Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Geno Smith Traded to Las Vegas, Davante Adams to Rams

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best NFL moments of the week including the start to NFL Free Agency seeing Geno Smith being traded to the Las Vegas Raiders, Davante Adams signing with the Los Angeles Rams, and more!04:20 - Geno Smith to the Raiders11:52 - Davante Adams to the Rams14:35 - Warren Sapp has words about coach that talked about Shedeur Sanders29:23 - Osa Odighizuwa joins the show44:40 - Joey Bosa released from Chargers50:45 - DK Metcalf requests a trade52:40 - Texans plan to let Stefon Diggs test free agency(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Vegas Raiders, Las Vegas gave up a 20-25 third round pick, 92 overall for Smith. The deal ends his six-year stand in Seattle, where he revived his career and became a two-time Pro Bowl selection. Smith has one year left on his contract at $31 million. The Raiders are taking on all

$31 million of that. It's surprising that the Seahawks are blowing this thing all up, Ocho, considering they were 10-7 last year. Geno, gone. DK, gone. Tyler Lockett, gone. What's going on, Ocho?

Listen, boy, if I knew the answer, I'd tell you. I don't understand what they're doing, especially based off what they did last year. They went 10-7, but I'm assuming front office, GM, ownership, they have a feeling that they can find better production elsewhere. But I don't understand how. You have to have a veteran presence for one.

You got to have a superstar. I know, obviously, it's a team game. It's not like basketball where you have a Luka and, you know, you have a LeBron James. But why do you need a quarterback? You're not getting nothing done without that. So the only person left right now in Jackson Smith, J.S. I'm going to just say J.S. Jackson Smith and Jigba.

Yeah, yeah. I stay butchering young bull name. And so you got J.S. And I know he's sitting there like that Fresh Friends meme where Will Smith just sitting in the middle of the house and the house is empty. Yeah. That's it. Who's going to throw me the ball? Man, listen, and that's the most important part, especially if you're serious about winning.

If you're serious about winning, especially coming off a 10-7 season. So listen, hands might roll. Well, this was a methodical process. This happened in 2013. Mm-hmm. Wait, to who? When Seattle didn't give that ball to Beast Mode. Oh.

That ended Seattle. Because they started dismantling Ocho piece by piece. Cam leaves. Abel leaves. Bennett leaves. Eric Peace, Sherm leaves. Earl leaves. Earl leaves, yeah.

Boom. There's no more Legion of Boom. Now those receivers, they start to, what was the one that, what, 89, what's his name? Doug Baldwin. Doug Baldwin. Oh, yes. He starts to leak. La, boom, boom.

And you see Ocho systematically, beast mold, gone. Russ, gone. Piece by piece. Here we are. It's the nature of the business. It's a slow leak. And you never notice it until all the water's gone. And that's exactly what they hit now.

All the water is gone. And you got one dude standing out. Well, this is what y'all left. Oh, and remember, they ended up letting B-Wags go. Malcolm Smith gone. Yeah, they did let Bobby go down to the commanders, yeah.

Mm-hmm. That's crazy. So let Bobby go down to the commanders. That's crazy. That was the beginning of the end. I used to have a podcast called Mouth and All. And I'll never forget it, Ocho. I said it. That was the Sunday I went on. I said, they'll never be the same.

I said, it's over. Never going to be the same. You were right. They're not going to believe. They same. You were right. They're not going to believe. They're not going to believe. They're not going to believe. They're not going to trust Pete anymore. And Pete and them had a tendency. They threw the ball down there

100% of the time. And that situation where three receivers on the field, they didn't break tendency. They had to break tendency. Yeah. sometimes you have to scout yourself i mean we would always after every so often we take time to scout ourself ocho in this formation we're 80 of this we've got to break tendencies in this formation we're 90 of this in this formation we throw the ball 100 of the time we've got to run it, some guys.

You've got to, sometimes, you have to scout yourself, and you don't want to have to do it after something catastrophic has happened. Probably they go back and look at it. Man, that three receiver said, man, we throw the ball, and you run that.

The moment, the moment that slot receiver is pressed, you got an audible. Yeah. I mean, listen. Because he's not going to be able to push up field to make the corner, the outside guy bubble. He has to make him bubble. If he don't make him bubble, Ocho, he has a straight line. And he's going to beat your guy to the ball.

Every time. Once you saw, because normally, you see, because when you get a formation like that, one guy needs to be off and one guy needs to be pressed to make sure you don't get picked. Right. That's why if you notice, a lot of times they're like, hey, one of us got to press. One of us play off so we don't get picked right that's why if you notice a lot of times they're like hey one of us got to press one of us play off so we don't get picked well if you go back and look butler was off brandon browner was in the slot he pressed yeah i would have came up off of that so fast and understanding what was brandon around the strength being right up there being right up there

he gonna hold yeah he gonna do oh Joe first of all you already in a tight alignment where are you gonna go running to the tackle

he knows that you gotta push up yep cause how many times you think he saw that when he was in Seattle ah come on man

so now Slott has press he doesn't get off Butler right there doesn't have to bubble everything went well

because Ocho more times than not he don't the guys ain't catching that ball Ocho that's point blank. Think about it. Think about how close that was. Because they're on the one. So let's

just say, and Russell take a three-step drop. So that's only six yards. And Russell is firing the ball. He's coming this way. And the ball's coming that way. And he catches it. He catches it. Yeah.

That's crazy. It is. But Seattle, I hope y'all guys know what y'all doing, because that division, I don't think, I think it's all going to be contingent on what happens with Aperte. I'm sure they're going to try to get him done. The Rams look good. They got Devontae now.

They got Puka. They got Kyron Williams. Stafford is back. They got a defense. Defense is really, really good. You know how difficult it is to go from, well, Cooper Cuff, Cooper Cuff hasn't been released and hasn't been traded yet. What happens if they keep Cup, but they can't with that cap number, right?

With that number, huh? You know how hard it is to go from one route runner to another that just is good, if not better, and bringing Devontae Adams in, in the right type of system. Man, it's going to be beautiful over there. Devontae Adams is headed to Southern California, inking a two-year deal worth $46 million. $23 million. He got $26 million guaranteed. Adams arrives in L.A. as the Rams prepare to part ways

from former Triple Crown winner Cooper Cupp. Ocho, you like this move? Absolutely. The funny thing, I talked about it earlier in the show. You lose to Cooper Cup, one of the best route runners of all time. A Triple Crown, not too far removed from that Triple Crown, I might add. Then you get Poonakua comes out of nowhere. They put him in the positions in which they used to put Cooper Cup in.

And he's just that good. He's good. You can play good he's good you can play on the outside you can play on the outside big fast I mean he's not blazing fast but he's fast enough and then okay now you're losing Cup and you're able to go get Devontae Adams have we seen Devontae Adams before I'm not not the one from New York Jets not that one not the one with Las Vegas Raiders where they didn't use him the right way but still get it done because I saw flashes of brilliance in what we're used to seeing from Devontae Adams when he was at Green Bay. Man, he might have a little resurgence. That's what I like to call it. You got your money so that there's no reason for them not to use you offensively. Put you in the same position

that they put Cooper Cuff. You can run the same exact routes. You can get open. You don't need help. One of the few receivers in the NFL, I don't need McVay to scheme me open. Tell me what you want me to do, and let me show you. Watch me go do it.

He's surgical with them feet now. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I like this matchup, and he has a guy that can get into football. He can put the football in places that's going to give you a chance to run. Because that's the difference, is that a lot of guys can hit you, but can you hit me with the ability to run? Then I don't have to break my stride pattern.

Yeah. You look at the way Joe throws Chase. Chase catches the ball, he just takes off. He can do so much when he he got the ball in his hands. Yeah. Anybody can throw a receiver a five-yard out, a slant, a hit, and there's a chance that they might go hit the head off the goalpost. Yep.

Man, stop playing. Yeah. Like I said, we've talked about deceivers. You know, you got McDuffie in Kansas City. He coming up in a couple of years, Ocho. Yeah. Got Stingley. They're going to have to see Stingley.

Yeah. So I don't know if Sauce has done anything. I probably have to do something with Sauce here shortly. Yeah. But I like the move. I like Tay going to the move. I like Tate going to the Rams. Yeah, I do. I like it a lot.

Especially for the offense. The offense is not going to miss a beat. Ocho, Warren Sapp, our boy, spoke about the anonymous NFL coaching coach talking about Shadur. Let's take a listen to what Sapp had to say. And then we talk about a quarterback coach who's not a decision maker,

wants to make that call about our quarterback. Dog, I've been working for the last 48 hours to get his name. If I get his name, oh, buddy, we're going to do

a deep dive into his life. He's going to wish he had never did. If you're not a decision maker, shut up. And if he doesn't understand what it is to be the baby of a family like that,

he has all Bucky and Shiloh's strengths and his sister and none of their weaknesses. He's the day walker. I'm working. I'll tell Jesus you can cut it for yourself. You ain't going to find a more loyal guy than Sap. Thank you, baby. I've been knowing Sap for a minute. And anytime he call or ask her to say i ask

the phone the same way what the hell you want sap man i told i told i told such and such that you was gonna say that way i said yeah i'm always gonna say that but he's right i mean look it and it's always happening at some point in time on you there's gonna be somebody i don't like the way he tied his shoes i don't like the way he tied his shoes. I don't like the way he didn't hustle on this plate. That's the whole job of the combine. The combine, stay with me for just a second.

The combine job isn't to build you up. It's to break you down. It's to tell you about all your flaws and why you shouldn't go where you go. You're not fast enough. He's not fast enough. He's not big enough. The point of attack.

He gets lost in, you know, his transition isn't good. He's not good with his eyes. He's not good with his hands. Oh, his arms are too short. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? He don't play with a low center of gravity. They're telling you all the things the guy, tell me what he can do, damn it. Because I got to take somebody out here.

So what can they do? You're telling me everything that he can do. I need something. Tell me what he can do and then we can go from there. Yeah. And listen, the combine is a trip. I know it's about your measurables, your intangibles and all those things. How fast, how far you can

jump, how far you can do all these things. To me, the combine really doesn't matter. I think that's why some people choose not to do it and they wait till they do their pro day because what can you do when you turn on the film? That's what I want to see. If I was a scout, if I was a GM, if I was an owner, let me see your film.

I don't care what you can do in shorts because the game of football at the highest level isn't played in shorts and a T-shirt. It's just not. It's just not. Now, you know, watching you run and do drills, that's all cute. That's cool. But in a structured environment, coming to playing and being productive. You ain't running them drills like that.

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell us it now. Tell us it now, because daddy's working okay and if they say well that's the thing though but but but that's the thing i mean um i promise you chad i know y'all don't want to believe this but the greater the athlete the more arrogant and the more confident that that individual is. He believes if Ish don't stay.

He believes he can walk on water. He believes he can park the Red Sea. He believes he can heal the sick. That's the mentality that you have to have. Do you understand? They don't. So you think a lot of, when it comes down to players, to individuals,

the talent is not that much different. It's the mindset in which they display that talent. Yeah, it is. I don't think people understand that. Now, I think this is where people get confused, too. When you think about players that are elite, the first thing they'll say, well, Tom Brady wasn't cocky.

Tom Brady wasn't arrogant. That's why on the outside looking at it, I wish people actually knew them. Not the mags that they put on when it's time to talk in front of the camera.

It's about knew them. You feel me? Man, there's a reason why they're so great. There's a reason. Believe. When people talk about Michael Jordan, what they say, that Jordan competed in everything. He don't like to lose.

The great players. Bobby Bristol beat John Elway on his pool table. John sold the pool table. John sold the pool table. That's what graves do, man. I'm telling y'all, Joe. Hey, John sold the pool table, huh? Yep. Yeah, that's enough. I mean, that's what Tom said. Hey, y'all remember when, what was it, the Flaygate,

and they had some messages, and they leaked Tom messages. What did he say? I played the best football of my life. Hey, Peyton on his last legs. He about to be done. That's it. What you think Kobe thought? You thought Kobe thought he was like the rest of the guys in the NBA?

You think LeBron James actually think he's like the rest of the guys? You think Jordan, Magic Bird? Do you think the entrepreneurs, the actors, so you think Denzel think he's just like any other actor? Is that what you think Viola Davis think Meryl Streep they just like anybody else stop it stop it

you think Dr. Neil Eltrash you think James Andrews Anderson you think they just think they're just like any other orthopedic really is that what y'all think y'all don't think that y'all don't think that.

Y'all don't think that. It's a mindset. And you got to have it to be successful. Yes. Got to have it. And that's what I, when people, people,

what's the, I don't know. I don't know what they, I, I, I just know them, how they treat me. And most time, athletes treat other athletes well. I mean, hey, such and such man, my mom is here. Can you meet my mom?

Can you meet my dad? Can you meet my... Okay, sure. But you got to have that. You got to have a belief that I'm a bad mofo. Got to. I believe I'm the baddest. That's the mindset you have to have to be great.

The greater you are, the bigger your ego. The greater you are, regardless of what you do, let it be sports. Let it be entertainment. The greater you are, the bigger the ego. Every time. So with that being said, and look, what do you want the man to say? He don't believe he's good? He don't believe he can turn a franchise around?

I mean, I'm trying, help me understand, what is he supposed to say? That I don't believe? Yes, I went to the HBCU, turned that program around. Look at it, we're ADSB, we're the only ESPN.

If I'm not mistaken, I think they might have had college game day down there one day. Okay. I go to Colorado. Remember what Colorado was before we got there? Turn them around. Turn that around. So why shouldn't I believe I can't have that same level of impact or influence on an NFL team? You got to have that kind of confidence.

You got to. Who goes of confidence. You got to. Who goes into something thinking, man, I might fail? Well, that's what's going to happen. You already done put that bull job in your ear.

Well, most of the time, you know, a lot of people want you to be humble that it makes them uncomfortable. No. Because you have fear. That don't mean

that I fear what you fear. Just because you're fear that don't mean that I fear what you fear just because you afraid to be successful you afraid to follow your dreams you try to poopoo on mine you try to oh oh you think you better no you was good but you didn't think you were good enough

I think I'm good enough I don't need to be better I just need to be good enough now what now you mad at me I think I'm good enough. I don't need to be better. I just need to be good enough. Now what? Now you mad at me. Because I'm living out my dream. I followed my passion.

You didn't follow yours. You let somebody talk you, trick you out of your spot. Man, you can't do that. You can't go there. You can't be this. And you believed them. I listened to the one when people told me, Shannon, I couldn't go there. You can't be this. And you believe them. Happens all the time. I listen to the one. When people told me, Shannon, I couldn't go to college.

And if you go to college, you can't go to the NFL. If you NFL, you're just going to be a guy. I listen to the one person that when everybody's told me what I couldn't do, I listen to the one person that told me what I could do. Me. Because at the end of the day, what you telling telling me so what impact are you going to have are you going to catch passes are you going to block

are you going to run these routes are you going to get in front of this camera five times a week for night camp first take and come up are you going to be able

to do all this no you're not so why would I why the F am I listening to you man please as a matter of fact, now that I think about it, you're watching me. Why the F would I listen to you? You're watching. Those that can do.

Those that can't. Talk about those that can't. I like that one. I like that one. I like that one. I ain't tell you nothing I couldn't do. Did it. But I'm not going to let you tell me just because you didn't do, just because you didn't follow your dreams.

You didn't follow what you wanted to do. And somebody talked you out of that. Why would I ever listen to you? Do you understand where I came from? Even if I don't accomplish anything else in my life, I am a huge success by any stretch of the imagination. That's if I don't accomplish anything else. If something unforeseen, God said, well, Shannon, my faithful servant, come on home. Can't nobody tell Shannon Sharp he wasn't a success.

Can't nobody tell my family. Can't nobody tell my kids, my loved ones, anybody. Can't nobody tell Shannon Sharp wasn't a success. Because they saw where Shannon came from from and they saw where he ended up see a lot of times people measure success by what you did you measure success by overcoming what you thought you couldn't do

so every time, hey, it got hard, it was cold, that's all right. My girl used to always tell no matter what happened and it got bad at times. My grandma said, boy, it take all that to make a man. Marty and Mary Porter said we raise men. Don't make no excuses. I don't make no excuse

I get it done get the job done or I'm going to do the best I'm going to give you everything if I couldn't if I didn't get it done you know Shannon put everything he could into it he just didn't get it done

but I agree with Sap I don't know why but I told Ty this. I said, Ty, it's about you. See, they couldn't find flaws with you, so they take it out on your son. You know what I'm saying, don't you?

Guys that were older than me, they couldn't bully my brother, so they try to bully me. I ain't no easy win. You ain't trying to get no rep off me. My brother, hey, you couldn't bully him that you're going to try to bully his brother that's three years younger. I'll pick up something and bust hell out you.

Hey, it is what it is. Man, you don't fight fair. What? It's a fight, dum-dum. A fight is not, I don't know last time I, have you ever seen a street fight that was sanctioned? If they got a

governing body for street fights? No. A brick, a chair? Anything. Whatever. And the funny thing about it, Prime got Shador already ready for this. Yes! He's been dealing with it his whole life.

He's been dealing with it his whole life. He's been dealing with it his whole life because of who his father is. So I'm sure he's right. I know it doesn't bother him. He's going to be all right, though. He's going to be all right. And I hope he does exactly what he said

he was going to do and stands on business by the comments that he made. Oh, now joining us, fresh off a big, big contract. I'm going to need to let me hold something. Let me hold something.

Let me borrow something that I can't pay back. And what? Odigizua. Did I pronounce that right? Osa. Osa. Yes. Odigizua.

Yo, it's good to be here. Thank you guys for having me. No, thank you for that. Congratulations on the deal. You seemingly really came into your own this year. Doing a great job of attacking the run, put collapse in the pocket, getting to the deal. You seemingly really came into your own this year, doing a great job of attacking the run, put collapse in the pocket, getting to the quarterback. What was different this year than in years past?

I think just more experience. You know what I mean? Just getting more reps and then more opportunity. The most that I've ever played, the most that I've ever gotten a rosterusted pass there So I feel I just have in More looks at it more chances at it It's just always gonna allow me to be better you feel me because it's Copycat league you're getting the same blocks over and over so the game

Slow down a little bit I can like start to play the game within the game a little bit more. Well, considering that you went up against, for the last three years, you went up against one of the greatest guards in NFL history, Zach Martin. So I can imagine what those 101s and that 907 and that team setting was like because it kind of prepared you, and you had to feel, man, if I can get off a block against Zach Martin, none of you other guys got a chance if I can beat him on a one on one pass rush you guys don't have a chance is that what you were thinking bro literally

I mean like you know on Sunday I know that the best guys that I went against all week he's just right there to my left yeah the way so I don't really have to worry about anybody else like I know that and people ask me like who's the best guy that you've ever gone against i'm like that's a i go against

him every day so zach is a legend so yeah i got so much respect for him he definitely definitely helped me sharpen all of my tools since i've been in the league. Listen, what factors influence your decision to commit to the Cowboys long-term? You know, I definitely love my team. Okay, yeah. You feel me? The routine and being in Dallas and everything that I have set up out here is conducive to what

I got going on. Right. That's part of the reason why I'm in this position to be able to get more money anyways. So the show, so I think that's just as valuable as more money, uh, you know, and I feel like with that being the case or, and trying to like chase more for the sake of more, like, you know what I mean? Cause it's like, you can always just try and get a little bit more,

just like trying and, and get like every dollar that you possibly can. Like, you know what I mean? I just, it was a very good deal, bro. Like,

and, and I was happy with it. Like it was life changing money. Like, well, very good deal, bro. Like, and I was happy with it. Like, it was a life changing money. Like. Well, definitely. Well, definitely. I got to, like, mom's good forever. And you're in Texas, no state taxes.

So the money that you might've gotten, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got an extra $10 million over the life of the contract somewhere else. You're going to save that in state taxes by not having state taxes there so for me i'm looking at your uh uh osa is that what can i what can i do with 80 million that i need to be able to do with 90 million that's what i'm saying that like yeah it doesn't open or close any doors bro like once you're already in the realm of life changing generational wealth like right it like you know what i mean it doesn't really move the needle for how for how i'm gonna be living my life or what i can't do so i know i'm smart enough i got good people around me that are gonna be able to help me make more money on on that off the field just um you feel me we're

set yeah hey listen when you when you get it when you get a contract of this magnitude right you already had personal goals before you got it you have team goals as a whole now that you've gotten the contract have your personal goals changed not are they still the same i mean still chasing greatness, brother. Still think. Like, I haven't reached the level that I feel like I'm capable of. Right. In terms of my play, in terms of being at the very top of the league and reaching that pinnacle. And Super Bowl, obviously, team-wise, we haven't touched any of those.

So that's still all out there to play for. Now that the money is out of the way, it's just all the things that you love about football and the competitive aspect of it and just trying to be great now. What happened? Oh. I was going to ask, what happened this year?

A lot. Bro, like, I mean mean between injuries like having having uh new decoordinated those growing pains at the beginning just just a lot of things happened bro throughout the course of the season a lot of things that nobody could really control i feel like the things that we could control as far as like attitude and approach and just and just still competing to the very end. I feel like we did what we needed to do there, and that's promising just the mentality of the team. So I feel like that's something that we could build off of for sure.

But you guys seem to struggle against the run. The last three to four years, Osa, you guys have struggled against the run. Why is it so difficult? And I understand you guys want to play an attacking-style defense. When you had DQ, he wants to attack, get to the quarterback. You play that attacking style, that 43, get to the quarterback. Same thing with Zim. Why do you think it's been so difficult for you guys to stop the run?

That's a tough one. There's a lot that goes into it you know what I mean like I feel like just being able to do just as good at the run later in the game as like as we are in the beginning of the game because I feel like we don't start out just you know what I mean like but against the run I feel like obviously we've had games where we started slow but i feel like for the most part like we do a very good job at the beginning of the game stopping the run it's just those later runs like they break them eventually so i feel like just getting those down and and just locking in even more just to be able to to to do a better job of stopping the run a little bit later in the game. Hey, when you think about it, listen, as a football enthusiast like myself,

I like the Cowboys. I like the players on the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys fans. Now, I don't like the way things are running, Dallas. I'm not going to say anything bad about your own or anything, but I would like to ask you, Jerry Jones last year said he was going to be all in. Is there anything that you would like to see ownership do to improve the team, to give you guys a better chance at not only competing in NFC,

but competing for Lombardi trophy, any additions you'd like? Um, I know, I knowlineman for sure. Okay. We just lost Zach Martin, so definitely going to need to pick up an O-lineman too because that's a big part of our team.

I feel like you've got to build from the front back. Right. Obviously, more D-tackles. It is really me and Mozzie as of now. So getting a little bit more depth behind us and adding to the D line room, like I said, building from the front back, that's going to be very important. I feel like that's just, if you're trying to win football games, you've got to focus on that line.

Right. You got your money, and now it's Micah. You see Dak restructured his contract, C.D. Lamb restructured his, gave them nearly $40 million, about $37 million in cap relief, so they got some money to play with. Micah just saw what Max Crosby got, the most money for a non-quarterback in NFL history.

I think, Mike, over there, barbecue chicken, pizza, hamburgers, tenders. And he deserved it, bro. I didn't say that first because I just felt like that was so obvious. It goes without saying, bro. We got to bring

Micah back. You know what i mean nothing's going anywhere but get that deal done so that that's just like a no-brainer bros goes without saying we gotta get we gotta get 11 right yeah and we can't we can't wait until the end of training camp before week one starts to get it done either. Nah. I think that's just, that's probably priority number one, to be honest. Yeah. Can I ask you a question, Olsen? When Jerry is constantly in the headlines,

he's saying things like, do you like, come on, Jerry. Come on, Jerry. Stall us out, man. Let us just play with all the distractions that you're creating. Now, Unky can't answer that. I don't view it as a distraction, bro. Okay.

You know what I mean? Like, what he says doesn't affect what we do out there on the field. Like, I'm the one out there on the field, bro. Like, why? That's not even something that I really think about or let it distract me bro because i know i'm in the driver's seat when i'm on the field so are the other 10 guys out there

with me so are the 11 guys on offense right in control of the situation but you do how to you do realize now when he says this team is as talented as those 90 Super Bowls team. And you guys go out there and stank it up. Now, either he's misguided or you guys are not nearly as talented as he thinks. Now, it's only one of two choices, OC. You're talking right now. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

But I wouldn't even say it's an issue with talent. I'm just like, sometimes the execution is just, obviously in the games that we didn't win, execution just wasn't where it needed to be. I don't think it's a question of talent at all. No. I don't think so. So what is, you mentioned team success

obviously you want to get to an NFC championship game you want to get to the Super Bowl potentially win that but individual Pro Bowl All Pro what's next what would you like to have when it's all said and done when we come back we have a conversation and we sit down with you let's just

say for the sake of argument 10 years from now and you're hanging your cleats up what do you want to be on your resume? That's exactly what you just said, bro. Pro, ball, all pro. These are the things that I look at, and that's exactly what I mean when I say there's still a lot out there for me

to play for and a lot of things that I haven't accomplished yet. Oh, Joe? You've gotten paid. I'm thinking about the time Of my goals that I set Once I'd gotten paid right All pro Obviously at some point

I would love to reach the Super Bowl I wasn't able to do that You did go to the Super Bowl. No, I'm talking about when I was in Cincinnati. Oh, that ain't happening. Come on. Don't be disrespectful. Don't talk about my bangles. Don't talk about my bangles.

From a team standpoint, obviously speaking defensively, what do you think you guys need to do better to start the season off right to get that identity back for you guys to get back into, and I don't want to say contention is not the right word, back into the good graces of just being a good defense in general? Being that it's been bad, I mean no disrespect.

Being that it hasn't been up to par, I'll say it like that. What do you guys need to do? We got to shut people down, bro. Right. Just the run. Just the run. That's it. If we force people to throw the ball, you know what I mean?

We can pass rush with the best of them, bro. So, definitely getting that run stop is and and forcing them into those throwing situations which they don't want to be in which has always been something that was obvious since i've been a rookie is like that's the last thing that teams want to do when they're coming to play the cowboys this right don't want to throw the ball so we got to force them to throw the ball and play our game, you know? Cowboys defensive lineman, Osa Adigizua,

recently signed big lucrative contract. He has his money now. Now he really gets to focus and become the player that he dreamed he could become. Oh, yeah. Pro bowler, an all-pro, and hopefully get the team to the Super Bowl. Also, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on the contract. Stay healthy.

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Releasing Bosa, save save the charges, $25.36 million against their cap. Do you think you'd pick him up? Bengals. If Joey Bosa is gone, then this would be the perfect opportunity. Now, you can't command that much money, right? He just got released. Trey Henderson is due a

huge deal. I'm not sure if the Bengals are going to be able to pay him. What about Joey Bosa coming to Cincinnati? What do you think, huh? Yeah. But he's still going to want big money. Wait a minute now. Listen, you can't be commanding that kind of money when you

haven't been performing the way you should. They just released you for a reason. Stay with me. I mean, he's been nicked a lot. He's been nicked. He's been injured. So you can't come in and talk about, oh, I want the bag. I'm talking about the bag bag. He's already gotten the bag bag.

No, he's not going to command Max Crosby money. No. But he's going to want big money. He's going to want big money, Ocho. He's going to want more than $20 million. Listen, we're going to give him a little something. We ain't going to do him dirty. We're going to give him a little something. We need to upgrade our defense.

This is the perfect time to do so. Now, Trey Hendrickson is going to be able to command much more than what Joey Bosa would get. So I understand that. You agree? Huh? He's going to want that Max Crosby money.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I said I'm not sure if we will be able to retain Brother Henderson, you know, allow him to be blessed elsewhere,

you know, bring Max Crosby in. I mean, bring Max Crosby in. Bring Joey Bosa in and see what we can do. What do you think? No? Uh... bring Joey Bosa in and see what we can do. What do you think? No? Uh.

Hold on. Look, the Chargers are trying to kill their cap space. The thing is, this is $25 million for a guy that's over the last several years, Ochoa has been nicked. He's been more times off the field than on the field. Yes, sir. That's a lot of money.

If Joey Bosa was playing, you know, 15, 16 games a season, would still give you that production when they gave him that big money? Right. I mean, $25 million cap here for a guy that's giving you 12, 13 sacks is gravy. Yes, sir.

But it's because of the injuries. And, you know, I'm looking at him. I mean, they're going to probably, they're probably going to

go out and try to, uh, Khalil Mack is interested in what they're going to do with Mack. Yeah. Cause he's going to probably want to get extended.

Yeah, they can't get rid of everybody now. You probably... Huh? They can't get rid of everybody now. No, no, no, no, no. You got two premier in. You got two premier in. Now you let one go.

Now you can't let the other one go. Well, you got Derwin James that's making a lot of money on the back end. Yeah. You got Khalil that's making good money, but he's going to probably want to get extended. Again? No. I mean, you got to realize, Ocho, that contract,

he got, what, one year left on his contract? Ash, what's the Khalil Mack situation? I think he has like one year, Ocho. Okay. Okay. Damn. But you know, Ocho, coaches, players, nobody wants to go into that last year deal. Yeah. That's a lame duck.

Yeah, yeah. Because, bro, what? Do you believe me or you don't? It's really there. I mean, especially because I've been in this league. I've been defensive player of the year. Y'all know what I'm. Do you believe in me? Right. Or you don't. Especially because I've been in this league. I've been defensive player of the year. Do you believe in me? Right.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Matt went to the Pro Bowl last year. He's like, clearly the coaches and the players and the fans think I'm still playing at an elite level. Yeah. He's a free agent. Oh, he's free?

Yeah. Listen, he's a free agent yeah oh he's free yeah so they man listen I'm not in my car Mac come on to Cincinnati too oh but hey listen I don't like what's going on man Tyler Lockett you know Tyler Lockett probably Tyler Lockett probably gonna end up

going out there with Pete Carroll. Yeah, they're the good chaps. Yep. They drafted him. Yep. They familiar with each other. They know each other. Pete drafted him.

Yep. Devontae Adams. Now, Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones, I know you're going to see this because somebody's going to send it to you. Now, DK Mccalf has been granted permission to seek a trade. Jerry Jones, if you're really all in,

if you want the fans... He's going north of 30 million. He wants in that 30 million range. You're not going to have two receivers making 30 million and a quarterback making that kind of money. And you got to sign Micah.

Where the money coming from, Ochoa? Can I ask you a question? Yeah. You hear what you just said, right? Yes. You heard what you just said, right? Yes. You hear everything you just said. So I know I have a lot of fans that are from Cincinnati in this chat. And based on what you just said,

why do we still believe we'll be able to keep a $30 million receiver, a $40 million receiver, and a $50 million quarterback? Based off what you just said. And a $30 million defensive end. I don't know. Yeah. It's tough. I wouldn't want to be a GM.

I wouldn't want to be an owner. I wouldn't want to be an owner. Because I'm going to act like the Yankees. I'm spending everything. Whatever penalty, whatever, whatever penalty I get for being over the cap, I'll take it. Because I'm signing everybody. Tyler Lockett was released by the Seahawks today and DK Metcalf requested a trade. The request came today after a series of conversations over the past two weeks. DK prefers a contender.

DK is in the last year of his contract. DK, see where the receiver market is heading. Hey, bro, what y'all got for me? Y'all ain't got nothing for me? Nobody? Yeah. Okay, can I get traded? I told you what they need to do, huh?

I see what y'all did with Tyler Lockett. I told you what they need to do, huh? I see what y'all did with Tyler Lockett. I told you what they need to do. Jerry Jones need to be all in. They got to be able to compete with the rest of the NFC, huh? Devontae Smith, A.J. Brown, Devo Samuels, Terry McLaurin. Terry McLaurin. Naomi Brown. CeeDee Lamb, by yourself.

Zach Gertz. Make a splash. CD Lamb, by yourself. Zach Ertz. Make a splash. Jerry, make a splash. Show the fans of Dallas that you're serious. Devontae Adams is available. If you don't want to pay north of 30 for DK, bring somebody in there. Take some of the pressure off of Dak.

Take some of the pressure off of CD. Show them you're serious. You know what? I'm going to show my team. I'm going to show the players here that I'm serious about winning. And I'm going to do something that's out of character. I'm going to go pay for some upgrades to the offense. If I don't think anything is wrong with my house, why would I upgrade it?

Listen, Devontae Adams is right there. Jerry, Devontae Adams is right there. I do one part about I don't think

anything is wrong with my house, so I don't need to have it furnished. It's something wrong with it because it's been

leaking for 30 years. It's something wrong with it. That's what I for 30 years. There's something wrong with it. That's what I got pots and pans for. I catch the rainwater. I ain't heard nothing. Ocho, the Texans plan on letting Stephon Diggs test free agency. And Devontae Adams was cut by the Jets. Cheetah tweeted about the recent receiver movement around the NFL.

Everyone's trying to get out. Why do you think there's so much movement with receivers currently, Ocho? I mean, you think of the receivers that are moving, most of them are the veterans, those that are up in age a little bit, trying to get out of the back end of those

contracts. Obviously, you know they're not going to allow you to hit the back end of the contracts. Cap hits. Obviously, DK wanting to be paid. They're like, nah, we're not doing that, which is why they allowed him to seek a trade, Devontae Adams. Money. There's no way the Jets were paying the remaining of whatever the next year's salary was. Let me see. Stephon Diggs coming off an injury. He was only on the one year to begin with.

ACL. Yeah, on ACL. So hopefully he gets the opportunity to get back healthy and find somewhere where he can contribute. And those are the reasons. And Brandon Ayuk, the 49ers, is being reported that they're willing to listen to trade for Brandon Ayuk.

So he's another receiver that might be on the move. And you have to understand why they're doing that. Brandon Ayuk actually also coming off what kind of injury, Yonk, if I'm not mistaken? Huh? Okay. What happened, Unc? What kind of injuries are you coming off of? ACL. Yeah, see?

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