, John Elway helped the Bronco team that won five straight AFC West titles, made two Super Bowl appearances, and captured the Super Bowl in his 10th season as general manager.

He peered on Pardon My Take Today and said not selecting Josh Allen in 2018 in the NFL draft was his biggest mistake of the GM. The Broncos had number five pick in the draft and used it to select North Carolina State pass rusher Bradley Chubb.

Allen, who played two hours away from Denver in Wyoming, was selected by the Bills seventh. Got to take a quarterback. Got to take a quarterback. You got to. Wait a minute. Do me a favor. Run that back again.

The selections. He had the number five pick. He took Bradley Chubb. Chubb. Seven, two picks later, Josh Allen goes to Buffalo. At that time, what did the Broncos

need? A quarterback? Who was the quarterback when Bradley Chubb got drafted? Was it Trevor Simeon? Who was there? They had gotten rid of Brock Osweiler. I remember Brock.

Yeah. Because, you know, normally, especially with a pick that high, the team's always the need. What is our need? Bad Case Keenum. Yeah, you see how you put your head to the side not so case keenum that previous season before that draft he must have had a good year i don't

give a he had i'm just saying he had to have had a good year where they felt okay that that position right now is good enough he He's played well enough. Not the greatest. No, Ocho. I'm just telling you. Think about this, Ocho. Look at Alex Smith. Was getting the Kansas City Chiefs to the playoffs every year.

Andy Reid. The pick zoomed up the draft board. Traded two first rounders and a third to select Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes, yeah. You don't pass on those guys if you get an opportunity to get one that was that was them so so maybe hey listen do you think who who was in that draft it was a no-brainer that you just can't pass up did they not feel josh allen was worthy of that pick because if he was they they would have told him. Maybe like I said, I thought it was a mistake at the time.

Right. Probably cost him his GM ship in Denver. You had Vaughn. Your problem was you couldn't score. Yeah. It don't matter how great your defense is. At some point in time, they're going to have an off game. Team's going to get 14.

Team's going to get 17. But if you only can score 10, you're going to lose. Damn. Baker Mayfield was first. Saquon Barkley was third. Sam Darnold was, no, Saquon was second. Sam Darnold was third. Denzel Ward was fourth.

Bradley Chubb was fifth. Quentin Nelson was sixth. Josh Allen was seventh. Roquan Smith was eighth. Mike McGlitchy was ninth. Josh Rosen was tenth. Lamar Jackson was 32nd. I bet you if you redo

that draft all over and team knew what Lamar Jackson was what pick you think he would have went you want me to lie you want me to tell you the truth I want you to tell me the truth I don't like when you lie to me I think if they redo this draft I think they would take Josh Allen in front of Lamar.

People, for whatever reason. Even what you've seen so far today? Because they look at Lamar and say, I don't know what else Lamar can do. He's gone just as far as Josh Allen. He's more, he's, I mean, take Patrick Mahomes of the young quarterbacks, guys that are 28, 29, between 28, 29, and 23. Take Patrick Mahomes out of the equation. Lamar's the only one in that group that got MVPs.

I'm missing something. Think about it. When it comes down to when they say, okay, top five quarterback, Lamar has never won. He's never two because Joe Burrow always goes to. Right. And, and the people take take justin herbert over him the guy that had a 27 point lead and got the cost it up justin herbert yes lamar jackson people do i don't i they never asked they never asked me who uh uh chat where's that what didn't somebody just put a list out the top five quarterbacks

i think somebody put a top 10 quarterbacks out ashley to try to find it that's that's that's what you think about it say uh sam donald is on his what third 14 four he was at Carolina. He was at the 49ers. Now he's on wherever he's at. Mahomes one. Burrow two. Josh Allen three.

Lamar four. Knowing what you just said, knowing what we know now, they still put Josh Allen in front of Lamar. That's crazy. I'm just saying. And listen, Josh is great, though.

Lamar is great. Two different type of quarterbacks. They both get the job done the same. You know, they both get the job done. But they make it seem like Josh Allen's done been to like Super Bowl. He's won or been to and lost a couple of Superbowl. He hasn't. He hadn't even been to a,

he hadn't even been to a championship. At least Lamar can say, well, hell I've been to an AFC championship game. I've won two MVPs. I've been first team all pro twice. Hey, Josh Allen is good though.

If he could just start, if he, if he not, if he knock could just start if he knock off them turnovers, if he can stop turning the ball over but then he's also a gunslinger because of his arm strength because he knows he's so good

at throwing the ball he take chances unnecessary though exactly ESPN.com, we put the Exactly. ESPN.com. We put the ranking from ESPN.com. I mean, go to any site. I mean, whatever you want to, pro football focus.

I mean, what's the other site? Sports Illustrated, Bleacher Report, and see. The only thing I don't think we have any questions about is, number one, who's going to debate that? Who would even take their pencil to put someone above Mahomes, given what he's done in six years as a starter? The man has been to four Super Bowls. He's won three, two 5,000-yard seasons, and he's a three-time Super Bowl MVP.

So who you – Nobody. Your pen would just start scratching. You try to write somebody's name in quarterback one over my home, your pen is just like, nah, I ain't writing that. Yeah. Dang.

The thing is, Josh Allen, if you look at it, Ocho, and you played against this guy, he's a more athletic big being. Oh, shoot. when you put it like that and he is but early in his career what did they do for big demand

they played outstanding defense and they let Jerome Bettis and Willie Parker do what they do being developed into the passer that he became they didn't just turn the keys over to him right away right

right man that's a good comparison like that a more athletic Ben much much much more athletic yeah oh he can hit his head on the goal post from 50

oh yeah absolutely absolutely Yeah. Oh, he can hit his head on the goalpost from 50. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. You let him get a jump on you, you ain't going to catch him. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And he'll run your butt over. You see how many hot guys he run people over, man? That dude's 6'5", 6'6", probably like 250, 255.

Yep, Easy. So Bill's wide receiver, Mac Hollins, doesn't wear shoes or use utensil, thinks small cats steal your soul, and hasn't eaten a vegetable in three years. Is Mac Hollins the most interesting man in the NFL? No, he's not.

He just doesn't wear shoes. We see that all the time when people leave the club, women and their heels hurt. They don't wear their shoes. I ain't see no guy doing no shit. I ain't see no guy doing no ish like that. Yeah, but he's just wearing it. I mean, you're just wearing those shoes.

You ever seen you ever see a guy leave the club with his shoes in his hand? No, but I've seen a lot of people walk barefoot, though. A lot of people. Not leaving the club. I see women. I just use the club as an example on just seeing people walk barefoot, not having shoes on.

But, man, he's not the most interesting in the league. Absolutely not. Not because he's doing that. Hell, no. Man, I don't walk with no... I don't even walk in my own house barefooted. Oh, I always have on socks. I got on... I wear Crocs in my...

Well, I have to wear... You know, I got slides, protective stuff that you put over your feet that you can walk with if you want to wear your shoes. You can wear those or you can just wear your socks. Yeah. My house too cold. You know, I AC... I AC stay on 60 man i was like oh yeah he's different he's different yeah he's different by you know but

based on what he does and what he's doing but not most interesting nice it's too many it's too many interesting individuals in the nfl to say that he's interesting because he's doing that. No, not even close. Yeah, but like I said, like you said, I've seen women go to club and they've been in them red bottoms or they've been in shoes, them heels standing in those heels for hours

and hours. As soon as they get outside, they off but I ain't never seen I've never seen a guy come out of the club and he got to take his sneakers off or he take his hard bottles off I ain't seen that maybe you guys have seen that but I still

haven't seen it the New York Jets window is very small. Rogers had initially hoped for two great years with the Jets with a chance to win the Superbowl. But after his injury last season, the clock is ticking louder than ever. Rogers said today, I would say there was a lot of sentiment that last year wasn't a great year

for me. I'd still, I'd like to still have two great years. What you mean? It wasn't a great year for me. I'd like to still have two great years. What you mean it wasn't a great year? Ocho, you went down four snaps until your first game. What you mean it wasn't great? It was incomplete.

It was nothing. Yeah. I mean, that would attest to him saying it wasn't a great year because he wasn't able to play. No, he said he said there's a lot of sentiment that last year wasn't a great year for me.

It wasn't! Yeah. Chad, am I confused? I mean, if I'm supposed to do X, Y, and Z, and let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you and I, we're going to start, we're going to do nightcap. Ten minutes into nightcap, man, Ocho, like, man, I can't. I ain't going to be able to do it all.

Right. People say, people going to say, but but Ocho last situation wasn't that good. It wasn't. Bro, you was on the show for 10 minutes. Yeah. I mean, maybe he means well. He's not wording what he wants to get. He's not wording it the right way.

Oh, you mean to tell me the guy that has the right words for every situation that's thought about it through and through use correct word to try to steer. You can add words to certain things to make them say what you want them to say. Want to say, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just, he's not saying the right way, but I know, I know what he can do based on what he, based on what he,

what he said about wanting to play two more years. If, if that Achilles holds up, if that Achilles holds up, if that offensive line holds up, if Aaron Rodgers is anything like what we've seen in the past, oh, he could play two more. Because the Jets don't have no answer right now.

They don't have an answer. They don't have an answer. So he can play two more years. Well, they might not have a choice but it better go well cause everybody gonna be gone Aaron Rodgers

the head coach the coach the general manager everybody Woody Johnson everybody up out of there yeah I think

I think it'll be alright though depending on what Aaron Rodgers you get I'm talking about the Aaron Rodgers that's locked in and focused on the goddamn game of football

not any of the the goddamn shenanigans he gonna be alright they gonna be alright and the one thing Rodgers that's locked in and focused on the goddamn game of football, not any of the goddamn shenanigans. He going to be all right. They going to be all right. I know one thing. He better throw goddamn Garrett Wilson that goddamn ball at Lazard and hand it off to Brees Hall. Brees Hall going to take all the pressure off

him. I want him. I want to. I want to see. I like when great players play great even when they've changed location. I mean, a lot of people will. You ain't playing for my team. I don't wish you the best. No, I want to see great players play great.

I mean, I don't want to see you on your last legs. I don't want to see you like Joe Namath when he was with the Rams or Johnny Unitas and the Chargers. Who wants to see that? Because a lot of times, that's the last memory that you have a lot of time everybody that's watching you at your last stop that's the only impression that they have

when you people say man you don't realize how great x what the x what was it used to be yeah yeah right i i doubt he he's not gonna go out like that well i hope not watching watching him practice watching him throw, watching him move around. He looks good. The arm strength is still there. The plays he's making with Garrett Wilson, the clips are always on social media now since they've been in camp.

They're going to be all right. I'm telling you, Brees Hall is going to take that pressure off of him. And all you got to do is facilitate that ball and don't make any mistakes with turnovers. Simple. The defense is so good. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But you know, Ojo, defense, you only stay at that level, that upper ledge for a period of time. Then you have a break and then you bounce back. But to stay here? Mm-hmm. It's difficult. It's just like

everything. Teams go back and they break you down 16 weeks. And they see what you did in certain situations, your personnel, who does what. That's why I say it's hard to win in the NFL, man.

As soon as you have a little success, break you down to the umpteenth degree to see why you have that success and they force you to play to your bad and keep you away from your good. But they better go to a roaring start

you know how they get restless in New York oh listen the fans in New York just like the fans in Philly boy they don't play that yeah for sure they don't play that alright Ocho awful announcement

revealed their list of top 10 sports anthem number 10 one shining moment All right, Ocho. Awful announcement revealed their list of top 10 sports anthems. Number 10, One Shining Moment. Luther did that one, didn't he? Is that Luther? Luther Vandross? One Shining Moment?

Okay. Wild World of Sports, the classic, the Masters, tournament, unlike any other. The NFL Long Spots, SportsCenter, 1990 classic, the Masters. Tournament, unlike any other. The NFL Long Spots, SportsCenter, 1990s. CBS, college football.

David Fairet. Barrett. Olympic theme. Oh, that should be, that should be, that's a good one. The Olympic theme. Yep. Number three, Monday That's a good one. The Olympic theme. Yep. Number three, Monday Night Football. The classic.

Number two, March Madness on CBS. I don't even know that. The NBA on NBC. Man, don't nobody remember the NBA on NBC? They don't remember when the NBA was on NBC? Oh, wait. Wait, I forgot how it goes. It was on the video game too, too I think if I'm not mistaken

when did the NBA have hold on that had to be like hold on I'm trying to think Jordan was it Costas 2002 the NBA hadn't been on NBC since 2002. So two decades. Yeah.

I think it might have been NBA Jam. I know. One of the video games used the theme from NBA on NBC. At least, like... We hear the Olympic theme every four years. Hey, that's dope. March Madness comes around every year. Monday.

I mean, I can't, it's been so long since the, the NBA was bent on NBC. I know it's going back to NBC. I can't even remember. You don't remember the song? I don't.

I only, I got it in my head. I only know, I promise you one. I don't know if. You don't remember the song? I don't. I got it in my head. I only know, I promise you, I don't know if it was NBA Jam. One of the games used the NBA, used the song from NBA or NBC on the video game. I'm telling you, I know I'm not tripping. Chat, somebody got to be old enough

to remember that's a gamer. What it was. What video game it was. Oh, I think they're not going to let me talk. I'm too loud again. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world

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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, that's not fair. We can do it tomorrow. Okay, we'll do it. No, when are we back on again? We're on tomorrow. Wednesday. Tomorrow is Wednesday.

Oh, we got time? Are we going to smell it now? Okay, okay, Ocho. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it? Yeah, yeah. It's time for...

Yeah. Yeah. Chat, this is for y'all, chat. Okay, Ocho. We're going to start you off with an easy one. A very, very easy one. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Najay Houston.

Wait, you want me to... We're doing first name or last name? We're doing last name. Houston? That's easy. Go ahead. H-O-U-S-T-O-N. You said Houston.

H-U-S-T-O-N. Nige Houston. See, who parents playing around like that? That's what you get. That's what you get for being fancy. Who parents playing around like that? You don't want to. That's what you get for being fancy. Who parents playing around like that? You don't want a quick free, but I know, I know,

I know, and get it wrong. Who parents playing around like that? How about this one? She's the youngest American to win a tennis match in the Olympics since Venus Williams. Yeah. Coco Gauff.

G-A-U-F-F. Correct. Stop playing. Stop playing with my top. What you talking about? Okay. She's water polo. Emily Osmus.

Last name, Osmus. What? Osmus? Os, os. Os. Os. Pass me the aux cord. Aus. A-U-S.

Mm-hmm. M-E-S. A-U-S. M-U-S M-E-S A-U-S M-U-S Osmus. Give me a little credit. No, you spelled it wrong. I don't know these people.

You don't know the word, but you be spelling them. How about this here? We spelling people's name, that's different than me having... Yeah, now you know. But you ain't say nothing when you went back to 75 BC for the Olympics. You ain't say nothing about that.

But you was there. You wasn't there? No. You said when you plugged that computer up, it's on. I hadn't plugged it in yet. I didn't think you was going to go that deep. Fancy. You be wanting to stun me so bad.

You be going back. How about this here? Taylor Averill. Taylor Averill. Okay. Now, that was easy. Based on the pronunciation of what you just, you said Averill. Yes.

Huh? Because we had a football player, Cliff said Avril. Yes. Huh? Because we had a football player, Cliff Avril. Yes. Right? A-V-R-I-L. Now, if that's wrong, I quit. Well, you quit because it's wrong.

A-V-E-R-I-L-L. Avril. Ave. Why would they add the E? The E is silent. That makes no sense. Well, I don't know what to tell you. Okay, the last one.

He is the biggest threat, I believe, to Noah Lyle's in the 200 meters. He also made it in the 100 meters. Okay. Kung Fu Kenny. Kenny Beneric. Beneric. Kenny Beneric. Beneric. Kenny Beneric.

Not, not. You spelled Derek. So Beneric, I'm just going to take the B-E-N-E-R-R-I-C-K. Now, it can't be wrong. Because Derek and Beneric is the same, so the spelling should be identical. B-E-D-N-A-R-E-K. Kenny Beneric. Beneric or Bederic?

Beneric. So where did D come from? B-E-D. But you said his name is Beneric. Yeah. Kenny Beneric. Okay, you're confusing me. You ever heard of him?

Do you remember the last guy to play two both ways? Chuck Benerick. Spelled different, but Concrete Charlie is what they called him. Number 60, Philadelphia Eagles. That's not fair. That's not fair. All right, Ochoa. Here's your little revenge.

Get your little revenge back. Look at it. Look at it. Look at it. Hey, hold on. Let's wait for the graphic. It's now it's time for Dunk on Unk. Yeah. I got this. Nah, you tripping. Hold on.

Let me get you together real quick because I'm starting with the hard ones. Why you do all that, Ocho? Nah, because man, you give me, you know I know how I'm starting with the hard ones why you do all that Ocho? nah because man you give me you know I know how to spell people's names man question number one Chad here we go what Olympic games what Olympic games

the year and where they were was the first to be televised oh my gosh. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yep.

Or. So there were no Olympics in 16. Mm hmm. So there were no Olympics in 16. Mm-hmm. Ba-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. TV didn't come out. Well, color television they have black and white I would say I'm taking a wild guess here Ocho I'm gonna say

19 1952 1952 1952 where um say 60 was in Rome 56 was in Melbourne 52 yeah yeah yeah 56 was in Melbourne 52 at sea yeah

I don't know what to tell you uh yeah Stockholm I don't know yeah no not Stockholm Berlin 36 it was in Berlin the first Olympic Games were televised I don't know. Yeah. No, not Stockholm. Berlin. 36? It was in Berlin.

The first Olympic Games were televised in Berlin in 1936. Oh. 1936. Ha ha. Question number two. You're 0-1. Okay. You're going to go 0-5. Initially started as a recreational sport for American soldiers during world

war two. What sport will make its debut in Los Angeles? 28, 20, 28 games. It started as recreation. As a recreational sport for the soldiers in world war two. This sport will make its debut in Los Angeles at the 20,

28 games. Okay. two. This sport will make its debut in Los Angeles at the 2028 Games. What would Soldiers do? Oh, yeah. I mean, I can't even you saw Full Metal Jacket yeah I saw

Full Metal Jacket you remember what them soldiers did when they was uh boy packing a footlocker uh love you long time marching locker uh love you long time course marching i don't know i can't even i can't even get any okay well the answer you're looking for is not obstacle course the answer is not marching

the answer is flag football oh the answer is flag football and flag football is coming to the Olympic games in 2028. Okay. I'm going to be playing too. Question number three. You are now over to just like I was an Olympic sport through 1920. What a game, which involves two teams pulling a rope and a test of strength. On Olympic sport in 1920.

Okay, and I gave you that easy one because I knew you wouldn't get the first two. So you're welcome. Okay, Ocho, I just plugged it in. I gave you that easy one. I just plugged it in, Ocho. Oh, you plugged it in? I plugged it in, Ocho.

Okay. What are the five rings an Olympic symbol intended to represent since you just plugged it in? Yeah. I can hear Ash laughing. What are the five rings in Olympic symbol intended to represent? Liberty. City. Sportsmanship. liberty city sportsmanship

okay okay man I don't know I don't know I ain't no way yeah I thought you plugged it in the five parts of the Olympic rings excuse me the five rings in Olympics oh my god

Ocho the five rings in Olympics oh my god Ocho the five rings which are symbolic of the Olympic sign represent the five

parts of the world Africa Asia Australia the Americas and Europe so the five continents you didn't know that huh

no I did not but you know now. Here we go. Question number five. Or just number four. Which country has the most Olympic gold medals?

And how many? Well, America. We got the most gold medals. Okay, okay. And when you combine and we got 3 most gold medals. Okay, okay. You got to complete the answer. And we got 3,000 when you combine summer and winter Olympics. I didn't ask you to combine. I said Olympic. That's the Olympic.

Winter Olympics and summer Olympics. Woo-hoo! I plugged the computer in on it. I plugged the computer in on it. no no no you said olympics we we're not in the winter olympics so why don't you say something you didn't specify summer i'm trying to do me y'all see what he tried to do to me can y'all see that right we're in the summer olympics why are they what you say. Y'all see what he's trying to do to me? Stay with me now real quick.

We're talking about and recapping the Summer Olympics. Why are you even mentioning winter? Why would I be asking about winter in the summer? You said who has the most medals.

I said America. You said how many? You didn't say Summer Olympics. Right. You didn't say nor many. So how You didn't say how many for the summer. I don't know what you mean. In its totality, for the Summer Olympics, you said the U.S. has the most gold medals. And I said how many?

No, you didn't say. You said who has the most gold medals in Olympics history? Which country has the most gold medals? I said America. Then you added a two-part question because you didn't think I was going to get it. You said, how many? I said 3,000.

How would you not get it? Of course the United States has the most. Everybody knows that. But I'm talking about how many and why you mentioned the Winter Olympics and we in summer. Because they are the Olympics. You said gold medals.

They pass that gold medal in the Winter Olympics too. But it ain't the Winter Olympics that we're talking about. Y'all see? Y'all see? They killing you, Ocho. I got it. I got it. Nah, you cheating. I told y'all plug the computer in.

Once I plug that computer in, it's over. You got that wrong. I got it right. All right. Question number five. What team did the women's national basketball team lose to in 1992?

Ooh. Oh, yeah. oh yeah oh man wait that dial up ain't working huh it's only one or two yeah okay you can only give me one answer. You can't give me two. You got the same amount right I did because you're going to get this wrong.

I got two of them right. I'm about to get one right. I'm going to go. Who could have beat us at 92? It was in Barcelona. That was the last time we lost, too. It ain't who I, I know it's going to be somebody that I don't,

but it's Lisa. Hmm. I was there. So I remember. Bro, you were 13. I know I was there uh

I don't know Spain wrong Australia or Soviet the Commonwealth of Independence the Russians wait did I say that right Commonwealth of Independence. The Russians. Wait, did I say that right?

The Commonwealth of Independent States. Yeah. Let me say that the right way. They done changed their name so many times. They done went to the Unified Team. So you went one for four. I went two. I got two of them right on, Cho.

You didn't give me the amount of medals that the United States won. That was part of the question. 3,000. You said 3,000. Why are you adding? No, we're talking about the Summer Olympics. You didn't say that. All right.

Now it's time for our last segment of the day. It's called Q&A. J. West said, Uncle O could blast football working the Olympics. Well, we're about to find out in 28, right? Yeah, we're going to find out. 2028. It's going to be here. Hey, guys.

We've seen some fun Olympic Games commentary by Snoop Dogg, Colin Joss from Saturday Night Live. Which event do you two think you could commentate on together the best and would keep us all laughing? Track. Yeah. Track.

Don't put me on that mic. At a track meet? And somebody getting ready to get lapped? Woo. Man, don't do that. I lapped, whoop, whoop. Man, don't do that. Don't do that.

I would like, you know, obviously track and field, you know that. But I would like, you know what I like to commentate on? I don't know. They got like trampoline in the Olympics. They got rhythmic gymnastics. You know what? Break dancing. Yeah.

Break dancing. Break dancing is fun to comment on Break dancing. Yeah. Break dancing makes his debut this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be a good one. Rhythmic gymnastics where they got the little

they be spinning that thing and they throw the ball up in there and they throw the baton. Girl B. You know what? Yeah. Synchronized swimming, Ocho.

Oh, boy, they don't be playing, bro. Yeah, man. They don't be playing. Man, I don't know you know what yeah synchronize women Ocho oh boy they don't be playing yeah man they don't be playing man I don't know how the women be holding their breath like that that's difficult

yeah and to be in unison yes all together that takes a lot of practice now that takes a lot of practice Kemper Norwood that's a good question

I like that one Kemper Norwood Jr. said O question I like that one Kemper Norwood Jr. said Ocho do you have a split NFL jersey with the Bengals and the Dolphins no I know what you talk about

I don't have a split one no no I don't I don't Dr. Frankie L. Beverly said your chest is so big it looks like you

swallowed Ocho just playing Ocho love y'all. I'm losing weight. I don't think people understand how big I've gotten. You ain't. I am. O'Joran. O'Joran's over today. O'Joran.

He know it's just about a time. It's over. He had a little run. He had a little six month stretch where you know he was the most in shape. But it's over now. Like Luther said, it's over now. Wait, I'm the most in shape right now it's over now. Like Luther said, it's over now. Wait, I'm the most in shape right now. Oh, Lord have mercy. Ocho, you weigh 53 pounds.

I just told you. I started at 178. I've been in. I'm on week. What's this? Week three? I'm at 190 now. You ain't no 190.

You ain't no 190. You ain't no 190. No. Hold on, man. It's not. You ain't got no scale in there. I don't need no scale. Cut.

Cut. Cut your shirt in. So you can see. So you got. You can't. Wait, let me. You can't see in front of the camera? Or you don't see how big

I'm telling you when you see me hey somebody go call the exterminator to get that prayer mantis out the hotel room you making jokes now you can see through you not no 190 bro

listen you can just pay attention now. You can see how them filled in. My traps, everything coming in. My titty sitting right. When you see me, when you see me August 22nd, we'll be in Atlanta

and I'm around 200, 205. Remember I told you so. All right? Remember I told... Hey, remember I told you so. I'm telling you, what? Who is calling here? Ocho.

Yeah. All right. You might need to be. I don't know, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. I've seen cheerleaders on top of the pyramid holding the sign saying, yeah, with big arms to you all right all right you'll see oh remember that i came down i did oh i didn't work this morning

man jordan like ball bad man you know i think jordan hey you had your run it was short but you had a little run yeah how long how long his run was? How long was your run? About eight months. Yeah, he still running. No, you're not. I done caught you. I done tatted him on the shoulder. You got a police police pull up on you. They don't flash the blue light.

They just pull up beside you. Pull over, son. That's how they do you in the south. They don't turn the blue light'll turn the blue and pull over son Ocho you look like 175 180 alright you'll see get your jokes off now I told you when we do the show in August

when we go to Atlanta I'm only wearing a tank top I'm only wearing a tank top and I'm putting on my diggies and my chucks and that's how I'm doing the show well you know boy I'm only wearing a tank top. I'm only wearing a tank top and I'm putting on my diggies and my chucks. And that's how I'm doing the show. Well, you know, you boy, I would be. Well, you already see. Yeah. You see the whole.

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That's what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, man. Ocho, you know, Ocho, you, first of all, you never going to be my weight, and I'm never going to be your weight. The only way I'm going to be your weight, I'm going to be three months past dead. That's the only way I'm going to be 175, 180. All I got to say is I'm going to be 200 pounds come August 22nd. That's all that matters.

Ocho, I haven't worked 200 pounds since my freshman year. That was 86, that damn near 40 years ago yeah but I ain't I'm trying to prove a point that's my point I'm trying to prove a point I'm telling you how big I can get fast look at Ocho's clavicle

look at point to point look at his shoulders and look at my shoulders you see the difference you see this to this you wide I'm aer. You see the difference? You see this? Yeah, you wide. You wide.

I'm aerodynamic. That's the difference. I'm trying to tell you. What I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, you wide and I'm aerodynamic. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You only going to get so big, Ocho, because you ain't got nowhere to put it. I'm still going to get to 220.

I'm telling you, I can do it. This man here. You'll see. It's just my camera's so small, you really can't see the definition and how much work I've put in. I'm just trying to, if you look at somebody, look at their clavicles,

you look at, you know, from point to point, Ocho, you only can get so big. Where are you going to put the weight? The chest area area the legs the arms I'm telling you you'll see you'll see

man it's cold in here let me put my shirt back on oh boy Ocho you see I'm telling you you doubt me like my my teachers doubted me in high school. They told me I couldn't do it. Oh, my goodness.

You want to know where the weight going to go? You're going to see it come September 1st. Ocho, I'm just, Ocho, all I'm saying is. I'm telling you. Oh, yeah, you, Ocho. What? What? Ocho. Icho I mean you 175

no I'm 190 right now you ain't no 190 that's not a 190 frame and it's okay how you gonna tell me about my frame I just I've studied hey

you don't know you feel that that's a C cup right there C cup talk about man I'm out here let's go

I probably like where you I probably like I probably like 50 right now who me I probably 250 god damn well you fat

no I ain't fat I'm solid hey hey I ain't fat I'm solid hey hey hey I tell you what I tell you what when you see me in Atlanta we'll see okay okay no no okay you'll see

alright ain't no fat bro ain't no fat yeah I mean I just did the same thing oh you see the difference you see the difference fat, bro. Ain't no fat. I mean, I just did the same thing. You ain't no bigger than me, man. Just wait. I'm sorry. Before anything, I said,

there's a lot of man. There's a heavyweight. Now, just like you in the heavyweight division. Now, you've been dealing with the middleweight, in the welterweight 147, you might have went up to a couple of times, maybe even a light heavy 75, I say but this is a super heavyweight, this is the clinch goals in the Lenny's

Lewis's, yeah, the Anthony Joshua's, this is a big class here now you know your boy I lay heavy, you know know your boy I'll lay heavy you know what I'm saying Ocho I'll lay heavy but I'm just saying Ocho I can look at your

you can look at point to point to your shoulders it's only going to get so big nah that ain't got nothing to do with it yes it is the way it got to go somewhere I just told you where it's gonna go you know I don't wanna talk about it no more I'ma just show you I'ma show you like I showed my teachers in high school

I came back to them when I made it I came back to them remember you said I wasn't gonna be able to do this here you go Chad can y'all see the difference between Ocho's shoulder from point to point and mine yeah I just told you you wide Chad, can y'all see the difference between Ocho's shoulder from point to point and mine? Yeah, I just told you, you wide.

Like, you wide. That's what I'm trying to say, Ocho. Just because my shoulders are aerodynamic does not mean I can't gain and put on muscle and weight. Where you going to put it at? The weight has to go somewhere. It's going to go there. I'm going to's gonna go there I'm gonna show you I'm gonna show you oh lord have mercy Ocho you just

you'll see I ain't gonna say nothing else cause I can show you better than I can tell you okay oh lord have mercy Ocho I'm just saying yeah I mean hey you hey I ain't even worried about you

if you just running from the police just hide behind a street sign they gonna run right past you I can't I'm too big for that Ocho you skinny nah I'm skinny but I ain't been no Snoop Dogg is skinny hey chat Ocho you skinny Nah I ain't skinny Snoop Dogg is skinny Hey chat Ocho go outside

Ocho look through a peephole with both eyes He ain't got clothes Everybody else got clothes with one eye Ocho look through a peephole We'll see Ocho you Ocho Think about see Ocho you Ocho Ocho you

I'm just saying you should be think about it Ocho you haven't played football in over a decade and you've been able to keep your weight down that's a positive

a lot of wide receivers a lot of wide receivers look like offensive defensive linemen no listen I was always small I'm just trying to prove a point

thank you yeah and I'm trying to prove a point thank you yeah and I'm trying to prove a point to show you I can get big as hell in a short amount of time it's like a switch when I want to hit that switch I can hit that switch oh Joe you will see August

22nd okay you'll see alright man look here August 22nd. Okay. You'll see. All right. Man, look here. All I got to do is eat. If I eat and live, I'll be 280.

What you think I'm doing? I'm eating three meals a day. Got my protein shakes. Yeah, don't worry about it. I mean, four times. I mean, four times. I try to get five, but I just can't eat. yeah don't worry about it Ocho I mean I eat four times I mean four times four times I don't need four I try to get I try to get five

but I just can't eat see the thing it's hard for me to really hold weight once I start working out because once I get done working out all I want to do

is just lay down I don't want to eat so I lose I can lose I lose weight like let me show you let me show you I'm going to get you on my regimen I used to drop in practice

during two a days I dropped 10 pounds at practice listen if I don't touch no weights I just shrink I can touch the weights I just can't be lifting no heavy just shrink. I can touch the weight. I just can't be living no heavy-ish.

Because I started living that heavy-ish, my body like, yeah, where you been all my life? The next day you know I'm 260, 265. I ain't trying to be that no more. Yeah, I got you. I did what I do. What was that, 132? I just did the 132-pound dumbbells the other day. 132? Yeah.

I did the dumbbell bench the other day. I tell you what, we're going to go work out. We're going to let you. We're going to record. We're going to go to work out here. Yeah, now we're talking. You want to do chest, back, or shoulders? Chest, arms, shoulders.

We can hit every goddamn part I don't care, it don't matter and I bet I'm just as strong as you too yeah yeah, okay I don't do curls I ain't say nothing about no curls

cause I know you want to go into curls, you want to do all the nah, I don't want to do that I don't want to do that I'm just as strong as you you think so Ocho I know so especially in certain movements certain movements where I'm comfortable

Ocho what movement for one I'm stronger than you uh benching uh squatting. Oh, boy. Let me think what else. Anything where I have to push and pull, I guarantee you I got you. All that size don't mean nothing.

That don't mean nothing. Ocho. That's as strong as you. Ocho. Hold on. I'm trying to think what year was it. It might have been 96 or 97.

They surveyed. I was the second pound for pound. I was the second strongest player in the NFL. That's back then. That's back then. Ocho, I've been strong, Ocho. I've been strong too. I just didn't have the muscle. Wait a minute. You don't understand.

When I was with the Bengals, right? I worked out with the offensive lineman. I worked out with the offensive lineman. Wasn't Chip your strength guy? Wasn't Chip your strength guy? Chip and Ray. Yes. Chip Moore and add Chip.

Add Chip. I squatted 650. Listen, they be getting hyped about Nick Chubb doing all squat and all this heavyweight. I was doing that when I was with the Bengals. You can't even squat 350, let alone 650. Ooh!

Hey, Unc, I just look like this, man. I know. Ocho. You do real... Ocho, as Chip, when I got to Baltimore, I worked out by myself because I didn't really know them like that and I didn't really trust them like that. I took 405 down by myself, did it six times,

and put it back on the rack. Ask Chip. But, Unc, Unc, we play with 405 where I'm from, man. What you talking about? Ocho, I don't know if you can do 225. Unc, we play with 405 where I'm from, Unc. Okay, you know what? I'll tell you what I'm from, man. What you talking about? Ocho, I don't know if you can do 225. We play with 405 where I'm from, huh? Okay, you know what? I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You know what? I'm going to start

lifting serious just so I can show you when I see your ass in Atlanta. This is what he going to make me do because I ain't want to lift no heavyweight because I already know. I got to fit my clothes. I just got a new selection of suits. Shelly going to be mad because you're like, you got to fit my clothes. I just got a new selection of suits. Shelly going to be mad. Because you can't fit in anything.

Right, right. Ridiculous. But you brought this on yourself. This man going to talk about he can outlift me. You'll see. And make sure we got somebody that'll record it, too. You're going to learn. There's one thing I'm good at.

That's competing. Whatever. Bad Ocho. That's competing. Whatever. Bad Ocho. Bad looking Ocho. I understand Ocho. I know you. Everybody that's... Think about it. Everybody that's small

wants to be big. For one, I'm not small. You thin. I'm not thin. I'm of size. I mean... I mean not thin. I'm of size. I mean, I mean, look, you perfect for rail.

Hey, I'm air-bite a cup of tea. She just happened to be the one drinking it. How tall rail? Five. Five. Five, five, five, six. See, that perfect for you. I'm 6'0".

Ocho, like I said, you like a middleweight. You a super middleweight. Nah. I'm super heavy. Yeah, but you don't understand. I'm like Roy Jones. I go heavyweights, knock them out. I go lightweights, knock them out. You know, it don't understand i'm like roy jones i go heavyweights knock the mat i go

lightweights knock the mat you know it don't matter my weight fluctuate depending on what i feel like doing what we upload you doing the chest tomorrow you uploading chest tomorrow oh i i mean i don't really i don't really do chest no more because I don't want to get big I don't want to get big like that when I handle iron I get big if you notice I be trying to do the machines free weight huh?

I hear excuses no free weight put weight on me man I don't need to be it's one day it's one time it's one day it's one time on me, man. Ocho, I don't need to be bitching for 50, 500 pounds at 56. It's one time. It's one day. It's one time. Proving me that you stronger than me and we're doing it in the gym.

This is what I do. Oh, Lord. It sounds like you're making excuses. That's all I hear. When somebody call me out, I show up. I'm going to show up, Ocho. I ain't going to do it with 315 because I know you can't do 315. That's fine. And I'm going to do 315. You ain't saying that. That's water weight, man. We play with that where I'm from to show up, Ocho. I ain't going to do it with 315 because I know you can't do 315. That's fine. And I'm going to do 315. You ain't saying that.

That's water weight, man. We play with that where I'm from, man. 315? Stop playing, man. What you talking about? 315. 315, man. 315.

Yeah, man. 315, man. That's finger food. What you talking about? 315. Ocho, man, look. That's what I do, huh, man. That's finger food. What you talking about? 315. Ocho, man, look. That's what I do, man. I don't look like that, Ocho.

I ain't trying to get big. I'm trying to fit in my clothes. I'm trying to fit in my clothes. I'm trying to look good in my suits. Y'all know how I put them suits on. They be laying down. That's how they supposed to be. Ocho trying to get me busting out my suits. Hey, listen.

Ain't nothing to add a little bit more fabric. Ain't nothing to add a little bit more fabric to your suit. If you got a good tailor. If you don't have a good tailor, I got a tailor for you. No, no, no. Ocho. You do realize that once you get a suit, what you adding? I mean, you said it's not going to fit.

No. If it's not going to fit, I got somebody to add. I already took your measurements. And I can have somebody that is very good that can add more fabric so it can fit if you get it a little bigger.

No problem. That's not the way tailoring works. With my tailors, it does. Now, your tailors might not be as advanced as mine, but if you get a little too big for your suit, we could patch you up real quick. Yeah. I'll be out there looking like Grandma's Comforter

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