Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Firing Family members, BBLs at airports & why sex isn't a team sport
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all right ocho it's time for our first segment of tonight and it's called a news
cap news cap. News cap.
Okay, let me stretch.
Let me stretch.
I'm getting old, boy.
We've heard Charles Barkley say,
Banassas Atichakumpo,
which is Giannis' brother,
has better job security
than Supreme Court justice
because Supreme Court justice,
they're elected for life. Well, Giannis just threw more fuel on the fire when he revealed
that the Nassus, that he rejected a deal from Adidas for Nike because of his brother.
The Nassus said we were waiting for 45 minutes and then they brought the contract in and put
it in front of me. I was like, OK, great. Where's my brothers? And he was like, no, we're going to sign your brother.
We're not going to sign your brother today.
We're going to sign yours first
and then we'll bring your brother
during the weekend to sign.
No, thank you.
I like it.
That's what I'm talking about.
Because you know what?
Most of the time,
this is what we,
more of us,
very few of us
are in positions
to bring each other on.
Mm-hmm. Very few of us
get the opportunity
to bring family on.
Very. It happens very seldom.
I like what he's doing.
I love it. And not very many people
can do this. Now, when we talk about NBA, we talk about
NBA-type money.
If you can turn down an
eight-figure deal for a shoe deal
from Adidas,
you already have
fuck you money.
Only then
when you already have
fuck you money
can you say,
you know what,
if you can't sign my brother,
don't worry about it.
I'm not signing with you.
I love it.
When you make the kind of money
Giannis is making,
you can do that.
Now, everybody is not
as fortunate
to be in that type of position
to do so. But if you are,
anytime you can bring your family
on and put them on in any way,
this is awesome. I like
it. If
I had the leverage, you know,
based on me not playing football and if I
happen to be an NBA player
and I would take advantage of these opportunities
as well. Because you have to.
You see Giannis in the commercials
most of the time
his brother's in there with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Earlier in my career,
Ocho,
my brother was who he was
and he would do a car signing.
He wouldn't do a car signing
unless they brought me.
For real?
Hey, that's dope.
That's dope.
You know, hey,
throw him something. $2,500, $3,000. Hey, give's dope. That's dope. You know, hey, throw him something.
$2,500, $3,000.
Hey, give him something.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't have a problem.
And my thing is that you're right.
A lot of us, when we get in position and we can help, like this.
But, oh, you have absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, I wish my kid would want to be in this family
huh yeah this is family though now we talk about a brother yeah yeah sometimes it's a little
different sometimes you all you got an entourage and listen everybody can't go now oh no oh no
isn't everybody can't go now oh joe come on you know, listen, you know who you can vouch for.
Right.
I got homeboys.
Hey, this is what they can do.
I'm not going to make you president of my company.
You might be because it can be security.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, that's what you can do.
I'm not going to give you no role that you're not qualified for,
but put you in a role just because you're my homeboy.
It's not going to work like that.
Yes, I'm going to put you on in a role that I know that you can handle.
Right.
But you best believe.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I wish my kids wanted to do media.
Guess what?
They'd be working with daddy side by side.
But that ain't what they want to do.
And I'm fine with that. But oh, no, no, no, absolutely not, Ocho. be right they'd be working with daddy side by side but that ain't what they want to do and i'm
fine with that but oh no no no absolutely not oh joe everybody everybody can't go where you go
yeah hey you remember you was growing up and you asked your granddad or your grandma hey can i go
no you can't go boy you can't go everywhere everybody go everybody go and you and you have
to be okay with that and you can't
feel guilty about leaving some people behind behind yeah you can't you can't but hey listen
and it's so it's that is such a dope thing and it's very few yeah very few that can pull that
off and you're honestly one of the few oh i was just gonna say it LeBron can do it
yes
um
I think
I think a KD could do it
if he had someone close
a brother that
that played a game of basketball
as well
some of these
these uh
I'm trying to think of
other names in the NBA
that have the
the
the cojones
well
Steph
oh yeah
Steph
yeah
well
wait Steph wait wasn't didn't didn't they play together or no am I tripping Juanes. Well, Steph. Oh, yeah, Steph. Yeah. Well,
wait,
Steph,
wait,
wasn't,
didn't, didn't they play together or no?
Am I tripping?
I think they might've played.
They might've played a year.
Well,
his brother-in-law,
his brother-in-law played with it.
Lee,
his brother-in-law,
he married Steph's sister.
Oh,
okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Very,
very,
very few can do that.
Can you imagine?
Steph's brother married Doc's daughter.
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I wanted the chat to understand the kind of money you got to be making
to turn down an eight-figure shoe deal.
But he honest.
They want it.
They want it.
And now it used to be you have a shoe deal once you retired
the shoe deal went away
but it's no longer like that since Jordan
it lives on you see
Kobe, Kobe live on
Kobe it seems to me
Kobe is the new Jordan I see more
players wearing Jordans
wearing Kobe's than they were Jordan's.
But Jordan
determines, somebody was telling me,
Jordan doesn't let you wear, you have
to wear the brand Jordan. You don't get to wear
his exclusive. His shoe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right. You know
what's funny when I think about it? I don't
think his shoes are that
comfortable to play in-game anyway
if I'm not mistaken. Who, Jordan? Yeah. Oh, they look good. I don't think his shoes are that comfortable to play in game anyway, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.
Oh, they look good.
They look good.
They're more for fashion now.
Jordans are more about fashion than performance.
Yeah, you know, the funny thing is people always make fun of me.
The few times that I have gone to play basketball with some friends of mine down here in Miami,
and they always make fun of me.
I wear my Jordan 1s. You know the old school Jordan 1s?
Yeah.
I wear my Jordan 1s to go hoop, and people looking at me crazy like,
boy, what is you doing? You don't have no ankle support, no nothing. I say, bro,
I need to feel the ground. It's really weird. I need to feel the ground. So when I played football,
obviously I was a Reebok during that time
because Reebok had the NFL licenses.
Yes, yes.
I had Reebok take all the lining,
all the support out of my shoe.
So all it was was a shell,
a cleat and shoelaces.
So basically like a track spike.
You know what I mean?
I need to feel the floor and I don't like
ankle support
it's weird and I'm one of the few
every time I say something or I talk to players
they ask me why your shoes look like that
they do, I just have to feel
the floor, I don't know why, it's just
weird
I totally agree with you Ojo
I mean, like I said i mean if you if you have if you
can possess that cap it happens all the time yeah they do it all the time oh yes they do yes they do
because therefore they're afforded more opportunities to do it they do it all the time yeah yeah yeah
coach reed has his coach andy reed had his son working with him coach had his son working with him. Coach Belichick had his son working with him.
But we feel, nah, we can't do that.
People are going to think it's nepotism.
I don't give a damn what y'all think.
My company, I'm going to do it.
Right.
Because that's how a lot of coaches,
that's how a lot of these younger coaches get started.
How you think Kyle got started?
Oh, yeah.
Kubiak,
who might gave the opportunity
to be the offensive coordinator,
when Kub got the job
at the Houston Texans,
guess who became
his offensive coordinator?
Kyle.
Kyle, yeah.
But also,
when you're afforded
these opportunities,
you know when it come to us,
now you know we be bulljabbing there.
Yeah.
You know we be bulljabbing.
You put somebody on
and they don't be wanting to do right.
Oh, but that's...
You already know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, come on, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, old boy.
Yeah, yeah.
You know exactly what I'm talking about.
So, listen,
if you do or you are in that situation
and have the opportunity
or you're afforded the opportunity
to put someone
close, close, close family member,
be sure they understand
the situation at hand
and take it serious.
Yes.
Got to take it serious.
Yeah. And with any... Oh, that's with anything. Man, serious. Yes. Got to take it serious. Yeah.
And even with it.
Oh,
that's with anything.
Man,
how many times you think people,
Hey,
Hey,
homeboy,
let your boy.
Hey,
see your boy.
A couple of bottles of that liquor.
I like bro.
So,
Oh,
you didn't got that call before.
You didn't got that call.
So I'm saying,
don't show.
I say,
so let me get this straight.
So now I'm a partner with five other guys.
So just think about it.
All my other four partners, every time somebody said, we done gave away the profit.
We ain't making no money.
We just giving it away.
Right.
I'm like, bro, I don't want a nonprofit.
Hey, man, you know, the hoodie, man.
I saw that hoodie, boy.
Let your boy get, bro.
I say, you know, you didn't call Gucci or Louis and tell them to hook you up?
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
We got to stop that.
Hey, I just want an opportunity to pay for it.
Right.
I don't ask for nothing.
I ain't never asked for anybody.
Hey, I'll pay for it.
I just want an opportunity to be able to purchase it.
But you're absolutely right, Ocho.
It's sometimes that we put people in position
and then they take advantage of our kindness.
Yeah.
Man, come on, man.
I really got to work.
Yes, you really got to work.
Yeah.
It's a job.
That's why I really, honestly, Ocho,
I try to stay away from that.
I really do.
I really do, Ocho. Because try to stay away from that. I really do. I really do, Ocho.
Because I don't want that situation to ruin a 5 or 10 or 15 or 20-year friendship or relationship.
And that's what'll happen.
Because I'll fire your ass.
I'm running a business, Ocho.
I'm a business.
That's why I can't do that.
I don't want to put myself in position where I have to make that kind of decision, where I have to fire or chastise someone that's close to me, especially family.
That's bad.
I just, I can't do it.
Can you imagine?
Do you think you could fire somebody close to you?
Stop playing with me, Ocho.
Oh, you took a long time.
No.
You had to think about it?
Everybody,
everybody has responsibilities.
Everybody has obligations.
Oh, so you,
you don't, you, you,
if they, if they messing up,
you ain't got no problem firing family
none
none
well you
you better than me
none
we got
because everybody
everybody has a
responsibility
we are a team
yeah
and we're only as strong
as the weakest link
because if the link
is weak
it's gonna break
hold on stay right there stay stay right there Because if the link is weak, it's going to break.
Hold on.
Stay right there.
Stay right there.
I'm not letting that one get away.
I'm going to use this in my next argument.
I'm going to use that.
We are a team.
We are a team. We are a team.
We are.
We are.
Yes.
And we only as strong as our weakest link?
We're only strong as the weakest link.
All right.
Because, Ocho, when you play football,
what do they always try to get you matched up on?
The weakest corner?
If you could have, look, hey, I'll take the challenge,
but if I could have born Revis and get me 250 yards,
why would I go bang my head, tussling and grabbing with him,
with the slot guy, the slot.
I know I can go beat him for three touchdowns today.
Right.
So that's what you try to do.
You try to put yourself in a situation
that everything is united.
It's a united front.
Everybody has to want the same thing.
Ooh, that's a good one.
Oh, I'm finna kill it
I'm finna kill it with that one
Ash asked my brother
she's like
would you want to work with your brother
he said nah
he said he take it too serious
and he work too hard
he said he fired me
but you wouldn't have to do no
he said I don't want to do no lifting
because I know him y'all don't want to do no lifting because I know
him so y'all don't know him
I know him right
y'all just see the good side of it
he told him he
told Ash that when we went to Savannah State
he showed up ask him
would he want to do something with me
he said no
he too serious he works too hard
I ain't trying to work that hard no more Ash
that's what he told her. I ain't trying to work that hard no more, Ash.
That's what he told her.
Man, I can't see you firing. I can't see you firing Sterling now.
Ash, what did he tell you? I can't
see that. Ash told me, I'm still not
giving up.
He knows.
He knows, man.
Tell Sterling
get on one night with his man.
Man, please.
He's going to have to be at the golf course.
He'll stop by the golf course.
He'll stop by the golf course,
but you understand that.
Oh, that'd be live, man.
Goddamn.
No, but that's how you have to have it, Ocho.
Everybody has to have a common interest.
Everybody has to be with... Everybody needs to be obsessed.
Because if you look at how Google started, look at how Amazon started, look how Microsoft started.
Three friends that were obsessed.
They were equally invested.
Not one guy, man, well, you know, I can't come tonight because I got to go such and such.
Right.
No, we all got to be involved
in this thing.
So, no.
You know what's fascinating
with those things you just said?
When it comes to Google,
when it comes to Amazon,
how friends came about
and thought of something
that the masses needed.
Yeah.
Thought of something
that the masses needed.
And if you can think of a plan that the world
needs you can become a billionaire yeah for sure that's that's crazy how that works yeah
who would have thought of amazon being able to deliver packages next day worldwide globally like how do you even start something like that
ocho do you realize google tried to sell itself to yahoo for a billion dollars and yahoo said no
it's all you overpriced now google is probably worth a trillion and yahoo's out of business
business yeah see how they work see how god work hey see how God work? Hey! See how God work? Well, we're not going to have a trillion-dollar company,
but I need people that want to work.
And that's what I tell them.
It's like, look, when people are like,
man, I want a podcast.
I say, you do realize there's more than a microphone and a camera.
Yeah. Yeah, much more than that.
Yeah.
Much more than that.
People won't full-time pay for part-time work.
Not a job. Ooh. You see, Ocho? How can I work? People want full-time pay for part-time work.
You see, Ocho?
How can I work because see, they done got jumped on YouTube
and they done saw IG.
I make $17 trillion
a year and I only work
two days a year.
Really?
Really?
Only in the dictionary does success
come before work
yeah oh
I like that
wait a minute hold on
that's a good one right there
only in the dictionary
does success come before work
yeah
like come on man no but like I said dictionary does success come before work? Yeah. Come on, man.
No, but like I said,
I try to keep
it separate.
But my brother knows
we're all wired the same
way.
I give my
sister jobs that she can handle.
And that way,
you know, because at the end of the day,
I understand.
We're going to be brothers. We're going to be
family.
You get the firing
people, but it's going to get
shaky. Where they going to go?
I still pay the bill.
Where the hell they going to go? Right, right, bill. Where the hell they going to go?
Right, right, right.
That's why I can't do it.
I would always keep my family, my brothers.
Obviously, my kids are much older now.
If at any point they want to, you can't work for me.
It ain't going to work.
It ain't going to work.
Yeah, well.
I don't want no conflict.
I don't want to be combative.
I don't want to argue about nothing. I don't want to argue about it. I don't want to argue about nothing.
I just can't.
Let's just keep it as is.
I can't do it.
Can you imagine me having to fire one of my kids?
They playing around on the job.
And, you know, no, I can't do it.
No, I can't do it.
No, look, I think the thing is, Ojo, is that, yeah, you try to keep it.
Now, if if one of my kids went was in media or one journalism or want to do something, they want to be a producer or director or something.
And I want to start here. OK, but they they went and, you know, daughters graduate med school, sons and medical sales.
My daughter's in H.R. That's. That wasn't what they wanted to do. And so to
try to get them to come over here,
what are they going to do?
Take Shelly's job, be my
assistant?
They don't
do what Ash does, do it. No.
That's not what they want to do.
Wimby reportedly declined
Drake's offer to come on stage since his teammates couldn't join apparently
there's a drake concert there was a drake concert in austin and wimpy got asked to come on stage
wimpy asked if his teammates could come up on stage drake camp like no women said then i don't
want to do it ah team player if one go we go. When women go out at night,
when one leave,
we all leave.
You got to leave it with that dude.
Team player.
You always bring you one homeboy
that's going to take it for the team.
Because you know
they're going to be,
they might be
two or three nines or tens,
but they're going to be
about three or four
twos and fues.
You know that.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
So you got to have a homeboy
that's an ace.
That's willing to take one
for the team, huh?
Yeah.
You got to have that.
Yeah.
Drake got to understand that.
Drake got to understand that.
You know, if Wimby's there,
you know he got his partners with him.
Yes. You know he got his teammates with him. Everybody got to get, everybody got to understand that, you know, if Wimby's there, you know he got his partners with him. Yes.
You know he got his teammates
with him.
Everybody got to get,
everybody got to get love.
Everybody got to get love.
In order to catch a lion,
sometimes you got
to sacrifice a goat.
Yeah.
Boy, hell no, boy.
I can't wait.
Oh, boy.
Boy,
well, you on fire tonight.
So, my homeboy is that sacrificial goat.
Yeah.
In order to catch a lion, you got to sacrifice a goat.
Yeah, so that's what my homeboy for.
I got this one homeboy.
Hey, ain't no problem.
But you know, hey, he done been drinking.
He looking at bad looking.
Right.
She looking like Halle Berry to him.
He don't know the difference
please
and you know hey you know alcohol
was the original filter
I don't know who did develop the
filter on IG and social media
but alcohol was the original
filter
you like
I ain't never drank she stacked up right man look here original filter. You be drinking that stuff, you like, ooh, a lot of perfect.
She stacked up.
Man, look here.
Wait, alcohol messes with the senses like that
to where it makes someone appear
a little bit more appealing than they actually are?
It makes you think you can fly.
So what if when you're looking at this woman
at 2 o'clock, at midnight,
and you done had about five or six...
Are you serious?
Absolutely, yes.
Absolutely. Wait a minute. Okay you serious? Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely.
Wait a minute.
Okay.
Time out.
Time out.
Chat, y'all excuse me
for being and sounding lame.
I don't drink alcohol.
So I'm trying to
give me a better understanding
on how someone
consuming alcohol
It breaks down your inhibitions.
that can make someone appear
more physically appealing
from the eye because of what you drink.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Yes.
That's why they call them beer goggles.
That's why they call them beer goggles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She looked good when you were drunk.
But now you sober.
Yes.
That happened.
Hey, that's the original.
Ask anybody to chat.
Now, that's a new one for me.
I ain't never heard.
I ain't never heard that.
Yes.
I was drunk.
So this individual looks a little bit better than they do when I was when I was sober.
She might be a two.
You get enough drinks.
You'll be a 10.
Give me an hour. She started out as a two and an sober. She might be a two, you get enough drinks, she'll be a 10. Give me an hour.
She started out as a two,
in an hour, she was a 10.
Oh, man, that's funny.
Now, that's funny.
But see, my homeboy,
they ain't need no alcohol.
Gotcha.
I'd never left home without it.
He's like an American Express car
when I was in high school
because I already know he's going to take it.
I already know.
Sharp, I got you.
Nah, you know my
friend, I ain't got nobody.
I brought somebody for your friend.
I couldn't leave your friend out.
Your friend is my friend.
She a
high three too. High three.
Too infused.
Look, you know how women travel hey look here
hey look on the Serengeti
all the wildebeest and the
kudu and
the antelope they not all
the same speed
all the women that's in together
all of them ain't nines and tens now
stop that just like everybody in the group everybody that we travel with All the women that's in together, all of them ain't nines and tens now. Stop that.
Just like everybody in the group, everybody that we travel with ain't professional athletes, ain't got deep pockets.
We understand that.
Home girl probably got one that go take one for the team too.
Team two.
Y'all out there talking about Shanna, I can't believe you got some home, girl. That'll take one for the team.
So you can go be with a Drake or
whomever else that's interested
in you. Every time.
Every time. The game is a game.
It ain't never changed. It is what it is.
You just got to learn how to play it.
Hey.
Take one for the team. That's crazy.
Hey, that
brings back memories, man.
Damn!
That's neither here nor there, but it does bring back memories.
Yeah, hey.
Hmm?
Hey.
True story.
I had a homeboy, told a chick.
He said, look here.
He said, you ugly,
I'm ugly.
Let's go fuck our ugly self to death.
Real thoughts,
what a guy.
I put it right now, right down what he told me.
He said, you ugly.
He was talking about,
you were born with a lot.
I'm ugly too.
That's why we work together.
Now, come on.
Oh, man.
That's good.
Look here.
I promise you.
I know people think, you know, I might add a little yeast to the story every once in a while.
But that is 1,000%.
Everything I said, Ocho,
I make it funny, but everything
I said is true.
He's on to that.
Straight out.
I'm ugly.
You ugly. I'm ugly.
You ugly. Might as well. We might as well make it do what it do.
Make it her legal.
I don't give a fuck how ugly she has to be.
I ain't ugly. I ain't gonna work
I ain't gonna work today
you can't
you can't tell
you can't tell nobody
they are not appealing
to the eye
everybody
believes they are
a nine or a ten
you know what I mean
and you about to run
a car guy
yeah
ain't no telling
man please don't kill her.
Oh.
Man, please, don't joke.
Man, please, they better stop.
I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
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Ocho, have you seen the viral video of a text message screenshot between a client and a last tech?
A last tech in Chicago had her Mercedes being set on fire by an angry customer.
The client drove an hour to the last tech, refused to squeeze her in on the
date's promise, and the client
set the last tech's car on fire.
And the car was on
surveillance. There was a surveillance video
of showing it happening. Look at this,
Ojo.
Ooh.
Hey, boy, listen. It's one thing about women there are two things they don't play with
they don't play about they upkeep women do not play about they upkeep
now listen i'm sure maybe the chat knows for those that do know me throughout the years i do lashes so i understand what this
woman is going through i understand what she's going through i don't condone that you don't put
you don't touch nobody else's belongings yeah you gotta pay for that yeah you don't you don't you
don't do nothing like that no but when it comes to lashes i understand the importance of it because
a set of lashes can change everything about your appearance.
Yeah.
Everything.
Yeah.
Everything.
And people in the chat, ladies, if y'all need some lashes, you can go check my work on my YouTube tutorial.
I can do whatever you want.
If you're in a rush, I can do strips.
If you want minks, I can do minks.
I can do individuals.
Hybrid, mega volume, classic.
Let me know what you need.
Volume, I do it all.
I don't need that.
I don't need that.
Not you, not you.
I'm just trying to plug.
I'm just plugging my business.
I'm just plugging my business.
I get it, Ocho.
But I mean, I ain't really.
Look, I was out the game.
So I didn't really know anything. I ain't know
nothing about no BBLs, about no fake
lashes. I ain't know nothing about no fake nothing
because I was in a relationship. So I ain't know
nothing about that. Wait, if you was
in a relationship, she, I mean, that's a part
of her upkeep. No, no, no. She didn't have no BBLs.
Her lashes were
naturally long.
Long? Okay, okay, okay, okay.
We all ain't able. We all ain. Okay. Okay. Okay. We, we all ain't able.
We all ain't able.
And so I was like,
till I came to California.
Now I knew about,
you know,
getting your eyebrows and stuff like that.
Cause I let my daughter.
Right.
To me and to go and get my,
my eyebrows threaded.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Me and my son,
she told me,
come on daddy.
It don't hurt.
I'm like, he asked my son, I said, key, you going to do it? i'm like he i told my son said key you gonna do it he's like yeah i'll do it if you do it i said okay but see he got thick brows he got right right yeah he got it yeah yeah yeah man we both up in
that chair crying man that that's ready yeah i. I said, oh, Lord.
After my kid coming down my bed,
I say, oh, no.
Never, ever would I do this.
That's it.
One time, you out, huh?
Mm-mm.
I remember.
I don't know what the hell I was thinking
letting her talk me and kid to that bull jive.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
I'll never forget.
I took classes when I was in college.
When I was at Santa Monica Junior College,
I took cosmetology classes.
And obviously I was taking it
because I needed the credit
just to be able to play,
to get on the field.
But then I started,
this is the funny thing about it,
I started to take the classes serious
and I got a better understanding about,
you know what,
I thought about how much money I could save.
Look about the money I could save if I'm dealing with a woman.
I don't have to pay for her upkeep.
I'll pay for it.
I ain't paying for it when I can do it myself.
So I'm like a one-stop shop.
Listen, I can do your hair.
I can do your nails.
I can do your makeup.
I can do makeup and all.
I do all that.
I do makeup.
I can do wigs, lace front.
I can braid.
Matter of fact,
it's so funny.
Three of the best,
three of the best hairstylists
right now in the world.
Black folk.
Yeah.
You know,
I put them on.
I put them on.
I don't ask for no credit.
I just let them act like
they do everything.
They color wigs.
They lay wigs.
Listen,
and I hope one day
they give my credit.
Arrogant Tay,
I know you're going to see this.
Anytime you want to give my credit.
Lonzo,
Lonzo,
Jonathan,
tell them who put you on.
Like,
I started them boys
in that business
of,
you know,
boom,
nigga,
laying it down to the T.
Well,
I was one of the best in college
when it came to doing wigs
and coloring wigs
and doing lace fronts
and installing.
Like, I did that.
That was me.
But I had to go play football.
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Doing hair wasn't in my ministry
unless it had to do with my woman.
You feel me?
Mm-hmm.
But anyway,
I just wanted to share that little piece.
My sister used to share that little piece.
My sister used to tweeze her eyebrows.
Wait, that hurt.
Yeah.
And then draw some in.
I said, why don't you just leave them?
What the hell? What the hell?
I was like, oh, shit.
Why don't you block them out?
Are you serious?
Did you draw them all in?
Yes. I was like oh shit why you pluck them out you serious yes I knew
I knew
I went to
I went to school
with a girl
she plucked the eyelashes
she plucked the eyelashes
wait
she plucked the eyelashes
and then put strips in
obviously
no
she had no eyelashes
I don't know if she got some now
but that's what she did
in high school
ah
women
women do
women will do to and that's what she did in high school. Women will do
two, two, and that's for guys.
Women will go all out.
Man, Ocho, I put it out.
Women said they don't do nothing
for men. This is for
them. This is for
their upkeep
so they can feel better about themselves.
Ocho, I saw a lady
working in the airport,
not walking through it
with a BBL.
Well,
how do you know that?
You see what you did?
You see what you did?
I said the same thing.
I was like,
what?
But what if,
what if it was natural?
Because, you know,
our women,
our women are born.
You know you a BBL.
You can't have a turkey drumstick on a toothpick
and talk about it's real.
Oh, okay, okay.
It ain't matching.
It wasn't matching.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
I understand.
I understand.
But you have to understand what it does now.
You know, men, we are visual creatures.
We are visual creatures.
So women have a great understanding that the better,
if you enhance your appearance.
Well, you wouldn't be Jordan.
Jordan.
Jordan.
As a matter of fact, Jordan was laughing.
I said, Jordan, why she?
Right.
Hey, Jordan, you know a lot of men be passing through the airport.
She tried to get one.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's exactly what I was getting ready to say.
Your Jordan was with me.
Yeah.
I said, Jordan, I said, Jordan, why she do that?
Jordan just done me.
Talk about, oh, you know, you know, men be coming through the airport.
Hey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get a number and through the airport. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get a number and come back.
I say, man, stop it.
I think that's why a lot of women do it.
Obviously, obviously for themselves.
But the appearance, when you want to enhance your appearance, it increases the volume of men trying to get at you.
A different type of a different type of man.
But hold on, though.
Yeah, you do realize
every three years they change the body style on a car.
Yes, sir.
So, you know the BBL now.
It's about time to change
the body style on a woman, right?
Okay, now.
Okay.
Do you think curves will ever go away?
Curves will never go out of style
depending on where you're from.
There used to be a time that curves wasn't in style.
Everybody wanted flat boots.
Except the sisters, they couldn't do nothing about it.
Oh, okay.
I'm going for the same.
They wanted big...
They had big chest ironing boards.
The sisters always had...
The sisters had little chest and big butts.
They always had them donkeys.
Right.
I don't think that'll ever go anywhere, though.
I don't think it'll ever go anywhere.
I don't think the evolution of the ass will never die.
I see more women doing glute videos, doing sumo squats, belt squats, Bulgarian split lunges, lunges and all that.
Trying to get rid of that.
Yeah, trying to accentuate it.
Okay.
You're right. I mean, to each his own.
Yeah, for sure. I don't knock
nobody. That's you.
I just ain't going to pay for it now. I'm just telling you now.
I got limits or not.
Wait, you got limits?
Yeah, I ain't going to pay for that.
You pay all the bills. You buy Chanel bags.
I'm not. You buy Chanel bags. I'm not.
You buy Birkins.
What did I tell you?
You don't want to get no BBL?
What did I tell you my grandfather say?
Be careful fattening frogs for another snake to eat.
Now, you putting all them BBLs, and you putting them fillers in,
and you putting them boobs in, and another snake going to come right along,
and that frog that you fattened up, another snake
gonna eat it.
That's a good one right there.
Now you said, hey, give me the stuff
back that you gave her because
you not gonna let her have it out on a date with another
dude. Now just imagine
them old
nice tender plump lips
kissing on him
and doing other things.
I can't even talk about it on digital.
Them lips, yeah.
Yeah, that's that hurt.
That's that hurt there.
Just the thought of it.
But I need all mine back.
I'm just saying,
at any point,
I'm just obviously speaking hypothetical.
If I paid for
your breasts to get done, If I paid for You know
Your breasts to get done
If I paid for your lips
Or if I paid for
You know
Your body
Just whatever it might be
And we don't work out
I need
I need them C-cups
I need them C-cups back
Man
I need them C-cups back
I need that ass back Give me I need all that Run me that Run. Man, you ain't getting them back. Man, I need them C-cups back. I need that ass back.
Give me, I need all that.
Run me that.
Run me that back.
And you had the new dude
send you to Dr. Young Miami,
Dr. Jung, Jung Miami,
down in Houston,
and Dr. Miami let them,
no, I need my ass and my titties back.
And my lip filler.
Give me them lip fillers too.
Matter of fact, you know what?
Take them lashes off too. Because I put them lashes on. Give me them lip fillers too. As a matter of fact, you know what? Take them lashes off too
because I put them lashes on.
Give me them lashes
and then give me that goddamn wig.
I can let my next chick
use that wig.
I mean,
think about it.
They know nice,
full,
plump lips.
The most succulent lips
that you used to bite on.
Yeah.
And somebody else
getting that Gluck Gluck 3000 special.
Yo,
baby,
you rolling over.
Yeah, yeah. Listen,
the game is
the game, huh?
She eating on somebody else's
glizzy. You know, here I used
to be for you, Ocho. Now she
on somebody else's glizzy.
Hey, I used to have
a saying. I used to have a saying.
You know, I've been saying it on Twitter for a very long time.
I've been telling young fellas and preaching for a very long time.
She's not yours. It's just your turn.
Listen, she's not yours. It's just your turn.
Now, if you if you want to change things, you can you can you can you can take it.
To the depths into the courthouse and make it official.
And sometimes,
statistically,
when you look at that,
it's still a case
not yours.
You know,
but, I mean,
it's just life.
It's just the way it is,
huh?
It's the way it is, man.
You know,
you go in
with dreams
and aspirations
of wanting to be
with an individual
for the rest of your life.
Sometimes, it just doesn't work that way.
It don't.
It's just the way it comes.
That's all I'm saying.
Like I said, I ain't got no problem.
Yeah, I'm going to take care of the bills
because once I leave,
he can take that over.
But you ain't fit to take no lips
and all them fillers
and that boot.
Oh, no.
Oh.
I could never let you walk out with that.
But you take them back.
I'm just curious.
You take them back jewelry and purses too?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, you let them keep jewelry and purses?
I let them keep the jewelry.
Oh, Joe.
See, when I say I take it back, I had it.
Right.
But I didn't give it.
Ah.
Because they ticked me off
before they got it
so I still got them
somebody else
gonna be lucky to get that
I got that rail bag
in black
that big gold one she got
I got a
LV
like a limited edition LV
I got a bunch of stuff hey so I got oh I got a bunch of stuff
hey so you like
Drake you got
you got a bunch of stuff
just waiting on the right one
to come along
to be able to bless him
yep
that's dope
that's live
that's live
oh my sister gonna be
walking around
oh my sister
gonna be walking around
with a $25 bag
oh but she got a bunch of them
yeah
yeah
for sure
that's live That's live.
That's live.
I'm just thinking about it, man.
Just like, oh, hell no.
Uh-uh, honey.
You finna leave me?
Let me get that ass and them titties back.
I'm just in general.
Like, if you get somebody.
How you going?
How you going?
I've invested my money to help careful, Oka. How you going, how you going, I've invested my money
to help you with your appearance
and then now you,
oh, we don't work out.
Now you're going to the next man
and he get to play with what I paid for.
Well, I'm going to show you.
I got to bring,
I'm going to bring him down tomorrow.
Tomorrow we're going to do a segment.
I'm going to show you the stuff
that I got, that I got.
For real?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a couple? Yeah. I got a couple of bags.
Yeah, for sure.
That's live.
As a matter of fact, one of them might have Christmas wrapping on it.
I think one of them might have Christmas wrapping on it.
I might have to take it out of Christmas wrapping.
Man, that's crazy.
Now it's time for
this is a good one. Ocho, this is a doozy.
This is a doozy, Ocho. Now it's time
for Nightcap After Dark.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh,
Nightcap After Dark. I got...
Ocho, I'm
very excited for us to talk about this story, Ocho.
Take my jacket off.
Yeah. I'm going to let the story speak for itself.
Let's take a listen, Ocho.
This is the wildest ask uncut we have ever received.
I'm at an absolute loss.
My fiance and I have been together for six years.
We have an amazing relationship, and shortly after we got engaged,
we decided to make our secret fantasy a reality. I asked mye if he would be willing to have a threesome a one-off experience
for us both before we get married we both agreed to doing this and i ended up asking a friend of
mine if she would be willing we all agreed and after a lot of great communication we worked out
what we were okay with and how it would all go down fast forward to the night we all had quite
a bit to drink to be honest the whole night felt like an exciting blur. Last week, she called and dropped
an absolute bombshell on us. She called me when I was at work and told me that she was pregnant.
I don't even have words. Pregnant. Pregante. And that my fiance is a father. I called my fiance
straight away. He said, said oh my god i actually think
the condom did break but i was too drunk to remember or to even think about talking about it
she's decided to keep the baby holy shit i know she says i feel really blindsided i have no idea
what to do how do i even process this my fiance and i do want kids together one day but the idea
of him having a baby with another woman makes me feel sick. How do we explain this to friends and family?
How do we know if this can even work?
I feel so overwhelmed.
I don't know.
Oh, hell nah.
Hell nah.
Boy, hey, man, listen, listen.
I like the energy.
I like the enthusiasm, the spice of the relationship, you know, to do things a little different. I like the energy. I like the enthusiasm, the spice of the relationship,
you know, to do things a little different.
I like that part.
But I don't like the back end.
What you expect?
Anything could go wrong, Ocho.
Wait, listen, the threesome, beautiful idea.
Beautiful idea, having fun, the role playing. Whatever, whatever.
People do different things.
But she got pregnant and she kept it.
She going to keep it, yes.
But she said the girl was her friend.
Okay.
So obviously, not only is it a friend,
it's somebody that you trust and confide in
and understanding that, you know what, we can do this.
I trust you and nothing is going to get out.
And dude just,
and he don't remember.
And then they was drunk when the night was a blur.
Yes.
Oh, come on now.
Every time alcohol,
every time alcohol is involved.
Now first,
now you get people pregnant when you're drunk
and obviously,
and when you get drunk too,
or you drink alcohol,
excuse me,
people start to look better
than they normally do.
Oh, Joe.
Yes.
See.
Oh, hell nah.
Alcohol changes your behavior.
It doesn't change your morals.
You see, alcohol,
see, a drunk mind,
a drunk mouth
is a sober mind thought.
See, because, see, it won't allow you to do anything
you didn't think about at least sober and then drinking gives you the ability it breaks down
the inhibitions things that you wouldn't normally do that's why they call it liquid courage why you
think they call it liquid courage because all of a sudden you you you get this, I can do this. Bruh, you can't fly. We 20 stories up. You can't do it.
Yes, I can.
He realized
but it's too late that he can't fly.
Right. Yes, Ocho.
That's bad.
Ocho, I would never
do a threesome.
Whoa, time out.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
You played in the NFL for a very long time.
You played in the NFL a very long time.
Ocho, you know my saying, Ocho.
I like my women like basketball.
One-on-one and as little dribbling as possible.
I'm going to the paint.
I'm going to back them down, Ocho.
I'm backing them down.
That's all I want, Ocho.
That's all I want, Ocho.
It ain't no two-on two on one it ain't no two
on one ain't none of that i need a one-on-one me and you we at the park okay come on with it now
i'm i'm i'm listen i'm i'm just asking oh no i'm i'm i'm just asking i mean i just
i ain't i ain't never had one i ain't never had one i just i just thought you might have i wouldn't i wouldn't even think about it now i wouldn't think in today's me being
who i am you you won't even get on the elevator with people so i know you think about it now i'm
i was talking about you know 30 30 years ago at some point maybe maybe some time in college
no no I'm on the aisle
by myself I'm primetime
right right right
that's it
that's funny
obviously chat y'all know my
I know my situation I've shared it before
I'm in a position where I can't
I can't handle threesome
and I already got
one right here In the household
Making fun of me now
Can you imagine
So if I
Listen I asked for a threesome
Not only
Am I embarrassing her
I'm going to embarrass
The person that going to know
Oh this is what you got
To sleep with every night
I can't
I can't embarrass
People like that
Yeah
And then
You know people
People ask me
Boy why Why you girl Why she call you 33 Why she call you 33 for people like that. Yeah. And then, you know, people ask me, boy, why your girl,
why she call you 33?
Why she call you 33?
And then,
well, now you know.
Three inches in three minutes.
That's all you get.
That's all you're getting out of me.
I ain't got nothing else for you.
I ain't got nothing else for you.
I can't do it, Ojo.
I can't do it, Ojo.
I can't.
I can't.
Ojo,
you know it's going to go wrong.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, not all the time.
I think I've heard,
I've heard,
I've heard successful threesome stories.
I mean, I'm sure there are successful ones.
And normally,
normally couples that have been married,
have been together for a very long time,
they like to spice their relationship up
and bring somebody into the bedroom.
I've heard the stories
before. I've read it in books.
No, I ain't going to do no
swinging. I ain't going to do no swinging.
Wait, you ain't never been to the
swing club? You don't got to participate.
I've been to the park. I went to the
park. I used to go to the park all the time and I got on the
swing. That's the only swing
that I'm doing. Listen,
I used to jump out the back, land on my feet, drop out the front, do the Simone swing that I'm doing listen come to Miami I used to jump out the back
land on my feet
drop out the front
do the
the Simone Biles
I was doing the Simone Biles
but the Simone Biles
hit me about
you know 360
right
oh no
I think
you know what
I think you should come to Miami
I don't want to go there
stay with me now
I'm going to take you to
the trapeze
or I'm going to take you to Red Velvet
now we ain't got to
we ain't got to participate, but we
can watch. We can do the show
from the Swingers Club.
Yeah. Man, you think I'm going to let
somebody, I'm going to be there while somebody
blow my old lady back out? Oh, no.
And beat the drum,
beat the brakes off my old lady?
I mean. No way.
You got to, you got to.
That's what I'm saying.
No, that's why.
That's what.
That was.
Oh, man.
Hey, hey, look at me.
Hey, y'all know.
Hey, sex is not a team sport.
It's a one on one sport.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah, it depends.
It depends on it depends on who you are. I don't know who I am. That's it. Yeah, it depends. It depends on
who you are.
I don't know who I am.
It's been team. I don't know
part of that, Ocho. No, no.
Man, look, Ocho, I'm in a
different place now. Right, right,
right, right. I'm in a different place. I understand.
But listen. I'm extremely
Ocho. This is what I'm telling you.
No means no. Right. Baby means no. Right what I'm telling you. No means no.
Right.
Baby means no.
Right.
Yes means no tomorrow.
Yes means no.
Hey, bro.
Uh-uh.
Are you sure?
Are you 100% categorically for certain?
Right.
Nah, we go, hey, hey, look here.
We're not going to do this tonight.
Right.
Tomorrow.
I want you to think about this for 24 hours.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
That's funny.
That one night, I would one night say, what?
I ain't never, hey, I ain't going home with you.
At all, huh?
No, no, no.
Damn, punk.
I'm mad.
I'm mad you got to live like that, man. I'm okay. I'm mad.
You got to live like that,
man.
I'm okay.
I'm good.
I'm listening.
I'm thinking about like what we talk about.
I'm thinking about the good days,
the good times,
you know,
as the,
the younger me,
you know,
the,
the,
the having fun and,
and,
you know,
exploring and,
and,
and doing some of the things I would probably never do ever do now in my
fifties.
I would never do it now at 56,
but you know,
it's,
it's,
ah,
man,
just reliving those days and thinking about them.
But don't think I didn't think,
I don't think I didn't think about it now.
Okay.
Oh,
you thought,
okay.
Okay.
Well,
it's one thing to think,
but then it's one thing to think,
but actually putting it in action is much better.
But I just always felt somebody going to dime me out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's tough.
That's tough.
I mean, you always got to do it
with somebody you trust.
Somebody, you know,
long, long 10, 15 year relationships
or friendships in general
are the ones you can trust
when you want to do things.
You know, you want somebody
you just like,
hey, you know,
you see all these movies,
you meet somebody on the plane or you meet somebody at the grocery store. Yeah. And you know, you want somebody you just like, hey, you know, you know, you see all these movies, you meet somebody on the plane or you meet somebody at the grocery store.
Yeah.
And you know, that's that's the that's the that's what I want.
I want somebody I've known 15 years.
They don't fun in that.
OK, I see.
Wait, but known him that long, but never went there.
Never, never, you know, no type of, you know, interest in that way, especially horizontally or vertically.
Yeah.
Depending on what you're into.
All right, Ocho, it's time for your favorite segment right now.
What we got?
What we got?
Bello Cinco.
Hold on.
It's cold as hell in here.
I got to.
Go ahead.
Put the jacket back on.
Nah, I don't need it.
I just want to show y'all, show y'all my head.
I'm ready.
Oh,
oh,
babe.
Oh,
Joe,
you remember last time you were over with that hat,
that hat bad.
Look,
I ain't going over the night.
I ain't going over the night.
Okay.
Oh,
oh,
Joe,
tonight is all current NBA players' names.
You have to spell their last names.
Oh, come on, man.
I don't know them boys like that.
This is the easiest one you're ever going to get.
He played in tonight's game.
He's the point guard for the New Orleans Pelicans,
and his name is C.J. McCollum.
McCollum.
Please use
the word McCollum in a sentence.
C.J. McCollum
missed the last shot tonight
that would have won the game for the Pelicans.
McCollum.
C.J. McCollum.
M-C
C-O-L-L-U-M C.J. McCollum. M-C-C-O-L-L-U-M.
CJ McCollum.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
The next one is Bismarck Biambo.
The last name is Biambo.
What?
Is that, is that, wait a minute.
Is that of Nigerian descent?
I think he's from Congo.
Biambo.
Wait, say it again.
I'm going to get this.
I don't care.
Chat, this is for y'all.
Biambo.
Biambo.
Biambo. Biambo. B-O-M-B-O. B-Y-O-M-B-O.
B-Y-O-M-B-O.
B-Y-O-M-B-O.
B-Y-O-M-B-O.
B-Y-O-M-B-O.
Okay, here we go.
B-I-Y-A-M-B-O.
Close.
Damn.
B-I-Y-O-M-B-O. B-Y-O-M-B-O. Close. B-I-Y-O
M-B-O.
B-I-Y-O.
Damn.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
That's one and one.
One and one.
I'm ready.
His last name
is Siakam.
His first name
is Pascal.
Pascal Siakam.
Spell Siakam spell Siakam
wait
that's the one from the Raptors
he used to play with the Raptors he got
traded to the Indiana Pacers now he's currently
on the Pacers he went number 43
am I right yep
S-I-A-K-A-M
Pascal Siakam yeah okay
and I only know that
because I've seen him play
multiple times
and I remember how to spell that last name
hey let's go
yeah
I'm not getting no more wrong
I'm telling you I'm like that
let's go
this guy played tonight he played
for the Pelicans also
he's of Lithuanian descent
Valanchunas oh hell no come on He plays for the Pelicans also. He's of Lithuanian descent.
Valanchunas.
Oh, hell no.
Come on, huh?
You know I don't know how to spell no valentine?
V-A-L-A-N-C-I-U-N-A-S.
Valanchunas.
You cheat.
Ain't no way hell I was going to get that right.
You going to get this one.
You going to get this one. Okay, get this one. You go get this one.
Okay, here we go.
Where we at?
Where we at?
Where we at?
He's of Nigerian descent.
Okay, I'm Nigerian.
I'm a Yahoo boy.
He was raised in Greece, and he's known as the Greek freak.
His name is Yantis Antetokounmpo.
Yantis Antetokounmpo.
What?
Anta.
Anta.
A-N-T-I K
O-U-M-P-U
A-N-T-E-T-O-K-O-U-N-M-P-O
Antetokounmpo. Gian. Antetokounmpo.
Giannis Antetokounmpo.
That's a hard one.
I ain't...
Listen, that's a hard one.
And the bonus is...
McKay Luke.
Who?
McKay Luke.
Wait, use it in a sentence.
Fi.
Huh? Oh, yeah. Fi. sentence. Fee. Huh?
Oh, yeah, fee.
Fee.
McKay Luke.
McKay Luke is an accurate three-point shooter.
McKay Luke.
McKay.
McKay.
For some reason, I think it's MCK.
Okay.
McKay Luke. L-C-K. Okay. McKay Luke.
L-U-K-E.
M-Y-K-H-A-I-L-I-U-K.
C, McKay Luke.
How in the hell was I going to get that?
What the hell?
Damn. So let me guess.
You wanted me to give you Curry, James, and Durant, huh?
Yeah.
You give me these international players with names.
You got two, man.
That was good.
You got two.
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
I got two.
You got two.
I got two.
That was me.
That was me. You got Siakam. I got two. That was me. That was me.
You got Siakam.
I didn't think you'd go get Siakam.
No, because I've seen him play over and over and over.
And the last name, it rung a bell on how to spell.
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Now, it's time for your revenge.
Oh, yeah.
Last segment of the night.
And it's time to dunk on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I got to get to it.
I got to get to it.
All right, here we go.
Let me open these up a little bit.
Hey.
I ain't going to get none of them tonight, don't you?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
You ain't getting these.
Trust me.
Hey, it's cold as hell here.
Hold on.
Shit.
Hey, trust and believe you're not getting these.
You might have a great football knowledge.
Great football knowledge.
But tonight, Dunk on Unk is about basketball.
It's about basketball.
We're in the playoffs.
We're in the playoffs.
So, let me put my hoodie back on.
Look at my gun.
Them 30-inch pythons.
Yeah, I see them.
I see them.
Oh, yeah.
It's on.
It's on, chat.
Chat, we got him on the ropes for the first question, chat.
We got him on the ropes.
Okay, first question.
You ready?
Yep.
Michael Jordan has the highest playoff point per game average in NBA history at 33.4 per game.
Which active player is second all time?
With the most active point per game average right now.
Second all time.
If I'm not mistaken, I think he's from Slovenia.
I'm going to say Luka Doncic.
You know what?
You know what I'm going to do?
That was just a warm-up question.
That's all.
Hello.
Is it right?
I think you're telling me. You got it right.
You got it right.
You got it right.
But listen, it was just a warm-up question.
I like Steve Barham on the sideline with the Clippers do so good.
Yeah.
Listen, that was a lead-up question.
Okay.
So I can humble you on the second question.
Obviously, you know Luka averages 32 a game.
Yeah.
That was really easy.
That's why I gave you that.
I gave you that one on purpose.
I appreciate that.
But you ain't going to get this one, though.
Okay.
I'm going to show you. This is how you humble them on purpose. I appreciate that. But you ain't going to get this one, though. Okay. I'm going to show you.
This is how you humble them, Chad.
Watch this.
Which head coach has the most regular season victories without winning an NBA title?
Yeah.
Which head coach has the most regular season victories without winning an NBA title?
Yeah. Yeah.
Uh-huh.
I'm going to go.
It's one or two.
I'm going to say Don Nelson.
Are you sure?
Are you sure you want to say Don Nelson?
I want to say Don Nelson.
Motherfucker.
That voice ain't good.
Boy, I'm telling you.
Oh, Joe, when you give me that,
I'm just going through,
it's going through the computer.
It's rapidly going through the computer.
And then I got to spit it out.
Nah, man.
You cheating over there, man.
Where Ash at, man?
Ash at the club. Tell him don't be
helping you back there, man.
Listen,
Don Nelson was the correct answer. He has
1,335 regular
season wins, most all time
without a championship, followed by
the Jazz coach, Jerry
Sloan. Yeah. Okay. Number three. Number three. Number three. time without a championship followed by the jazz coach jerry sloan yeah okay number three number
three number three here we go chat we got him on this one chat there is only one finals mvp winner
that is eligible for the hall of fame that has not been voted in who is that player there is only one
finals mvp winner that is eligible for the Hall of Fame that has not been voted in.
Who is that player?
Wow.
He's eligible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where that database at?
Hold on.
Give me a second.
I got to run through this thing right quick.
All right.
All right.
He's currently eligible or he will be eligible. He's currently eligible or he will be eligible he's currently eligible currently eligible 69
oh man yeah i know Oh, man. Yeah, I know.
Cornbread Maxwell.
I don't know.
Who?
Cedric Cornbread Maxwell.
Come on.
Come on, Joe.
Y'all cheating over there, man.
Nah, hell nah, man.
Somebody over there, man.
Hey, you got to hold your hands up, man. You typing on something, man.
You got to hold your hands up.
Hey, chat, ain't no way in hell.
He was the finals MVP in 1981 when the Celtics beat the Rockets.
Larry Bird scored eight points in both games, five and six,
Cedric Cornbread Maxwell.
I think he's out of University of Charlotte.
Hell, no.
Hell, no.
No, I ain't going for that.
Hey, put your hands in the air on this next question, man.
I got to make sure you ain't typing nothing.
You got the first three right, man.
Something ain't right.
LeBron James has played in 282 playoff games,
most in NBA history.
Who was behind him with 259 games played?
Oh, I got this easy right here.
This is easy right here Who this
He was left handed
Played with the Lakers
Played with the Jazz
Played with OKC
Derek Fisher
Fuck man
What that computer on you
I'm telling you.
Chat, he cheating.
Chat, chat, y'all got to do something, man. Something ain't right, man.
I put that on my credit.
If y'all can see something, look in his glasses.
Just look in his glasses and let me know if you see something.
Question number five.
Michael Jordan
Only faced one player
That outscored him
In a playoff series
Oh my god
It was during the 1985 playoffs
Who was that player?
1985
If you get this
I'm walking out
Oh my goodness I'm walking out.
Oh, my goodness.
I'm assuming it was with the Bucs.
The guy had to be with the Bucs because he went out in the playoffs
in the first round,
his first three appearances.
Who's with the Bucs?
Who was good on the Bucs back then?
Jason Terry.
Oh, my goodness.
Giannis.
Terry Cummings.
Don't do me.
Hey, chat. Come on, man. Hey, chat. Hey chat
Come on man
Hey chat
Something ain't right man
Hey chat
Nah
You cheating man
Nah you the hell
Nah
Nah you cheating
That ain't no computer
That's AI
That ain't no computer
That's AI
Nah man Y'all better stop playing with me I told y'all man That ain't no computer. That's AI. That ain't no computer. That's AI.
Y'all better stop playing with me.
I told y'all, man.
Let me look at the chat, man.
The chat got to see something.
Ain't nothing to see.
Ain't nothing to see.
He went to DePaul University.
Nah, Uncle, you're cheating, man.
Oh, how am I going to cheat?
I'm saying the answers.
They don't know the answers in the chat.
No, you know what?
You're looking at the chat.
See the chat?
The chat giving you the answer, man. They didn't give me no answer.
Because they listen to the question,
and then they put it in the chat,
and then you read it from the chat.
Yeah, we won't.
You know what?
You know what we got to do?
I put that on my granny.
No, you got to close your eyes.
You got to close your eyes on this last one.
Okay.
You got to close your eyes.
Okay.
Because ain't no way in hell you getting all these, man.
Hell no.
Well, these is hard questions, man,
because I don't even know these.
I know you don't.
I know you don't know them.
I'm a student of the culture.
I study sports. I've a student of the culture. I study sports.
I've been studying sports
since 87.
This was in 85.
Last question. You can close your eye. Don't cheat. Don't even look at the
chat. Who was
the last four-year college
player to go number one overall
in the NBA draft?
Who was the last four-year
college player to go number one in the NBA draft? Kenya was the last four-year college player to go number one
in the NBA draft?
Kenyon Martin in 1999.
Yeah, okay.
That's a good one.
I knew you was going to know that one
because even I knew that one.
Hold on.
And you know why I knew that one?
Where did Kenyon Martin go to college?
University of Cincinnati.
That's why I knew that one.
Okay, okay.
All right, you know, you did, Hey, listen. You did your big one
tonight, but I think the first four, the chat
helped you. The chat helped
you. Because you got the chat right in front of you.
I went five for five the last two nights,
Ocho. Because the chat is...
I just caught on.
When I asked the question, the chat
be putting the answers in there. The chat
didn't know, chat, that y'all
know y'all ain't happy with WB. Nah, nah, nah,
nah, nah. It just dawned on me.
It just dawned on me. So as
I asked the question, the chat started
putting the answers. The chat didn't
know. Hold on, let me
finish. Let me finish. You'll wait, you'll relax,
you'll ponder for a minute
and you'll process it because you already see it
in the chat, but you'll wait a little bit
and then you'll say the answer.
The chat didn't know
Cornbread Maxwell.
They didn't know Cornbread.
I knew Cornbread.
Because they...
I didn't give you his first name.
I gave you his nickname
what they called him.
Yeah, because somebody
in the chat said
the nickname too.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe.
The boy good.
Yeah, you cheated.
The boy good.
Nah, man.
You cheated.
Oh, Joe.
I mean, you almost had me a couple times, though, Joe.
You almost had me a couple times, though, Joe.
Nah, you cheated.
You cheated.
You cheated me.
I mean, like, ooh.
I was like, man.
I mean, like, hold on.
You cheated me.
I'm convinced.
There's no way you're able to process sports like that.
I am, actually.
Different genres.
Genres?
Errors.
Errors.
I mean, like, now I can do it.
I can do it.
But just, no.
Ocho, I'm telling you, Ocho, I'm good with this stuff.
Nah.
Tracking field, basketball, baseball, football, Ocho.
Listen, I can only do that.
I'm just being honest.
I can only do that with soccer, soccer, boxing, and football. Now, you ask me some soccer, I ain't got nothing. Yeah, yeah, I can only do that. I'm just being honest. I can only do that with soccer, soccer, basketball, and football.
No, you ask me some soccer,
I ain't got nothing.
Yeah, I can only do that.
I mean, go back 80s, 70s.
I ain't got that.
Yeah, basketball,
I got to work on that.
I got to work on that.
All right, Ocho.
It's time for our last segment of the day,
and it's called Q&A.
Q&A. Q&A. Q&A.
Stephen Bass 314 said, just got my La Portia Wednesday, and as the cognac drinker, it's well worth the wait.
Can you speak to us for those strong work ethic, but we're not afforded the same opportunity to be successful as other has?
That's really hard
because sometimes you can work and that's that's the frustrating part about about an ocho is that
sometimes you can work so hard and then you look and somebody else is getting ahead of you and you don't think they're
working as hard as you are and that can be very frustrating uh i'm i'm but at the end of the day
i just like well i'm just going to continue to work and if god sees fit for me to move a step up
that's what it is because I can't do anything about that
Ocho because I don't know
that person's situation
what's hard work to me
or not hard work to me
might be extenuating
to them
so it is frustrating
I mean come on
we've all been there hey man I'm doing all this I'm working my tail off and I'm looking over here. This dude come out again. He already got he run a little sorry routes and I'm working my butt off. He got 10 kids. Sometimes you put in all the work and you don't get the results.
Sometimes you put in all the work and you don't get the results you want.
Somebody else maybe cuts a corner, maybe doesn't put in the work that you have.
I mean, it happens.
There's this old saying, this old adage, at times life isn't fair.
It's not.
And it's because of situations like that.
You're doing all the right things,
doing all the things people are saying
you're supposed to do.
If you work hard,
well, the results are supposed to show themselves.
All the time you put in hard work
or you sacrifice,
sometimes the results don't always show up.
But how about this?
What if that aspect is fair? As long as you don't always show up. But how about this? What if that aspect is fair?
As long as you don't measure your success
by what somebody else is doing
that you determine is not working as hard as you.
You see, a lot of times,
what gets us frustrated
is that we're measuring our worth
by their success.
Okay, I like that. You see what i'm saying oh joe so man i'm
doing all this but that was the thing and i started like once i stopped measuring my success
by what others did right life became a lot easier oh jocho it's a lot less stressful
I didn't have the headaches
that I had because I was worried about
like well you know what
maybe life feels fair
maybe this is what your life was meant
to be
you know one thing that will always keep you down
what
comparing your life
to somebody else's comparison comparison is the thief of joy it absolutely every time
every time yep well hell i'm putting in the work how come i ain't got that
well i work this job how come i ain't driving that? Man. Shit, boy.
Ojo, I had a girlfriend.
They taking all these vacations.
They go here.
They go there.
And I know you got more money than them.
Uh-oh.
Get it together, Uncle. What you told him?
Hold on.
Wait, before you say,
before you say what you told him,
let me give him,
let me give him a,
I know you finna give me a good one.
Go ahead, I'm ready now.
I was like, but that's their life.
That's not our life.
Okay.
You're trying to live their life over here.
Ooh.
At the end of the day, Ocho, you can only be who you are.
Right.
I said, I'm not a vacation type of guy.
And I told you that.
And you were okay with that.
Now you want to live like them. Until your friends started saying, well, Shannon got all this money.
He's doing this.
He's doing that.
Why don't y'all go here?
Y'all can stay in a nicer place
than what I stayed in.
So now they're putting pressure on you.
You bring that back
and put pressure on me.
So you allowing them to mess up our home.
Which happens all the time.
Could you...
Happens all the time. Could you... Happens all the time.
Robert Paul Jr. said,
Hey, Uncle Nocho,
it's always a great time on the show.
It's my birthday.
Do you think I can get a shout out?
Thanks a million.
If either of you ever want to create a children's book,
look me up.
I'm an illustrator.
Stay blessed.
Robert Paul,
thank you, bro.
Appreciate all the support
that you've given Nightcap,
Uncle Nocho. Thank you for the support. Thank you given Nightcap Unc and Ocho thank you for the
support thank you for tuning in catching
us and you know what
I might take you up on that offer Robert might take you
up on that offer
happy birthday
Raheem Cunningham said hey Unc my older
brother Ricky about to get married to his
fiance Stacy in two weeks in Jamaica
could you give them a special shout out
Ocho if you don't mind,
you can come to Jamaica,
crash the wedding.
We love nightcap.
Oh, yeah.
Ricky, congratulations
to you and your beautiful bride.
Destination wedding.
Oh, man, that's incredible.
Congrats, congrats.
Man.
Guys, I hope you have
a long, long, happy, healthy marriage.
Oh, yeah.
Go ahead, what do you want to add? If you need somebody to perform, let me know.
Perform what?
At the wedding.
What you going to perform?
What instrument you play?
No, I'm going to sing Two Occasions.
You only think of them a day or night?
You only think of you?
Oh, Lord have mercy.
On two occasions.
Lord have mercy. Kemper Norwood you. Oh, Lord have mercy. On two occasions. Lord have mercy.
Kemper Norwood Jr. said,
Uncle Nocho, do y'all like lemon cake
or strawberry cake better?
Neither one.
Yellow cake, chocolate icing.
Yellow cake, chocolate icing.
Betty Crocker, they sell it at Publix.
Yellow cake, chocolate icing.
Talk to me.
I like the lemon cake
that Ash occasionally brings me from Starbucks,
but probably strawberry.
Ugh, come on, man.
Strawberry?
Yeah.
Now, I like red velvet,
but only from the lady that's in Glenville.
She only makes it,
that's the only red velvet cake I like. velvet, but only from the lady that's in Glenville. She only makes it. She's the only.
That's the only red velvet cake I like.
It's got to be that.
I ain't never had no red velvet cake ever.
Yeah.
All I eat, all I've eaten is my Betty Crocker yellow cake chocolate icing.
And I eat cupcakes from Publix.
And birthday cakes from Publix.
Because I don't know what kind of cake they be using at Publix, but golly.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, out of all things you guys own, collect, which has the most meaning?
My kids.
You didn't collect them.
And you don't own them.
I did collect them. you don't own them. I did collect them.
I collect kids like Pokemons.
Let me think.
What you got?
What you got?
Because I don't really collect anything.
Oh, I don't collect.
I don't collect.
I used to collect paper money.
So I had, yeah. Paper money, currency. Oh, I don't collect money. I used to collect paper money. So I had, yeah.
Paper money, currency.
Oh, currency.
Okay, okay.
Oh, from different places.
No.
U.S.
So I have every denomination from a dollar bill all the way to $10,000.
Okay.
So I have a $1,000, $2,000, $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $100,000, $500,000, $5,000, $10,000.
They made, I think they made $7,000, $100,000, but I think000, $20,000, $500,000, $5,000, $10,000. They made, I think they made $7,000, $100,000,
but I think they're either private collectors
or they're all in the Smithsonian now.
Right.
I have...
I gave my grandmother for like $30 worth of silver dollars.
I gave her $2,000 because I just wanted
them because I knew she had them for a long time.
So that, proud of those
silver dollars.
Proud of those.
I had a watch.
My brother got me a watch for graduation, but
I don't know what happened to it.
I don't know. Damn to it. I don't know.
Damn,
I ain't got shit.
I'm for real.
You ain't got no soccer jersey?
What's your most prized soccer jersey? You collect
them? Oh, man, I got every
I got so many.
My most
prized one?
You know what?
I'm going to have to go with that George Campos,
that George Campos jersey
that he just signed for me, man.
You remember when the
old throwback football and basketball jersey
was out?
Nah. Oh, the baggy ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I wish they'd come back in so I could
start wearing them again.
Lady Ray says,
shout out to Ocho, what are two things you're looking
forward to this summer? And at least one
thing has to be non-work related.
This summer?
I don't do nothing in the summer.
I mean, I do the same thing in the summer.
I do in the spring, fall, and winter.
Yeah.
Smoke cigars, play video games.
We got...
That's it.
We got...
Oh!
I'm taking the kids to Dubai, man.
I'm tripping.
Where?
In the summer
I forgot about that
so when everybody
you know we already do our annual trip
at the beginning of the summer
when all the kids are home
I'm taking all the kids to Dubai
I forgot about that
yeah
we got some big stuff planned
I can't tell them about it yet
just yet
oh yeah yeah yeah
I'm ready let me know
let me know
I cut my trip short yeah I can't tell them about it yet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready. Let me know. Let me know.
I cut my trip short.
Yeah.
I just hope it doesn't overlap.
Well, we got a schedule.
Yeah, I'll make sure it won't.
I'll make sure it won't.
We only stand for a week.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got some plans coming up.
I'm going to let y'all in on the plans.
Lanny Ray, hold on to that.
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Thunder beat the Pelicans 94-92.
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