Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Evans 1,000 yd season, St. Brown wants a rule change, rookie hazing

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the final week of the regular season including Tampa Bay Bucs WR Mike Evans gets his 11th straight 1,000 yard season,... Detroit Lions’ Amon-Ra St. Brown wants the NFL to change its playoff rules, the guys talk about their days as rookies in the league and what kind of pranks were pulled on them and much more!03:18 - Mike Evans gets a $3 million bonus05:30 - Uniforms were different back in Unc and Ocho’s day11:40 - What is Russell Wilson doing?21:26 - Ocho and Unc talk rookie pranks. Meanwhile, Amon-Ra St. Brown wants a rule change in the NFL(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:01 the Buccaneers won one last play to get Mike Evans $3 million bonus. It was Mike Evans' 11th straight 1,000-yard season. Live. That's live. Now you see the difference? You see the difference? I wonder if that GM knew that. You think that GM knew that Mike Evans beat him?
Starting point is 00:04:21 They knew it because they talked about it on TV before it even happened. You know, Mike being able to reach his incentive, the $3 million incentive. Yes, the GM knew. He understood. He was going to make sure
Starting point is 00:04:32 Mike got it. No, that's the difference. I love it. I love it. That's the difference. I love it. I love when teams reward their players.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Mike Evans has been nothing but a model citizen for Tampa. He had an opportunity to possibly lead for Greener Pastures and free agencies. He took less money because his family was there. He's been great in the community. And he's like, you know what? I want to be a one-helmet guy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And they rewarded him for that loyalty. They've been loyal to him. He's been loyal to them. He's been nothing but a great player and a great ambassador for that organization. And this is how it should be. When someone have rewarded you with their play and their loyalty, I believe a team should pay that back.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Not all teams do this. A lot of times loyalty only goes one way. It normally goes player to team and the team never reciprocates that loyalty to the player like it's been reciprocated. Because even Tom Brady, every time Tom Brady did all that, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:05:30 what did the Patriots do? Hey. It's a dirty game. The game is the game. Business. Business. Business. Mike Evans, congratulations. One of the great receivers in NFL history.
Starting point is 00:05:52 11 straight seasons of 1,000 receiving yards. We thought that record was in jeopardy. Remember he pulled his hamstring? He missed three games. Hey, but Baker said, bro, come on back. I got you. Mike, congratulations. Very well deserved. 11 straight
Starting point is 00:06:07 seasons of 1,000 yards. Only Jerry Rice has more. 14. That's a lot. And, you know, at least now, Ocho, they play with knee pads. You know, we used to hit that hard-ass dirt. We have no knee pads. Knee pads, no thigh pads.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They got, hey, they got knee pads, thigh pads, hell, I mean, some are probably We have no knee pads. Knee pads, no thigh pads. They got, hey, they got knee pads, thigh pads, hell, I mean, some are probably running backs wear a heel pad. But we was out there
Starting point is 00:06:30 just, basically, we had on tights. To make a long story short, we had on tights because we had them taking all the, all the inner workings
Starting point is 00:06:37 of our game pants. The lining out and cut all that out. Put all that out. Y'all know who started that. We started that. Y'all fake the, y'all fake the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:06:44 We cut our pants and then we had theestring for the belt to tie it up. But the first person to actually, I want to give Ricky Jackson, Ricky Jackson was the first person I ever saw that had no pants in his pants. And I was like, man, we didn't let you do that? I went out there like, you feel so light Ocho cause you don't act like and I remember when I came to practice and Mike asked like 84
Starting point is 00:07:14 you gonna play in the game like that I was like yeah he's like okay hey however he said come to practice however you're going to play in the game. Now,
Starting point is 00:07:28 Dan Reeves wasn't playing that. Dan Reeves said, look, if you don't have no pads in and you get a five rules, I'm going to fire you. Let me go and put this thing in.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Let me go and put these five pads in. Let me go and put these five pads in. Let me go and put them in there. I don't even want these thigh pads in there. Let me go and put them in there. I don't even want to know how to worry about that. It's just so funny. When we used to practice, right, with Belichick in New England, you could play in the game however you want to. But Bill, in practice, he had everybody looking like the goddamn mannequin
Starting point is 00:08:00 in the damn, you know, the mannequin in the equipment room. Yeah, he got an elbow pad. He got a little hand pad. We little kids. We'll make everybody, you got to have your knee pads in, your thigh pads in. Oh, my God. Oh, that would drove me crazy. He ain't play that.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I remember I went out there one time. I'm thinking, you know, I'm a veteran. He not going to trip. Here I go. I'm out there. Took the lining out of my pants. No knee pads, no thigh pads. Man, Bill sent me right back in.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I had to change my pants, get some new pants, and put my thigh pads and my knee pads in. Boy, Bill, hey, that was, hey, Mike's like, hey, if you don't play with no knee pads, no thigh pads, you can't practice without them. Well, hey, I ain't have nobody's helmet and shoulder pads. That's all I had. I ain't have no thigh pads.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I didn't play with no mouthpiece. They's like, man, you got – I said, bro, I don't have time. I don't slap hands with somebody. I don't hit somebody on their ass because they made a good play. And you think I'm going to reach in my mouth and pull my mouthpiece out? And plus, I want to be able to talk ish on command. F you. You sorry, both of you?
Starting point is 00:09:15 I ain't got no mouthpiece. Just a mouthful of gold. That's it. Yeah. I had them three sticks of Big Red in my mouth. I was good. Rebel fresh talking cash-ish. Oh, there were some good days, boy.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Oh, Joe, the question is, has Lamar Jackson won enough to secure the MVP? DraftKings Sportsbook still have Josh Allen as a minus 230 underdog, but he's the favorite at minus 230. So that means he's the favorite. You see what I mean? As Lamar is a plus 185.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Is this after the game or before the game? After. See what I mean? See, that's why I say the vote must already be in. Somebody knows something. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Your vote don't have to be in until normally I think our vote had to be in by Monday by noon. Because, you know, you got to vote for all the awards. You got to vote for all pro. Because you get a vote, you vote for all the all pro team, offense, defense, kicker, coach of the year, rookie of the year,
Starting point is 00:10:15 you know, offensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, MVP, comeback player of the year, so forth and so on. So all that. So obviously, and it might be after the game, so forth and so on. So all that, so you obviously, and it might, it might be after the game, after the last game, but I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Ocho, I'm thinking it was noon Monday.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Like I said, it's been so long ago, hell, I hadn't worked at CBS in man, in so long, I mean, I think last year was like the Broncos winning the Super Bowl, so that was 2013, so it's been like, it winning the Super Bowl. So that was 2013. So it's been like, it's been 12 years. So that was a long, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But for me, I'm just saying, and I think Josh Ellis has a phenomenal season, but 41 touchdowns with less than five interceptions. That's impressive because Aaron Rodgers, and we know how gifted aaron rogers is a throw of the football i mean you think about all the great quarterbacks only two have ever done this aaron rogers and lamar jackson 900 rush yards with 4 000 passing yards no quarterback has ever done that he did it it. The second highest quarterback rating in NFL history. He got it. He got a lot of firsts or seconds.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He's had a lot, like I said. I'm glad I ain't a voter now. I'm glad I'm not a voter now. I'm glad I'm not a voter now. I'm glad I'm not a voter now. I'm not. Yeah, I'm biased. I want Lamar to win. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah, okay. I mean, wow. Sue me. Hello. Hello, Uncle. You're going to show him that helmet, huh? That was me. The Super Bowl helmet is at the house. So, yeah, I'm biased.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I don't know what you want me to tell you. Okay, sue me. I might get low. Y'all might have to cut it off my head. Russ, what are you doing? Get your ass out of bounds. That's two times. You've done that.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yardage is not important at this point in time. The clock is. Right. Russ is too veteran of an effing quarterback to keep making these mistakes it cost him against the baltimore ravens he tried to not all of a sudden he's josh allen he's gonna run a cam newton he's gonna run somebody over with his small ass slide your ass down in this situation get your ass out of bounds yardage three yards is not anymore is not more important than 15 seconds right i don't get it it's like all of a sudden these guys think ocho it's like
Starting point is 00:13:16 the moment the moment got too big for me he forgot what tell me what tell me what you thought with Ocho. Tell me. You got one timeout. Why would you not go out of bounds and save that timeout as opposed to getting three yards and got to burn it? Right. Listen, I'm glad it went that way because I sure ain't one of
Starting point is 00:13:39 solutions. You got to have better talk management. It's called situational football. Oh, yeah. And the really good ones,
Starting point is 00:13:51 they understand it. 15, that name, Kansas City, there's a reason you get paid 500 million now. There's a reason.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I just, I'm like, bro, I'm like, bro, it's just hard to win when guys in situations, they don't understand and then you got, I'm like, bro, I'm like, bro, it's just hard to win when guys in situations, they don't understand. And then you got your Ocho.
Starting point is 00:14:11 It's hard when your best players have bad attitudes. You see, because the thing is, Ocho, you don't want to get rid of that guy and then have him have that attitude, have good attitude. Because whatever the case, because we saw what happened in Minnesota with Randy. They wanted to move on. He goes to the Raiders. He didn't feel appreciated. They wouldn't give him the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And then he goes to New England and we see what happened. So the Raiders like, bro, why couldn't we get that? Hey, listen, that's why you have to be cautious. That's why you have to be cautious, you know, and have a little grace and a little leeway for players like that, of that caliber, that are special.
Starting point is 00:14:58 George Pickens ain't no regular receiver. Eventually, that behavior is going to rear its head. And it reared its head in New England, didn't it? Because guess what? And the one guy that wasn't going to put up with that behavior is going to rear its head. And it reared its head in New England, didn't it? Because guess what? And the one guy that wasn't going to put up with that behavior, you're playing for the guy. So what's the guy's name that's not going to put up with that behavior? No matter how great you are, what's his name, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Bill Belichick. You know what? When I think about that situation, when I go back to it and think about it, remember, he didn't really do nothing. He just said, I want my money. Nah, it was more to it than that,
Starting point is 00:15:28 Ocho. It was more to it than that. It was? Yeah. It was? Hey, Ocho, okay,
Starting point is 00:15:35 and then they traded to Tennessee. Okay, he goes to Tennessee, then what happened? Different office, too. you see? Now,
Starting point is 00:15:42 Minnesota, Oakland, New England, Tennessee, Minnesota again. Five teams. And we keep blaming the team. The 49ers was the last stop. They went to the Super Bowl, and then he hunted up after that. I just don't get it, Ocho, because the thing is, is that you can steal a year.
Starting point is 00:16:11 If you're a great player, they'll allow you to steal a year. If you got a year, you can steal a few. See, now you cooking. Now you cooking. And you can steal a few, especially if you ain't no pro. See, now you cooking with Chris Cole. See, before you was cooking with Pam. You was like, like, you ain't want to clog your arteries. Now you got Crisco.
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Starting point is 00:22:32 Lost four in a row? I mean, what are you, I'm trying to think. I mean, what can you do outside to play better offensively? Because the reason they haven't played well is because the offense has been abysmal the past four weeks. They've been bad as opposed to how they looked before. They look really good. I'm not sure what's going on with Arthur Smith and the play calling or Russ
Starting point is 00:22:55 and his ability to facilitate the ball to the receivers. I don't know what it is. Honestly, I can't tell you I just know from an offender standpoint they've been able to run it okay but the passing game
Starting point is 00:23:10 hasn't been what it should be because Ocho the receivers I don't know what I'm gonna first of all you remember pick mystery games but when he's in
Starting point is 00:23:17 Ocho Ocho I mean if he's supposed to roll 10 I don't know cause Ocho you know on that speed out
Starting point is 00:23:23 with that 10 roll to 12 Ocho that thing you got to throw it on time. Ain't no, ain't no, I'm going to wait until he get, I'm going to wait until, this ain't college. In the NFL, the difference between NFL and college, in NFL, you throw
Starting point is 00:23:37 people open. In college, you can wait until they get open. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. These guys are too good. They study too much film. And you throw a ball, wait until he get open in the NFL, they're going to pick it.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's going the other way. It's going the other way. I'm going to pick it. It's really that simple. And it's hard. I think we lost, we lost three or four. Hold on, we lost to Pittsburgh. Who did we lose to? We lost lost three or four we lost to Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:24:05 we lost to San Fran we lost to Pittsburgh San Fran we lost three or four but we won we lost three games then we won the final game of the season against Seattle and then we had a home game because back then Ocho
Starting point is 00:24:21 we were the I don't know what we were I think there was only three because back then, Ocho, we were the... I don't know what we were. I think there was only three divisions back then. But anyway, we had a home game. We got one home game, and then we had to go on the road. We had to go to Kansas City, and we had to go to Pittsburgh. But the thing was, is that the teams that
Starting point is 00:24:39 we were playing, Ocho, we had already played. So it was a lot of familiarity. And we felt that because they beat us, they really weren't going to change anything. Which gave us an opportunity to change a lot about what we did. Because if I win Ocho, why would I
Starting point is 00:24:55 change anything? I won. We knew that. We know you're not going to change anything. Can't help yourself. Now we took advantage of that. But't help yourself. Then now we take it. Now we took advantage of that, but it's tough.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But like I said, Ocho, I think me personally, I think the Steelers overachieved. I don't think they're a great team. I don't look at them as a great team. You don't think so? They're not a great team offensively.
Starting point is 00:25:22 They're a great team defensively. That's their identity. Their identity has always been offense. Well, as opposed to when Roethlisberger was there, they were all for the juggernaut then. Even the defense was good. Here's the thing. The Steelers have always prided themselves on defense
Starting point is 00:25:37 until they got big Ben, and then all of a sudden they started getting those receivers and they started throwing the football. So when they had Ben, they had Le'Veon, they had A.B., they was like, we're just going to outscore you. Oh, absolutely, because they could run it, they could throw it. The defense was good, but the championship-level teams that they had, it was still a defensive-based football team.
Starting point is 00:26:01 When they had Lamar Woodley, they had James Harrison, they had Farrier, they had Foote, they hadley, they had James Harrison, they had Farrier, they had Foote, they had Troy, they had Ike, they had Ryan Clark. They were the best team. Ocho. Seahawks rookie DT,
Starting point is 00:26:14 Byron Murphy II, took his teammates out for dinner and was pranked with a fake dinner bill of $155,000. His reaction was priceless. His actual dinner bill wasn't much better. It was $38,000. His reaction was priceless. His actual dinner bill wasn't much better. It was $38,000. Hey, that's good.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Ocho, did y'all ever prank the rooks? Listen, when I was a veteran, I didn't make the rookies do rookie night. I didn't. Now, when I was a rookie, I'll never forget Peter Ward, Darnay Scott, Ron Dugans, Danny Farmer was there at the time, TJ. Now, I had to pay for rookie dinner that night.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I can't remember what the price was, but it was a little hefty, but $38,000 thinking about that, that ain't much, y'all. That ain't much. When you look at some of the linemen, when the linemen go out, man, I've seen some of those
Starting point is 00:27:10 receipts when them boys go out. Boy, it be expensive. Well, you start ordering that King Louie at $500 or $1,000 a shot. You get like 15 shots of that and then they're going to order a bottle of wine that end up costing like $1,000 a shot. They do it on purpose. You get like 15 shots of that and then they're going to order
Starting point is 00:27:25 that big one. They're going to order a bottle of wine that end up costing like 10 grand. You get the big one. You get the lobster. You know, they bring the lobster around on the wagon. The lobster this big.
Starting point is 00:27:35 The wagon, y'all, I know y'all seen it. They bring the lobster around in the wagon. He think he going for a ride. Little do he know. Hey, them boys, they don't be playing, boy. They don't be playing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Look, Portis and Ashley Lillie, they're rookie night out. We hit them for about $22,000. See, that ain't bad. You know, me, I had to have a, I had a limo, you know, because I didn't want nobody
Starting point is 00:28:08 because they're going to go other places. I had a relationship. Y'all nothing to get me broken up in the middle of the season. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I know I know my I know my
Starting point is 00:28:25 I ain't fooling with y'all same thing I tell my homeboys when they come you know hey sharp come on let's go I know bro no no no no no no you nothing to mess with my home right no absolutely not I give some of my tea hey bro you going out yeah man
Starting point is 00:28:41 hey my homeboys in town man sharp you know we got them. Hey. There you go. You good. Yeah. But other than that, Ocho. Now, listen, if you're a rookie and you're not only a rookie and you're a first-round pick, man, listen.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Oh, we break you across the door. Well, they coming to get you. Because I got a limo. I got a limo because I got a limo by myself. Dad sent a limo for me because I wasn't going out with them. Ocho, I wasn't going out with them oh i wasn't going out with them afterwards so i needed a limo that was gonna take me back because i ain't want a no no no no i'm going home so but you know back there i think you had to get limo for like for like five six hours seven hours it was probably like a hundred dollars an hour it wasn't no nothing like that but uh the only thing i made sure about you i wouldn't let you get stuff to take home i don't
Starting point is 00:29:31 care if your mom i don't care if your dad i don't care if anything you're not getting stuff no no no no i'm not gonna no no no we're not gonna do that us us us so that was uh that was uh like 22 000 i mean you know we you know the guys order king lloyd they order you know like a 15th uh uh patroos bolliver you know uh wine or rough child whatever it was they get a couple of bottles that i said bro y'all but you know they gotta get they gotta get the most expensive steak. They got to get the lobster. They got to get everything. So it didn't cost them.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I mean, $22,000 wasn't that much. But, oh, yeah, you're going to pay. Oh, yeah. If somebody say, oh, I wouldn't pay. Oh, yeah, you would. We're going to take it out your check. You're going to pay. You're going to pay.
Starting point is 00:30:22 We're not going to allow you a tradition that's been handed down, the first round draft pick, second round draft pick. A lot of times, we let them, y'all pull together. A lot of times, the first round, they had to pay dinner for themselves. I remember they hit my brother. I think they hit my brother for like $12,000, $13,000. But the thing is, is that you got to do that. If you're a rookie, you got to do that. If you're a rookie,
Starting point is 00:30:47 you got to bring donuts. You got to bring breakfast sandwiches. You got to bring food to the plane. I did it. You don't know how many times I'm hustling and bustling. I'm dressed like Jethro Bodine, tie hanging all up. Man, about to fall up my ass. Man, don't, don't laugh,
Starting point is 00:31:05 because I got to go. Man, he want Kentucky Fried Chicken. He want Popeyes. He want this. I got to go all the way to the place, man. Oh, hell no. That's why I was like, I got to make the team. All this they got me doing, I'm going to have me somebody do this for me.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh, man. Hell nah. But we did all that rookie singing. I went big into the hazing. We made rookie sing. You know, we might steal their car and drive that off or something like that. But all that, I ain't cut nobody hair because ain't nobody cut my hair because it really been a bit of some.
Starting point is 00:31:43 You cut my hair, it's going to be a some cut my hair it's going to be a problem so we're not going to do that we didn't cut anybody's hair you know at Baltimore we take the rookies to the goalpost put them in the cold tub put them in the cold tub yeah we tape them up and put them in the cold tub
Starting point is 00:32:01 stuff like that Ocho but mainly we make them sing not your album I don't want to hear about your album but I don't want to hear about your fight song I don't want to hear about your album model you got to sing some Luther Vandross Barry White I don't care whenever you know the words to other than your damn fight song
Starting point is 00:32:17 so uh but yeah but that was that was uh yeah uh that was back in the day that was back in yeah we used to steal's cars and stuff like that. It's funny because the past time, it's like grown men, but we behaved like eight, seven, eight-year-olds. That's the kids, yeah. Oh, there was some good days.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Armond Ross St. Brown thinks the NFL should make a rule change. No, we're not going to change the rule because y'all might lose the game and be a 14-win team and go on the road. That ain't how we do it. It's been like that, Ocho. So, listen, they're going to Minnesota, right? They play Minnesota tomorrow. No, Minnesota comes to them.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, Minnesota comes to them? Yes. So? They already beat Minnesota on the walk-on. They kicked a field goal. What is he complaining about then because they might lose be 14-0
Starting point is 00:33:09 and they have to start the season on the road yeah listen that's nothing you should even worry about especially that goddamn high-powered offense
Starting point is 00:33:16 there should be nothing you worry about whether you're playing home or away I understand the advantage that teams have playing at home
Starting point is 00:33:23 but listen the way y'all rocking offensively right now I wouldn't care if we was playing in Sahara Desert I understand the advantage that player that teams have playing at home, but missing the weight, the way y'all rocking offensively right now, I wouldn't care if we was playing in Sahara desert, as long as Dan Campbell is my coach and he got that wheelbarrow with him. Go on this. He carried him every time he's coaching. I'm not tripping.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I am not tripping. Yeah. He, uh, so I don't agree. Um, he... So, I don't agree. I think you and I both, we don't agree because the rules are the rules. We're not going to change the rules
Starting point is 00:33:51 because we have an anomaly. How many times a 14-win team has had to start on the road? So, one time it happened in the... 100-plus year history. Now, we're going to make a rule. So, what... It was a great suggestion. Yeah, but the team... 100 plus year history now we gonna make a rule so what nah it was a great suggestion yeah but
Starting point is 00:34:08 but the team you know and how y'all are playing on the road and at home it really don't matter it don't matter so no
Starting point is 00:34:17 what he's saying though Ocho is that if we have a better record than a division winner we should be at home and they should have to go on the road. Okay, I see what you're saying. No, they won the division.
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